How to Become an Alchemist (Tutorial)
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- Опубліковано 4 чер 2024
- You guys requested it, so here it is: a video teaching you how to become an alchemist! In this video, I use all of my alchemical knowledge to direct you down the path towards becoming an alchemist. I provide the easiest books to read, and the hardest, most rewarding books to read, and the order in which you should read them in order to glean the most knowledge in the easiest way (whether you want to become an alchemist or just want to study it). I also talk about how I got into alchemy, as well as other forms of media to help you along your journey.
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Book List:
1. Alchemy: Science of the Cosmos, Science of the Soul
- Free PDF: www.fatuma.net/text/TitusBurck...
- Amazon: www.amazon.com/Alchemy-Scienc...
2. The Forge and the Crucible
- Amazon: www.amazon.com/Forge-Crucible...
3. Chinese Alchemy
- Amazon: www.amazon.com/Chinese-Alchem...
4. Alchemy: Introduction to the Symbolism and the Psychology
- Free PDF: ndl.ethernet.edu.et/bitstream/...
- Amazon: www.amazon.com/Alchemy-Introd...
5. Psychology and Alchemy
- Amazon: www.amazon.com/Psychology-Alc...
6. Mysterium Coniunctionis
- Amazon: www.amazon.com/Mysterium-Coni...
Extra Skyrim Footage Borrowed From PredCaliber
1. Introduction: 0:00 - 1:42
2. How I Got Into Alchemy: 1:43 - 3:29
3. Alchemy's Links to Psychological Theory: 3:30 - 6:44
4. The Most Common Misconception About Alchemy: 6:45 - 8:03
5. How is Alchemy Useful, if At All: 8:04 - 9:59
6. Books to Read (Easiest): 10:00 - 12:48
7. Books to Read (Hardest): 12:49 - 14:33
8. UA-camrs Who Talk About Alchemy: 14:34 - 14:50
9. Alchemic Media (Games, TV): 14:51 - 15:47
10. Outro: 15:48 - 16:10
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I’m 19 and I’ve been both binge watching and binge reading on philosophy because of you and this channel.I never really wanted to study them cause I thought of them as boring but when you made me realise so much of the games I’ve played are directly inspired by religion,philosophy etc,I got hooked. Now I read not only because I enjoy these concepts,I read because it genuinely makes me happy just to learn about them.Your work on how I now appreciate the studies liberal arts can not be understated.Thank you good sir
You're 10 years ahead of me, damn! Good job :).
You're found an excellent source. Max's videos really ignited a fire in me I didn't really know was there, but always was.
This comment made me smile. No matter what generation, what time it is, some things are just time-proof. Esoteric.
There are some great anime to get into if you’ve been interested in philosophy / psychology. Vinland Saga is one of my favourites 🙏 keep learning and stay curious, both are a forever skill that will be an asset for life.
Read some Bible.
@@hulking_presence Which one? That's actually what inspired me and I'm sure several other people to look back and see how it was constructed and shaped over time. The texts that survive to this day are scant few in comparison to all the other documents that have previously been a part of (and later removed or altered) from most modern bibles.
@@hyperionsama8114Vinland Saga season 1 and 2 is amazing. Season 2 carries the Trigun torch
Esoterica is a great youtube channel that goes into (mostly) pre-Jungian alchemy from a historical and academic context, which I really enjoy. He breaks down a lot of alchemical source material in a way that's much more easy to digest than just reading them, and goes over some things that most people straight up don't have access to. It's pretty neat!
Their videos popped up in my recommended feed about a week ago. I haven't watched much of their stuff yet, but I subscribed because I know I am going to love their videos.
@@maxderrat i watched him from day one and am the proud owner of "Dr Sledge is actually Kenny's dad from South Park" meme
my top recommendation for you as i follow a while as well is his videos on Monas Hieroglyphica
Dee the maniac tried to compress all knowledge into one symbol, its violently interesting.
and then Thunder Perfect Mind which is *chef kiss* omellete du fromage
@@maxderratHe approaches alchemy in a very academic sense which satisfies the skeptical part of my brain. But Jung has a better INTUITIONAL grasp on alchemy. He sees through the zeitgeist of those early alchemists and perceives the collective consciousness within them.
