When a beginner 3D printer is too good
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- Опубліковано 1 лип 2024
- Bambulab 3D Printers - bit.ly/3x3rGxz
Print Farm Academy Course - printfarmacademy.com
My Favorite Bambulab printers:
Starters:
P1P ($100 off) - bit.ly/3O2SLFy
A1 ($60 off) - bit.ly/450XP5f
A1 Mini ($100 off) - bit.ly/45WkLmP
Workhorses:
P1S ($100 off) - bit.ly/44D99Ub
X1C ($150 off) - bit.ly/450GVCV
My Favorite Bambulab printers:
P1P - bit.ly/3O2SLFy
P1S - bit.ly/44D99Ub
A1 - bit.ly/450XP5f
A1 Mini - bit.ly/45WkLmP
Wish I could afford a bambulab p1s they seem like a great printer
@@Built3Ddefinitely awesome printer a real workhorse. Make a few upgrades and some setting changes and it's a even better than a workhorse it's a commercial workhorse.
@@IndianaDiy a real worse? what upgrades do you recommend?
@@Saveddrip Typo on my end. So Hardened Hotend and extruder or Commercial hotend and last Whambam build plates.
In my opinion these make the machine more commercial ready workhorse.
The commercial Hotends have some really nice nozzles for long term durability. I have seen posts about Bambu hardened hotends lasting a long time but I want to be able to change the nozzle or use a diamond tipped nozzle.
@@Saveddrip A workhorse I meant.
I like to Have a hardend steel hotend and extruder. I have pre-ordered a new Slice commercial hotend to possibly just switch my printer over to that and any others I buy. Also Pre-ordering a Micro Swiss with diamond tipped nozzle to compre for commercial printing. I like option to just change nozzles.
I also like Whambam Build plates I have all that they make for the P1S and Visionminer nano adhesive.
Also I use Activated Alumina instead of silica dessicant in my AMS unit.
We are using 12 of P1S with AMS for almost a year now and each of them working around 20h a day, we have very low failure rate even on parts with fine details. To this point we have done 0 maintenance other than basic cleaning and all machines are still in a very good shape. Totally agree with your recommendation and personally very happy on spending extra on picking those printers for a farm. Worth to mention that AMS saves a lot of time on swapping the filament + gives extra abilities so I recommend getting at least few of the AMS units for the farm. When we started to operate the farm it became very clear that main cost actually aren't the printers, it's filament and wasting time with low quality machines doesn't make any financial sense especially when your farm is very loaded, each minute wasted on fighting bad quality filament or machine cost triple.
@@hobbyistnotes That's very good info. How hard was it to start up your farm?
Bit the bullet and grabbed the P1S w/ AMS after watching this. Time to retire the Ender 3 Pro!
My ender has been sitting in the closet since my P1P arrived 3 months ago lol I'll never go back 😂😂 this thing does everything for you
One thought I had on the A1 as a farm machine.......the quick swap hot end. Since 90% of issues seem to be hot end related, that seems like it would be a maintenance game changer.
I have three P1S and an A1 mini. Just bought 3 more A1 mini's because I print 100% PETG and the nozzle wiping solution on the A1 series does a much better job of cleaning the nozzle and not getting filament on the print bed. This can be pretty annoying with PETG. My parts are also less about volume and more about area so for basically the same price right now four A1 minis gives me twice as many parts in half the time as one P1S. YMMV obviously. Also, notice in the video all that dark carbon sludge on the Z-screws in the P1P from the X-axis rail and how difficult it is to regularly get back to that nearly-enclosed rear screw to clean.
@printfarmacademy episode idea btw, maintenance schedule/technique for these printers :)
I was going to ask for this kinda of feedback. I'm looking at at the pretty P1s but one set of my parts can be printed in PETG and all together, are slightly larger than the size of my hand. A P1s is a huge waste of space if I dedicate a printer to the part. Other parts are bigger so I'll need a P1s, but a P1 Mini or two would be cheaper and good enough for the part. Thanks.
Great comment. When I get a machine, I'm planning on starting with petg exclusively.
I've got a P1P, and a A1 mini and just bought a P1S mainly because I don't find the A1 to be dimensionally accurate (it's usually out by about 2.24%. For 50% of my parts that's fine but for the others it's a problem.
@@nykscreations1483 interesting, I'll make sure to test that. So far so good on the one I have.
