I'm from Africa. People from a Western background will never fully understand what she is speaking of. This woman is filled with holy love and when she speaks about full possession, she means being completely led/yielded to the Holy Spirit. Go into the dark places of Africa and live the life she lives. You will have a measure of understanding that doesn't come from just reading your bible and criticizing her from your guarded walls. I am a healthy skeptic and followed her and others like her. This is legit. Love compelling you to walk in the grace poured out to you.
Your level of "I am only that is right", and "I do everything for my ego" is over 9000. You have same problem as people from bible, when Jesus healed man in Sabbath. + She is doing the gospel. And whot you do? Where is your love work, joy work, justice work, peace work? Are you so blinded that you don't see love anymore, and that Jezus is love, and he want 1 thing from you - love? And you must be possesed to not see her love. Realy Realy deeply possesed. And if you think she is trying to win favor of men, then I am witness of whole new level of deep stupidity. Lern some basic psychology, that are used everyday life ;-). I don't ask you for more, just basic abilities to know whot haracter other person have. // sory for bad english, your ability to judge is so broken, that I think it's fair to write it in this bad english. + how can you judge if you don't have basic abilities to judgne, go to shool!
I agree with you. I've seen those kind of demonic manifestations in South America and also among North American Indians, (Canada), but I have also seen the manifestations of the Holy Spirit she mentions, holy rollers, people literally flying in the air thrown by the Spirit. There's a huge difference between them both, and what a joy when those people touched by God stand on their feet again. Lives transformed, pure joy
Rhonda Jamison: Well, seeing that God is working through her, shows that she is preaching the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Well, she doing what the Bible tells us to do. She must believe Jesus for everything she does and gets. She demonstrates the Gospel and preaches that you are saved by grace. The Apostle Paul preached faith and grace; yet, he did a great deal of works, in fact when you preach the Gospel of Jesus Christ or go to church, or pray, you are doing WORKS. She is totally sold out to Jesus Christ. She obeys God for she does these things for the glory of the Father and the Son, who did his WORKS by the power of the Holy Spirit. Another gospel? No, she is demonstrating and proclaiming the same gospel Paul, Peter, and John preached. Her life and ministry is dedicated to pleasing GOD, not man; for if she were trying to please man, she would not be talking about how God has raised the dead, healed the sick, and met their needs. She would be cowing down to YOU. If you were sola scriptura, you would be doing what I Cor 14:1 says. You seek to prophesy and speak in other tongues as "the Holy Spirit" gives you utterance. You would heal the sick and raise the dead.
Firs time when I heard Heidi I was crying through all her testimony and what she was telling about Jesus as Love. I experienced Love as never before . Jesus became more alive for me and I had that great desire in my heart experience Him more and more . Thank you dear sister Heidi .May my love towards our Lord will touch you too🙏💛❤️💜
I just watched another UA-cam channel critique this particular video and the things that this woman is saying about the Holy Spirit. One of the fruits of the spirit is self control another is gentleness. Not thrashing about and being flipped three or four rows. The Holy Spirit doesn't possess people. Neither does our Heavenly Father. I think it might be safe to say Heidi that whatever spirit you are experiencing that causes convulsing and flipping about is not actually The Holy Spirit. The characteristics that she is describing sound like those of the Kundalini spirit. I wholeheartedly pray that is not the case.
You will never understand until you have an own experience with the Holy Spirit. Some things can't be explain in words. The gospel is also consuming fire, is also power of the Holy Spirit, but that is a personal experience. The eternal life is knowing Jesus (by experience)
@@belengonzalez2419 If you'll read the majority of the comments for this video, you will see that I'm not alone in thinking this. The Word says to test every spirit. Watch Heidi lay hands on the boy @ Bethel Church...not the Holy Spirit.
"Master,” said John, “we saw someone driving out demons in your name and we tried to stop him, because he is not one of us.” 50 “Do not stop him,” Jesus said, “for whoever is not against you is for you.” Luke 9:49-50 24 But when the Pharisees heard this, they said, “It is only by Beelzebul, the prince of demons, that this fellow drives out demons.” 25 Jesus knew their thoughts and said to them, “Every kingdom divided against itself will be ruined, and every city or household divided against itself will not stand. 26 If Satan drives out Satan, he is divided against himself. How then can his kingdom stand? Mattew 12:24-26
well; when I see her stagger around a church podium as if she just "slammed" a fifth of vodka, and then "pretend" to read from the Bible as she whispers doctrines of demons out to the crowd as though a "thus say'eth the Lord" moment is in play, I don't understand why evryone can't see this for what it is! there is a clip on UA-cam that clearly shows her impart a demon to a young man who immediately afterwards begins to "flail" around on the floor in uncontrollable torment (screaming, raging) - and you don't see that young man recover from it! - these are but just a few examples among many so I'm sorry, that's all of the "evidence" I need. She's not of God and does not know Jesus!
the best what God can do to us is rid ourselves from all the tidiness and religiousness and make us a vessel. To stop being in control of everything and let him take all the glory and leave you with nothing, even make a fool out of you looks weird from the outside but it is the greatest present to have to hide or hold back to him anymore. He is so good and nothing he does is to your harm.
