Is there also an overhead camera / scanner to determine the orientation of the part on the positioner? Or is this all determined by the scanner on the robot?
Great question! Our system primarily uses pre-existing 3D models provided by the user. While we can scan and generate 3D models using advanced camera systems, this approach often proves less economically efficient. Scanning requires more time and continuous involvement of a welding engineer to set welding parameters for scanned part, leading to increased manual work. Conversely, using an existing 3D model allows our system to analyze it and apply reusable welding parameters for similar types of welds. Ultimately, paying for someone to create 3D models is both cheaper and faster than scanning and manually setting parameters afterward. What type of projects are you looking to apply this technology to? Are there specific challenges you're facing that we could address? We'd love to hear more!
That's pretty cool, but I have some criticism, once the robot gets its parameters and shows the 3d model, it should allow the operator to simulate the movements before starting so if there is an error, the robot doesn't crash and you can start the process safely. I also see that the robot can zero the part with the welding wire which is pretty cool, there should be a way to manually zero the part and set your starting point in the software if you don't like the automated process. That's pretty much it, I really like the 3d simulation and I think this has huge potential.
Hi! Thank you for your comment. An operator can check himself after setting the welding parameters. There is a virtual simulation for this. But in general, if the system detects any collisions, it will warn about it before the welding. As you correctly noted, the robot cuts the wire before welding. This provides precise touch sensing. Zero points are not required in our case. This process is automated. We always adapt to the actual position of the part in the work area. With ABAGY robot programming is not required at all.
@@ABAGY That's cool cos you didn't get this info from the video, so it's good to know that the operator can simulate that. As for the zero point bit, my main concern with automation is that when you get more complex parts, at some point you're gonna have something that the system can figure out, that's why it's good to have a way to manually set the parameters, but I guess you guys are trying to make it as automated as possible. I really like the 3D simulation, would've loved to have something like that on the machines that I've worked on, not just for welding, you guys could integrate something like this in milling, painting, carving... etc and it would work really great. One last thing when rewatching the video, your software has: Weld speed(which is ok) and robot speed, it would be nice to expand these features to Weld Speed, Travel Speed and Work Speed, maybe you have other option, but at first glance, just robot speed doesn't tell me anything. All in all you guys are doing a great job.
Thanks for your thoughtful feedback! Our goal is indeed to make automation as seamless as possible while still offering manual control when needed. We're constantly improving and expanding our features, so your suggestions on speed settings are valuable. The idea of integrating this technology into other areas like milling and painting is exciting-definitely something to consider! Glad you enjoyed the 3D simulation aspect; we're passionate about making advanced robotics more accessible. Appreciate your support!
if i have a fillet weld with larger leg length which requires multiple passes. how ABAGY can help us making multiple passes? do we need to stop after every pass, re-scan and give welding parameter?
You can input the welding parameters for a multipass weld right from the start. After that, the system handles everything automatically based on your settings. If your welding process requires grinding the weld after each pass, this isn't a limitation of the robot but rather a requirement of your specific welding technology. In such cases, you'd likely need to continue the same practice even with the robot in use.
What is the better: laser scanner or visual data analysation? I think 3D scanners are too low productivity, it would be much better to use truly machine vision
3D scanners give much more reliable z-accuracy for the data compared to 2D cameras. And of course we use complex AI and machine vision algorithms to process the data. By the way, what do you mean by "productivity"?
Hello! Are you referring to Motoman robots? Abagy is fully compatible with this brand, and we can certainly support you. If you're interested, please send your request to hello@abagy.com.
What would the best 3d printed arm for 3dp and running the best software be to achieve this with 2 arms to hold materials and move positioning of objects be and how would one acomplish it?
This is an interesting question! We work with industrial robots, so we can't give advice. But we hope you find a solution. Thanks for watching our videos.
Fronius welding machines have a range of parameters that can be adjusted based on the specific application, such as voltage, wire feed speed, and gas flow. For detailed info, please refer to the Fronius user manual or contact their support.
Abagy excels in high-mix, low-volume production. For automotive manufacturing, other solutions might be more suitable. However, if you're dealing with non-serial car bodies, Abagy could be a great fit: Efficiently manage a large number of products and 3D models for programming. Adapt to parts that are tack welded and positioned without fixtures, reducing the need for extensive robot teaching. Minimize the use of fixtures, saving costs by only using what's necessary for positioning. Simplify operations, especially when it's challenging to find and retain skilled robotic engineers.
Each production is unique. Our engineers can choose a robotic solution specifically for your task, then it will be possible to determine the cost. We encourage you to fill out the form on our website abagy.com
These machines seem optimal for large-run, small parts with minimal variation, or welds requiring the bare minimum heat input possible. Unfortunately, it seems like a bad match for smaller jobs where humans still out-perform because multi-tasking is still very expensive to automate. I'm curious if we will see a shift in industry towards more standardized parts and structures, compared to the current market where customer design tends to win-out over strictly designs which would be easy / profitable to run using robotics.
