Francis Ngannou was a host on the JRE MMA Show #146 with Joe Rogan and he shared some details about his time with the UFC! #Ngannou #JRE #JoeRogan #joeroganexperience
I think they do it differently with every fighter and Joe is just letting Francis explain it so Joe isn't in trouble with the UFC for saying it himself.
Truth is Francis was a money hungry egomaniac. His coaches said this and ufc staff said the same. Ufc offered him 8 mill to fight Jon. But Francis wanted more money. He also said he wanted health care for fighters and doing this for morals not money. Turns out he didn’t care about health care and signed for money 😂😂😂
you have the comprehensions kills of a middle schooler, this is actually concerning. This sport is way to volent for your a kid your age anyway, stop watching it for now until you grow up
I'm gonna say something EXTREMELY controversial and provocative. But that's because he's a real African. Africans from my experience are either highly educated and hard working, or super motivated and most of them are very gentle. They have a beautiful beautiful culture. Sad I can't say the same for American black folks. Look at Jon Jones. I rest my case.
Never deserved the hate he got for leaving UFC. Dana was saving face by acting as if Ngannou was scared to fight Jones. In reality Francis was done with Dana playing games. He knew he deserved more and knew the UFC wasn’t going to give him that. He proved to us that the UFC lies a lot and are dishonest.
This is a man that stands on his principles. Coming from nothing he knows he is a good man and works hard. He knows his worth and will work hard for whoever pays him. Dana is out of touch
This fool got an opportunity of a lifetime by Dana and then starts acting likes he’s the greatest thing for the ufc while not wanting to take fights. Stop it with the hypocrisy.
@@awesome1ru he isn’t but everyone knows how ufc treats the fighter. Just look at the Mighty Mouse situation. Joe works for ufc so he definitely knows how corrupt the ufc is since he works under the same boss. Francis and Joe had the same boss and worked for the same company. And Joe is acting clueless.
It’s crazy this soft spoken, genuinely nice guy is still arguably the baddest man on the planet. Still legitimately bummed we’ll never see the Jon jones fight. One of the biggest what ifs in combat sports history.
well that's why he ain't ever gonna get paid the big bucks. because he is a genuine nice guy. that shit ain't entertaining so you ain't making the big bucks. he needs to be more brutal and promote himself better.
a giant feels less fear than a small man, that usually makes small men more agressive and bigger man less agressive, also big and small dicks have an impact, it's all very instinctive wired into our DNA
Well ya that because he stole the money and didn't ever pay it back . Ask Ciryl Games trainer and Francis trainer who put up few cos for years free and he stole and never paid him back .
@@humanactivated1017agree, ask him why where are all the people who help you get to where he’s at ? 🤔 tired of hearing about this guy as a victim, he has burned many more to get to where he’s at today, and if it wasn’t fir the UFC you would even know who this guy is. What a loser
@@angeldaroseli3031 Fighting the best in the world and getting paid well under a mil a fight. Compared to boxing that is actual chump change. The UFC is in a Lawsuit against 1,200 fighters for underpaying and neglecting them. Isn't new news
I hope this man shocks the world for a number of reasons. This man suffered to be where he is at this moment of his life. I wish him nothing but abundance of wealth and good health.
He won’t shock anybody if u talk about boxing. There is levels between someone who’s been doing it for whole life and someone who’s started at 20+ (and to top it off we talking about the elites of elites - heavyweight boxing fucking champion of the world)
@@tatianab8406 tyson should step in the mma cage if he wants to shock the world.....for francis just being in the boxing ring is a shock and awesomeness
Do well? HE STILL Hasn't had a fight? now he's entering a sport to cash a bag? He really has a small chance of winning.. He had the chance to be the greatest UFC heavyweight ever & now he will be known as the former MMA champ who tried to switch to boxing? (I don't wanna talk smack saying he will loose, but no man born from a mother cunt can beat Tyson Fury, IF Wilder couldn't get it done? WHAT realsistic chance does this guy have? He is a VERY VERY inexperienced version of wilder.. Wilder caught him once, in the 12th? & it wasn't enough.. in 3 fights. We all know he's not OUT BOXING Tyson, he has to knock him out or he looses, wilder 'COULD' have won on points even, because he's a boxer )
@@f.miller801is a “brother” a black person? I honestly hope not. Because that’s some of the mustiest things the system has done to black people. Calling each other “brother” thinking that the rest of the races are not also human. Pathetic segregation and blacks, or most pressed races, are easiest to fall victim to this system. Again, I’m hoping that the “brother” meant another fellow humans being.
It's disgusting how only certain high-ranking fighters get the big multi-million dollar paydays. Francis was the champion and should be realistically set up financially. Dana is a vile human being
Indeed but that's the fight business. UFC reported on several occasions that WWE influenced them too and that's also entertaining business. Francis was just not that interesting nor he knew how to promote himself.
And you’re delusional. Dana isn’t “vile” you’re literally just sensitive and delusional about the topic 🤦🏻♂️ criminals who hurt people physically are “vile”. Government politicians who rob your society of trillions are “vile”. There is no UFC without Dana White. The whole of MMA would have fizzled out into dysfunctional weak organizations like the PFL and Bellator. It would have collapsed in on itself. And the PFL basically only exists thanks to the hype the UFC has created for MMA with Dana White at the helm. I like Francis, but he is Awful at promoting himself and does ZERO WORK to promote anything. He goes on a few podcasts. But that’s literally just 2 hours out of ONE day of the year 🤨 that’s hardly doing real promotional work period. The guy expected the UFC to do all the work when he gave them not a single thing to promote him about. Just being a good fighter isn’t enough to compel a wider audience to watch and pay 60-70 bucks for a PPV. You need to create a connection and present yourself so that the audience can make that connection.
