Jewish divorce: Why women are chained to their husbands | "Divorce denied" (Documentary, 2020)
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- Опубліковано 13 жов 2021
- Film starts at 0:34
According to the Jewish religion everywhere, which also defines the national law in Israel, only a man has the power to grant a divorce. Women find themselves chained to their husbands against their will, even if the separation is mutual. The film follows several such "chained" women in Israel together with Batya, a religious feminist lawyer, who embarks on a struggle against the rabbinical courts, to set these women free.
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Sarah has been refused a divorce for two years, Noa has been waiting for three, and Oshrat for nine years. The freedom of these women and hundreds more in Israel is in the hands of their husbands and the rabbinic court. Batya Kahana Dror is a religious woman and combative lawyer, daring to rebel against the Orthodox Jewish courts. She believes the laws must be changed according to our time. She fights for the freedom of Sarah, Noa, Oshrat, and many more.
Original title: Divorce denied
Directed by David Ofek & Mia Webb
A Trabelsi Production
© 2020, Licensed by First Hand Films - Розваги
Just seeing how tender the lawyer is, encouraging her clients, giving them hope, consoling their tears, lending them strength-- she is an angel on earth.
Agreed! Well said indeed.
This attorney is absolutely phenomenal.
I feel Guy was an amazing man and really loved his wife. Its like God himself liberated his wife upon his wish.
What an absurd, your husband abandoned you for 9 years but you cant legally divorce him...so disrespectful for women!
The lawyer is an astonishing person.
I wonder if there will be anyone like her in a few generations. Her interpersonal skills are unbelievably sharp and capable. Putting her own uncanny abilities aside, it seems like something we are losing in general.
before you convert you should look into a lot of aspects of that particular religion be cause unfortunately thats how the law in this country operates
I would also say get a halachic prenup when you get married.
It depends on the branches. If someone converts to Reform, Reconstructionist or Renewal Judaism this wouldn’t happen. This would likely not occur in many Conservative branches either. A man refusing a get is regarded by the vast majority, including in Orthodox denominations, as abusive and shameful behaviour, but still this can happen. So yes, I agree, it’s very important to be aware of, especially if joining more stringent branches such as Orthodox.
@Nneoma Amen to that! 💯
@@DM-it1qf so if you are from reform demomination- does the state of Israel has anything to say regarding divorce etc?
If a woman wants nothing just leaving her husband, what is the point for the husband to keep the marriage? This is insane that woman has less say about their marriage. It seems that going against each other is just the human doing. Over and over again, through history.
ЭТО ЧТО КАМЕННЫЙ ВЕК, НЕ ДАЙ БОГ БЫТЬ В ТАКОЙ СИТУАЦИИ, ЛУЧШЕ БЫТЬ ОДНОЙ, И ЖИТЬ ДЛЯ СЕБЯ ЛЮБИМОЙ, БРАК БЕЗ ЛЮБВИ ЭТО ПОГИБЕЛЬ
Money & power
@@Bulhbluhbuy Power, Yes. Control, even more so.
A husband In Judaism has to pay the wife in a divorce, it goes both ways
@@mider9996 not if the divorce is never granted😂 now you see why greedy men deny the get
Hopefully we understand why the separation of church and State is essential. If politics and Religion combine, it is toxic
Amen to that! But here in America we may not have separation from church and state much longer. With the new ruling that the Supreme Court did. We are living in scary times in America right now. 💯
True!
Even in the US you need a religious divorce. I only got mine because my ex knocked up his secretary, so he wanted it so his kid wouldn't be a bastard. I was still shamed for his adultery.
OMG! SMDH! Glad I did not get married in Israel. I’ve been divorced according to civil law. I just can’t remarry according to Jewish rites/ceremony. I’m ok with that. My ex remarried and had to have a justice of the peace officiate the nuptials.
Hypocrisy is off the charts.
I had no idea about this appalling Jewish law. It’s abusive, cruel and misogynistic.
Amen! Yes it is!! 💯
How do you feel about the American system?
@@sprtwlf9314
What specific aspect of the American system are you referring to?
