Ironically Gojo would have a way easier time dealing with the Gun Devil,the bullets won’t hit Gojo because of infinity so he can just casually float to the Gun Devil’s head and headshot it with a Hollow Purple
It's possible that the "fire a bullet through head" ability is a certain-hit, and would ignore Infinity in the same way Domain Amplification does, but Gojo is Gojo so he could probably beat it by reinforcing his technique with his domain or something.
@@someguy4405 That’s not how they work. They’re just really fast bullets, the gun fiend showed us this and it’s just weaker version of the gun devil, I know fiends don’t really loose any extra abilities because when power came back as a full devil, she just got a more buff version of her abilities
These out of verse battles are what make me realize Gojo is far superior to Sukuna in a battle that isn't in their verse. This is simply because Gojo's infinity is broken, if he and the Gun Devil were to brawl none of the bullets are even hitting Gojo and he simply takes the Gun devil down with Purple
@@Steez224 wtf do u mean, off verse battles are why gojo is so wanked. You can't ever see people claim Sukuna beats Naruto but people will claim gojo does because of infinity
@@Falls213 they say that shit about Gojo because they know what he can do and have no idea what sukuna can do yet. His hax is probably broken af cuz he called it cheating and said he wouldn't use it against Jogo. Mahito saw Sukuna fight at 15 fingers and said he could kill everyone in Japan, and he knows Gojo. Also, infinity doesnt necessarily make Gojo superior to Sukuna anymore than kamui makes Obito superior to Naruto, broken as it is. Let's wait until we know what Sukuna is capable of before drawing these fanboy conclusions.
@@chiaki.hayakawa18 Even as a JJK fan myself I can wholeheartedly agree with this They mostly think since most of the top tiers are unbelievably haxed (and with certain statements) you can bring a character's strength up by a insane degree
@@yokuutsu9097 yeah, JJK characters have very unique abilities, but the only thing the verse is currently short at are raw speed and destructive power. Gojo is the only one, carrying the JJK verse in anime vs battle, due to his infinity. Even tho, they're many weak characters have many abilities that can bypass infinity.
The gun devil is like a walking speed check doesn't matter how much durability of attack potency you have if you physically can't hit the thing the only other solution is a super long-range attack outside of the gun devils reach that's capable of killing it other than that it's just raw speed or some weird defensive hax like gojo has.
If the gun devil's passive "headshot to males" is a regular bullet that has to travel the distance then gojo is good. But if it's some magic bs (since it's a passive) then it could just materialize inside the head and blow it up instantly in which case not even gojo is safe lmao. I wonder which
@@vii2903 the bullets that shoot people in the head obviously travel like you can see it on panel. But the bullets that aim for the heart are much more contentious and aren’t obviously coming from any direction in particular.
Generally speaking any of those stats in excess could do the the job. Going by anime logic then anyone with country or above can just punch in it’s general direction and the resulting shove would blow to kingdom come along with its bullets. With high enough durability you can basically walk through the bullets, granted the knock is going to be a bitch to deal with but you’ll get there eventually, with enough speed can just dodge, so on and so forth. Sukuna just so happens to be someone in the ranges of being able to both dodge and tank the bullets and kill it if he wanted to
I’m not sure if it works the same in Chainsawman, but while we’ve only gotten to see Sukuna at 75% full power, I believe that this version of the Gun Devil was only 13-20% of the Gun Devil’s full power. Devils have been shown to have their power split up when their body or aspects of them are separated. Why else would countries be trying to gather the most pieces of the Gun Devil in the first place if not to empower their stash of gun-pieces instead?
This is actually a fair point The gun devil feats have to be remembered with his losing power over time as it moves at high velocity, and the fight with Makima happened at a fifth of its power While Sukuna feats are 75% of his power
@@randomperson8397 actually, that was a lie. The gun devil was being killed by something during the his attack, and though he hasn't shown much intellect, he understands human language enough to make contracts, so he cannot possibly be that dumb to split himself into dozens of smaller pieces just to raise his fear, when he could do that without moving at full speed. Not only that, but every single devil in the series has been shown to be capable of handling their top speed, and if makima had said early on the truth which would be that something was attacking and eventually defeated the gun devil, it would have foiled her entire plan, so she only mentions it towards the latter chapters of part 1 when aki goes to talk to her.
@@aarav7851 Let's be honest... The only Gun Devil 100% feat... Literally overfeat all JJK, except for Yuki, because she could literally fuck the planet
@@tyrantking222 I can see a counter argument with gojo's hollow purple nuke, but that was more like a suicide attack and it still did less damage than what just the American part of gun devil did on a random Tuesday
@@aarav7851 Irrestrict Purple is strong and big... But it cannot be compared to Gun Devil tracing a fucking flat line of pure destruction in the planet.
when it comes to the passive, it seems more like the Gun Devil randomly and arbitrarily chooses the condition people need to meet to become it's targets and where to aim, but it seems that the spot it would aim at would be somewhere lethal to be hit by a bullet so it wouldn't be unreasonable that Sukuna may not meet needed requirements
It's automatic. If you borned in certain months of the year & if you are a living being, he will activate those abilities in less than one second and kill you before one second passed.
I give this to sukuna, sukuna being able to turn the entire shibuya into dust in a matter of seconds while holding back just from cutting is insane I don’t think people understand how many cuts it takes to turn literal builds into sand not only that it’s shown sukuna being punched through buildings and coming out with zero scatches and being able to live without a heart meaning he can’t be killed by any ordinary means on top of that people forget you can’t kill a jujitsu sorcerer without using a cursed tool or else the will just keep coming back as cursed spirits no matter how many times you kill them like Noaya and sukuna not only that the fact that sukuna now has mahoraga who is able to adapt to every and all phenomenon it’s wraps for the gun devil having those two coming at you
And ge is against the Gun Devil that cross entire countries around the world in seconds, about mach 500 while shooting bullets that wipe out city blocks. Sukuna dues
Not only that but bro forgot to mention that bullets literally have no effect on sukuna since special grades are capable of tanking carpet bombing aka missiles, it’s safe to assume that sukuna won’t get scratched by the bullets. His toughness is on another level.
@@chocolatemilklover8532 Agreed, the gun devil was a worldwide catastrophe, Sukuna is a Japanese catastrophe. Unless he can expand his domain across the whole world I don’t see it ending well for Sukuna.
So considering the update with Sakuna I think this video could do with an update also considering we might not know Sakuna’s full potential as well as the devil’s choice to either close the gap or try to snipe sakuna. If Sakuna were to use his domain expansion defensively. He could destroy about every projectile made at him while his potential range isn’t quite yet stated. So would it be a sniping game? Or would one of them have to close the distance? Especially with Sakuna’s ability to cut space how would that factor?
Kamutoke would also be ab interesting play in this case. Since sukuna can use kamutoke with one hand also use domain expansion by other two hands while also having one hand free. Notice: he can use kamutoke and domain simultaneously since kamutoke is a cursed tool not his cursed technique. Since sorcerers can't use other cursed technique besides the domain sure hit technique when they are in domain. So sukuna wins this easily now.
No need for an update, gun devil is too op, we've never seen it at more than 20% power and even in such a state it would body Sukuna 15 fingers which means that the hypothetical gun devil 100% could annihilate Sukuna 20 fingers ( basic maths )
@@voilavoila196 "basic maths" lmao you're underestimating sukuna. Not only sukuna was of 15 fingers that time, he was also in itadori body. His original body has much more hax, moreover, sukuna is bodying everyone in his 19 finger form. Imagine 20 fingers + his original form. What he can do is just use his domain, and move while casting his domain since his other two hands are free. He can cut all bullets like this and also have one hand to use kamutoke, his weapon and another weapon to use his black box thing, the fire arrow. Gun devil at most can do what? Shoot bullets, which sukuna's domain can cut through easily.
@@LegendaryGoku22 I will directly say that the fact Sukuna 19.5 fingers can body everyone in JJK right now says nothing about how his fight with gun devil would go when nobody in jjk among the good guys has a power level even close to that of the gun devil. I might be underestimating Sukuna, but you are underestimating a devil that could hit multiple countries at the same time causing an absurd amont of death with 20% of its power....u can deduce that it's full power would reach a scale that nothing in jjk ever reached as of now. We don't even know if at 100% it could only shoot normal bullets or if it could do some weird Jojo like shit. We don't even know if the gun devil's bullets have a speed limit, we basically know nothing of what it could do if it took any fight seriously ( the only thing it ever did was stomping on ants, never trully do a 1 on 1 fight ) All I'm trying to say is that we should both admit we have no way of knowing who would win because it's entirely based on hypothetical knowledge as both opponent have very blury maximum potential and 1v1 abilities.
The thing about them is we know pretty much nothing of what Sukuna can do, we don't know his technique, his power is still only at 75 percent, but still with all the hax, insane wisdom and cool aesthetic I give it to King of Curses
It’s not even 75% since it’s been confirmed the fingers increase his power exponentially, and they get stronger every day. 15 finger Sukuna would likely get no diffed by 20 finger sukuna
@@dp2950 this was the exact thing i was about to comment. for people that don't know that that means jogo the fire disaster curse is around o.o4% the power of full 20 fingers sukuna and 1.6% the power of 15 fingers(if we assume jogo is indeed as powerful a 9 fingers.) oh and 15 sukuna is 3.125% of 20 fingers sukuna so yea.
@@Discorded stick to fate, Jogo confirmed this already. He made the mistake in thinking every sukuna finger gave sukuna a certain increase in power. He realized his mistake and figured out each finger exponentially increases his power and got no diffed. Also Megumi already said his fingers grow stronger everyday.
@@Discorded also it’s been confirmed even more ryu is around 11 finger sukuna lvl and even though there only being a 4 finger difference he got blitzed and one shotted
@@FunnyAwesomeVideos do you honestly think sukuna could do something even better than this in seven seconds also in some admittance have seen what happened in shubuay the deaths of thousands a couple of those were sorceress now imagine that’s but not on a city scale but the whole world no offense but do you think someone powerful wasn’t killed or crippled by the gun devil hell in the manga we literally see the gun fiend basically obliterate a building with a few shots all that from a fiend the fucking fiend
@@ryangodina3525 again, they are fodder, don’t think your understating what I’m getting at, but your trying to say the Gun devil massacred 1.2 Million people in seven seconds and that Sakuna would just he obliterated by the bullets and of course sakuna can’t kill that many people in a short amount of time but again everything comes down to their abilities, not how much people they killed and the gun devil dosent even know who he is so why is he going to waste time the ONLY way these two face is if they personally acknowledge each other and I will admit if sakuna is far away then the gun devil stands a chance but if they are in view of each other sakuna easily wins
This video reminded me how op the gun devil was in part 1, I wonder if it could come back into part 2 in some way. It doesn’t have to, but it would be cool if it did.
Gun Devil isn't dead in the manga. The other nations will use their gun devil bullets they collected, to revive many portions of Gun Devil very soon. Since a new primal devil is on Earth now and many more primal devils gonna come on Earth soon to kill everyone. *War arc incoming*
That was only a certain percentage of the gun devil, china and russia and the other devils/ faction's still have a majority of their own gun devils so it'll prolly come back at the end of the world
Yes, I agree, Sukuna gets absolutely 360 no scope’d. However, I am willing to change my opinion considering we will definitely see more of what Sukuna can do in the manga. When we get new info and feats with either his CT or Ten Shadows then yes I’m going to change sides. Until then, Sukuna gets destroyed, the Gun Devil is too much for him.
@@bandzzman1224 as someone who has read jjk I can definitely tell you that that’s not the case. On the contrary, he has enough speed and power to kill it, No Operator just lowkey kinda sucks at power scaling either them if I’m being honest
@@anhthai7005 we don’t know the full power of the gun devil because we only seen 13% of its power I believe and we don’t know the full power of sukuna but at 15 fingers he did a domain which had a diameter of 200 meters gun devil has a effect radius of 500 meters and that’s at 13% of its power. So if sukuna can get pass billions of gun devil amped bullets without getting hit in the head for 500 meters then yea sukuna wins but I highly doubt it
@@anhthai7005 and sukuna has fast reverse curse technique but his head would have been shot a thousand times while regenerating his arms covering his head.
