@@GopherBaroque61 I believe Robert Saleh was hired by the 49ers as a linebacker coach from Jaguars without a DC experience. IMO, they are 2 for 2 finding those diamonds in the rough.
@@craneyoung6037 Not just amnesia. Many fans were saying "Fire Saleh" early on. Some of those same fans probably also said "Fire Meco" early on. Some fans just don't get it.
Wilks dismissal had nothing to do with the Super Bowl. He lost track of the need to stop the run. Where he lost it was having Fred covering the deep post rather than plugging the A gap. He should have been functionally demoted when they brought him down from the booth. The new combo approach was just what I suggested two weeks ago. Unfortunately I was envisioning Bellichek which it turns out wasn’t in the cards. Still giving Sorensen an experienced mentor could have real benefits, and allow Staley to reestablish himself.
@@megilacuttyjones735 I wouldn't say VERY good but, he's no chump either. I envision Staley being used to breakdown opposition, and identify areas to exploit. Sorenson working principally with the assistants, and setting up depth-charts, then working with Staley to develop the weekly game-plan.
Staley will be a great asset for Sorensen coming up with game plans against our opponents, he is very good at identifying offensive vulnerabilities and how to exploit them. He's also very good at maximizing individual players unique talents, how to use players in position to maximize their skill sets, instead of what WILKS did with our LB's for example.
Awesome. I think this can be good. Kyle promotes great within. Stayley was very good as a dc and now has some HC experience (although he failed with that) . I think itll be fine.
I remember when John Lynch was originally a backup quarterback at Stanford his first two years before switching to safety. So, understanding offensive concepts helps.
Im not sure it works. The 49ers need somebody like Ryans and Saleh were. The 49er players feed off their emotional side, its more than just great play calling and talent. Ulbrich would of been the perfect fit but Hopefully Sorensen can bring that same type of energy that Ryans and Saleh had
All Nick really needs to do is return to with the fundamentals of Robert and Meco of stopping the run first, getting pressure with the rush and marrying coverage to it. Now that we have a good QB, that would have been enough to win the past two Super Bowls we were in. Staley can help with scheme and also help teach Nick how to DC.
Nick Sorensen the new DC and Brandon Staley the new Ast. Head Coach or Defensive specialist. Could be the start of a beautiful relationship. Forward to 59 SB...
I think this is brilliant. Did you really think that we were going to land Bill B. I don’t think the Niners were ever serious about hiring him. I think this was staged or the rumors were purposely circulated to keep the fan base from freaking out. What a circus he would have been. It was tough enough going through last year with all the Brock BS.
The learning curve is going to extreme for sorensen as we go through the AFC gauntlet the 2024 season. I cant see through his resume how he is magically going to “correct” the defense and still scheme/stop the run/ lead with the LBs when has no experience. I foresee staley calling plays half way through the season
All Nick really needs to do is start with the fundamentals of Robert and Meco of stopping the run first, getting pressure with the rush and marrying coverage to it.
A lot of folks think Niners Def needs a hype man on sideline as DC who jumps around and pumps fists in the air after a big play. They don’t need that. They just needs someone who understands the scheme and player strengths. Back to basics.
imagine the phone call: "Hey Joey, this is Nick" "Yeah man what's up?" "They just hired that Staley clown"...."Nick, I'm gonna be straight with you, there's only one way to put this. YOU-ARE-F*CKED!" My chances of getting a ring just passed up your chance of getting one".
@@wowreally594I agree he failed as a Head Coach, but was very successful as the Rams DC. His new roll is neither HC or DC. Staley is an assistant coach. If the players have issues with him they go right over his head to the DC or Kyle. We obviously disagree. I’ll bet a beer or three that he is a good in the assistant role. Also- Add KJ Wright to the crew, awesome!
Staley not working out as head coach, is no different than when teh following who were head coaches: Schwartz, Fassel, Fangio, Bradley, Morris, and Flores. Staley had a reputation as being prickly, nobody is more prickly than Shanny, I'm confident Staley's ego will not get too far.
It's cheaper because 49ers just have to play out his existing contract with sorenson and don't have to pay up front money. And if he works out then it benefits nick because he can ask his price. This leaves cap space initially for 2024 season
A sideline coach hired to run a sb defense, for a team still in a sb window, got it👍. Complete regime failure…. Kyle will never win a sb as head offensive coordinator
So, Staley is supposed to be the defensive Yoda to Sorensen’s Skywalker? Sorensen doesn’t have any defensive play calling experience, so ‘9ers are trying to win a SB with a rookie DC. His weekly turnover presentations make him sound like a highlight reel guy, not a play-by-play in the moment DC. His QB/DB/special teams experience isn’t going to help stop the run, may not even help rush the passer. Staley’s cloud coverage schemes aren’t going to help stop the run or rush the passer. Sounds like another Wilks 2.0 year with good coverage, coverage sacks, soft zone, not much pressure, weak against the run. Dave Merritt would’ve been better. I know he doesn’t have much respect for Kyle since he’s a Chiefs’ defensive coach, but he has 5 SB rings, played pro as a LB, they run a 4-3, has inside intel on how the Chiefs were stopping the ‘9ers offense, and on how to stop Mahomes. He also learned under Spags so he could’ve brought some disguised blitzes against the run and pass. They’re professionals, I think Merritt could’ve worked with Kyle. Hope the players can make up for the deficiencies in the coaching staff.
