Common Ducati Panigale Problems, Real Or Made Up?

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  • @cvi.lanell_2438
    @cvi.lanell_2438 5 років тому +15

    I'm thinking about picking up a bike for myself in the next couple months. Your videos have been extremely helpful in helping me decide whether or not a 959 is for me.

    • @Paramoto959
      @Paramoto959  5 років тому

      Glad to help! They’re fantastic bikes! 😎😎

  • @mitchypoo117
    @mitchypoo117 3 роки тому +4

    I agree all the complaints youtubers have with these bikes are totally baseless. Throttle play doesn’t matter, heat is no worse than any other bike I’ve ridden, reliability is really good. I’v owned an 899, 1199 and currently a 959 corse. If you’re thinking about getting one just do it you won’t be disappointed.

  • @julianvanderkraats408
    @julianvanderkraats408 5 років тому +14

    Eliminating the throttle play really is great tho. Best mod I did right after the Akra's.

    • @Paramoto959
      @Paramoto959  5 років тому

      I’d love an exhaust I just can’t justify 3+ grand for one. I could almost get another bike for that price 😂😂

    • @julianvanderkraats408
      @julianvanderkraats408 5 років тому +1

      @@Paramoto959 I can totally sympathize, it's insanely expensive. I felt weird opting for it, but as I ordered it with the bike, I just added it to the already really expensive Ducati, and I just couldn't live with the side cans. As for the throttle kit, please give it a chance, it really is great for the throttle response. Also great for in city driving, when pulling away from a traffic light for example.

    • @Paramoto959
      @Paramoto959  5 років тому

      I would’ve loved to have the option of add ons when I bought my bike, it was never brought up 🤔🤔

  • @jordanammanshmesani
    @jordanammanshmesani 5 років тому +5

    I got the throtle spacers which help a lot during cornering , smooth transition.
    The heat is a big issue if it's over 90 f weather. And that's why I got heat shield installed.. plus rapid bike evo is a must to get Maximum smooth power, I removed the gas fuel canister for smooth startup. My next step is to change the levers.

    • @Paramoto959
      @Paramoto959  5 років тому

      Nice man! Sounds like some good mods! 😎😎

  • @irideaduck939
    @irideaduck939 6 років тому +6

    Once you've added the throttle spacers you can never go back! I added the throttle spacers on my 899, so much better for mid turn throttle maintenance. Perhaps not an issue on the street, but on the track it helps smooth out rider inputs.

    • @Paramoto959
      @Paramoto959  6 років тому

      Sounds good, I haven’t really had any issues with my throttle being stock. That being said I haven’t made it too the track yet.

  • @tw1nair
    @tw1nair 5 років тому +3

    Hey bud, just stumbled upon you channel and subbed!
    I ride a Panigale 1299S - pretty much the same as yours but larger displacement, and the S model gives me all the electronic enhancements like wheelie control, ABS and traction control, plus quick shifter etc.
    Having said that, I agree with you 100% on all points.
    I am in Sydney, Australia...gets pretty damn hot here. Sure, the Duke warms up...but it's not a problem. I've never had the engine cutout due to overheating.
    Throttle play, again, not an issue.
    Reliability on modern Ducatis is excellent. Never had a problem with mine at all.
    Thing is this, the Panigale and a lot of Ducati bikes in general are essentially race bikes with indicators and a license plate. You get what you pay for, and then some.
    You can't say I want a fucking race bike for the road, and then complain about it getting warm, or it's uncomfortable to ride.
    It's a fucking race bike!
    Be grateful you have one and that you're allowed to ride it on a public road!
    My 1299S power to weight ratio is in favour of power. That's insane! I have a a lot of car nut friends who WISH their car had more power than weight.
    Also, on a side not, I love your blogging style - truth, no polish, no censorship. I love your colourful language lol because that's how we speak down under man. No filter and no fucks given.
    Check out my channel and there's a video of my 1299S. I'm not a blogger...yet, I am considering starting to do so but currently researching on the hardware I need.
    Anyway, keep in touch brother. We share the same passion, albeit from different corners of the globe. How cool :)

    • @Paramoto959
      @Paramoto959  5 років тому

      Its times like this where I get really annoyed that I have to go to three separate places to see all my comments! I defiantly want to check out your channel!!! 😎

