Important PSA From a Former Cult Member (LDS)

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КОМЕНТАРІ • 277

  • @Satanic_Disciple
    @Satanic_Disciple 3 місяці тому +219

    As an ex-mormon and former veil worker, I can confirm that she is speaking the truth.

    • @PoorStargazer
      @PoorStargazer 3 місяці тому +18

      Former veil worker? Damn that's hardcore

    • @SteveSmith-os5bs
      @SteveSmith-os5bs 3 місяці тому +24

      The blood oaths were what bothered me the most about the endowment ceremony.

    • @DoOneMore150
      @DoOneMore150 3 місяці тому +22

      Former ordinance worker here, agreed!

    • @Satanic_Disciple
      @Satanic_Disciple 3 місяці тому +21

      @@SteveSmith-os5bs they removed those pretty quick once it leaked. Yet the Temple ordinances are supposedly unchanging.

    • @kurt666morris
      @kurt666morris 3 місяці тому +21

      @@SteveSmith-os5bs Blood Oaths were horrible. I thought the LDS Church got taken over by cult leader Charles Manson. .....I also hated how they touch parts of you during you first time through. I understand that has changed too because of all the complaints.

  • @TimLambert101
    @TimLambert101 3 місяці тому +179

    If people resort to making personal insults or abusive comments it merely shows they can't win the argument

    • @mylesmarkson1686
      @mylesmarkson1686 3 місяці тому +10

      @@Coastal1931 That's not Ex-Mo-Lex. It's Tim. But maybe if you're lucky, he'll pass along the message.

    • @kamisakura568
      @kamisakura568 3 місяці тому +15

      @@Coastal1931 How about you take a course on comparative theology then, hotshot? And stop trying to harass youtubers. You being such an authority and all...

    • @jonjahr3403
      @jonjahr3403 3 місяці тому +14

      ​@@Coastal1931And that right there is part of the problem. The attitude that you are perfectly fine with someone leaving the church but only if they do not talk openly about it. The door swings both ways. I could say I have no problem with mormons being members of the church only as long as they don't talk about it and you'd probably find that very offensive. If you're going to be true believing member member of any religion. You have to face the fact that not everybody is going to a positive experience in that religion and if they lose faith then they every right to talk about it.

    • @namastezen3300
      @namastezen3300 3 місяці тому +7

      *raising their voice, resorting to insults or violence. All the best regards to you 🙏

    • @user-by3me4vr5j
      @user-by3me4vr5j 3 місяці тому +11

      ​@@Coastal1931 The real question is, why are you even on this site to begin with? As an ex mormon myself, I know for a fact that mormons are commanded to stay away from so called anti mormon sites. There is nothing that has been said that isn't true and she has every right to put it out there.on HER channel. You also have every right to believe what you want, but if you take offense to someone telling the truth, tune out.

  • @kylaallen822
    @kylaallen822 3 місяці тому +102

    Stooping to using the exact language they prohibit of others is SUCH a perfect Mini-example of the reasons why some of us leave.

    • @stormthrush37
      @stormthrush37 3 місяці тому +14

      I never thought about it that way before. Great point!

  • @1bean
    @1bean 3 місяці тому +117

    In addition to being so spiteful, the language they’re using is shocking coming from faithful Mormons. It’s like they’re “fair gaming” you. Like they don’t see you as a human anymore, like you’re so evil that they somehow get a pass for breaking the rules just to insult you. That’s so disturbing

    • @laceandribbonsviolin
      @laceandribbonsviolin 3 місяці тому +17

      I agree, how can they be “good upstanding Mormons” if they use foul language like that?

    • @AS72831
      @AS72831 3 місяці тому +5

      Yes exactly!

    • @nicephorusP
      @nicephorusP 3 місяці тому +6

      In many ways, Mormonism feels like Scientology with a hundred year head start.

  • @jamesbrothersstudio4660
    @jamesbrothersstudio4660 3 місяці тому +59

    My first time going through the temple in 1999, I couldn't stop the voice inside my head screaming, "oh my god! I'm in a cult!" Weeks later, I was in the MTC thinking, "oh my god, it's a brain washing camp. A prison! I can't leave campus? I can't be alone for 10 minutes! I'm in Hell!" I got in trouble on a daily basis. Once, for racing an apple and an orange down the sidewalk. I was creating a negative atmosphere by trying to have some fun.
    A month later I spent every cent I had to buy a bus ticket because I couldn't leave any other way. I tried. My family wouldn't support me, and the church refused to let me leave. I never went to church again.
    I refuse to support family baptisms, mission calls or any other church related calling or event and to this day, wish I could go back and unconvert the few people I was responsible for converting while I was on the mission. Yeah... it's a cult.
    My parents once asked me how I would raise a family outside of the church. I told them, "You don't need religion to believe in the devine. You don't need to be mormon to be a good person or have a steady moral compass." My daughter is all the evidence I need to know I was right.
    You and some of the other exmos speaking out has been a reminder of all the reasons I left the LDS cult so many years ago.
    BTW, love those glasses.

