Best Jingliu Synergies | CN Team Analysis
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- Опубліковано 25 чер 2024
- An in-depth guide to Jingliu's team compositions by CN Community. While Jingliu can do tremendous damage even by herself, pairing her with the right teammates will be crucial in bringing out her highest damage output. This guide will go through some of the best teams players can use with Jingliu, as well as how to use her in said team comps.
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00:00 Intro
00:45 Disclaimer
02:54 Teambuilding Basics
06:08 Optimal Teammates
06:33 Bronya
08:56 Tingyun
11:27 Asta
12:23 Yukong
13:09 Pela
14:21 Silverwolf
16:10 Blade
17:24 DPS Ranking
17:59 Summary
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The pela/bronya combo just feels SO good, I miss the ultimate battery from tingyun sometimes but having those extra turns to jump back into enhanced state is just too good
I couldn’t imagine playing jingliu without bronya
Just do jingliu bronya pela tingyun and 1 tap them bosses
@@pretty.billy.Not a must but more optimal. I don't have Bronya as well but Tingyun works great. I might try an ERR rope on Jingliu together with Tingyun and see the uptime.
@@Gurenn83 yeah I’ve seen great runs with ting! Jing is my main and I’m just happy she works well with the most built character I had!
@@physazo dawg theres 2 sides u need supports for
Ok, I had to come back to give more of my thoughts on this data. To give some background, I spend a fair bit of time figuring out how to get 1 or 0 cycles with various setups. I find it fun to tinker around with different LCs, relics, speed tuning, etc.
So, what I've found is that in actual practice is that Tingyun is more practical to facilitating shorter cycles for Jingliu than any other unit aside from Bronya. This mostly comes down to logistics. Even if on paper, Jingliu can get to higher potential DPS with the debuffs from a debuffer, getting those debuffs on the targets you need them to be on (getting the ultimate and skill use ready every time from the debuffer everytime Jingliu needs them for her burst), while also facilitating Jingliu to get her Ult enough time to maintain her transcendent state... Just isn't very practical. Especially if using 2 debuffers together. It doesn't help that MoC is very AoE orienteered now with a unit like Silver Wolf. Getting her skill up and Ultimate up as much as you need just doesn't work out I've found.
Tingyun also has this massive edge in just being a Harmony unit and thus being able to use incredibly powerful LCs, like, say, Bronya's LC. The extra skill point + 30% dmg for burst (you get it for the Ult even with the action advance because you pre hit the Ult after you use the first skill) + 10% energy regen, if you you pre-ultimate on her correctly (with von planer set, making it so you don't need rng for Tingyun to be hit), enables Jingliu to get an extra ultimate with 100% consistency than if you don't use her. This is so massive and important in practice that I don't even feel that it's particularly close to other options (baring Bronya). Yes, you need to speed tune and use a specific setup to do this, but the gains you get from doing so are far in the way the second best option Jingliu has.
I would rank it like this: Bronya > Tingyun(with speed tuned Bronya LC+Von) > Pela > Silver Wolf > Asta. Maybe you could put Silver Wolf ahead of Pela in specific situations, but if the enemy already is ice weak or if there are duo bosses, I do feel like Pela, especially at E4 with Pearls, is superior outside of a whaled out Silver Wolf. From my own testing this is what seems to be true.
For pairings (baring Bronya since it's already clear she's the best), I would have it (Tingyun + Pela) > (Tingyun + Silver Wolf) > (Tingyun + Asta) > (Pela + Silver wolf) > (Pela + Asta) > (Silver Wolf + Asta). Again, you could perhaps put Tingyun + Silver Wolf ahead in specific situations where you really need the elemental manip, or if there is just one boss (non-MoC at that point), or if the Silver Wolf has whale levels of investment. I do really feel that Tingyun, with the right setup, is far and away Jingliu's best partner in practice.
I really can't understate enough how impactful Tingyun is paired with Jingliu on the speed-tuned Bronya LC setup with Von set. And, again, the reason she wants Von is because if you use Broken Keel, she needs to be hit or to get a kill (probably will prefer if Jingliu gets all kills anyways) to get her Ult again early consistently. You also don't want to skill when you don't need to because the 20% speed will put her ahead of your Pela or Silver Wolf unless they have more speed than Tingyun+22.4 (20%) speed, which may not be practical or worth it since you don't want your team to be too slow either.