    • @mentoredbylife9730
      @mentoredbylife9730 4 роки тому

      Wonderful input thanks man

  • @charlieryan1736
    @charlieryan1736 6 років тому +3

    I think most of the complaints come from the Ducati haters. My 848 has under tail exhaust & I recently got some race baffles from A&R Racing and with the cats removed the heat is a non issue now. Thanks for another excellent video

    • @Paramoto959
      @Paramoto959  6 років тому +2

      I was at the dealership one day and I was told by my salesman that their Ducati rep from Italy told someone once. Yeah it gets hot, ride faster or wear leather pants. 😎😎 most Italian thing I’ve ever heard.

  • @GoRossiGo
    @GoRossiGo 5 років тому +5

    I've owned several bikes and this one is hot as hell and the throttle has play. Trust me the spacers make a big difference.

    • @Paramoto959
      @Paramoto959  5 років тому

      Defiantly the hottest running bike I've ever owned I'll give you that. But honestly it doesn't bother me. Like a Ducati rep said "Yeah it gets hot, ride faster or get leather pants". Still the most Italian thing I've ever heard. 😂😂😂

  • @doukanylmaz5789
    @doukanylmaz5789 5 років тому +4

    i had a 899 and sold it. bacause i was moving to another country. anyway, that heat issue wasn't a deal breaker but in city traffic it bothered me. i am planing to buy another panigale but this time i will work on heat shield :)) . fantastic bike overall. ride safe guys.

    • @Paramoto959
      @Paramoto959  5 років тому

      When I test rode a 899 a few years ago the heat in traffic was defiantly noticeable. When I jumped on my 959 it seemed like Ducati addressed it. 😎

    • @doukanylmaz5789
      @doukanylmaz5789 5 років тому +1

      @@Paramoto959 oh, great news. if i can stretch my limits i will consider 959.

    • @Paramoto959
      @Paramoto959  5 років тому +1

      No regrets! 😎😎

  • @TubeSocksMalone
    @TubeSocksMalone 6 років тому +4

    I feel you about riding what you want to ride. I love Italian performance

    • @Paramoto959
      @Paramoto959  6 років тому

      They’re just totally different then anything else. All about style and character.

  • @JeanS1989
    @JeanS1989 5 років тому +2

    I’ve been looking in what my next bike is going to be and I’ve been reading and doing all kinds of research on the 959. Your content and this video is truly helpful when it comes to making the decision whether or not I go for the Panigale. Keep up the good work!

    • @Paramoto959
      @Paramoto959  5 років тому +1

      Thanks man! I'm going to put this comment in a video I plan on making to send to Ducati to try and get some kind of Dealer support. If that's cool with you! Thanks again 👍

    • @JeanS1989
      @JeanS1989 5 років тому

      For sure!

    • @mentoredbylife9730
      @mentoredbylife9730 4 роки тому

      Same here !

  • @ooopepper
    @ooopepper 5 років тому +3

    I love ducatis. I had a 1098 but sold it and I'm looking at the 959 now. Just to note. All bikes get hot. It's just a matter of how the thermals are and how each company chooses to dissipate the heat. With that said, I live in Houston Texas where the heat is REAL. Sitting in traffic SUCKS my friend has an 899 and I've ridden it in traffic and it's not great. And I ain't no bitch either. I'll tough it out but the heat definitely exists. My 1098 wasn't as bad but the headers had no heat shield so over time I could feel the heat emanating from there. But yes. Heat should not be a determining factor for these bikes

    • @Paramoto959
      @Paramoto959  5 років тому +1

      The 899 I feel was hotter then the 959.
      I’ve sat in Southern summer 90+ degree 90% humidity stopped in traffic on black top and it wasn’t that bad.
      And that almost as bad as it can get. 😂😂

  • @JS-fb6ww
    @JS-fb6ww 2 роки тому +2

    You seem to be very knowledgeable about these Ducatis and have very good insights on them. I know you probably be more leaning toward the V2 but I'm curious what your opinions are on the Super Sport 950s.

    • @Paramoto959
      @Paramoto959  2 роки тому

      Essentially the same bike the Super Sport is just less sporty and more comfortable. Kinda like if you wanted a monster but also still be a sport bike.