Dear Eva:, I am not associated with Heidi but what she describes is a truly manifestation of the holy spirit , it is just the way He is, Heidi is not inventing anything. Have you ever tried it? I would really encourage you to do so..
1 John 4:1 “Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.”
Watch a bit from Daniel Colenda's experience. Pure GOSPEL preacher, salvation preacher, no nonsense. Very stable man. Hear what he has to say on the topic. (He is evangelist Reinhardt Bonnke's progeny, btw)
Heidi Baker is a beautiful woman, blessed by God and fully filled with the Holy Spirit. She has been fortunate enough to witness the AMAZING power of our Mighty God, and she's right.. He can and will do whatever He wants. Possession is all-consuming, dominating, having an overpowering influence. That's exactly what I pray the Holy Spirit does to me!
2 Thessalonians 2: 8-12 “Then that lawless one will be revealed whom the Lord will slay with the breath of His mouth and bring to an end by the appearance of His coming; that is, the one whose coming is in accord with the activity of Satan, with all power and signs and false wonders, and with all the deception of wickedness for those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth so as to be saved. For this reason God will send upon them a deluding influence so that they will believe what is false, in order that they all may be judged who did not believe the truth, but took pleasure in wickedness.”
1 Corinthians 12:3 3 Therefore I want you to know that no one who is speaking by the Spirit of God says, “Jesus be cursed,” and no one can say, “Jesus is Lord,” except by the Holy Spirit.
Ugh. If the Body of Christ had any sense, which I doubt now, it would fast and pray and ask the Holy Spirit to right the wrongs, heal our leaders and set them free. The one's who really really love the Lord will get this. The one's who don't won't care. They are wolves in sheep's clothing or real wolves. What gets me is that God's people don't read the Bible enough or know how to study it enough to do anything about this. They just go along to get along even if this so called revival started out being directed by the Holy Spirit.
What Heidi is teaching and does in her church is not biblical, what this man is saying is true. What Heidi teaches you won't find it in the bible, the bible teaches about self control and order. If you notice she says " a holy spirit" not the holy spirit, what spirit is she talking about, what's she does is demonic, it's unbiblical and you people should run.
I will never understand why religious people always go out of their way to equate the Holy Spirit with the devil. They did this to Jesus, they did this to Paul, and they do it today. I have known Heidi for nearly 20 years. She is far from perfect human being, but I can honestly say that the life she has lived is one of absolute surrender to Christ. The fruit of her and Rolland's ministry speaks for itself. Millions of people saved, miracles that reflect the Gospels and the Book of Acts, tens of thousands of churches planted, they feed 50,000 people a day, started schools for children, are currently building a university for the nation, they've taken in and cared for thousands of orphans ... and that's just the good works that flow from their ministry. Let's not forget that the marks suffering for Christ's sake are also on her body as she has been beaten for the Gospel, had stones thrown at her, had knives pulled on her, had a contract on her life, and many other persecutions. In it all, she continues to say yes to Jesus. When you go live as she has lived and bear the fruit of her life that continually points to Jesus, then you can tell me about some so called kundalini devil.
I can't believe the lack of discerning spirit's. I've experienced God's amazing love and peace every day for a long time and this is not the holy Spirit.
2 Timothy 4:1-4 “I solemnly charge you in the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who is to judge the living and the dead, and by His appearing and His kingdom: preach the word; be ready in season and out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort, with great patience and instruction. For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but wanting to have their ears tickled, they will accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance to their own desires, and will turn away their ears from the truth and will turn aside to myths."
1 Corinthians 12:3N 3 Therefore I want you to know that no one who is speaking by the Spirit of God says, “Jesus be cursed,” and no one can say, “Jesus is Lord,” except by the Holy Spirit.
It is evedent to me that you have "accumulate teachers according to your own desires." who tickle your ears, and have turned away from the Truth to follow the myths of men.
What she is talking about is NOT The HOLY SPIRIT...NOT THE GOD OF THE BIBLE....the wrong spirit...screaming and rolling or flipping is NOT the Holy SPirit
The more I watch and listen to Heidi Baker, the more I want to know God. If her teachings lead me to seek more of God, can she be satanic as some claim?