Thanks for your thoughtful comment! Abagy's solution actually excels in high-mix, low-volume production environments, where there is significant variation in parts and frequent changeovers. Our technology is designed to simplify robotic programming and eliminate the need for extensive offline programming, making it easier to handle complex and custom jobs. While automation can indeed be challenging for smaller jobs, Abagy's adaptive system can adjust to deviations in parts and configurations, allowing for a level of flexibility that often outperforms traditional setups. As for the industry trend, we believe that a balance between standardized and customized parts will continue to evolve. Our goal is to provide tools that make robotics more accessible and efficient, even in scenarios with high variability. Would love to hear more of your thoughts on this!
Thank you for the comment. We try to be helpful. Stay tuned. By the way, we are going to make one of the videos about programming robots using ChatGPT. Would you be interested?
This is not going to be possible to implement in automotive industry, as there is too much when it comes to environment and collusion might be unavoidable.
While the automotive industry has unique challenges, Abagy's solution is tailored for high-mix, low-volume production where flexibility is key. Our system adapts to part deviations and reduces the need for extensive fixtures, which might not be ideal for high-speed automotive lines. However, we continually work on innovations that could potentially address the complexities you've mentioned. We appreciate your insights and are always open to discussions on industry-specific applications!
@@ABAGY what is required to keep the camera lens and its capability functioning well ..what the expected life of that camera considering the welding enviroment .. have you experienced low performance based on the arc on tjime ?? i am assuming that the camera will allow the robot to track the joint if the work piece is not exact the dwg. what happens part to part if these are not machined parts will the robot track joints piece to piece.
Is there also an overhead camera / scanner to determine the orientation of the part on the positioner? Or is this all determined by the scanner on the robot?
do we ourselves need to create a 3d model of the object to be welded ? or does the software generate a 3d model using the camera?
Great question! Our system primarily uses pre-existing 3D models provided by the user. While we can scan and generate 3D models using advanced camera systems, this approach often proves less economically efficient. Scanning requires more time and continuous involvement of a welding engineer to set welding parameters for scanned part, leading to increased manual work. Conversely, using an existing 3D model allows our system to analyze it and apply reusable welding parameters for similar types of welds. Ultimately, paying for someone to create 3D models is both cheaper and faster than scanning and manually setting parameters afterward.
What type of projects are you looking to apply this technology to? Are there specific challenges you're facing that we could address? We'd love to hear more!
@@ABAGY So this means we need to prepare 3D simulation of the entire environment as well? Or can the scanner map this out itself?
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That's pretty cool, but I have some criticism, once the robot gets its parameters and shows the 3d model, it should allow the operator to simulate the movements before starting so if there is an error, the robot doesn't crash and you can start the process safely.
I also see that the robot can zero the part with the welding wire which is pretty cool, there should be a way to manually zero the part and set your starting point in the software if you don't like the automated process. That's pretty much it, I really like the 3d simulation and I think this has huge potential.
Hi! Thank you for your comment.
An operator can check himself after setting the welding parameters. There is a virtual simulation for this. But in general, if the system detects any collisions, it will warn about it before the welding.
As you correctly noted, the robot cuts the wire before welding. This provides precise touch sensing.
Zero points are not required in our case. This process is automated. We always adapt to the actual position of the part in the work area. With ABAGY robot programming is not required at all.
@@ABAGY That's cool cos you didn't get this info from the video, so it's good to know that the operator can simulate that. As for the zero point bit, my main concern with automation is that when you get more complex parts, at some point you're gonna have something that the system can figure out, that's why it's good to have a way to manually set the parameters, but I guess you guys are trying to make it as automated as possible.
I really like the 3D simulation, would've loved to have something like that on the machines that I've worked on, not just for welding, you guys could integrate something like this in milling, painting, carving... etc and it would work really great.
One last thing when rewatching the video, your software has: Weld speed(which is ok) and robot speed, it would be nice to expand these features to Weld Speed, Travel Speed and Work Speed, maybe you have other option, but at first glance, just robot speed doesn't tell me anything.
All in all you guys are doing a great job.
Thanks for your thoughtful feedback! Our goal is indeed to make automation as seamless as possible while still offering manual control when needed. We're constantly improving and expanding our features, so your suggestions on speed settings are valuable. The idea of integrating this technology into other areas like milling and painting is exciting-definitely something to consider! Glad you enjoyed the 3D simulation aspect; we're passionate about making advanced robotics more accessible. Appreciate your support!
if i have a fillet weld with larger leg length which requires multiple passes. how ABAGY can help us making multiple passes? do we need to stop after every pass, re-scan and give welding parameter?
