I bought my 3.5v6tt GV70 sport with luxury pack last week. Matte white with red nappa interior. I’ve owned Audis, BMW’s and the Genesis is absolutely on another level. Turns heads everywhere, love it.
awesome combo you must have been an early adopter Matt. I had only had limited combos available to me because most of the August and September stocks have been already taken.
@@stephenbates3848 I actually ordered very early July, the white wasn’t available so I went matte grey, then I called the dealer a week later and as luck had it, someone had literally cancelled their order of the matte white/red interior within that hour so I switched it!
My GV70 2.2 luxury turbo diesel arrived two weeks ago and the two dials is really no issue...l have the Adriatic Blue with tan interior, easily in my books leaves the A5 in its wake. Merc & Audi watch your backs....no service fees for 5 years, and picked up at my home...no brainer.
Hi Mary, how is your GV70? How is the quality of the ride, comfortable? Do you have the 19" or 21" rims? Is the diesel engine strong enough, what is fuel consumption like. Great car in my opinion.
@@Richard-sl8we hi Barry, l am riding around on the 21inch rims, the diesel has eco setting (never used, because l like to travel), Comfort setting which is fine going shopping etc, the Sports mode, gets the seat to hug you and it moves, nice on the M1 Gold Coast when it's not a parking lot. Fuel, 7 per 100 but don't quote me cause l just enjoy the drive, but l assume eco would do better, but this lady is unlikely to try eco.
@@Richard-sl8we hi Barry, there's room, had hubby look today and he stated if you removed the compartments with the safety stuff, all l can say great tyres Michelin 21inch and RACQ...on a 1800 emergency number. It worked well with Lexus...so no worries here...
If global reliability statistics are anything to go by then the Genesis wins hands down. Should the Genesis prove the same as it's parent Hyundai it becomes a no contest event.
Excellent comparison Tom. For me the “whole of life” ownership costs would favour the Genesis.The Hyundai group has an excellent customer service record with a very good warranty and complementary free servicing. While the Volkswagen group customer service has been somewhat indifferent recently and having to negotiate for an extended warranty period and servicing in a luxury vehicle just doesn’t cut it anymore.
I drove the GV70 3.5 and you can feel the difference between the driving mode, compare to the screen dial. In the US you can adjust the lower section of the seat.
Nice review Tom! That's the first review of the GV70 diesel I've seen in English. Here in Korea, you can spec out the diesel just like the gas models; sport package and adaptive suspension. It's a fantastic vehicle!
@Aydin Khan The Tiguan is out of its league here. Even the R-Line, at least in my market, while it looks great, does not have the power, the interior design, or the material quality to compete here.
First time viewer (and subscriber) and I love your style as you're looking skin deep. Most people are easily dazzled by the outside appearance but driving experience is just as important! Well done
Definitely the Genesis. From exterior and interior design to the long warranty, its simply the better buy. The Audi is something my parents would drive, mainly for the Audi badge. Id actually prefer a loaded CX5 myself because I'm not a "badge whore"
I am in that camp buying a top spec CX5 4 years ago and it has been fabulously reliable after a terrible BMW 4 series. Tempted by the Genesis in the UK as all my friends are now buying Korean cars
Thanks for the detailed review Tom as always many points raised that other reviewers overlook. For me I need to enjoy the driving experience and enjoy the ownership experience as well, For me it's the Genesis with the 3.5 for the reasons you brought to light. A lovely looking car in every way. Still some quirks but overall a more updated package that is easy on the eye for me. I can't handle owning another car with black or grey interiors anymore I need a change. This car feels more "bespoke" to me.
In Korea you can get the 3.5T V6 with the non-sport fully loaded luxury model (like the one you're driving) with those beautiful 21 inch non-sport wheels but I think the adaptive suspension is reserved only for the Sport models even in Korea.
I've owned a Genesis Sedan (nee G80) since new in 2014 as a 2015 model. I have to concur with pczam that I, too have had zero problems. Beautiful cars and I will be purchasing a 3.5t GV70 Sport Advanced, Savile Silver and Ultramarine Blue interior. Problem is finding one here in Florida.
As for the two dials...you are the problem Tom 😁. Remember you have it for a short period. Owners will acclimatise...trust me. And it dies seem that the finishes are different what with one being smooth and the other knurled. Nice review overall. GV70 for the win!
Nice review. I have the RWD 2.5 in that colour on the way. Did these cars get the specific suspension tune that the Hyundai group normally do for Australia?
Do we know that? I don’t think we do. Audi was average for reliability in JD Power’s 2021 dependability survey, Lexus was at the top, and Genesis fell perfectly in between them
@@chasingcars I had two Audis personally and. A5 Sportback and a Q3. My dad had an A6. All three had common issues - rattle, engine oil leak and software issues. And guess what? These issues start to occur close to the 3 yr warranty mark and Audi is not willing to fix them for free! Yep I'm done with Audi. At least BMW makes fun drivable cars until they last, Mercs make fancy interiors but what does Audi make to put them up there with those two?
Tom - can you please do a review comparison between the Alfa Stelvio and the Jaguar FPace as i m torn between these two vehicles. Which one do you think is a better buy?
Definitely keen to see what Mazda does with the next CX-5 and whether it will creep further into this segment. Also, Tom - can't say this enough mate, your reviews are simply the best in my opinion. I'm not in the target market for either of these, but I just enjoy your analysis and review of things haha
Anyone else think the pre-facelift Q5 was a lot classier looking? Not really a fan of those vertical stripes on the grille, and those artificial vents on the left and right. The wheels too, look out of place, like they've come off a Honda CR-V or similar. Kind of looks like the vehicle is having an identity crisis. The previous design is definitely the more appealing, in my opinion.