  • @MultiFireblade1000
    @MultiFireblade1000 4 роки тому +2

    I know for a fact the the 1199-1299 upwards get Superhot specially in traffic. The 1199 absolutely fried my nuts in less than 5 minutes and broke my heart because I so wanted one. I rode the 899 in Traffic in Vienna and it was just fine. Ive never riden the 954 in traffic so ill take you word for it. I owned a beautiful 848 for 3 years and it was great in all conditions, Summer, Winter, wet, but it blew 2 voltage regulators, and a radiator in extreme summer heat conditions. I traded it for the 1198s and that was pretty hot and too snatchy so I sold it for a S1000rr which is a great all rounder, but it dosen't have the Pimp Factor of a Ducati. Try an 1199 in traffic and youll see what the fuss is about. :) Great blog . Please also do a full review on a 996, 998. Thanks!

    • @Paramoto959
      @Paramoto959  4 роки тому

      I rode a V4 a few months back and made a video about it. It got warm but I didn't think it was a deal breaker TBH. To be totally forthright though I was a Firefighter so my heat tolerance maybe a little higher then some. 😎😎😎

  • @4g1vn
    @4g1vn 2 роки тому +1

    As a happy 959 owner, 1) throttle spaces are nice, but not necessary 2) it can get hot, but that’s the nature of a v-twin, you want to feel HOT, ride an RC51 😉

  • @JS-fb6ww
    @JS-fb6ww 2 роки тому +1

    What is that small bar just in front of the handlebars at the top of the fork between the left and right handlebars? I don't see that little bar on the handlebars of the Ducati Supersport.

    • @Paramoto959
      @Paramoto959  2 роки тому

      It’s a steering damper. It keeps the bars stable under hard riding to avoid a tank slapper.

    • @JS-fb6ww
      @JS-fb6ww 2 роки тому

      Thanks. I've been really curious about that.

    • @Paramoto959
      @Paramoto959  8 місяців тому

      No problem 👍

  • @mentoredbylife9730
    @mentoredbylife9730 4 роки тому

    What an incredible and straight to the point video I really liked how you were talking about the main points about these bikes and how ppl are bitching about them ( with many of them haven’t owned one and maybe they just test drive them or heard from someone !) I’ve done a lot of research on the bike and for sure I’m getting one . Thanks for the input man and keep uploading bro !

    • @Paramoto959
      @Paramoto959  4 роки тому +1

      Most of the complaints on the bike are completely ridiculous.Its an Italian Super Bike of course its not going to be like riding a Gold Wing or something lol

    • @mentoredbylife9730
      @mentoredbylife9730 4 роки тому

      @@Paramoto959 lol totally true

  • @JS-fb6ww
    @JS-fb6ww 2 роки тому +1

    Do you find the fact that this bike doesn't have a gas gauge an inconvenience? The super sport has it so I can't figure out why the V2 doesn't have that little bit of Technology integrated into the infotainment screen.

    • @Paramoto959
      @Paramoto959  2 роки тому

      No not really. Most super bikes don’t have one. Although that seems to be changing. The gas light turns on with plenty of warning before you need to find a gas station.

  • @neilallen460
    @neilallen460 5 років тому +2

    Picking up one of these in a couple of weeks. May I ask you what differences you would say the 959 has over the 1199? And what made you choose the 959? Mine are that it’s a twin. I like the sound, feel and the engine breaking. It’s a very tidy bike and not cumbersome. Also price and that the 1199 is brutally fast; too much for the roads of Thailand. Anyway, great videos, very informative and super helpful. Thank you 🙏

    • @Paramoto959
      @Paramoto959  5 років тому

      I like the 959/1299 platform over the 1199/899 years. Personally the former feels a lot more buttoned up to me 😎

    • @AlanTrades
      @AlanTrades 5 років тому

      The 899 looks better tho imho

  • @08ChrisMC
    @08ChrisMC 5 років тому +3

    Just catching up on some of your videos. The people complaining about heat have clearly never ridden an RSV4 in traffic. Fans come on around 215*F.

    • @Paramoto959
      @Paramoto959  5 років тому

      I mean with bigger displacement comes more heat, even Japanese 1000's run warm. Price we pay to ride cool bikes! Thanks for the comment 👍👍

    • @robminor190
      @robminor190 4 роки тому

      SE Creator what would
      You have rather bought?

