Facts but that girl in the white all she wanted to do is disagree with everything my point is why have deez convo with air headed women they can't handle the truth, can't have a convo without thinking someone talking about them on top can't have a convo without getting emotional attach
I like the woman in black approach. Her questions are direct and straight forward. She is forcing the woman she is interviewing to be as transparent as possible
The woman on the right is the young chick that hasnt realized we shouldnt be in competition and its not a sprint its a marathon. The woman on the left is the experienced lady that understands that its a team game and stopped running to allow herself to be caught.
Women ask men "what do you do for a living" all the time as a way to figure out how much money he makes. Men asking women what they bring to the table is men's version of that. If men can't get mad about women asking what they make then women shouldn't get mad when men ask what they bring.
It's honestly interesting and amazing watching Holiday and Rico's evolution over the last 2 years of me watching 8 @ the Table. Kudos to both of them. I attribute the change to their success in relationships. It's opened their eyes to see a bigger picture.
Experience has taught this young Lady a great deal of wisdom. You definitely need another outlet/podcast to share your personal point of view and knowledge that you've learned
The interviewer messed up at the end saying that you should “get it out of your system” before marriage. That just means more men you will compare your husband to and you’ll be unhappy in the long run. The CDC conducted a study and the results were the more sexual partners a woman has, the chance of satisfaction in a marriage decreases.
Downplaying or holding other women accountable ? Women need to stop being scared of being real and standing in truth. If not most women will be easily influenced by the same women that were easily influenced by others. Black women should talk seriously and reason situations instead of just k ocking everything men do because another female been through that. Take time and self check and hope you have friends solid enough to call you out on your bs.
@@plannerist good points I'm glad you read my comment. I didnt make it just for likes or for a man to agree its because I believe in order to have healthy conversations (women to women). We also have to listen and not just talk. Hows your day been😊
@@pipedreamism1 read the comment as a whole and not just part of it. Because we as women we're so used to tearing each other down(which divides us not unite us) that we really don't truly listen to each other. Having healthy conversations is important no matter what you believe. (The same goes for a man having a conversation with another man with two different viewpoints). Hope you had a good day handsome😉
I’m a give y’all ladies a secret. The quickest to lose a man’s interest in you to start talking about energy, Manifesting and astrologies. That is basically saying to a man “i don’t have any control over actions and i therefore use these things to justify my behavior”…..that shiddd is the biggest turn off to men.
0:10 Like when men say “what do you bring to the table” Bird Brain: You wouldn’t get offended by that question? 🤦🏾♂️Why tf would anyone get offended by that question unless they know they bring little if anything of value to a relationship.
I see tinker bells perspective and agree with some of what she was trying to explain. She seems to have been in therapy and done the work and now knows her worth and not willing to settle. Being submissive goes both ways in a relationship. Both parties has to be willing to do the work to keep a relationship healthy and thriving. I know this because I show up daily in my marriage. Been with my husband for 21 yrs as of this month and married 12 yrs! We’re constantly learning and growing and in therapy working on our individual selves as well as a collective unit.
Agree w/ beige top in saying that you need time to heal between REAL relationships Also agree w/ Holiday with the friend talk. I don't sleep with my real male friends PERIOD! Stop saying everyone is your friend. They aren't! That's just a friendly ass person. An associate at best. Disagree w/ Holiday about the cheating, but let me only speak for me. I've never ever cheated on anyone I was in a relationship with. I don't play these types of games and I'molder than both of them. If I'm with you I'm you. She's literally telling these women to go be hoes. I'm just gonna say this doesn't apply to me. Someone cheating on you is 1000% disrespectful. I'm shook she wven asked that question 🤦🏾♀️
I think the lady in the black and white should let the other lady speak and learn to listen. She’s cutting off the lady in the beige shirt. I think the clarity of this conversation should of been giving in the beginning of the interview. Are we speaking about just relationships or marriage? Because the terms are definitely different
Lol my ex did everything i told her to do with her education after the fact we broke up and the reason we broke up is because we argued about her going to the wrong school and degree… who was right at the end???🙃 #accountability
This chic on the right is the quintessential modern feminist that’s been ran thru… Never commit to these types of women. Run some game, have some fun for a few months then move on….or don’t take the chance and just leave them be…
Then she *SAYS* job interview... Yeah, that's why ppl keep failing. They pull up with a resume instead of being who they are and seeing if there's chemistry beyond what either person "brings 2 the table". If u really care about someone cuz Y'all vibe heavy, whatever somebody *DON'T* bring 2 the table that u need, they'll find a way 2.