Here are some additional selections, if you are interested: "Fulcanelli: Master Alchemist: Le Mystere des Cathedrales", "Hermetic Recreations", "The Philosopher's Stone: An Essay on the Sacerdotal Science", "Hermes Trismegistus: Natural Path". These deal with the more "literal" creation of the Philosopher's Stone.
Edit: Also, "The Secret Book of Artephius", "Fulcanelli: Dwellings of the Philosophers", "The Book of Aquarius"
Brother, if you have read and fully understood these books like me, you really know how to make the philosopher's stone, don't you?
@@alahmadahmadal3143 I'd say if you take all of these and cross reference them, you get an underlying recipe for it. Hermetic Recreations in particular is the closest to a cookbook style recipe you can get. Pyrite or any Iron sulfur ore in powdered form is the base material.
No brother, no metal is used here, the thing to be used is everywhere but nowhere, everyone looks at it but very few people see it, in short, it is something that is found in unexpected materials, but as far as you know, the person who has the secret should never, ever share it with other people, if this secret was given to you by God, it is a secret that you must protect with honor until death
Here they always talk about 2 materials, one is sulfur and the other is mercury, mercury is mar-kurios, the lord of the waters, and sulfur is sol-pyr, a material represented by the sun, even in the name of the prophet Solomon we see the 2 materials shining clearly, SOL-O-MON, the principle of the sun and the moon
@@alahmadahmadal3143 Cinnabar, like pyrite, is a compound of metal + sulfur, and can be used likewise as the base material, though breathing in mercury fumes is obviously dangerous. In this case, Pyrite would be the sun, and morning dew would be the moon, as it carries its essence from bathing in moonlight and condensing. Also, I never stated the recipe out-right.
A fair warning to anyone willing to embark on this journey - if you take the recommended reading lightly, you'll be "just fine", but if you dive in with the intention of understanding and putting it into practice... it will change your life. Trust me, if you approach with an open mind, Alchemy will wedge it open even further and prevent you from ever fully shutting it again.
I studied Jung and Alchemy back in High School [yeah, I wasn't much fun at parties]. The reading order you listed is exactly how I would have listed them, with one exception. I'd add what I consider the Jungian primer, "Man and His Symbols", between the purely alchemical books and the absolutely existential nightmare that is "Psychology and Alchemy". In the very least, it should be skimmed before starting the Mysterium.
Good call, man. Man and His Symbols isn't strictly alchemy, but it is a nice addendum to help wrap your head around Jung's style of thinking, and help ease you into alchemical thinking.
Elaborate for me please
In essence, delving into alchemy, psychology, and philosophy can be transformative. Approaching with a casual mindset might not have a significant impact, but diving in with intent can be life-changing. Alchemy, especially when studied alongside Jungian psychology, has a way of expanding one's understanding and perception, making it difficult to revert to previous perspectives. "Man and His Symbols" serves as a helpful primer before delving deeper into Jung's works on alchemy, providing context and groundwork for better comprehension.
Instructions unclear. I've lost my arm and leg and my brother no longer has a corporeal form, also don't go in the shed...
Well maybe don't try to perform human transmutation next time, homie.
Skill issue, worked for me just fine
This is such an excellent primer. The way you’ve brought my video game interests and led them to psychology and alchemy has been invaluable. It’s own sort of integration! Always wonderful content, Max.
As a romanian, you have no idea how surprised and happy I was to find out that Eliade studied the subject and that he was mentioned on your list.
It's rather silly but I do find some enjoyment in seeing romanian authors being recognised outside of romania. Thank you for the great video! 😃
E ciudat sa-i aud numele cu accent strain.
@@mihaiioc.3809Sincer, mă bucur că sună și bine. Când aud în videoclipuri cum oamenii pronunță "Vlad Țepeș" fără diacritice am un scurt moment de durere psihică. Parcă îmi dă cu virgulă XD
You're not the first Romanian to say this on behalf of Eliade. I'm happy that I could help in spreading knowledge of your country's national treasure and his work. He is a genius, and outside of Jung, he is largely responsible for my knowledge of world religion.
Eliade is a genius. He is widely known. You can be proud of him.