  • @ducaduke
    @ducaduke 4 роки тому +1

    I’m sorry I have a question $200 for what service interval are you paying for which one are you talking about mind you I have a 2012 848 and I’m just curious

    • @Paramoto959
      @Paramoto959  4 роки тому

      My first service was about $200.

  • @samle3908
    @samle3908 5 років тому +3

    Fancy animal has a video like this as well. But he outlines a BUNCH of issues he's had with his 1199

    • @Paramoto959
      @Paramoto959  5 років тому

      I feel like the 1299/ 959 really ironed out a lot of issues. My 959 really has been hassle free if you forgive the set up issues. 😎😎

  • @kennethjohnson6223
    @kennethjohnson6223 5 років тому +1

    I was thinking about buying a 1199 Panigale but all the videos I've seen on the Panigale family..... the sound is gone from a V or L twin type of thump.... I guess the catalytic converter is choking out the sound we all love....... these bikes sound like automatic child's Honda 50 or Honda XL 125....... I thought I wanted timing chains and wet clutches in a Ducati... but the catalytic converter would have to go and Ducati go back to exhaust routed back underneath the seat and rear cowling...looks million times better than the stubby routed out the bottom... and hardly any seat rear cowling looks like a bee stinger... I want the original 1198 but with upgraded engine and suspension..... the Panigale would probably sound pretty good without the catalytic converter and go with original 1198 style exhaust.....

    • @Paramoto959
      @Paramoto959  5 років тому

      Have you heard one in person? I assure they sound much better in person! 😎

  • @JS-fb6ww
    @JS-fb6ww 2 роки тому +1

    I'm torn between the Ducati Super Sport and the v2. The Super Sport while not as powerful on the top end it makes for a much more comfortable ride if somebody wants to cruise around for a few hours. Something about the V2 in spite of having no gas gauge is really peaking my interest. I just can't decide. It's a shame that right now in order to get a bike you have to put a deposit on it and wait anywhere from 2 to 3 to 4 months for it.

    • @Paramoto959
      @Paramoto959  2 роки тому +2

      The 959 Has been more comfy to me then my 600's. I actually rode this bike about 500 miles one day.

  • @isdx9980
    @isdx9980 4 роки тому +1

    I'm considering a used 959 in my country. Do you think its a good idea to buy a 959 that's a few years old but has done less than 5000 kms? What can be the worse possible repair I may have to look at, assuming the worst usage and maintenance done by the owner.

    • @Paramoto959
      @Paramoto959  4 роки тому

      Since Volkswagon group took over reliability has been very good. I would make the decision on the individual motorcycle. Has It been serviced at appropriate intervals? Are they're a bunch of mods?

  • @silviocastaneda1323
    @silviocastaneda1323 4 роки тому +1

    I agree with you with everything you talked about. I had a 2003 cbr600RR for 10 years and that Yoshi undertail would scorch my ass and balls every ride. The seat on the 600rr was also twice as uncomfortable as my 1299.

    • @Paramoto959
      @Paramoto959  4 роки тому +1

      Dude those older bikes, Not comfy at all!

  • @bng2679
    @bng2679 3 роки тому +1

    I am was confused about the throttle play (had never ridden a panigale) Every bikes has it, we purposely keep a little free play while we adjust our throttles. After read some of the comments here, I started the think the play from panigale is (not throttle free play) not from between throttle cable tension/the control but from the control itself. Means, in other bikes, the free play only exist just before throttle open but in panigale the play exist all the time making control difficult? Not sure my understanding is correct. 🤔

    • @Paramoto959
      @Paramoto959  3 роки тому

      Theres a tiny bit of free play on the Panigale throttle, like you said its there for a reason. A lot of people hate it though and install a spacer.

    • @diemman70
      @diemman70 3 роки тому

      It makes the play between shifting hard especially on a 1299 since the motor will jam if you turn it just slightly and die if you don’t give it enough: stopped to first.