Hey Tom, great video as always! But I do have to point out the there was a fair bit of bias toward the Audi. The Genisis is also a great SUV but the majority of the review centred on the Audi. It also seemed like the Aldi was getting a bit too much positive feedback when the SUVs are so similar. The Aldi looks dated on the inside and out and the Genisis looks sleek, modern and stylish, I feel a less bias comparison would be beneficial. Now this is the first time I've had a negative reaction to one of your reviews so a I'd hate to think you'd take this feedback the wrong way. Keep up the good work make and I look forward to many more great videos 😎
I think it’s important not to confuse an effort to clearly justify why one vehicle is superior for ‘bias’. Bias means an unfair preference for one over another. I have no connection with Audi and no reason to prefer a base diesel Q5 over a diesel GV70. Just not my sort of cars at all. The reason perhaps 55% of the footage was centred on the Q5 was because it’s important to carefully lay out the facts about why it does the midsize luxury SUV thing so well - so that it is crystal clear where the GV70 needs further refinement in future. ‘Bias’ doesn’t mean one vehicle won. It means it won unfairly. Which, in this case, simply did not happen.
Hey chasing cars, I'm sorry if I offended you in my last post, for the most part I've never had any issues with any of your videos. They are for the most part brilliant! It was just that one that I didn't care for, don't take offence to that comment, it was just standard feedback!
Hi Tom. You say the Genesis has been taking notes on the premium end of luxury SUV’s and matches them very closely. Yes, it may be a new entry into the market, but I think they have a very strong product, especially with their great warranty. Over the years they will also make improvements most likely in less weight and better fuel economy. It’s certainly a great looking car and I always think the Audi is becoming a little dated. I always think of an Audi as a Volkswagen, albeit a very premium car. I’d have either before a BMW but probably lean towards the Genesis on style. The driving characteristics of both are very similar and not so noticeable for the average buyer. Great comparison Tom. I enjoy your tests.
As good as the Audi is, don't forget that there are options packs that will easily push the price north of $100k. The Genisis is a fully loaded vehicle & the Audi can't really match what the Genisis has as standard . On the Genisis, The free 5 yr servicing will attract buyers as will the 5yr warranty , & though Audi's servicing costs are reasonable , its 3 yr warranty isn't. The Nappa leather in the Genisis is excellent, whereas Audi uses a Leatherette . Full leather is part of an options pack for the Q5. The Audi wins definitely on fuel efficiency , but the Korean wins on being fully loaded, a better warranty, free servicing & that Nappa Leather & a more attractive interior . Though the Audi sells in bigger numbers, the Genisis is a more unique, vehicle, & one that should be on any prospective buyers shopping list, particularly in diesel.
The Genesis isn’t fully loaded…it starts more expensive, and the car you see here has an $11,000 Luxury package. No doubt it does have more features for the money, but let’s not pretend it’s all standard.
@@chasingcars Your grossly...grossly and disappointingly, err by failing to mention that many dupes - and that includes journos - fall victim to brand perception and German manufacturers' cunning way of exploiting the perception that the pricier, the better. Hence people prefer a stripped-down glc class to a full house Lexus RX. Are tou all kidding me? FFS
I definitely love the GV70 over the Q5 and I'm currently trying so hard to decide which one to get... and the only thing that keeps me still leaning towards the Q5 is the resale value of the Genesis. The GV70 is so much ahead of the Q5 in terms of its looks both inside and out Yet Genesis hasn't even done 4 digits in sales so far in 2022 and that's a big alarm bell for a car worth over 80K. I recon after 1 year of ownership one would be lucky if they loose less than 30 - 40% of its value. But Kudos to Genesis. The GV70 is just sex on wheels !!!
For mine the Genesis is a class above. New car reviewers base their ideals on brand and superficial qualities. I feel its more important to take into consideration customer service and reliability and resale and for that the Genesis is the new king.
The Audi dealership service center is a red carpet experience & the price to service both are comparative. Depreciation is comparable but driver engagement is chalk & cheese.
Awesome detailed comparison review. I enjoyed watching! So many loud Genesis fanboys in the comments section though. They seem to be worse than Tesla fanboys. The old "boring" Q5 won fair and square. Wonder why it sells like hot cakes? Because it's that good. A new one would trash this GV70. Looking fancy does not mean being the best.
Certainly a good thing for Genesis that they’ve built a following very quickly! GV70 is a good car, it’s just much better in 3.5 V6 form - not even for the engine, for the suspension
Audi all day long. The Genesis is a beautiful car, but ergonomics are something I hold to a high standard and I just couldn't get comfortable in one a neighbour of mine has one and let me take it for a day trying to convince me, after 2 hours my sciatica was playing up and I couldn't wait to give it back I was literally limping around for 2 days after.
@@spiffleable I fiddled for 2 hours just couldn't get comfortable apart from that I actually like the car. But I have the same issue in alot of cars. Just have a fucked up body
You are right audi removing the rodle dial is a mistake it makes the center console ugly, for the two roll dail is well perfectly positioned so you wrong about that one.
The interior and exterior is not "brown" - it's actually burgundy (Barossa Burgundy for the exterior). Depends on how the light hits it, but it isn't brown. ;)
Unfortunately we can’t build to order for every comparison - as explained, we have to align spec as closely as we can and engine is probably the best basis to start from
It’s such a small thing, but I really wish that harsh beep when you close the tailgate in the Genesis is changed. It’s a Hyundai carryover and triggers me after owning a Santa Fe for years.
