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WHY Do People Love the BOX OF ROCK?! | Gear Corner
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- Опубліковано 21 лип 2021
- #boxofrock #guitarpedals
I was pretty disappointed when I got the Z.Vex Box of Rock. How come I love it now?
Find out all about this very interesting pedal in the video!
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Timestamps:
Introduction
0:25 Intro playing | Tele
1:06 What is the Box of Rock?
1:19 Playing | Les Paul
1:39 Important fact about the pedal
2:15 Playing | Strat
2:51 Why did I choose this pedal?
3:12 Playing | mud...
3:23 Why was I so disappointed?
3:45 Playing | REVV clean channel
4:28 Playing | amp with the Box of Rock
5:02 Then I figured out something...
5:38 Playing | Strat
6:07 Playing PJD St. John | with and without boosting the pedal
7:08 My conclusion
7:32 Playing | PJD St. John | with EQ pedal
Gear used in this video:
(the Bitly links are Thomann affiliate links)
-Fender Telecaster Custom Shop '53 reissue
(a similar custom shop tele: bit.ly/2KFVJld)
-Gibson Les Paul Custom Shop '58 reissue bit.ly/2FxKvek
-Barocsi "Frankenstrat" (2000 Fender American Standard body + Warmoth neck)
-Z.Vex Box of Rock: bit.ly/2QHE3aO
-BOSS OD-1
-BOSS GE-7: bit.ly/3aSAvMH
Ibanez Tube Screamer TS808: bit.ly/2OsWtJU
-UAFX Golden Reverb: bit.ly/3vS36JN
-REVV Dynamis 7/40 head: bit.ly/2IxwoId
-Universal Audio OX BOX bit.ly/2IyOeuj
-Two Notes Captor X: bit.ly/33FPfcW
-One Control Agamidae switcher: bit.ly/2YZgiib
-Ernie Ball cables and strap: bit.ly/2Io0dfg
-Cordial CRI series cables: bit.ly/2XiVLBR
-Evidence Audio patch cables: bit.ly/2Ixylo1
Other gear I use in my videos:
-Harley Benton Fusion-II Roasted SSP bit.ly/31FVawf
-Gibson Les Paul CM 2015 - heavily modified (thin nitro refin; Lollar Dog Ear P90; Emerson electronics)
-Barocsi Troublecaster - Custom built T-style guitar with Gretsch Filtertrons
-Honey Bee Double Trouble: bit.ly/33COaU3
-Walrus Audio D1 Delay: bit.ly/2W4McqU
-REVV G2: bit.ly/2NbpV9R
-Tate FX Antares overdrive www.tatefx.co.uk/
-Walrus Audio Lillian phaser: bit.ly/3czfxB8
-Analogman King of Tone analogman.com
-Tate FX Raise the Dead Ge: tatefx.co.uk
-Dunlop Gypsy Fuzz pedal: bit.ly/2VKw4K0
-J Rockett Archer overdrive: bit.ly/2Ges1z8
-Morgan 1x12 cab Twilight: bit.ly/2KFihDq
-NUX SOS Looper bit.ly/31TMxPx
The speech mic:
-SENNHEISER MKH 416: bit.ly/2w1EAMP
Audio Interface:
-Audient iD44: bit.ly/2Jo73zN
Check out the Thomann Music channel for some wicked guitar videos:
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Cheers,
Kris
As an amp builder who loves JTM45's i can say this.... the JTM45 needs just the right speakers ... Marshall's earliest version was a 4x10 with alnico 10's... moving forward from there were the 12" Alnico speakers ... both of which exhibit a nice tight bottom ... when alnico was too expensive and rare Celestion moved to ceramic magnets.... in my personal experience a Gold and Blue Celestion alnico are fantastic.... also, the G12m 25 watt Greenies and the vintage G12H 30 watt Greenies with the 75 hZ lead cones are all stellar options for the JTM45 ... i run mine with KT66 power tubes and the speakers noted above with no mud... all these speakers have tight bass which offsets any woofiness from a vintage made JTM or vintage style clone of the JTM45.... at the end of the day you need the 'frosting' to make an amp shine and exhibit its greatness !!