  • @dsd-downshiftdave8056
    @dsd-downshiftdave8056 2 роки тому +1

    Do u still have the bike? 6 months of no issues is nothing
    Any issues after few years?
    I've had 2 Daytona had nothing but problems everyone said get a r1
    My 2015 had only 18000 klm And had issues
    Everyone Is telling me to stay away from ducati because they are problematic
    But I'm in love with it
    Please let me know of any issues

    • @Paramoto959
      @Paramoto959  2 роки тому +1

      I’ve had the bike since 2018 and haven’t had any issues aside from very minor set up issues when I first bought the bike. If I remember right the exhaust valve cable was caught up and needed to be replaced. But it was completely covered by warranty and I haven’t had any issues since.
      Ducati used to have a terrible reputation but since Volkswagen group took over Lamborghini / Ducati both companies have gotten significantly more reliable.

  • @v2taoandzen364
    @v2taoandzen364 5 років тому +3

    Love your stuff, keep up the good work!!👍👍

  • @andrewg4412
    @andrewg4412 4 роки тому +1

    Didn't read up on the bike but test rode it yesterday, at about 10-20% throttle seems the revs surge, made it really annoying to try to ride in traffic since the throttle did not feel linear at all, and yeah it cooked my thighs and ass like no tomorrow, most certainly the hottest bike i've ever been on and i've rode the 1299 xD
    It was my dream bike, my bias is towards this bike not against it, and sadly I have to say I won't ever buy one. I love everything else about the bike, but the odd non-linear throttle right down where you will sit most of the time riding the bike daily ruins it, even the heat is bearable.

    • @Paramoto959
      @Paramoto959  4 роки тому

      I don't have any of these issues with my 959🧐🧐 Maybe issues with that in particular bike?

    • @andrewg4412
      @andrewg4412 4 роки тому

      @@Paramoto959 honestly engine braking was set to be as harsh as possible and the dealer chucked me on it with no info aside from it being in race mode haha. I've ridden some other ducatis and i think it's because of the slack in the throttle itself as i found fixes for that.

  • @v2taoandzen364
    @v2taoandzen364 5 років тому +3

    Your intro music reminds me of the show, “friends”.

    • @Paramoto959
      @Paramoto959  5 років тому

      Ah the old intro. Good times 😂😂

  • @tupezeamarion2209
    @tupezeamarion2209 2 роки тому +1

    Your rite, the bike do not get hot, every one lying about that, people are just followers. I have no problem 😌

    • @Paramoto959
      @Paramoto959  2 роки тому

      From time to time but its not a constant thing :)

  • @ballpythonnate72
    @ballpythonnate72 6 років тому +1

    Because I want the 959 to be my next bike but the only few dealers are 2ish hours away. Wondering what your opinion on this would be.

    • @jhitchman1
      @jhitchman1 5 років тому

      Nathan Anderson not sure if you picked it up or not but have them ship it if you don’t want to ride two hours

    • @Paramoto959
      @Paramoto959  5 років тому +1

      The only issue I see is that I would advise you to have the dealership do the services on your bike. So if that’s too far to take a motorcycle for you, maybe try and find a closer authorized Ducati mechanic. 😎

  • @christopherjohnson6056
    @christopherjohnson6056 2 роки тому +1

    Eliminate the throttle play you’ll find it a lot better , you have to eliminate it first to realize what a pain it is, and I’ve never had that amount of play in any other bike I’ve owned .

    • @Paramoto959
      @Paramoto959  2 роки тому

      I’ve had more play in Hondas I’ve owned.

  • @hellsfalcon
    @hellsfalcon 4 роки тому +2

    Picking mine up this Friday. 🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻

    • @Paramoto959
      @Paramoto959  4 роки тому

      Yes! Congratulations! How do you like it!?

  • @AlanTrades
    @AlanTrades 5 років тому +1

    Is that the comfort seat? How does it compare to the stock seat

    • @Paramoto959
      @Paramoto959  5 років тому +1

      It is. The stock seat is well designed but its for track use if you want to ride for more then an hour you need the comfort seat.

    • @AlanTrades
      @AlanTrades 5 років тому +1

      @@Paramoto959 ok thanks, how is it 2 up? Mine only has the single seat

    • @Paramoto959
      @Paramoto959  5 років тому +1

      @@AlanTrades I haven't deleted the rear seat (yet) but my girl has her own bike so my rear seat is unused lol

  • @tough931
    @tough931 5 років тому +2

    I'm watching this because the new V2 has came out. My bmw running so perfectly I got really bored 😔

    • @Paramoto959
      @Paramoto959  5 років тому

      Ducati’s especially the Superquaddro that will be in the V2 are very reliable. Once VW group purchased Ducati and Lamborghini reliability was greatly improved.