If you have an off guard Maki catching a bullet at point blank range, Sukuna going to be able to react to those bullets just fine. If he doesn’t know the gun devil is coming for him then he could be taken off guard, but I doubt Sukuna isn’t sensing the Gun Devil pull up. Still a great video. Edit: Alright, y'all made me reassessing both combatants I will say this. Both of these dudes are fast as fuck. Sukuna has more durability, but seemingly less speed. Sukuna basically has to make a mad dash for about 8 minutes or less (If you don't follow Mach 3 speed cap in JJK) to reach Gun Devil at 500 km. There are good arguments for both sides and honestly I am torn. The questions come down to if Sukuna can react, and if he can't then is he durable enough? If he can react to Gun Devil attacks then Gun Devil probably loses. If he can't react but can take then hits, then Gun Devil probably loses. But if he can't take the hits, then Sukuna is probably dying. Interesting Side Note: If the Gun Devil were to kill Sukuna there would be a chance Sukuna becomes a Vengeful Cursed Spirit, which would overhaul all of Sukuna's attributes.
But they'll be thousands of bullets coming at him constantly Not to mention considering the damage one of those from the gun feind does to denji id say they aren't just any regular bullets, they likely also move alot faster too considering the amount the gun devil could kill with them within such a short period of time He stayed in Hawaii for 0.4 seconds.. 700+ dead
@@matthewdouglas8368 also the gun devil is much faster, since it was traveling across the US, Japan, Russia, India, China, Mexico, and Hawaii in 5 minutes and killed over a million people.
@@matthewdouglas8368 if we wanna be fair, when you look at the passive attacks plus whatever manual attack was chosen at that time and assume that the launched projectiles keep going even after the gun devil leaves a location, 700 in 0.4 is not that impressive.
@@timelost7055 but his ct does not move with him and will eventually end unlike the gun devil that can just keep shooting regardless. i don't think Sukuna has a way to close the distance at all.
Dunno, feels a bit too early to do a vid like this when it seems that a greater explanation or display of Sukuna’s power appears to be on the horizon. There’s just so much about his actual powers we don’t know for it to really be as engaging of a video as it could be.
It got way too much wrong in my opinions. It feels like the guy can’t quite scale properly without broken Ronin. Nor can he well, power scale traditionally it seems
@@seannvincenzroque1962 To be honest it felt less like scaling and more like he went with what looked most impressive. In this case the gun devil killing millions in Japan and destroying countless buildings is more impressive than anything sukuna has done. That is until you actually stop and look at both characters and peal back a couple layers to find not only can a single bullet of the gun not do any meaningful damage to 15 finger sukuna but he’s more than fast and strong enough to kill it. To add on to the range of the attack doesn’t really matter if sukuna could arrive at the gun’s location in like less than 1 minute while ignoring all the bullets fired at him
@@anhthai7005 the gun devil is faster by traditional scaling as he travelled the world in 5 minutes. The reason he used what’s more “impressive” is because they both rely on hax to be broken in their verses. And if we assume that his bullets/abilities are as fast as him plus his auto heart bullets that’s prettty much dura neg. I think he did this pretty accurately
If we take into consideration Ten Shadows Sukuna with recent manga events, Sukuna in Megumi’s body most likely wins off the back of Mahoraga and the other Shikigami since they wouldn’t be targets to the auto fire, and most likely could withstand some shots. If the wheel of Mahoraga is out, than Mahoraga can adapt to the bullets and it’d be a win.
@@localtincan5666you attack him first but wheel hasn't pinned so you attack him again and wheel spin and mahoraga adapts to your attack Another way is you attack him first and wheel will spin overtime and adapt to you
What if Sukuna opens his domain while 800m away, commands cleave and dismantle to cut down the bullets before they get close to him, while moving closer to the gun devil? That is, if the domain will move with him.
Though hits are guaranteed in the domain it doesn’t matter if the attack hits you before you can react. And the guns bullets can be calced at thousands of Mach at 20% soooooo
@Bigniko26 I hear you. You can’t move your feet with simple domain. But you can move in a barrier domain. Megumi could move in his incomplete domain with an existing barrier. I don’t remember so It comes down to did we see Kenjaku take a single step when he cast his barrierless domain vs. Yuki? And does the domain move with you or the radius stays from the point you casted it? Another question is Would it inhibit movement speed? For what it’s worth I’m betting it emanantes from around you, and the practitioner of true jujutsu could move with his domain cast on the air around him. Even if that resulted in limited range. But who knows. This sounds so busted lmao
Gun Devil solos all of JJK once except for Gojo and Gojo would starve to death eventually if GD keeps speedblitzing around Earth shooting anything he tries to eat or drink
I feel like the real question is does Sukuna’s reverse cursed technique scale above Hakari’s? Because Hakari was able to get blasted by lightning in the brain and instinctively heal himself in time to suffer no damage. Lightning travels faster than bullets and faster than the gun devil’s automatic attacks (1000 mps versus 120,700 mps). If Sukuna can take the shot from the gun devil he should be able to win by blitzing the devil
Hakari was able to easily read kashimos light which move at a linear beam(the only reason for him getting hit was due to light tracing him) however I scale sukuna at ftl because of the hollow purple feat and also now that sukuna has the 10 shadows he could just spam nue or even summon mahoraga as many times as he wants, not to mention in chapter 217 where yorozu announces why doesn't sukuna use his malevolent shrine, she doesn't typically refer to his Domain expansion but could be referring to his CT so for all we know sukuna could have the most broken CT in the verse
Hakari didn't dodge or counter the lightning. It hit his head, and his head bulged up from the heat. He was able to heal before his face exploded, I guess because heat takes time to diffuse outward, but he didn't really react to lightning.
@Some Guy the light was going to hit his head but he simultaneously evaded a head shot and it instead blew off his arm but still he was able to react to the light
The best reaction speed feat that Sukuna can be granted is that of him reacting to Hollow Purple at the last moment. With Hollow Purple being stated as "virtual" (*not "imaginary"*) mass, it can be shot at extremely high speeds, possibly hypersonic. Sukuna reacting to that would make him deal alright against Gun devils' bullets. The question about whether Sukuna can or cannot sense the Gun devil from a kilometer away is also easily solved because he was able to sense Gojo's presence from about 4 kms away. There is no doubt that Gun devil is also going to have an aura that wouldn't be too hard to go unnoticed by someone like Sukuna. Sukuna's movement speed is also far greater than a fully realised Maki because he was able to keep up with both Yuji and Maki at only 10% output. Maki, at that point in time, can, in fact, move at mach 3 speed (Naoya's speed feat). And even if she was not going full speed while fighting Sukuna, she was AT LEAST going at mach 1 or 2, and as for Yuji, well, he can also move around at about the same speed as Maki (because he literally jumped from the ground to the top of a fvkin multi-storey building, so with his explosive leg strength, it's very much possible for him to be at least mach 1 or 2). By extension, Sukuna has a movement speed (MUCH greater than mach 3) that can easily make him reach the Gun devil while taking a decent amount of damage. The argument of whether he can avoid headshots...... well, an "unawakened" Maki reacted to a bullet, granted that it was FAR slower and less powerful than Gun devils' bullets, but still, Sukuna can either dodge or cleave those bullets before they hit him, all while being on the move. Well, once he reaches Gun devil it's over for that spawn of hell, beacause a single Cleave or the world cutting Dismantle packs his shi up. In the worst case scenario, Sukuna has to use his Domain for a very long period to perish Gun devil, which will definitely be VERY draining even for him. In no sense am I saying that Sukuna comes out of this unscathed, BUT he does take the dub, though he'll be heavily injured, just like he was at the end of his fight with Gojo. * To all those saying that Hollow Purple is imaginary mass and not virtual mass, I have bad news for you. If you go read the chapters named "Star and Oil", at the end of one of them, you will find a note about Yuki's Mass technique, which has an explanation that it's "virtual" mass, a kind of mass that DOES exist and ACTS like actual mass, but is NOT actual mass. Later, the same note also states that Gojo's Hollow Purple is also a kind of "virtual" mass and not "imaginary" mass, mass which does not exist at all. (Remember, Gojo's technique bring out the infinity that ALREADY exist, it does NOT make non-existent into the existent). The note says that Gege simply made a mistake while stating the Hollow Purple as "imaginary".
Headshot honestly probably wouldn’t affect him. I know these are a lot stronger than normal bullets, but I feel like people are underestimating the extreme durability sorcerers have when it comes to bullets and traditional weaponry. Unless gun devil can put cursed energy in its bullets, it’s not gonna do shit to Sukuna.
Honestly, as far as we know about Sukuna, its a toss up. Like we know Sukuna has more tools up his sleeve but what he currently shows doesn't really give him much of an advantage.
Are we just going to ignore the fact that the gun devil travelled the world in a couple seconds? that kinda semi light speed feat dude. The gun devil would just bliz Sukuna in a fight.
@@NoOperatorumm I have an opinion . Buddy . What if sukuna use menovalent shrine and cut all bullets coming towards him and wait for gun devil to come near him .
@@abhijeetgolder7535none, this is the same Gun devil that killed thousands of people across the globe in less than a second, and this isn't even it's full power under War when they fought Chainsaw man in hell, JJK has no speed feat like that.
I mean makimas attack was all wielding angel devil's weapons as well along with the combined abilities of pretty strong fears it's safe to assume that it just got outclassed by makima (being a stronger devil as well)
Sukuna is a beast in jjk there’s no doubt about that man, but he def getting his ass ate with maximum efficiency by the gun devil. Also remember that the gun devil wasn’t even at his full strength when he did all that crazy shit.
How so? the gun devil could easily keep distance and well we are not shown any prove world slash has unlimited range (also no it getting thorough infinity dose not count since since he slashed the "space")
@@sanicinapanic4264sukuna can literally just summon his domain to eliminate all/most of the bullets coming at him, then he will just take the wheel from mahoraga and tank some bullet hits and then summon an already adapted mahoraga and its game over for the gun devil. Sukuna can also just hide in the shadows while mahoraga does its thing LMAO and if u think mahoraga cant get close to the gun devil you are hella wrong cuz mahoraga would just adapt to that as well and once mahoraga gets close to the gun devil its just game over, sukuna doesnt even need to come out of the shadows anymore
To talk about Gojo and Sukuna's speed I must talk about all of the following, since they have different feats of movement speed, reaction speed and mental speed (VERY DIFFERENT THINGS) *First Case: (maki's movement speed) -Maki with the 3-6 mach, but this was revealed to be due to a mental block of hers, so she must be superior, and we know that Gojo reached much further than Naobito himself, so Gojo speculatively must be between 12 at 16 mach in movement, and instantaneous if he uses blue to teleport (attracting the distance between him and his destination) *Second case: (reaction speed of gojo and sukuna) -sukuna with kashimo: lightning travels at mach 291.54519 (360,000 km/h) here we have the second measurement for the REACTION speed of gojo and sukuna *Third case: (speed of mental agility): super bright, and I'm not exaggerating, look. Hollow purple (gojo and sukuna reaction speed) -For imaginary mass (what hollow purple is) It is a concept of a mass that, for example, can do things like exceed the speed of light. Hypothetical particle with a spatial type quadrimomentum. This implies that if its energy and momentum are real, its apparent conventional rest mass would be an imaginary number. So the (pseudo) Minkowski norm of its quadrimomentum would be negative. The existence of such a particle is a sign of the instability of the space-time vacuum, because the energy of the vacuum has a maximum instead of a minimum. Based on these particles in our universe, they would even destabilize the space-time universe by breaking its rules, and would exceed the speed of light. Having an amount of energy that is unattainable in our universe Creating imaginary mass literally disrupts the principle of chance. Theoretical particles such as tachyons, which are the imaginary mass par excellence, are based on this. (For example in tachyons) The proper time that a tachyon experiences is also imaginary. A curious effect is that unlike real particles, the speed of a tachyon increases as its energy decreases. This is a consequence of special relativity because, hypothetically, a tachyon has negative square mass. According to Einstein, the total energy of a particle is the rest mass m times the speed of light squared and multiplied in turn by the Lorentz factor, that is, the total energy is given by another formula For ordinary matter, the equation shows that E increases with velocity, becoming infinite as v (velocity) approaches c, the speed of light. If m is imaginary, on the other hand, the denominator of the fraction needs to be imaginary to keep the energy a real number. The denominator would be imaginary if the number in the square root is negative, which only happens if v is greater than c. How is this possible for gojo to control? The 6 eyes, thanks to this he was able to plan to make an expansion of 0.02 seconds in Shibuya, because of these 6 eyes that as soon as he left his prison he was able to assimilate so much information in seconds, and because of these 6 eyes that is his mental agility is so big *So* *Gojo and sukuna's travel speed: 12-16 mach, instantaneous if we count gojo's teleportation, but it's a cheat *Reaction speed of gojo and sukuna: between (360,000 km/h) *Mental speed, at least from Gojo: about light
While I'm unsure if the gun devils bullets are stronger than normal human ones we have a direct scale for bullets vs sorcerers with Haba who couldn't even be pierced by 50 caliber rounds and he's only an estimated semi grade 1. If the gun devils bullets are normal human bullets Sukuna won't even be hurt by the bullets hitting him and he could walk right through and cast DE.