Its not about fighting - its entertainment. You want to make money you have to sell the fight. That means high social media reach and generating interest promoting the fight. Its business and so many fighters are not business men - they assume a child to parent relationship
The ufc would be nothing without its fighters. Absolute disgrace and I can’t wait to see the other promotions overtake them in terms of prestige and exposure
Powerful how he said he can live out of nothing, weather he is rich or poor he is not bothered. Tells you alot about what type of a person he is, not so many people can be comfortable with whatever , that now is character 💪🏿 💯
As a Cameroonian like Francis now based in the US, trust me, credit cards are our kryptonite, We were raised that "Debt is Trouble" ONLY in America I see people being proud of having 50k credit limit 🤣
Same here, however it's entirely encouraged. When a lot of the economy is based around market housing prices...and you won't realistically be able to buy a home without good credit rating. And how do you get a good credit rating ? By going in debt 😂😂 It's so damn predatory
I had one credit card in my life. I'm a 40 year old Canadian of British ancestry. The credit card I got when I was 20. Didn't pay attention to what I was spending. My limit was $1000. I called and asked for my limit to be raised to $1500. They said no. Then afterward, without my permission they raised my limit to $6000 and I racked up debt without realizing it because I made a mistake and didn't pay attention to what I was spending vs what I was paying off. My mistake. But that company knew what they were doing by raising the limit without telling me. Once I paid it off I swore to never have a credit card again. And I never have. Credit cards are soft slavery. Now I buy everything other than my house and car with cash. If I don't have the cash, I don't get the thing I want. If I haven't earned it then I shouldn't get it, that's life. I'm with you, brother. Credit cards are a blight on humanity.
If you don’t stand for something you’ll fall for anything is probably my favorite quote of all time. Also joe knows way more about Dana then we could ever dream of knowing. I’m sure there’s more reasoning behind joe saying he leaves when Dana leaves in his contract other than friendship.
yeah but 99,99% of the 1st world don't actually stand for anything. most people are just sheeple that follow the heard and do what ever is the most trendy and popular.
@@jrjl89you’re a casual you’re genuinely a straight up casual if you say that 😂😂 and i don’t call people casuals but you know literally nothing, be quiet
@@GelusssI don't think his point has anything to do with how much you watch. He stated an objective fact that FN makes less than JJ or CM because he draws less eyes by not talking crap or stirring controversy. You could never have watched a single fight and know this to be true on the numbers alone.
Nothing but props to this Cameronian bro this man Francis is genuinely a good man . The guy did the hardest work to get where he is and don't take shit for granted. Stay humble Francis the payday your gonna get for Tyson fight you deserve every dime brother good job Francis.
Slowing down the contact process when you know fighters are tight for money and you don’t want them to renegotiate is dirty, that’s not honouring the deal already made , backing them into a corner and limiting their options.
@mtmta2009 lol no one thinks the UFC should not pull a profit but they earn a profit on the fighters backs so the lions share should go to the fighters after overhead is removed and currently unless your named Mcgregor that does not happen so much and the Dana White privelage is real if he arbitrarily doesnt like you then you get treated like might mouse maybe the greatest of all time where he had to go public to even get his championship belts from the UFC let alone fair pay or Ngannu or your can be Colby covington who he likes not fight in forever beat no one of import for years and be walking into a title shot. the company for sure bullies fighters.
@mtmta2009 that's why most businesses have giant class action lawsuits out against them by their employees for unfairly suppressing wages? Or is that something that just specifically has to happen here and that's why it's fine? 🤔
@@dillonoickle5841overhead only? Do you not know how a business works? Especially this one? How does it preform so well? Because they invest in the business.. that is why they are so big now. They don’t just collect and pay out after their net to fighters, they invest which keeps things new and eyes coming fight after fight… fighter pay is stupid.. look at the top guys they are grateful and monetize their position
Dana White is a JOKE..... The way he gives his "personal favorites" (Lesnar) the keys to the store while holding back LEGITIMATE fighters is almost criminal.
Rich & successful and responsible for growing the sport far beyond anyone else, and giving us the best and biggest promotion with the best fighters. I wish i was "a joke".
@@mohammodmashud6747 Colby can hang with his division without PEDs. Internet hate for Dana is real. He is not in charge of all the business negotiations. Sometimes people can't meet half way. I can name plenty of filthy rich UFC fighters. I think fighter pay has gone up a lot but still needs a bidenflation boost. Bump the bonuses up to 75k, and raise the level of base bay a bit. They can afford to now.
Of course Joe knows how it works, still I think Joe has the right approach to letting Francis clarify himself so people can judge themselves and at the same time not criticize the company he works for
Wow man... the "borrowing money for training camp" thing is really sad and infuriating. Moreover the fact that it was stated by a huge UFC star, HW champion and the world record strongest/hardest punch holder. All those accolades and still underpaid....
@@Jim_is_Burningtbh it's not about understanding it, and i like Francis fights but the dude hit these dead bodies so hard, yeah technically you continue the fight until the referee stop it, but when the guy is clearly out what's the point of hammering him so hard, i feel it's just Francis enjoying it 😂
so what he is saying is accurate to the podcast? The first 2 mins looked edited asf. His eyes position and arms position change dramatically word by word of his dialogue.
One thing people , mostly Americans don’t understand is that especially people of African descent are very intelligent. They know how to conduct business and won’t let ppl get over on them
Most of the UFC’s roster grew up white trash conservative, so they’re never going to unionize. Because it’s better to be a spineless kiss-ass carrying water for the elites than being a gay commie or whatever.
@@DGillian6406 I’d say he learned how to manage nothing living in a third world country pretty well. Taxes and training camp fees alone eat up over 60 percent of a fight purse. A guy that’s HW champ should not be having to take what’s the equivalent of a payday advance
The UFC tried to put him in a financial position where most fighters would accept a new deal.sadly for them as Francis explained he had known destitution/poverty before.
he did what he planned, even though everyone said he was crazy, got to respect this man,they tried to play him down, but he came from nothing, he knows how to make nothing into something
Both sides get to negotiate. Both sides have their own interests and risks in mind and those interests/risks are met and mitigated thru contract. Either side can say no. Nobody has to sign.... fighters aren't slaves. They aren't forced at gunpoint to sign a contract.
@@andysommerlot5123such a tired argument. Of course “no one is forced to sign,” literally no one is claiming they are. The problem is ufc exploiting its leverage as the top promotion to control fighters, give them the bare minimum, keep all the profit for a few executives, and discard the fighters when they’re no longer useful. What Francis described here is a perfect example of that exploitation.
@@andysommerlot5123 it’s not a balanced negotiation, it’s essentially coercion of the fighters into suboptimal terms. These fighters (excluding the highest-paid 1-2%) barely make enough to sustain themselves, let alone paying all their coaches and trainers and for travel and medical costs etc. It’s just classic capitalist power dynamics, and it’s especially bullshit because we can see the revenue that the UFC makes compared to leagues like NFL and NBA, and the huge discrepancy between their profit and the percentage of earnings paid out to their athletes. Dana and the corporate heads at Endeavor are just greedy and selfish, simple as that.
Its a business. A successful business takes more than it gives. There wouldnt even be a UFC with all the best fighters if they didnt operate as such. Noone holds a gun to a fighters head to sign a contract.