    • @DevoShire
      @DevoShire 3 місяці тому +2

      If you consider yourself Christ-oriented, you have to ask yourself ‘WWJD’
      If the answer is all the stuff the Mormon Church does, you’re in the right place.
      If not, though… 🤔

    • @briankelly8848
      @briankelly8848 3 місяці тому +4

      Thanks so much for sharing your experiences. When I sit down and review my life and experiences in the lds church, I feel ashamed, bullied, and brainwashed, I still cannot believe how these people that were in my young life tried so hard to destroy my critical thinking. Now at 70 years old, even after running away from the church, at 25 ,I still have frustration and anger issues. I will never set foot in another church of any denomination. If I am approached on the street by some bible thumper, my first thought is that this person would become violent to enforce their opinions on me. I love my life as it is, without this mind controlling , money grabbing, scamming cult. Of all the threats, dangers, and risks we are exposed to in life, I feel that the lds church, as well as most other religions are the biggest threat to to my safety, sanity, and peaceful prosperous life.

    • @Nothereforit174
      @Nothereforit174 3 місяці тому

      @@briankelly8848the white supremacy in that last sentiment about most religions. Don’t mention the diverse Middle East either because much of what you all complain over is American interference founded. Even the so called religious conflicts in parts of Africa are just the fault lines some people broke apart at when fighting over who gets to control their own resources for western exploitation(like your diamonds). I’m a Christian feminist abolitionist. Don’t define me by your life. Glad you have some sense of peace though, even it seems you could use some therapy to stop calling me a Bible thumper(ew, I’m not a tailed animal) and to release some fear of violence you may be anticipating more than anything. Bless your heart(no sarcasm)

    • @Nothereforit174
      @Nothereforit174 3 місяці тому

      You didn’t really describe a cult, just not an environment where they were not actively going to finance you leaving which tbh makes sense if they want you to reconnect with the religion and it’s meant to be a development program. You came broke on your own by choice. Your family didn’t have to pay for you. You were at an intense boot camp for mission and they probably wanted you to see it through and not be easily discouraged. I’m not a Mormon or ex Mormon lol. I’m just using logic from what I know from your story and information about MTC. When I was in band camp, I also had to see it through even though it was very hot and we have less than ten minutes to ourselves. We were all hot, sweating and less than an arms length apart at all times with short bathroom breaks 😂 maybe they didn’t think you were being serious enough for the environment. I’m not trying to be mean, but certain environments have different rules. On the field we couldn’t move from a stance even if a fly landed on us because the shine could be seen on our instrument and it would throw off uniformity so like you’d better have been being stung by a bee or something before you moved at the end of a march. Steady moral compass and making the best decisions for yourself or being the most kind and considerate person are things I’ve learned are different. Often atheists are just decent people and that’s where it ends. Decent being actually complacent in harmful systems by doing no volunteer work nor activism and being ruder but thinking if they’re not shanking someone, they’re moral. It’s a generalization, but it’s just my observation the bar is lower for non religious people and I don’t admire that as someone who believes in civic engagement even if I take my religion out the equation. I was raised to be of service to other humans and be exceptional. Not all atheists hold high standards for themselves and their kids in an act of “rebellion” that becomes complacency over time. So I’d be careful of that because moral is both a bare minimum and one not many people meet as often as they think, especially able bodied cishet white people in the west. But also discipline and rules aren’t bad, maybe it’s the way you told it but it kind of just read like someone who hated not being allowed to do as they please at a serious training program....like maybe mission wasn’t even for you...but idk the rules about when you have to do what so no judgement there

  • @PlatinumAltaria
    @PlatinumAltaria 3 місяці тому +57

    The reason cults are so hostile to people who leave is that they're nearly impossible to get back. Once it's clear that you won't be converted, anyone is fair game.

  • @TallKulWmn1
    @TallKulWmn1 3 місяці тому +75

    ExJW here reaching out to congratulate you for escaping. I know how hard it can be. Best wishes on your new adventure of life!

  • @blainefarnsworth5569
    @blainefarnsworth5569 3 місяці тому +86

    Spoken like someone that has found more than a few excellent reasons for staying unchained from a club that offers no free will to its membership.

  • @stormthrush37
    @stormthrush37 3 місяці тому +75

    0:47 "Zero tolerance for criticism or questions." Well that one's far too familiar.

    • @janhankins911
      @janhankins911 3 місяці тому +16

      And if you dared to question, you were not "worthy", you were not "good enough", you didn't have a "testimony" (and they'd look at you like "what's wrong with you?"). I always felt so judged and found lacking in the church. And it makes me angry now--what right do those people have to judge me or anyone else? I think perhaps that's God's job (assuming a supreme being exists at all and if not, they still have no right to judge other people).