Ufuoma Lamikanra Yes, unfortunately! If us women do not start to read the Word of God properly, learning through real bible teachers, we are going to be lead by the spirit of jezebel in the church. And it's rife because male leadership has buckled under the fierce weight of it. This is not legalism, it's just "sound doctrine" we are told in scripture to be lead by it. We are warned over and over again in scripture about false teachers and doctrine. Yet the minute real pastors try to correct this, all those with twitching ears, put there hands over their ears and refuse even to search the Bible to see if this could be true. Please, please, it could mean your salvation, just stop and learn, from qualified teachers with REAL biblical qualifications. Not so called female pastors with bogus qualifications! This is too important to leave till you meet Jesus!
1 Corinthians 12:3 3 Therefore I want you to know that no one who is speaking by the Spirit of God says, “Jesus be cursed,” and no one can say, “Jesus is Lord,” except by the Holy Spirit.
bobby smith who tells u it's self control. Read clearly the Bible in Pentecost day others see and tells they have drunken . The difference between holy and other spirit is holy spirit touches you if u willing otherwise he will not but other spirits react in your body without permission your body and that spirit fights.
bobby smith who tells u it's self control. Read clearly the Bible in Pentecost day others see and tells they have drunken . The difference between holy and other spirit is holy spirit touches you if u willing otherwise he will not but other spirits react in your body without permission your body and that spirit fights.
You only have to look at Heidi’s eyes. The eyes are the soul. I see Jesus Christ in her eyes and all The Holy Spirits attributes just by her eyes. If people who are born of The Holy Spirit can’t see this then I pray the scales of deception are loosed from their eyes and the spirit of legalism and religion. Christ is love. Nothing but love and certainly not religion.
Um actually she said she wants to be "possessed by him" that's not right. That's not of God. Possession is Satan. This chick "got the spirit" that sounds like a demon to me. She might not realize it but she isn't a follower of God.
Lives in your rainbow tree notice how in the Bible the man who was possessed was already cutting himself and freaking out when Jesus touched him he healed him and he had a sober mind when these false prophets pray for people they will take a normal person who is not possessed and then you will see them freak out on the floor that is because they are actually putting a demon into them think about the order of things and think about how Jesus actually did it
I remember seeing Heidi Baker lay hands on a young man and he instantly starts screaming like he's in hell. According to Heidi Baker in this interview, that is the work of a demonic spirit
How do some people not understand this!? Probably cuz they haven't had a supernatural experience, like they should've had if they were baptised in the Holy Spirit.
She did not say anything wrong. If you think God does not posses anyone you are not fully reading the Word of God, you haven't thoroughly read your Bible.
Agreed but you can be possessed by God! it is the fulness of what He died for. He did not just die for the remission of sins but to have a house to dwell in! He prayed that We may be One in His Priestly prayer in John 17. He told Peter when you were young you did what you wanted but when you mature another will gird you and take you places you don't want to go, implying he Peter would not be in control but at this level be fully controlled by the Holy Spirit. This is exactly what happened to him he put off his tent just as the Lord showed him Peter died on a Cross upside down. He didn't want to do that... not his flesh, not that body He was in but it was fully Possessed, yielded to the Holy Spirit and that body was presented as a Living Sacrifice bringing God the Utmost Glory . The words of Jesus to Peter below John 21:18 New King James Version (NKJV) 18 Most assuredly, I say to you, when you were younger, you girded yourself and walked where you wished; but when you are old, you will stretch out your hands, and another will gird you and carry you where you do not wish.”
It's the use of words. In the west when someone says possessed I think of demon possession so I'd rather refer to it as being filled with the the Holy Spirit instead. Otherwise it gets confusing for me. That's what I mean, different choice of words.
I understand, this is true, however the devils very intent is to take every plan of God and to pervert it! So we don't enter in to the more He God Has because it looks to scary. The devil never wanted to be the devil he always wanted to be like God so his punishment was hellfire and to be the ugly devil. Think about this he was the Seal of Beauty Lucifer, that wasn't enough for him so he said I will ascend my Throne. I will be like the most high. This was his treason and his punishment revocation of his position and beauty, but he is still imitating light, he is still imitating God. The bible says him and his minister appear and transform as Angels of Light, in other words when I say perpetrate I mean Satan is still imitating God in order to rob God of His Glory, so the fact he can possess people is because he has some intel that it is something God can do, so Lucifer's intent in possessing someone is to make it so scary and demonic that any thought of it would drive a person way from the fullest height of the God experience. So much so when Jesus showed up on the scene the Religious leaders of the day when they saw His Fullness and Power said He was possessed with a devil. Why? because Jesus demonstrated Power, He was Possessed by God. He modeled for us a lifestyle that was a attainable through Him and His relationship with the Father. He said I can do nothing of myself but by My Father who sent Me. He said I do only what I see My Father do. His life was laid down before He went to the cross. Jesus The Christ of Nazareth who came in the likeness of Human flesh fully Revealed God. He is our First Fruit we have a destiny no less than His . This what the Devil is fighting so hard to stop, through perversion of Gods higher order and plan. He doesn't want the church, Gods Body to attain the Glory Realm, but that's where we are going in Jesus Name Amen!... Nonetheless my brother if that word offends you I wont use it to confuse you. Our Faith is rooted in Love and Understanding! Peace to you!