UA-camr Johan Segeborn has done a fantastic job documenting all of this history .... check out his videos of the JTM45 history :-)
I think it really depends on the goal of your sound. Best sounding Marshall set up I ever heard is a JCM800sc into an emperor 112 cab with a weber grey wolf in it. Boosted with an EQD Plumes, it was the most gnarly metal tones I've ever heard. Blew me away and I've been chasing that sound ever since. I think I'm just gonna have to copy it, a Marshall in a box pedal is not gonna do it for me.
If you want the early Clapton Bluesbreaker tones use Celestion Heritage 20W's, that's what was in Eric's amp, not the alnicos. These nail the tone, sting and voice of his playing - you'll hear that instantly. Listen to Phillip J's Have You Heard take # 3 on YT where he uses a 4×12 of those 20W Heritage Celestions and thank me later.
Absolutely agree, and the same can be said about any rig. Speaker selection is huge, and often overlooked. I think most players would be better off experimenting with speakers rather than dirt pedals. Finding the right speaker for your amp makes all pedals sound better.
Hey Mark. What are your tube preferences for JTM45 amps? Just curious.. Thanks
I guess I have told already that putting a Screamer in front of the DS-1 works superb as well. That's a lesson both about the Marshall sound and the Screamer sound. Thanks, Kris. A great video.
The BoR is so dynamic, and cleans up so well, you can just leave it on and roll back the guitar volume for your clean sound. In this scenario you can just turn down the bass on your amp to compensate for the BoR’s fat low end. Hit the BoR with an OD for leads/more gain.
Another option is the ZVEX Distortron. It has a 3-way subs switch that reduces bass, as well as a high/low gain switch. Great pedal.
I run mine in front of a crappy Marshall 25W transistor amp with a Joyo American Sound between both of them. That way every pedal in my chain gets the right "clean" platform to shine as they are meant to, even when the Marshall amp is set all clean. I really love my 2010 Box of Rock for low to mid gain. I can really hear a lot of harmonics there that does not show while using my other OD/distortion pedals (Catalinbread´s DLS, 5F5, Formula 55 / Fulltone OCD). It has a lot of low end, but still my favourite.
I had the same problem with the Bogner Ecstasy Blue Mini (another amp in a box...sorta a Plexi), i liked it in studio but live not so much...i put a Tubescreamer in front of it, and now i LOVE it, sounds amazing! Great tip for this kind of pedals Kris!
Very interesting, as always!
My favourite sounds are created with a Xotic BB Preamp in front of a BluGuitar amp1 (1st Edition). Mainly for the Blues I use the "fendery" Clean channel and the "marshally" overdrive channels of the amp with 2010 CS 58 Reissue Les Paul (Stock Humbucker) and a 1986 ES 335 with Tim Shaw PUs. Love to have a P90 driven Les Paul in the future, too.
That´s all I need until the end....maybe ;-)
Greetings from Germany!
Ahh yeah, the Amp1. Great tones and it takes pedals really well too. Awesome choice with the Xotic too. 🙌
Box of rock ist always on (JCM 800/2204) in front of the Box a Tubescreamer, a modded RAT, Treblebooster & a Wah. Fantastic 🎸 great video 👍
So yeah just like this I have an AC30 for those sparkling cleans but I dirty it up with Bluesbreaker type overdrives based on the Clapton JTM 45 sound. Again these can get quite muddy so I use the Duellist by King Tone... That has a Bluesbreaker at the back and a TS in the front. I have the Bluesbreaker at about 12 O'clock and the TS gain down and Vol up... its that cream sound all day!
That's exactly how I use the BOR. I put J Rockett Blue Note in front and it sounds amazing. It's been in pedal board for more than a decade now. Great Job!
I’ve had the BoR for many years & played it through many different amps and I agree with the majority of your thoughts. Personally, I’ve found it to work best with most British style amps in general. I played it through an AC15 for years & got the best tones through that. Fattened up the low end & created a great OD when needed. Using the Boost side of the pedal (The best part of the pedal imho) as a clean boost can really help create a well rounded tone on any amp. It does take some tweaking between the amp & pedal but once you find it, the pedal really helps creates a unique character all of its own.