@@4ev3rmorechael sonnen puts it perfectly, there are more than 400 fighters in the roster and of the more than 400 fighters less than five fighters bring in profit and the rest are losses and honestly speaking i get that
I wonder how Dana feels about Joe giving Francis his platform. He’s also asking leading questions about the UFC. He definitely gonna be salty if he sees it
Dana needs Joe way more than Joe needs Dana at this point. Joe has openly spoken about how he’s seriously debated leaving the UFC because he just doesn’t have much time for it anymore. That’s why Joe only commentates on fights in the US, just doesn’t have the time to travel around the world for events now.
Joe Rogan knows exactly what’s happening he’s trying to act like he has no idea. Bro, you’ve been in the UFC for years. Do you know how these contracts work?
Question... Do you sheep in comments ever think for yourself?😂 He made $300k + $50k bonus vs Overeem & paid $500k for *LOSING to Stipe & that doesn't meaning he made just under $1mil in 3 months so if he was "broke" then that's not Dana or UFC fault its HIS!!!
his story kind of all over the place some, on the extensions. he is a cool dude. he just needs better people to read his contracts, he will do good in boxing
That’s why it’s a lawsuit, do you think your lawyer can come remotely close to the UFC’s lawyers? Stop that “just read the contract,” UFC has unlimited resources & will drown you out. They already tried to form a union. You see Dana put a stop to that years ago.
Same with this video, it’s a band wagon jump. Francis lied here and everyone seems to have forgotten that he was injured that’s why he didn’t fight for a whole year! He had knee surgery, that’s what he said held up his fights. His stock dropped and his stock would drop some more next month in Riyadh. How many of you even know when PFL fights? Jokers
@@andysommerlot5123 compared to boxing he pays ufc fighters nothing, look at the NBA or the NFL or MLB, UFC fighters are underpaid because of the structure of the organization aka Dana. Rob can mean badly treated, you want to argue semantics...
@@andysommerlot5123 I'm saying stars in those leagues are making upwards of 50 million a year or more even the average players get 10 million or more. The ufc could pay it's stars much more and the average fighters more and it wouldn't stop the ufc from promoting fights or making plenty of money. Now let's look at what ufc fighters make per year vs the leagues I mentioned. It's not even close. So yes they are being robbed unless you are McGregor and even he has said as much. Why do you think they are all going to boxing (more money less risk)? The difference is UFC fighters are putting their minds, bodies, and in some cases their lives at risk in the octagon for pennies on the dollar.
@saynotothegreatreset lol this started with his 1st contract. That he signed got some movie appearances(thanks ufc) then thought he deserved more thanbhe was bringing in for them. In happy hes gonna get a big check from fury. I really am. Just his attitude thinking he did izzy conor type numbers when its not even close
@landonaron4103 im talking about his 1st contract. You know the 1 wherebhe made $27 per fight lol its like if i hire you to paint my house and you do 1 wall then try to get more money. The agreement is already made.
This man is true to his heart. He doesn’t need all that fancy sh!t lifestyle. He isn’t desperately seeking attention. Dude came from nothing. He can live that way if need be. No one can take that away from him. Pretty f@cking rare in this world full of money hungry idiots……
That's exactly what killed Dana on the inside, if you recall him saying how he "tried and tried" negotiating with Francis, my guess is trying means every nasty tactic in your "fight game industry handbook" which never worked on him because these people don't come from your lifestyle so for them living a life you consider beneath you, that is a reality of life that they had/have to go through every single day and you can only see fit to capitalize on that. doesn't work on everyone but you still hurt them and that's the worst part.
@@Reaches4Grapes I get what you mean, but I think it's too early to see the full effect of Francis' decision & that impact that'll have on contracts in the future
I remember something in the lines of Dana saying his punch is equal to a for escort truck, the UFC and Dana made him on the other hand Stipe was always disrespected.
In that instance yes. But as soon as there was contract issues with Francis. UFC began it's campaign to devalue Ngannou (as they do alllllll the time with fighters especially champions) remember Cyril Gane ? The UFC propped him so high. Made him out to be the second coming of Bruce Lee. Gave him an interim belt just after Ngannou won the legitimate belt.
@@richarddixon1450 Why would they not? Not everyone is Conor just see the numbers of Francis vs Tyson nobody is interested. Ufc made him from fucking nothing he should have enough loyalty for the company which made him and Dana tried so hard to make a superstar out of Francis but the truth is if he were to fight Stipe again he would lose let alone win against Jon.
I have and its been like that since the Reebok deal, before Francis was even signed by the UFC. I’m just saying he isn’t as clean as he is making himself out to be.
This situation was where I feel dana was completely wrong. Dana was hyping him up so hard and when he lost to stripe, dana just shitted on him after. I think this situation is more about Dana’s ego being hurt n embarrassment more than anything else.
Fighters are also to blame for signing these contracts. It should not just be a "3/5 fight" contract, it should be "be 3/5 fights or 2.5 years" for example. That way the promotion can't keep you with one fight left and drag it out or never let it happen.
Jo knows that stuff is he being disingenuous here. Francis stuck to his guns Dana is just weirdo dictator if your his guy fine but don’t step out of line,
@@andysommerlot5123 bro why are you so invested in defending a scummy rich guy? All over the comments l. That guy doesn't even know you exist and if he knew hed laugh in your face seeing how you defend his shady shit xd fucking loser with no backbone
I think that both Stipe and Francis have been given the shaft by the UFC. Regardless if Stipe would have won a rematch or been given a shot at the interim title, he was the longest reigning heavyweight champ and he has one good fight left in him at the minimum.
Francis wanted the Tyson fight like Mcgregor got with mayweather, end of story, and hes lucky Tyson found a use for him. Francis made 3.5 million in 7 years with ufc. He was hardly poor.
Yeah when he was talking about "oh I can live with nothing. I just live with the money in my wallet" I couldn't help but think of the pics of him in designer clothes and driving Ferraris and l Rolls Royces lol
That's not the point. He was healthy and wanted to fight. Dragging his contract out is evil. His seven fights should been wrapped up in 3 5 years. He gave them 3.5 years of his prime and did t do sheet
Ufc business is so exploitive of fighters. Its pretty ridiculous. If they put a fighters union together like other major sports they would get close to 50% revenue share like the rest of them.
I also fully believe Joe knows exactly how this works already
No doubt. He’s gotta sell it tho
Joe knows everything he asks ! That’s why gets paid multi millions every month.
I think they do it differently with every fighter and Joe is just letting Francis explain it so Joe isn't in trouble with the UFC for saying it himself.