After doing a lot of testing, I felt strongly about sharing these findings since they won't be as apparent just from looking at the on paper comparisons. As for things like E6 Yukong or Blade, I don't know how they stack up personally as I don't have them to test with. I have found that Jingliu does decent with a second DPS in general though thanks to being skill point proficient. I agree completely that she is far more flexible to build teams with than a unit like DHIL from what I've seen.
As always: relevant and high-quality content on time. Thank you Pokke!
Everytime I see comp team guides, I just get reminded that I should have maybe rerolled for Bronya when I had the chance
Same. I picked Gepard after 300 pulls. Now Hoyoverse gave me 2 more Gepards who is now E3. 😆
@@Gurenn83 with Hanya he can probably spam E every turn to freeze stuff xD
For me I’m reminded how I don’t have luocha and it pains me everyday
I prepared 9 accounts at the start of the game just to be sure that i could get me a Bronia.
...
I failed...
My mistake was not to insist. Eventually i got her from the accumulated pulls, but man... That was painful.
I'll stay strong and wait for 300 standard
What I hate is when I do Jingliu / Blade / Bronya / Luocha and on auto Bronya always picks Blade but on manual Bronya always hovers on Jingliu 😢
Why is dat it really pisses me off
Same
who has higher attack? I think her ai might be programmed to boost your highest attack unit.
Have u tried put jingliu to left edge?
@@ForTheViolence jingliu... But doesn't matter
Thanks for all the great and comprehensive videos!
For me Jingliu was a game changer and brought me fully back to HSR. Running her with Pela, Fu Xuan and a E1/S1 Bronya that I was lucky enough to get by losing my Silverwolf 50/50 (and saving Starlight to buy the light cone). As Jingliu is also my favorite character when it comes to her lore, I couldn't be happier.
wow you saved the dust? i cant even keep 20 of them 😂
instant like for these kinds of videos, keep it up huge guy
Will always be grateful to u for creating the bridge between CN math nerds and the math nerds of the rest of the world.
Can't wait to see Huohuo in Jingliu teams! Defo gonna pull on her, she just seems too good
Subbed!! This is exactly the in depth info I'm looking for that other UA-camrs doesn't have!! thanks now I know the next step I'll be taking ang that's rasing pela 🤣
Hey Mr Pokke, had a few questions; I've seen a few guides that recommend Blade + Tingyun teammates and was wondering where on the DPS Sims chart you showed in the video would this team comp be placed. Secondly, would you recommend the Tutorial Mission LC or a high superimposition Resolution LC on Pela? For context, I do not have Bronya or Silver Wolf and I am running 4pc hackerspace so I was wondering if it would be more valuable to stack more defense reduction over better energy regeneration for Pela. Thanks as always for the in-depth analysis.
0:18 F for the Bronyaless players
I feel like Bronya is like Bennett in Genshin, any DPS who can abuse there buffs and mechanics are meant to be top DPS/meta
Man I have a lot to work towards with Jingliu's Team it's gonna be a lot of work and man I wish I had a Bronya but I will make due anyway
another fantastic Team Comp Guide, will definitely refer back to this a lot!
It's just unfair, how Bronya is so good and so much harder to get, than any limited character. With 4,5+3+5 = ~ 12 tickets per month it is still more than 6 months to get her from 300 pulls garantee.
im over here with my e2 bronya wondering when the game is gonna give me a himeko
@@Sarrr1 lol, i have E2 Himeko with here LC and Clara E1... Don't intend to lvlup Himeko and not liking Clara.
same here except both are e0 with himeko LC@@ST1mAPB
game is almost 6 months old (5.7 months to be exact) and I'm only 200 pulls in
I alr got Bronya from free 5star. Doing 300 pulls isn’t hard.
MrPokke can you also do a guide on gains? im trying to do an optimal 0 cycle lat spread, but it seems like im having a skill issue not being able to pull my 50 plates irl
I wish you'd include the DPS Sim Team Comp Alternates in your Unit Analysis on your Library 😢 Would be so helpful, especially when choosing teams in MoC.
Pog video as always 🐙🐙🐙
Thank you so much for this video MrPokke
Everywhere I went said that Bronya + Ting was better than Bronya + Pela but that just didn't reflect my experience at all.