Kris, thanks for another informative review! I dig your videos as they always focus on the practical side of things and help answer questions which are not typically asked. I have the BOR, which similarly to you, I always found lacking somewhat. The tone control is too limited - either too harsh or too muddy. It really needs a 3 band EQ. I tried to give it some "help" through a Boss EQ pedal (as you suggest yourself), an Analogman Beano (treble booster) and a Lovepedal Kalamazoo (Klon style OD), but I never got satisfactory results until I bought a Friedman Smallbox OD. That pedal sounds awesome on its own even with everything at noon and has further tweakability through the 4 band EQ and additional gain stage. You just can't get a bad sound out of it. I still have the BOR on my pedalboard but I only use it for the boost function and (more rarely) for some light hair / jangly tones. Keep up the good work!
I have the Box O' Rock, I use it through a Marshall JCM800 50 watt 2x12 (4104) and a Fender Deluxe Reverb Reissue, I've had the pedal for at least 10 years and use it just like you said. I always thought of it as an amps preamp section and run my Keeley modded Tube Screamer into it. I keep both amps set pretty much clean and it works great. Other great things about this pedal is you have a great booster in it and that booster can be used independently of the main section of the Box O Rock. What do you think of the boost section?
Awesome rig Mark! I really like the boost too, tons of volume on tap and a nice character.
Sticking a good treble booster in front works too! Great vid! 👍😁
Yeah most folks hear’ treble booster’ and think ‘hell naw” but they can make your highs equally distorted to your lows, then just turn down the treble on the amp. Black Sabbath’s first album tone and Brian May’s sound are all the proof.Preaching to the concerted here.
Thanks Kris for your channel. Enjoying your playing and insights. Placing a mid-focused pedal in front of the BOR makes sense for the reasons you gave. But just to clarify, I think the Zvex Box of Rock pedal was designed to emulate the sound of a cranked-up JTM45, not necessarily to be run into one. Unless you have some special insights from the manufacturer to that effect. Still, there is value in your advice of a mids push on the wider-EQ BOR. (This would be true for many pedal stacking combos- Eg., found the same thing to be true with the new Benson Germanium Preamp- I'm having a good effect from driving it with a Klon, for example, or slight mid-humped GE-7). Cheers
Thanks so much! When I did my research for this video I found a few old videos made by Zvex and they used a JTM clean with the BoR. 🤷♂️ That’s why I said that in my video. Could be wrong though, or just partially true but it kinda makes sense.
The King of Tone gives me my Marshall sounds. I run it into a Super Reverb Reissue (Wet) and a Dr. Z Maz 18 Mark II (Dry). Sometimes I throw a Beano Boost in front of it.
the new mxr duke of tone also works great ...no wonder it's based on the King of Tone 😉
Amo tus videos bro, no se como no tenes mas visitas, tus videos tienen el balance perfecto entre charla y guitar playing. La mayoria de otros videos de guitarra son pura charla o shredding sin sentido.
Love your channel Kris. Liked the vid a lot. Not a Marshall guy myself. I do own a Reverb 12. But rarely use it. But nice in the studio for a Marshall sound. This might be sacralidge to some but I happen to really love my Tweed Blues Jr. IV with an emmenence speaker. AND even more heretically I took two OD's out of my peddle chain recently. I bought a used Tdrive by Vertex. If I could afford a Trainwreck amp I would run it and NO pedals. But alas... so I make do with a Keeley Oxblood > Tdrive>Big Muff>Keeley Compressor+>Keeley Caverns. I'm good right there. Keep makin' the vids I'll keep watchin. Take care my friend and be well.
I find the Friedman Golden Pearl also makes the Box of Rock sound fantastic.
Great vid, Kris!
Thanks Laszlo! All Friedman pedals are insanely good!
you must try out the zvex distortron pedal...it`s a box of rock without the boost, but with a low-cut switch with 3 positions. I have it since 2010 and no other pedal does it for me. stacks with other drive pedals like a dream...for example exotic bb preamp , dod yjm or with any kind of tubescreamer.......very great pedal..