Except gun devil bullets we’re destroying cities in less than 20 seconds it’s fair to say they were bigger and more lethal than the strongest artillery in the real world
Nah they ain’t normal. In the Manga it shows how many seconds were passing and they were two panels between 3:18:25 and 3:18:26 The gun devil started firing on the second panel and in the next page it already reached Makima who was roughly 500 kilometres away. I don’t think normal bullets can cross an entire country in a literal split second.
The way the bullets absolutely destroyed the landscape leads me to think that's they're stronger than even a 50 caliber. A bullet has to be able to withstand the velocity.
Just started, but i know this is a Banger!!! After watching this makes me imagine the suprise we'd have if Sukunas barrierless domain comes with the ability to move his domains centre away from him and to his enemy like a homing system
I think if sukuna gets head shot assuming that his reverse curse technique is the same as other sorcerers he loses but if he gets off his domain then I don’t think any of the gun devils bullets are hitting him since he can auto target them and cleave his way through the gun devil
Just out of curiosity, is it possible for Sukuna to surround himself with Malevolent Shrine to slice apart the a Gun Devil's projectiles and slip within range of the Gun Devil to deliver a single massive counter attack?
@@sorrybroo8303sukuna can literally just summon his domain to eliminate all/most of the bullets coming at him, then he will just take the wheel from mahoraga and tank some bullet hits and then summon an already adapted mahoraga and its game over for the gun devil. Sukuna can also just hide in the shadows while mahoraga does its thing LMAO and if u think mahoraga cant get close to the gun devil you are hella wrong cuz mahoraga would just adapt to that as well and once mahoraga gets close to the gun devil its just game over, sukuna doesnt even need to come out of the shadows anymore
@@UnifiedEntity have you seen the gun devils bullets? I mean he can fire normal ones for piss and giggles but like for most of the manga makes it clear why he's an analogy for nuclear weaponry
@@victorkaranja1420 have you seen jujutsu sorcerers resistance to bullets? Carpet bombing brigades may not take out most special grade curses, let alone sorcerers. I’m pretty sure these bullets are not carpet bombs.
@jackaboy naylor Them stopping an actual black hole only speaks about their feats being above the gun devil's feats. I dont think anything that devil has, he could stand up against a black hole. While tengen barriers and will power was enough to keep its effects supressed as to not destroy earth and possibly the entire solar system
@@No-kw9wu yeah but how exactly. She was like already in dead when it consumed her so I’m like how would that work? And Tengen used his barrier to stop it but like how? What did you do with it? I would imagine depending on what they did to stop it could effect how they scale to the black hole.
I don’t think it’s even said the exact % the gun was, especially with how Makima was threatening the entire world it’s hard too say how many people actually gave there piece’s back.
We don't know what Sukuna's actual ability is at this point. The writer is keeping us completely in the dark up to this point. He can't be the most powerful being Kenjaku has ever seen with just cleave, dismantle and that fiery arrow thing. We just know the ability is called The Shrine and that's about all we know so far.
You should update this Sukuna is more busted now than in Shibuya. Mahoragas wheel would make him immune to any attack he can survive and with the ten shadows he’s a multitool
Mahoraga still needs to be exposed to the gun devil to adapt, before mahoraga can even turn its wheel, roughly 8,500 bullets is flying towards him and sukuna at hypersonic speed 500 km away
@@Icantcomeupofanamewouldn't the Gun Devil just be able to delete Maho in a few seconds anyway? Sukuna destroyed it in Shibuya with his Domain and we've seen the Gun Devil be able to output more destructive attacks at a faster rate so wouldn't summoning Mahoraga against the Gun Devil be pointless?
Sukuna could literally just take the wheel and tank a few bullet hits from the gun devil and mahoraga would be able to adapt that way. Plus, bullets are way too easy to adapt to, just like slashing attacks thats why mahoraga was able to adapt in just a few wheel spins and it could regenerate its disintegrated body and tank sukuna's domain before sukuna unleashed another move that isnt a slashing technique which is the flaming arrow @@Subpar1O1
The ability to fire a bullet through the head of an adult male is confusing, because if i remember right in the culling games the soldiers were using bullets and they said it wasnt working on someone like helicopter head. Sukuna has way higher stats then him so whos to say that sukuna couldnt just eat the bullet on top of the fact that we have seen maki catch a bullet and sukuna is faster then that maki. It does say that it will go through the head though which to me sounds exactly like a sure hit attack. Its really just up to if people think sukuna could tank the gun devils bullets or not.
@@jackaboynaylor9273 the instant shot attacks look pretty normal, especially the heart shots, they just look like normal bullets on hit. They dont rip through them like the ones the devil actually chooses to shoot. I'm more or less arguing the lethality of the instant hit, not the bullets the gun devil chooses to fire.
@@SoulofSquibs I see. I just be seeing all these people who think it’s bullets are as fast as normal ones and it’s absurd how many people do be saying that. Also like to mention that the dude messed up the distance saying 500 metres instead of kilometres which is literally a thousand times smaller and massively downplays the guns range and speed.
@@jackaboynaylor9273 Yeah I've read the manga twice, the gun devil aint someone to down play and I had the same reaction as you when he messed up the 500 kilometers range. Which now thinking about it the gun devil could just 360 no scope sukuna from 500 km away.
@@SoulofSquibs I have a theory why the the bullets were not that destructive it because of the nuclear weapons devil being eaten which causes all man made weaponry to not reach the level of a nuke
Before watching, I say yes. His domain expansion could probably hack away at the gun devil quite well. He just needs to use RCT for the damage he takes from the bullets.
Nah the speed and power difference between the gun devil bullets and sukunas slashes is too large. Sukuna needed a ton of slashes over the course of about 30 seconds to 1 minute to destroy an entire city block. Whereas the gun devil at just 20% of his power did the same in about 2 seconds. And sukunas range is only 200m whereas the gun devils range is kilometers away
The gun devil can shoot 500 km away in seconds, so theyre hypersonic in nature, and gun devil being able to shoot 1.2 million bullets in 5 minutes is killing sukuna before he can use rct
I might have missed some info in the video, but I'm JJk you have people in the second arc reacting to a catching bullets (this is a pre-power up maki) this character at this time in the story is weaker and slower than 15 finger sukana. So shouldn't sukana theoretically be able to catch or at least react to the gun devils bullets (please let me know if i miss something saying the gun devils bullets are faster than normal bullets)
Maki reacted and caught Mai RUBBER BULLETS. RUBBER BULLETS doesn't move at the same speed as normal guns bullets. Rubber bullets speed is SUBSONIC. normal GUN BULLETS speed are SUPERSONIC to HYPERSONIC. Gun Devil bullets are supernatural, it moves at MHS+ in Gun Devil Arc, and can destroy multiple land areas all over the Earth in seconds of different countries. Gun Devil speed is faster than This version of Sukuna. Only Sukuna with 4 arms is relative to Gun Devil 100% speed
@@chiaki.hayakawa18Gun devils speed is nowhere near sukuna lmao Though jjk characters fail in travel speed,, their reflexes and combat speed makes up for it I dont see a reason why sukuna wouldnt just fly to gun devil while dodgjng all the bullets lmfao Especially with the newer kashimo vs sukuna fight, sukuna speed scales massively above gun devil Not to mention, he has survived a literal phase paramita holllw purple and a 200% hollow purple at the start which both outscale any chainsawman ap feats lmao Headshot is the only argument and to be honest, gojo and sukuna were destroying their brains and reconstructing them within the blink of an eye constantly for rct It wouldnt even come to that lol, sukuna would just dodge
@@gpavitra85 Uhh yes it is the gun devil was moving all around the word take in mind its attack only lasted for 5 minutes also the head shot arugment dose work considering they were only destroying a PART of there brain
I don't know about durability, since we aren't sure about how strong Makima's combined move is, we do know that her hax are more op/devastating then her strength as she states is herself meaning the gun devil could definitely take an attack of multiple buildings at minimum, but Makima's abilities are basically just unknown except for like 1 or 2
GUN DEVIL at 20% power ATTACK POTENCY is City lvl and we all should know that AP is equal to Durability. If you punch a wall and break it, you should be able to tanked many wall lvl brute strength. So GUN DEVIL 20% Durability is City lvl and Makima combined attack, that was able to defeat Gun Devil is also City lvl.
@@chiaki.hayakawa18 ap is = to durability? I guess it makes sense, but Makima's punches was estimated to be around building strength and I guess your right, so Makima's attack was city lvl?
@@H4kuii Makima punches can hurt nerfed Pochita/Denji, who have large town lvl durability. At the start of the series, Denji was able to tanked a Bat Devil blast, that destroyed 6 buildings and it was calculated to multi city block lvl. Denji got stronger and he's relative to hybrid form Quanxi, who is large town lvl. Last fight of CSM Part 1. Makima combined hax was able to hurt Gun Devil 20%, Who's city lvl.
@@chiaki.hayakawa18 OHH THAT MAKES SENSE. But ik that combined ability wasn't strength, but Makima definitely has city block strength or multi building strength
It would be cool to put up gojo or sukuna against the darkness devil as all of them are beings that are beyond comprehension currently tho the darkness devil might just win.
tbf with what has been showed before, yes sukuna loses, but we have never actually seen him ever even use his cursed technique, let alone actually try, so it's hard to say for sure, he can then again hes also stated to be able to tank that big ass meteor, saying it would do some damage if it hit, but not kill him. i personally believe if both at full power sukuna would win but that could very well be bias
I think that if Sukuna spam his domain in order to cut the gun devil bullets until he get into range to use it against the gun devil he could stand a chance. I mean thinking about the whole domain fight with Gojo i think he can make quick succesion use of domain and thanks to the range of his domain and is overall speed it could give Sukuna a fair chance. Correct me if i'm wrong.
Yeah the fight with Gojo/Kashimo kinda flipped this whole entire verdict on his head, considering sukunas FTL speed feats in his Heian Era form and his sheer knack to think of new abilities on the fly.
Kashimo's Amber Dragon ability is stated to use EM waves to attack. EM waves = is literally light in their transmission. Meguna wasn't able to react to these until he popped his special healing to go into his form, then waffled kashimo. So yes, Sukuna is Around 1.5-2x FTL.@@nurnebo
and you think gun devil would just let sukuna get close enough to him to activate his domain expansion? 20 percent gun devil is far faster than sukuna even if sukuna got close and activated his domain gun devil can literally just escape in sukunas domain range because hes too fast
sukuna can heal him self with the reindeer AND reversed cursed energy plus he can use mahoraga as wall for adapting to the damages and launch at the same time cleave or dismantle
Chainsaw chapter 76 if I remember correctly: 3:18:23 "Makima acknowledges the gun devil at a distance of 500km" 3:18:25 "The gun devil stands still" 3:18:26 "Makima prepares her ability" "Makima's 29th death is observed" So in less than around one second the bullet travel 500km putting it around mach 1470. The destruction caused by the gun devils's 26 seconds in Japan was calced at large city level. Now first you would need to prove sukuna can survive a constant amount of bullets that would be trying to kill him due to him entering 1000 m of the gun devil, than you would need to explain how he could react to bullets moving mach 1470, than you would need to argue how many large city level attacks before sukuna runs out of cursed energy, than argue how sukuna can match the speed of the gun devil that can travel from nation to nation in a extremely short amount fo time, then argue how he can close the distance while dealing with constant gun fire, then argue that the gun devil couldn't dodge these attacks, then argue the gun devils durability, then you get sukuna's win con
I always found it interesting That in chainsaw man Devils tend to be ridiculously powerful especially at higher leve like like taking on entire cities kind of powerful But the double hunters are arguably pretty weak in comparison. On the flip side JJ k's Curse spirits seem to be pretty equal with the source or is they fight at least for the most part.