... but you don't mention how many 1 000s of $$$$$$ you threw away replacing the many sensors and other electro. comps, which packed up. Shame on you for not buying Korean and having fed hordes of poor, hungry kids with the money saved. Here in my country we use the interjection, "Eish" to describe such insanity.
@@shaunrosant5813 I don't know who you are directing your comment at? I would appreciate you removing this comment and adding it to the correct post. I bought my Q5 2nd hand & have had very little expense in keeping it maintained.
Fake exhausts would be much better than those blacked out bits either side of the lower rear bumper on the GV70. That's enough of a reason to get the 2.5T petrol.
Why am I not surprised that yet again you pick a VAG car over the competition. You seem to downplay the Q5’s deficiencies and amplify the Genesis’s. Its plain to see the Audi looks old and boring both interior and exterior, and that’s because its old. (It has Audi’s old interior, long phased out of the A6, Q7, A3 etc.) I have yet to drive the Genesis, so I will take your word that it doesn’t drive well, but it does look great, well specced, has an amazing warranty. I guess I should just follow your reviews that don’t compare cars to VAG, cause they arr very informative. Cheers
“Yet again”? The GV80 won over the Touareg in our recent comparison, so you’ve just made that up. Not everything is a conspiracy: the reasons the Q5 is easier to live with (superior ride quality, superior ergonomics, agility, pace, lower fuel consumption) were clearly stated, and the GV70 was given a fair showing. You don’t have to accept the results, but that doesn’t mean they’re wrong, and it especially does not mean they’re biased, as you strongly imply without basis.
I have a KIA Stinger GT2 compared to me BMW for the $$ KIA and Genesis (Hyundai too) have it together on style and performance for the $$- hands down.,
Firstly, I have to say that Diesel is not an option for me as I suffer from acute asthma; secondly that my aim is towards the higher spectrum. That said, I'm still conflicted between the SQ5 (which is out due to my condition), the GLC 43 AMG (yes, I'm aware of their poor service and durability record), the X3-M40i, the Porsche Macan S or GTS (I find a little too small in the back), the F-Pace P400 and the GV70 3.5T.. I still have half a year to decide tho, even though my heart tends towards Genesis. That aim is due to the fact that Kia, nor Hyundai proposed their Sorento and Santa Fe with what should have been the 2.5T engine. Time will tell..!!
Wait to test drive the 2022 Macan S, which has been given the awesome 2.9-litre engine from the RS4 and outgoing Macan Turbo (with a bit less power). Should be quite something at $105k AUD.
@@davidperry3531 Thus my comment in brackets, I did include it, coz it came on the initial list I drew; similarly is the inclusion of the SQ5 which I cannot consider due to my condition, but had to include it in the initial list..!! That said, thanx for your comment, tho, it confirms what a lot of people say about that vehicle...!!
For crying out loud - if you have two cars together then show them together !! Don't talk about the boots separately, or the dimensions - just put them side by side and show us how they compare. Such a wasted opportunity
I never found 2nd gen Q5 and A5 beautiful, imo first gen Q5 and A5 were better looking! Love the look of rest of Audi products thou! And Genesis just hit the nail!
Yes the Q5 is the typical Germanic and a bit bland, but functional. It does exactly what its made for and really nothing more. A saying my grandmother and mother always used was "Lo Borato sale caro," roughly meaning the cheap comes out expensive (in the long run). The Genesis is great looking, but I don't think I would ever be able to pass up on the fact it's a Hyundai underneath. Just like what Toyota did 3 decades ago and brought out Lexus. Amazingly built and extremely reliable, yet quite bland/ Even with the "surface" of the Genesis being quite great, it will always be a Hyundai with a lot of leather and soft, squishy materials. I would happily pay more for a Q5 (SQ5 would be my choice) for a great way from A to B.
The rear hatch open makes the Audi SUVs look horrible. The interior looks so cheap. Wake up Audi. Good work Tom. PS, still waiting for the coffee invite :) 😀
Clearly the Q5 does not stand a chance against the GV70, even the SQ5. The comments on ride quality are simply a nitpick, and I think that's where the comparison ends.
No, ride quality actually isn’t a “nitpick” when you have to live with that suspension for years on end. You don’t just stare at these vehicles, you drive them
@@chasingcars I totally agree with your comment- just having a car which some might view as ‘nice to look at’ is not what a review like this is all about, particularly in this price bracket.
@@chasingcars great rebuttal! Many just look at the exterior and don’t think about the ride. I drove a Lexus which looked much better than an older Q5 and had better tech but the ride quality simply couldn't compare, the Q5 won hands down
@@chasingcars That’s a matter of opinion. I drove both, but GV70 with turbo V6. The GV70 is the clear winner. I’d never buy a diesel vehicle. And Audi reliability sucks. I owned an A4 and it started to fall apart after 30K miles.
Mate your a Audi lover, why are you comparing cars for I don't know, I have owned Audi's and they are a problematic vehicles to own. Don't listen to this bloke by an Audi and you will definitely have problems. Be honest mate Audi Volkswagen any motor cars that comes from this group are problematic. Ask any mechanics that works on this cars, but please make sure he is independent and not a Audi dealer. Consumers do your homework before buying any Volkswagen group cars to
This guy is biased towards Audi he does not want to bag it .Audi looks after you hey whene you get invited to drive there cars .Talk to mechanics about audis and they will rubbish them endless money pits
No, we get nothing from Audi other than the same access to cars to evaluate that we get from every manufacturer in Australia (including Genesis). We are totally fair and offer all cars an even playing field.
