This is brilliant, totally explains me...would be so grateful if you can please share more on how to heal this, I'm so exhausted, I.see it now and desperately want to be different. Sincere thanks for your excellent work
Wow this was me, I remember in my early days of healing, crying in my emdr therapists office because I was petrified I was a narcissist! I had totally repressed my significance needs, as I believed it was bad or narcissistic to be significant in any way. I am currently working on the core belief of I don’t matter in Emdr which produces a lot of the behaviour you mentioned and I have fear block after block and I am still unable to accept evidence that I matter to people as I dissociate whenever people I am close to show me I’m important to them. It’s tough and I look forward to the day where I can feel like I’m safe to matter , to treat myself like I’m important to myself and take up space in the world.
Never heard of Ecoism before. Isn't this the same as an Empath? I'm an Empath and learning to overcome my sensitivity. My last relationship was with a Narcissist. Thankfully it's over. I never received closure from him.. what else is new? Lol. I believe my mom was a Narcissist. She loved attention and constantly praised herself. I never received positive reinforcement when trying to excel in life! Sad ...only wish I understood this as a young adult...now I'm a Senior and have nothing to be concerned about..all my family has passed on. But even so, it's good to get answers. Thanks much!
I'd go as far to say it is a disorder and not a personality trait. I've got to the point I want to take up as little space in the world that I never go out, too afraid to put myself out there, say anything, feeling paralyzed, and hating my life because of it.
I would definitely fall into this pattern with certain people or situations who trigger it. Especially if I am painted as being a “problem” regarding my health or special needs. Oddly this echoist behavior falls away when I’m not in those co-narcissistic situations! I’m HSP but also pretty extroverted, sociable, sensation seeking and don’t mind attention! I guess I’m a part time or situational echoist. It’s not my real self but more a safety measure! My Narc parents were/are terrifying and I stay far away.
I identify with echoism as my label description if I was to have one so much and emotional deprivation disorder which I think was the root cause to the development of the echoism.
Its strange, one thing I experience for years now on ky triggered/bad days is that when I feel triggered I feel like I want to go to the very corner of the room as I dont feel comfortable taking up space at all.
Thanks, your videos are really insightful and helpful! Can narcissism and echoism co-exist? I can imagine an anxious-avoidant type to be a representation of these concepts coexisting together.
I have found narcs love pushing us into these polarised dynamics and relationships usually so they can feel better about themselves and their fluffed up peacock selves
Hey, do you know that UA-cam doesn’t show you in the results after taping “echoism” in the research ? Like, in the app it doesn’t. I’ve just made a research on google, and then went to “videos” category, and then found you. I mean this is so unhelpful, ignoring the core of my research. The app is really looking to push you in circular thinking, pfff. I’m glad I found you, even if Ytb app is litteraly its job to do it, but glad to learn finally more about echoism. Just so silly they don’t show you.
This is brilliant, totally explains me...would be so grateful if you can please share more on how to heal this, I'm so exhausted, I.see it now and desperately want to be different. Sincere thanks for your excellent work
Wow this was me, I remember in my early days of healing, crying in my emdr therapists office because I was petrified I was a narcissist! I had totally repressed my significance needs, as I believed it was bad or narcissistic to be significant in any way. I am currently working on the core belief of I don’t matter in Emdr which produces a lot of the behaviour you mentioned and I have fear block after block and I am still unable to accept evidence that I matter to people as I dissociate whenever people I am close to show me I’m important to them. It’s tough and I look forward to the day where I can feel like I’m safe to matter , to treat myself like I’m important to myself and take up space in the world.
I’m working on this core belief too and mattering to myself has been the starting point and key building block right now
Never heard of Ecoism before. Isn't this the same as an Empath? I'm an Empath and learning to overcome my sensitivity. My last relationship was with a Narcissist. Thankfully it's over. I never received closure from him..
what else is new? Lol. I believe my mom was a Narcissist. She loved attention and constantly praised herself. I never received positive reinforcement when trying to excel in life!
Sad ...only wish I understood this as a young adult...now I'm a Senior and have nothing to be concerned about..all my family has passed on. But even so, it's good to get answers. Thanks much!
I'd go as far to say it is a disorder and not a personality trait. I've got to the point I want to take up as little space in the world that I never go out, too afraid to put myself out there, say anything, feeling paralyzed, and hating my life because of it.
I never knew there was a word for this! I can definitely relate.
This WAS ME, I wasn't allowed to have an opinion or a voice, Or Rejected.Im on 4yrs no Contact I'm 53 years old
Same here...Sucks doesn't it? I always felt inferior to others.
I would definitely fall into this pattern with certain people or situations who trigger it. Especially if I am painted as being a “problem” regarding my health or special needs. Oddly this echoist behavior falls away when I’m not in those co-narcissistic situations! I’m HSP but also pretty extroverted, sociable, sensation seeking and don’t mind attention! I guess I’m a part time or situational echoist. It’s not my real self but more a safety measure! My Narc parents were/are terrifying and I stay far away.
Great video. Explains so much, easily understood.
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you !
I am HSP and have CPTSD from narc step-father and, now I know, my mother was the echo.
Immensely helpful. this. Is. Me.
So glad it helped!
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@@nclivingstone heal, not fix. #courage
@@CraigMalkin thank you. Do you offer one on ones? I guess I should visit your website
Thank you! Didn't know the word Echoism or its meaning so found this video very informative. Well wishes for you and yours.
I identify with echoism as my label description if I was to have one so much and emotional deprivation disorder which I think was the root cause to the development of the echoism.
Its strange, one thing I experience for years now on ky triggered/bad days is that when I feel triggered I feel like I want to go to the very corner of the room as I dont feel comfortable taking up space at all.
Watching this made me realize how I’m literally crippled bc of how I grew up in the house
Thanks, your videos are really insightful and helpful! Can narcissism and echoism co-exist? I can imagine an anxious-avoidant type to be a representation of these concepts coexisting together.
I feel that people who are not normally complete echoists are almost forced to become so by the domineering controlling behaviour of narcissists.
I have found narcs love pushing us into these polarised dynamics and relationships usually so they can feel better about themselves and their fluffed up peacock selves
How how how to fix this???
Hey, do you know that UA-cam doesn’t show you in the results after taping “echoism” in the research ? Like, in the app it doesn’t. I’ve just made a research on google, and then went to “videos” category, and then found you. I mean this is so unhelpful, ignoring the core of my research. The app is really looking to push you in circular thinking, pfff. I’m glad I found you, even if Ytb app is litteraly its job to do it, but glad to learn finally more about echoism. Just so silly they don’t show you.
Yup. I always put my feelings last or I would be like my N Mom. She always played down my achievements.
wonderful insight but lets remember that e is a foil...god bless from brisbane Q
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