@@jackaboynaylor9273 Yeah But as far as we know currently in there is yet to be a devil hunter that could have defeated the gun devil or The darkness devil or even the control devil. Wallen JJK there is multiple high level Sorcerers that can give The strongest of cursed spirits are run for their money and even defeat some of them. In chainsaw man The only ones who could defeat high level devils were devils themselves and technically I don't count Denji as a devil hunter as much as a devil himself. In JJK The humans Are pretty even if not stronger overall than the Curse spirits But in chainsaw man The only advantage humans have it's the fact that not all Devils or as cruel as others and are willing to help without the aid of devil's humanity would have been wiped out and/or nearly extinct by this point the story. The devils and transfer man are treated more with a Is cosmic horror feel Then the Spirits in JJK
@@DrGreen-oo3ei I'm pretty sure you're talking about city destroying feats which is fair but, Think about it like tis devils in csm don't care about area damage only death while devil hunters have to care so we aren't likely to see city busting feats from devil hunters even if they can kill devils. It doesn't mean they can't do it just they won't because that'll be against their job.
"Can this asshole bring a knife to a gunfight and win?" Not gonna lie, that caught me off-guard. Also, seeing as you're doing crossverse debates, I wouldn't mind you doing some debating to do with Holo-Chronicles (ultra-cool Hololive fan series that most certainly deserves more love). Heck, I could even help you out with that stuff, if you need that.
The Gun Devil's individual bullets vary wildly in power, some destroy whole city blocks while some are pinpoint bullets Also yes Sukuna is not surviving 10k bullets to his body lol
@@terminalius 1 sukuna can just dodge the bullets(dodging≠missing) 2 the reason why the bullets can destroy buildings is because there are so many of them
@@JBvideos87483 Sukuna isn't dodging hundreds of thousands of rounds in one second ☠️ And regardless, Sukuna can't tag GD. It far outranges him and is faster than him, what is Sukuna gonna do when GD opens fire on him from 500 km away with thousands of rounds which are far faster than real bullets? And the Gun Fiend's individual bullets were levelling city blocks when he fought Denji, the near death weaker version of GD
@@terminalius Ik he isn’t dodging all of them but he is dodging most of them and every time the gun devil fires the bullets he is stunned for a little bit
Why can't Sukuna use Simple Domain to automatically Cleave any bullet that comes his way while he flies towards his goal? Or, hell, just use his own senses.
fair but in 5 minutes the gun devil traveled across the world killing 1.2 million people in the process he's fast enough to just move yk... and aim better...
Assuming he can do this, domains can only last so long. The speed at which the gun devils bullets have been calc are much faster than sukuna has shown to be able to go and it's range is much much larger. Ino it's only a matter of time before sukuna just gets ripped apart by these bullets
@@virginoverlord238 If we're talking calcs, Sukuna also has been calced to having higher AP and Durability than Gun Devil thanks to Jougo meteor shenanigans.
@@AR15ORIGINAL what have calcs put sukuna based off the meteor feat at in terms of durability? Because 26 seconds of the gun devil is calced at high city level and this is while aiming to kill specific people not aiming to cause destruction
@@virginoverlord238 Gun Devil is calced at large town level, not high city level Coffin of The Iron Mountain is large mountain level, meanwhile base Jougo (a curse which Sukuna treats as cannon fodder) is low end city level. Sukuna also scales to Satoru, who is large mountain level with Purple. Sukuna himself is estimated to be "at least low city level, probably higher" at base, with large mountain/small island level Malevolent Shrine. I personally estimate that Sukuna would be taking chip damage from these large town level bullets. He can regenerate from that indefinitely.
You need to go redo this video because sukuna stomps gun devil and this is why I be telling you to wait before you do theses type of matches because sukuna literally was able to take two hollow purples and cut through space and the world itself so yeah sukuna win this
technically if sukuna had the shrine open, then any bullets that cane towards him would be dismantled before they reached him. and another thing, maki had feats of percieving movement speed over 3700km/h and sukuna being relative to maki physically we can presume that a bullet travelling 3000 km/h can be percieved some what easily.
Sukuna massively out speeds maki who caught a bullet that was like an inch from her face IN THE WEAKEST FORM WE'VE SEEN HER Sukuna easily dodges the bullets or they get cut by malevolent shrine
...the bullet Maki caught was a normal bullet (10 machs). The Gun Devil bullets reach 500 kilometer in only 1 second (+1000 machs). 15 Finger Sukuna (The Sukuna used here) can get hit by a 200 mach Yuji and Awaken Maki.
@@ranmoses2553Sukuna easily wins in megumi's body tho since sukuna can literally just summon his domain to eliminate all/most of the bullets coming at him, then he will just take the wheel from mahoraga and tank some bullet hits and then summon an already adapted mahoraga and its game over for the gun devil. Sukuna can also just hide in the shadows while mahoraga does its thing LMAO
its funny watching this video now as sukuna withstood a hollow purple, multiple hits from hajime under his technique form as well as being able to completely revive using his true form, I don't think the gun devil stands a chance as even without being able to use his domain expansion he could cleave the gun devil in half with strong dismantle.
@@klyzer5725sukuna can literally just summon his domain to eliminate all/most of the bullets coming at him, then he will just take the wheel from mahoraga and tank some bullet hits and then summon an already adapted mahoraga and its game over for the gun devil. Sukuna can also just hide in the shadows while mahoraga does its thing LMAO
Average British knife fight vs average highschoolers weaponry
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Ironically Gojo would have a way easier time dealing with the Gun Devil,the bullets won’t hit Gojo because of infinity so he can just casually float to the Gun Devil’s head and headshot it with a Hollow Purple
It's possible that the "fire a bullet through head" ability is a certain-hit, and would ignore Infinity in the same way Domain Amplification does, but Gojo is Gojo so he could probably beat it by reinforcing his technique with his domain or something.
@@someguy4405 naaaah we see those bullets travel. Perhaps the bullets that aim for the heart but definitely not the former.
@@someguy4405 That’s not how they work. They’re just really fast bullets, the gun fiend showed us this and it’s just weaker version of the gun devil, I know fiends don’t really loose any extra abilities because when power came back as a full devil, she just got a more buff version of her abilities
@@anhthai7005 didn’t power only have the ability to control her own blood as a fiend and then controlled others blood as a devil?
@@mgag2349 really now? I distinctly remember her only summoning swords
These out of verse battles are what make me realize Gojo is far superior to Sukuna in a battle that isn't in their verse. This is simply because Gojo's infinity is broken, if he and the Gun Devil were to brawl none of the bullets are even hitting Gojo and he simply takes the Gun devil down with Purple
You don't even know what Sukuna's actual power is yet
always ironic seeing bad powerscaling be used to try and suck up gojo by fans
@@blu3d3vil97 bro! Like, he doesn't even know what Sukuna's ability is yet
@@Steez224 wtf do u mean, off verse battles are why gojo is so wanked. You can't ever see people claim Sukuna beats Naruto but people will claim gojo does because of infinity
@@Falls213 they say that shit about Gojo because they know what he can do and have no idea what sukuna can do yet. His hax is probably broken af cuz he called it cheating and said he wouldn't use it against Jogo. Mahito saw Sukuna fight at 15 fingers and said he could kill everyone in Japan, and he knows Gojo.
Also, infinity doesnt necessarily make Gojo superior to Sukuna anymore than kamui makes Obito superior to Naruto, broken as it is. Let's wait until we know what Sukuna is capable of before drawing these fanboy conclusions.
I’m sure Sukuna has an anti bullet technique he hasn’t used since the heian era 💀
The funniest thing about this comment is that bullets weren't even around in Japan back then but he'd still have that asspull 💀
“Ah yes, my anti gundevil technique that I haven't used since the Heian era”
Sukuna can cut the bullets with dismantle or malevolent shrine tbh
@@the_infinexosanti projectile technique
@@jamesescondo708 bait used to be believable
What's confusing is how people think the Gun Devil's speed is Mach 3 when it literally wipes out entire cities in mere moments
If something can shot 700,000 people across the Hawaii islands in 0.4 seconds that is blitzing all characters except maybe Gojo from JJK
JJK fans doesn't read any other manga and most of them are very biased towards JJK characters.
@@chiaki.hayakawa18 Even as a JJK fan myself I can wholeheartedly agree with this
They mostly think since most of the top tiers are unbelievably haxed (and with certain statements) you can bring a character's strength up by a insane degree
@@yokuutsu9097 yeah, JJK characters have very unique abilities, but the only thing the verse is currently short at are raw speed and destructive power.
Gojo is the only one, carrying the JJK verse in anime vs battle, due to his infinity.
Even tho, they're many weak characters have many abilities that can bypass infinity.
@@chiaki.hayakawa18 pfff
The gun devil is like a walking speed check doesn't matter how much durability of attack potency you have if you physically can't hit the thing the only other solution is a super long-range attack outside of the gun devils reach that's capable of killing it other than that it's just raw speed or some weird defensive hax like gojo has.
If the gun devil's passive "headshot to males" is a regular bullet that has to travel the distance then gojo is good. But if it's some magic bs (since it's a passive) then it could just materialize inside the head and blow it up instantly in which case not even gojo is safe lmao. I wonder which
@@vii2903 the bullets that shoot people in the head obviously travel like you can see it on panel. But the bullets that aim for the heart are much more contentious and aren’t obviously coming from any direction in particular.
Generally speaking any of those stats in excess could do the the job. Going by anime logic then anyone with country or above can just punch in it’s general direction and the resulting shove would blow to kingdom come along with its bullets. With high enough durability you can basically walk through the bullets, granted the knock is going to be a bitch to deal with but you’ll get there eventually, with enough speed can just dodge, so on and so forth. Sukuna just so happens to be someone in the ranges of being able to both dodge and tank the bullets and kill it if he wanted to
@@anhthai7005 does 500km/s moving bullets work on sukuna skin?
@@hyjjjkyikk3158 yes but with very little effect. A lot of them could damage him but one isn’t enough
I’m not sure if it works the same in Chainsawman, but while we’ve only gotten to see Sukuna at 75% full power, I believe that this version of the Gun Devil was only 13-20% of the Gun Devil’s full power. Devils have been shown to have their power split up when their body or aspects of them are separated. Why else would countries be trying to gather the most pieces of the Gun Devil in the first place if not to empower their stash of gun-pieces instead?
This is actually a fair point
The gun devil feats have to be remembered with his losing power over time as it moves at high velocity, and the fight with Makima happened at a fifth of its power
While Sukuna feats are 75% of his power
@@LNRspeaksNothing in the manga stated that Gun Devil lose power overtime as it moves at insane speed bro. 😂
@@chiaki.hayakawa18 I remember one line that say the gun devil is moving so fast that it’s burning it’s flesh off as it travels
@@randomperson8397 actually, that was a lie. The gun devil was being killed by something during the his attack, and though he hasn't shown much intellect, he understands human language enough to make contracts, so he cannot possibly be that dumb to split himself into dozens of smaller pieces just to raise his fear, when he could do that without moving at full speed. Not only that, but every single devil in the series has been shown to be capable of handling their top speed, and if makima had said early on the truth which would be that something was attacking and eventually defeated the gun devil, it would have foiled her entire plan, so she only mentions it towards the latter chapters of part 1 when aki goes to talk to her.
actually your wrong, sukuna is not in his full power at 75% he never used his full power at 75%, and dont forget tHAT there are still 5 fingers left 💀
Half this comment section hasn't read chainsaw man😂
Even if we do there's no clear measure of strength of full power gun devil
@@aarav7851 Let's be honest... The only Gun Devil 100% feat... Literally overfeat all JJK, except for Yuki, because she could literally fuck the planet
@@tyrantking222 I can see a counter argument with gojo's hollow purple nuke, but that was more like a suicide attack and it still did less damage than what just the American part of gun devil did on a random Tuesday
@@aarav7851 Irrestrict Purple is strong and big... But it cannot be compared to Gun Devil tracing a fucking flat line of pure destruction in the planet.