You can input the welding parameters for a multipass weld right from the start. After that, the system handles everything automatically based on your settings. If your welding process requires grinding the weld after each pass, this isn't a limitation of the robot but rather a requirement of your specific welding technology. In such cases, you'd likely need to continue the same practice even with the robot in use.
What is the better: laser scanner or visual data analysation? I think 3D scanners are too low productivity, it would be much better to use truly machine vision
3D scanners give much more reliable z-accuracy for the data compared to 2D cameras. And of course we use complex AI and machine vision algorithms to process the data. By the way, what do you mean by "productivity"?
Very interesting, I just bought a roboman UP6 and have to learn all this, is there somewhere in Australia?
Hello! Are you referring to Motoman robots?
Abagy is fully compatible with this brand, and we can certainly support you. If you're interested, please send your request to hello@abagy.com.
What would the best 3d printed arm for 3dp and running the best software be to achieve this with 2 arms to hold materials and move positioning of objects be and how would one acomplish it?
This is an interesting question! We work with industrial robots, so we can't give advice. But we hope you find a solution. Thanks for watching our videos.
@@ABAGY yeah I found the arm I want to use your software it seems like I could actually do a lot with it. I also don't think any DIYer has ever asked.
Feel free to reach out if you have any questions or need assistance
I just noticed that the camera operator is not wearing any protective equipment during the welding sequence.
Safety is important even in the laboratory. Thanks for the comment.
Thanks! We think about what topics we should shoot videos on. What topic would be of interest to you?
Comparison of manual welding and Abagy way really interesting topic
@@MrShDen you should check out our next video! We will publish it on Tuesday.
To explain all the welding parameters of a fronius Welding machine.
Fronius welding machines have a range of parameters that can be adjusted based on the specific application, such as voltage, wire feed speed, and gas flow. For detailed info, please refer to the Fronius user manual or contact their support.
How do these robots work on an auto assembly line welding car bidies? Thx
Abagy excels in high-mix, low-volume production. For automotive manufacturing, other solutions might be more suitable. However, if you're dealing with non-serial car bodies, Abagy could be a great fit:
Efficiently manage a large number of products and 3D models for programming.
Adapt to parts that are tack welded and positioned without fixtures, reducing the need for extensive robot teaching.
Minimize the use of fixtures, saving costs by only using what's necessary for positioning.
Simplify operations, especially when it's challenging to find and retain skilled robotic engineers.
What would be an appropriate cost for a robotic welder to weld exhaust systems?
Each production is unique. Our engineers can choose a robotic solution specifically for your task, then it will be possible to determine the cost. We encourage you to fill out the form on our website abagy.com
These machines seem optimal for large-run, small parts with minimal variation, or welds requiring the bare minimum heat input possible.
Unfortunately, it seems like a bad match for smaller jobs where humans still out-perform because multi-tasking is still very expensive to automate.
I'm curious if we will see a shift in industry towards more standardized parts and structures, compared to the current market where customer design tends to win-out over strictly designs which would be easy / profitable to run using robotics.
Thanks for your thoughtful comment! Abagy's solution actually excels in high-mix, low-volume production environments, where there is significant variation in parts and frequent changeovers. Our technology is designed to simplify robotic programming and eliminate the need for extensive offline programming, making it easier to handle complex and custom jobs.
While automation can indeed be challenging for smaller jobs, Abagy's adaptive system can adjust to deviations in parts and configurations, allowing for a level of flexibility that often outperforms traditional setups. As for the industry trend, we believe that a balance between standardized and customized parts will continue to evolve. Our goal is to provide tools that make robotics more accessible and efficient, even in scenarios with high variability.
Would love to hear more of your thoughts on this!
cool!
Thank you
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Good luck with your work.
IN the end pink shirt guy looked angry
oh, why do you think so?
Get rid of stupid from the videos and keep the engineer. Engineers and CNC operators get it, we want to see the tech.
Thank you for the comment. We try to be helpful. Stay tuned.
By the way, we are going to make one of the videos about programming robots using ChatGPT. Would you be interested?
This is not going to be possible to implement in automotive industry, as there is too much when it comes to environment and collusion might be unavoidable.
Wrong….
While the automotive industry has unique challenges, Abagy's solution is tailored for high-mix, low-volume production where flexibility is key. Our system adapts to part deviations and reduces the need for extensive fixtures, which might not be ideal for high-speed automotive lines. However, we continually work on innovations that could potentially address the complexities you've mentioned. We appreciate your insights and are always open to discussions on industry-specific applications!
@@ABAGY what is required to keep the camera lens and its capability functioning well ..what the expected life of that camera considering the welding enviroment .. have you experienced low performance based on the arc on tjime ?? i am assuming that the camera will allow the robot to track the joint if the work piece is not exact the dwg. what happens part to part if these are not machined parts will the robot track joints piece to piece.