The young lady in the white sweater has no clue what a real man should be. A real man about his purpose and is a top earner will not deal with you long term . This young lady is fighting the natural order that GOD setup.
I was with black dress on most things but not the sewing other men while being a girlfriend . Men use that time to see if you even capable of being loyal to him
Over complicating this sh1t. When dealing with a man that lots of other women would want? You can't make him wait in the friendzone. He got options he will move on to. On date 2 at the latest. Have sex, then immediately begin to add value to his life outside of sex. Even if it's a simple as tidying up and cooking breakfast in the morn. So few women are doing that today. That just could have him wanting to keep you around. The only woman that can make a man like that wait? Is a virgin or very sexually inexperienced woman. You can't have been out in these streets trying to make a desirable man work his way out the friendzone
An Alph female is a lesbian. Lesbian date women they don't date men. When women start talking that alpha female talk right away you know she is bi or dealing with women. If women would stick to the script and only date men their wouldn't be this gender confusion. A man shouldn't have to be extra aggressive because a woman can't control her behavior. The problem isn't that men aren't masculinity enough the problem is that women don't want to be submissive. As little girls they don't respect their father. He say I want you in the house at this time. "Why I gotta come in at this time johnny don't gotta come in that time that's not fair." Meanwhile, the news has been talking about a serial rapist snatching females. Women need to learn to have respect for authority. Your father has the right to tell you what to do until you get married than your husband takes on that role. A husband has the right to tell his wife what time he wants her in the house. The bible says a husband is the law of his wife. A husband's decision is the final say. father says to his daughter don't date so and so. She responds you can't tell me who I should date. Meanwhile, when the guy she chose starts busting her upside the head who is the first person that she calls her father, her brother or her uncle's but if she would have been submissive she wouldn't have put the men in her family in a violent situation. It was a reason why your father said leave that man alone. Maybe he realized that if this relationship turns sour I might have to go ahead to head with this man and I don't think I can take him. Men see the full picture while women only see 30% of the picture. If women would learn to respect their father, grand father, uncle or whatever male taking the lead in their family they would improve their chance of success in a relationship dramatically.
14 minutes and 30 seconds in and the one question I have because they usually contradict themselves. The one question I have is why would you want to be an alpha female and at the same time not want to attract men that have mommy issues? That's a contradiction in itself because a man that had an alpha mother is going to be looking for an alpha female. He's going to be looking for a woman to safeguard him you should be fine with that and if not there's some things you probably need to change.
A man cheating isn't that he doesn't respect you. A man shows lack of respect when he can provide and provision for a woman but doesn't . That's disrespect , not acting on my hormones and keeping those acts away from you
I was kinda givin' shorty the benefit of the doubt until she started dismissing the concept of friendship. That's literally what companionship is. The only difference she seems 2 see is whether or not the 2 ppl have sex. In that case, u're not in the market 4 a companion, u're just lookin 4 a job as a wifey. Shit ain't goin nowhere if u can't have a foundation in friendship. That's why ppl fail.
Men ask that question are trying to be arrogant and reduce you down to nothing. Men already know what they want from women and what attracted him in the first place only men who are toxic as that question. He will slowly see what he likes or dislikes about you.
christ for one, the man she wants arent going to take a bottle girl serious, number two she can't accept that what she wants to bring to a man is not what men want cause all i hear is equal equal equal, WE AINT EQUAL FFS
Why does white shirt keep making up these disingenuous scenario's, why not go in with best possible scenario instead of worst possible scenario. it seems like you're going into a relationship expecting it to fail instead of expecting it to work. Holiday actually makes sense. White shirt is talking word salad. This woman, watch her actions not her words. Also, this woman will argue for the need to be right always.