The things she describes seeing are the manifestation of demons NOT the Holy Spirit. Take heed to yourselves, that your heart be not deceived, and ye turn aside, and serve other gods, and worship them Deuteronomy 11:16
The Word of God is our standard, and there God says" let all things be done decently and in order"(1 Cor 14:40 )when referring to manifestations of the spirit. The difference between being filled with the spirit of God is that he never ever takes control over our free will , mind, or body. Only devil spirits want that kind of power over us. Our Father in heaven wants us to choose Him with our heart . Satan is the master counterfeiter, and has been deceiving well meaning Christians for thousands of years. This doesn't bring glory to God , anyone seeing this would be afraid to let God into their hearts. And this makes me sad as a christian who believes in the power of the Holy spirit and all its manifestations. "Be sober be vigilant because your adversary the devil walketh about seeking whom he may devour" 1 Pet 5:8~ The Bible must be our standard , God will never contradict himself.
Can somone honestly explain all this to Me? I have never witnessed anything like she is explaining in person? What is kudalini spirit? How can somone be filled with this spirit like that then go preach the gospel without fear if it’s evil and demonic? Wouldn’t that be a kingdom divided against itself? Why does the Bible say in acts they were are all drunk if they were speaking a known language that was understandable by others? I bartended for years before Christ, I know drunken giberash when I hear it and I know a known language/slurring of speech when I hear it as well and this seems to be neither? Because all were clearly heard speaking a known language? Could they have been saying they were drunk because they may have looked like it after the spirit touched them? But why and were doesn’t say in the Bible that you will roll around screaming? That seems very strange? Isn’t that what Jesus cast out of the boy that often through him into fire to kill him? I just can’t see God flying you around? None of the apostles or disciples do you ever read had this? Maybe that passage in acts? Need help understanding?
They are scared. Heidi's love and devotion is almost unmatched here in the Western world. She makes them uncomfortable. They would rather sit and stand quietly in their pews, keeping church status quo. Any time someone criticizes her I always tell them to go turn an African country's religion to Christianity like she did. We need to be careful not to blaspheme the Holy Spirit when it comes to criticizing manifestations.
You’re SO loved, David! Jesus loves u so much. And he wants to show u new dimensions of his love, glory and fire. Just search him and he‘ll reveal himself to you. ❤️❤️
@@aninarohr9205 HE did..on dec 7th 2014. HE opened my eyes to the wickedness of kenneth copeland. I pray HE opens your eyes to the wickedness of heidi baker and other lying signs and wonders heretics. 2 Thessalonians 2:9 KJV - Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
This is just gibberish. Manifestations, doing mission work in Africa, dancing, flipping and adopting orphans will not save you. Confess your sin and repent to God.
I'm from Africa. People from a Western background will never fully understand what she is speaking of. This woman is filled with holy love and when she speaks about full possession, she means being completely led/yielded to the Holy Spirit. Go into the dark places of Africa and live the life she lives. You will have a measure of understanding that doesn't come from just reading your bible and criticizing her from your guarded walls. I am a healthy skeptic and followed her and others like her. This is legit. Love compelling you to walk in the grace poured out to you.
Then why does she believe jesus died for our sins in hell. Believes in NAR. Holy spirit is not plural.
Your level of "I am only that is right", and "I do everything for my ego" is over 9000. You have same problem as people from bible, when Jesus healed man in Sabbath.
+ She is doing the gospel. And whot you do? Where is your love work, joy work, justice work, peace work?
Are you so blinded that you don't see love anymore, and that Jezus is love, and he want 1 thing from you - love?
And you must be possesed to not see her love. Realy Realy deeply possesed.
And if you think she is trying to win favor of men, then I am witness of whole new level of deep stupidity. Lern some basic psychology, that are used everyday life ;-). I don't ask you for more, just basic abilities to know whot haracter other person have.
// sory for bad english, your ability to judge is so broken, that I think it's fair to write it in this bad english.
+ how can you judge if you don't have basic abilities to judgne, go to shool!