@@aarav785120% is enough to delete the jjk verse except gojo
when it comes to the passive, it seems more like the Gun Devil randomly and arbitrarily chooses the condition people need to meet to become it's targets and where to aim, but it seems that the spot it would aim at would be somewhere lethal to be hit by a bullet
so it wouldn't be unreasonable that Sukuna may not meet needed requirements
it purposefully targeted makima at one point. it could do the same for sukuna
It's automatic.
If you borned in certain months of the year & if you are a living being, he will activate those abilities in less than one second and kill you before one second passed.
@@poopman6944also adult male is a condition for auto headshot, sukuna will be targetef
gun devil can target specially when in 500m range, and idk if u know but a cool fact is all of the *random* conditions are statistics on gun violence
@@lukazade1 500km*
"can this asshole bring a knife to a gun fight" got me😂😂😂
I give this to sukuna, sukuna being able to turn the entire shibuya into dust in a matter of seconds while holding back just from cutting is insane I don’t think people understand how many cuts it takes to turn literal builds into sand not only that it’s shown sukuna being punched through buildings and coming out with zero scatches and being able to live without a heart meaning he can’t be killed by any ordinary means on top of that people forget you can’t kill a jujitsu sorcerer without using a cursed tool or else the will just keep coming back as cursed spirits no matter how many times you kill them like Noaya and sukuna not only that the fact that sukuna now has mahoraga who is able to adapt to every and all phenomenon it’s wraps for the gun devil having those two coming at you
The gun devil blew whole cities away and went across the world in seconds....I'm sorry but a 100 percent gun devil folds sukuna like a omelet.
And ge is against the Gun Devil that cross entire countries around the world in seconds, about mach 500 while shooting bullets that wipe out city blocks. Sukuna dues
Not only that but bro forgot to mention that bullets literally have no effect on sukuna since special grades are capable of tanking carpet bombing aka missiles, it’s safe to assume that sukuna won’t get scratched by the bullets. His toughness is on another level.
But I might be wrong abt the damage output of the gun devil tho
@@chocolatemilklover8532 Agreed, the gun devil was a worldwide catastrophe, Sukuna is a Japanese catastrophe. Unless he can expand his domain across the whole world I don’t see it ending well for Sukuna.
So considering the update with Sakuna I think this video could do with an update also considering we might not know Sakuna’s full potential as well as the devil’s choice to either close the gap or try to snipe sakuna. If Sakuna were to use his domain expansion defensively. He could destroy about every projectile made at him while his potential range isn’t quite yet stated. So would it be a sniping game? Or would one of them have to close the distance? Especially with Sakuna’s ability to cut space how would that factor?
Kamutoke would also be ab interesting play in this case. Since sukuna can use kamutoke with one hand also use domain expansion by other two hands while also having one hand free.
Notice: he can use kamutoke and domain simultaneously since kamutoke is a cursed tool not his cursed technique. Since sorcerers can't use other cursed technique besides the domain sure hit technique when they are in domain.
So sukuna wins this easily now.
No need for an update, gun devil is too op, we've never seen it at more than 20% power and even in such a state it would body Sukuna 15 fingers which means that the hypothetical gun devil 100% could annihilate Sukuna 20 fingers ( basic maths )
@@voilavoila196 "basic maths" lmao you're underestimating sukuna. Not only sukuna was of 15 fingers that time, he was also in itadori body. His original body has much more hax, moreover, sukuna is bodying everyone in his 19 finger form.
Imagine 20 fingers + his original form. What he can do is just use his domain, and move while casting his domain since his other two hands are free. He can cut all bullets like this and also have one hand to use kamutoke, his weapon and another weapon to use his black box thing, the fire arrow. Gun devil at most can do what? Shoot bullets, which sukuna's domain can cut through easily.
@@LegendaryGoku22 I will directly say that the fact Sukuna 19.5 fingers can body everyone in JJK right now says nothing about how his fight with gun devil would go when nobody in jjk among the good guys has a power level even close to that of the gun devil.
I might be underestimating Sukuna, but you are underestimating a devil that could hit multiple countries at the same time causing an absurd amont of death with 20% of its power....u can deduce that it's full power would reach a scale that nothing in jjk ever reached as of now. We don't even know if at 100% it could only shoot normal bullets or if it could do some weird Jojo like shit. We don't even know if the gun devil's bullets have a speed limit, we basically know nothing of what it could do if it took any fight seriously ( the only thing it ever did was stomping on ants, never trully do a 1 on 1 fight )
All I'm trying to say is that we should both admit we have no way of knowing who would win because it's entirely based on hypothetical knowledge as both opponent have very blury maximum potential and 1v1 abilities.
@@LegendaryGoku22nah, you're just a jjk meat rider
The thing about them is we know pretty much nothing of what Sukuna can do, we don't know his technique, his power is still only at 75 percent, but still with all the hax, insane wisdom and cool aesthetic I give it to King of Curses
It’s not even 75% since it’s been confirmed the fingers increase his power exponentially, and they get stronger every day. 15 finger Sukuna would likely get no diffed by 20 finger sukuna
@@dp2950 lol relax def not true
@@dp2950 this was the exact thing i was about to comment. for people that don't know that that means jogo the fire disaster curse is around o.o4% the power of full 20 fingers sukuna and 1.6% the power of 15 fingers(if we assume jogo is indeed as powerful a 9 fingers.) oh and 15 sukuna is 3.125% of 20 fingers sukuna so yea.
@@Discorded stick to fate, Jogo confirmed this already. He made the mistake in thinking every sukuna finger gave sukuna a certain increase in power. He realized his mistake and figured out each finger exponentially increases his power and got no diffed. Also Megumi already said his fingers grow stronger everyday.
@@Discorded also it’s been confirmed even more ryu is around 11 finger sukuna lvl and even though there only being a 4 finger difference he got blitzed and one shotted
We all have to acknowledge that like sukuna the gun devil was only at 20% and yet killed nearly 1.2 in 7 seconds
But those were fodder just typical civilians.
@@FunnyAwesomeVideos do you honestly think sukuna could do something even better than this in seven seconds also in some admittance have seen what happened in shubuay the deaths of thousands a couple of those were sorceress now imagine that’s but not on a city scale but the whole world no offense but do you think someone powerful wasn’t killed or crippled by the gun devil hell in the manga we literally see the gun fiend basically obliterate a building with a few shots all that from a fiend the fucking fiend
@@ryangodina3525 again, they are fodder, don’t think your understating what I’m getting at, but your trying to say the Gun devil massacred 1.2 Million people in seven seconds and that Sakuna would just he obliterated by the bullets and of course sakuna can’t kill that many people in a short amount of time but again everything comes down to their abilities, not how much people they killed and the gun devil dosent even know who he is so why is he going to waste time the ONLY way these two face is if they personally acknowledge each other and I will admit if sakuna is far away then the gun devil stands a chance but if they are in view of each other sakuna easily wins
@@FunnyAwesomeVideosa bullet can destroy a building, they are not normal bullets. Oh, sorry, I meant the gun fiend's bullets
@@bignoob2726 watch jjk s2 ep 17
This video reminded me how op the gun devil was in part 1, I wonder if it could come back into part 2 in some way.
It doesn’t have to, but it would be cool if it did.
Probably will. Have a whole theory about a big war happening with the gun devil and Denji becoming a terrorist.
Gun Devil isn't dead in the manga.
The other nations will use their gun devil bullets they collected, to revive many portions of Gun Devil very soon.
Since a new primal devil is on Earth now and many more primal devils gonna come on Earth soon to kill everyone.
*War arc incoming*
They could bring him back as a hybrid, considering all hybrids have been weapon devils
@@Jay-nc8ic YES
That was only a certain percentage of the gun devil, china and russia and the other devils/ faction's still have a majority of their own gun devils so it'll prolly come back at the end of the world
Yes, I agree, Sukuna gets absolutely 360 no scope’d. However, I am willing to change my opinion considering we will definitely see more of what Sukuna can do in the manga. When we get new info and feats with either his CT or Ten Shadows then yes I’m going to change sides. Until then, Sukuna gets destroyed, the Gun Devil is too much for him.
I however disagree
I definitely agree. the only reason someone wouldn’t is because they’re JJK Stans. It’s not like gun devil stops it’s assault so sukuna can get closer
@@bandzzman1224 as someone who has read jjk I can definitely tell you that that’s not the case. On the contrary, he has enough speed and power to kill it, No Operator just lowkey kinda sucks at power scaling either them if I’m being honest
@@anhthai7005 we don’t know the full power of the gun devil because we only seen 13% of its power I believe and we don’t know the full power of sukuna but at 15 fingers he did a domain which had a diameter of 200 meters gun devil has a effect radius of 500 meters and that’s at 13% of its power. So if sukuna can get pass billions of gun devil amped bullets without getting hit in the head for 500 meters then yea sukuna wins but I highly doubt it
@@anhthai7005 and sukuna has fast reverse curse technique but his head would have been shot a thousand times while regenerating his arms covering his head.
If you have an off guard Maki catching a bullet at point blank range, Sukuna going to be able to react to those bullets just fine. If he doesn’t know the gun devil is coming for him then he could be taken off guard, but I doubt Sukuna isn’t sensing the Gun Devil pull up. Still a great video.
Edit: Alright, y'all made me reassessing both combatants I will say this. Both of these dudes are fast as fuck. Sukuna has more durability, but seemingly less speed. Sukuna basically has to make a mad dash for about 8 minutes or less (If you don't follow Mach 3 speed cap in JJK) to reach Gun Devil at 500 km. There are good arguments for both sides and honestly I am torn. The questions come down to if Sukuna can react, and if he can't then is he durable enough? If he can react to Gun Devil attacks then Gun Devil probably loses. If he can't react but can take then hits, then Gun Devil probably loses. But if he can't take the hits, then Sukuna is probably dying.
Interesting Side Note: If the Gun Devil were to kill Sukuna there would be a chance Sukuna becomes a Vengeful Cursed Spirit, which would overhaul all of Sukuna's attributes.
But they'll be thousands of bullets coming at him constantly
Not to mention considering the damage one of those from the gun feind does to denji id say they aren't just any regular bullets, they likely also move alot faster too considering the amount the gun devil could kill with them within such a short period of time
He stayed in Hawaii for 0.4 seconds.. 700+ dead
@@matthewdouglas8368 also the gun devil is much faster, since it was traveling across the US, Japan, Russia, India, China, Mexico, and Hawaii in 5 minutes and killed over a million people.
@@matthewdouglas8368 if we wanna be fair, when you look at the passive attacks plus whatever manual attack was chosen at that time and assume that the launched projectiles keep going even after the gun devil leaves a location, 700 in 0.4 is not that impressive.
@@matthewdouglas8368 one use of his ct and all the bullets are dust
@@timelost7055 but his ct does not move with him and will eventually end unlike the gun devil that can just keep shooting regardless. i don't think Sukuna has a way to close the distance at all.
Dunno, feels a bit too early to do a vid like this when it seems that a greater explanation or display of Sukuna’s power appears to be on the horizon. There’s just so much about his actual powers we don’t know for it to really be as engaging of a video as it could be.
It got way too much wrong in my opinions. It feels like the guy can’t quite scale properly without broken Ronin. Nor can he well, power scale traditionally it seems
that's why he was using 15 fingers, not 20 fingers
@@anhthai7005 What's wrong exactly? I personally thought it was a pretty accurate scaling
@@seannvincenzroque1962 To be honest it felt less like scaling and more like he went with what looked most impressive. In this case the gun devil killing millions in Japan and destroying countless buildings is more impressive than anything sukuna has done.
