How Speedrunners Broke Sonic Frontiers in a Week

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  • Опубліковано 3 лип 2024
  • Sonic Frontiers has been out for a week as of today and Speedrunners went to work right away on finding tech. This has resulted in one of the most broken Sonic Speedruns to date... and we're only in week 1. If you like this vid remember to like and sub if you wanna see more Sonic Frontiers content :D
    0:00 - Intro
    0:22 - Island Skips
    1:52 - DSS Shuffle
    3:40 - Kronos Skip
    4:16 - Ares Skip
    5:39 - Thanks for watching!
    Make sure to follow my socials AND make sure to sub to the channel for more Speedrun content in the future!
    / dawnsr
    / dawnsr_
    Sonic Frontiers speedruns are amazing! What would you like to see me cover next? I'm thinking of breaking down a World Record Speedrun of Any% as a video, does that sound cool? What about Koco% or something to do with Chao?
    #sonicfrontiers #sonicthehedgehog #speedrun
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  • @ShibuyasBeat
    @ShibuyasBeat Рік тому +377

    Wait so you're telling me while i was searching for stuff in ares island i was at the BOSS AREA?

    • @vDREEGONv
      @vDREEGONv Рік тому +80

      This is exactly how I felt when I casually just walked into that area lmao. Didn't think much of it then, now it's literally a skip everyone uses lol.

    • @Electrical010
      @Electrical010 Рік тому +27

      @@vDREEGONv I might actually use it to fight wyvern for my lv 1 only run.
      Saves me hours of time.

    • @flameheadshero
      @flameheadshero Рік тому +15

      @@vDREEGONv Yeah I was confused cause there was nothing up there and then I ran through the tunnel backwards to meet the rubble blocking the entrance on the other side

    • @RongDMemer
      @RongDMemer Рік тому +1

      Lol

    • @SlapzOVH
      @SlapzOVH Рік тому +2

      Yea but I haven’t played the game yet😢😢

  • @mythosinfinite6736
    @mythosinfinite6736 Рік тому +90

    The fact that you had to opportunity to normalize "Hedgehog Space Program" and decided not to heed that call to destiny proves that our bloodlines are doomed to be at war

    • @DawnSRC
      @DawnSRC  Рік тому +14

      Facts 📠

    • @DuelSenseEdgeDrift.
      @DuelSenseEdgeDrift. 9 місяців тому

      ​@@DawnSRCI don't know what y'all talking about but I liked it anyways lol😅

    • @DuelSenseEdgeDrift.
      @DuelSenseEdgeDrift. 9 місяців тому +1

      Also it's sad cause I think people can beat Sonic forces with no glitches faster than sonic frontiers with all the game breaking glitches 😂.

    • @DawnSRC
      @DawnSRC  9 місяців тому

      @@DuelSenseEdgeDrift. they're actually really close, the Frontiers WR is 59:46 and Forces is 55:36 despite Frontiers being a much much longer game!

  • @JkMaNz
    @JkMaNz Рік тому +128

    Seeing the game slowly be broken in the discord is fascinating, thx for making a good breakdown of the tech dude

  • @AnonyBoiii
    @AnonyBoiii Рік тому +67

    Sonic is the series for speed-runners
    It’s all about speed. It’s perfect. And Frontiers are no different

    • @saplingdatree4111
      @saplingdatree4111 Рік тому +1

      Let's just hope this isn't the final frontier

    • @DuelSenseEdgeDrift.
      @DuelSenseEdgeDrift. 9 місяців тому

      ​@@saplingdatree4111actually the final update shall happen September 28th and should've been called "Final Frontier" instead of final horizon 😕 like how cyloop should've been called cy dash.

  • @Mo-.
    @Mo-. Рік тому +11

    On day -3, people were already finding speedrun techniques like the homing attack boost cancel

    • @DawnSRC
      @DawnSRC  Рік тому +2

      Yeah back when people were playing on Switch Emulators lol

  • @vDREEGONv
    @vDREEGONv Рік тому +42

    Sick video! ^_^ Really great for beginners who want to get into the game :) It really is insane how much this game is being pushed and it's an honor to have contributed to the speedrun and see so many people enjoy the run a lot more now because of it

    • @DawnSRC
      @DawnSRC  Рік тому +5

      Yo thanks! Appreciate the work you've done so far. Hyped to see the Any% time keepin dropping.