@@maxderrat he had an interesting life even if it lead him into the arms of the religious fanatics/fascist of the Iron Guard. During the communist era his works were banned and when they were allowed again most of us know him from his novels.
I have always been deeply fascinated by historical alchemy. Both in terms of it as a precursor to chemistry as well as a system of philosophy and analysis. It's an absolute gold mine of historical context and inspiration for fictional stories. In my medieval art history classes, I managed to surprise my professor with some of the analysis I made with the pieces discussed because I pulled from alchemical knowledge, which would have been popular around the time the works were made. The history of alchemy as a science and as an art are incredible, and it IS kinda frustrated when I want to learn more about it, only to find primarily contemporary sources talking in a new age mysticism sense. This channel has been great for finding more historical info on the subject, and I'll absolutely be checking out the books you recommend!
"gold mine"
hehehehe
Yesss! was waiting for this video!!!!
Your channel has introduced the concept of alchemy being more then just a form of chemistry. I have spent years studying symbolism and yet it never made the connection. Sometimes you just has to stumble into someone who is able to point you in the right direction I guess. Thank you for that! Now I have a list of books and other sources to study! I also thank you for showing titles that can set someone up for the more complex stuff. Being one with a form of dyslexia it’s hard to stay focused on complicated texts, but I’m sure interesting enough to try my best!
This video feels like the beginning of a new passion for me.
Thank you Max ♥
I only studied a bit myself back in high school due to my love of Full Metal Alchemist. Seeing your videos brought back that fascination I had and still do. I appreciate how you make sure you always bring up the concepts easy enough to be understood. It's really cool that once you start to know the symbols and concepts, you start to notice how often they're used in media to varying effect.
And while I don't take a lot of what Jung says to heart about psychology, but going through the process of alchemy with one's thoughts and feelings does make a lot of sense when you look at how therapy and other forms of treatment work.
Holy crap, I have legitimately been so excited for this particular release. Watching now!
Hello, I’m a psychology student and I’ve had problems understanding jung books. I would enjoy a lot a continuation of this, to know what you learn from the books you mentioned
Hey! Which books of his have you been reading and what troubles have you had understanding? I could maybe help you onto the right path?
@@maxderrathi, well i read psychology and religion by jung, I expected similar content from the one I got from “the future of an illusion” by Freud, but Jung talks a lot about symbols representing different things in christian religion. And that confused mena little bit, so I would enjoy a lot to see your take on others jung books. I really liked your videos from the Aion series, it’s also kind of scary
@@elpeonbigoton8022As I’ve understood it, Jung’s “Psychology and Religion” shouldn’t be placed first in a Jung related reading order. It’s akin to reading the 10th chapter of a fiction series.
@@maxderrat Is this skyrim or oblivion?
Mod list?
@maxderrat We don't have to stay yellow anymore? 🤔
I'm about a quarter in and quickly skimmed your timeline to see if you mentioned tai chi and internal alchemy at all and didn't see it mentioned specifically.
I believe that Jung was looking at eastern Alchemy from an western alchemist point of view and that his points of Alchemy being about psychology came from Taoist internal alchemical principals.
Most internal alchemy starts with breathing, the reason why is because breathing is the non voluntary behavior that you have the most and most constant control over. This is first path of establishing your mind's grater control over the body but it also empowers the body's ability to provide meaningful information to the mind.
Interestingly, breathing control is a big way one can induce or prevent conditions such as hyperventilation.
Conversely, by having the mind calm the body, a calmer body helps further calm the mind. Done over and over this becomes a virtuous circle of greater and greater ability to exercise self control and to benefit from the control exercised.
From this state of mind body unity, further practices are used to train this type of mind body unity to be more useful or practical in specific situations.
This is where you might find the zen-like meditation of the blade, where the use of a weapon in combat itself become a meditative state. However this is also where you find some incredibly esoteric stuff, such as certain forms of yoga and many taoist practices.
Chi an jing are said to be mixed internally to cast spell and to ward of trouble and disease.
Chi being breath and jing being vital energy.
A modern western mind might think of chi and jing as blood oxygen and blood sugar levels and they would not be too far off base doing so.