That is until you actually stop and look at both characters and peal back a couple layers to find not only can a single bullet of the gun not do any meaningful damage to 15 finger sukuna but he’s more than fast and strong enough to kill it. To add on to the range of the attack doesn’t really matter if sukuna could arrive at the gun’s location in like less than 1 minute while ignoring all the bullets fired at him
@@anhthai7005 the gun devil is faster by traditional scaling as he travelled the world in 5 minutes. The reason he used what’s more “impressive” is because they both rely on hax to be broken in their verses. And if we assume that his bullets/abilities are as fast as him plus his auto heart bullets that’s prettty much dura neg. I think he did this pretty accurately
If we take into consideration Ten Shadows Sukuna with recent manga events, Sukuna in Megumi’s body most likely wins off the back of Mahoraga and the other Shikigami since they wouldn’t be targets to the auto fire, and most likely could withstand some shots. If the wheel of Mahoraga is out, than Mahoraga can adapt to the bullets and it’d be a win.
mahoraga gets speed blitzed by the gun devil before he can turn his wheel
@@alexspeed1088 Literally 3 attacks and its adapted.
@@kurosaki987he still needs time to adapt, if its killed before it even knows what the hell hit it then it cant adapt and immediatly dies
@@localtincan5666you attack him first but wheel hasn't pinned so you attack him again and wheel spin and mahoraga adapts to your attack
Another way is you attack him first and wheel will spin overtime and adapt to you
@@localtincan5666it's explained in manga with sketch
What if Sukuna opens his domain while 800m away, commands cleave and dismantle to cut down the bullets before they get close to him, while moving closer to the gun devil? That is, if the domain will move with him.
Confirm in Hakari V Kashimo u can move ur domain
@@djsjdh-hoahdi He moved the barrier, so if Sukuna’s domain expansion doesn’t have a barrier I’m not sure if it could be moved.
Though hits are guaranteed in the domain it doesn’t matter if the attack hits you before you can react. And the guns bullets can be calced at thousands of Mach at 20% soooooo
@Bigniko26 I hear you. You can’t move your feet with simple domain. But you can move in a barrier domain. Megumi could move in his incomplete domain with an existing barrier.
I don’t remember so It comes down to did we see Kenjaku take a single step when he cast his barrierless domain vs. Yuki? And does the domain move with you or the radius stays from the point you casted it? Another question is Would it inhibit movement speed?
For what it’s worth I’m betting it emanantes from around you, and the practitioner of true jujutsu could move with his domain cast on the air around him. Even if that resulted in limited range. But who knows. This sounds so busted lmao
The bullets are guaranteed hits, you can't doubt them or cut them before they hit you.
watching this after the revival of hein sukuna he blitzes lmao
no he doesn’t lmfaoo are you dumb
No he don't lil bro what are u on
Sukuna meatriding heavy
@@DominicSaxmanfr Gun Devil speed blitzes
Gun Devil solos all of JJK once except for Gojo and Gojo would starve to death eventually if GD keeps speedblitzing around Earth shooting anything he tries to eat or drink
At 4:27 after sukuna said " ill show you what real jujutsu is" i got a pizza hut ad you cant out pizza the hut 💀
The Gun Devil is like a mobile Malevolent Shrine that shreds cities as it rips through your country at 300 km/s.
I feel like the real question is does Sukuna’s reverse cursed technique scale above Hakari’s? Because Hakari was able to get blasted by lightning in the brain and instinctively heal himself in time to suffer no damage. Lightning travels faster than bullets and faster than the gun devil’s automatic attacks (1000 mps versus 120,700 mps). If Sukuna can take the shot from the gun devil he should be able to win by blitzing the devil
Hakari was able to easily read kashimos light which move at a linear beam(the only reason for him getting hit was due to light tracing him) however I scale sukuna at ftl because of the hollow purple feat and also now that sukuna has the 10 shadows he could just spam nue or even summon mahoraga as many times as he wants, not to mention in chapter 217 where yorozu announces why doesn't sukuna use his malevolent shrine, she doesn't typically refer to his Domain expansion but could be referring to his CT so for all we know sukuna could have the most broken CT in the verse
Hakari didn't dodge or counter the lightning. It hit his head, and his head bulged up from the heat. He was able to heal before his face exploded, I guess because heat takes time to diffuse outward, but he didn't really react to lightning.
@Some Guy the light was going to hit his head but he simultaneously evaded a head shot and it instead blew off his arm but still he was able to react to the light
Maki literally caught Mai’s bullet during the early Tokyo vs Kyoto event.
@@ruxqs3879 see
The best reaction speed feat that Sukuna can be granted is that of him reacting to Hollow Purple at the last moment.
With Hollow Purple being stated as "virtual" (*not "imaginary"*) mass, it can be shot at extremely high speeds, possibly hypersonic. Sukuna reacting to that would make him deal alright against Gun devils' bullets.
The question about whether Sukuna can or cannot sense the Gun devil from a kilometer away is also easily solved because he was able to sense Gojo's presence from about 4 kms away. There is no doubt that Gun devil is also going to have an aura that wouldn't be too hard to go unnoticed by someone like Sukuna.
Sukuna's movement speed is also far greater than a fully realised Maki because he was able to keep up with both Yuji and Maki at only 10% output. Maki, at that point in time, can, in fact, move at mach 3 speed (Naoya's speed feat). And even if she was not going full speed while fighting Sukuna, she was AT LEAST going at mach 1 or 2, and as for Yuji, well, he can also move around at about the same speed as Maki (because he literally jumped from the ground to the top of a fvkin multi-storey building, so with his explosive leg strength, it's very much possible for him to be at least mach 1 or 2). By extension, Sukuna has a movement speed (MUCH greater than mach 3) that can easily make him reach the Gun devil while taking a decent amount of damage.
The argument of whether he can avoid headshots...... well, an "unawakened" Maki reacted to a bullet, granted that it was FAR slower and less powerful than Gun devils' bullets, but still, Sukuna can either dodge or cleave those bullets before they hit him, all while being on the move.
Well, once he reaches Gun devil it's over for that spawn of hell, beacause a single Cleave or the world cutting Dismantle packs his shi up.
In the worst case scenario, Sukuna has to use his Domain for a very long period to perish Gun devil, which will definitely be VERY draining even for him.
In no sense am I saying that Sukuna comes out of this unscathed, BUT he does take the dub, though he'll be heavily injured, just like he was at the end of his fight with Gojo.
* To all those saying that Hollow Purple is imaginary mass and not virtual mass, I have bad news for you. If you go read the chapters named "Star and Oil", at the end of one of them, you will find a note about Yuki's Mass technique, which has an explanation that it's "virtual" mass, a kind of mass that DOES exist and ACTS like actual mass, but is NOT actual mass. Later, the same note also states that Gojo's Hollow Purple is also a kind of "virtual" mass and not "imaginary" mass, mass which does not exist at all. (Remember, Gojo's technique bring out the infinity that ALREADY exist, it does NOT make non-existent into the existent). The note says that Gege simply made a mistake while stating the Hollow Purple as "imaginary".
Btw this is 37% of the gun devils power💀
Geto was able to react to sniper rounds.
Sukuna is WAY faster.
Sukuna getting that headshot
Exactly! Lmao
Headshot honestly probably wouldn’t affect him. I know these are a lot stronger than normal bullets, but I feel like people are underestimating the extreme durability sorcerers have when it comes to bullets and traditional weaponry. Unless gun devil can put cursed energy in its bullets, it’s not gonna do shit to Sukuna.
Excellent video watched from start to finish for that 100% fam 💪
“Ah yes, the anti blicky technique, I haven’t used this since the heian era!”
Honestly, as far as we know about Sukuna, its a toss up. Like we know Sukuna has more tools up his sleeve but what he currently shows doesn't really give him much of an advantage.
Are we just going to ignore the fact that the gun devil travelled the world in a couple seconds? that kinda semi light speed feat dude. The gun devil would just bliz Sukuna in a fight.
That's travel speed, those passives shots were most of the damage
In 5 minutes, guns devil minimal speed is around 400 machs which is still hundreds time faster than JJK mach 3 speed.
Man I love these videos…oh you thought I meant vs videos? No I’m talking about sukuna videos 👀😈
Sukuna still hasn’t revealed his full power. As of now, he gets scooped so quick we won’t be able to react to the gun devil
gun devil technically hasn't either that big gun devil isn't his full power its under like 50 percent.
@@yopoodah5090 more like 20 percent
The gun devil can spot things from 500 kilometers away, not 500 meters lol. 500 kilometers is 500,000 meters
Ah, my anti-Gun Devil technique. Haven't used it since the Meiji Restoration.
I think this is a fair assessment considering the gun devil has aim assist & wall hacks
We'll never be free of aim assist & wall hacks
@@NoOperatorumm I have an opinion . Buddy . What if sukuna use menovalent shrine and cut all bullets coming towards him and wait for gun devil to come near him .
@@abhijeetgolder7535 the bullets r too fast. These r not normal bullets. Gun Devil is hacking
@@abhijeetgolder7535none, this is the same Gun devil that killed thousands of people across the globe in less than a second, and this isn't even it's full power under War when they fought Chainsaw man in hell, JJK has no speed feat like that.
@@abhijeetgolder7535 Why would the gun devil do that. This is some cope ngl
When this video was made the gun devil would probably win, but now Sukuna wins.
its 20 percent gun devil tho i doubt 20 fingers sukuna can kill 100 percent gun devil
20% still wins
I mean makimas attack was all wielding angel devil's weapons as well along with the combined abilities of pretty strong fears it's safe to assume that it just got outclassed by makima (being a stronger devil as well)
With the infos we got on sukuna now i feel like a part 2 of this video would be cool
The new "space cleave" ability from the Jjk Manga *COULD* do something.
Sukuna: "i'm the king of cur-"
Gun devil: "I GOT A GLOCK IN MY RARI"
Sukuna is a beast in jjk there’s no doubt about that man, but he def getting his ass ate with maximum efficiency by the gun devil. Also remember that the gun devil wasn’t even at his full strength when he did all that crazy shit.
Recent chapters show that sukuna can easily take out the gun devil with his shadows or true form Heian era sukuna can just use World Cleave
sukuna also dodged electromagnetic waves LMAO. A bullet would be easily dodged
fr mate @@bruh-nq5px
How so? the gun devil could easily keep distance and well we are not shown any prove world slash has unlimited range (also no it getting thorough infinity dose not count since since he slashed the "space")
@@sanicinapanic4264sukuna can literally just summon his domain to eliminate all/most of the bullets coming at him, then he will just take the wheel from mahoraga and tank some bullet hits and then summon an already adapted mahoraga and its game over for the gun devil. Sukuna can also just hide in the shadows while mahoraga does its thing LMAO and if u think mahoraga cant get close to the gun devil you are hella wrong cuz mahoraga would just adapt to that as well and once mahoraga gets close to the gun devil its just game over, sukuna doesnt even need to come out of the shadows anymore
sukuna is probably gonna get some new feats within the next couple days in his fight with yoruzu or whatever her name is
20f Sukuna vs the Gun Devil would be a much fairer match 😅
To talk about Gojo and Sukuna's speed I must talk about all of the following, since they have different feats of movement speed, reaction speed and mental speed (VERY DIFFERENT THINGS)
*First Case: (maki's movement speed)
-Maki with the 3-6 mach, but this was revealed to be due to a mental block of hers, so she must be superior, and we know that Gojo reached much further than Naobito himself, so Gojo speculatively must be between 12 at 16 mach in movement, and instantaneous if he uses blue to teleport (attracting the distance between him and his destination)
*Second case: (reaction speed of gojo and sukuna)
-sukuna with kashimo: lightning travels at mach 291.54519 (360,000 km/h) here we have the second measurement for the REACTION speed of gojo and sukuna
*Third case: (speed of mental agility): super bright, and I'm not exaggerating, look.
Hollow purple (gojo and sukuna reaction speed)
-For imaginary mass (what hollow purple is) It is a concept of a mass that, for example, can do things like exceed the speed of light. Hypothetical particle with a spatial type quadrimomentum. This implies that if its energy and momentum are real, its apparent conventional rest mass would be an imaginary number. So the (pseudo) Minkowski norm of its quadrimomentum would be negative.
