As a Judoka, I will not discount the value of Jiu Jitsu, but one rule of a street fight is don't get on the ground as its rarely one on one, and we have had Jiu Jitsu practitioners of all levels in the dojo struggle with beginner Judokas in a standup randori as their throws are pretty basic and easy to counter. It has been made popular with MMA back from the Gracie days, but in reality Judo will prepare you much better for a street combat than Jiu Jitsu.
A lot of sports guys could be in for a shock, espiecally the guys that love to play on their back in guard. There are people that are good at "playing the game" but not good in a real fight. I used to know a few purple belts, the second we stood up i would dominate them as a experienced white belt with a little bit of wrestling knowledge... when engaging on the ground i was pretty screwed, but in a real fight... i'm not going to enter into your guard.
yup, this video is one of the few I have seen where they specifically mention, if you are doing this for a self defence reason, that's how you must train and think, and focus on techniques that won't open you up to attack. People need to stop thinking or referencing Joyce and the early UFC.... dude had been a practitioner for what 20plus years in the first UFC? Or they look at some other videos on youtube, usually of other people who have been training for years rolling up drunk idiots. I have seen many street/bar fights and they all start with pushing/shoving and wild haymakers (and the irony that also happens with trained MMA guys at weigh-ins, it's almost as if outside of control scenarios adrenaline and raw animalistic tendencies take over), and I have seen people go down because they had zero striking/counter-striking ability.
Usually the biggest problem I see from people doing jiu jitsu from video's that exist of people fighting online is positioning. There are certain positions that are fairly ok to be in in jiu jitsu that are very bad to be in in a street fight. The worst one is the being underneath in a mount. If your opponents forehead at any point lines up with your face or chin, you have screwed up massively and should probably have trained to apply your arts in a context that was a little closer to what could happen. With that said, there are a lot of untrained people that will not understand to headbutt and that will automatically be turned into a pretzel by any grappler so even sports jiu jitsu is better than no jiu jitsu probably.
It will help if a) you focus specifically on a handful of techniques that won't get you killed in bar on the street or b) you spend the decade plus neceassary to get to really high level where most scenarios will be under your control. Otherwise it's going to give you false confidence.
As a Judoka, I will not discount the value of Jiu Jitsu, but one rule of a street fight is don't get on the ground as its rarely one on one, and we have had Jiu Jitsu practitioners of all levels in the dojo struggle with beginner Judokas in a standup randori as their throws are pretty basic and easy to counter. It has been made popular with MMA back from the Gracie days, but in reality Judo will prepare you much better for a street combat than Jiu Jitsu.
A lot of sports guys could be in for a shock, espiecally the guys that love to play on their back in guard. There are people that are good at "playing the game" but not good in a real fight.
I used to know a few purple belts, the second we stood up i would dominate them as a experienced white belt with a little bit of wrestling knowledge... when engaging on the ground i was pretty screwed, but in a real fight... i'm not going to enter into your guard.
yup, this video is one of the few I have seen where they specifically mention, if you are doing this for a self defence reason, that's how you must train and think, and focus on techniques that won't open you up to attack. People need to stop thinking or referencing Joyce and the early UFC.... dude had been a practitioner for what 20plus years in the first UFC? Or they look at some other videos on youtube, usually of other people who have been training for years rolling up drunk idiots. I have seen many street/bar fights and they all start with pushing/shoving and wild haymakers (and the irony that also happens with trained MMA guys at weigh-ins, it's almost as if outside of control scenarios adrenaline and raw animalistic tendencies take over), and I have seen people go down because they had zero striking/counter-striking ability.
Not BJJ but JJJ yes
Usually the biggest problem I see from people doing jiu jitsu from video's that exist of people fighting online is positioning. There are certain positions that are fairly ok to be in in jiu jitsu that are very bad to be in in a street fight. The worst one is the being underneath in a mount. If your opponents forehead at any point lines up with your face or chin, you have screwed up massively and should probably have trained to apply your arts in a context that was a little closer to what could happen. With that said, there are a lot of untrained people that will not understand to headbutt and that will automatically be turned into a pretzel by any grappler so even sports jiu jitsu is better than no jiu jitsu probably.
BJJ can definitely help you in the real world as long as you’re in a one on one contest with no weapons.
It can if you write it on a stick and then use that stick to defend yourself
It will help if a) you focus specifically on a handful of techniques that won't get you killed in bar on the street or b) you spend the decade plus neceassary to get to really high level where most scenarios will be under your control. Otherwise it's going to give you false confidence.