In my Jingliu, S1 Bronya, Pela, Luocha team the SP economy is just enough for Pela to be able to fit some skills here and there relatively frequently and the extra energy from these skills allows her to use Resolution instead of Tutorial for the massive +50% AoE def shred. Things just clicks too well in this team.
single target with e6 silver wolf and her light cone at s5 is way higher then the bronya/pela combo but I'm guessing that is e0 silverwolf in the spreadsheet
Jingliu motivated me to raise my Pela. I have been running them with Bronya 161 speed and it feels great
hey bro, if bronya is 161 spd, what boots should i use on jingliu ? atk or spd still?
@@xerix7772 Hey, You can use attack boots if you have a fast Bronya. After Fastya uses her basic attack she will end up behind Jingliu and then Bronya can use her skill.
Even though there are many praise surrounding Bronya. I will always choose Peela over her due to Peela’s ease of use. It’s so dumb, like wdym nothing about her supportive kit revolves around stats?😭 u can literally build her anything and she’ll do fine. She’s the most skill point friendly character (except the auto battle cuz Nihility ai are dumb as hell). In characters that are sp hungry, Pela will always be there for them. Also, can we also talk about her 42% def reduction. Then her wide ult can take advantage of Resolution that also gives 16%def. That’s 58% (50% if u dont have max refinement resolution and e3 pela) def reduction to all enemies. U can just give her a bit of ehr for the guaranteed 16% def reduction. Also her ult recharges so fast like wth. I just love Pela sm. She is arguably the best support in terms what she can provide despite being 4star , can be used to anyone cuz she is a def debuffer (even the sp hungry one), and her brain rot gameplay.
Rly been wanting Bronya for a long time but the gacha blessed me with her light cone instead 🥴 Cant wait to try her out with my Jingliu
i wish i was the one being impaled by jingliu
Uhmm 😶
Repent
Dude you speak so much better than in your first videos !
Thank u sir, gotta keep improving 🗿
Is the Blade/Jingliu DPS calculation with a Wind and Ice weakness or without any typing?
Is pela better with pearls of sweat or tutorial lightcone for jingliu?
which relic pela is using in this teams the wind one ?
if i have jingliu and kafka as my dps for moc, is using worth using tingyun for kafka when i can get insane damage outpout from bronya pela jingliu?
It would be interesting to see DMG comparison in comps that do not run sustain at all (for fastest MoC clears for example), might be good for the times when you don't need any of those units on a second team.
As for the auto team, going for bronya + blade + JL is a bit of a disaster because bronya always prioritizes Blade on autobattle for some reason, but it still works, just not as optimal
On one of your screenshots (13:56) 3 other characters (besides JL) were running the 4pc damage reduction set, can you please elaborate a little bit on what that slide was about? I assume it's for prolonged fights where you need more sustain from the health regen of the set?
from 3:14 alone one can build probably a great team
1. short fights, another unit that wants short fights is FU xuan as her healing just cant sustain many rounds, but the damage mitigation makes the team almost immortal in the first few and her giving crit chance is a great bonus for JL. allowing you to gain the full benefit
2. debuffer we have only 2 relevant ones, and both work, pella same element as JL, SW same element as Fu xuan
3. Bronja. Bronja
team: JL bronja, SW/Pella, Fu xuan
well said 🗿
I run the same team; JL, Bronya, SW, FX. Haven't run into any content yet where anything is threatening enough for me to want an Abundance.
Bronja
Bronja
If ur Fuxuan can’t sustain a long run then that’s just bad build and skill issue
Jingliu + welt + Pela + whatever sustain is perfect for the second half of MoC 10, all the enemies have ice and imaginary weaknesses. And welt reliable AoE ultimate does big dmg with reliable imprisonment, plus the 12% dmg vulnerability debuff.
Jinglu Blade, Lynx/Bailu, Pela/Bronya Tingyun. But I use is a troll team full Quintet Blade, Jing liu, DHIL and JIng yuan/Bailu
Im glad pela has been getting more recognition :) her defense down is broken and shes F2P
I agree, but she has been getting more recognition since 1.1, I believe. Had her on 70 for a long time and last patch, I got her to 80.
so if i understand it right, it would be better to build jingliu with atk boots if my bronya is e2 and have 134 speed right?
Is broken keel preferred over fleet of ageless for supports (since atk buff is much useless?) or are the differences negligible. I was gonna end up just farming ruliant arena either ways so was wondering if supports are worth upgrading with feel on all three or if its similar output with fleet of ageless?
Keel is better, and W7 is so good to farm. No reason not to use them! (3x keel has noticeably higher DMG output than 3x fleetless)
I can only 0 cycle with keel! Hope that helps
Idk if I missed it but what gear set are these numbers based on?