The poor mother. Her pregnant daughter snapped at her after she tried hugging her. If it weren't for her mom she wouldn't have been so lucky to get annulled. Of course the lawyer really sealed the deal but the mom she really did her homework.
Yes I felt bad for the Mom. She deserved a hug as much as the lawyer did.
Totally agree. The mom deserved a big hug but instead she was completely disrespected.
No she was too emotional, if her mom would've hugged her she would have collapsed. Mom understood. They love each other :)
@@Shasha-jo5iv Her tone of voice towards her mom was disrespectful. Bratty kid.
@@petrasworld913 no, it wasn't. Just watch this moment once more time and you will notice that this woman is trying to control her emotional state in that moment and she wants to approach to the Judges without tears....
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I guess you have two choices never marry through Jewish system ( I can't call it a law) since a man has all dominion over a wife he hasn't seen in 9 year's. Sorry guy died but she in school now. The stress will kill you before a divorce is finalized.
Amen to that! 💯 But at least she is free now..
Whatever is commanded to a man is also commanded to a woman. If a man writes a bill of divorce for his wife, then a women writes a bill of divorce for her husband. Deuteronomy 24:1-4 was only using "man writes a bill of divorce for his wife" as a demonstration to show how to divorce your spouse.
Absolutely ridiculous….our lord loves us all the same….men just continue to treat women as objects of ownership….shameful….
Facts!
It’s disgusting
Amen to that!! 💯 Men are supposed to love their wives and honor them and protect them. The Bible even says that!!
Women are also able to defend themselves, just like men are. The Tanakh shows that women can also own property, plant vineyards, have power, build cities, and go in battle.
another truly heartwrenching story. thanks for continuing to make me think. culture can be beautiful, but it can also hold you in chains.
So well stated!
Culture dominated by men... there is no 50/50 balance.
Disrespecting a convert calling them a gentile... Is beyond disrespecting the Torah and sages.
Why do they try to hold onto these women who clearly don't want to be with them?
i'm an israeli atheist and both my parents are observant jews and i must say that this kind of cases make me sick and wish religion never existed...its a modern slavery and i wish more people would start to wake up. i love my country but i dont like the direction which its headed.
Havent you noticed all over the world is same problem? Its because of 0% beer - no chemistry, they create platonic combinations for couples. Forced marriages are aliens plans
God isn’t the problem - organized religion is the problem.
A lot of people have died because of religion not good Decent people have died because of it
And everyone thinks that their own religion is the best
Amen
So helpful to study this culture.
Makes me wonder how close Hebrew Yiddish is to Persian. Muslim women can take Khulla but often legally have difficulty getting divorced with alimony and child support.
Amen to that! It is pretty much the same in the same aspect!! 💯
I also wish the captions were easier to read
The subtitles cant be seen!!! Please change the style and the colour!
I feel for the woman with the disabled husband. That has to be so hard. I believe that she still cares for him so deeply. However, she does deserve to have a best friend and a love for the rest of her life. That is so terribly difficult. I would hope my own husband would stick with me if the situation was reversed. However, would I want to trap him like that. Sooo difficult.
How can you say that. G-d does not permit divorce based on an injury. How sad, what if it was the other way around.
I'm very sorry for the husband in this case.
And my Bubela was right when she would tell me " be careful what you wish for, you may get it" I wanted to become an orthodox jew ooooy.
I really Dislike sub titles I think it takes away from what your watching ,But I thought it would be interesting do I Slowly started and had to skip back alot because the writing went by so quick and then to add to it the writing being in white so when it was over a lite or white background it made it even harder.
Thanks for sharing.
There are grounds for divorce for women under biblical law. It may take many years of shaming to get a get, and I am grateful for this woman.
It’s insane to me
Awwwww, i wonder whatbare the future prospects for her to settle down again, i.e. how would she go about getting married as a divorcee?
Spoken like a man, the same applies to the man, how can any woman ever trust him? This is absolute nonsense. It takes two to make and two to break it.
The whole concept is a strange one, bloke: I want get married, Fixer: Here you go,
Many divorced people in todays society all over the world.
what religion is this? everyone has right to get freedom if they didnt have mutual feeling each other. so difficult
Unfortunately the man has to sign a gett not sure if I spelled it correctly but it means that if the man does not sign the woman is out of luck
Judaism, Israeli Jews are the least Jewish.