I agree with you. I've seen those kind of demonic manifestations in South America and also among North American Indians, (Canada), but I have also seen the manifestations of the Holy Spirit she mentions, holy rollers, people literally flying in the air thrown by the Spirit. There's a huge difference between them both, and what a joy when those people touched by God stand on their feet again. Lives transformed, pure joy
Thank you so much for this. You are indeed blessed
Rhonda Jamison: Well, seeing that God is working through her, shows that she is preaching the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Well, she doing what the Bible tells us to do. She must believe Jesus for everything she does and gets. She demonstrates the Gospel and preaches that you are saved by grace. The Apostle Paul preached faith and grace; yet, he did a great deal of works, in fact when you preach the Gospel of Jesus Christ or go to church, or pray, you are doing WORKS. She is totally sold out to Jesus Christ. She obeys God for she does these things for the glory of the Father and the Son, who did his WORKS by the power of the Holy Spirit. Another gospel? No, she is demonstrating and proclaiming the same gospel Paul, Peter, and John preached. Her life and ministry is dedicated to pleasing GOD, not man; for if she were trying to please man, she would not be talking about how God has raised the dead, healed the sick, and met their needs. She would be cowing down to YOU.
If you were sola scriptura, you would be doing what I Cor 14:1 says. You seek to prophesy and speak in other tongues as "the Holy Spirit" gives you utterance. You would heal the sick and raise the dead.
A wonderful life lived, fully yielded and surrendered to God!!! More and more Lord...
Firs time when I heard Heidi I was crying through all her testimony and what she was telling about Jesus as Love. I experienced Love as never before . Jesus became more alive for me and I had that great desire in my heart experience Him more and more . Thank you dear sister Heidi .May my love towards our Lord will touch you too🙏💛❤️💜
I just watched another UA-cam channel critique this particular video and the things that this woman is saying about the Holy Spirit. One of the fruits of the spirit is self control another is gentleness. Not thrashing about and being flipped three or four rows. The Holy Spirit doesn't possess people. Neither does our Heavenly Father. I think it might be safe to say Heidi that whatever spirit you are experiencing that causes convulsing and flipping about is not actually The Holy Spirit. The characteristics that she is describing sound like those of the Kundalini spirit. I wholeheartedly pray that is not the case.
You will never understand until you have an own experience with the Holy Spirit. Some things can't be explain in words. The gospel is also consuming fire, is also power of the Holy Spirit, but that is a personal experience. The eternal life is knowing Jesus (by experience)
@@belengonzalez2419
If you'll read the majority of the comments for this video, you will see that I'm not alone in thinking this. The Word says to test every spirit. Watch Heidi lay hands on the boy @ Bethel Church...not the Holy Spirit.
"Master,” said John, “we saw someone driving out demons in your name and we tried to stop him, because he is not one of us.”
50 “Do not stop him,” Jesus said, “for whoever is not against you is for you.”
Luke 9:49-50
24 But when the Pharisees heard this, they said, “It is only by Beelzebul, the prince of demons, that this fellow drives out demons.”
25 Jesus knew their thoughts and said to them, “Every kingdom divided against itself will be ruined, and every city or household divided against itself will not stand. 26 If Satan drives out Satan, he is divided against himself. How then can his kingdom stand?
Mattew 12:24-26
Jesus and HIs followers didn’t do such a things what happens in Heidi Baker’s meetings.
Heidi Baker is fully yielded to God as we all should be.
Judy VandeZandschulp no she's not read what I just posted.
well; when I see her stagger around a church podium as if she just "slammed" a fifth of vodka, and then "pretend" to read from the Bible as she whispers doctrines of demons out to the crowd as though a "thus say'eth the Lord" moment is in play, I don't understand why evryone can't see this for what it is! there is a clip on UA-cam that clearly shows her impart a demon to a young man who immediately afterwards begins to "flail" around on the floor in uncontrollable torment (screaming, raging) - and you don't see that young man recover from it! - these are but just a few examples among many so I'm sorry, that's all of the "evidence" I need. She's not of God and does not know Jesus!
Wrong. She is decieved. And in any case, the Bible forbids women to teach
the best what God can do to us is rid ourselves from all the tidiness and religiousness and make us a vessel. To stop being in control of everything and let him take all the glory and leave you with nothing, even make a fool out of you looks weird from the outside but it is the greatest present to have to hide or hold back to him anymore. He is so good and nothing he does is to your harm.
Amen! I choose to be a resting place for God! A habitation!
God refresh you daily Heidi and give you long life to impact more people
Dear Eva:, I am not associated with Heidi but what she describes is a truly manifestation of the holy spirit , it is just the way He is, Heidi is not inventing anything. Have you ever tried it? I would really encourage you to do so..
1 John 4:1 “Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.”
Steven Kozar please read what I just posted. I agree with you. We need to pray!
