REACTING to "This is the New King of Bad Isekai" by Gigguk
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I'm so tired of ppl call Eminence in Shadow "bad", when they truly enjoyed it. Isn't the point of watching anime, to be entertained? We dnt need an anime to be serious, because at the end of the day, it's a cartoon to help us escape this shit world we live in. Eminence in Shadow covers that 100%
Very true ...honestly I don't enjoy it so it's not entertaining for me.....I admit this anime are pretty amazing & good,it just the characters are the problem:
.Cid/Shadow are kind of Psychotic to me but also cool & badass (It just his personality are twisted...too much for me to handle it)
.some of Heroines got wasted & messed up (I was afraid some of 7 shadow garden girls are wasted in the end)
.How they nerfed Aurora disappoint me. ( but I will keep on to it since we know so far the Aurora we saw are not her real self)
I enjoyed it but it's bad ngl, I prefer a proper excecution of the anime, gonna defeat a lot of anime
@@arklainne9365 Agreeable....Plus I prefer anime that will remain famous for lot of years just like how Naruto.....I wanna see how long this anime remain famous & will some viewers remember it after many years passed
I love Eminence in shadow, but I call it bad because its funny. I assume others call it bad for the same reason.
Bad Isekai is just repetitive tiring plot done over and over again attempting to make something out of it. Lacks proper story, plot or ever world building. Eminence is that same like other bad Isekais but instead of putting a cork on all the cliche ideas, the author allows it to flow through the story freely and somehow makes it entertaining. Good Isekai refers to how well the story is written and how well the mangakaka or author can continue on it.
That towel-slap joke went past most people. Credit to Joe for recognizing it, especially when it reprised.
If you would please inform me what this joke meant please!
@@Writer-Two that's what older people often do after taking a bath, at least in japan and some part of asia, my father often did that
@@ky8252 Oh so it's a cultural phenomenon, thanks for the information!
@@10CPS Same here
And the most funny about it is that the princess tries to do it! That's was awesome and funny!!!
I don't think Gigguk putting "bad" in the title necessarily mean it's a bad show, but more like the show fully embraces the "bad" troupes of isekai and crank them to high heaven that it becomes good, Becomes "the king of [bad] isekai".
finally, someone who watched the whole video, not just the title
Finally someone with actual common sense and has Humour.
True, thats what I have been thinking, using "bad" instead would ve been so much better
@@yavararabi2548 lots of idiots on this video couldn't see something o obvious as you. Gigguk obviously enjoyed this show and it's really clear.
That's what Gigguk says he means, but even the "masterpieces" have the same tropes. OP MC? Harem? Food pr0n? Teaching isekai inhabitants better ways of doing stuff from Earth? MT and Re Zero have those too. That's why I still don't agree with labeling as a [bad] isekai, if the other two "masterpieces" (and even Slime) have the same tropes done straight.
Eminence is amazing, hes not the king of "bad" isekai, because its not bad. The show is great, just because its goofy and has a unique premise and iteration on isekai, doesnt make it bad. I love the show, and it has some good depth in the side characters, and its very unique. To make me feel emotional about a BURGER WRAPPER being cutup, you have to have good writing.
King of bad isekai is more of a compliment imo
Yeah, Gigguk also said bad =/= a bad show.
@@Timmycoo Get that BS outta here.
@@danielantony1882 lol I am not understanding his logic. I am on the majority side that Eminence is an awesome show despite it's flaws.
@Retro Gamer I am riiiiight there with you. I do not have the highest standards for anime I love, but, I do feel the desire to defend Eminence from many of the adjectives used to describe/denounce it. "Bad" and "trashy" are descriptors I am vehemently against using for EiS. Unique, absolutely. Overly dramatic, whilst being as edgy as possible, yes. Abusing tropes for the sake of trope-ing the tropes, sure. Bad, hells nah.
It is fun, it is extreme, and it has a genuinely interesting and dark story. I watch/read Eminence for the plot alone. I actually don't like animes with gags and irreverent behavior, generally. EiS just happens to have comedy I can lol with, inbetween the plot development ad character development I love.
I disagree with Gigguk, while agreeing with Garnt, while loving The Isekai Man.
The Eminence in Shadow is not the worst isekai. It's the best isekai/ Dark Fantasy/ comedy of all time. Also one of the best Manga and books I've ever read. The show is 100% fun and they don't know how to handle a serial killer main character. It literally makes fun of the motivation of a Tuxedo Mask or Racer X character.
It still falls short of Instant Death for me personally(japanese), but Trashero is the best imo if we count Korean stuff.
I just want people to understand that by saying it's king of bad anime doesn't mean bad what he means is a guilty pleasure anime type thing. The thing is there this thing called trashy good anime. means show that are self aware and are good. that's why it's the best bad anime!. just like bad good movies! everyone it the comment section is talking as if EiS doesn't fall under that category when it does just like konosuba (which is also another 'trashy' good anime). sorry for the long test
Absolutely not. Something like Overlord is WAY over this show. The writing in this show is just not what it could be.
Eminence isn’t bad, it’s self aware. An anime doesn’t have to have crazy world building or storytelling to be dubbed as good, it just needs to be enjoyable. Taking only first seasons into account eminence is probably top 3 isekai for me
But it does the World building. Just in the book instead of the anime.