  • @overthinkingintrovert
    @overthinkingintrovert Рік тому +2

    "OK Amy, I'm just gonna go fight the giant titan now"
    "But you said you needed all the chaos emer-"
    *sonic proceeds to rapidly ascend to the heavens*

  • @orealz
    @orealz Рік тому +3

    "Even without wings I can still fly"
    _Sonic the hedgehog_

  • @aexonity
    @aexonity Рік тому +6

    Thank god I found this video.
    I’ve been craving those titan fights but didn’t feel like rerunning through all of the story, but thanks to this I can speed the process up a ton!

    • @DawnSRC
      @DawnSRC  Рік тому

      Glad I could help! Thankfully these tricks aren’t suuuuper tough either!

  • @moonlitcafe15
    @moonlitcafe15 Рік тому +13

    Great as always dawn! Can always count on you to figure out the awesome history behind the sonic speedrun community, first sa2 and now in frontiers! Genuinely enjoy watching this game get figured out and can't wait for the things to come!

  • @archdiangelo7930
    @archdiangelo7930 Рік тому +3

    This is the true mark of a great Sonic game: having enough jank to make the speedrun suitably wild and not *much* more than that

  • @dwaynetherockhardjohnson1712
    @dwaynetherockhardjohnson1712 Рік тому +8

    Sick video as always! Can't wait to see what this game looks like a month from now.

  • @FwendlyMushwoom
    @FwendlyMushwoom Рік тому +3

    I managed to get up to the Ares Island boss area when I was just exploring on my normal first playthrough, I didn't consider it to be a skip though! I looked at it and thought, "yep, this is definitely the boss arena, but it probably won't trigger until I get all the emeralds." Had no idea I could've just climbed the tower and started the fight!

  • @noahpauley
    @noahpauley Рік тому +7

    Great video Dawn!!! After Em showed us how to do it on stream, I haven't been able to stop having fun with it in my casual playthrough.

  • @SuperSonic71087
    @SuperSonic71087 Рік тому +4

    Great explanation! This is very helpful. Awesome video overall!

  • @Akai_Music
    @Akai_Music Рік тому +6

    There was an alternative way of entering the Titan area (I mean giganto), which was by clipping through the wall that prevents you from accessing that area. The clip is somewhere in UA-cam I forgot where :/

    • @DawnSRC
      @DawnSRC  Рік тому +4

      Yeah I didn't include it since we don't know if it will really see use but I will include it in a future video if it does see implementation.

  • @Zethoro
    @Zethoro Рік тому +3

    yoooo another great video! Keep up the good work man.

  • @kitifulnines
    @kitifulnines Рік тому +8

    I just joined the frontiers discord, found the link to this video, and was amazed. I'm surprised and yet also kind of not surprised that the game was broken this fast lol. I've been interested in speedrunning frontiers since I first finished the game so this video was a really great introduction 👍

  • @WKRLoyhsor
    @WKRLoyhsor Рік тому +2

    Awesome vid man ! Just found it you're so underrated bro

  • @davidtate2000
    @davidtate2000 Рік тому +3

    Common DawnSR banger video

  • @BlueBlur_37
    @BlueBlur_37 Рік тому +6

    So I wasn't the only one who got in the Ares Boss area by accident😭

  • @AveRagerGD
    @AveRagerGD Рік тому

    I love how one giganto is being completely destroyed by sonic while the other is just standing off to the side

  • @Emerldd
    @Emerldd Рік тому +10

    bro this game is already so broken 🤯 dope video

    • @crynosinso8324
      @crynosinso8324 Рік тому

      It's not broken, it's by chance and obscure use of physics that glitches like these are found. Just because a game has obscure scenario breaking glitches and stuff does not make it broken. If anything you should be saying the glitch is broken because of what you can do with it.

    • @Emerldd
      @Emerldd Рік тому

      @@crynosinso8324 you misunderstand my fellow internet gamer. as a speedrunner i think this is a very cool and pogchamp that we can "break" the game. it is just speedrunning vernacular when i say it is broken

    • @crynosinso8324
      @crynosinso8324 Рік тому

      @@Emerldd Oh. Ok. Sorry about that.