    • @SteveSmith-os5bs
      @SteveSmith-os5bs 3 місяці тому +7

      In the 70s and 80s, you could have some legitimate discussions priesthood meetings as time went on, and things became more restrictive. You could no longer have open discussions.

  • @Gingerninja137
    @Gingerninja137 3 місяці тому +49

    im so sorry you're getting these comments. i left when i was 17 and your videos were one of the big parts of me realizing that i was in a cult. you're not a piece of shit and im very grateful that you made information accessible to me when i needed it.

    • @akisatsuki8444
      @akisatsuki8444 3 місяці тому +2

      Yeah her videos are what made me realize I wasn’t crazy 😂

    • @madzazmarland3785
      @madzazmarland3785 Місяць тому

      I left @ 16, went back at about 22, then left in 2022 xXx

  • @Trixie_Lavender
    @Trixie_Lavender 3 місяці тому +45

    I left the church before going through the temple. So glad I didn't stay longer

    • @skilynnclari
      @skilynnclari 3 місяці тому +2

      Same. I had no doubts when I made the choice to leave, but then when I saw video of the temple ceremonies a few weeks later? That's when it hit me that I hadn't been in a church, I had been in a cult.

    • @DevoShire
      @DevoShire 3 місяці тому +2

      @@skilynnclari
      Which by the way, they keep very hush hush, threatening people in the name of God, and in earlier times in even more
      graphic descriptions.
      Whoever came up with this was/is a very weird dude.
      God (Heavenly Father), or …
      Joseph Smith?

  • @denisekeeran9883
    @denisekeeran9883 3 місяці тому +59

    Aside from being needlessly crass/rude, I will never understand why people follow accounts of those they hate. If they don't like what you're saying, doooooooon't waaaaaaaatch. They are literally ignoring their own advice to not watch "anti" material. They are telling on themselves.

    • @llpolluxll
      @llpolluxll 3 місяці тому +20

      Especially considering that the church advises members to not watch this material. Honestly, though, those are the members that are more likely to make it out as rude as they are. They are actually watching the anti-mormon videos. I remember when I was in that position though I wasn't being toxic in the comments section.

    • @TimoRutanen
      @TimoRutanen 3 місяці тому +10

      They believe they're defending the faith. And try to claim influence of affirmation by telling their group about how they defended the faith.

  • @etiennesportfolio
    @etiennesportfolio 3 місяці тому +42

    Just stopped what I was doing because it's not okay that people keep acting like exmos are the worst but they keep being so rude! I want to thank you about your work, it's not easy, and I admire how you still act kindly

  • @Zeett09
    @Zeett09 3 місяці тому +38

    Secretive indeed. I’ve never been Mormon but I’ve studied it for over 50 years. It was just two years ago
    when I found out about the “Second Anointing”.

    • @Mark73
      @Mark73 3 місяці тому

      Please explain what Second Anointing is

    • @Zeett09
      @Zeett09 3 місяці тому

      @@Mark73 its a secret temple ceremony. it’s basically a ticket straight to the celestial kingdom only provided to the elite fist class members.

  • @rebekahrutledge1633
    @rebekahrutledge1633 3 місяці тому +30

    It is so hard to leave, just mentally every part of you seems to scream not to do it. When you recognize that it is a cult you no longer feel so weak. You are struggling because you have been raised in a cult your whole life. I love your videos! ❤

  • @nomollyshere
    @nomollyshere 3 місяці тому +16

    They can’t handle their cognitive dissonance breaking before their eyes and are lashing out…oh well😅

  • @sjenson6694
    @sjenson6694 3 місяці тому +13

    For all the scared crappy cultists there are just as many of us who adore you and want to see you thrive and have seen and agree with everything you've talked about..

  • @China-Clay
    @China-Clay 3 місяці тому +17

    Exactly, the rude people are self proclaimed active LDS, it just gives me goosebumps all over to want to go back and emulate their behavior, seriously, Lex, I have tons of respect for you, tons ♥️♥️

  • @edwardschwenk3100
    @edwardschwenk3100 3 місяці тому +19

    As a non practicing Catholic, I can honestly say nothing about a single video of yours has upset me yet Miss Exmo. You, and Alyssa Grenfell are really helping me understand why those Mormon Elders just wont quit knocking on the front door of my house. I always encourage those missionaries to leave their cult, and give up on everything they've been taught. I don't think any have taken my advice yet though.

    • @robynryan7473
      @robynryan7473 3 місяці тому +4

      In response to that a little, Alyssa had a video segment on the why. According to the Mormons they have an area book. She showed hers. And they have every contact in it and every little detail. They share it in your local ward so later Mormons would see they visited and would go back. After seeing that video it makes tons of sense. My uncle would send Mormons to us all the time because he was a bishop and wanted all his family converted. So we definitely are in that area book.