Something's off. Maybe it's s bit of knowledge she still lacks or she got the therapy and has grown but still mentally holds bad ideologies that could still hurt her in the long run. Like the male friend thing. If the guy likes you, then you need to recognize that and while you get to know him, understand his intentions are a relationship. Which means he isn't just a friend. So move accordingly. And that starts with treating that guy as if he is a prospect from point A to point Z of you guys relationship. Running with the mentality of we are just friends is dangerous
The days are over when women only had to bring good looks, coochie, cooking, and cleaning to the table more is needed like being fit, feminine, friendly, cooperative, willing to let a man lead, unselfishness, and a submissive woman
sounds like you want to go back to how women are naturally, how we have always been before the last few generations of ratchetness took over. that happened and people forgot about most of our mothers and most of the grandmothers. (as I got older I did learn that there were bad mothers who have scarred tf out of a lot of the "men" we come across nowadays, smh) what your talking about has been here for centuries, women are naturally submissive, feminine, friendly, cooperative, following a MAN, unselfishly. this woman needs to be supported because she will (most likely) naturally want to raise a wholistic family meaning she will need time and good health in order to breastfeed your babies and maybe homeschool your children if that's what you all choose, those type of things are naturally feminine . women are nurturers and teachers by nature
13:19 Women have no idea about what it means to be submissive. The executive producer in a movie example isn't a submissive job. Now, if you are the person that cleans up the snack table on a movie set now that's a submissive role. Women talk about being submissive in relationship but they have no intentions of taking the back seat in a relationship. Women be talking just to talk. Watching these females conversate is like watching two Chihuahua bark at each other at the dog park. They were both contradicting theirselves in the first 15 mins.
That's the worst belief, older men prey on younger women. I'm 12 years older than my woman meet her when she was 19 and I was 31. Young women seek older men and when it's right they love it for the stability 37 now and two kids in waiting for the right time for marriage
She was probably looking for a father figure 😂 When we say we want older men it means like 2-7 years older, maybe 10 years but anything over that is for women with daddy issues or sugar babies
Not even interested in this video, the first thing she do is blame the men & say they have mommy issues 🤔, Foh its like 304’s say the same things over and over to avoid accountability.
Black dress needs her own channel if she doesn’t . Almost refreshing to hear a women that isn’t still stuck in with a young woman’s mentality.
This is what men mean when we say women need to hold other women accountable.
Facts
Facts but that girl in the white all she wanted to do is disagree with everything my point is why have deez convo with air headed women they can't handle the truth, can't have a convo without thinking someone talking about them on top can't have a convo without getting emotional attach
It happens just not on social media
I agree with black dress 100%. She is very experienced and straight to the point. Love it!
Lady in the black outfit speaking Truth that women don't wanna hear.
I like the woman in black approach. Her questions are direct and straight forward. She is forcing the woman she is interviewing to be as transparent as possible
Holiday a real one she didnt let none of the foolishness breeze by
The woman on the right is the young chick that hasnt realized we shouldnt be in competition and its not a sprint its a marathon. The woman on the left is the experienced lady that understands that its a team game and stopped running to allow herself to be caught.
I love how black dress is asking st8 questions cutting through the bs. She needs her own show.
Holiday is spitting that 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 some real down to earth sensible knowledge on relationships
Women ask men "what do you do for a living" all the time as a way to figure out how much money he makes. Men asking women what they bring to the table is men's version of that. If men can't get mad about women asking what they make then women shouldn't get mad when men ask what they bring.
It's honestly interesting and amazing watching Holiday and Rico's evolution over the last 2 years of me watching 8 @ the Table. Kudos to both of them. I attribute the change to their success in relationships. It's opened their eyes to see a bigger picture.
Experience has taught this young Lady a great deal of wisdom. You definitely need another outlet/podcast to share your personal point of view and knowledge that you've learned
Black dress is Holiday. She was on here often in past episodes. Glad she's back.
Holiday be talking that shit frfr.. everything she talking was on Point! I felt EVERY word!!!
Ooh, i like this interviewer , she ain't about the bs , answer question, damn, looking forward to more interviews by her.