Thanks for the heads up, I have to try it out now. :) cheers
Great review and analysis. May I suggest placing the (Xotic Super Clean) pedal before the (Box of Rock), I have mine set up like that, and it sounds AMAZING!
what does the Clean do???
My go to Marshall in a box is Weehbo JCM drive. It has 2 channels - JTM and JCM(800). It's got 18 volt switch where it is extremely dynamic. Being on my board for 8 years now and it's a home feeling on any stage and combo
Thanks Kris, for another informative video, with some nice playing as usual!
I must admit I have been a bit confused by amp in a box pedals. I usually just end up preferring playing straight into the amp, maybe with an overdrive.
Still want those Marshall JTM/Plexi/JCM 800 sounds though, without buying all the amps and trying to find a way to get them to work at apartment levels….
Thanks again, hope you are doing well.
Maybe the "Academy of Tone"-Channel of Thomas Blug is a good hint for you - and maybe you end up with the amp1 - like me!
My intention was the same as yours - now over 5 years ago!
@@chrisforever1255 thanks Chris, yes the amp1 looks (sounds) very good from the demos I’ve seen.
Looks like you have a lot of fun with your Humbucker/P-90 Hybrid (I forgot the name, shame shame :-D
Dude, it’s such a good guitar! It’s a PJD Guitars St John. It’s already my 3. favourite guitar and I tend to choose it over my LP more and more often. Which might make it my 2. fav. pretty soon. 😅
@@KrisBarocsi Good job from PJD I would say 💪
I dunno ... who actually does want a Marshall sound when you can buy a VH4?
(;-)
but i do admit: i stack pedals too but i tend to use a Ranger type pedal or a GE-7 to clean up the mud
AND horror ...
i used a TubeScreamer in front of an MT-2 .... works!
I bought one, (I think 2006 - s/n 3xx) and never got along with it. However - I still own the pedal! Your point of putting an overdrive in front of it makes totally sense to me. Will try it tomorrow as soon as my dear wife leaves for work... My point is that these MIAB style of pedals should be reviewed and played the proper way. To show the audience (viewers/followers) it has to be played as (in this case) Zachary ment to. Early Clapton/Zep/Free/ZZ Top/AC/DC- kind of vibes. How many self-proclaimed Internet guitar/heroes/gear reviewers have missed that!!? Great review whatsoever... Don't missunderstand me, Kris - You're not one of them... ;-D I've run it through my Marshalls, Fenders, Blackstars with Fenders, Gibson and Gretsch's. Luckely I own a TS808 so I can work on your theories...
golden brownie...but i sandwich it with a kloncopy(as od) and a joyo(h-b) american...
into mooer radar(poweramp sim) into two baby bombs into a laney 2x12 split...
and some other stuff for space and wobble :)
With the od 1 I think that’s the best tone I’ve heard in a loooong time!
The OD-1 tends to do that to most pedals. Haha! It’s insane. If you like the OD-1 you might wanna tune in in a few weeks. I have a dedicated episode coming up. 💪🥳
Had a Box of Rock and came to the same conclusion using a Maxon OD808 in front of it. But later I traded it for Mad Professor Little Green Wonder and kept the Maxon. The Mad Professor was just more useful and less murky. The Box wasnt a bad pedal at all, but I couldnt afford both at the time.
I guess this episode can apply to any pedal. Sometimes I need to turn the knobs thousand times to get it right.
I have made my own rules - not to judge any pedals unless turning the knobs for at least a day.
Cool video, I use a Teisco boost (in EP3 mode) into a Nobels ODR-1 (with the bass cut engage) into a Laney L5-Studio or a Catalinbread DLS into the clean channel.
These tips works with loads of "amp in a box" pedals. For example Catalibread Dirty little secret is luckluster for many for this reason.
Personaly for "cranked" Marshal soudn, so far Xotic BB Preamp + EQD Bows (treble booster) work wonders. Mainly if you ride your volume/tone pot a lot.