    • @daxleone
      @daxleone 3 місяці тому +4

      When the missionaries show up, answer the door naked, or say, 'Hey welcome!!! We were just getting ready to celebrate Black Mass and we need two more candle holders 🤣🤣😂😂

  • @elizabethdavis8594
    @elizabethdavis8594 3 місяці тому +32

    As an ex and lesbian I've been told by members that if I really pray and read the BoM I can always change my ways and still follow Christ. They don't know our minds and our lives, what it like for us to have to live with this over our heads every day. I prefer to look at my own grown and at who I am no t what they are.

    • @BeachsideHank
      @BeachsideHank 3 місяці тому

      When a person says ‘Homosexuality is a sin’ I say fine, since it’s your religion not mine then don’t be homosexual because *it is religion itself that is an unnatural artificiality peculiar to mankind itself, you do not find kangaroos or lobsters worshiping a god.* Now then, if one can *"love the sinner, but hate their sin",* one can also *"love that believer, but hate their belief".* *BTW there is no science *“proving heterosexuality”* nor is there any *”straight”* gene either.

  • @ScreamSodaInc
    @ScreamSodaInc 3 місяці тому +28

    I'm confused about these mormons saying the s-word in your comments. That wasn't allowed when I was in the church.

    • @chlyri
      @chlyri 3 місяці тому +9

      a lot of members have loosened up.

    • @edcallahan9536
      @edcallahan9536 3 місяці тому

      Almost anything (or everything) is justified when defending the church…even up to murder (see Book of Mormon and early church history for examples!). Confirms the point about being in a cult! And yes, all my adult LDS friends and even adult siblings faded away when I left…and it was mutual as I faded away from them as well-a good thing really-Mormons generally do not like being around people who challenge their beliefs (even if you are not challenging or confronting them directly)…its just a lot of dang hard emotional and psychological work to keep that charade going!!! 😂

    • @GFH-rp8or
      @GFH-rp8or 3 місяці тому +2

      My ex (still a true believer) curses like a sailor. I was thinking the same as you -- is that cool these days?

  • @carolyearsley
    @carolyearsley 3 місяці тому +18

    When I left, the things that were done to me by a very devout close family member are too egregious to post here. It was so traumatic that a non Mormon neighbor thought that I was developing Parkinson's.

    • @llpolluxll
      @llpolluxll 3 місяці тому +7

      I don't know what you've been through but I'm sorry all the same. I've known several people including myself and my family who get like that due to their trauma. Healing from it is a lifelong journey.

    • @amytheshihtzumom
      @amytheshihtzumom 3 місяці тому +5

      I’m so sorry you had to go through so much trauma. I hope you’re doing better now.

    • @carolyearsley
      @carolyearsley 3 місяці тому +3

      @@amytheshihtzumom Thank you Amy. Time has helped the healing. It was a real eye opener of how vicious some members can be, with so much pent up emotion surfacing when their belief system is threatened.

    • @jberndt88
      @jberndt88 3 місяці тому

      I’ve seen this kind of dark energy before. You are easier to discredit because you can’t hold a cognitive thought together. I find it’s important to find a real honest energy worker. The normal things I’ve seen in Utah sounds schizophrenic to most the rest of society.

  • @janhankins911
    @janhankins911 3 місяці тому +23

    As a former member who never got to the temple (I was never "worthy"), I don't know what happens at the temple. But I have no doubt that you and other members who talk about their experiences at the temple are being truthful. I won't say 'No, Mormons don't do that". That was one of the things that always bothered me about the Church--everything surrounding the temple was hush-hush and so secretive. I didn't connect it with a cult at the time, but it just always seemed very suspicious to me that they wouldn't be honest with you about what happens in the temple. As I've said before, given what I've seen and heard about what happens at the temple, I'm glad I was never worthy.

    • @carolyearsley
      @carolyearsley 3 місяці тому +5

      There are YT videos of what goes on in the temple, that will open your eyes about the occult rituals.

    • @llpolluxll
      @llpolluxll 3 місяці тому +3

      You are worthy of true happiness no matter what anyone says. I remember doing baptisms for the dead in the temple which was a peaceful experience but I can't really say that I've ever felt "filled with the spirit". Everyone experiences the temple differently and some even realize that they are in a cult while they go through their sealing. I'm sure it's one of the reasons they have been changing that ritual to be more toned-down.

    • @carolyearsley
      @carolyearsley 3 місяці тому +1

      @@edwardschwenk3100 Try the videos by New Name Noah.

    • @jberndt88
      @jberndt88 3 місяці тому

      Once you realize anyone can connect to the Holy Spirit without permission from anyone else you will realize you have always been worthy. People of all cultures around the world have been doing it for thousands of years. It’s an ability within all of us.