Judaism
Why is she using her wiper blades, there is no rain?
Probably left them on last time she used the car, and her mind’s on something else? Happens all the time.
Could be insects?
How a woman wants a divorce and the husband has to agree? This is madness and craziness. I will not ever be a Jew, well first off I love my own way.
It is only for the Orthodox and above or if you live there in Israel. This is not for most Jewish people at all.
if you just immigrated and live in Israel, you cannot even get married in Israel. Only outside. They have some absurd laws.
@@simplegirlslifestyle261 WOW. Oh no ma'am, I am good.
@@simplegirlslifestyle261 I think it's because Israel don't practice the civil marriage, only the religious one.
EQUALITY …. Is this not reconciling the opposites by Making Man and woman have Equality? True liberation that must come when the Male Rabbis create Equality and relieve oppression for women with equal status and an equal voice with equal judgments ! B.H
It’s called a Gett not sure I spelled it right but if the man does not want to give it to his wife she is between a rock and hard place
upload Schiff on Chopin, which you deleted from me for some reason!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WTAF climbs the tree behind the two women at 7m39?!!!
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Really, some man says I need to put up with another man. God didnt make woman inferior to man.
Wow, I would never be married in Israel.... This shocks me, as I am an American Jew....
Errado. Muito errado
Mrs. lawyer, you are soooooo amazing. may there be more lawyers like you to help women in Israel. May GOD bless Israel, may GOD bless Jerusalem the eternal capital of the Jewish people. Amen. i would suggest the daughter not to be so hard on her mother but to allow her to hug her, she didnt want drama but only to love her daughter.
The daughter was a bratty kid towards her mom, disrespectful.
whaT we have no idea
This was never our way of living
So sick 😫 💩
That’s why they hope for sons I have 2 daughters and it’s so offensive
Is this the same with all Jewish women all over the world?
no
Sad
Amazing documentary... despite the difficult topic it makes me realize what a privilege it is to grow up in a culture centered around Torah and life subject to Hashem.
Oh yes and completely disrespectful of women….how convenient…my lord..love us as equally…men make these rules…shameful
I get what you’re saying…
@@angel12boucher17 you are so right. There’s a great disdain for women across all religions, which were made up by misogynistic men. What a disgrace!!
@@angel12boucher17 and Hollywood is respectful. Please. Liberals treat women like whores.
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What happened did her husband cheat on her with another woman or what?
They hsve to sit on the other side of the temple they can’t sit with their spouses
Ok fem
Amen to that!! 💯
There is no law like that in the Torah.
How dare she!
Whoever translated this needs to be fired
I still will never understand how any man truly feels that any god in any religion purposely wanted a women to be properly Or owned!!!
This is the exact problem with all religions…
You go to a church or synagogue or whatever…… people sit there and listen to one person tell them how their god wants them to live! Or their god wants one person better than the other!!! But you go to next church over and that person tells those people to do what he feels god want..
Really ….. sorry people .. it you are going to be ignorant and put faith in your gods but in your Rabbi pastor or whatever.. you will always be ignorant.. people who twist the word of their gods whoever it may be our second dividual‘s and the fact that people still are ignorant to this day they will listen to anyone who preaches about God even if deep down they know what that person is saying is crap I still to this day cannot imagine how religions put one human being over another it’s crazy to me
Amen to that! 💯 They are not property. Even the Bible says that men are supposed to love their wives and honor them and respect them and cherish them and take care of them.. 💯
That's crazy. I mean in the western europe you can easily get divorced.
Easy one keep all power in hands of men
So the lady whose husband was disabled, is that a normal thing for people to divorce in that situation in Israel? I know that marriage and having lots of kids is of the utmost importance to them but here I’m the USA she would probably be looked down on for leaving her disabled husband.