Love my P1P but did pick up an A1-Mini + AMS Lite on the sale. Fantastic printer for the "smaller stuff" and would highly recommend it as anyone's first printer, particularly if the size fits your needs (otherwise go with the full size A1). I was also surprised to learn that the A1 series has automatic flow calibration [which the P1 series lacks] and swapping nozzles (e.g. between standard .4 and a .2 for fine detail on figurines or HueForge prints) is super fast and easy on the A1 - one clip and no wires [I really hope they come up with a retrofit for the P1]. As you mention, the touch screen is nice on the A1 but since I print to both printers directly from Bambu Slicer, I rarely have to touch either screens.
I bought a P1S, and now I need to buy 3 more. Taking it slow and doing a few upgrades. I preordered a Mako Hotend from Slice Engineering and bought some Whambam build plates. So far, we've been getting local customers and trying to grow. I used some examples from the videos and it helped a lot. Thank you.
The best thing about learning on a Creality is knowing that until they get their act together, I won't be buying one again and that's why I sent the Creality back and bought a Bambu 😊😃
I saw you old video a couple of months ago when i was in the market and went with the P1P and i have to say DAMN this printer is amazing and tough as nails! Hopefully the first of many for my upcoming business venture 👍🏼
hey guys i started in my 2nd year of 3d printing. i started with an Flashforge Adventurer 4 and bought around 2 month ago an Creality K1 Max. i love my printers and i am at the moment about in the progress to look what i can print and sell. and by the way i love ur videos and they help me alot
Something the video never touched on... flow calibration in the A1 series that's not in the P1 series. This let's me run lower priced filaments that my Prusa would struggle with, night and day in some cases. I wanted a P1S but ended up getting an A1+AMS and 2x A1 Minis. Absolutely the best decision in terms of flexibility and output capacity. When the P2 series becomes available (persumably with flow calibration and a modern screen) then I'm game for a Core XY. Really impressed with the Bambu experience!
Excellent point!
Being a long time follower of you and @wittworks I jumped down the rabbit hole of 3D printing.
I did not listen to your advise.
I went gonzo with the X1C. Having a great time. Just need to learn Fusion, hard to teach a 64 year old some new tricks.
Thanks for sharing and thanks for being you!
Won’t go wrong with the X1C!
I'm 50 and was in the same boat, But in the past year I've learned Onshape CAD software and I'm designing parts from the ground up almost daily. You can do it! Lean on UA-cam heavily for instructional videos.
Hi! I'm 63 and I highly recommend ditching Fusion and go with Onshape (Free Plan)
I am 50 years old and going to buy my first printer, the X1C, and will need to learn a modeling software like you are. I am also a long time follower from the woodworking side and now moving to the 3D printing side of his businesses. Best of luck!
Thanks - just bought a P1P as our first printer.
Love your videos and they're very informative too. My wife is getting me started on an A1 right now. She's into miniature doll house printing right now and currently owns several Bambu printers thanks to earlier videos you put out about the company's quality products!
I just bought an A1 combo from the anniversary sale. Best money spent! I've been printing nonstop since I got it.
Have you had any troubles what so ever? Sorry I grabbed one too, and it's currently shipping. Anything I should look out for?
No issues with the printer. I've had a couple prints fall apart, but it was in the very beginning. So far, I'm very happy with my purchase. I may consider picking up another one or a P1P this Black Friday depending on what I print in the next few months.
@@TheMajesticFreak define fall apart?
Just bought a A1 and p1s for my up coming tool organizer farm
I just bought the X1C Combo and the K1 Max and I love them and they bullet proof after mods. Your video was excellent. Both machines are excellent and just works.
Based on your previous recommendations, I went with a P1S a few months back (I prefer the enclosure) and I've been so happy with it that I bought another last week. After years of tinkering with my older printers and giving up in frustration, it is great that they are now "appliances." The only "upgrades" I've done are hardened gears and nozzles.
With the bed-leveling and textured PEI sheet, I have had zero issues with adhesion. The only issue that I've had was the desktop software defaulting to the wrong material after an upgrade. Well, that and having some serious issues with years-old PLA that didn't play nice.
Started with the P1S , just for experimenting, keeping my options for "modding" open, and direct support for the hardened steel nozzles, if I really want to print across the different materials. So far, I've printed PLA, PETG and TPU. So far, it's an amazing experience.
Thank you for your video, I maybe consider getting a A1 or A1 mini for my fiance.
Ive 4 P1S and 3 A1 minis. When I need big single parts the P1S is just amazing but the mini is flawless for full beds of small parts.. its hard to go wrong with Bambu and when I think of the price, im still struggling to believe how much this world has changed in a few years..
if you care about surface quality without slowing down the speed & you often print tall object, core XY is a must. I knock tall print all the time with bed slinger
I bought the P1S Combo during the sale and I'm pretty blown away by the Bambu Lab offering out of the box. I'm coming from 4+ years with Ender 5 (all metal hotend direct drive upgraded) and the original Voxelab Aquila X1.