Ive been using it into my DSL15 clean channel (as the dirty channel is over the top dirty), but works also into Fender Champion (the old one) or Peavy Classic 50.
On forums, I countered so many missunderstanding of this, like: "oh, its Marshall voiced pedal, why do you stick it into Marshall amp? Just plug straight into your amp and play you dumbo" ... And many worse ...
Great video as alwasy Kris.
love my wampler pantheon, boosted by a TS9...
I use a ‘59 Bassman clone, and this circuit rules in that amp. But, I’m sure you know why.
I'm interested to try this pedal. I have Marshall Origin and it is amazing pedal platform amp. I want to find perfect plexi style pedal. At the moment I'm using Tone city Golden Plexi, but I'm not quite sure how good it simulates the real plexi. The sound is good though.
I’ve got the golden plexi as well and looking to get the BOR. Did you ever get it? How did it compare?
Dude! Great vid! I landed here PRECISELY because I was about to throw my BoR out of the house for good. I decided to do some research on it and found your channel. Thanks for rescuing my pedal!
Haha, awesome man, glad to hear that. 💪
Bogner ecstasy red pedal is what i ended up with , try one for yourself and see what happens , Peace.
Because it Looks so Cool. WE do listen with our eyes. Just ask FuzzFace.
I'm a little confused. At one point you say the JTM 45 has "way less bass-end" than some of your other amps and but later say that the hand-wired, reissue amp you played was "muddy" I assume due to an excessive amount of "bass-end"? And hence the need to tighten things up with a mid-ranged focused overdrive.
Hi, the handwired reissue I played didn’t have a huge amount of low-end until I cranked it. Those amps sound more midrangy and chimey when played clean-ish. If you turn up both channels for a distorted sound, the amp becomes muddy. That’s what I meant. 👍
@@KrisBarocsi Cool. Thanks for clarifying that. What you said about the pedal being designed to capture the cranked JTM 45 sound while having the JTM 45 set for a clean'ish sound makes perfect sense now. So does your experience of using the pedal with other amps that have that low-end already in its clean sound. I've connected the dots now. Thanks! Great video too by the way.
I love my BoR but considered stacking something into it to tame the bass a little. My thoughts are a Timmy rather than a TS to get the bass cut without mid hump. They’re designed to push Marshall amps anyway right? Do you think this is a better option or stump for the TS808 instead?
Use a Mud Honey by T Rex on mine, sounds mint into and old carlsbro pa 60 valve head. Speakers are vintage 30s
Kris ciao,thank for the video.I saw that you are using the torpedo, do you recommend it for home use on a 20 watt amp?you advise the box of rock on a fender amp type like the new Bassbreaker15? Thank you very much,grazie mille.Mauro
Thx i got wampler tumnus deluxe in front of BoR.
So I’m looking at padding the input of my amp to get a ultra clean tone from my high output guitar, I like a bright clean amp and minimal speaker breakup. I’m finding my favorite tones with the volume slightly rolled off and amp on the loud side. I’m currently dropping the level with an EQ -12db (no shaping just a level cut) just before the amp’s input.
Should I just make a pedal with a 500k volume pot and turn it down a bit or add a second input Jack what a -20dB on the amp itself??
Amp in question is a fender champion 100.
Padding the loop quiets the amp but padding the input cleans it up. I’m not looking for quiet I’m looking for clean!!!
Have a great week
Oh
REVV G3 for Metaaaaaaaaal,
Joyo Sweet baby for gritty Slightly broken crunch.
Hey dude, I think I’d stick to an EQ to back off the guitar’s volume. First of all you can go in minus db so it does the job. And on top you can shape the clean padded tone. That’s just awesome.
@@KrisBarocsi thanks for the advice Sir, cutting on my amps is fun but getting another EQ pedal does seem less problematic.
EQ it’s like the greatest pedal that doesn’t get enough hype.
Have a great weekend Sir.
You got affiliate links to any retailers I should use when I my next EQ?
Would the Pedalpalfx series be a better fit with fender amps? Thanks. Take care.