The existence of such a particle is a sign of the instability of the space-time vacuum, because the energy of the vacuum has a maximum instead of a minimum.
Based on these particles in our universe, they would even destabilize the space-time universe by breaking its rules, and would exceed the speed of light. Having an amount of energy that is unattainable in our universe
Creating imaginary mass literally disrupts the principle of chance.
Theoretical particles such as tachyons, which are the imaginary mass par excellence, are based on this.
(For example in tachyons) The proper time that a tachyon experiences is also imaginary. A curious effect is that unlike real particles, the speed of a tachyon increases as its energy decreases. This is a consequence of special relativity because, hypothetically, a tachyon has negative square mass. According to Einstein, the total energy of a particle is the rest mass m times the speed of light squared and multiplied in turn by the Lorentz factor, that is, the total energy is given by another formula
For ordinary matter, the equation shows that E increases with velocity, becoming infinite as v (velocity) approaches c, the speed of light. If m is imaginary, on the other hand, the denominator of the fraction needs to be imaginary to keep the energy a real number. The denominator would be imaginary if the number in the square root is negative, which only happens if v is greater than c.
How is this possible for gojo to control? The 6 eyes, thanks to this he was able to plan to make an expansion of 0.02 seconds in Shibuya, because of these 6 eyes that as soon as he left his prison he was able to assimilate so much information in seconds, and because of these 6 eyes that is his mental agility is so big
*So*
*Gojo and sukuna's travel speed: 12-16 mach, instantaneous if we count gojo's teleportation, but it's a cheat
*Reaction speed of gojo and sukuna: between (360,000 km/h)
*Mental speed, at least from Gojo: about light
While I'm unsure if the gun devils bullets are stronger than normal human ones we have a direct scale for bullets vs sorcerers with Haba who couldn't even be pierced by 50 caliber rounds and he's only an estimated semi grade 1. If the gun devils bullets are normal human bullets Sukuna won't even be hurt by the bullets hitting him and he could walk right through and cast DE.
Except gun devil bullets we’re destroying cities in less than 20 seconds it’s fair to say they were bigger and more lethal than the strongest artillery in the real world
Nah they ain’t normal. In the Manga it shows how many seconds
were passing and they were two panels between 3:18:25 and 3:18:26
The gun devil started firing on the second panel and in the next page it already reached Makima who was roughly 500 kilometres away.
I don’t think normal bullets can cross an entire country in a literal split second.
The way the bullets absolutely destroyed the landscape leads me to think that's they're stronger than even a 50 caliber. A bullet has to be able to withstand the velocity.
They aren't anywhere close to normal, tho he can choose to fire normal ones
Akis house was obliterated by an singular stray bullet.
Just started, but i know this is a Banger!!!
After watching this makes me imagine the suprise we'd have if Sukunas barrierless domain comes with the ability to move his domains centre away from him and to his enemy like a homing system
Thank you for watching!!
@@NoOperator
Can you make a makima vs gojo detailed video
@@NoOperatorGun Devil Vs Current Sukuna?
1:11 felt personal when you said. But since it's sukuna I agree with you
My ass really thought he called the gun devil a "class cannon" instead of "glass cannon".
Mommy chimera beast and Daddy Mahoraga got Childkuna’s back, once Mahoraga whips the belt out it’s a neg diff.
I think if sukuna gets head shot assuming that his reverse curse technique is the same as other sorcerers he loses but if he gets off his domain then I don’t think any of the gun devils bullets are hitting him since he can auto target them and cleave his way through the gun devil
Would love to see a JJK vs Yu Yu hakusho video in the future. Keep up the good work my guy.
Hmmm I agree with everything in this video unless you consider CE reinforcement to deflect the bullets (assuming they are normal bullets of course)
"Ah yes my anti gun devil technique, haven't used it since the heian era"
I’m sure I’m the manga I saw Gojo blow off half of Sukuna’s head and he healed it just fine💀
Just out of curiosity, is it possible for Sukuna to surround himself with Malevolent Shrine to slice apart the a Gun Devil's projectiles and slip within range of the Gun Devil to deliver a single massive counter attack?
Couldn’t Sukuna adapt his cleave and dismantle to cut the bullets?
this was made b4 that chapter, but yuh.
@@Aquadadragon I see
how long he can keep up the domain and reach to gun devil 500km range,sakuna domain only on 200m range
@@sorrybroo8303sukuna can literally just summon his domain to eliminate all/most of the bullets coming at him, then he will just take the wheel from mahoraga and tank some bullet hits and then summon an already adapted mahoraga and its game over for the gun devil. Sukuna can also just hide in the shadows while mahoraga does its thing LMAO and if u think mahoraga cant get close to the gun devil you are hella wrong cuz mahoraga would just adapt to that as well and once mahoraga gets close to the gun devil its just game over, sukuna doesnt even need to come out of the shadows anymore
Imagine juiced up mahoraga vs gun devil.
What gun devil?
man said god forbid he doesnt get shot
Most people forget but this is 75% sukuna vs 15~20% gun devil so yeah gun devil on top
Only in travel speed.
The Gun Devil did kinda like... Wipe out LOOOOTTTTS of people in the span of 5 minutes compared to Sukuna poofing away only Shibuya.
I think people are actively forgetting this feat on purpose cause it is a real game changer
Those are regular people though. Ya think Sukuna can dodge bullets or even better heal from bullets?
@@UnifiedEntity have you seen the gun devils bullets? I mean he can fire normal ones for piss and giggles but like for most of the manga makes it clear why he's an analogy for nuclear weaponry
@@victorkaranja1420 have you seen jujutsu sorcerers resistance to bullets? Carpet bombing brigades may not take out most special grade curses, let alone sorcerers. I’m pretty sure these bullets are not carpet bombs.
@@totalhufflepuff203resist to 1000km bullet travel?😂sure mate
The Gun Devil has feats that scale above pretty much anything we've seen from the JJK verse so I think it for sure wins
Guess you didnt hear about the black hole
@@mugetsusaki2822 mind I ask how exactly Tengen stopped it? And how “Yūki’s will” stopped it as well?
@jackaboy naylor Them stopping an actual black hole only speaks about their feats being above the gun devil's feats. I dont think anything that devil has, he could stand up against a black hole. While tengen barriers and will power was enough to keep its effects supressed as to not destroy earth and possibly the entire solar system
@@jackaboynaylor9273 yuki partly contained it so it didn’t ya know destroy way more
@@No-kw9wu yeah but how exactly. She was like already in dead when it consumed her so I’m like how would that work? And Tengen used his barrier to stop it but like how? What did you do with it?
I would imagine depending on what they did to stop it could effect how they scale to the black hole.
If sukuna was to faced against 100% gun devil then he will lose surely as it took many devil contracts for to defeat the 20% of gun devil.
I don’t think it’s even said the exact % the gun was, especially with how Makima was threatening the entire world it’s hard too say how many people actually gave there piece’s back.
@@explosivegrape it was the 20% in the possession of America.
@@explosivegrape it was 20% of the full devil
@@explosivegrapeit already say in manga panel 20%
@@IqbalEvolusi remind me when?
i finally get why the gun devil's abilities only "target" adult men and children 0-12
Damn First, Great video very interesting you should keep up versus battles across different mangas
We need to see more of Sukuna specially now that he has 10 shadows.
We don't know what Sukuna's actual ability is at this point. The writer is keeping us completely in the dark up to this point. He can't be the most powerful being Kenjaku has ever seen with just cleave, dismantle and that fiery arrow thing. We just know the ability is called The Shrine and that's about all we know so far.
You should update this Sukuna is more busted now than in Shibuya. Mahoragas wheel would make him immune to any attack he can survive and with the ten shadows he’s a multitool
Mahoraga still needs to be exposed to the gun devil to adapt, before mahoraga can even turn its wheel, roughly 8,500 bullets is flying towards him and sukuna at hypersonic speed 500 km away
@@Icantcomeupofanamewouldn't the Gun Devil just be able to delete Maho in a few seconds anyway? Sukuna destroyed it in Shibuya with his Domain and we've seen the Gun Devil be able to output more destructive attacks at a faster rate so wouldn't summoning Mahoraga against the Gun Devil be pointless?
Sukuna could literally just take the wheel and tank a few bullet hits from the gun devil and mahoraga would be able to adapt that way. Plus, bullets are way too easy to adapt to, just like slashing attacks thats why mahoraga was able to adapt in just a few wheel spins and it could regenerate its disintegrated body and tank sukuna's domain before sukuna unleashed another move that isnt a slashing technique which is the flaming arrow @@Subpar1O1
"My anti-gun technique... haven't used this once since the Heian era"
Bro literally forgot that cursed energy can be used defensively.
The ability to fire a bullet through the head of an adult male is confusing, because if i remember right in the culling games the soldiers were using bullets and they said it wasnt working on someone like helicopter head. Sukuna has way higher stats then him so whos to say that sukuna couldnt just eat the bullet on top of the fact that we have seen maki catch a bullet and sukuna is faster then that maki. It does say that it will go through the head though which to me sounds exactly like a sure hit attack. Its really just up to if people think sukuna could tank the gun devils bullets or not.
Do you think bullets from some normal guns are the same as the bullets from the gun devil?!? Bruh.
@@jackaboynaylor9273 the instant shot attacks look pretty normal, especially the heart shots, they just look like normal bullets on hit. They dont rip through them like the ones the devil actually chooses to shoot. I'm more or less arguing the lethality of the instant hit, not the bullets the gun devil chooses to fire.
@@SoulofSquibs I see.
I just be seeing all these people who think it’s bullets are as fast as normal ones and it’s absurd how many people do be saying that.
Also like to mention that the dude messed up the distance saying 500 metres instead of kilometres which is literally a thousand times smaller and massively downplays the guns range and speed.
@@jackaboynaylor9273 Yeah I've read the manga twice, the gun devil aint someone to down play and I had the same reaction as you when he messed up the 500 kilometers range. Which now thinking about it the gun devil could just 360 no scope sukuna from 500 km away.
@@SoulofSquibs I have a theory why the the bullets were not that destructive it because of the nuclear weapons devil being eaten which causes all man made weaponry to not reach the level of a nuke
Before watching, I say yes. His domain expansion could probably hack away at the gun devil quite well. He just needs to use RCT for the damage he takes from the bullets.
Nah the speed and power difference between the gun devil bullets and sukunas slashes is too large. Sukuna needed a ton of slashes over the course of about 30 seconds to 1 minute to destroy an entire city block. Whereas the gun devil at just 20% of his power did the same in about 2 seconds. And sukunas range is only 200m whereas the gun devils range is kilometers away
His domian wouldnt even reach him
The gun devil can shoot 500 km away in seconds, so theyre hypersonic in nature, and gun devil being able to shoot 1.2 million bullets in 5 minutes is killing sukuna before he can use rct
I might have missed some info in the video, but I'm JJk you have people in the second arc reacting to a catching bullets (this is a pre-power up maki) this character at this time in the story is weaker and slower than 15 finger sukana. So shouldn't sukana theoretically be able to catch or at least react to the gun devils bullets (please let me know if i miss something saying the gun devils bullets are faster than normal bullets)
Maki reacted and caught Mai RUBBER BULLETS.
RUBBER BULLETS doesn't move at the same speed as normal guns bullets.
Rubber bullets speed is SUBSONIC.
normal GUN BULLETS speed are SUPERSONIC to HYPERSONIC.
Gun Devil bullets are supernatural, it moves at MHS+ in Gun Devil Arc, and can destroy multiple land areas all over the Earth in seconds of different countries.
Gun Devil speed is faster than This version of Sukuna.