According to the taoist internal alchemists, however, these substances were metaphysical and imposed direct influence on your mental as well as physical health.
Their posture and martial arts training often involved trying to even hold their organs in the optimal locations for chi flow. In many ways they were literally trying to put their heart in the right place.
All of these practices were plainly and frequently called alchemy in the east for thousands of years.
Any how. I'm sure I'm not saying anything you don't already know. I just had some thoughts on Jung and Taoism that I felt might be worth your time.
Thanks for another great video! =D
can you provide resources regarding what you said? ive been practicing meditation for a few weeks now, and know basics about hermeticism, taoism, advaita vedanta and such
i found the blood sugar thing u mentioned interesting as i have diabetes type 1.
any reads you would recommend? im trying to find more info on yoga but i cant avoid the pseuo scientific buddhist dogma which veils the truth
Ok dude whatever you say 😂
Can you elaborate? 🤣
@@cynically_insane I'm applying a heavy leavel of personal interpretaion on the whole blood sugar oxygen levels thing. I mean, just think about it. Imagine how you would describe either of those two things if you have never heard of oxygen or insulin? It would probably sound pretty close to eastern gung fu and chi gung energy cultivation laguage that you hear.
A lot of that's all chi gung.
If you want a more western/medical point of view, I'd check out the youtube channel, "Better Body Chemistry." This isn't an endorsement of the channel so much as just a mention of them having covered some ways that oxygen and diabetes interact. Simply put, part of how peopel get insulin resistant is because their body does not burn enough of the sugar that's present. Extra oxygen in the blood has been shown to help ease the symptoms of diabetes becasue it helps burn off soem of the extra sugar that's causing all of the damage.
The breathing stuff mostly comes from stuff I've learned from singing but also from Aikido and Tai chi.
@@beansnrice321Mate I think that this is a bold and brilliant idea, even if some of it is untrue (about the blood glucose comparison.etc), the marrying of the western scientific materialistic perspective and the eastern spiritualist systems will provide the best unification. What do you think to the similarity between tai chi and vedic traditions like yoga which eludes to a similar unification of body then mind then soul? And about tantric energy similar to tai chi.
Thanks for the video and especially the reading list.
This was fantastic! Love the media and book lists! Will def try to read them all! 🎉
Never stop making videos. They've been crucial in my journey of studying alchemy and Jungian theories!!!!
Great video!
im writing a book were one of the main forms of magic is alchemy. i learned a lot from you. ill always be thankful for that 🥰
Excellent video as always Max, as one who is enthralled by both philosophy and spirituality, this video is a treat.
Thank you so much for this content. This is absolutely jaw-dropping an amazing I can’t, thank you enough. I really appreciate it.
I love this I really hope this series continues ❤❤
Thanks a lot! This was really helpful.
Can't wait
Thanks so much for this awesome guide, Max! Your videos (and Fullmetal Alchemist, it being my favorite Anime lol) have made me deeply fascinated with the subject of Alchemy and I can't wait to dive in to learn more about it, and in doing so blowing my mind indeed! :)
You have successfully convinced me to begin educating myself further in this study, Max. Particularly the part about negrido, albedo, and rubedo being used to represent achieving an ideal self. It's something that I'm also striving to accomplish.
Gonna go pick up the first book you suggested next time I'm out at Barnes 'n Noble.
Thanks for the fantastic video! 🙇♂️
Great video, thanks
It has caused me to question my sanity, but I feel like I understand the deeper meaning of the Philospher's Stone and Alchemy as a model for mental health and a Spring of Creativity and Inspiration.
Japanese Media and your videos have greatly helped me in my quest to find True Wealth (personal definition value), Eternal Life (living in the present moment), and Wisdom ( being closer to seeing true, objective reality, by seeing how subjective we normally see things.)
I hope everyone can find these treasures too.
Keep up the phenomenal work Max and my other fellow Alchemist. And remember Robert First, "Nothing Gold can Stay."
I feel the same way brother, once you realize that literally everything worth experiencing actually points you towards The Path, of personal enlightment, you wonder how to share what you've learned and seen; once you brush the edge of Eternity how do you come back? Only to realize it's something each of us must discover themselves in our own time. Until then we can only live as intended and try to help others along The Path they walk, while steadily walking our own. ❤
Well done Max!!!