What a terribly sad story this is. I mean, of course, the man who is disabled and cannot give his wife a divorce. She seems to love him very much, but she can't be a nurse for the rest of her life. She is too young for that. I hope I've got this right, because it's impossible to read the English subtitles properly. I feel so sad for both of them. The wife and the husband. Did she say that she converted to Judaism? I don't think she should be treated as a lesser person just because she is a convert. I know that Judaism is more, much more, than a religion. It is a way of living as well, but she is a human being and we all have feelings. When I was young, I fell in love with a Jewish man, and we wanted to get married, but his mother was against it, because Judaism is passed through the wife. His mother and I got along well, she just felt that life and marriage are hard enough, without adding more stress to it. So, in the end, Michael and I didn't get married. I wonder if we made the right decision.
No you did not get it wrong, i followed the story through the subtitles and i have exactly the same feeling about Noa, the wife of (Guy ?) the ("disabled") man. I even found much more honest than the lawyer to whom no matter the means if the result is the divorce. I think that her husband kinda gave it up and "chose"to die just a few weeks later as a his real yes to his wife's liberation. God bless his soul and all the best to the loving Noa and her chidren.
I was also happy for that pregnant woman. I think her child cannot have the name of his father, but the private court decision will at least help this woman to feel a burden off her shoulders.
On the contrary, i was very uncomfortable with how that man was manipulated, and who, as i was afraid, will not get to see his child as promised.
I am muslim, i realised with this video how important it is to have secular laws. In my country we have secular laws ruling divorce and religion law allows women to ask for and obtain divorce without depending on the sole man' decision. You know what ? Some people still somehow find a way to create problems because of some so called religious tradition. Also...even with secular laws, some couples find a way or another to tore each orher, using even their children 😭😭😭
Oh no she did not say that she converted to judaism. The wife who converted is the one with a young child, whose husband was told by the rabbi to come back from Europe to give his agreement. She converted before she married.
If it was the wife who was disabled would you be fine if he left her?
So there is a piece you missed. For Noa and Guy, the disabled man and his wife, he abandoned his family and took off abroad 9 years prior. She had been trying to get a divorce all that time and he refused. The he returned to Israel where he suffered cardiac arrest before they could arrest him and force the divorce decree. He suffered a severe brain injury from lack of oxygen during the cardiac arrest and was in a coma. It doesn't say for how long. Once he woke up they were trying to finalize the divorce. She wasn't divorcing him because of his health condition. It was for abandoning the family 9 years prior. Her youngest child doesn't even remember his father because he was 2 months old when he took off and is 9 now. She has waited 9 years for a divorce so she can move on and have a chance to be free and remarry.
@@mider9996 she wasn't leaving because he was disabled. She wanted a divorce because he abandoned the family 9 years prior and then he suffered the cardiac arrest when he had recently returned to Israel. She said her 9 years old son didn't even know his father he was only 2 months old when his father took off abroad and didn't return.
Oh Israel a beautiful, precious country! But I do admit I saw and experienced much misogyny. The laws are so hard for women (and even tourist ladies, ie "Out of the pool NOW!"
Well, conservative religion, any religion, upholds male entitlement mentality.
Thank God I didn’t born in that country. ‼️🙄😱
Apparently the woman with the disabled husband is willing to dump a husband when it gets rough … what a selfish person with no idea how marriage is for better or worse
she probably wanted a divorce even before his accident....
I do not think it is selfish. The children do not have a father that is going to help them. Sad situation but husband does not even know what is going on.
When the disabled husband was in good health he abandoned his family several years. Then he come back and became ill. It is unfair for the wife, she was droped like a garbagebag and then when the husband becomes disabled she must take care of him. Awful.
Women are chained to their husband and Men are chained to their wife , women look for husband because they want It , united chained couple that's what marriage means , unión ... If you don't want be chained to a family better dont get marry ...
In the Ultra Orthadox Jewish community women are not equal to men
Amen and it’s really sad 😔
In REAL Judaism, men and women are equal.
Jewish women can also grant a bill of divorce. The Torah never suggests male dominance over women. We need to interpret the Torah and the rest of the Tanakh in a gender-neutral way.
Reality, evidence and statistics contradict your statement.
@@the_famous_reply_guy Watch it! REAL Judaism is NOT against women at all!