I haven't put the P1S through the paces yet. First benchy printed was probably the best I've ever printed and messed around with some other prints for my Meshlicious case.
Anyway thanks for the comparison, Travis. I'm leaning towards getting A1 and probably a mini and donating my E5 and Aquila to a school or non profit org, don't think I'm going back. LOL
I think the Mini is a great farm candidate depending on what you're printing. I have A1, A1 Mini and P1S and the mini is my go to for day to day printing.
Having own both, I think the A1 is just a better deal. With the AMS lite, its the same price as the P1P alone. It's also a lot quieter, a lot easier to swap out hotends, and maintain than the P1P.
Thanks for this comparison video, love your content! Can you please create a video if AMS is necessary and its pros and cons.Thanks and appreciate it!
I loved my Prusa Mini as a first printer. It was so easy to use and just worked. I now have a Prusa MK4 which I'm loving even more.
Let me just tell you how much you’ll love these even more!
We still have 5 MK3+ in our farm but it's just financially worse to buy 1 MK4 + MMU(~$1400) rather than buying 3 A1 Combos (~$1650). We used Prusa printers for roughly 6 years but the times are changing. Prusas are definitely still fantastic machines, it is the price that makes it a difficult choice though.
Love your content
It been 2 months since I bought my first 3D printer ( XIC ). So far with some minor troubleshooting, things been good. Next year, I am thinking of maybe buying at least one P1P for simpler parts, but I am hoping Bambu lab releases a bigger printer.
Love the videos, looked at your class, and maybe I’m blind, but I couldn’t find a price.
Your videos are also an excellent source for knowledge and I use the excel sheet you made, thank you for that!
on a print farm it might make sense to do p1p's and put them all in a heated enclosure together. a 9 pack all sharing the same cabinet and heater.
Another great concise video. Thanks!👍
Always great business tutorial like videos! Like them
Two weeks ago I treated myself to an X1C, and oh my. It's definitely overkill for mostly anything I'll print, but it feels like such a huge step up -- it's not _quite_ as simple as using a microwave, but together with the Bambu Lab Studio app this is starting to make 3D printing feel like a home appliance rather than something you need to tweak, adjust and monitor.
When you realise that just for a bit more money really makes sense. 😃 After Creality, that little extra for a Bambu is worth it.
The Mini arrives Monday to replace a 1st Ender3. See how the mini goes and if a larger volume is needed then these are good options
What percentage of ABS products does your farm produce?
have you ever thought of using the cr30, to print your parts nonstop? would love to see how that would work
Thank you! I've been trying to decide this exact problem.
However, I think I've come to the opposite outcome: 15 A1 printers instead of 8 P1Ps.
We are only printing PETG, the print is relatively short (both in terms of height and print time)
So I think having 7 more printers for the price is better for throughput.
Would love to hear about how your torture test for the A1s goes!
That's not a bad route to take, also adds in more redundancy for printer failures and downtime!
Good to see someone making actual products. I've been interested in 3D printing for quite awhile but it's always seemed like a large universe of toys (meaning the products made, not the machines themselves). Nothing wrong with that. Just not for me. I'm also not going to start a print farm as I'm too old and too lazy for that. Oddly, just seeing someone make a functional tool makes me want a printer again. I think I'm going to get a P1S and give it a whirl.
can you do a video about bed adhesion and warping and how to fix them?
Much, much easier changing nozzles on a1 than P series. And they are so cheap they are basically disposable. So, get a jam in the a1, you are back running in maybe 2 minutes max. Also, changing nozzle size is something I never messed with my old Prusa but do all the time with my a1 mini. The ams is great for changing filament, and can save you on huge prints as it can change if you run out without a manual switch.
Starting with mk4 and some ender 3's. I'm hoping to get p1p eventually
My main question is what kind of shelvings do you use for your farm?
can we get an update video on the mk4 v p1p comparison?
The colour changes on the p series is slower than the A1's, it negates the slower speed of the A1s
I’m going to let you finish, but the A1 mini is the greatest printer of all time.
Haha
No, no it’s not 😂
I have 5 P1S’s (they print only ABS parts), 2 A1’s and an A1 mini that I absolutely hate using. The screen is the biggest deal breaker on it.
@@Truth_Spoken wdym ? the A1 has much better screen than P1 series
so yeah, I was waffling for the bulk of the sale, but finally committed to an a1combo. I was super tempted by the a1mini, but my lizard brain was like "what if i neeeeeed that extra space?" and my cr6se is sitting over there like "what am I, chopped liver?"