It’s so obvious
Reminds me of when he acted dumb about testosterone like he doesn't know what substance he takes.
“ these people don’t know me, i can live out of nothing “ 😢 respect to this man
He's ready to live without nothing than accepting crumbs.
Well-mannered guy, soft-spoken, a man of his principles. He didn’t let himself to be eaten by the system. A snappy salute!
He also put himself in a position to not get taken advantage of.
Truth is Francis was a money hungry egomaniac. His coaches said this and ufc staff said the same. Ufc offered him 8 mill to fight Jon. But Francis wanted more money. He also said he wanted health care for fighters and doing this for morals not money. Turns out he didn’t care about health care and signed for money 😂😂😂
you have the comprehensions kills of a middle schooler, this is actually concerning. This sport is way to volent for your a kid your age anyway, stop watching it for now until you grow up
Shut up
indeed. totally right
For such a violent and frightening man, he is incredibly soft spoken.
Would you expect him to sound like Darth Vader lol?
@@MrSeanman30 prob more aggressive, it's not his register, it's his style of speaking that is soft spoken.
He got nothing on Mike Tyson
Now kith
I'm gonna say something EXTREMELY controversial and provocative. But that's because he's a real African. Africans from my experience are either highly educated and hard working, or super motivated and most of them are very gentle. They have a beautiful beautiful culture. Sad I can't say the same for American black folks. Look at Jon Jones. I rest my case.
Joe having surprised pikachu face the whole time is actually funnier than his standup
That’s not hard to do. He’s gotta be one of the worst comedians ever
Lmaooo
that mic stand is funnier then joe rogans standup
agreed! 1000% correct man
the JRE defence league will be here to tell you how Joe is the funniest, smartest guy around 😅
It’s so refreshing to see a man who stands by his principles no matter what. Mad respect to him
This isn’t a business for principals lol he will fall into irrelevancy within a year
@@chapman2001I know you smell funny in real life
@@vergilsportfoliook kid
@@vergilsportfolio Has to lmao
@@vergilsportfolio smells like unwashed ass.
Never deserved the hate he got for leaving UFC. Dana was saving face by acting as if Ngannou was scared to fight Jones. In reality Francis was done with Dana playing games. He knew he deserved more and knew the UFC wasn’t going to give him that. He proved to us that the UFC lies a lot and are dishonest.
Nah he didn’t want to fight jones
Lol
jones fans have no brains😂
Dana is racist guy
@@Burgy945right...
This is a man that stands on his principles. Coming from nothing he knows he is a good man and works hard. He knows his worth and will work hard for whoever pays him. Dana is out of touch
Ya that some principle ripping off Fernand Lopez
@@Rileyedare u stupid or u didn't just watch this video
@@humanactivated1017Lopez was the one abusing him. Cyril lost because he was with Lopez.
This fool got an opportunity of a lifetime by Dana and then starts acting likes he’s the greatest thing for the ufc while not wanting to take fights. Stop it with the hypocrisy.
@@immanuelweltin6584Seems like you know everything that goes on in the background.
I love how Joe is pretending to be surprised 😮 😭😂😂
He’s always part of the madness & lies.
A real snake cobra 😅
Why? He's not there negotiating with Dana
@@awesome1ru he isn’t but everyone knows how ufc treats the fighter. Just look at the Mighty Mouse situation. Joe works for ufc so he definitely knows how corrupt the ufc is since he works under the same boss. Francis and Joe had the same boss and worked for the same company. And Joe is acting clueless.
Francis is the man. He actually cares about his fellow fighters.
It’s crazy this soft spoken, genuinely nice guy is still arguably the baddest man on the planet. Still legitimately bummed we’ll never see the Jon jones fight. One of the biggest what ifs in combat sports history.
well that's why he ain't ever gonna get paid the big bucks. because he is a genuine nice guy. that shit ain't entertaining so you ain't making the big bucks. he needs to be more brutal and promote himself better.
a giant feels less fear than a small man, that usually makes small men more agressive and bigger man less agressive, also big and small dicks have an impact, it's all very instinctive wired into our DNA
@@rampage3337Some people prefer to stay true to themselves, do you expect him to act like connor McGregor?
Rampage riding that uncle dana sausage...?
Well Francis did duck that one .
How can you not love Francis Ngannou ! He’s so right about not borrowing money, unless it’s an investment in yourself !
He’s a turd. UFC doesn’t need him.
Well ya that because he stole the money and didn't ever pay it back . Ask Ciryl Games trainer and Francis trainer who put up few cos for years free and he stole and never paid him back .
@@humanactivated1017how could we ask ciryl ganes trainer
@@humanactivated1017agree, ask him why where are all the people who help you get to where he’s at ? 🤔 tired of hearing about this guy as a victim, he has burned many more to get to where he’s at today, and if it wasn’t fir the UFC you would even know who this guy is. What a loser
Yeah. Seems to be as nice and genuine of a guy as you could hope to find.
You're still not in the right place Francis. Your true calling is ASMR.
Lmao
😂😂😂 you crazy
Francis “the asmr” nganu
are u stupid or u didn't just watch this video ... stupid boy
I want him to hold me in his big black arms and rock me to sleep
😭😭😭😭😭 You're the goat for this comment.
Humble and self aware. How can you not love this guy?
This is the worst week for Dana and the UFC.
Jon Jones injury, Bud Light, and now Francis fight with Fury... RIP UFC
Bro had to borrow money to fight and Dana is like yeah Francis was well paid
Spent his "borrowed" moeny on a hair transplant
If you can make a few thousand dollars work for you. C’mon, dude is acting like they gave him a check for 500 bucks.
@@angeldaroseli3031 Fighting the best in the world and getting paid well under a mil a fight. Compared to boxing that is actual chump change. The UFC is in a Lawsuit against 1,200 fighters for underpaying and neglecting them. Isn't new news
@@burnt_beverage5445they can’t box. Neither can I.
@@angeldaroseli3031are u stupid or u didn't just watch this video
"All those loans are American shit bro. I live based on what I've got in my wallet" - love it
Borrowing 10k to make a million is a no brainer. This is how business is done
Lool said like a slave controlled donkey !
Borrow (create) money from thin air and you have to pay interest on top of it..what a civilization!
@@drphil4209100X your money? That’s some American shit lmao
@@drphil4209 is this why USA is in 30 trillion national debt ?
I liked Frances before, but after watching this clip I’m an even bigger fan. Such a good guy, so humble, and I love his views on debt.