My origins come more from Daoism and Buddhism, but alchemy has always been something I've been interested in exploring!
In addition to your UA-camr recommendations, I also highly recommend checking out Sarah Elkhardy "The Alchemist" and her content.
She is a practicing esoteric alchemist and agrees that Jung has successfully integrated the fundamentals of alchemy into exoteric mediums.
Thank you so much for your hard work (and re-edits) and dedication to bringing us real and quality content!
Look forward to witnessing your journey brother 💪🏾
Great Video
Awesome video ^^
You're missing Wang Mu's "foundations of internal alchemy" book.
For the animes, try Baccano.
For the games, you might want to try Final Fantasy 8.
I NEED A SERIES ON THIS... Please continue... PLEASE
FINALY A NEW CARL JUNG VIDEO THIS IS A BLESSED DAY!
Every time you release something related with Alchemy & Jung, I usually say "this time he's gonna repeat himself" but you keep proving me wrong by putting different perspective on the matters. Huge respect and thank you for the read list.
Thanks for saying that, dude. I do try to introduce something new with each video I put out, so that way my content doesn't become too stale.
I swear I just found your channel and its already one of my favorites on UA-cam. Your approach to every topic is really unique. Please make a video about NieR RepliCant when you have the spare time!
Yes that is a great idea
Incredible video as always and a list of books to read that will never cease to grow!
Glad you talked about Haunting Ground, great horror game and I had to pause the game when I realised the way to create new items was by a tree of life and just realized how important alchemy was in it
Stay tuned for October regarding Haunting Ground. ;)
@@maxderrat OH YEAH! My birthday month nice gift
I feel like alchemy and its message shapes itself in the light of your mind, becoming utterly personal.
Enternalised also have some great videos on Jung in general.
Anyhow, much appreciated for sharing, Max. Take care
Thanks A LOT. I was reading the first Jung's book about alchemy you mentioned and, even though I could understand it, my brain was on fire all the time and I had to prepare myself mentally for each chapter. I'm going to take a pause on this book and begin the other ones you mentioned before I collapse. If I could make a request, make a video like this about gnosticism. Your work is an inspiration.
Thanks for the plug, my friend. Looking forward to rapping with you today 🙏.
Thanks for doing this video Max! Please I'd be interested to see you delving into the topic deeper.
I think I might do a video in the future on the pursuit of the Philosopher's Stone and its deeper symbolic significance.
@@maxderratthat would be awesome 👍
There lies a paradoxical thought with alchemy (well, several, but here's one I was thinking on today). How can one possibly filter/purify ALL aspects of the unconscious mind to become rubedo, when the unconscious mind contains infinite concepts/aspects? There will always be more that we do NOT know, than we do know. We don't know how much we don't know, therefore the unknowable is potentially infinite, as new concepts spawn from the seat of Chaos constantly. Resolving this paradox of infinite concepts being hosted within a finite being is yet another step on the Path.
Knowledge is not to know anything, but to merely re-arrange the boundaries of one's personal ignorance.
I agree, it does appear unattainable but I still feel like that doesn't make it not useful.
Logic cannot entertain a paradox.
Symbol can.
You need a whole new set of rules to work with symbols. Cue alchemy.
Generally though I think you just rephrased the paradox of perfection. It has an answer though, continual improvement can be called perfection. Oroborous. You don't get to keep the philosopher's stone, it's an ongoing journey.
As far as I studied Jung, you want to study your unconscious because it’s easier solve unconscious problematic behavior when you acknowledge them, which means turning them conscious and treating them. This is also valid for your unconscious potentials and talents.
Also one of the main functions of the ego is deciding what images and memories goes from the unconscious to the conscious, since it’s impossible to deal with all the information we keep in our unconscious. In that way, it’s important to maintain most of our memories and thoughts unconsciously.
@@Pedro-xe7lkIt's like being the archivist of a museum, curating what should be on display.