My GV-70 has been in the service department longer than it has been in my driveway. Battery keeps going dead and they can't figure it out. I love the car, but they can keep it. BUYER BEWARE!
Yeah that Q5 looks dated by comparison (because it is). However as usual with HyunKiaGen, once you look beneath the veneer, you see the cheapo family DNA within. The GV70 is the one you'll be happier with on day one; but four years on you'll wish you'd bought the Audi.
I bought my 3.5v6tt GV70 sport with luxury pack last week. Matte white with red nappa interior. I’ve owned Audis, BMW’s and the Genesis is absolutely on another level. Turns heads everywhere, love it.
Stunning combination!
awesome combo you must have been an early adopter Matt. I had only had limited combos available to me because most of the August and September stocks have been already taken.
@@stephenbates3848 I actually ordered very early July, the white wasn’t available so I went matte grey, then I called the dealer a week later and as luck had it, someone had literally cancelled their order of the matte white/red interior within that hour so I switched it!
@@chasingcars thanks, it’s going in for a Brembo red brake conversion today, window tints and gloss black roof and mirror wrap! I’ll post a video
@@mattinsydney3236 looks the red nappa leather in reality and without sunshine more like a classic dark red or like an aggressive bright red?
That Genesis is simply gorgeous. Wow.
Oh man.. Audi look at least a decade behind Genesis.
Nothing else in this class beats Genesis GV70
My GV70 2.2 luxury turbo diesel arrived two weeks ago and the two dials is really no issue...l have the Adriatic Blue with tan interior, easily in my books leaves the A5 in its wake. Merc & Audi watch your backs....no service fees for 5 years, and picked up at my home...no brainer.
Hi Mary, how is your GV70? How is the quality of the ride, comfortable? Do you have the 19" or 21" rims? Is the diesel engine strong enough, what is fuel consumption like. Great car in my opinion.
@@Richard-sl8we hi Barry, l am riding around on the 21inch rims, the diesel has eco setting (never used, because l like to travel), Comfort setting which is fine going shopping etc, the Sports mode, gets the seat to hug you and it moves, nice on the M1 Gold Coast when it's not a parking lot. Fuel, 7 per 100 but don't quote me cause l just enjoy the drive, but l assume eco would do better, but this lady is unlikely to try eco.
@@mary49ist Hi Mary, very nice. Do you know if you can fit a space saver spare wheel in the boot with the 2.2d?
@@Richard-sl8we hi Barry, there's room, had hubby look today and he stated if you removed the compartments with the safety stuff, all l can say great tyres Michelin 21inch and RACQ...on a 1800 emergency number. It worked well with Lexus...so no worries here...
What is your fuel economy like in and around town and country roads?
If global reliability statistics are anything to go by then the Genesis wins hands down.
Should the Genesis prove the same as it's parent Hyundai it becomes a no contest event.
If they can solve the suspension fidget, then sure - but knowledge of reliability doesn’t cosset me when I’m getting jostled around
Excellent comparison Tom.
For me the “whole of life” ownership costs would favour the Genesis.The Hyundai group has an excellent customer service record with a very good warranty and complementary free servicing. While the Volkswagen group customer service has been somewhat indifferent recently and having to negotiate for an extended warranty period and servicing in a luxury vehicle just doesn’t cut it anymore.
Genesis for me. May I also ask where you did this review? Great location!!!!!
Looks like Bobbin Head National Park Sydney
Akuna Bay Area Of Ku Ring Gai Chase NP. That stationary spot is Illawong Bay Picnic Area.
@@TankEngine15 google maps strong in you, impressed
I drove the GV70 3.5 and you can feel the difference between the driving mode, compare to the screen dial. In the US you can adjust the lower section of the seat.
Nice review Tom! That's the first review of the GV70 diesel I've seen in English. Here in Korea, you can spec out the diesel just like the gas models; sport package and adaptive suspension. It's a fantastic vehicle!
Awesome! Adaptive suspension on the diesel would have solved one of its bigger issues and I suspect it would have won the comparo with that feature
Thanks Tom, another great, honest review. Loving the comparo style. Keep up the awesome work!
Thanks Mark. Will do.
GV70 for me, ahead of the Q5, the GLC, and the X3.
@Aydin Khan The Tiguan is out of its league here. Even the R-Line, at least in my market, while it looks great, does not have the power, the interior design, or the material quality to compete here.
@@bill7481 vw is sh*t
First time viewer (and subscriber) and I love your style as you're looking skin deep. Most people are easily dazzled by the outside appearance but driving experience is just as important! Well done
Definitely the Genesis. From exterior and interior design to the long warranty, its simply the better buy. The Audi is something my parents would drive, mainly for the Audi badge. Id actually prefer a loaded CX5 myself because I'm not a "badge whore"
Ha ha, agree re Audi
LOL. A bit 'gross' to use the word 'whore' here. but I agree. Bang on the buck description
I am in that camp buying a top spec CX5 4 years ago and it has been fabulously reliable after a terrible BMW 4 series. Tempted by the Genesis in the UK as all my friends are now buying Korean cars
Good indepth comparison Tom, I am after a GV70 but will go all in on a 3.5L twin turbo.