What Printfarm management software do you use to manage all your machines?
How about 3D build software to design the project, maybe a little video of what you using?
Or go with one of the Bambu “clones”. I’m happy with my Flashforge Adventurer 5M that I bought back in April. And there are people using these in print farms successfully.
Thank you for your great videos. Can you elaborate on what farm software, if any, are you using to stream line your process? specially for the Bambu Lab printers.
I have them all lol and love them!
I am buying a A1 mini tommorrow!
Any chance that you will be selling the dust collection attachments for the Milwaukee miter saws?
The parts for the A1 are less, not much, and I wonder if they will last as long as the P series. The bed slingers appear easy to maintain? What do you think? Although my experience so far with P1S and A1 mini and A1 is nozzle issues, or having the correct filament settings.... Either series.
Got rid of my X1C and replaced it with a Mk4 after reading the privacy policy.
I got the A1, hard to beat multicolor printing at that price point for only 10 to 15% slower then the P1P. Both good I'm sure, but A1 makes a lot more sense for us beginners....here's to hoping I can someday turn this into a true print farm
Absolutely, both solid options... for a hobby printer. But for a print farm? Do you have a filament recycler? :P
Because from what I have seen, the waste on these beasts is huge. In the long run I would say MMU or even XL will be worth the extra buck.
Exactly. 16 colors on Bambu? Absolute nonsense. AMS has problem to print anything even with 4 colors in reasonable time, so why 16? And the waste? It is just absurd!
I am currently thinking about buying the P1S since it's on sale right now. On the other hand, I don't know if I should wait for the 2nd generation of Bambulab Printers. Can anyone tell me what to do?
Lol what. The price changed from 599 to 800 on the P1S after reloading the website a couple of times
How is the prusa mk4 doing?
Great vid. I've pretty much settled on a Bambu as my first machine.
I don't have a printer, so I could be wrong with this comment, but isn't the nozzle on the A1 easier to replace?
Would the A! be a better prototyping machine?
Yes definitely easier to replace, but swapping them on the P-series isn’t too bad
I have the A1 Mini and P1S. Love both of them a lot. I print mainly PLA and PETG. I have to say I seem to get better print quality off of the A1 Mini for some reason. Not 100% sure why. I also have 2 of the Flashforge 5M printers. They are basically a copy of the P1P with smaller build volume then the P1P but larger the then A1 Mini. I have to say they have also better print quality then my P1S for some reason as well.
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Hi! Great Video. Can you please share what model of USV you are using. A saw in the video that you use Cyberpower. What´s the model you use for the A1´s. And how many A1 per USV? Thank a lot. Greetings from Austria ;)
Thank for this quick review between the two. Thing to watch is the Activeflow Rate Compensation on the A1; does this give better results than the P1P/P1S series?
Actually, to correct myself the P! does have active compensation according to the BBL site, P1P page.
I'm looking at getting a new printer but not sure what one to get as I want to use more engineering filaments for motorcycle parts.
I'm toying with qidi printer because the price but not sure
Can you put the a1 screen on the p1s?
But would you still recommend the P1P with AMS over the prusa xl? for multi color prints it seams the xl would prevent lots of wasted material and/or having to glue or screw parts with different colors together, so saving on labor? seams in those cases the XL is the preferred option?
I'm on A1s for my little farm (+Qidis for HT stuff, great printers too but less polish). A1 over P1x why ? Because in my opinion there will be continuous printing kits for that bed slingers (automatic plate swapping, etc) within months while it's much more complex with corexy designs. Thanks for vids, always interesting!
I ended up picking up an A1 mini at the start of the sale. Hard to pass $199 to see if I would use a 3D Printer. Guess I do, as I just pulled the trigger on an AMS Lite to go with it. What have I started...
I'd really like to see you review the Creality K1
I can promise you I won't be reviewed that thing
@@PrintFarmAcademy😂
Bambu!
@@PrintFarmAcademy How come? Bambu lab sponsorship? 🤣
@@eddie8730He doesn’t do random printer reviews. Just what is being used in his business.
@@mwinner101Exactly. This a production channel. If you want reviews, there are plenty of those
The P1P is a niche machine, only recommended for people who know exactly why they are buying it. The P1S is a far better value and a much more complete package. Both A1 printers are phenomenal values. The P1 printers are more pro level, but the A1 printers are still very capable and, with the easy swap nozzles, do offer a bit more flexibility.
What do you think about voron
What do you think of the Creality K1 Max compared to the p1s? I have an opportunity to get a K1 Max new for a really good price?