@@keithunderwood8803 tbf you’re right the world building and story in general is underrated, I would even say it’s really good
I think the writing in terms of the comedy is pure genius. Not many other shows have as good jokes as this one. +!!! It has the best fight choreography I've ever seen in an anime and that's coming from a HEMA nerd so my standard is quite high lol.
Even the author knows it’s generic, the description of Alexia in the LN was “platinum hair, red eyes like a- you get the point. She’s a gorgeous girl,”
The author gives us what we want in its primal and raw state, and it works.
I just want people to understand that by saying it's king of bad anime doesn't mean bad what he means is a guilty pleasure anime type thing. The thing is there this thing called trashy good anime. means show that are self aware and are good. that's why it's the best bad anime!. just like bad good movies! everyone it the comment section is talking as if EiS doesn't fall under that category when it does just like konosuba (which is also another 'trashy' good anime). sorry for the long test
in lightnovel cid actually jumped in front of the truck himself because he read a isekai manga 🤣
One of the best shows this year no questions
You mean last year?
Technically both can be true 😆
Yeah i don't agree with calling EiS "bad" either. People have become so focused on textbook definition of what "good" is and ignore anything outside of that.
It's sad.
Because you wouldn't call "Tom & Jerry" a garbage show because it had no story or character development.
At the end of the day it's entertainment and if you were entertained then it accomplished it's job.
Exactly, saying 'this is the most entertaining anime ive experienced in this genre in years' and then calling it bad is a moronic take. It's not a traditional and entirely serious story, but why does that make it bad or trashy?
@@Chris-qj5cs exactly
I fuckin loved EiS, it was so much fun to watch I was dying to see each episode every week. I think it's really too bad that a show actively pursuing a trope like "op protag and everyone else is an ant in comparison" is automatically considered a "bad" story. EiS does so much more than that, there's real effort put into the show, and just because they're pursuing a trope like that, and doing a good job and making it a really fun time, should be praised and not labeled as "so bad it's good" or some bullshit like that. It's just good, that's all there is to it, in my opinion.
(side note, i'm surprised Gigguk puts Slime on the same level as Re:Zero and Mushoku tensei, because imo those two are leagues above it in terms of quality and storytelling. That isn't to say I think Slime is bad, it was a fun watch, but it's not on the level of 'masterpiece' I personally label the other two as)
@@MysticLuka Exactly. Also agree that Slime is overrated.
I think Gigguk put those 3 as great Isekai because of the detail and and care they put into the characters and world building of those series. It’s a good show I’ve enjoyed it but for me it’s like right there with Konosuba. So far it’s a great comedy series and I’d like to see where things go with it.
the fact that you only see the fun and funny side is means you don't think while watching... it has a perfect philosophy as well
@@furkankaraslan9040 bruh why you need to think while watching it? The story is not serious or deep at all lol.
@@drazydark1736 bro ik it but least you can make relationships between events and characters even you do not need to, just find some relations that make sense i dont know if makes sense for your point of view but that it actually
@@furkankaraslan9040 even if it's comedy, it's normal to have atleast a story. But the story is not that deep for you think about, you don't need to think too much to understand anything.
@@drazydark1736 dude u just dont get me i dont say there are things meant to be deep or like that i just say you imagibe some relations
I love that he calls this "The One Punch Man of Isekai" because that's what I've been saying for months to try and elevator pitch this show
Slime manga reader and LN reader here, Gigguk put Slime in the same level as re:zero and jobless reincarnation cuz he read all of its LN chapters. And slime anime is just a branch of what the real story. If you read the LN you might understand that Slime is a peak isekai and has a great story and plot twist.
I think that we should compare anime adaptations not manga and LN here. And for me biggest issue with Slime anime is that it tries add too much things in limited episodes and sometimes it feels like is lacking a direction.
@ thats what i felt at first and the reason why i read the LN.
The most I enjoy reading the slime how rimuru subordinate so cool and hot about their own character + their own backstory+ Demon lord.
Tensura lost its charm when the war broke. I liked it when the Jura Tempest govt engaged with politics. Michael's motivation is straightforward plot twist or not
Facts.
I've always hated when people called something I enjoy "trash," especially if it's something this good. Glad I'm not alone :)
Its just contradictory and stupid. He literally said it the isekai he must enjoyed in years then calls it trash. Like ok.
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Eminence in Shadow definitely pushes the limits of what isekai can be.
Entertainment should be judged by how entertaining they are as well. Cid doesn't just have plot armor he is the plot.
1:04 "how old was I at 13?"
That's a good question right there! 🤔
I really am going to start this light novel, there is so many context clues and backstories I want to delve into that the anime doesn’t go over. This anime achieved its ultimate goal: having the viewer go back to the source material in this case. Hats off!
Eminence is not bad! it is fun and it knows what it is. Amazing show!!!
that is what he said in the video did you watch the gigguk video
@KN Aditya yes I did, I just said my opinion that's all.😊
@@RBguitar_ ohk so alright I just want people to understand that by saying it's king of bad anime doesn't mean bad what he means is a guilty pleasure anime type thing. The thing is there this thing called trashy good anime. means show that are self aware and are good. that's why it's the best bad anime!. just like bad good movies! everyone it the comment section is talking as if EiS doesn't fall under that category when it does just like konosuba (which is also another 'trashy' good anime). sorry for the long test
Mushoku tensei is the most realistic, Slime has the best characters, Re-zero is the most interesting, and Eminence has the best protagonist. I've loved Isekai since El-hazard and Magic Knight Rayearth. Its been great seeing Isekai anime evolve.