You absolutely nailed it!! 🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻
Ah Kris!!! Thank you so much for this video!! I have been looking to sell my JTM amp for some time now, but fortunately, I still have it. I absolutely love to try the Box of Rock with it now!! Thanks again 🤘😁🤘
That’s awesome! Definitely try this one with your JTM. Cheers
@@KrisBarocsi ohhh I will!!... Gonna be making a Thomann Order some time soon 😋
@@LilGuyBigVoice poor wallet, lucky ears. 🥳
@@KrisBarocsi 😂😂 the G.A.S is real man! 😂
@@LilGuyBigVoice hell yeah. Tell me about it. 😂
Interesting Kris, I was thinking of springing for one of these; not sure now. Rethink maybe.
Hey, if you want the real JTM experience, this is probably the best pedal. It’s awesome and super accurate. If you want a polished and more modern take on that amp, maybe grab something else. 👍
02:16 - 02:36: that's a pretty good twangy overdrive sound there. Is that mixed with an overdrive in front there, or just straight into the JTM? Sounds good straight into the amp if so.
Thanks! That’s the strat into the Box of Rock and then into the clean Revv amp. 👍
Marshall mosfet 100 as pedal platform
I bought a Dsl 100. Stack new right before covid19 shut everything down. It's just setting in corner covered up for a couple years now..if you want to run a reverb pedal would you go through the effects loop or though the front? Thanks for the groovy videos. 2thumbs up
Hey James, the Dsl has a nice overdrive tone, I‘d definitely use that too. So it’s best going in the effects loop with the verb, that way you don’t distort the reverb trail. Cheers
A little confusion. do I add the Od pedal toward the input or output of BOR?
Just got my pedal and excited.
I'd definitely add the other od (tube screamer or similar) pedal in front of the BOR. So input. 👍 Let me know how it worked out. Cheers!
Hi, I have asked on another channel but didn't get a response : What is the light brown box thing sitting on top of the amp behind you? I guess I'm getting old or something!!
I guess you mean the OX Box. It’s a cabinet and mic simulation and a load box. You plug your tube amp in it with a speaker cable instead of running a cab. Then you select the cab and mic simulation and go into your mixer/audio interface with TRS cables to get your guitar sound.
@@KrisBarocsi Thanks Kris.
Great as always, bro!
Thanks a lot Jose! 👍
Handy video! Thanks.
Hmm.....I was considering this as a possibility for a Marshall voiced pedal. But I have a 59 Bassman RI so I’m having second thoughts now. I suppose I will look elsewhere. Thanks for the info.
Hey, if you have the chance test the BoR with your Bassman. Those amps are awesome with pedals and if you liked the tones in this video, you might fall in love with the pedal too. I mean I really love it even though it’s not the tightest sounding one for higher gain settings without a screamer or similar in front of it. The character of its overdrive is outstanding. 👍
Yeah, this is actually the first time I’m hearing that the pedal was designed for Marshall Amps. But as I look into it more now I see where that is documented. If I can manage to get my hands on one without having to purchase I will certainly try. But in the meantime I may just see which other plexi style pedals work better with Fender tweed Amps. Thanks again 😊
The overdrive section on mine doesn't work but the boost section does. The pedal doesn't turn on at all. The led stays off. Can anyone help me figure it out?
Not on here. Join a pedal community on Facebook or something - "DIY STOMPBOXES(unofficial)" is good.
Wibblegorm‘s advice is awesome! How old is your Box of Rock? If you have warranty on it, don’t mess with it, otherwise they’ll say it might be your fault that it doesn’t work anymore. And if you have it for many years and don’t dare to modify / fix it, visit an electric repair shop. Guitar pedals are relatively simple, they should be able to figure it out and help you. Cheers
@@KrisBarocsi Hi Kris, thank you for replying. I've had the pedal since 2010 so it's out of warranty. I'll just probably have a tech check it per your advice.
This will be an unpopular opinion, but to my ears, 99% of the pedal's problems went away when you played single coils into it. Admittedly, I'm biased because I've never been much of a fan of Les Paul+Marshall sounds unless they are really low -gain, but I honestly would have been happy with any of the tones you were getting with the Strat and Tele.