@@rabbialmodovar7231 are you suggesting that system is fair?
@@the_famous_reply_guy I’m afraid you don’t understand. God doesn’t NOT see women as inferior to men in any way. Male supremacy is absolutely NOT what God commanded. Genesis 3:16 is NOT a law or commandment. It was a prediction sexism, which God has always been against. You are getting it all wrong. If God is neither male or female, then so is his creation.
@@rabbialmodovar7231 a politically correct interpretation, but sexual dimorphism is real, a man cannot be a a woman or vice verse, so if a marriage becomes hostile and psychological harmful both parties need the capacity to terminate the situation in a reasonable manner, the gett places all the power in one parties hands.
This is not true, I'm an Orthodox Jew and woman are very much respected in my community. It says woman cannot get a divorce on her own, but in reality the Jewish court will force the husband to give a divorce if the wife wants one. The husband will be ostracized and isolated until he gives a divorce. In biblical times the court would give him lashes until he would give a divorce. In Judaism woman are considered holier than men. And in real Judaism woman are highly respected.
Thank you for speaking truth. These cases appear to be in communities with terrible rabbi who neglect Torah. My Rav would have literally flown on a plane with 5 men and forced me to sign a get if I did this garbage!!!
@@tziontalks8728 Well if thats the case, what about the Mikvah?
Women participating in mikvah, a ritual that defines them as "unclean" ?!
@@dawnatkinson7704 that’s only when they are on their Nidda (period). It doesn’t mean they are somehow evil or wrong. It means they can’t touch their husband and he can’t touch her. Many times a man becomes unclean. Many times an item is unclean and we can’t touch it or use it.
Then why are they so hard on these particular women? Is it this particular community only? This is a documentary, not a drama for television. I'm just curious.
@@lucyk2371 Amen to that!! 💯
There is one thing I love about Islam, if a woman wants a divorce, she can apply for 'Khula' and can get it. No husband or a man can stop her.
You really don’t believe that because it’s absolutely false. Women and men need to break free of Islamic ideology that violates your human rights. Then you would be a good Muslim that practices equality,peace and love.
@@MangoPM15 im sorry i don't understand. Are you saying, i don't believe my own religion or what? It's part of basic rights in Islam, you can check with any scholar or even look into the Quran. Khulah is something that a woman can demand and she can get it, no question, she can't be forced. There are real-life examples too.
@@The-writer-next-door In Islam, a woman who wishes to terminate her marriage contract without the consent of her husband must do so by applying to the “Shariah” Council. (Why should she even have to ask for consent) Yes, this type of divorce is commonly referred to what is known as a Khula but is NOT on demand.
and that is where the problem lies.
@@MangoPM15 And she gets that divorce in just one day, without any delay. That's what happened with my aunt. Her husband wasn't willing to leave her, so she went to shariah court, they just asked "do you want some time? want some time to think?" she said "no" and that's it, her divorce was finalized.
@@MangoPM15Ever faith and system has rules and regulations. Other than pure bias and prejudice against Islam I do not see where the problem lies in a woman being able to getting a divorce via court when her husband does not want to divorce her and she wants out.
How about a video about how men are chained to women by the laws that overwhelmingly favour women in divorce settlements, and by the cunning and not rarely used devise of conception without agreement.
It’s on the Bitter Incels With Body Odor channel, in their “whining that women will never hear” playlist.
@@strnglhld That’s True, but there is a big basis for their bitterness.
No woke social justice bias in this film 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Why are men chained to women? Why are men forced to pay money to someone who he isn't married to? Why are men automatically given less when it comes to divorce in the us? Each system has flaws.
Who made the decision to use extra-ordinary means to keep the heart attack husband alive; if it was the wife, then she needs to stick by him. She brought him back to live like this?! No sympathy whatsoever. He's well rid of her. Poor man. Sickening the way she hounds him for the divorce. RIP.
Divorce should never be granted willy nilly just so 'liberated' woman can commit acts of adultery.
And enter the controlling one.
What are you talking about like men to commit adultery Men do it a lot more then women
Its not adultery if theyre divorced
@@debrafirestone861 Amen to that! 💯
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