Agreed. Dog I'm only 3min in and her energy is on fire
the person getting interviewed ain’t even being authentic .. “only kind of men i attract are over 6 feet, entrepreneur .. girl shut up📉
The interviewer messed up at the end saying that you should “get it out of your system” before marriage. That just means more men you will compare your husband to and you’ll be unhappy in the long run. The CDC conducted a study and the results were the more sexual partners a woman has, the chance of satisfaction in a marriage decreases.
I enjoyed and understood both viewpoints. I love when we as black women can have conversations without downplaying the other black woman
Downplaying or holding other women accountable ? Women need to stop being scared of being real and standing in truth. If not most women will be easily influenced by the same women that were easily influenced by others. Black women should talk seriously and reason situations instead of just k ocking everything men do because another female been through that. Take time and self check and hope you have friends solid enough to call you out on your bs.
@@plannerist good points I'm glad you read my comment. I didnt make it just for likes or for a man to agree its because I believe in order to have healthy conversations (women to women). We also have to listen and not just talk. Hows your day been😊
Both veiw point no ma u bugging only one dropping jewels was blk dress
@@pipedreamism1 read the comment as a whole and not just part of it. Because we as women we're so used to tearing each other down(which divides us not unite us) that we really don't truly listen to each other. Having healthy conversations is important no matter what you believe. (The same goes for a man having a conversation with another man with two different viewpoints). Hope you had a good day handsome😉
Holiday you putting these men on pedestal you really truly need to love yourself ma
I call this interview the battle for these two ladies to be right. They both wanna be right. 😂
I’m a give y’all ladies a secret. The quickest to lose a man’s interest in you to start talking about energy, Manifesting and astrologies. That is basically saying to a man “i don’t have any control over actions and i therefore use these things to justify my behavior”…..that shiddd is the biggest turn off to men.
White shirt just saying a whole lot of nothing through most of this episode
0:10 Like when men say “what do you bring to the table”
Bird Brain: You wouldn’t get offended by that question?
🤦🏾♂️Why tf would anyone get offended by that question unless they know they bring little if anything of value to a relationship.
They want to be offended. I she can be offended you can’t say it. The key is to keep you from asking
I see tinker bells perspective and agree with some of what she was trying to explain. She seems to have been in therapy and done the work and now knows her worth and not willing to settle. Being submissive goes both ways in a relationship. Both parties has to be willing to do the work to keep a relationship healthy and thriving. I know this because I show up daily in my marriage. Been with my husband for 21 yrs as of this month and married 12 yrs! We’re constantly learning and growing and in therapy working on our individual selves as well as a collective unit.
Agree w/ beige top in saying that you need time to heal between REAL relationships
Also agree w/ Holiday with the friend talk. I don't sleep with my real male friends PERIOD! Stop saying everyone is your friend. They aren't! That's just a friendly ass person. An associate at best.
Disagree w/ Holiday about the cheating, but let me only speak for me. I've never ever cheated on anyone I was in a relationship with. I don't play these types of games and I'molder than both of them. If I'm with you I'm you. She's literally telling these women to go be hoes. I'm just gonna say this doesn't apply to me.
Someone cheating on you is 1000% disrespectful. I'm shook she wven asked that question 🤦🏾♀️
SMH you attract all types of Men but the ones you pick are a whole different story.
That's the part these slow heifers still can't get 😂😂😂
Solid message for the ladies. #salute💯
12:51 The Spanish female was saying you can't put all men in a box however the put men in the momma's boy box, the simp box, the Alpha male box..
Black dress: *Says Anything*
White shirt: “1000 percent” then proceeds to dismiss then speak on exceptions & fringe situations
I think the lady in the black and white should let the other lady speak and learn to listen. She’s cutting off the lady in the beige shirt. I think the clarity of this conversation should of been giving in the beginning of the interview. Are we speaking about just relationships or marriage? Because the terms are definitely different
What the point of having a guest if she constantly wants to talk over her ?
Exactly, and not even answering the questions. CORRECTLY!!!
I wouldn’t say it’s who she attracts, it’s who she’s PICKING!! She was attracted to broken men.
black dress was on point whole time
Lol my ex did everything i told her to do with her education after the fact we broke up and the reason we broke up is because we argued about her going to the wrong school and degree… who was right at the end???🙃 #accountability
You are the Truth & the Justice
“I agree 1000%” was a lie every time it came out of her mouth 🤣
This chic on the right is the quintessential modern feminist that’s been ran thru…
Never commit to these types of women. Run some game, have some fun for a few months then move on….or don’t take the chance and just leave them be…
This just shows me what I already know...If you ask women questions you just get a whole lot of beating aroung the bush or talking in circles
Hypergamy is undefeated
The host has a lot of wisdom.