Ah yes, 🔥The Eminence in Peak👑 🍷
Hang on... "unfortunately" gets hit by a truck? My watching experience and subsequent rewatching gave me the distinct feel that he psyched himself up into jumping infront of that truck in pursuit of magic. Precisely because he had exhausted the limitations of our world. He was shedding his mortal coil to seize greater power in the hereafter.
As someone that owns/reads the light novels for Tensura/The Eminence In Shadow/Mushoku Tensei/ReZero, in terms of FUN to read and having a GOOD time reading
The Eminence in Shadow > Tensura > Mushoku Tensei >>>>>> ReZero (All I feel is depression when I read ReZero)
In terms of STORYTELLING, it's more..
ReZero > Mushoku Tensei > Tensura >>>>>>> The Eminence in Shadow
But you don't read/watch The Eminence in Shadow for the story. You read and watch for the absurdity of it. It's a series that knows exactly what it is and it has fun doing it. You can sit down, turn off your brain and just watch something silly that'll make you laugh. Is it the best Isekai ever? I don't think so, but it's definitely one of IF NOT the most fun Isekai I've (personally) ever read/watched.
I may be in the minority coz i turn off my brain with tensura. The best volumes were Volume 8 to 10, the Festival and Jura Tempest engaging in politics. It's a fun read ngl same fun i had with EiS but not as deep as the one of the best isekai series ever written, Bookworm.
@@cucumbermainline I totally will disagree or it's just totally your personal opinion.
99% tensura fans Started to having tensura in their top favorite series from volume 11 and onwards.even tensura books prize started to increase slightly more then usual from volume 11 considering ppl are liking story now even more
@@mdhamim7552 of course it's my opinion. The Jura Tempest Founding Festival made me love the series since it expanded the believability of the world. Then the next volume engaged in politics, a must-see feature for a series dealing with nation building.
I get the appeal of this series since i also went through a tensura craze phase during the lockdown (read the edited mtls til v17). I got curious of this series because the fans said it has kingdom-building and i eventually did see the kingdom-building. i'm not gonna deny, the war and them getting stupidly stronger as i continued on reading...the fatigue eventually hit me. Currently it's below my reading priority.
@@cucumbermainline ah...sad.
I don't know why you loved these arc even more then over heroes awakening arc (volume 11). tempest festival arc is good . better then previous arc but wasn't hyped and kinda boring 😭. story totally felt like real from volume 11 as it was started to follow shonen themes something that makes shonen serieses the most special
@@mdhamim7552 yeah I would've loved it more in general if the Tempest Federation got more time to develop as a nation and the east empire has engaged more on dirty politics and scheming even if the war was inevitable.
*i'm not asking for 5 years development, just 1-2 volumes of 2-3 years of nation building and expanding their influence in the western continent
The show understood the assignment and played it's cards the best way it freaking could. Theses cards weren't deep, beautiful or amazing, but it doubled down until it became jaw dropping.
It's not the cards you have, but the way you play them that matters.
I completely agree with all ur opinions it was good not because it was bad isekai/cringe it was at some moment but that was comedic
And it has great fight moments
Eminence in shadow withdrawal lol. You’re aren’t alone, I can’t stop wanting to watch more of it. It’s gonna take awhile for me to forget about it 😂
I've rewatched it a few times over "I am Atomic" just straight goosebumps
It's is not just a parody of isekai. It's also a parody of shows like Death Note and Code Geass.
And funny thing is that aspect is even in the name.
I feel like people keep calling it 'bad' or 'trash' is cause it uses a lot of tropes and cliches that are considered hallmarks of trashy isekai, and they're hung up on that instead of understanding that it's not the mere usage of the tropes that make an anime trashy, but HOW those elements are used. And The Eminence in Shadow knows how to properly utilize them to their fullest. To use a somewhat similar analogy to the fast food one that Gigguk used, it's like eating an amazing hamburger from a top restaurant, but considering it junkfood cause you're stuck on the fact that it uses meat and bread just like McDonalds.
"cause it uses a lot of tropes and cliches that are considered hallmarks of trashy isekai"
No it doesn't, this show is not trying to parody anything; The "fast food" analogy does not make sense for this series, it's nothing like gigguk describes
@@ruisir1 are you in denial? OP MC, harem, dense MC, edgy MC and almost everything is centered around the MC. Without proper execution, anime like that is bound to be called bad or trashy. But Eminence in the shadow handle it well and they just embrace the tropes/cliches and went full throttle with it. I see it like a guy who cant sing but he sing so confidently that it sounds good or at least fun to listen to.
@@grainnmertens
"are you in denial? OP MC, harem, dense MC, edgy MC and almost everything is centered around the MC"
that's not how it works
"But Eminence in the shadow handle it well and they just embrace the tropes/cliches and went full throttle with it."
it doesn't, Cid does, the appeal of the series is Cid's unhinged shenanigans juxtaposed with the relatively serious environment, not "embracing the tropes/cliches xD". The anime does Cid's character and the comedy which are the main aspects of the series, no justice at all.