I am going for the cheapest one in March 2022 when our mortgage balance is deemed to be negligible, good luck
The moment he said the word “ensconced” was when I truly understood what it’s like to sit in those seats.
Thanks for the detailed review Tom as always many points raised that other reviewers overlook. For me I need to enjoy the driving experience and enjoy the ownership experience as well, For me it's the Genesis with the 3.5 for the reasons you brought to light. A lovely looking car in every way. Still some quirks but overall a more updated package that is easy on the eye for me. I can't handle owning another car with black or grey interiors anymore I need a change. This car feels more "bespoke" to me.
The 3.5 is the way to go in the Genesis.
That Audi looks old tired and deleted sitting beside of that Genesis
Would you please compare hows the ride quality difference between lexus and genesis?
The Lexus NX doesn’t ride well but that will probably change with the new one.
In Korea you can get the 3.5T V6 with the non-sport fully loaded luxury model (like the one you're driving) with those beautiful 21 inch non-sport wheels but I think the adaptive suspension is reserved only for the Sport models even in Korea.
Want that GV70 right now! 👍😀
I've owned a Genesis Sedan (nee G80) since new in 2014 as a 2015 model. I have to concur with pczam that I, too have had zero problems. Beautiful cars and I will be purchasing a 3.5t GV70 Sport Advanced, Savile Silver and Ultramarine Blue interior. Problem is finding one here in Florida.
As for the two dials...you are the problem Tom 😁. Remember you have it for a short period. Owners will acclimatise...trust me. And it dies seem that the finishes are different what with one being smooth and the other knurled. Nice review overall. GV70 for the win!
"it's a good size, ten inches" hmmmm words I've definitely said before hehe
liam!!!
@@chasingcars 😂😂
Genesis intrigues with its luxury but wow the Q5 is a solid segment leader imho 👍 great review Tom 🤘
I’ve just purchased a GV70 and it will replace my X5. Can’t wait!
Would be interesting to compare sq5 vs top range gv70 3.5T.
Is GV70 rear seat more roomier than Audi Q5 ? I have 2023 Audi Q5 and rear seat is not spacious unless you are under 5ft2. It's for kids.
gv 70 feels unsettled? I have a GV 80, and might trade it in for a GV70...constantly having to correct steering? I don't believe it
Okay
comprehensive, articulate, intelligent review, I'll be looking up this site again
Thanks John
Hi Tom,
Will you be testing the GV70 with the 2.5T petrol engine - RWD in the near future?
yes! please!
Nice review. I have the RWD 2.5 in that colour on the way. Did these cars get the specific suspension tune that the Hyundai group normally do for Australia?
No.. the GV70 comes with the "International Tune"... no local setup was needed they said.
@@nsw3000 Woops, seems like an oversight. From these reviews at least!
Genesis anyday. Reliability is unparalleled and even the warranty is longer. Can't believe Audi still only offers a 3 yr warranty lol
I think the reliability is something to be found out in few years time as well as its depreciation! But we can be optimistic!
@@Ali-yj6pl I don't think we need to wait another few yrs for Audi. We all know how shit their build quality and reliability are in general.
Do we know that? I don’t think we do. Audi was average for reliability in JD Power’s 2021 dependability survey, Lexus was at the top, and Genesis fell perfectly in between them
@@chasingcars I had two Audis personally and. A5 Sportback and a Q3. My dad had an A6. All three had common issues - rattle, engine oil leak and software issues. And guess what? These issues start to occur close to the 3 yr warranty mark and Audi is not willing to fix them for free!
Yep I'm done with Audi.
At least BMW makes fun drivable cars until they last, Mercs make fancy interiors but what does Audi make to put them up there with those two?
Tom - can you please do a review comparison between the Alfa Stelvio and the Jaguar FPace as i m torn between these two vehicles. Which one do you think is a better buy?
GV70 all day long.
Fair enough. Great looking car.
Definitely keen to see what Mazda does with the next CX-5 and whether it will creep further into this segment.
Also, Tom - can't say this enough mate, your reviews are simply the best in my opinion. I'm not in the target market for either of these, but I just enjoy your analysis and review of things haha
Thanks, Guy. I agree: an RWD-based Mazda in this segment should be a good disruptor.
@@chasingcars The imminent CX 50 will be the real premium contender to square up
Anyone else think the pre-facelift Q5 was a lot classier looking? Not really a fan of those vertical stripes on the grille, and those artificial vents on the left and right. The wheels too, look out of place, like they've come off a Honda CR-V or similar. Kind of looks like the vehicle is having an identity crisis. The previous design is definitely the more appealing, in my opinion.
Just one question Tom.....best diesel fuel?
Hey Tom, great video as always! But I do have to point out the there was a fair bit of bias toward the Audi. The Genisis is also a great SUV but the majority of the review centred on the Audi. It also seemed like the Aldi was getting a bit too much positive feedback when the SUVs are so similar. The Aldi looks dated on the inside and out and the Genisis looks sleek, modern and stylish, I feel a less bias comparison would be beneficial.
Now this is the first time I've had a negative reaction to one of your reviews so a I'd hate to think you'd take this feedback the wrong way. Keep up the good work make and I look forward to many more great videos 😎
I think it’s important not to confuse an effort to clearly justify why one vehicle is superior for ‘bias’. Bias means an unfair preference for one over another. I have no connection with Audi and no reason to prefer a base diesel Q5 over a diesel GV70. Just not my sort of cars at all. The reason perhaps 55% of the footage was centred on the Q5 was because it’s important to carefully lay out the facts about why it does the midsize luxury SUV thing so well - so that it is crystal clear where the GV70 needs further refinement in future. ‘Bias’ doesn’t mean one vehicle won. It means it won unfairly. Which, in this case, simply did not happen.