Try using a wha with that set up
So we need a "pedal" to make another "pedal" usable, that's like wearing 2 pairs of shoes at once.
You wanted to know my favourite plexi style pedal? The original Carl Martin Plexi Drive is hands down my favourite. All others are a joke once you plug into a Carl Martin!
I have to play one of those original Plexi Drives. I only know the current Carl Martins and I have to say, those are great too. I own and love the Panama for example.
Plexitone right? Because Plexi Drive is a different pedal made by Wampler. I regret selling my original plexitone (black, three footswitch), but might try the newer gold version some time.
@@TheOfficialManuelBurnett yep, the old one with the AC cable and 3 buttons. So far I haven’t come across anything even remotely close and I’ve tried quite a few over the years.
@@davidjoudrey802 Plexitone is the only Plexi style pedal or Marshall in a box pedal I've played, but I always check out the different videos of other pedals. Brett Kingman's demo of the Tech21 hot rod Plexi got me gassing, also Lance Keltner's demo of the Revival Drive.
I’ll watch this later but I always wanted a box of rock
It’s a classic pedal for a good reason. It has character, which is super important to me. Cheers Paul
@@KrisBarocsi with now being deaf in one ear it’s hard to hear without headphones but they colour the sound
Guess I need a single in ear monitor
But this does sound so good Kris
Sequence -
SD1/ Box of Rock/ King of Tone ? Hmmmm🧐🎶
The chinese lucky cat needs some devil sign action \m/
Haha! I’m looking for such a waving cat (with the rockin‘ hand 🤟). Can’t find it nowhere. 😭
Sounds very 80’s to me?
✌️🤪🎸🎶🎵🎶🎵🎶
Yes! And in the best way possible! Haha!
yes, the 80ties modded Plexi sound.
this was crazy usefull
Finallly!
Told ya. Or wait... did I even promise this one? 😅
@@KrisBarocsi No, you did not promise but mentioned once you might make a video about this pedal... It's great!
👍😎
Did you, uh, try turning down the bass level on your amp? 😂
why would I? It’s the perfect amount of bass for all my guitars when played clean and for all other drive pedals that I use as well. 👍 I mean, you‘ve heard the clean tone in the video. It’s perfectly balanced I think.
It’s not so much about the tone stack, which is later in the circuit. Comes more from the gain level of the First 2 preamp tubes (cathode caps) and the coupling off-the-peg power stage in the amp. I also had both, JTM45 amp and BoR. And observed the same. But I wouldn’t say that the JTM doesn’t have a lot of bass. But it will get muddy when really turned up because of that amount of bass. Later Plexis are different.So I really think Kris‘ advice is pretty good!
One of the best pedals on the market. You didn’t do it any favors with your title and dialog.
Not true. From the manual, 4th line: "You may use the Box of Rock™ effectively with many differ-ent amplifiers". And then: "The best way to complete this pedal is to run it through a
tube amplifier on a warm clean setting" . He dont say you need a JTM45 to go with it . That would be pointless . Also, a plexi isn't "muddy" Has more midrange than any design . PICK UPS and SPEAKERS can be"muddy", but the plexi is not . You put that tube screamer in front and now you have a tube screamer sound . "Genius" . So basically you are saying that between 1966 (launch of JTM) and 1980 (Tube screamer), everybody was sounding "muddy" . I'm done here .
Hey, thanks for watching and please don’t feel offended by me using the word „muddy“. There’s nothing wrong with that. Me and most people I know who grew up on 90‘s rock and metal concider anything pre-EVH muddy. Which doesn’t mean that I don’t love that tone, it’s just very different. I mean… I‘m sure you‘ve played cranked JTM‘s. It’s not your „palm-muting dream“, is it? 🙃 I focused on this fact in my video because this is the only criticism I’ve heard about the Box of Rock from people and it’s clearly due to a misunderstanding. I’ve heard from many viewers, that now they finally „dare“ to get the BoR and I’m really happy about that. It’s a unique pedal. Cheers!
And a big one back to you my dude! 💛