Can’t wait for my Jingliu - Bronya - Pela - Huohuo team to come through!
Im going for blade and bronya/pela, it looks very auto-mode friendly and im lazy 😅
The problem i have is im running a high speed bronya with blade with no speed, so i dont have no buffer for blade if i use her on jingliu and therefore am stuck with tingyun+pela which honestly doesnt feel that bad cuz of how i get like 5-6 spectral transmigration in a row
We've known it all along but it only becomes more and more true over time...Bronya is simply her. It feels like a waste of breath to talk about how broken this character is but I must pay my respect to the goat. (Also a huge Pela fan because of how effortlessly powerful she is)
nice vid, but my fav due to synergy and waifu and abit of whaling is Jingliu, SW, Bronya & my E4 FX with sig LC, all 3 supports with Broken Keel for maximum uptime & crit dmg stacking
At this point every star rail guide is an advertisement of Her Majesty Bronya 😘
Wait until hanabi comes and dethroned her in 2 more patches
@@invertbrid well, bronya in 1st team, hanabi in 2nd. So ye, her value will be super high.
@@Cinbrior both of them together in one team and your dps doing 6 turns per cycle.
doing Jing + Pela + Blade, what should my sustain be? E2 Lynx or Bailu with S1?
ive not built pela yet, but i've got silverwolf - am i missing out on much by not building pela? I don't have a lot of resources to spend...im using E1S1 jingliu, E2S1 Bronya, E0S1 silverwolf, and E0S1 luocha currently.
Im kinda in an awkward speed breakpoint.. my jingliu is at 149(spd boots) with 147 bronya, should I tune it down to 134 and switch to atk boots ?
also and the bigges part: She works easily on auto-mode. I can clear MOC10 with autobattle 0o
Interesting, she do so much with so many teams
My man looks good.
another day lamenting the fact I dont have Bronya. but I'm already destroying everything with Tingyun+Pela anyways
My Team is not yet developed enough to use Bronya + Pela(E4) as I run out of skill points due to fight being longer than 1-2 cycles.
This unit surpassed my expectations. She made my Swarm 5 and MoC 10 runs way more comfy. As a Bronya-less person, it's good to see her comp improves to such a higher extent with Bronya. Which is something to look up to, once you reach 300 pulls eventually.
for me kafka is still the best unit in SU. I have both at e0s1 but shes just too broken with nihility
@@Bos_MeongNihility is just a broken path alongside Remembrance when it comes to braindead gameplay. You dont even need dot characters for Nihility path. I’ve seen Natasha solo swarm 5 with Nihility path.
Nice, slaking is my favourite Pokémon
I knew getting bronya twice with her weapon twice would come in handy later
Have to build Pela now apparently. And Bronya. Should have her team ready to go by Christmas. A bit sad that blade drops the damage so much; I loved the idea of the sub dps
All I can say is know your Jingliu's dmg, you dont need to always wait for the second skill use to enter her enhanced state if you know youre gonna kill the enemies with her burst + enhanced E
i personally use Blade/Jinglui/Fu Xuan/ Tingyun , i might not have the highest cleartime possible, but it is consistent for longer battles aswell. and i can buff my blade aswell for more dmg.
and i use 2nd team: Lynx / SW / Seele/Bronya.
Pela at autoplay seems to use her skill a lot. Making it a huge problem to get consistent SP
Still 70 regular passes away from choosing Bronya, so I guess I'll be able to pick her up somewhere next year maybe. Bummer.
i hope future guides has a different camera angle or just look into the camera from time to time.
I still prefer Jingliu with Blade to compensate the DPS downtime when Jingliu is not in her ST state. Also, you won't even notice Blade's 5 stack talent count. It just hits out of the blue.
But that’s why Bronya is so good, she fixes her downtime
Wasn't the optimal Bronya behavior at 160 SPD the normal -> skill rotation with JL ATK% boots, not skill spam Bronya? I remember seeing preliminary calcs of that rotation being competitive 134 Bronya rotations early because the turn advance on Bronya normal allowing you to get double turn behavior on Jingliu, just at lower speed, but with ATK % boots on JL.
7:06 I think AE Bronya means basic attack → skill Bronya, so the calcs already took the optimal rotation with ATK% boots JL as consideration for the final dmg numbers.