Why y’all replay the same thing from last week, then edit the title!
White shirt is 🧢😂
Unhealed aka youthful and more beautiful
Girl people are their true selves behind closed doors 🤦🏾♀️
And this chicks comprehension level is driving me insane. I’m exhausted 😩
Exactly! Watching this interview, is like watching paint dry. The interviewer did an excellent job. The interviewee needs some serious help!
Then she *SAYS* job interview... Yeah, that's why ppl keep failing. They pull up with a resume instead of being who they are and seeing if there's chemistry beyond what either person "brings 2 the table".
If u really care about someone cuz Y'all vibe heavy, whatever somebody *DON'T* bring 2 the table that u need, they'll find a way 2.
The young lady in the white sweater has no clue what a real man should be. A real man about his purpose and is a top earner will not deal with you long term . This young lady is fighting the natural order that GOD setup.
I was with black dress on most things but not the sewing other men while being a girlfriend . Men use that time to see if you even capable of being loyal to him
Over complicating this sh1t. When dealing with a man that lots of other women would want? You can't make him wait in the friendzone. He got options he will move on to.
On date 2 at the latest. Have sex, then immediately begin to add value to his life outside of sex. Even if it's a simple as tidying up and cooking breakfast in the morn. So few women are doing that today. That just could have him wanting to keep you around.
The only woman that can make a man like that wait? Is a virgin or very sexually inexperienced woman. You can't have been out in these streets trying to make a desirable man work his way out the friendzone
An Alph female is a lesbian. Lesbian date women they don't date men. When women start talking that alpha female talk right away you know she is bi or dealing with women. If women would stick to the script and only date men their wouldn't be this gender confusion. A man shouldn't have to be extra aggressive because a woman can't control her behavior. The problem isn't that men aren't masculinity enough the problem is that women don't want to be submissive.
As little girls they don't respect their father. He say I want you in the house at this time. "Why I gotta come in at this time johnny don't gotta come in that time that's not fair." Meanwhile, the news has been talking about a serial rapist snatching females. Women need to learn to have respect for authority. Your father has the right to tell you what to do until you get married than your husband takes on that role. A husband has the right to tell his wife what time he wants her in the house. The bible says a husband is the law of his wife. A husband's decision is the final say.
father says to his daughter don't date so and so. She responds you can't tell me who I should date. Meanwhile, when the guy she chose starts busting her upside the head who is the first person that she calls her father, her brother or her uncle's but if she would have been submissive she wouldn't have put the men in her family in a violent situation. It was a reason why your father said leave that man alone. Maybe he realized that if this relationship turns sour I might have to go ahead to head with this man and I don't think I can take him. Men see the full picture while women only see 30% of the picture. If women would learn to respect their father, grand father, uncle or whatever male taking the lead in their family they would improve their chance of success in a relationship dramatically.
The blind leading the blind. No way as a man would I let a dude who admits he’s 70% gay give me advice on women and heterosexual relationships.
14 minutes and 30 seconds in and the one question I have because they usually contradict themselves. The one question I have is why would you want to be an alpha female and at the same time not want to attract men that have mommy issues? That's a contradiction in itself because a man that had an alpha mother is going to be looking for an alpha female. He's going to be looking for a woman to safeguard him you should be fine with that and if not there's some things you probably need to change.
Interdependence not codependency , go right to codependent . Most women dont know about interdependence .
Black dress asked “do you think someone cheating on you is being disrespectful?” Goes to show the world is delusional. 😂😂😂
I’m out ✌🏾
A man cheating isn't that he doesn't respect you. A man shows lack of respect when he can provide and provision for a woman but doesn't . That's disrespect , not acting on my hormones and keeping those acts away from you
@@malimal4972 You're delusional
@@nnena3631 very delusional
I was kinda givin' shorty the benefit of the doubt until she started dismissing the concept of friendship. That's literally what companionship is.