    • @carolyearsley
      @carolyearsley 3 місяці тому

      @@edwardschwenk3100 Do a search for Mormon church temple rituals filmed. Some are sure to come up.

  • @palousetrance2823
    @palousetrance2823 3 місяці тому +9

    Thank you, Lex, for all of your efforts. I appreciate your fairness, civility, and always bringing the receipts.

  • @Mikelray-df9my
    @Mikelray-df9my 3 місяці тому +7

    I have total admiration for the younger generation being able to step away from the church. I was a member over 45 years before leaving.😢

    • @AS72831
      @AS72831 3 місяці тому

      I agree! My children left and I followed. I’m so grateful to them.

  • @user-gu4jh9is4i
    @user-gu4jh9is4i 3 місяці тому +5

    You hit the Bullseye with every point you made. I cannot tell you how many LDS members I have asked questions of, full well knowing the answer already, who say “That’s not true, whoever told you that is lying to you.” However, the next time I see them, they avoid the topic at all. I assume it’s because they found out a little more about their “church” that they now have to wrestle with. Unfortunately, they will get the church’s manipulated response to the topic.

  • @hazelgirl5091
    @hazelgirl5091 3 місяці тому +3

    The first person that ever called me "a piece of shit" was my father when I was a teen. And the thing about Mormons is, once you're labeled as such, that's all you'll ever be.. I was forced to go no contact from my entire family 5yrs ago because I could never escape that "piece of shit" label. Just being myself made me an awful human being. Why? Because I held them accountable for their toxic behaviors. Apparently that made me a "cold, callous, and heartless person who didn't give a fu*k about anyone but myself."

  • @crystalchristensen7972
    @crystalchristensen7972 3 місяці тому +8

    ❤Love to you Lex !! Thank you for all your hard work and efforts to speak the truth!!❤️❤️

  • @kirkkohnen5050
    @kirkkohnen5050 3 місяці тому +10

    Lex, You Are A TREASURE!!!!!

  • @marebear6727
    @marebear6727 3 місяці тому +4

    Lexi, im proud of you. Seems like since you called them out on their bs, not as many mormons are commenting now. We gotch you & we are standing in your corner with you!

  • @mallwave
    @mallwave 3 місяці тому +4

    From one exmo to another, I appreciate you affirming our experiences. You're valid af and it helps to hear that we're not alone with carrying this garbage on our shoulders after the fact.

  • @ahwell9984
    @ahwell9984 3 місяці тому +4

    It's fantastic that you could get enough emotional distance to examine the negative comments carefully. Very insightful, and Im sure this will be helpful to others.

  • @barrydworak
    @barrydworak 3 місяці тому +4

    Good for you, Lex, staying strong and speaking openly and honestly, with vulnerability, but also firmess in your convictions.
    You're awesome, and I'm truly happy for you that you have a husband who is on the same path, sharing the journey. Some people who meet in the church (or other cult organizations) are forced to choose between their spouse and their own freedom.
    Keep it up! For anyone who sends nastygrams, there are 1000 of us cheering you on!

  • @grymhild
    @grymhild 3 місяці тому +4

    Same experiences, I am so thankful for you speaking out

  • @doomsdayaddams2894
    @doomsdayaddams2894 3 місяці тому +2

    How awful that people who feel that they have the moral high ground would be so vile to another person.

  • @nicolafigini784
    @nicolafigini784 3 місяці тому +17

    I hope the comments don't get to you.

    • @ExmoLex
      @ExmoLex  3 місяці тому +8

      Most of the time they don’t phase me at all (:

    • @nicolafigini784
      @nicolafigini784 3 місяці тому +3

      @@ExmoLex Good, I'm glad.

  • @marklanza5023
    @marklanza5023 3 місяці тому +12

    Supposedly godly people acting non godly or anything related to Jesus.

  • @hellonewman5855
    @hellonewman5855 3 місяці тому +3

    Exmo Lex, you produce great content. Please keep going. You are doing a valuable service. Greatly appreciated.

  • @kelleren4840
    @kelleren4840 3 місяці тому +2

    I just woke up so I don't have a witty comment. Here's my offering to the algorithm gods.
    You rock lex!

  • @burner27
    @burner27 3 місяці тому +1

    I remember as a member being so disappointed in the temple. It was such a nothing burger from an inspiration standpoint.

  • @unicorntamer2207
    @unicorntamer2207 3 місяці тому +5

    Well, in my opinion, I think you are THE shit ❤
    Seriously though, I think you have a very respectful presentation style of important information. You just tell it like it is in a calm and informative way. Keep it up!

  • @beebefoxy
    @beebefoxy 3 місяці тому +1

    Yes! All of this! I’m tired of being dismissed and invalidated and told I’m wrong and just need to forgive.