Watch a bit from Daniel Colenda's experience. Pure GOSPEL preacher, salvation preacher, no nonsense. Very stable man. Hear what he has to say on the topic. (He is evangelist Reinhardt Bonnke's progeny, btw)
Btw he has led more people to the true Christ in one day than possibly you and me in a lifetime
Blows my mind how many people on this comment thread are saying praise Jesus when what she says is not biblical, the deception is real.
Praise Jesus! I love this women!
Beautiful lass, never forget the stolen soul.
Holy Spirit I love you!!!🔥🔥🔥🔥
Yes. I want to be fully possessed by Holy Spirit :D
And that experience was the Fire baptism.
Possess me Holy Spirit. Possess all of me! :D
The Holy Spirit doesn't possess, it fills. Demons possess.
Heidi Baker is a beautiful woman, blessed by God and fully filled with the Holy Spirit. She has been fortunate enough to witness the AMAZING power of our Mighty God, and she's right.. He can and will do whatever He wants. Possession is all-consuming, dominating, having an overpowering influence. That's exactly what I pray the Holy Spirit does to me!
I want more God , thank you 🙏
2 Thessalonians 2: 8-12 “Then that lawless one will be revealed whom the Lord will slay with the breath of His mouth and bring to an end by the appearance of His coming; that is, the one whose coming is in accord with the activity of Satan, with all power and signs and false wonders, and with all the deception of wickedness for those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth so as to be saved. For this reason God will send upon them a deluding influence so that they will believe what is false, in order that they all may be judged who did not believe the truth, but took pleasure in wickedness.”
1 Corinthians 12:3
3 Therefore I want you to know that no one who is speaking by the Spirit of God says, “Jesus be cursed,” and no one can say, “Jesus is Lord,” except by the Holy Spirit.
Laid hands on a boy at bethel church and the boy was writhing around the floor full of demons. Kundalini spirit.
Ugh. If the Body of Christ had any sense, which I doubt now, it would fast and pray and ask the Holy Spirit to right the wrongs, heal our leaders and set them free. The one's who really really love the Lord will get this. The one's who don't won't care. They are wolves in sheep's clothing or real wolves. What gets me is that God's people don't read the Bible enough or know how to study it enough to do anything about this. They just go along to get along even if this so called revival started out being directed by the Holy Spirit.
Why don't you think an evil spirit was leaving the boy?
What Heidi is teaching and does in her church is not biblical, what this man is saying is true. What Heidi teaches you won't find it in the bible, the bible teaches about self control and order. If you notice she says " a holy spirit" not the holy spirit, what spirit is she talking about, what's she does is demonic, it's unbiblical and you people should run.
I will never understand why religious people always go out of their way to equate the Holy Spirit with the devil. They did this to Jesus, they did this to Paul, and they do it today. I have known Heidi for nearly 20 years. She is far from perfect human being, but I can honestly say that the life she has lived is one of absolute surrender to Christ. The fruit of her and Rolland's ministry speaks for itself. Millions of people saved, miracles that reflect the Gospels and the Book of Acts, tens of thousands of churches planted, they feed 50,000 people a day, started schools for children, are currently building a university for the nation, they've taken in and cared for thousands of orphans ... and that's just the good works that flow from their ministry. Let's not forget that the marks suffering for Christ's sake are also on her body as she has been beaten for the Gospel, had stones thrown at her, had knives pulled on her, had a contract on her life, and many other persecutions. In it all, she continues to say yes to Jesus. When you go live as she has lived and bear the fruit of her life that continually points to Jesus, then you can tell me about some so called kundalini devil.
I can't believe the lack of discerning spirit's. I've experienced God's amazing love and peace every day for a long time and this is not the holy Spirit.
2 Timothy 4:1-4 “I solemnly charge you in the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who is to judge the living and the dead, and by His appearing and His kingdom: preach the word; be ready in season and out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort, with great patience and instruction. For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but wanting to have their ears tickled, they will accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance to their own desires, and will turn away their ears from the truth and will turn aside to myths."
1 Corinthians 12:3N
3 Therefore I want you to know that no one who is speaking by the Spirit of God says, “Jesus be cursed,” and no one can say, “Jesus is Lord,” except by the Holy Spirit.
It is evedent to me that you have "accumulate teachers according to your own desires." who tickle your ears, and have turned away from the Truth to follow the myths of men.
Is that why people only seem possessed after you pray for them, you are releasing the Kundalini spirit
What an awesome vessel she is.
What she is talking about is NOT The HOLY SPIRIT...NOT THE GOD OF THE BIBLE....the wrong spirit...screaming and rolling or flipping is NOT the Holy SPirit
Darkness has never comprehended light, and will never will. you have to be spirit field to discern a true spirit of God.
The more I watch and listen to Heidi Baker, the more I want to know God. If her teachings lead me to seek more of God, can she be satanic as some claim?