He’s like a soft spoken really good guy and at the same time he’s the Hulk and could kill/smash any human being on the planet. lol
@@Jin125 except jon jones
Or he is also just financially illiterate. Debt can be good if it’s assets and tax write offs
@@tristanoce5233Dickriding 101
@tristanoce5233 Yes that's true. But Jon goes retires if Francis comes back.
I hope this man shocks the world for a number of reasons. This man suffered to be where he is at this moment of his life. I wish him nothing but abundance of wealth and good health.
He won’t shock anybody if u talk about boxing. There is levels between someone who’s been doing it for whole life and someone who’s started at 20+ (and to top it off we talking about the elites of elites - heavyweight boxing fucking champion of the world)
@@tatianab8406 yes but francis only needs one good punch and it´s over
@@tatianab8406 tyson should step in the mma cage if he wants to shock the world.....for francis just being in the boxing ring is a shock and awesomeness
Everyone is doing the same thing
Don’t bet your money on it
Dana white should be in jail for not paying them guys
they can just go fight somewhere else FOR EVEN LESS MONEY
He pays them. The fights just want more than no their last.
It’s good to see him do well.
I'm always down to see a brother succeed.
Do well? HE STILL Hasn't had a fight? now he's entering a sport to cash a bag? He really has a small chance of winning.. He had the chance to be the greatest UFC heavyweight ever & now he will be known as the former MMA champ who tried to switch to boxing? (I don't wanna talk smack saying he will loose, but no man born from a mother cunt can beat Tyson Fury, IF Wilder couldn't get it done? WHAT realsistic chance does this guy have? He is a VERY VERY inexperienced version of wilder.. Wilder caught him once, in the 12th? & it wasn't enough.. in 3 fights. We all know he's not OUT BOXING Tyson, he has to knock him out or he looses, wilder 'COULD' have won on points even, because he's a boxer )
@@f.miller801is a “brother” a black person? I honestly hope not. Because that’s some of the mustiest things the system has done to black people. Calling each other “brother” thinking that the rest of the races are not also human. Pathetic segregation and blacks, or most pressed races, are easiest to fall victim to this system.
Again, I’m hoping that the “brother” meant another fellow humans being.
@@FalafelFlametake ur meds bud
@@FalafelFlameyou’re so weird dude
It's disgusting how only certain high-ranking fighters get the big multi-million dollar paydays. Francis was the champion and should be realistically set up financially. Dana is a vile human being
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Indeed but that's the fight business. UFC reported on several occasions that WWE influenced them too and that's also entertaining business. Francis was just not that interesting nor he knew how to promote himself.
If you aren't selling pay per views then you don't get the big payday its that simple.
And you’re delusional. Dana isn’t “vile” you’re literally just sensitive and delusional about the topic 🤦🏻♂️ criminals who hurt people physically are “vile”. Government politicians who rob your society of trillions are “vile”.
There is no UFC without Dana White.
The whole of MMA would have fizzled out into dysfunctional weak organizations like the PFL and Bellator. It would have collapsed in on itself. And the PFL basically only exists thanks to the hype the UFC has created for MMA with Dana White at the helm.
I like Francis, but he is Awful at promoting himself and does ZERO WORK to promote anything. He goes on a few podcasts. But that’s literally just 2 hours out of ONE day of the year 🤨 that’s hardly doing real promotional work period.
The guy expected the UFC to do all the work when he gave them not a single thing to promote him about. Just being a good fighter isn’t enough to compel a wider audience to watch and pay 60-70 bucks for a PPV. You need to create a connection and present yourself so that the audience can make that connection.
Its not about fighting - its entertainment. You want to make money you have to sell the fight. That means high social media reach and generating interest promoting the fight. Its business and so many fighters are not business men - they assume a child to parent relationship
The ufc would be nothing without its fighters. Absolute disgrace and I can’t wait to see the other promotions overtake them in terms of prestige and exposure
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I wouldn’t know any of the fighters if it wasn’t for the UFC
Honestly speaking how much money does these fighters make for the company
PFL will definitely overtake the UFC. They have better management and a more transparent matchmaking system based on merit - not DW privilege.
@earlforrester4908 you also wouldn't know ufc if wasn't for the fighters 😊
Powerful how he said he can live out of nothing, weather he is rich or poor he is not bothered. Tells you alot about what type of a person he is, not so many people can be comfortable with whatever , that now is character 💪🏿 💯
Can we all appreciate how good Francis's english is too? It's improved so much over the years.
As a Cameroonian like Francis now based in the US, trust me, credit cards are our kryptonite, We were raised that "Debt is Trouble" ONLY in America I see people being proud of having 50k credit limit 🤣
Same in the Netherlands, we call it "spending money you don't have".
Same here, however it's entirely encouraged.
When a lot of the economy is based around market housing prices...and you won't realistically be able to buy a home without good credit rating.
And how do you get a good credit rating ? By going in debt 😂😂
It's so damn predatory
@@skindred1888 W to the system for that lol
They are killing Americans with debts and they don’t even know it.
I had one credit card in my life. I'm a 40 year old Canadian of British ancestry. The credit card I got when I was 20. Didn't pay attention to what I was spending. My limit was $1000. I called and asked for my limit to be raised to $1500. They said no. Then afterward, without my permission they raised my limit to $6000 and I racked up debt without realizing it because I made a mistake and didn't pay attention to what I was spending vs what I was paying off. My mistake. But that company knew what they were doing by raising the limit without telling me. Once I paid it off I swore to never have a credit card again. And I never have. Credit cards are soft slavery. Now I buy everything other than my house and car with cash. If I don't have the cash, I don't get the thing I want. If I haven't earned it then I shouldn't get it, that's life.
I'm with you, brother. Credit cards are a blight on humanity.
Win or lose in any ring, Francis has already won 🙏🏾. This some inspirational and motivational shit. You deserve all that’s coming your way
If you don’t stand for something you’ll fall for anything is probably my favorite quote of all time. Also joe knows way more about Dana then we could ever dream of knowing. I’m sure there’s more reasoning behind joe saying he leaves when Dana leaves in his contract other than friendship.
Marroed bald dudes slingin dick as shaub said
yeah but 99,99% of the 1st world don't actually stand for anything. most people are just sheeple that follow the heard and do what ever is the most trendy and popular.
Francis isnt scummy enough like Jon Jones and Conor Mcgregor so he doesn't generate big cards. UFC is a sideshow and hes too normal.
@@jrjl89you’re a casual
you’re genuinely a straight up casual if you say that 😂😂
and i don’t call people casuals
but you know literally nothing, be quiet
@@GelusssI don't think his point has anything to do with how much you watch. He stated an objective fact that FN makes less than JJ or CM because he draws less eyes by not talking crap or stirring controversy. You could never have watched a single fight and know this to be true on the numbers alone.