Only Sukuna with 4 arms is relative to Gun Devil 100% speed
@@chiaki.hayakawa18Gun devils speed is nowhere near sukuna lmao
Though jjk characters fail in travel speed,, their reflexes and combat speed makes up for it
I dont see a reason why sukuna wouldnt just fly to gun devil while dodgjng all the bullets lmfao
Especially with the newer kashimo vs sukuna fight, sukuna speed scales massively above gun devil
Not to mention, he has survived a literal phase paramita holllw purple and a 200% hollow purple at the start which both outscale any chainsawman ap feats lmao
Headshot is the only argument and to be honest, gojo and sukuna were destroying their brains and reconstructing them within the blink of an eye constantly for rct
It wouldnt even come to that lol, sukuna would just dodge
@@gpavitra85 Uhh yes it is the gun devil was moving all around the word take in mind its attack only lasted for 5 minutes also the head shot arugment dose work considering they were only destroying a PART of there brain
@@sanicinapanic4264 First of all, no its bullets did, second of all, Sukuna simply weaves 🤷♂️
Now sukuna has maharaga
If he can have a domain of of ten shadow then he can summon multiple maharaga
With adaptibility
He will win for sure
nuh uh
I don't know about durability, since we aren't sure about how strong Makima's combined move is, we do know that her hax are more op/devastating then her strength as she states is herself meaning the gun devil could definitely take an attack of multiple buildings at minimum, but Makima's abilities are basically just unknown except for like 1 or 2
GUN DEVIL at 20% power ATTACK POTENCY is City lvl and we all should know that AP is equal to Durability.
If you punch a wall and break it, you should be able to tanked many wall lvl brute strength.
So GUN DEVIL 20% Durability is City lvl and Makima combined attack, that was able to defeat Gun Devil is also City lvl.
@@chiaki.hayakawa18 ap is = to durability? I guess it makes sense, but Makima's punches was estimated to be around building strength and I guess your right, so Makima's attack was city lvl?
@@H4kuii Makima punches can hurt nerfed Pochita/Denji, who have large town lvl durability.
At the start of the series, Denji was able to tanked a Bat Devil blast, that destroyed 6 buildings and it was calculated to multi city block lvl.
Denji got stronger and he's relative to hybrid form Quanxi, who is large town lvl.
Last fight of CSM Part 1.
Makima combined hax was able to hurt Gun Devil 20%, Who's city lvl.
@@chiaki.hayakawa18 OHH THAT MAKES SENSE. But ik that combined ability wasn't strength, but Makima definitely has city block strength or multi building strength
@@chiaki.hayakawa18 Ap does not really mean durability.
Example, Goku cannot tank his own Kamahame wave at full power
It would be cool to put up gojo or sukuna against the darkness devil as all of them are beings that are beyond comprehension currently tho the darkness devil might just win.
One world slash and that mf is dead sukuna wins
L u illiterate kid
Lol, this is someone from the future. Sukuna got his original body back and is more powerful than anyone thought originally
Editing on this is insane bro
tbf with what has been showed before, yes sukuna loses, but we have never actually seen him ever even use his cursed technique, let alone actually try, so it's hard to say for sure, he can then again hes also stated to be able to tank that big ass meteor, saying it would do some damage if it hit, but not kill him. i personally believe if both at full power sukuna would win but that could very well be bias
I think that if Sukuna spam his domain in order to cut the gun devil bullets until he get into range to use it against the gun devil he could stand a chance. I mean thinking about the whole domain fight with Gojo i think he can make quick succesion use of domain and thanks to the range of his domain and is overall speed it could give Sukuna a fair chance. Correct me if i'm wrong.
Yeah the fight with Gojo/Kashimo kinda flipped this whole entire verdict on his head, considering sukunas FTL speed feats in his Heian Era form and his sheer knack to think of new abilities on the fly.
@@hennytopherno FTL, not even close
Kashimo's Amber Dragon ability is stated to use EM waves to attack. EM waves = is literally light in their transmission. Meguna wasn't able to react to these until he popped his special healing to go into his form, then waffled kashimo. So yes, Sukuna is Around 1.5-2x FTL.@@nurnebo
and you think gun devil would just let sukuna get close enough to him to activate his domain expansion? 20 percent gun devil is far faster than sukuna even if sukuna got close and activated his domain gun devil can literally just escape in sukunas domain range because hes too fast
Oh god we have ASCENDED as a fandom. We're finally getting those "can ___ beat goku" type videos. I'm so here for it
Lol
sukuna can heal him self with the reindeer AND reversed cursed energy plus he can use mahoraga as wall for adapting to the damages and launch at the same time cleave or dismantle
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Chainsaw chapter 76 if I remember correctly:
3:18:23
"Makima acknowledges the gun devil at a distance of 500km"
3:18:25
"The gun devil stands still"
3:18:26
"Makima prepares her ability"
"Makima's 29th death is observed"
So in less than around one second the bullet travel 500km putting it around mach 1470. The destruction caused by the gun devils's 26 seconds in Japan was calced at large city level.
Now first you would need to prove sukuna can survive a constant amount of bullets that would be trying to kill him due to him entering 1000 m of the gun devil, than you would need to explain how he could react to bullets moving mach 1470, than you would need to argue how many large city level attacks before sukuna runs out of cursed energy, than argue how sukuna can match the speed of the gun devil that can travel from nation to nation in a extremely short amount fo time, then argue how he can close the distance while dealing with constant gun fire, then argue that the gun devil couldn't dodge these attacks, then argue the gun devils durability, then you get sukuna's win con
w, gun 360 no scopes
know that this is not related but can Sukuna take down Darth Sidious from Star Wars?🤔😅
I always found it interesting That in chainsaw man Devils tend to be ridiculously powerful especially at higher leve like like taking on entire cities kind of powerful But the double hunters are arguably pretty weak in comparison. On the flip side JJ k's Curse spirits seem to be pretty equal with the source or is they fight at least for the most part.
? Most devils aren’t ridiculously strong and there’s multiple super strong devil hunter like
Quanxi
Kishibe
Yoshida
Denji
Aki
and Makima.
@@jackaboynaylor9273 Yeah But as far as we know currently in there is yet to be a devil hunter that could have defeated the gun devil or The darkness devil or even the control devil. Wallen JJK there is multiple high level Sorcerers that can give The strongest of cursed spirits are run for their money and even defeat some of them. In chainsaw man The only ones who could defeat high level devils were devils themselves and technically I don't count Denji as a devil hunter as much as a devil himself.
In JJK The humans Are pretty even if not stronger overall than the Curse spirits But in chainsaw man The only advantage humans have it's the fact that not all Devils or as cruel as others and are willing to help without the aid of devil's humanity would have been wiped out and/or nearly extinct by this point the story. The devils and transfer man are treated more with a Is cosmic horror feel Then the Spirits in JJK
@@DrGreen-oo3ei you know Makima is considered a devil hunter right?
@@jackaboynaylor9273 Have you finished the series? I don't want to spoil anything for you if you haven't.
@@DrGreen-oo3ei I'm pretty sure you're talking about city destroying feats which is fair but, Think about it like tis devils in csm don't care about area damage only death while devil hunters have to care so we aren't likely to see city busting feats from devil hunters even if they can kill devils. It doesn't mean they can't do it just they won't because that'll be against their job.
"Can this asshole bring a knife to a gunfight and win?"
Not gonna lie, that caught me off-guard.
Also, seeing as you're doing crossverse debates, I wouldn't mind you doing some debating to do with Holo-Chronicles (ultra-cool Hololive fan series that most certainly deserves more love). Heck, I could even help you out with that stuff, if you need that.
We JJK fans be eating good lately
This aged like milk
Also you think bullets are strong enough to go through Sukana?
The Gun Devil's individual bullets vary wildly in power, some destroy whole city blocks while some are pinpoint bullets
Also yes Sukuna is not surviving 10k bullets to his body lol
@@terminalius 1 sukuna can just dodge the bullets(dodging≠missing)
2 the reason why the bullets can destroy buildings is because there are so many of them
@@JBvideos87483 Sukuna isn't dodging hundreds of thousands of rounds in one second ☠️ And regardless, Sukuna can't tag GD. It far outranges him and is faster than him, what is Sukuna gonna do when GD opens fire on him from 500 km away with thousands of rounds which are far faster than real bullets?
And the Gun Fiend's individual bullets were levelling city blocks when he fought Denji, the near death weaker version of GD
@@terminalius Ik he isn’t dodging all of them but he is dodging most of them and every time the gun devil fires the bullets he is stunned for a little bit
Why can't Sukuna use Simple Domain to automatically Cleave any bullet that comes his way while he flies towards his goal? Or, hell, just use his own senses.
fair but in 5 minutes the gun devil traveled across the world killing 1.2 million people in the process he's fast enough to just move yk... and aim better...
Assuming he can do this, domains can only last so long. The speed at which the gun devils bullets have been calc are much faster than sukuna has shown to be able to go and it's range is much much larger. Ino it's only a matter of time before sukuna just gets ripped apart by these bullets
@@virginoverlord238 If we're talking calcs, Sukuna also has been calced to having higher AP and Durability than Gun Devil thanks to Jougo meteor shenanigans.
@@AR15ORIGINAL what have calcs put sukuna based off the meteor feat at in terms of durability? Because 26 seconds of the gun devil is calced at high city level and this is while aiming to kill specific people not aiming to cause destruction
@@virginoverlord238
Gun Devil is calced at large town level, not high city level
Coffin of The Iron Mountain is large mountain level, meanwhile base Jougo (a curse which Sukuna treats as cannon fodder) is low end city level. Sukuna also scales to Satoru, who is large mountain level with Purple.
Sukuna himself is estimated to be "at least low city level, probably higher" at base, with large mountain/small island level Malevolent Shrine.
I personally estimate that Sukuna would be taking chip damage from these large town level bullets. He can regenerate from that indefinitely.
You need to go redo this video because sukuna stomps gun devil and this is why I be telling you to wait before you do theses type of matches because sukuna literally was able to take two hollow purples and cut through space and the world itself so yeah sukuna win this
Both required him using Domain Amp or he doged (I gotta re read) and plus the gun devil is still faster
sukuna got violated so hard the youtuber changed the video for him💀
My guy I need you to do a video about Gojo vs Makima I would love to see your take on the discussion
Sukuna can know cut through space and reality so he probably wins
He would win without that ability honestly based on intellect
they’d prolly become friends and have a competition on how many people they can kill lmfao
heian era sukuna slaps hun devil
Gun devil still snipes and are we forgetting we only saw 20% power gun devil?
technically if sukuna had the shrine open, then any bullets that cane towards him would be dismantled before they reached him. and another thing, maki had feats of percieving movement speed over 3700km/h and sukuna being relative to maki physically we can presume that a bullet travelling 3000 km/h can be percieved some what easily.
The thing is the gun devils bullet was able to travel country to country in seconds, implying its not regular bullet speed
The gun devil was able to shoot someone in less than half a second from over 200k away. The speed on this thing is far above stuff like lightning.
Sukuna massively out speeds maki who caught a bullet that was like an inch from her face IN THE WEAKEST FORM WE'VE SEEN HER
Sukuna easily dodges the bullets or they get cut by malevolent shrine
...the bullet Maki caught was a normal bullet (10 machs).
The Gun Devil bullets reach 500 kilometer in only 1 second (+1000 machs).
15 Finger Sukuna (The Sukuna used here) can get hit by a 200 mach Yuji and Awaken Maki.
@@ranmoses2553Sukuna easily wins in megumi's body tho since sukuna can literally just summon his domain to eliminate all/most of the bullets coming at him, then he will just take the wheel from mahoraga and tank some bullet hits and then summon an already adapted mahoraga and its game over for the gun devil. Sukuna can also just hide in the shadows while mahoraga does its thing LMAO
@@jamesescondo708 Sukuna in Megumi body is light speed he won't even need domain or Mahoraga to beat the 20% gun devil
@@ranmoses2553 for sure, but still pointing it out just in case these csm fans still wants to argue about it
its funny watching this video now as sukuna withstood a hollow purple, multiple hits from hajime under his technique form as well as being able to completely revive using his true form, I don't think the gun devil stands a chance as even without being able to use his domain expansion he could cleave the gun devil in half with strong dismantle.
And how would sukuna even catch up to the gun devil??
Also sukuna has city level durability the gun devil can easily destroy city
😂 nc try buddy but there's no way sukuna would even touch the gun devil 😂
nice try you sukuna illiterate meatrider
@@klyzer5725sukuna can literally just summon his domain to eliminate all/most of the bullets coming at him, then he will just take the wheel from mahoraga and tank some bullet hits and then summon an already adapted mahoraga and its game over for the gun devil. Sukuna can also just hide in the shadows while mahoraga does its thing LMAO