What is the % damage difference between Fast Bronya and Slow Bronya when running her with Jingliu? Is it negligible ?
7:06
If I'm reading it right, 134 Bronya has 5.15% or about 75k more dmg than 161+ Bronya (across 7+ cycles perhaps? But lesser dmg in the first few cycles it seems). So yeah, the difference is pretty negligible unless the battle drags on up to 10+ cycles. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
Personally, I'd run 161+ Bronya for more team flexibility, such as enabling using skills every so often with E4 Pela or upcoming SP-hungry support/sustain characters.
Thank you! I was having a hard time understanding what the X axis was supposed to represent. Crazy to think that 75k is 5% of dmg, because that seems like a lot. I'm assuming that means you're missing out at around 10k dmg per cycle? Also it feels counterintuitive that slowya would outdmg fastya because you'd think that fastya having more turns would equate to Jingliu being in her enhanced state more often. @@JamesHadriel
161 Bronya is better for normal people, because she gets to auto attack, it's like auto-E-E-auto rotation
Pokke advising is for 0 cycles not really the normal gameplay
Was wondering how the upcoming HuoHuo pairs into a JL/Pela/Bronya team. I want to pull for a 5* sustain other than my boy Geppo who I don’t think works too well with JL and still torn between saving for Otto or trying for HuoHuo.
I would say HuoHuo. Providing energy while still having 5* sustain is very good. I'm currently using Bailu and she is already enough to sustain Jingliu comfortably so I would assume HuoHuo is more than enough sustain-wise
Btw, anyone who is using bronya+dps (jing liu) and was speed tune properly and wonder why sometimes bronya speed just overtake ur dps, making dps act before bronya skill, check if ur bronya is using Messenger Traversing Hackerspace set.
If u do, then that is the reason, it make ur dps speed buff expired faster than bronya, resulting in bronya overtaking turns
If we consider pairing jingliu and blade with bronya, how would you personally speedtune them? 135-134 jingliu-bronya with base speed blade or try fastya with both base speed jingliu and blade? 135 jingliu-blade + 134 bronya may be too skill point negative for the last flex to keep up.
I wanna try that rotation you suggest. Right for now, I don’t have spd boots for JL, but gonna speedtune her with bronya 135/134spd and make blade 134 spd if I get better spd boots( now he has HP BOOTS WITH 18%cr and CD). And also making luocha super fast, wanna go over 161spd (154 for now). In this case it will be very effective to use 3* LC “multiplication” so he can do 2 turns every cycle. I also have bronya with her sign. LC, and probably will get her E1 when I reach 300 pulls( not soon haha, 100 left). If we have enough sp, JL will make 4 stacks for blade in 1 cycle, and 134spd blade makes at least 3 stacks for himself( without ult). So we guaranteed that he will get 7 stacks in 1st cycle, if he ults with >50%hp he needs only 2 hits to do 2 bonus attacks.
@@SlL222 it maybe a good idea to try, but then we should consider whether luocha with multiplication can sustain that team. We have fast Jingliu (who takes a lot of team hp) and fast Blade (who loses a lot of own hp) , which can be too much. That's why i am thinking of making a slow blade to reduce the burden on both sp and hp consumption, or even making both jingliu and blade slow and just let bronya Q once in awhile if i need SP.
@@huule6106 I think luocha can sustain enough, cuz his passive auto-heal from skill can be cast every cycle.
Do we run 134 SPD (1 SPD slower than Jingliu) Bronya without factoring in the 4pc Hackerspace 12% boost?
I don't think 4pc hackerspace is worth the headache with slow bronya. If you don't time the ultimate right then your bronya will pass blade
hey i love your guides but if you would allow one point of criticism. a lot of graphs and charts are in chinese but it would help greatly if it was in english too. it would help digest the big amount of information we're getting a lot easier.
anyway great vid as always mate 👍
Jingliu Supremacy
I was wondering if there's any info on how E6 Jing Liu effects the teammates? Does Ting Yuns ult gen gain more value to keep Jing Liu permanently in her enhanced state? Or does it not matter because Bronya is so busted lol
I believe e6 kills everything before you need to leave state
The answer is you used both.
Is it worth to go for the LC as a f2p? I don’t want huo huo or argenti coming up but do want black swan whenever she comes. Is the dmg increase with her LC pretty big or is it only like 10% better than the herta store one?
Her LC is huge on her afaik. I think about 22% better than S5(!) Fall? Defense reduction scales like crazy.