Nothing but props to this Cameronian bro this man Francis is genuinely a good man . The guy did the hardest work to get where he is and don't take shit for granted. Stay humble Francis the payday your gonna get for Tyson fight you deserve every dime brother good job Francis.
Slowing down the contact process when you know fighters are tight for money and you don’t want them to renegotiate is dirty, that’s not honouring the deal already made , backing them into a corner and limiting their options.
Ngannou should be a T shirt model, he makes me want to pump more iron.
For real, idk how a man’s arms can get that big
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@@Brickwilliams forced labor in a sand mine in his childhood, training professionally for combat sports as an adult and lucky to have insane genetics.
@@watenallace663 yea ok lets just ignore the PED use I suppose 😆 is brock lesnar your favorite natty athlete?
maybe youre a ghey thoo
I love watching the UFC…but they’re also corrupt bullies.
@mtmta2009 lol no one thinks the UFC should not pull a profit but they earn a profit on the fighters backs so the lions share should go to the fighters after overhead is removed and currently unless your named Mcgregor that does not happen so much and the Dana White privelage is real if he arbitrarily doesnt like you then you get treated like might mouse maybe the greatest of all time where he had to go public to even get his championship belts from the UFC let alone fair pay or Ngannu or your can be Colby covington who he likes not fight in forever beat no one of import for years and be walking into a title shot. the company for sure bullies fighters.
@mtmta2009 that's why most businesses have giant class action lawsuits out against them by their employees for unfairly suppressing wages? Or is that something that just specifically has to happen here and that's why it's fine? 🤔
@@dillonoickle5841overhead only? Do you not know how a business works? Especially this one? How does it preform so well? Because they invest in the business.. that is why they are so big now. They don’t just collect and pay out after their net to fighters, they invest which keeps things new and eyes coming fight after fight… fighter pay is stupid.. look at the top guys they are grateful and monetize their position
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A man of integrity protects his values. Values are nothing unless tested. Good man.
I believe him. He seems genuine, authentic , real, humble, and all around great human. Will always be a fan. Wish u the best champ
So crazy how soft spoken this guy is..
Dana White is a JOKE..... The way he gives his "personal favorites" (Lesnar) the keys to the store while holding back LEGITIMATE fighters is almost criminal.
And with Colby it is even worse
Rich & successful and responsible for growing the sport far beyond anyone else, and giving us the best and biggest promotion with the best fighters. I wish i was "a joke".
So he should give Belal " the decision king" to that opportunity to becomes the champ and can't sell 1PPV to save his own life.
@@Leviathanino, Lesnar was clearly on Peds so he's much worse
@@mohammodmashud6747 Colby can hang with his division without PEDs. Internet hate for Dana is real. He is not in charge of all the business negotiations. Sometimes people can't meet half way. I can name plenty of filthy rich UFC fighters. I think fighter pay has gone up a lot but still needs a bidenflation boost. Bump the bonuses up to 75k, and raise the level of base bay a bit. They can afford to now.
this guy should do audiobooks
Hell no. Terrible accent
That would be great
He should read kids bed time stories
Can he even read 🤔
@@goodnightmunchiewhy bro?
Of course Joe knows how it works, still I think Joe has the right approach to letting Francis clarify himself so people can judge themselves and at the same time not criticize the company he works for
Yeah being a cowardly shill is totally the right approach eh? Even for a guy who is already FILTHY rich like Joe Rogan? S.t.f.u. you bum
If Joe himself said that he would have legal problems with the ufc.
They don’t promote black fighters 😂McGee got a billionaire and he gets beat up every fight
Francis made right decision
Wow man... the "borrowing money for training camp" thing is really sad and infuriating. Moreover the fact that it was stated by a huge UFC star, HW champion and the world record strongest/hardest punch holder. All those accolades and still underpaid....
Not our fault dude is horrible with money
He's a soft spoken, gentle giant! I hope he KO's Tyson Fury!
The sky would fall, all of the nukes would be released if that happens
Yeah thats why he keeps hitting knocked out fighters on the floor. Hes a scumbag.
@@Djangorechained12you just don’t understand mma then?😂
@@Jim_is_Burningtbh it's not about understanding it, and i like Francis fights but the dude hit these dead bodies so hard, yeah technically you continue the fight until the referee stop it, but when the guy is clearly out what's the point of hammering him so hard, i feel it's just Francis enjoying it 😂
@@mohammedahmed1109 yeah and he's going to get a taste when Tyson knocks him out.
Watched the whole podcast, Francis is a great champ and a true gentleman!! Wish him the best
so what he is saying is accurate to the podcast? The first 2 mins looked edited asf. His eyes position and arms position change dramatically word by word of his dialogue.
He is going to make more in One Fight Boxing than His Entire UFC Career... I am Happy for Him...
he’s set for life and this past weekend
Cool, kind and down to earth guy that didn't get what he deserves from UFC I am glad he stood his grounds and left for the better.
Francis we all know you’re the good guy in all of this and we all hope you ‘re making the bag you deserved a long time agoo go get it Champ! ❤️
And enjoy getting KOd next month
@@paleo704 You’re up for a big suprise 😉
Joe asking questions he already knows the answer to.....
Exactly, the podcast is not for Joe, it’s for the fans. This is how it works smh
@@ezramusoke5994 even the feigned surprise? uh huh
yes but he has to do it that way- he loves the UFC but he's also allowing ngannou to share his experience- joes doing what he needs to do
Nick Diaz knows what happens when you won't play their way.
Francis is such an incredible story, love this guy
When Francis Ngannou left the UFC, I checked out ... have not been back!
I think Joe is transforming into Matt Sera right in front of our eyes.
Reverse that
They are the same person
i havent watched any rogan in about a year.. man he is transforming.
LMAO
He’s starting to get that Liver King look on his face. I read it’s from the juice.
Such a soft spoken man..was not expecting it..much respect for francis!
This man is the man, may God bless him. Straight up truth Francis all the best brother
Joe Rogan is Dana White’s friend, so Francis is wasting his time talking to him.
One thing people , mostly Americans don’t understand is that especially people of African descent are very intelligent. They know how to conduct business and won’t let ppl get over on them
Francis is great, to leave ufc and pursue his dream while advocating propper treatement of fighters is super classy. Best of luck to him!
So the damn HW champ needs a purse advance. Yea it’s time for a fighter’s Union. Go get that boxing money Francis
How would a fighter's union prevent the financially illiterate Francis from flushing his money down the toilet again?