Ufuoma Lamikanra Yes, unfortunately! If us women do not start to read the Word of God properly, learning through real bible teachers, we are going to be lead by the spirit of jezebel in the church. And it's rife because male leadership has buckled under the fierce weight of it. This is not legalism, it's just "sound doctrine" we are told in scripture to be lead by it. We are warned over and over again in scripture about false teachers and doctrine. Yet the minute real pastors try to correct this, all those with twitching ears, put there hands over their ears and refuse even to search the Bible to see if this could be true. Please, please, it could mean your salvation, just stop and learn, from qualified teachers with REAL biblical qualifications. Not so called female pastors with bogus qualifications! This is too important to leave till you meet Jesus!
The Sprit of God is self control. Flipping all over the floor...or back flipping IS NOT the Spirit of God!,
1 Corinthians 12:3
3 Therefore I want you to know that no one who is speaking by the Spirit of God says, “Jesus be cursed,” and no one can say, “Jesus is Lord,” except by the Holy Spirit.
bobby smith who tells u it's self control. Read clearly the Bible in Pentecost day others see and tells they have drunken . The difference between holy and other spirit is holy spirit touches you if u willing otherwise he will not but other spirits react in your body without permission your body and that spirit fights.
bobby smith who tells u it's self control. Read clearly the Bible in Pentecost day others see and tells they have drunken . The difference between holy and other spirit is holy spirit touches you if u willing otherwise he will not but other spirits react in your body without permission your body and that spirit fights.
You only have to look at Heidi’s eyes. The eyes are the soul. I see Jesus Christ in her eyes and all The Holy Spirits attributes just by her eyes. If people who are born of The Holy Spirit can’t see this then I pray the scales of deception are loosed from their eyes and the spirit of legalism and religion. Christ is love. Nothing but love and certainly not religion.
Um actually she said she wants to be "possessed by him" that's not right. That's not of God. Possession is Satan. This chick "got the spirit" that sounds like a demon to me. She might not realize it but she isn't a follower of God.
Nope, she has a seductive spirit. Do not be deceived
Lives in your rainbow tree notice how in the Bible the man who was possessed was already cutting himself and freaking out when Jesus touched him he healed him and he had a sober mind when these false prophets pray for people they will take a normal person who is not possessed and then you will see them freak out on the floor that is because they are actually putting a demon into them think about the order of things and think about how Jesus actually did it
So a timid lady rolls on the ground and gets up with fresh courage to preach Jesus everywhere, and you dont like the rolling?
Amen
I remember seeing Heidi Baker lay hands on a young man and he instantly starts screaming like he's in hell. According to Heidi Baker in this interview, that is the work of a demonic spirit
Exactly - that’s what happened in the bible too.
How do some people not understand this!? Probably cuz they haven't had a supernatural experience, like they should've had if they were baptised in the Holy Spirit.
how to yield yourself to the holy spirit I not Under stand
She did not say anything wrong. If you think God does not posses anyone you are not fully reading the Word of God, you haven't thoroughly read your Bible.
We're not possessed (by demons) we are filled (with the fullness and power) of the Holy Spirit. She shouldn't use the word possessed.
Agreed but you can be possessed by God! it is the fulness of what He died for. He did not just die for the remission of sins but to have a house to dwell in! He prayed that We may be One in His Priestly prayer in John 17. He told Peter when you were young you did what you wanted but when you mature another will gird you and take you places you don't want to go, implying he Peter would not be in control but at this level be fully controlled by the Holy Spirit. This is exactly what happened to him he put off his tent just as the Lord showed him Peter died on a Cross upside down. He didn't want to do that... not his flesh, not that body He was in but it was fully Possessed, yielded to the Holy Spirit and that body was presented as a Living Sacrifice bringing God the Utmost Glory .
The words of Jesus to Peter below
John 21:18 New King James Version (NKJV)
18 Most assuredly, I say to you, when you were younger, you girded yourself and walked where you wished; but when you are old, you will stretch out your hands, and another will gird you and carry you where you do not wish.”
It's the use of words. In the west when someone says possessed I think of demon possession so I'd rather refer to it as being filled with the the Holy Spirit instead. Otherwise it gets confusing for me. That's what I mean, different choice of words.