The only difference she seems 2 see is whether or not the 2 ppl have sex. In that case, u're not in the market 4 a companion, u're just lookin 4 a job as a wifey.
Shit ain't goin nowhere if u can't have a foundation in friendship. That's why ppl fail.
Somebody get her on fresh and fit 🔥🔥
Just goes to show women won't even listen to other women or take advice... smh
She’s Kevin Samuels😂😂😂
I love the host, she’s keeping it real, the guest need therapy.
Facts 😂
Men ask that question are trying to be arrogant and reduce you down to nothing. Men already know what they want from women and what attracted him in the first place only men who are toxic as that question. He will slowly see what he likes or dislikes about you.
christ for one, the man she wants arent going to take a bottle girl serious, number two she can't accept that what she wants to bring to a man is not what men want cause all i hear is equal equal equal, WE AINT EQUAL FFS
Why does white shirt keep making up these disingenuous scenario's, why not go in with best possible scenario instead of worst possible scenario. it seems like you're going into a relationship expecting it to fail instead of expecting it to work. Holiday actually makes sense. White shirt is talking word salad. This woman, watch her actions not her words. Also, this woman will argue for the need to be right always.
Something's off. Maybe it's s bit of knowledge she still lacks or she got the therapy and has grown but still mentally holds bad ideologies that could still hurt her in the long run. Like the male friend thing. If the guy likes you, then you need to recognize that and while you get to know him, understand his intentions are a relationship. Which means he isn't just a friend. So move accordingly. And that starts with treating that guy as if he is a prospect from point A to point Z of you guys relationship. Running with the mentality of we are just friends is dangerous
Y’all gota stop moving camera
I totally agree with 95% of what Nikki said. Love her point of view.
No accountability whatsoever. Its everyone fault but their own. Women a trip.
Woman on the right looks good but beyond that.........nobody at home.🧠
I have a feeling the woman with the white on she only talk to guys who's only on probation.
The days are over when women only had to bring good looks, coochie, cooking, and cleaning to the table more is needed like being fit, feminine, friendly, cooperative, willing to let a man lead, unselfishness, and a submissive woman
sounds like you want to go back to how women are naturally, how we have always been before the last few generations of ratchetness took over. that happened and people forgot about most of our mothers and most of the grandmothers. (as I got older I did learn that there were bad mothers who have scarred tf out of a lot of the "men" we come across nowadays, smh) what your talking about has been here for centuries, women are naturally submissive, feminine, friendly, cooperative, following a MAN, unselfishly. this woman needs to be supported because she will (most likely) naturally want to raise a wholistic family meaning she will need time and good health in order to breastfeed your babies and maybe homeschool your children if that's what you all choose, those type of things are naturally feminine . women are nurturers and teachers by nature
STOP SAYING THAT WOMEN WHO ARE 20 ARE EASILY MANIPULATED TF, MEN DONT WANT OLDER WOMEN FFS
Im so sick of the cap
26 really????
Holiday could have done the show her self without this slow person
Ole girl not that mature the Latina I’m talking about she gotta long way ago
13:19 Women have no idea about what it means to be submissive. The executive producer in a movie example isn't a submissive job. Now, if you are the person that cleans up the snack table on a movie set now that's a submissive role. Women talk about being submissive in relationship but they have no intentions of taking the back seat in a relationship.
Women be talking just to talk. Watching these females conversate is like watching two Chihuahua bark at each other at the dog park.
They were both contradicting theirselves in the first 15 mins.
That's the worst belief, older men prey on younger women. I'm 12 years older than my woman meet her when she was 19 and I was 31. Young women seek older men and when it's right they love it for the stability 37 now and two kids in waiting for the right time for marriage
She was probably looking for a father figure 😂 When we say we want older men it means like 2-7 years older, maybe 10 years but anything over that is for women with daddy issues or sugar babies
I'm shocked 😳 by a modern women having some sense. The black dress. The other female is the typical modern women with a modern women mindset 😂
Facts!
Let's be honest it's the money they know off the break these men are no good for them they stick it out because money
Not even interested in this video, the first thing she do is blame the men & say they have mommy issues 🤔, Foh its like 304’s say the same things over and over to avoid accountability.
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