Hey chasing cars, I'm sorry if I offended you in my last post, for the most part I've never had any issues with any of your videos. They are for the most part brilliant! It was just that one that I didn't care for, don't take offence to that comment, it was just standard feedback!
Yeah I would not choose an "Aldi" over the Genesis; but I would choose an Audi.
@@Audios81 Grow up
@@shaunrosant5813 👍🏻
He said the word “ensconced”, well done.
Hi Tom. You say the Genesis has been taking notes on the premium end of luxury SUV’s and matches them very closely. Yes, it may be a new entry into the market, but I think they have a very strong product, especially with their great warranty. Over the years they will also make improvements most likely in less weight and better fuel economy. It’s certainly a great looking car and I always think the Audi is becoming a little dated. I always think of an Audi as a Volkswagen, albeit a very premium car. I’d have either before a BMW but probably lean towards the Genesis on style. The driving characteristics of both are very similar and not so noticeable for the average buyer. Great comparison Tom. I enjoy your tests.
Oooohhh.. A battle of the cars on stilts.
Got no showrooms for Genesis in QLD. Been trying hard but no one can’t point me in the right direction
As good as the Audi is, don't forget that there are options packs that will easily push the price north of $100k. The Genisis is a fully loaded vehicle & the Audi can't really match what the Genisis has as standard . On the Genisis, The free 5 yr servicing will attract buyers as will the 5yr warranty , & though Audi's servicing costs are reasonable , its 3 yr warranty isn't. The Nappa leather in the Genisis is excellent, whereas Audi uses a Leatherette . Full leather is part of an options pack for the Q5. The Audi wins definitely on fuel efficiency , but the Korean wins on being fully loaded, a better warranty, free servicing & that Nappa Leather & a more attractive interior . Though the Audi sells in bigger numbers, the Genisis is a more unique, vehicle, & one that should be on any prospective buyers shopping list, particularly in diesel.
The Genesis isn’t fully loaded…it starts more expensive, and the car you see here has an $11,000 Luxury package. No doubt it does have more features for the money, but let’s not pretend it’s all standard.
@@chasingcars Your grossly...grossly and disappointingly, err by failing to mention that many dupes - and that includes journos - fall victim to brand perception and German manufacturers' cunning way of exploiting the perception that the pricier, the better. Hence people prefer a stripped-down glc class to a full house Lexus RX. Are tou all kidding me? FFS
I definitely love the GV70 over the Q5 and I'm currently trying so hard to decide which one to get... and the only thing that keeps me still leaning towards the Q5 is the resale value of the Genesis. The GV70 is so much ahead of the Q5 in terms of its looks both inside and out Yet Genesis hasn't even done 4 digits in sales so far in 2022 and that's a big alarm bell for a car worth over 80K. I recon after 1 year of ownership one would be lucky if they loose less than 30 - 40% of its value. But Kudos to Genesis. The GV70 is just sex on wheels !!!
I don't see the resale value drop on the 2022 GV 70 though. 2022 Q5 dropped $10000 in 1 year.
looking at both
Q5 rear seat is so tiny, it's for kids.
Should have grabbed the petrol variants instead. The ones people are actually going to buy are no longer the diesel variants.
That’s not correct; Audi sells about a 50/50 split of diesel and petrol Q5s in four cylinder form
For mine the Genesis is a class above. New car reviewers base their ideals on brand and superficial qualities. I feel its more important to take into consideration customer service and reliability and resale and for that the Genesis is the new king.
Dare I say it the Genesis reminds me of the Bentayga !!
GV70, the new luxury..
The Audi dealership service center is a red carpet experience & the price to service both are comparative. Depreciation is comparable but driver engagement is chalk & cheese.
Awesome detailed comparison review. I enjoyed watching! So many loud Genesis fanboys in the comments section though. They seem to be worse than Tesla fanboys. The old "boring" Q5 won fair and square. Wonder why it sells like hot cakes? Because it's that good. A new one would trash this GV70. Looking fancy does not mean being the best.
Certainly a good thing for Genesis that they’ve built a following very quickly! GV70 is a good car, it’s just much better in 3.5 V6 form - not even for the engine, for the suspension
Wait 5 years and see how much it costs to replace the many disposable parts in the Audi. I can tell you after owning one never again.
Hard to see the beauty of the GV70 in BROWN! Why didn’t you choose silver for a more direct comparison?
It’s unusual to get a choice of colour
Audi all day long. The Genesis is a beautiful car, but ergonomics are something I hold to a high standard and I just couldn't get comfortable in one a neighbour of mine has one and let me take it for a day trying to convince me, after 2 hours my sciatica was playing up and I couldn't wait to give it back I was literally limping around for 2 days after.
12 way adjustable seat or 18 ways if you got the luxury pack upgrade, think you needed to adjust it more 😂
@@spiffleable I fiddled for 2 hours just couldn't get comfortable apart from that I actually like the car. But I have the same issue in alot of cars. Just have a fucked up body
The unsupportive squab in the Genesis is a problem for long-legged people
@@chasingcars yeah I'm 6'1" and I've back and gut issues so comfort and ergonomics are something I really look at,
@@mtozzy11 You need better seats. Buy an XC60/90. or bolt their seats into your Audi, if you really gotta.
You are right audi removing the rodle dial is a mistake it makes the center console ugly, for the two roll dail is well perfectly positioned so you wrong about that one.