I understand, this is true, however the devils very intent is to take every plan of God and to pervert it! So we don't enter in to the more He God Has because it looks to scary. The devil never wanted to be the devil he always wanted to be like God so his punishment was hellfire and to be the ugly devil. Think about this he was the Seal of Beauty Lucifer, that wasn't enough for him so he said I will ascend my Throne. I will be like the most high. This was his treason and his punishment revocation of his position and beauty, but he is still imitating light, he is still imitating God. The bible says him and his minister appear and transform as Angels of Light, in other words when I say perpetrate I mean Satan is still imitating God in order to rob God of His Glory, so the fact he can possess people is because he has some intel that it is something God can do, so Lucifer's intent in possessing someone is to make it so scary and demonic that any thought of it would drive a person way from the fullest height of the God experience. So much so when Jesus showed up on the scene the Religious leaders of the day when they saw His Fullness and Power said He was possessed with a devil. Why? because Jesus demonstrated Power, He was Possessed by God. He modeled for us a lifestyle that was a attainable through Him and His relationship with the Father. He said I can do nothing of myself but by My Father who sent Me. He said I do only what I see My Father do. His life was laid down before He went to the cross. Jesus The Christ of Nazareth who came in the likeness of Human flesh fully Revealed God. He is our First Fruit we have a destiny no less than His . This what the Devil is fighting so hard to stop, through perversion of Gods higher order and plan. He doesn't want the church, Gods Body to attain the Glory Realm, but that's where we are going in Jesus Name Amen!... Nonetheless my brother if that word offends you I wont use it to confuse you. Our Faith is rooted in Love and Understanding! Peace to you!
I truly hope Heide Baker gets saved.
The things she describes seeing are the manifestation of demons NOT the Holy Spirit. Take heed to yourselves, that your heart be not deceived, and ye turn aside, and serve other gods, and worship them Deuteronomy 11:16
The Word of God is our standard, and there God says" let all things be done decently and in order"(1 Cor 14:40 )when referring to manifestations of the spirit. The difference between being filled with the spirit of God is that he never ever takes control over our free will , mind, or body. Only devil spirits want that kind of power over us. Our Father in heaven wants us to choose Him with our heart . Satan is the master counterfeiter, and has been deceiving well meaning Christians for thousands of years. This doesn't bring glory to God , anyone seeing this would be afraid to let God into their hearts. And this makes me sad as a christian who believes in the power of the Holy spirit and all its manifestations. "Be sober be vigilant because your adversary the devil walketh about seeking whom he may devour" 1 Pet 5:8~ The Bible must be our standard , God will never contradict himself.
Love thissss. I want Holy Spirit!!!!
was wrong with wanting full possession of God. lets not take that word out of context.
why would God do that to people ~ the bible says something VERY different of God's Holy Spirit.
On Pentecost when Jesus poured out His Spirit and the believers people thought they were drunk. Why was that?
x cool
Can somone honestly explain all this to
Me? I have never witnessed anything like she is explaining in person? What is kudalini spirit? How can somone be filled with this spirit like that then go preach the gospel without fear if it’s evil and demonic? Wouldn’t that be a kingdom divided against itself? Why does the Bible say in acts they were are all drunk if they were speaking a known language that was understandable by others? I bartended for years before Christ, I know drunken giberash when I hear it and I know a known language/slurring of speech when I hear it as well and this seems to be neither? Because all were clearly heard speaking a known language? Could they have been saying they were drunk because they may have looked like it after the spirit touched them? But why and were doesn’t say in the Bible that you will roll around screaming? That seems very strange? Isn’t that what Jesus cast out of the boy that often through him into fire to kill him? I just can’t see God flying you around? None of the apostles or disciples do you ever read had this? Maybe that passage in acts? Need help understanding?
Christopher Marth Me too. I need an explanation
They are scared. Heidi's love and devotion is almost unmatched here in the Western world. She makes them uncomfortable. They would rather sit and stand quietly in their pews, keeping church status quo. Any time someone criticizes her I always tell them to go turn an African country's religion to Christianity like she did. We need to be careful not to blaspheme the Holy Spirit when it comes to criticizing manifestations.
I Cor. 14:1 is your key. Do what Paul said in that verse.
The kundilini spirit is not real. What she is experiencing and worshipping is God in Holy Spirit
Go preach the Gospel and heal the sick and let the Holy Spirit use you in all nine gifts of the Holy Spirit!
lol there are some religious spirits on here...GET OUT in Jesus name
Wow, this explains nothing.
gloooorrryyyyy haleluyyyyaahhh
Heidi Baker did.
Wicked.
You’re SO loved, David! Jesus loves u so much. And he wants to show u new dimensions of his love, glory and fire. Just search him and he‘ll reveal himself to you. ❤️❤️
@@aninarohr9205 HE did..on dec 7th 2014. HE opened my eyes to the wickedness of kenneth copeland. I pray HE opens your eyes to the wickedness of heidi baker and other lying signs and wonders heretics. 2 Thessalonians 2:9 KJV - Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
@@aninarohr9205 i have a question for you. After you sin... How do you cleanse yourself from thar sin?
This is just gibberish. Manifestations, doing mission work in Africa, dancing, flipping and adopting orphans will not save you. Confess your sin and repent to God.