  • @daxleone
    @daxleone 3 місяці тому +5

    I WANT MY TITHING BACK FROM THIS BULLSHIT CULT!!!

    • @AS72831
      @AS72831 3 місяці тому +3

      Right. Cause it ain’t a donation it was coerced. If you don’t pay you can’t… plus we should get a share in the 100+ billion, because they used our money to invest.

    • @daxleone
      @daxleone 3 місяці тому +1

      @@AS72831 You are 100% correct ... I also want interest ... I can't believe it took 7 generations of my family before someone figured out that this is a disgusting dangerous cult ... and now I'm the black sheep of the family 🙄

    • @savannahsmiles1797
      @savannahsmiles1797 3 місяці тому +1

      @@AS72831 cuz it ain't a religion so much as it is a CORPORATION.

  • @SoraQuill
    @SoraQuill 3 місяці тому +1

    “This is all private temple stuff shut your mouth” big cult energy right there

  • @TheToscanaMan
    @TheToscanaMan 3 місяці тому +1

    You are in a much better place now and I commend your strength to do what you did to leave. Well done. You are now free to examine the world around you in a rational way. My best to you Lex.

  • @tracygittins6343
    @tracygittins6343 3 місяці тому +1

    Until VERY recently, 2023, loud laughter was prohibited, not in the temple, ANYWHERE!

  • @leeboriack8054
    @leeboriack8054 3 місяці тому +1

    “If you want to upset someone, tell them a lie. If you want to infuriate them, tell them the truth.”

  • @burner27
    @burner27 3 місяці тому +1

    I used to have this one dude who would only talk to me when I said something about the cult. I eventually told him that being acquaintances from BYU doesn't mean that he can talk to me like that.

  • @PoorStargazer
    @PoorStargazer 3 місяці тому +7

    Theists are broken by people who speak out against religion

  • @FruitoftheMinistry
    @FruitoftheMinistry 3 місяці тому +3

    I’m an ex Mormon too. They are the most hateful group of people 😅 you are so loved and valued! Screw them 👍🏽

  • @gornser
    @gornser 3 місяці тому +1

    They are reacting that way to stop thinking about your valid points.

  • @Vikki.ledge987
    @Vikki.ledge987 3 місяці тому +1

    When people get 🤬, you know you're hitting the right spot 👍🤣🤣♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️

  • @harryfve5
    @harryfve5 3 місяці тому +4

    You are sopha king good. You know you’re on the right track when the haters join the show. Cheers.

    • @kylezo
      @kylezo 3 місяці тому

      The point is that sofa is a real word that's why it's used in "sofa king".

  • @Sklallamstrong
    @Sklallamstrong 3 місяці тому +1

    Preach! I'm sorry people are treating you like that and I wish I was surprised by it. It just makes me feel better about being done with such a toxic organization and culture.

  • @atchafalaya73
    @atchafalaya73 3 місяці тому +3

    A TBM using the word ‘shit’? Now who’s really the Jack Mormon here?

    • @savannahsmiles1797
      @savannahsmiles1797 3 місяці тому

      go further...what about the Bishop telling his story about TBM's doing a LOT more than cussing, and the "church" either looked the other way or blamed the victims.

  • @RichardCrabb
    @RichardCrabb 3 місяці тому

    That needed to be said. Thank you for your courage and honesty. I'm not surprised you've had some personal attacks. That's just how they are - showing their true colors.

  • @anna-marie-
    @anna-marie- 3 місяці тому +5

    I love your glasses!!! Where did you get them?

    • @ExmoLex
      @ExmoLex  3 місяці тому +1

      Thanks!! They’re from Zenni (:

  • @susansmart8086
    @susansmart8086 3 місяці тому +1

    I left the church in the late 70s. So glad that I did. It blows me away how much more intense of a cult it has become.

  • @JoandArc5005
    @JoandArc5005 3 місяці тому +2

    This is my absolute favorite video of yours by far. Shared. Subscribed. Created a second account and subscribed. Love the research and clarity

  • @IfYouSayStay
    @IfYouSayStay 3 місяці тому +1

    Your videos have been so good for my deconstruction. I love it and you’re amazing. Also the glasses with the hair up look is SO CUTE.

  • @inChristalone1960
    @inChristalone1960 3 місяці тому

    Excellent video Lex!! 😊❤
    Thank you. 🎉

  • @samhennis
    @samhennis 3 місяці тому

    This is gold ❤. I remember as a missionary, reacting to people who would claim that the Mormon church is a cult. I couldn’t fathom how people could think such a thing. It took me a few years after the beginning of my de-conversion from Mormonism to finally see that institution as a cult

  • @shannonmcrae1364
    @shannonmcrae1364 3 місяці тому +4

    I love your glasses !!!