Mmmm....just make a mental note. gear selector beneath the other one. it's not hard!!
otherwise great review!
Yeah, you’d probably memorise it. Also, make sure you’re in the right gear before toeing the pedal…
Genesis the best 👌🏻
Genesis looks like it could be a Bentley SUV.
It looks more Bentley than Bentley!
@@chasingcars 😁😂🤣😎
Re: the Genesis, while I agree that the 2.2D would be the pick of the bunch, the 2.5G RWD piques my interest more.
Briefly drove a 2.5 RWD on 19” wheels. Pretty good!
@@chasingcars Did it have the same issues re. suspension?
Not as much because there was much more sidewall to passively contain lumps and bumps
@@chasingcars Nice, good to hear. Any chance you will review that variant at some point?
I like your pronunciation of "HYUNDAI".....It sounds near perfect to me unlike others!
The interior and exterior is not "brown" - it's actually burgundy (Barossa Burgundy for the exterior). Depends on how the light hits it, but it isn't brown. ;)
Love your reviews. However, I think a fair comparison would have been comparably equipped vehicles.
Unfortunately we can’t build to order for every comparison - as explained, we have to align spec as closely as we can and engine is probably the best basis to start from
It’s such a small thing, but I really wish that harsh beep when you close the tailgate in the Genesis is changed. It’s a Hyundai carryover and triggers me after owning a Santa Fe for years.
Same.
Great review Tom, the Q5 sounds like the winner. I love my '09 3L V6 Diesel Q5.
... but you don't mention how many 1 000s of $$$$$$ you threw away replacing the many sensors and other electro. comps, which packed up. Shame on you for not buying Korean and having fed hordes of poor, hungry kids with the money saved. Here in my country we use the interjection, "Eish" to describe such insanity.
@@shaunrosant5813 I don't know who you are directing your comment at? I would appreciate you removing this comment and adding it to the correct post. I bought my Q5 2nd hand & have had very little expense in keeping it maintained.
Lost me when you said Q5 sadly lost the rotary dial, it’s the best thing they did.
No, it isn’t
@@chasingcars you must be one of the few people that like it over touch screen.
Fake exhausts would be much better than those blacked out bits either side of the lower rear bumper on the GV70. That's enough of a reason to get the 2.5T petrol.
Why am I not surprised that yet again you pick a VAG car over the competition.
You seem to downplay the Q5’s deficiencies and amplify the Genesis’s.
Its plain to see the Audi looks old and boring both interior and exterior, and that’s because its old. (It has Audi’s old interior, long phased out of the A6, Q7, A3 etc.)
I have yet to drive the Genesis, so I will take your word that it doesn’t drive well, but it does look great, well specced, has an amazing warranty.
I guess I should just follow your reviews that don’t compare cars to VAG, cause they arr very informative.
Cheers
“Yet again”? The GV80 won over the Touareg in our recent comparison, so you’ve just made that up. Not everything is a conspiracy: the reasons the Q5 is easier to live with (superior ride quality, superior ergonomics, agility, pace, lower fuel consumption) were clearly stated, and the GV70 was given a fair showing. You don’t have to accept the results, but that doesn’t mean they’re wrong, and it especially does not mean they’re biased, as you strongly imply without basis.
I think you have missed the point. Tom conducted a very fair review and has given a detailed analysis before arriving at his decision.
Next : lexus ux vs evoque vs xc40
Never liked the look of the current q5. The creases on the doors are all wrong. And the fact that it's built in Mexico is even worse.
If the Q5 is beating it, then the GLC and X3 are going to be no brainer winners. Still good first effort though
GLC’s interior isn’t up to scratch quality-wise. X3 on adaptive dampers could have performed but BMW chose not to participate.
@@chasingcars If BMW chose not to participate, what’s to stop you obtaining a car elsewhere and testing it?
Interesting to see the Audi win.
Agreed I’d go the BMW X3 as well, but both nice cars.
We invited BMW to submit an X3 but they didn’t do so
Please ??? The Audi is nasty cheap hard black plastic everywhere inside.. the GV 70 is light years ahead with spectacular finishes
Audi really deliver quality products but Genesis design wins it for me
I have a KIA Stinger GT2 compared to me BMW for the $$ KIA and Genesis (Hyundai too) have it together on style and performance for the $$- hands down.,
Firstly, I have to say that Diesel is not an option for me as I suffer from acute asthma; secondly that my aim is towards the higher spectrum. That said, I'm still conflicted between the SQ5 (which is out due to my condition), the GLC 43 AMG (yes, I'm aware of their poor service and durability record), the X3-M40i, the Porsche Macan S or GTS (I find a little too small in the back), the F-Pace P400 and the GV70 3.5T.. I still have half a year to decide tho, even though my heart tends towards Genesis. That aim is due to the fact that Kia, nor Hyundai proposed their Sorento and Santa Fe with what should have been the 2.5T engine. Time will tell..!!
Wait to test drive the 2022 Macan S, which has been given the awesome 2.9-litre engine from the RS4 and outgoing Macan Turbo (with a bit less power). Should be quite something at $105k AUD.
Please don’t buy a GLC. I have heard too many design problems with that car both with suspension and brakes.
@@davidperry3531 Thus my comment in brackets, I did include it, coz it came on the initial list I drew; similarly is the inclusion of the SQ5 which I cannot consider due to my condition, but had to include it in the initial list..!! That said, thanx for your comment, tho, it confirms what a lot of people say about that vehicle...!!