Before the animeonlies came flocking in, no one was calling this series "trashy" nor a parody
@@ruisir1 Ok... I see that you're not a specialist... I see that you don't have more than 5 years of experience of watching anime like others (for me, I watch anime since the end of the 1990's) and I saw a lot of revolutions and anime concepts that appeared in the last 25 years, and I must say, this anime, is one of the rarest to follow word by word the LN story and adapting to anime and not inventing things that didn't happened in the LN!
And try to watch more anime different genres and you will understand what REAL TROPES are!!!
@@Yamato-tp2kf |
"Ok... I see that you're not a specialist... I see that you don't have more than 5 years of experience of watching anime like others (for me, I watch anime since the end of the 1990's) and I saw a lot of revolutions and anime concepts that appeared in the last 25 years" "And try to watch more anime different genres and you will understand what REAL TROPES are!!!"
I don't recall asking, blowhard.
"and not inventing things that didn't happened in the LN!"
like guns, modern trains, widespread modern arhitecture, fucking traffic cones, ommitting the masks, etc...?
The anime does not follow the LN word for word, the events that objectively happened in the LN are all shown in the anime, but that's where the faithfulness to the original source ends, the anime does not capture the narration style of the LN at all, the comedic delivery is off, Cid lost his personality from the LN, the anime turned the series from a unique and quirky series into an almost generic "it's so bad it's good xDD" type of isekai anime
"and not inventing things that didn't
Bruh, Eminence is one of my favourite animes ever.
Cid Kagenou/Shadow is the most badass chuunibyou character I have ever seen but at least he is living his delusions. I enjoyed watching this series.
It's gonna be hard for 2023 to beat 2022. 2023 has a lot of great shows, but it's mostly sequels to great shows. 2022 had a lot of first seasons and originals like Bocchi, chainsaw man, Eminence in Shadow, Kongming, and Lycoris Recoil on top of the really good sequels like Demon Slayer, AOT, and Made in Abyss
As LN enjoyer of Overlord and Eminence is Shadow I can say with confidence that here and there in the novels there are moments quite similar to one another. Especially "SASUGA, AINZ-SAMA" vibes.
The funny thing with cid yoinking the piano is the fact that if im not mistaken it belongs to epsilon because she uses it to bring money to shadow garden itself
as a researcher, Times New Roman is the to go cool font.
Honestly I enjoyed eminence out of all the anime’s I have watched in a long timeee. Honestly I would say it is my second top list of anime’s of all time because it is very different compared to any other shows out there
woah i'm glad you found your gem, not sure if it would have a place in my top 200 with all the animes i have watched in +30 years......God i am getting old
@@dohalimilqarasdeldemenanci8483 I also have a ton of anime’s that I watch but I guess for me I like something a little more refreshing but somewhat gives me vibes to my favorite anime
he said, "this man said that in TIMES NEW ROMAN" and I died....lol. At least he didn't say it in Comic Sans
This makes me want to rewatch this anime already. I love it
I consider slime up there cause it addresses more of the isekai trope with it being a regular occurrence in the world, and how he starts off strong but there are many strong people in play. How politics start affecting his life. How is absence can affect the people his looks after. How in the world words can cause as much damage as destruction. It is very goofy, but it expands the world and shows growth for everyone and how growth changes things.
Fax It's quite funny but also Is Very Interesting
2022 was such a good year for anime, just banger after banger.
Don't you disrespect my SLIME!
Lol.
Actually Slime is a very good world building series. Contains a bit of Trash, like all series on the other hand. If we take for example only the first season, The Eminence is probably a better product (personal opinion), but already speaking of the second season, Slime deserves to be among the best Isekai without any doubt.
While the world building is pretty good in slime the main plot is pretty generic and kind of goes nowhere, and there are a lot of characters which are simply flat. It´s good but nowhere near ReZero or Mushoku, which both have a different interesting core. Mushoku with an even better world building and high realism (as far as fantasy goes) and ReZero with the suffering and hero subversion.
Eminence does something really interesting imo though, which is that the main character isn´t actually the main character. The MC usually has an arc for character progression, getting stronger etc., Eminence kind of does not do that. While he might kick-start events the mc of the current arc is pretty much always someone else. There is character developement for Iris, Alexia, Sherley and Rose. The Shadow Garden troop are your typical escalating fight against a powerful organisation. Each of these parts can actually take the spotlight for a story and we are stuck with Cid who is actually a npc and provides a really unique few into the matter and actually only does cool stuff without really interesting motivation.
Don´t know how the author got the idea for that and how it is so entertaining but it certainly is special.
@@scipiovp921 Agree Slime is massively overrated. Its basically just a generic isekai thats higher quality than most generic isekai.
Slime is a generic isekai, that got lucky to have a goof adaptation, but neither the world building nor the story really ever seemed really interesting. Just typical isekai stuff
@ScipioVP nah I disagree Slime is one of the most influential isekias ever
It literally gave birth to the long titles and made the most useless character in fantasy the slime the most iconic
Also it's the first isekia to tackle the concept of growing your own kingdom flawlessly
stop disrespecting Slime is a great anime
@Chris what makes you think it's generic 🤔
Tell me what isekia tackled the same concept as slime before it ?
What people do not understand is that when Gigguk refers to EiS as the king of trashy isekai what he meant is that it's so bad it's good. It's every cringe edgy isekai anime combined and amped up to 11. As Gigguk said the top 3 isekais are the gourmet 3 michelin star food while EiS is the mcdonalds food everyone likes and eats. And we all know how we love our unhealthy and cholesterol filled fried chicken and big macs? that's how we love EiS.