Thanks again for all these print farm videos Travis!
I can't wait for the course to start up.
The A series is amazing, and extremely reliable. I have two full size A1s and two A1 minis; all but one of the minis was bought during the sale.
There;s another small youtuber with a print farm, Dancyn 3D Prints, who has something like 100+ bambu printers and I think around 40+ are A1s. They're excellent, low maintenance printers for PLA or PETG farms.
We have 10 P1S printers
We purchased 10 A1 combo printers to add to our print farm
We now have around 50 printers and Bambu's is one of the most excellent, feature-packed printers we have in our farm.
@@3DThird Wow, that's awesome but I bet it was hard to get going?
Wich one has the best quality and nice finishing printing?
@@DanDr15 P1S in my opinion. Plus Commercial Open source hotend available soon.
@@DanDr15 both are equally good but are intended for different purposes. P1S for advanced materials while the A1 for everyday materials
@@3DThird the most importan for me it is the print quality, 0 headaches , an product more like “apple” , price range 200 to 2.000$
Should've mentioned for the price of the P1P you can get the A1 with AMS lite. Heck, you can get 2 A1 Minis with a few spools of filament for the price of the P1P.
I have the A1 Mini with AMS lite and it's such a crazy good printer. Definitely the best entry level or small batch printer hands down.
As a fellow engineer I might be looking for even more durable materials such as carbon fiber nylon to sell parts. I know that you worked for Markforged, so I'm sure you're aware of Onyx which is a fantastic material. If I could find an affordable printer that could print carbon fiber nylon of that quality, I would be in business. The X1 looks promising, but I haven't researched it much.
Yeah X1 is fantastic. You can technically print those abrasive materials on the P1P and P1S once you upgrade some components to hardened steel
@@PrintFarmAcademy Does the lack of full enclosure matter though?
I went straight to the P1S, because a fully enclosed printer will stay fresh for longer as less dust gets into the mechanics.
I'm definitely not an "Ender bro", but the KE I got a few months back has been a pretty good printer so far (just wish they would remove the other dinosaurs from their lineup..); can't knock the quality of the bambu's tho. Curious to see where your 'torture tests' of the A1s lead; from everything else bambu has released, I'm sure they'll be just fine, but we'll see I suppose
What do you mean remove the other Dinosaurs from their lineup?
LoL I want to add that I have ZERO 3D printers, I mentioned this to the people having more than 1 LoL. I thought this was academy to learn or have some kind of idea what to buy and how to use to start the print farm, so give people like me tips, tell me if and why you think P1S or A1 is better or worse, please.
You should make videos about how to get clients as a print service rather then selling your own products
IMO building a Prusa kit, if you have the funds, is a route that should be considered. Learning how these things actually work is hugely important and a Bambu will not teach you that.
I used the feel the exact same way. No wrong path but lots of people are not interested in tinkering with the tool itself
@@PrintFarmAcademy I just can’t bring myself to view a 3D printer as an appliance, I guess I’ve changed too many bearings and hot ends! I’m going to pick up a P1S to compare to my MK4’s at some point as they do intrigue me. One thing I wonder is if US sanctions will ever affect Bambu. It’s looking likely DJI drones may be banned in the US and with Bambu likely being largely funded by the CCP something similar could happen, especially if you end up with a very anti-China President.
I am glad my first printer (Mk3) was a kit because I definitely learned a lot, but I know a lot of Bambu users just want out of the box printers that just works.
"Max acceleration is hardly ever reached, except for big prints". I think you're deeply confusing acceleration and max speed.
If you tell me that the advertised max speed is hardly ever reached, except in big prints. I accept.
Max acceleration is the rate of speed increase that it'll accelerate the tool head from the moment it starts to move. So the acceleration you set, is the acceleration you get. The speed you set, will not always (or in some cases never) be achieved. But acceleration will.
I’m an engineer, I’m well aware of what acceleration is. However if the head is just traveling a short distance, the head cannot ramp up to speed quickly enough. That’s the only point I was making
Take a look at the Flashforge 5m, great printer, half the cost
😅Are you not required to disclose to us that BambuLab has paid you and how much to do a marketing plug like this? So what were you paid?
Was not paid by Bambulab
Huh, wonder what this video is sponsored by lol.
Truly not sponsored
Bambu commercial
Not sponsored
Oh just get over bambu allready, there are cheaper and faster printers on the market.
Also guys, don’t take his overpriced business coarse…he won’t tell you this but he profits from stealing other peoples designs and flipping them on his store. What a grifter
Please tell me more! You sound super smart
I went with an X1C w AMS. The only hiccups have been my fault.