Having 1 remaining mob on low HP wastes JL enhanced state and is such a momentum killer.
So even Pela + Bronya provides more damage, Ting Yun + Bronya is just more effective. Plus, it’s so much more fun.
The problem is tingyun could be used on the other team while pela not so much
My comp is
Jingliu - ice set + energy
Lynx - shared feelings LC
Tingyun
Sub DPS Fu xuan
The goal is to use the shared feelings lightcone to get her 5 energy with lynx skill. Jungliu takes the aggro for more energy regen, Tingyun tops her energy off. Fu xuan boost damage a bit as well as mitigates some damage since jingliu is going to hold aggro. As a result junglius talent is up as much as possible.
There is no such thing as Sub DPS Fu Xuan. She is either good Fu Xuan meaning she can solo sustain, or bad Fu Xuan meaning she can't solo sustain.
@@MihaiAzsub dps def viable, especially good at E6. U dont need such massive HP and DEF investment just to make her solo sustain current contents, so can just get more crit and crit dmg while reducing some tankiness so she can deal some dmg as well, especially in battle with lot of mobs.
But yea def harder to get the relics for sure, as now u need focus HP DEF speeed, crits
@@MihaiAzDamn bro, you must be completely F2P. Which I respect, but E1 S1 Fu xuan is definitely a sub dps / solo sustainer. And even a main DPS in sim universe content.
@@MihaiAzalso I don’t know if you noticed or not, but she doesn’t have to solo sustain on my team. Lynx is also there.
My comp is JL, Bronya, Tingyun, Luocha. JL in transcended state from the beginning till the end of battle
If I use 134 Bronya (E1) do I have to make Jingliu on 135 speed? Or can I use ATK boots on her?
Speed 135 for sure, unless u can get 135 without speed boots
I personally use Jingliu + SW + Pela + Fuxuan/Lynx because i'm running the Quantum set on Jingliu.
I didnt farm the ice set bcs i dont have DPS wind character and no ice unit previously, and i farmed alot on Quantum set due to having Seele so yeah.
The damage is good and versatile but not as big as the Bronya + Pela, i do have Bronya E0S1 and E6 Pela.
I still use the Quantum teamcomps for Jingliu on MoC bcs of versatility and comfort.
Also why i dont use Yukong is bcs Yukong needs a lot of SP if not she'll have little to no function in the team except for Imaginary breaks but E6 kinda help with that a bit. Since Jingliu is more of a frontloaded, Jingliu need those buff ASAP on the first 3 turn of hers and Yukong doesn't compliment that while unit like Pela/Silverwolf/Bronya/Tingyun can support well outside of their ult.
what is optimal 134 speed Bronya build for JL team?
jingliu is 'extremely extremely' fun to play
Should I build a super fast pela like 160 if I play with 135 bronya and 136 Jing liu or should i build pela just fast enough to outspeed them? Or it dosnt really matter?
Debuffers have no downside to being really fast, just rmb to keep EHR/energy/health up
@@mrpokkee gotcha thanks!
As this is the earliest I've ever been. I cannot provide a satisfactory comment hence oonga boonga video was gud
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Did the "short fights" label can only be attached on jingliu? Even though she's low sp consumer? How about DHIL who must spend an entire sp to provide good damage?
Just played this game for 2-3 weeks, still confused how to differentiate whether the characters good or not
Both are amazing in short and longer battles. But with Jingliu you'd have to be careful of her hp drain, as it seems insignificant at first, but the accumulated hp loss will get noticeable if you don't have a healer. While DanIL you still have to manage his sp consumption in every battle.
Cause as battle carries on Ur bronya and jingliu need to use both skill.Then u can't use other supp skill for 1 turn
Kinda like this
Need 3 sp to re-enter buff state
1 -Jingliu E
1 Bronya to push jingliu up
1- Jingliu again
This need s 3 sp which becomes problem down the road when u need to heal or recast something.
But manageable with knowing what Ur doing
Pokke so comfy xD
i have 137 bronya and 139 JL. is it okay? im not sure why we need specifically 134 bronya 135 jingliu
Glad I got Bronya from losing my 50/50 on Jingliu's banner, and have enough saving to get both Jingliu + her signature
Wouldn't tingyun be bad with bronya at 134 spd? Jingliu attacks twice every time once before bronya and once after bronya. This makes tingyun E buff disappear every turn meaning to keep it up tingyun becomes 100% sp negative right? And how would bronya team work with hou hou?