It’s not “bad that’s it’s good”, hell no it’s that bad it circles to being good.
It’s just good in its own. Anybody saying it’s “trash” or “bad” but actually likes it is just covering their ass for actually liking an Isekai.
Slime is one of the best isekai's to date, it may not be for everybody because its not full of action in every episode but the world building specifically is second to none. You saw Rimura take a village from nothing, just a few huts made of straw and wood and turn that area into a whole vast city, that's ever expanding and you saw how he did it, each step of the way, and it discusses economic factors essential to the successful operation of a city, such as trade, housing, and even regular meetings of the officials of tempest. Slime may not be the most action packed isekai but in terms of world building, its arguably the best isekai to date.
I hate the way you said it's not good because not full action. It just like you said if there's no action in anime Isekai that anime is not good. I hate that, Isekai is not Shounen anime like Demon Slayer, JJK that always show off action. For example Mushoku tensei it was great even not alot of action because they're really focused on the story and the action it's not the main genre.
@@InstanRamen I didn't say that, I said its not good to some people because every episode isn't action filled but I love it, because I appreciate the world building.
Personally I share the same sentiment about Eminence. I'd put it in the Top 5 for Isekai personally, and I'm anime only.
The Eminence in Shadow is the secret child of Konosuba and Overlord and you can't change my mind.
It really is
The Eminence in Shadow is best isekai-comedy anime!
Cid's demeanor like a gamer playing a story video game is hilarious.
Cid is the combo of Batman and Joker - the Batman badassery combined with the chaos of the Joker.
"How old was I at 13?"
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Yeah, sometimes I speak words that aren't what I'm thinking. Was trying to figure out what year I was 13 and my thoughts came out jumbled 😂😂
TEIS to the isekai genre is what Kill La Kill was to shonen.
just finished watching s1 of Eminence of Shadow and I totally enjoyed it! Can't wait for s2!! ^_^
atomic moment ,, was top cool moments in anime fo suree
I kinda want to see Cid actually get emotional about something in season 2. Since his sister got kidnapped once and he didn't even flinch, maybe if Alpha happens to be in grave danger, then he becomes serious and we get to see a different side of his. I don't believe that's gonna happen tho. Not yet, anyway
Yeah, I don't see it happening. Cid is a sociopath. Everything is for his role play. He'd stab Alpha in the back in a heartbeat if he thought it'd enhance his role.
Well it will be surprising to see such event since Cid treats everything in this life like a theatre where he operates the story, main role and side role at the same time. Anyone being kidnapped is just yet another chance to shine on the stage for him for his own satisfaction. I rather curious how would he react if one of seven main shadow girls or sister actually died. Will he actually express genuine emotion instead of acting?
@@user-kx6my5bl5c why would he change? Reality is nothing more than a video game to him
Gigguk has watched basically every isekai that exists (including all the bad ones), so he's probably coming at this from a slightly different angle than most people who have only seen a handful of isekai.
Not really i think it's becus he's been into different type of genres that made him own fetishist ,it happened to me I'm used on other genre like romance now I'm cringing on it
Watching eminence in shadow, the first anime that made me read the whole light novel for it. I'd say this is the peak I was searching for, best isekai I have ever seen.
When you think about it, Cid can't just discard his persona of being Cid. If he did, people might get suspicious. Being the ultimate mob character distracts from the idea that he is Shadow to the point that someone could negate his magic for like thirty seconds, because it was just disrupted like energy can do, and everyone who sees his slime cloak dissolve will refuse to believe the truth of their own eyes. Even if it does happen and he is discovered, it will involve someone asking why. And, he can smile confidently and say, "Why not? Even now, you refuse to believe the truth of your own eyes. It is precisely how I wished it to be." Revealing Batman would make sense because Bruce Wayne has the money and company to make the gadgets. Revealing Superman kind of makes sense because he's just Clark Kent without glasses. Cid? No. He is the exact opposite of Shadow. Nobody would believe he and Shadow are the same person. It's perfect. Sadly, I think it's too deep for some people.
Basically comic book logic
@@Dave102693: No, real logic. Cid let himself be tortured for 5 days. Iris would undoubtedly ask why if she found out. Rose would ask, too, since she helped restrain Cid's sister. Rose would also ask why he let himself be 'killed' saving her when he could have just as easily trounced the intruders.
Then, there's Alexia. Ho-Lee-Schitt! Imagine her reconciling the loser who shook while proposing to her with the bad*ss that nuked her captor right in front of her...along with a large chunk of the city. Claire MIGHT believe, but she'd have to come to grips with how he just let her win all their life. Oh, dear. Imagine how Po and Skel would respond. Nobody would believe.
There is an actual "Isekai One Punch Man" it's called Isekai Instant Death...The mc of that one is an Eldritch God using the guise of a highschool kid, He is so stupidly powerful that you can't even compare him to ANY other character in anime...He is the highest concept of "The End of ALL things", the best part of that series is the complete switch from a casual isekai story(MC's POV) to Insane Mindbending HORROR(When they switch to other characters POV).
When I was 13, the internet was still "new"... We used VHS ...