  • @clw87
    @clw87 3 місяці тому

    Requiring silence can be so dangerous ☹️

  • @jaredjones777
    @jaredjones777 3 місяці тому +1

    I just wish your were on here 20 years ago Lex. Every video you done has helped me undertstand what the hell happened when people stop talking to me at church for not going on a mission.

  • @pbezunartea
    @pbezunartea 3 місяці тому

    Keep up the good work! Great video!

  • @captainwumbo7629
    @captainwumbo7629 3 місяці тому +12

    I’m so sorry you get such disgusting comments like that… i’m not surprised though as thats how brainwashed people typically react to the slightest criticisms, regardless of how rational said criticisms are.

  • @richardjones1699
    @richardjones1699 3 місяці тому +3

    Yep. Maybe I should stop refraining from going to TBM channels and add some of my own thoughts to their discourse.

  • @lcd7556
    @lcd7556 3 місяці тому +4

    What is it about your ever changing appearance? I never know what you will look like from post to post. Saying that, I really like your content. I've learned so much.

    • @ExmoLex
      @ExmoLex  3 місяці тому +1

      Idk 😂 I do have to wear glasses for a week because of an eye injury

  • @daemon9737
    @daemon9737 3 місяці тому

    You rock Lex!! Keep up the great work!!

  • @jstinnett80ify
    @jstinnett80ify 3 місяці тому

    Great video characterizing what a cult is and how it operates. Validation is important. You did and are doing the right thing here.

  • @ExmoRaymo
    @ExmoRaymo 3 місяці тому +2

    Keep up the good work!!

  • @caseyjude5472
    @caseyjude5472 3 місяці тому +3

    They’re probably freaked out that there’s other cults out there (JWs, Scientology) whose ex-members experience the exact same treatment when they leave their cults.

    • @jberndt88
      @jberndt88 3 місяці тому +1

      In Utah people also leave LDS and form their own cults. It’s so interesting to watch. They create something to cast hate on something but also do the same behaviors of the organization they hate.

  • @kathy.7475
    @kathy.7475 3 місяці тому

    Long ago I considered the church. I attended one service. Shortly after I had a series of nightmares that were terrifying. I told my brother about them and he said they may be a warning to avoid the Mormon church. I cut ties with the church teachings and the nightmares ended.

  • @jaimereynolds258
    @jaimereynolds258 3 місяці тому

    Off topic, look at your sweater!! I love it! ❤

  • @jonjahr3403
    @jonjahr3403 3 місяці тому

    Great video Lex one of your best in my opinion.

  • @namastezen3300
    @namastezen3300 3 місяці тому +1

    One Mormon friend gave birth at age 15 (before she was taught the facts of life) her family had to pay a church member to marry her in a church brokered deal. (Her husband pimped her out to his friends) Another friend was excommunicated when she turned 11, and told the most hilarious anecdote of how the elders treated her when her son was baptized. If it works for them, I'm happy for them.

    • @savannahsmiles1797
      @savannahsmiles1797 3 місяці тому

      Why is it cultish type religions are such DAMN perverts. They sexually assault the young and get away with it.

  • @recoveringadventist2631
    @recoveringadventist2631 3 місяці тому +2

    Keep up the good work Lex!

  • @jamesmccomb4790
    @jamesmccomb4790 3 місяці тому +1

    Well done Lex. You are brave and doing good work

  • @amyg3525
    @amyg3525 3 місяці тому +1

    What you described here -other than the temple and rites secrecy-is very very similar to my experience leaving an IFBC.
    I’m so sorry you are called names and sent hate. Thank you for your great vids.

  • @christinemiller8723
    @christinemiller8723 3 місяці тому +1

    The cult members were just embarrassed by participating in such idocrasy!

  • @ElStinko-ve6mb
    @ElStinko-ve6mb 3 місяці тому +1

    My boss is an ex-Mormon. He got fed up with all the bullshit rules and now identifies as agnostic. When he interviewed me, he took me out for Mexican - and had a shot of tequila. And he drinks coffee out of a BYU mug. I had a feeling I’d like it there, and so far, so good.

  • @felloserv
    @felloserv 3 місяці тому

    When I was a believer, I used to get upset at people attacking MY religion. It was a wake-up call to realize just how much I was attaching my sense of self to mormonism. It was unhealthy. Good advice to question why you get offended if someone criticizes your beliefs. Thanks for all you do, Lex. Don't let the haters get you down.

  • @deconstructing7307
    @deconstructing7307 3 місяці тому

    Wow. Good for you!

  • @marksandsmith6778
    @marksandsmith6778 3 місяці тому

    superb Work lexi
    your anger was harnessed to try to help others and add clarity generally
    M

  • @darkfireeyes7
    @darkfireeyes7 3 місяці тому

    This is 100% what I experienced after I left and I only tried it for less than a year. It still traumatized me

  • @enoynaert
    @enoynaert 3 місяці тому

    The church is so secretive, it has ordinances like the 2nd Anointing that are so secret that most members are not supposed to know about it.