Need help guys, I only recently pulled Huohuo and Bronya. How should I tune team in terms of speed for both JL and Bronya. Bronya has no sig LC, JL with sig LC, Huouo no sig LC. Just an additional note, I also have Pela e4 in the team.
If enemies are not hyper aggressive and you can survive 1 HuoHuo's turn without healing for sp +0.5 rotation, go for slow bronya+ auto only SP positive Pela, if enemies are too aggressive and you need permanent skill uptime on HuoHuo, go for Fastya.
I got e1 bronya and it is insane how much damage she enables.
Must the speed difference of Bronya and Jingliu always be 1? Will 137 speed Jingliu & 135 speed Bronya work as well?
that works, you just want both of them to be above 134 and jing to have higher spd than bronya. Tho it should be as close as possible since it saves spd subs and allows you to get more crit dmg if the relics allow
Speedtuning is only for minmax. I built my bronya to be as fast as possible and ive had no issues 3 starring moc10
I’m 47 pulls away from guaranteed Bronya and it’s so tempting to use these jades I have saved up for Topaz to just get Bronya instead
Unfortunately i didn't get Jingliu when i tried to obtain more Tingyun copies, instead all i got was more than E6 of Qingque copies that turns into exchange points😢. I also dont have Bronya and with that, i think ill just save up pity for Topaz and build up a FuA team instead since i already had Blade doing very well as my main DPS now. Since im so lucky with QingQue copies i guess i also had to use Qq as another DPS then.
I 0 cycle full MoC 10 with Jingliu Loucha Bronya Blade on 1st half then 2nd half DHIL FuXuan Tingyun Yukong ❤
wait wait, you are talking about using Jingliu with ATK boot and barely any SPD and Bronya on 134SPD and do Basic/Skill/Basic/Skill? or to use Bronya on a Full SP Negative and run Bronya as a pure Buffer instead of an Advance Forward unit?
Wouldn't it be better to run Jingliu on 135 and Bronya on 134 and make Jingliu do 2 turns per bronya?
Using Lynx or March to manipulate aggro onto Jingliu so she gets an extra ultimate is a viable strat. There may even be situations where it's preferable to use an energy rope if you are just a bit short from getting it using this method. An extra ult can often be the difference between a 0 or 1 cycle clear in some stages.
Mr Pokke, could you do a CN damage analysis of Jingliu vs. Dan Heng IL?
Second to this, JL E0S1 seems won in short battle, but seems IL still better if long battle. But game not hard enough anyway to go to that point.
Tho would be nice to see actual calculation.
@@invertbrid At E0S1 according to team calculations Jingliu actually deals more damage in both short and longer battles. Take note that these calculations are done with E0S1 five stars, and E6 four stars.
Jingliu's team: Bronya Pela Luocha
DanIL's team: Tingyun Pela Luocha
(DanIL benefits more from E6 Tingyun than E0 Bronya)
DanIL deals higher damage per hit with his enhanced basic attack (253,735 dmg), but Jingliu gets more turns with her enhanced skill (205,954 dmg) and ultimate (139,340 dmg), resulting in higher total damage in both short and longer battles.
In a battle of 8 rounds, Jingliu deals a total of 3,182,145 damage while DanIL deals a total of 3,063,299 damage.
Didn't he say CN already concluded that E0 Jingliu is better already, but not with eidolons?
With e0s1 bronya and fu xuan as sustain in the pela team im really struggling with skillpoints and cant make use of pelas e4 too mich yet. I rrally cant wait for 300 standart pulls to get e1 bronya
Sorry but this is skill issue already. My tip to you is you are not obligated to use a skill every turn for Pela and FX.
@@darika3672 Hmmm. I usually just spam Basic attacks on pela and only use Fu Xuan skills when the field blinks
Is Pela still better than Tingyun if Jingliu is using Clara's LC and ice set instead of genius ?
Is Fu Xuan a better team mate than Bailu/Lynx?
I thought her mitigation didn't help with JL's team hp drain
She is enough to solo sustain if you are able to spam her ult with energy rope and signature/landau's/gepard's lc. Only problem is that she is forced to use sp every three turns which can be awkward if you also use bronya and pela (E4). If you don't have sp problems then she's better than bailu or lynx
i cant believe they allow hypercarry > synergy(with blade). synergystic gameplay is much more fun to play and i wish topaz would enable more synergistic gameplay
nice jacket