For crying out loud - if you have two cars together then show them together !!
Don't talk about the boots separately, or the dimensions - just put them side by side and show us how they compare. Such a wasted opportunity
Who are Hyundai fighting with?
A smartphone manufacturer
Genesis easy win
So he compared an upgraded genesis and a base model Q5 with zero upgrades….. not very equal comparison even cost wise
Yes…which was cogently explained in the video, and the Genesis was not favoured for its additional equipment as-tested
I never found 2nd gen Q5 and A5 beautiful, imo first gen Q5 and A5 were better looking! Love the look of rest of Audi products thou! And Genesis just hit the nail!
I don’t think any SUV can look ‘beautiful’. Yes, most other Audi products have the looks!
Is this a case of damning the Genesis with faint praise?
Think of it as a gentle push in the direction of the GV70 3.5TT, which comes together much better
Please keep your car reviews short now days you are doing over 20mins
Even a car sales person wont talk for this long when trying to sell a car
Go fix your bicycle. It seems you have the attention span of a 6 year old
Genesis // Mazda // Lexus, rule! 💸
Looks like the Genesis is a class above the audi in this video
Cosmetically it’s on another level, though as usual, the devil is in the detail
There's no comparison. Gv70
bruh
@@chasingcars bruh
Yes the Q5 is the typical Germanic and a bit bland, but functional. It does exactly what its made for and really nothing more. A saying my grandmother and mother always used was "Lo Borato sale caro," roughly meaning the cheap comes out expensive (in the long run). The Genesis is great looking, but I don't think I would ever be able to pass up on the fact it's a Hyundai underneath. Just like what Toyota did 3 decades ago and brought out Lexus. Amazingly built and extremely reliable, yet quite bland/ Even with the "surface" of the Genesis being quite great, it will always be a Hyundai with a lot of leather and soft, squishy materials. I would happily pay more for a Q5 (SQ5 would be my choice) for a great way from A to B.
UNINFORMED SNOB. Are you saying German cars age well? LOFL
@@shaunrosant5813 uninformed snob because I have a different opinion?? Typical Lefty; brainless.
The rear hatch open makes the Audi SUVs look horrible. The interior looks so cheap. Wake up Audi. Good work Tom. PS, still waiting for the coffee invite :) 😀
Feels very high quality though, from a basic build perspective.
@@chasingcars Throttle House, thank you
Clearly the Q5 does not stand a chance against the GV70, even the SQ5.
The comments on ride quality are simply a nitpick, and I think that's where the comparison ends.
No, ride quality actually isn’t a “nitpick” when you have to live with that suspension for years on end. You don’t just stare at these vehicles, you drive them
@@chasingcars I totally agree with your comment- just having a car which some might view as ‘nice to look at’ is not what a review like this is all about, particularly in this price bracket.
@@chasingcars great rebuttal! Many just look at the exterior and don’t think about the ride. I drove a Lexus which looked much better than an older Q5 and had better tech but the ride quality simply couldn't compare, the Q5 won hands down
That's the car that nearly killed tiger woods, after he drove it like you would drive the q5..........
The car that SAVED Tiger Woods was the GV80
Driving off canyon roads at 100mph is an interesting way to test cars
@@liamcrofts7202 lmfaooo I guarantee you he's not driving that piece of shit genesis in his private life
@@kingdramanyz You can be stupid or you can be mean. But you’re not allowed to be both.
@@JohnLee-db9zt you can be ccp or American. You can't be both.
Why test dirty diesels ??
Because they’re popular in this segment
Why not ?
Rather have a sexy wagon
Might have to redo the comparison with the new G70 Shooting Brake and the A4 Avant.
@@chasingcars that would make a great video
Petrol gv70 is better!!!
first yes
I m genesis boy
The front on that Hyundai is just hideous!
The Audi Q5 looks so out dated next to the GV70.
Turns out that it’s about more than just skin-depth.
@@chasingcars That’s a matter of opinion. I drove both, but GV70 with turbo V6. The GV70 is the clear winner. I’d never buy a diesel vehicle. And Audi reliability sucks. I owned an A4 and it started to fall apart after 30K miles.
Mate your a Audi lover, why are you comparing cars for I don't know, I have owned Audi's and they are a problematic vehicles to own. Don't listen to this bloke by an Audi and you will definitely have problems. Be honest mate Audi Volkswagen any motor cars that comes from this group are problematic. Ask any mechanics that works on this cars, but please make sure he is independent and not a Audi dealer. Consumers do your homework before buying any Volkswagen group cars to
This guy is biased towards Audi he does not want to bag it .Audi looks after you hey whene you get invited to drive there cars .Talk to mechanics about audis and they will rubbish them endless money pits
No, we get nothing from Audi other than the same access to cars to evaluate that we get from every manufacturer in Australia (including Genesis). We are totally fair and offer all cars an even playing field.
@@chasingcars MONEY PITS
My GV-70 has been in the service department longer than it has been in my driveway. Battery keeps going dead and they can't figure it out. I love the car, but they can keep it. BUYER BEWARE!
Whats the update? Did you get rid of it?...did they find the problem?
Yeah that Q5 looks dated by comparison (because it is). However as usual with HyunKiaGen, once you look beneath the veneer, you see the cheapo family DNA within. The GV70 is the one you'll be happier with on day one; but four years on you'll wish you'd bought the Audi.
You’d only get the Genesis to save money and have a interesting style. Otherwise it’s behind the back in every other regard.
Audi looks so old and dull next to the Korean