  • @steveng8727
    @steveng8727 3 місяці тому

    Survivor from a similar cult - born again calvary chapel. Glad you got out dear.

  • @troisquarts3659
    @troisquarts3659 3 місяці тому +1

    I too hope you're proud of yourself.

  • @maree268
    @maree268 3 місяці тому

    Great video

  • @estherclark820
    @estherclark820 3 місяці тому

    Truth. It was not Morman-ism, but a different cult I escaped from 4 decades ago. All the same indicators.
    One of the scariest feelings is that one's church might be a cult. I would encourage people to take these markers seriously. Take a step back, maybe, give one's head the advantage of objectivity.

  • @ramblinjanes700
    @ramblinjanes700 3 місяці тому +1

    I support you completely! You know what is wild? The ad attached to your video right after your video was "Hebrew Book of Mormon"! What the hell?

    • @savannahsmiles1797
      @savannahsmiles1797 3 місяці тому

      no Hebrew would be caught dead reading the BOM. They read Torah or Talmud.

  • @allegedotter4323
    @allegedotter4323 3 місяці тому

    A secret ritual to solidify loyalty huh? Blood oath anybody?

  • @charlesschenk6290
    @charlesschenk6290 3 місяці тому

    Fortunately someone managed to video record the Super Secret endowment ceremony and put the video online, making it available for everyone to see.

  • @tater60
    @tater60 3 місяці тому +2

    I was raised quiverfull evangelical Christian. They would call Mormonism a cult, but not them.. lets just say, pointing out their cult behavior always causes pearl clutching and insults..

  • @_Romer
    @_Romer 3 місяці тому +1

    This is entirely true, hating on others for leaving a religion is definitely cultish. And yes as an ex-mo I can confirm if you don’t believe exactly what they teach you then you are out casted. One time my bishop refused to renew my temple reccomend because I said I supported gay marriage 💀

  • @unclemaui
    @unclemaui 3 місяці тому +1

    further confirmation i made the right choice in leaving.

  • @hossmcgregor3853
    @hossmcgregor3853 3 місяці тому +8

    3 things.
    Audio level is really low. I don't know if you can fix that without re-uploading.
    By definition we are apostates, even if we're not from the same branch of Christianity. I consider that a good thing.
    Good short response video, though.

    • @ExmoLex
      @ExmoLex  3 місяці тому +6

      Can’t fix at all sadly, for some reason all my TikTok videos end up quiet on UA-cam but regular volume on TikTok.

    • @hossmcgregor3853
      @hossmcgregor3853 3 місяці тому +5

      @@ExmoLex thanks, for all you do, btw.

    • @janhankins911
      @janhankins911 3 місяці тому +2

      Yes, I found the audio really low, too. But I just turned up the volume on my end and it was fine.

  • @SarahShepz
    @SarahShepz 3 місяці тому +3

    **ItS sAcReD nOt SeCrEt*** no it’s a cult. 😅

    • @savannahsmiles1797
      @savannahsmiles1797 3 місяці тому

      it was STOLEN from the Masons, so not even sacred or original...and it IS a cult darling, but more so a corporation. What you don't know, or won't accept CAN hurt you. Lil joe liked to plagiarize and steal from others. Look into what he did with his bank. He seemed to like lots of stuff that didn't BELONG to him, especially other men's wives, kids, and being a pervert. NOT holy, SACRED or a prophet behavior.

    • @mommyofkittens4809
      @mommyofkittens4809 3 місяці тому

      @@savannahsmiles1797it was sarcasm

  • @demoman5707
    @demoman5707 3 місяці тому

    My first wife was Mormon. She wasn't active but was just raised to believe. Her Mom was a bit more into it and her sisters were even more devout. I was wearing a cross one day and one of her sisters ask why would I wear something that remind me of how Jesus died and if someone died from being shot would I then wear a bullet. This took me by surprise as I was raised Christian Methodist and said that it was a reminder of how He died for our sins. I then asked how their religion came to be... Oh lord what a story, guy finds golden tablets, burys golden tablets, guy goes back and can't find golden tablets so writes what he remembers. If that isn't enough when the mom died and the funeral was held, the "preacher" or whatever he was then explained 3 levels of heaven you could go to depending on how you lived your life. Memory eludes as to the names of them, but the top tier claims to make you God like. Talk about blasphemy. They claim to follow the regular Bible plus the Mormon Bible. I think I saw more than an "outsider" should have during that funeral. It proved to me once and for all that the Mormon religion was absolutely a cult. Very little difference from the Muslim religion, with the exception that Muslims believe that non believers should be beheaded. It's amazing that people will believe a lot of things when they have no belief to start with. To each their own I suppose.