I too do not see the Overlord comparison. I started watching Shadow because that was how the internet kept trying to sell it but after episode three, I was like “this is nothing like Overlord. Cid is just a straight up psycho. Aniz isn’t anything like this dude.”
You should see the aninews video about eminence in shadow, there he tells a lot on how things work on the mind of cid without spoilers
the ln of slime do get very time travelly and complicated. its really good.
Yeah, when I say anything about these series it is from the perspective of an anime only. If I had read all of Re:Zero, Mushoku Tensei, and Slime, maybe I would feel differently, but I can't say for sure anything since I never read them.
Also If Isekai Really had a Big Three then it would be
Mushoku Tensei
Re:Zero
The Beginning after the end
While Konusuba and Eminecne in Shadow are the Comedy Gold of Isekai
the beginning after the end isnt an anime 💀💀💀
@@ryobluu Doesn't matter lmao I said If Isekai Had a Big Three not if the Anime Isekai had a Big Three
But tbate is so generic tho
@@jashandeepsingh2239 okay so whats so different about tbate than any other isekais… arthur gets isekaied and gain skills like every other isekai while ofcourse can’t forget about that one pet every mc must have, oh and what do you know? the pet is a legendary pet that’s always so special among another other pets 😭😭 and the fact people clowning on slime for being generic, never have i ONCE seen an isekai that the mc BUILDS his own empire from the scratch.. IF slime was a generic isekai, Hinata wouldve been killed encountering rimuru, milim wouldve gotten shitted on by rimuru in season 1.. 💀While tbate on the other hand just follows the standard plots EVERY manhwa has laid out. the mc gets a crazy skill that no one normal has, gets arrested for some shit he didnt do, return back even more op cos they trained in a confined area that distorts space and time 😭 AND EVEN MORE, I can list shits thats different from slime to 100+ different isekais. Goblins are ordinary people, not cheap monsters or filler. There are lots of otherworlders and not all are friendly. Rimuru would rather not have a dedicated harem. Anime focuses on building his own city and not blinding going out for adventure every episode. Rimuru joins the demon lords instead of the “You got reincarnated to kill the demon lord!!” And instead of every character holding grudges, most of them forgives, one example is when Benimaru's team and later, Hiiro forgave the orcs for what they did.
It's definitely not bad trashy isekai when it's this much entertaining man
I would actually love if you could do stream reading LN of eminence in shadow, like you did with spider isekai.
Eminence anime has subpar animation(sakuga) cuz it has a small studio working on it but beside that everything about it has is what LN fans want to have for their favorite series.
Like the director is an absolute monster for carrying this show and he is fan of the source material (not the LN but actual Web Novel) and this love can be seen when he requested for inclusion of WN exclusive character in the anime. And sword fight choreography is so good and realistic.
Production decision was made when only 3 vols were released in jp, and what's crazy is much of the Shadow garden growth story is exclusive to the game only (even though game just okay at best) I hope they release vols of Seven Chronicles side story in LN format.
I agree with you about the story part, even though it's decent, there is cohesive story being told behind whole Cid bullshit act and the character them selves are entertaining not just Cid.
Overall I really love this series and actually only series whose all media i have consumed (anime, manga, LN, WN, game story) and I still want more of it
Disagree with your statement that the animation being subpar. It's not the best but its actually better than A LOT of anime. But I do agree with you about the director carrying this show, the dude is brilliant.
@@Chris-qj5cs Ok subpar maybe bit harsh but i compared it to Mushoku & Tensura. And part of me is bit sad and salty that Cid vs Aurora fight was really crazy as described in LN but anime didn't give me that same impact that's why. But dont get me wrong, more than sakuga i want good director that loves the source material and goes above and beyond to deliver it in anime format and I m content with that
Love your content bro ❤ keep it up
Appreciate it!
As much as I love the anime version, I can't believe how impactful the change of medium was, making it so serious. In LN every character is so flashed out, especially Cid and his elaborate shenaningans. We get the insight why and how he does what he does, which is hillarious. In the show he just does it and the viewer is mostly confused if Cid is a moron or a genius.
This was my problem with the show, but whenever I bring it up, people get mad at me. Like, nothing was explained properly, lol. At one point, I think at the end of Episode 2, the girls say they're going to leave, and he monologues about how people naturally want to go off on their own and forget about childish dreams. Then in Episode 3, he sees them again, but is absolutely not surprised and acts like they've kept in touch. I mean, it was obvious they were going off to chase down the demon cult, but the transition and execution was really confusing; I thought I missed an episode or something, because it made no sense.
Then there's the slime suit, which is only explained in a single sentence, then utterly ignored forever, despite it being his main form of combat. The fact that he's a magical god with no training irked me too. The show isn't bad, but even for an Isekai Power Fantasy, it takes too many gaps in logic. The show just assumes you know enough Anime tropes to fill in the gaps yourself. If I hadn't been watching Anime for decades, I would be probably be confused about how the story unfolded, because it's just not coherent.
@@Augoeides32 Remember the scene with Alexia "killing" Cid? It was godawful in the anime. Everyone who doesn't know the source material was so confused about what happened. There was so much shit like this in every episode.
We all know how anime loves internal monolouges. But here, where it would be 100% helpful, they said fuck it and rolled without it.
@@nerio1227 Really? I dont know the source material and knew exactly what happened when Alexia slashed Cid. Its pretty obvious. He turned her down and she got a crazy look on her face. It's not that hard to put 2 and 2 together.