    • @harlinambury5131
      @harlinambury5131 Рік тому

      @@Emerldd what a truly wholesome response

    • @Ninja-eh4cu
      @Ninja-eh4cu Рік тому

      @@crynosinso8324 this is how someone should respond to accidently mistaking someones comment

  • @Kirb5
    @Kirb5 Рік тому +1

    so when I saw this 8 days ago after I beat froniters Im replaying now and I was searching through my watch history in order to find your vid a goat for making this video and absolute legend

  • @deevoo121
    @deevoo121 Рік тому +2

    I CANT FUCKING BELIEVE DAWN JUST HIT THE GRIDDY

  • @TheDIZZYCLAN
    @TheDIZZYCLAN Рік тому +3

    Great Video, and a very detailed explanation. This game is gonna be a great speed game. Such is par for most sonic titles.

  • @rirtrirt4757
    @rirtrirt4757 Рік тому +3

    Would be really cool if sega decides to patch emerald skips in a clever way. If the fight triggers sonic perfoms the transformation animation before falling to the ground as he doesnt have enough emeralds to initiate transformation making you fight the boss as base sonic.

  • @PGrayOfficial
    @PGrayOfficial Рік тому +4

    Wait… I didn’t even use the puzzle area to get to the boss area… I just… climbed some walls and got lucky, I guess. I thought I was supposed to be there like it was just another area to explore lol

    • @DawnSRC
      @DawnSRC  Рік тому +1

      Yeah! It's crazy how easy they made it lol you can pretty much enter it from all sides if you try hard enough.

    • @corruptedteka
      @corruptedteka Рік тому

      Honestly my theory is there was meant to be stuff there but they just didn't have the time so they left the upper area unfinished and with no invisible wall.

  • @BlackLion45
    @BlackLion45 Рік тому +2

    I was actually thinking of makeing a meme for the hsp where its just an image of sonic saluting with 2001: a space odyssey running in the background... LUL

    • @DawnSRC
      @DawnSRC  Рік тому +1

      Ok this is amazing lmao

  • @BeelZX
    @BeelZX Рік тому +1

    Lmao Hedgehog Space Program, what a nice reference

  • @jbmtjoy
    @jbmtjoy Рік тому +4

    Love the video! Just a bit of friendly advice: you might want to consider lowering the music volume a couple of notches. It’s hard to hear you. But that didn’t detract from the video itself, so well done!

  • @mikeycoolmoney9184
    @mikeycoolmoney9184 Рік тому +3

    Any griddy hitters?

  • @zekeram129
    @zekeram129 Рік тому +1

    I think it should be called the Reverse ARK

  • @dwaitley24
    @dwaitley24 Рік тому +2

    Very poggers video presented to you by Mr. Poggies

  • @brandito5480
    @brandito5480 Рік тому +1

    I absolutely love doing these skips in waiting for a skip for Chaos and Island 5

  • @djangosouthwest6043
    @djangosouthwest6043 Рік тому +1

    This is awesome I was trying to figure this out and I had a feeling this was possible but once again the speed running community prove the prove 💯

  • @keystone5750
    @keystone5750 Рік тому +1

    oh i've just been calling it stomp kara because you're kara cancelling the stomp lol

  • @sagacious03
    @sagacious03 Рік тому +1

    Personally, I prefer "Hedgehog Space Program".
    Anyway, decent analysis video! Thanks for uploading!

  • @omnicross4834
    @omnicross4834 Рік тому +1

    Shoulda been called the super bounce rather than the DsS Shuffle or Hedgehog Space Program

  • @KING_B_Lobster
    @KING_B_Lobster Рік тому +1

    It makes sense you tap it something I found out quickly is that your boost slows down later on it the boost so you go faster by tap boosting rather than holding it

  • @vito6197
    @vito6197 Рік тому +1

    As soon as I saw good gameplay of this game, I knew that speedrunners were gonna love this game.

  • @evoplayz4567
    @evoplayz4567 Рік тому +1

    Speedrun I always knew this would happen

  • @HeroOfLogic
    @HeroOfLogic Рік тому +2

    I really hope it doesn't get patched! The devs should want us to go fast!