  • @streetsquiid5615
    @streetsquiid5615 5 років тому +1

    Nice info, I'm picking up a used 899 (there is also a 959 available, but Just love how the 899 looks.) and the heat is being an anticipated issue cause almost everybody who has ridden the bike are complaining about it!

    • @Paramoto959
      @Paramoto959  5 років тому

      The 899 is a solid bike as well! Ps the heat isn’t that bad 👍👍

  • @GOLDENTEMPLE68
    @GOLDENTEMPLE68 5 років тому +1

    I installed the spacer kit. Deff pros and cons to installing it. I wrapped the seat with a leather cover it helped with the heat also leather gear will negate any heat issues on the seat and clutch cover. Great vid!

    • @Paramoto959
      @Paramoto959  5 років тому +1

      I’d like to ride a bike with the throttle kit installed to really see the difference! 😎

    • @GOLDENTEMPLE68
      @GOLDENTEMPLE68 5 років тому +1

      Paramoto 959 quick shifting and down shifting with the quickshifter is alot easier. Slow speed maneuvers become shittier tho u basically need to always have the clutch in so its not overpowering with little to no throttle engaged. Deff pros and cons to it. With that said i have left my spacer kit in havent taken it back out 😂

    • @Paramoto959
      @Paramoto959  5 років тому

      Sounds like the good out weighs the bad for sure! 😎😎

  • @bighonky1974
    @bighonky1974 5 років тому +1

    Planning to buy a monster and im trying to find problems to look for

    • @Paramoto959
      @Paramoto959  5 років тому +1

      I think most Italians, Ducati, Lamborghini have really turned up the reliability and quality its hard to find fault nowadays. 😎😎

    • @bighonky1974
      @bighonky1974 5 років тому

      @@Paramoto959 thx

  • @ballpythonnate72
    @ballpythonnate72 6 років тому +1

    How many miles are u at man?

    • @Paramoto959
      @Paramoto959  6 років тому

      I’m approaching about 5K as of today.

  • @RahBarnett
    @RahBarnett 5 років тому +2

    Another informative video; you rep Team Ducati well!!!

    • @Paramoto959
      @Paramoto959  5 років тому

      Thank you! Maybe they’ll sponsor the channel with a V4 one day! 😂

  • @iblongshia
    @iblongshia 2 роки тому +1

    I agree with you, the heat is not that bad. In the Philippines on youtube, you see girls riding panigales in dresses. 🤣😂😂

    • @Paramoto959
      @Paramoto959  2 роки тому

      Thats one helluva mental image!!

  • @959pilot4
    @959pilot4 4 роки тому +1

    Downshift83 in Jacksonville.

    • @Paramoto959
      @Paramoto959  4 роки тому

      Yeah he’s been in Florida for a minute. I’ve been watching since he was up in the North West :)

  • @BELANOVA74
    @BELANOVA74 6 років тому +2

    I have no complaints either those who do are pansy's. 959 owner here

  • @powellsautomotive61
    @powellsautomotive61 3 роки тому +1

    Header wrap

    • @Paramoto959
      @Paramoto959  3 роки тому

      Honestly I still don't think the bike needs anything. I ride around in hotter weather then most and don't have any issue.

  • @jpics
    @jpics 4 роки тому

    Ah yes it gets hot as hell.

    • @Paramoto959
      @Paramoto959  4 роки тому

      Mine gets a little hot nothing like the full size Panigale's though 👍👍

  • @namepassword2106
    @namepassword2106 5 років тому

    What a freaking annoying sounding engine.

  • @roky7180
    @roky7180 4 роки тому +1

    Sell FIAT buy something Japanese

    • @Paramoto959
      @Paramoto959  4 роки тому +1

      😂😂😂 We got a funny guy over here 😂😂😂

    • @roky7180
      @roky7180 4 роки тому

      @@Paramoto959I like Ducati ist so nice look and sound have but I sold my the Ducati 999 just because every weekend before driving something was broken. or the aluminum part of the tail broke from vibration, the exhaust blew off, and the ECU broke down. then battery every weekend for something.

  • @DearMajesty
    @DearMajesty 4 роки тому +1

    DEBUNK! lol..........