Most of the UFC’s roster grew up white trash conservative, so they’re never going to unionize. Because it’s better to be a spineless kiss-ass carrying water for the elites than being a gay commie or whatever.
Maybe he needed a class on budgeting and money management!
@@DGillian6406 I’d say he learned how to manage nothing living in a third world country pretty well. Taxes and training camp fees alone eat up over 60 percent of a fight purse. A guy that’s HW champ should not be having to take what’s the equivalent of a payday advance
@@DGillian6406or maybe he made the right choice coz he getting paid now ...maybe you need those lessons more
Imagine paying to watch UFC?
One of the select few
back in the day you had no choice! not anymore XD
imagine, imagining...
:DDD
A lot of people do it indirectly trough TV providers and other streaming platforms I believe.
What a gentleman Francis. What a genuine man ❤️
The UFC tried to put him in a financial position where most fighters would accept a new deal.sadly for them as Francis explained he had known destitution/poverty before.
ngannou is an absolute stud not just as a fighter but for his heart of gold
he did what he planned, even though everyone said he was crazy, got to respect this man,they tried to play him down, but he came from nothing, he knows how to make nothing into something
Who said he was crazy ? We said he’s ducking Jon Jones
Ngannou the peoples champ
nah, thats paul wall
Not my people, definitely.
@juu9do278Cameroon and France are known for complaining about both those things lol
You know joe has already asked Dana if he can podcast with Francis, and you know Dana told joe not to ask certain questions
Bro Francis is so respectful
I really hope the fighters win the lawsuit im tired of hearing how dana and the ufc screws everyone over
Both sides get to negotiate. Both sides have their own interests and risks in mind and those interests/risks are met and mitigated thru contract.
Either side can say no.
Nobody has to sign.... fighters aren't slaves. They aren't forced at gunpoint to sign a contract.
@@andysommerlot5123such a tired argument. Of course “no one is forced to sign,” literally no one is claiming they are. The problem is ufc exploiting its leverage as the top promotion to control fighters, give them the bare minimum, keep all the profit for a few executives, and discard the fighters when they’re no longer useful. What Francis described here is a perfect example of that exploitation.
@@andysommerlot5123 it’s not a balanced negotiation, it’s essentially coercion of the fighters into suboptimal terms. These fighters (excluding the highest-paid 1-2%) barely make enough to sustain themselves, let alone paying all their coaches and trainers and for travel and medical costs etc. It’s just classic capitalist power dynamics, and it’s especially bullshit because we can see the revenue that the UFC makes compared to leagues like NFL and NBA, and the huge discrepancy between their profit and the percentage of earnings paid out to their athletes. Dana and the corporate heads at Endeavor are just greedy and selfish, simple as that.
Its a business. A successful business takes more than it gives. There wouldnt even be a UFC with all the best fighters if they didnt operate as such. Noone holds a gun to a fighters head to sign a contract.
@@4ev3rmorechael sonnen puts it perfectly, there are more than 400 fighters in the roster and of the more than 400 fighters less than five fighters bring in profit and the rest are losses and honestly speaking i get that
I wonder how Dana feels about Joe giving Francis his platform. He’s also asking leading questions about the UFC. He definitely gonna be salty if he sees it
Over the years Joe has made hundreds of questionable comments about the UFC
I don't think Dana mind. Joe can bring in anyone to do interview but it doesn't change of Dana and the UFC run their business.
Dana Tomato is gonna get 10 shades redder from this interview. Slap a wife, blow some coke, then scream at Joe Rogan
Danas gonna jump Joe next time he sees him
Dana needs Joe way more than Joe needs Dana at this point. Joe has openly spoken about how he’s seriously debated leaving the UFC because he just doesn’t have much time for it anymore. That’s why Joe only commentates on fights in the US, just doesn’t have the time to travel around the world for events now.
Joe Rogan knows exactly what’s happening he’s trying to act like he has no idea. Bro, you’ve been in the UFC for years. Do you know how these contracts work?
Question... Do you sheep in comments ever think for yourself?😂
He made $300k + $50k bonus vs Overeem & paid $500k for *LOSING to Stipe & that doesn't meaning he made just under $1mil in 3 months so if he was "broke" then that's not Dana or UFC fault its HIS!!!
Thats a real fn bicep, no steroids.💪🏿
his story kind of all over the place some, on the extensions. he is a cool dude. he just needs better people to read his contracts, he will do good in boxing
That’s why it’s a lawsuit, do you think your lawyer can come remotely close to the UFC’s lawyers? Stop that “just read the contract,” UFC has unlimited resources & will drown you out. They already tried to form a union. You see Dana put a stop to that years ago.
It's interesting how the comment section used to be about how Francis overplayed his role and now everyone's on his side.
it's because most people are just jumping on bandwagons without ever really knowing the reality of the situation.
Same with this video, it’s a band wagon jump. Francis lied here and everyone seems to have forgotten that he was injured that’s why he didn’t fight for a whole year! He had knee surgery, that’s what he said held up his fights. His stock dropped and his stock would drop some more next month in Riyadh. How many of you even know when PFL fights? Jokers
@@WolfgangSylarcry more.
Dana’s dikBros trolls are still out there like Muskitos they just been salted by Francis upcoming bag
Yea Joe doesn't know...BS...he's been there from the early days. Dana robs these guys to buy shoes he deosnt even wear 😂
How is he robbing a guy who willingly signs a contract?
@@andysommerlot5123 compared to boxing he pays ufc fighters nothing, look at the NBA or the NFL or MLB, UFC fighters are underpaid because of the structure of the organization aka Dana. Rob can mean badly treated, you want to argue semantics...
@obsidian7644 who EVER said the UFC absolutely HAS to operate their business just like the NFL, NBA, MLB, etc...???
@@andysommerlot5123 I'm saying stars in those leagues are making upwards of 50 million a year or more even the average players get 10 million or more. The ufc could pay it's stars much more and the average fighters more and it wouldn't stop the ufc from promoting fights or making plenty of money. Now let's look at what ufc fighters make per year vs the leagues I mentioned. It's not even close. So yes they are being robbed unless you are McGregor and even he has said as much. Why do you think they are all going to boxing (more money less risk)? The difference is UFC fighters are putting their minds, bodies, and in some cases their lives at risk in the octagon for pennies on the dollar.
@@andysommerlot5123 ufc fighters have said as much for decades...the biggest difference is the UFC deosnt have a players or fighters union.
He’s very soft spoken for a guy that’s been through some rough stuff.