@@zfreek46exactly…people always want a big name, then jump ship once the defense performs at a high level. Saleh and DR were not big names and did just fine.
Yeah so mad we have gotten to the SB two years and in the playoffs about every year since he has been here. Yeah we need to get rid of that guy. SHESH.
Demico Ryans did not have a DC experience and he did okay. The amnesia of people that just want to make a negative point.
Good observation. At some point, EVERY Defensive Coordinator did not have any DC experience... until they did after they became one.
@@GopherBaroque61 I believe Robert Saleh was hired by the 49ers as a linebacker coach from Jaguars without a DC experience. IMO, they are 2 for 2 finding those diamonds in the rough.
@@craneyoung6037great point… I’d even argue that he did well with the Wilks hire too!
@@craneyoung6037 Not just amnesia. Many fans were saying "Fire Saleh" early on. Some of those same fans probably also said "Fire Meco" early on. Some fans just don't get it.
I would argue that he did more than okay
Wilks dismissal had nothing to do with the Super Bowl. He lost track of the need to stop the run. Where he lost it was having Fred covering the deep post rather than plugging the A gap. He should have been functionally demoted when they brought him down from the booth. The new combo approach was just what I suggested two weeks ago. Unfortunately I was envisioning Bellichek which it turns out wasn’t in the cards. Still giving Sorensen an experienced mentor could have real benefits, and allow Staley to reestablish himself.
Bellicheck has been a HC for so long with immense success he'll nvr be a coordinator again
I remember when the Demeco hire was announced, a lot of people doubted Kyle.
Let’s see what happens first.
People want a big name hire…nah give me a guy who hungry for it 😤
Yea he looks hungry alright 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣damn luckily we can score 40 or more points a game cause our defense going to alot 30 a game
he’ll be just fine he knows what’s going on
Staley is the safety net. If Sorensen falls apart, Staley is stepping in.
Holy shit. Staley as a “safety net” is CRAZY
Stayley was a very good DC before becoming a bad HC
@@megilacuttyjones735 I wouldn't say VERY good but, he's no chump either. I envision Staley being used to breakdown opposition, and identify areas to exploit. Sorenson working principally with the assistants, and setting up depth-charts, then working with Staley to develop the weekly game-plan.
Staley will be a great asset for Sorensen coming up with game plans against our opponents, he is very good at identifying offensive vulnerabilities and how to exploit them. He's also very good at maximizing individual players unique talents, how to use players in position to maximize their skill sets, instead of what WILKS did with our LB's for example.
Maybe Wilks forgot that the main job of linebackers is to back up the line?
0-rush but, the DB's were playing 7-8 yds back...crazy
@@corsair6yeah the soft coverage is what really drove me crazy last year
Awesome. I think this can be good.
Kyle promotes great within. Stayley was very good as a dc and now has some HC experience (although he failed with that) . I think itll be fine.
This move is genius.. Two minds are better than one..
More people to blame to 😂
Dumb
@@TheWatcher818 reasoning why?
@cesarmeza5331 Blame for victory.. You have a loser mindset..
Only positive was being db coach for seattle's legion of boom secondary. Just hope our run D doesn't fall apart.
I remember when John Lynch was originally a backup quarterback at Stanford his first two years before switching to safety. So, understanding offensive concepts helps.
He was Vick’s predecessor? That’s quite the Lombardi nugget.
Im not sure it works. The 49ers need somebody like Ryans and Saleh were. The 49er players feed off their emotional side, its more than just great play calling and talent. Ulbrich would of been the perfect fit but Hopefully Sorensen can bring that same type of energy that Ryans and Saleh had
The players love Sorenson “The Ball Father” He’s one of them not an outsider like Wilks.
All Nick really needs to do is return to with the fundamentals of Robert and Meco of stopping the run first, getting pressure with the rush and marrying coverage to it. Now that we have a good QB, that would have been enough to win the past two Super Bowls we were in.
Staley can help with scheme and also help teach Nick how to DC.
hes going to be just fine.some just want to be negative.
Im VERY glad that we hired from within
It’s funny how many know it all fans are ,when in reality the don’t have a clue when it comes to professional decisions they can’t fathom
My guess is John and Kyle knew they’d be promoting Sorenson to DC for a few weeks now, but we’re waiting to finalize Staley as an assistant
David, on Brock Purdy, is there stat on %batted passes? Seemed less frequent in 2023 than 2022.
Yeah I noticed that too!! But his only what 6 ft...dew bress was only 6foot as well and had alot of batted passes....
Just gotta have faith Bang Bang Niner Gang
Will get any picks in the draft likemichael Harrison? Or one wr maybe rices son will we be able to pick up one of these stars?
Nick Sorensen the new DC and Brandon Staley the new Ast. Head Coach or Defensive specialist. Could be the start of a beautiful relationship. Forward to 59 SB...