    • @DawnSRC
      @DawnSRC  Рік тому +1

      Yeah it's something that won't affect casual gameplay and helps speedrunners so I hope they don't touch it!

  • @lyricmammal3724
    @lyricmammal3724 Рік тому +1

    Should also help with that filler island too

  • @brianpso
    @brianpso Рік тому +2

    I knew the moment DsS uploaded that video that this shit would destroy the game somehow, he's just that good at breaking shit lol. I didn't expect super sonic to be a thing even without the emeralds though, that was such a huge oversight by them, assuming players wouldn't find a way to get to the arenas early. Only thing that bothers me are those names for the trick lmao, I wish DsS had named it himself instead of trusting the community to do it.

  • @Llucmenork
    @Llucmenork Рік тому +1

    I actually got to the boss area of the second island too using my own ways when the game launched, but did not know you had to trigger it, so... I climbed the tower for nothing and gave up.

  • @BrailleGamer04
    @BrailleGamer04 Рік тому +1

    This is so crazy🔥🔥🔥

  • @RongDMemer
    @RongDMemer Рік тому +2

    Sonic frontier is a blast for speedrunners

    • @DawnSRC
      @DawnSRC  Рік тому +1

      Sonic games make for great speedgames usually, glad its also the case here!

  • @audiojack2540
    @audiojack2540 Рік тому +1

    i prefer calling it the stomp boost, super launch or free flying

  • @alifulloflove
    @alifulloflove Рік тому +5

    based gamer

  • @hunter5507
    @hunter5507 Рік тому +1

    And we then found pinball skip
    Btw i play the switch version and started a save where i am only allowed a power level of 10 or 1 but everything else can be upgraded to 99

  • @SantiagoCraft
    @SantiagoCraft Рік тому +1

    Ngl this is the first sonic game I ever attempted to speedrun under 3hrs

  • @captainmega6310
    @captainmega6310 Рік тому +2

    Oh... you know, I wasn't expecting this long ass game to be cracked open already but Sonic fans do be Sonic fans

  • @soul1795
    @soul1795 Рік тому +1

    If there is one person that can find a way to break a Sonic game day 1
    Its DSS

  • @saxenblake6100
    @saxenblake6100 Рік тому

    I feel like hedgehog space program is much easier to say an abbreviation as it would be called HSP which would much easier and faster to say than DSSS (DSS Shuffle) or just the normal way, DSS Shuffle.

    • @DawnSRC
      @DawnSRC  Рік тому

      Yeah I just say Shuffle or HSP, still don't really have a favorite lmao

    • @saxenblake6100
      @saxenblake6100 Рік тому

      @@DawnSRC fair

  • @geraldd500
    @geraldd500 Рік тому +1

    Gotta go fast!

  • @crynosinso8324
    @crynosinso8324 Рік тому

    I personally found that you don't have to go to that exact area on Ares Island (the point with the ball puzzle). I'm pretty sure plenty of other people have already figured this out, but some of the walls bordering the Boss Arena have little areas that you can boost jump off of. I'd imagine it'd shave at least a second or so, but I don't really know, I'm not an expert.

    • @mechashadow
      @mechashadow Рік тому

      Can you explain the boss trigger? I ca'nt get it to work

    • @crynosinso8324
      @crynosinso8324 Рік тому

      @@mechashadow If you look on the map, it should be around the area you'd actually enter through in a small canyon like area. Last I remember, it was around a spring or something, I don't know, it's been a bit since I tried it. You just have to keep running around that area until the music changes. Sorry if that wasn't much help.

  • @NinjaFrog-nr3bs
    @NinjaFrog-nr3bs Рік тому +2

    speedrunners speed fast

  • @Sogudu
    @Sogudu Рік тому +4

    oh wow, in my first playthrough of the game i actually reached the boss area in island 2 early without knowing it. crazy to think everything couldve been skipped if i knew about the trigger

    • @DawnSRC
      @DawnSRC  Рік тому

      Yeah it's definitely super easy to get over there lol it's like they didn't even try to stop it.