@@Chris-qj5cs You would be surprised. Had friends who were confused. Watched some reactions and it was the same. "Who's blood is that?".
@@Augoeides32 The anime is a partial parody and subverts many of the troupes from other anime. So obviously having knowledge of these troupes improves the experience, this does not make it incoherent however. Personally I did not find the story confusing at all.
I'm enjoying the comments thinking that he's saying it's bad when he's basically saying it's so bad it's good.
From zero to 100, I agree with you, man.
garnt probably read light novel that's why he put slime in that level (which i totally agree)
Id say Eminence in Shadow is a half parody. Because Cid/Shadow himself is the parody element, but everything else is completely 120% serious. Essentially, anytime the story is focusing on Cid and his thoughts personally is when the show is a parody, and anytime its focusing on anybody or anything else is when its not lol
All of it is a massive joke
In my opinion is the light novel of slime with no doubt one of the best isekai. The worldbuilding is at the level of one piece. it has also interesting characters, of course there not amazinly written but a LN like slime dosen't need something like that. It is just extremely fun and the people who say rimuru is op heven't read the LN. There he isn't even in the top 5 of the verse.
Everyone got their opinion, but hell no the world building isnt even close to One Piece. I agree its a fun story, but people overpraise it to much.
@@kunstlerischesetwas1284 yes but i also dont get why all people say the world building of one piece is so god like. Dont get me wrong it has one of the best World buildings is in animanga and LN history bit for me it is in a level with slime and magi
@@kunstlerischesetwas1284 it's not over prising.have you read the slime novel ,do you know how much effort author gave in the ln to build the world?
Everyone misses the sword scene where my man literally shoves the sword into the ground futher instead of pulling it out like come on he broke the ground 😅
If you finish season 2 of slime , I assure you will love it just as much as the fans 😊( btw my top 5 isekai are Slime , Eminence, No game no life , Mushoku , ReZero and Dating sim ( this last one was just like Eminence , it was hilarious )😂
i actually love people reacting to other videos
20:00 Back in 2010, there was widely considered to be a "big 5" of the Isekai genre. They were Overlord, Mushuko Tensei, Re:Zero, Rising of the Shield Hero, and Kono Suba.
I think if that list were to be updated for the modern day, it would turn into a "big 4" keeping Overlord and Mushoku Tensei, and adding the newcomers Eminence in Shadow and Ascendance of a Bookworm.
Yes, I'm saying Re:Zero, Shield Hero, and Kono Suba would all be dropped from the list. Face it, Kono Suba really isn't looked on as favorably today as it was back then. The other three had really excellent first seasons, but Re:Zero and Shield Hero kinda got lost in their 2nd seasons.
Those three really got killed by their anime adaptations. MT and Overlord are the only ones from among those three that are still universally praised (for the story quality, I know MT gets a lot of hate for the MC, but that's kinda by design), and in the case of Overlord that's in spite of the really bad CGI at the end of season 2. Overlord's story quality just happened to be good enough to survive the bad CG.
I personally like S2 of Re:Zero over S1 so...
Yo, we need the Kage Jitsu reactions.
Coming soon...
You can still milk it a bit more if you react to the Kage-jitsu shorts on Kadokawa channel. They are subbed to english too.
Not from the first set of seasons but when it gets into its new arcs and when they start getting the amazing content that hasn't been adapted
"today im milking"
"is slime really that much?"
NO
My analogy on this situation of eminence being a great in its own way
Big Isekai like mushoku are like movie entertainment
Eminence was like a UA-cam content entertainment
They are Two different types of entertainment and eminence killed it
Eminence is definitely a great it may not be movie great but it’s definitely great in its own different space like keeping you entertained like UA-cam content
It’s like comparing a UA-cam celebrity to a movie celebrity both are great but great in a different space that they work in
If you're reacting to anime content like this then you should also check out "Why Cid Kageno Is THE MOST OP Isekai Protagonist | EMINENCE IN SHADOW - Cid's Power EXPLAINED" by AniNews
Naw AniNews straight up spoils stuff.
more reactions from gigguk please
In time for sure. I normally just watch his videos and not react but I might start just reacting to them
Eminence in shadow is a modern classic for those who like and watch Isekai
I think eminince in shadow can compete with Slime but i still think it has no chance against light novel slime
There's definitely a lot more plot to cover. Especially with the events of next season and with Oriana Kingdom's problems which will be in vol 4
You can milk novels too, y’know. They are juicy 😊
It's like crack, I don't blame ya. Half the EiS fanbase are digging for new reactions to the show regularly 💀.
Yaboyroshi is about to put it on the poll again soon.
And there's like 2-3 solid reactors who are like at the 15-17 episode range now.
Here's hoping that new people get into the series and find my reactions too 🤞😬🤞
@@FreshestAnime Well if the bigger channels take notice then hopefully so!
Your channel, rocklee and like 2 others tend to pop up most just off regular searches for EiS so new fans hopefully would be directed your way.
I feel like everyone forgot that Cid has the blood of the hero with how op he was from his past life. Him using Aurora's technique with the water in the anime was a cool touch on him being able to pick up and use the techniques of others.