Lets not kid ourselves.. Staley was brought in as a "safety valve" in case Sorensen falters.
I think this is brilliant. Did you really think that we were going to land Bill B. I don’t think the Niners were ever serious about hiring him. I think this was staged or the rumors were purposely circulated to keep the fan base from freaking out. What a circus he would have been. It was tough enough going through last year with all the Brock BS.
I bet Staley will be pass game specialist to go along with Assistant HC
They went nuanced-duo probably because they couldn't find a good all-in-one.
So he’s a Frank Beamer guy?
The learning curve is going to extreme for sorensen as we go through the AFC gauntlet the 2024 season. I cant see through his resume how he is magically going to “correct” the defense and still scheme/stop the run/ lead with the LBs when has no experience. I foresee staley calling plays half way through the season
All Nick really needs to do is start with the fundamentals of Robert and Meco of stopping the run first, getting pressure with the rush and marrying coverage to it.
Outside the box thinking… Let’s hope it works out
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A lot of folks think Niners Def needs a hype man on sideline as DC who jumps around and pumps fists in the air after a big play. They don’t need that. They just needs someone who understands the scheme and player strengths. Back to basics.
I liked Robert Saleh jumping up and down. And that seemed to inspire the players. Not the only way to do the job, but it worked for him and the 49ers.
Niners fans supporting a hiring decision challenge (impossible)
Sorensen had nothing to do with the legion of boom. He was 17-20 not early teens
could it be they call him the ball father because he is always touching himself!!?
Still don't trust the head coach.....
This guy thinks it’s raining when somebody pisses on his shoes
imagine the phone call: "Hey Joey, this is Nick" "Yeah man what's up?" "They just hired that Staley clown"...."Nick, I'm gonna be straight with you, there's only one way to put this. YOU-ARE-F*CKED!" My chances of getting a ring just passed up your chance of getting one".
Hello- He’s not the DC.
or could be that you are delusional.while trying to act like you know something that we dont?
@@kevinmosher6027 doesnt matter, did you not take notice the ENTIRE Chargers team gave up on him. You will see...you will see.
@@wowreally594I agree he failed as a Head Coach, but was very successful as the Rams DC. His new roll is neither HC or DC. Staley is an assistant coach. If the players have issues with him they go right over his head to the DC or Kyle. We obviously disagree. I’ll bet a beer or three that he is a good in the assistant role. Also-
Add KJ Wright to the crew, awesome!
ST was a disaster last year, do not forget this. Stely destroyed the Charges. It seems to me that only God can save the 49ers, we need a miracle.
Staley not working out as head coach, is no different than when teh following who were head coaches: Schwartz, Fassel, Fangio, Bradley, Morris, and Flores. Staley had a reputation as being prickly, nobody is more prickly than Shanny, I'm confident Staley's ego will not get too far.
It's cheaper because 49ers just have to play out his existing contract with sorenson and don't have to pay up front money. And if he works out then it benefits nick because he can ask his price. This leaves cap space initially for 2024 season
All our defence want is a guy who they will jump in fire with like ryans saleh
A sideline coach hired to run a sb defense, for a team still in a sb window, got it👍. Complete regime failure…. Kyle will never win a sb as head offensive coordinator
😂😂😂
Doesn’t matter who this guy is. He was only hired because if they made the other loser they hired DC, the fans would revolt
So, Staley is supposed to be the defensive Yoda to Sorensen’s Skywalker? Sorensen doesn’t have any defensive play calling experience, so ‘9ers are trying to win a SB with a rookie DC. His weekly turnover presentations make him sound like a highlight reel guy, not a play-by-play in the moment DC. His QB/DB/special teams experience isn’t going to help stop the run, may not even help rush the passer. Staley’s cloud coverage schemes aren’t going to help stop the run or rush the passer. Sounds like another Wilks 2.0 year with good coverage, coverage sacks, soft zone, not much pressure, weak against the run. Dave Merritt would’ve been better. I know he doesn’t have much respect for Kyle since he’s a Chiefs’ defensive coach, but he has 5 SB rings, played pro as a LB, they run a 4-3, has inside intel on how the Chiefs were stopping the ‘9ers offense, and on how to stop Mahomes. He also learned under Spags so he could’ve brought some disguised blitzes against the run and pass. They’re professionals, I think Merritt could’ve worked with Kyle. Hope the players can make up for the deficiencies in the coaching staff.
you should apply to the Niners front office.
What a disappointment
go rep another team then...
@@zfreek46exactly…people always want a big name, then jump ship once the defense performs at a high level. Saleh and DR were not big names and did just fine.
Guess what Lombardi, none of this matters. You know why? Shanahan is still our HC.
Go be a raiders fan they have a new and inspiring head coach over there..👉
Thank God!! ❤
The amount of 9er fans that have lost the plot in regards to Shanahan is truly hilarious.
Yeah so mad we have gotten to the SB two years and in the playoffs about every year since he has been here. Yeah we need to get rid of that guy. SHESH.
They are all grant cohn subscribers
We got screwed on this one....not gonna see the sb for sure now.
Based on what? Under Shanahan they've been fine with 1st time DC's.