  • @SonicEndouRed
    @SonicEndouRed 11 місяців тому

    is there any chance u can cover the history of forces? it's also very broken for speedruns!

  • @ProTaJDI
    @ProTaJDI Рік тому

    personally, I call the dss shuffle the hedgehog rocket, though honestly think i like dss shuffle more

    • @DawnSRC
      @DawnSRC  Рік тому +2

      Hedgehog Rocket is pretty good lol, similar vibes to the Space Program.

  • @Memerroni
    @Memerroni Рік тому +1

    Me: F I S H I N G

  • @jesuspernia8031
    @jesuspernia8031 Рік тому +1

    The game itself is really polished besides the pop in. But man that doesn’t stop the speed runners from exploiting the game.

    • @DawnSRC
      @DawnSRC  Рік тому +3

      Yea it’s crazy because in the later islands they took steps to stop us: Chaos has a Killplane in the Arena, Ouranos doesn’t let us near it. Where these two are actually possible.

  • @aperson6935
    @aperson6935 Рік тому

    Question: will anything happen if you use the DSS shuffle in Kronos island after you’ve completed the game?

  • @genericsonicfan581
    @genericsonicfan581 Рік тому +1

    It's a sonic game. You're basically speed running a speed run.

    • @DawnSRC
      @DawnSRC  Рік тому

      Sonic games were made to be speedruns. Glad to see them finally get more popular!

  • @roberttaylr
    @roberttaylr Рік тому +2

    Hedgehog Space Program is way better than DSS

    • @DawnSRC
      @DawnSRC  Рік тому +1

      We’ve since reached a middle ground where the Kronos Island Skip is called HSP, since you need the most height. While the general tech is DSS Shuffle.

  • @thesilverden5378
    @thesilverden5378 Рік тому +2

    1:44 why is there 2 gigantos?

    • @DawnSRC
      @DawnSRC  Рік тому

      If you do the Sequence where Sonic fights Giganto for the first time, for some reason there is a Giganto that just vibes in the boss arena spawned in lol

  • @LoganEGMG
    @LoganEGMG Рік тому +1

    Does this trick work if you already beat Giganto? I wanna see if I can re-fight it

    • @DawnSRC
      @DawnSRC  Рік тому +1

      Some people in the comments seemed to have already tested it. Sadly, it doesn’t look like it.

  • @xaviercomas2424
    @xaviercomas2424 Рік тому +1

    if you got s rank on 1-2 you’re 0.5% of the top speed runners

  • @shoe9880
    @shoe9880 Рік тому

    If u do these even tho u beat them do they still spawn?

  • @Dhdgcvnnnfx
    @Dhdgcvnnnfx Рік тому +1

    Sonic frontiers is really good I play the nintendo switch version but I'm getting the ps5 version cause it's that good but I wish they made the classic levels and I mean the ones in cyber space like Green Hill and all the other ones open world I've always wondered what an open world green hill zone would look like

  • @tricky2684
    @tricky2684 Рік тому

    Bro I have been trying to find the spot where you run through the part to spawn gigantio and I can’t find it

  • @J-roll1
    @J-roll1 Рік тому +1

    Good thing though is these are almost unnoticeable in game unless you really try to break the game mean the glitches aren't that bad I feel

    • @DawnSRC
      @DawnSRC  Рік тому +1

      Yeah! I'm hopeful these won't be patched out since few of the tricks speedrunners use will affect the casual experience. Love when that happens.

  • @alfinprathama8219
    @alfinprathama8219 Рік тому +1

    Thanks for the tips, but I won't skip it because I want to see all the cutscenes using Japanese voice for fun in my second run

  • @antoniofranciscomartinezga737
    @antoniofranciscomartinezga737 11 місяців тому

    Sonic the jet

  • @1rzzz
    @1rzzz Рік тому +2

    i love sonic frontier 🌎🌎🌎🌎

  • @thisguy7514
    @thisguy7514 Рік тому +1

    I got it thank u!!!!