A personal head canon of mine is that whatever god/goddess of that world implanted the knowledge of diablos, the curse and the cult in his subconscious. It works in their favor since he was already dead set on becoming op and fighting bad guys on the way. That way in the eyes of the viewers it feels like plot convenience. It helps that Cid was always aware of fantasy tropes so he has the greatest advantage with all that's left is styling on the haters.
now that you mention it yeah slime is quite overhyped but has a loyal fandom while being casual in a way that its an easy recommend. I think everyone who watches slime thinks everyone else is watching slime too
slime is definitely one of the kings of isekai without a doubt.
HARD disagree ,i dropped it due to mid-level shounen power scaling constantly ( ho no he is stronger than me ,time to power level )^9000
@@nhpkm1 a king doesnt have to be a deserved king. but slime is probably an isekai king nontheless
I reads slime for longest of time and i can confidently say that it not top not even close. Pretty good but not the best.
@@nhpkm1 why are u watching it for the power scaling in the first place?? Opm has a stupid power scaling and the Mc is the most op character ever,but does that make it bad?? No it doesn't. Because the story isn't about the power scaling.
Slime is way more into the political side of the world and how Rimuru is trying to build his country, and what things come in his way. Those things doesn't need to be strength based.
@@user-sd7df5rq7q Sure but the author goes out of his way to give Rimuru the most OP powers to make sure he doesn't struggle. Overlord is similar but they really focus on the political aspect and the lives of the natives instead of just powering up the main cast everytime they face a new opponent. Ainz's power level is constant throughout the story because that isn't the focus.
Slime's monsters are just humans with additional body parts and are bland with no culture of their own. They don't have difficulties living together and them being monsters are just for appearances sake for the most part. Rimuru's neighbors make alliances with him in the first season when he only has a goblin village with no power to defend it.
Hot take: MOST Isekai are trash, and Eminence in Shadow is NOT one of them.
I wasn't bored for a single second, and the story followed a completely different path as that of most isekai. Everything felt unique and original, even when it was making fun of common tropes. Cid/Shadow is just an amazing character, and you can't help but love him as a protagonist.
People need to admit that Eminence in Shadow isn't "good because it's bad" but because it's genuinely good.
It was a blast from beginning to end. I was engaged all the way through, not only with Cid but with all the other characters around him, their character development, their ambitions, and I'm excited to see where they go from here...
I also found it really cool how we see the world change and develop around them, through Gamma's Mitsugoshi Company, using Cid's knowledge of his past life to develop this world. In the beginning of the show, it looks like early 1800s since there were trains already. But by the end of the season, it starts to resemble early 1900s, in technology, food, and even in the way they dress. Seeing these subtle changes in the world around them as the story unfolds, and how the characters interact with it was really cool to see, and something I've never seen before.
Cid: I play a magic warrior equipped only with the loincloth of nat20
DM: I'll allow it
he never loses bro
I agree with you wholeheartedly. To me eminence in shadow was more enjoyable than slime, in a purely having fun kind of way, while slime definatly has better story/characters there are quite a lot of episodes that are very mediocre. Compare that to Eminence where i felt that there wasn't any episode except for the first one that didn't have me enjoying it the whole 20 minutes.
first season of slime was generic trash "oh i got new abilities every second and i need 1 minute explanation of what these abilities do" with a simcity simulator.
It was ok, but it wasnt good. People say in next seasons it gets better, but i dont have patience to sit through all this
@@romanpyatibratov4361 that's your opinion and thank God it's the minority lol
@@romanpyatibratov4361 This is why I compare Slime to BOFURI, dude is just randomly getting new abilities and powers every 2 seconds. Overall its pretty generic, I dont find the story very engaging either.
Slime overrated
@@user-02Aiku fr
yes slime is that good.
5:50 yes, yes it is
Slime is in the top more because of the light novel and what people know is going to come and it's absolutely gonna be hype. Plus it has now become the best selling light novel. And overlord over slime is just a stupid idea
I agree that this should be one of the best anime of 2022/2023 cuz it turns on our expectations of classic anime tropes without trying to be gigabrain
I think people taking thing too literally, just because Gigguk said trashy isekai doesn't mean he really think it's trash.
Its crazy how many words there are in the English language, maybe he should I dont know actually use them to make his intentions clearer rather than saying dumb stuff.
@@Chris-qj5cs not his fault nor his problem for people can't see a tone and context in a word.
@@drazydark1736 Yes it is his fault because more words exist in the English language than 'trash' or 'bad'. So maybe use them to express your true intention?
@@Chris-qj5cs no need
For me eminence in shadow in insanely good isekai what? Because 2020 I was thinking about could there be an anime that the male protagonist is like batman who kinda act cool pretending to be a mob character but is super OP I can't believe it my dream of anime became true thank you the eminence in shadow
EiS is fun because the chuuni edgelord character is always played for jokes in recent anime. This is the first time I've seen them take a character who unapologetically embodies The Cringe down to their soul, and then give them the power, charisma, and awareness to back it all up. And most importantly, they actually make him look cool, despite showing us The Cringe behind the scenes.
And what makes it all better is that Cid believes the Cult of Diablos is fake, and that the Seven Shadows are just humouring his game. Cid himself doesn't take his own Shadow persona seriously - it's intentionally exaggerated and rehearsed, not because it's like a performance, but because it IS a performance, at least in his own mind. It just so happens that the script that he wrote is somehow miraculously completely factual, instead of pure fiction like he thinks it is.