A genuine and sincere man. Respect and honour.
Francis will make more money in the fury fight, losing, than he did in ufc never losing, Dana is the scummiest promoter of this generation
Wonder what kinda gun Dana held to Francis's head to make him sign a contract. Im gonna say a 500 s&w mag.
@@garym51124 you're missing the point bro, he didn't want to re-sign another and Dana use shaddy tactics to screw him over
@saynotothegreatreset lol this started with his 1st contract. That he signed got some movie appearances(thanks ufc) then thought he deserved more thanbhe was bringing in for them. In happy hes gonna get a big check from fury. I really am. Just his attitude thinking he did izzy conor type numbers when its not even close
@@garym51124he didn't that's why he left, doesn't change the fact that he was getting screwed over
@landonaron4103 im talking about his 1st contract. You know the 1 wherebhe made $27 per fight lol its like if i hire you to paint my house and you do 1 wall then try to get more money. The agreement is already made.
UFC's (Dana's) biggest mistake ever is screwing over Francis. His story is incredible and he's the most exciting heavyweight ever to watch.
Dana didn't screw over Francis, Francis did that to himself.
Most exciting heavyweight ever to watch??? Lol yeah right
@@Gratefulfellow exactly, francis sold 300k ppv's while being champion in his last fight with gane, and expected to make money as if he was conor
@@stacks3892 it's mental, it's delusional.
Nah he will be forgotten in 5 years
Nganou is so eloquent and articulate he’s got a job as a commentator
This man is true to his heart. He doesn’t need all that fancy sh!t lifestyle. He isn’t desperately seeking attention. Dude came from nothing. He can live that way if need be. No one can take that away from him. Pretty f@cking rare in this world full of money hungry idiots……
That's exactly what killed Dana on the inside, if you recall him saying how he "tried and tried" negotiating with Francis, my guess is trying means every nasty tactic in your "fight game industry handbook" which never worked on him because these people don't come from your lifestyle so for them living a life you consider beneath you, that is a reality of life that they had/have to go through every single day and you can only see fit to capitalize on that. doesn't work on everyone but you still hurt them and that's the worst part.
The success of Dana white proves God does not rule this world
Dana fought Francis because he's showing fighters how to stand up for themselves. I'm glad he won at the end
@@Reaches4Grapes I get what you mean, but I think it's too early to see the full effect of Francis' decision & that impact that'll have on contracts in the future
I remember something in the lines of Dana saying his punch is equal to a for escort truck, the UFC and Dana made him on the other hand Stipe was always disrespected.
In that instance yes. But as soon as there was contract issues with Francis. UFC began it's campaign to devalue Ngannou (as they do alllllll the time with fighters especially champions) remember Cyril Gane ? The UFC propped him so high. Made him out to be the second coming of Bruce Lee. Gave him an interim belt just after Ngannou won the legitimate belt.
@@richarddixon1450 Why would they not? Not everyone is Conor just see the numbers of Francis vs Tyson nobody is interested. Ufc made him from fucking nothing he should have enough loyalty for the company which made him and Dana tried so hard to make a superstar out of Francis but the truth is if he were to fight Stipe again he would lose let alone win against Jon.
@@ritwijayushmaan1834 terrible take.
When they say triceps make up 80 percent of arm size... francis says fuck that.
Fight promoters don’t become millionaires & billionaires by giving away money
They do it by keeping as much as they can for themselves
Yeah Joe knows exactly how the UFC works 😅😅
I am not convinced it was about doing other things outside of UFC. Money does play a big part regardless of how he makes it sound like.
He also say its because of the sponsors ufc dont allow you to have sponsors listen the podcast
He also say its because of the sponsors ufc dont allow you to have sponsors listen the podcast
I have and its been like that since the Reebok deal, before Francis was even signed by the UFC.
I’m just saying he isn’t as clean as he is making himself out to be.
A guy that could easily kill someone, comes of as such a nice human being. Talking about money, and how he lives. That's an inspiration.
UFC done him dirty... but now Francis is gonna smash $10M!! It all worked out for him.
If it wasn’t for Dana White nobody would even know this guy. Nothing like bashing the guy who made you
This situation was where I feel dana was completely wrong. Dana was hyping him up so hard and when he lost to stripe, dana just shitted on him after. I think this situation is more about Dana’s ego being hurt n embarrassment more than anything else.
A loan for training camps? The business of fighting gets deep.
@@YawKhepraIF
My heavyweight goat. Noble warrior
This guy has more juice in him than Alistar and Jon Jones together in their prime
So much awkward energy, in my opinion, from Rogan throughout the 2 hours. He knows how the UFC operates already
Fighters are also to blame for signing these contracts. It should not just be a "3/5 fight" contract, it should be "be 3/5 fights or 2.5 years" for example. That way the promotion can't keep you with one fight left and drag it out or never let it happen.
Ooh he's Soo humble. 😂
Jo knows that stuff is he being disingenuous here.
Francis stuck to his guns
Dana is just weirdo dictator if your his guy fine but don’t step out of line,
You do know that negotiating a contract is a LEVEL PLAYING FIELD right?
Nether side is forced to sign
@@andysommerlot5123 bro why are you so invested in defending a scummy rich guy? All over the comments l. That guy doesn't even know you exist and if he knew hed laugh in your face seeing how you defend his shady shit xd fucking loser with no backbone
I think that both Stipe and Francis have been given the shaft by the UFC. Regardless if Stipe would have won a rematch or been given a shot at the interim title, he was the longest reigning heavyweight champ and he has one good fight left in him at the minimum.
Francis is the LAST lineal UFC Heavyweight champ. This is something Jon Jones can never have.
Francis wanted the Tyson fight like Mcgregor got with mayweather, end of story, and hes lucky Tyson found a use for him. Francis made 3.5 million in 7 years with ufc. He was hardly poor.
Yeah when he was talking about "oh I can live with nothing. I just live with the money in my wallet" I couldn't help but think of the pics of him in designer clothes and driving Ferraris and l Rolls Royces lol
Dont forget , manger free , coach fee , travels and hotels. When you subtract all of that he hardly made any money
@@itcheebeardyou know that's not his cars , it's called promotion
That's not the point. He was healthy and wanted to fight. Dragging his contract out is evil. His seven fights should been wrapped up in 3 5 years. He gave them 3.5 years of his prime and did t do sheet
i find comments like this so jarring.
Ufc business is so exploitive of fighters. Its pretty ridiculous. If they put a fighters union together like other major sports they would get close to 50% revenue share like the rest of them.