  • @angelcaraballo8638
    @angelcaraballo8638 Рік тому

    Is this patched? How do you dodge forward like that? I just keep side stepping with RB, and it says press RT but that makes me boost

  • @speedsword250
    @speedsword250 Рік тому +1

    Can you use this to refight bosses
    Edit:I did the glitch myself and sadly no, you cannot fight giganto again

    • @DawnSRC
      @DawnSRC  Рік тому

      Ah I was going to test it but very sad to hear that it doesn't work :/

  • @MadamMobius
    @MadamMobius Рік тому +1

    wait... this video made me realize that you're not supposed to be able to access the ares island boss arena. i don't remember how i got in there, but i remember running around the area and leaving before the boss. ill have to check my footage to see how i did it lmao

    • @ethanjohnson3642
      @ethanjohnson3642 Рік тому

      So what did you find?

    • @MadamMobius
      @MadamMobius Рік тому

      @@ethanjohnson3642 well from the looks of it i went onto a platforming segment that was close to the top of the rocks, jumped on to them, then from there just ran across them and jumped over the ravines until i naturally wandered into the arena. the platforming segment wasnt even that far from the boss arena so im wondering why its so easy? the upper part of the rocks lead right over the gate too. totally wild

    • @ethanjohnson3642
      @ethanjohnson3642 Рік тому

      @@MadamMobius do you mind uploading the segment so I can see exactly where you were?

    • @MadamMobius
      @MadamMobius Рік тому +1

      @@ethanjohnson3642 just uploaded it as unlisted. the URL is NZLwQzJKdRk so if you insert that after the "watch?v=" in a standard youtube URL you should be able to see it

    • @ethanjohnson3642
      @ethanjohnson3642 Рік тому +1

      @@MadamMobius thanks man! Very niche and I appreciate it 🙏.

  • @chalkers
    @chalkers Рік тому +1

    Does it respawn the bosses on complete save files?

    • @Lumiiify
      @Lumiiify Рік тому +1

      No

    • @DawnSRC
      @DawnSRC  Рік тому

      According to Speedsword in the comments it doesn't and lumi as well. Which is honestly tragic, would have been super cool.

  • @poopsmithjones1
    @poopsmithjones1 Рік тому

    whats the song at the end

    • @DawnSRC
      @DawnSRC  Рік тому

      One Way Dream by NateWantsToBattle!

  • @qwarkslayer6173
    @qwarkslayer6173 Рік тому +1

    ohhhhhh iv done this by accident many times i guess it was a bug

  • @colecarroll4466
    @colecarroll4466 Рік тому +2

    Does this still work??

    • @DawnSRC
      @DawnSRC  Рік тому

      Yep still works and is used in the Any% route!

  • @wayverleesoulsong
    @wayverleesoulsong Рік тому +1

    Demolished /pos or Demolished /neg?

    • @DawnSRC
      @DawnSRC  Рік тому

      Well that’s really up to interpretation isn’t it.

  • @Shrando
    @Shrando Рік тому +1

    Hi dawn

  • @Patorikoku
    @Patorikoku Рік тому +1

    Typical Sonic game

  • @solidmoon8266
    @solidmoon8266 Рік тому

    I found Sonic Frontiers was honestly not much to offer....

  • @Italianman211
    @Italianman211 Рік тому

    i want the game but i have no money lol gg(good game) tho

  • @stamdar1
    @stamdar1 Рік тому

    the music is super distracting. I'm here for the speedrun breakdown, not some funky beats. i WANT to hear the narration.

    • @DawnSRC
      @DawnSRC  Рік тому +1

      Yeah it was sad, as I realized how bad it was too late. Will do better in the next ones.

  • @Lewizzi
    @Lewizzi Рік тому +1

    It’s so buggy, it kinda reminds me of 06

    • @DawnSRC
      @DawnSRC  Рік тому +2

      There is a good amount of jank but all Sonic games are buggy. It reminds me more of SADX/SA2 jank than 06 personally.

    • @lonelyonionagain.
      @lonelyonionagain. Рік тому +1

      Not even close to 06.

    • @Lewizzi
      @Lewizzi Рік тому

      @@lonelyonionagain. right! It’s worse

    • @lonelyonionagain.
      @lonelyonionagain. Рік тому +1

      @@Lewizzi Bruh.

    • @Lewizzi
      @Lewizzi Рік тому

      @@lonelyonionagain. it’s my fav game of all time