Pure gold👌
The Rider-Waite Tarot Deck is dense with Alchemical symbolism. I would love to see somebody deep dive into it, as well as the implications it has for Tarot itself. Tarot bombards you with randomized symbolism and asks you "what does this mean to you" through the process of reading. The cards seem to help people find insight about their circumstances in a really fascinating way, I would like to see somebody pull at that thread.
I believe the continuing untapped potential of these two arts is that a symbol cannot be translated or explained in static terms without affecting it, diminishing it, restraining it. Symbols can entertain paradoxes, something completely unheard of in the natural sciences. They have blurry edges and shifting connections and can only ever be inferred. One does not draw a symbol, they draw a depiction of a symbol. The symbol itself is something more abstract, a notion that can only be conveyed well through ubiquity, such as with the Rider-Waite deck.
Jigokuraku: Hell's Paradise isvery alchemical and explores the connections between alchemical and religious concepts as well as the idea of what if those concepts were used and corrupted by bad actors
I have never read any of Jung's works on mysticism but I knew that he had some. I studied Joseph Campbell when I was younger and I know that he was one of Jung's late life students/disciples. Campbell's Mythology Series heavily touches on aspects you talk about in this video, particularly Primitive Mythology and Creative Mythology. I am excited too hear more from you about this subject, your Full Metal vids are what got me to watch this channel. Keep up the great work.
Oh I just love it when a book is out of print and super expensive... I did not run into this problem with occultism, but I did start to notice it with Hermeticism... and then I looked up the first book in the description on Amazon... I much prefer physical media for these studies, for better or worse.
The books I tried to start out with Alchemy were _The Rosary of the Philosophers_ , _Turba Philosophorum_ , _The Archidoxes of Magic_ , and _The Occult Sciences_ ... the first two confused me, so I pivoted over to Hermeticism with _The Way of Hermes_ (based on what I learned from Eternalised's video on Hermeticism).
Some might say "Chaotic, why didn't you just do better research on what to read?" And my response is... a mix of my stubbornness, autism, and impatience. Plus how I was supposed to know 4-5 months ago that Max would be uploading this video today?
Also on an ending note: Max, thank you for doing your videos on FMA:B. That got me into researching Alchemy and Hermeticism.
Love the emphasis on how you frequently reference Reinstall Paul lol.
Thank you.
I want to read all of these titles you've recommended now. I guess I have work to do.
I definitely will like this faster than I even finished watching and listening to it.
Did a quick scan of the comments to make sure no one else had mentioned this, but I think I know what game you should tackle next for analysis: Lies of P. Without spoiling anything yet, alchemy is a major theme, and I'd be very curious to see how you analyze it! Great content as always, friend.
Stay tuned for later this week, my friend. ;)
It's funny. I started studying mysticism a while ago from an interest in the Abrahamic traditions in the Iberian peninsula. After a little digging, you start to notice that, as the Catholic/Muslim/Jewish peoples were intertwined in the Iberian peninsula for centuries, there were somewhat unusual or esoteric practices that don't really mesh with what you'd expect from these religions' usual practices. That really opened up my eyes to the gnostics, then to the alchemists, and then to just how prevalent those ideas and that iconography is in literature, film, and pop culture in general. It's much like seeing a cross on screen for a Christian. After a while, you just start to recognize the symbols and the "tropes", so to speak, in so much of the media you consume and would otherwise never have noticed.
for any one who interest in alchemy just read the arabic scientist (Jabir ibn Hayyan) works , most of western alchemy books quotes from him
most westerners refuse to acknowledge the immense debt they owe to spanish and sicilian muslims for their so called enlightenment. As if it wasnt the translation of the hundreds of thousands of works stored in the libraries of sevilla cordoba and palermo into latin 😉
It isn't highly rated but I did personally enjoy it quite a bit, it's a movie called "As Above, So Below"
It does it in a dramatic fashion, but it talks about attaining the philosopher's stone, both physically and spiritually/mentally
Was that the one where they went into the catacombs in France? If so, highly recommend it. Great movie.
Golden Sun is a series of games that has heavy references to Alchemy. Their system of magic is called Alchemy and the puzzles often use symbols. If you haven't I highly suggest playing it if you can get your hands on it.
I've had a couple of people recommend that to me. It's on my list of games to get to.
Brilliant work max as always you make things so easy to understand and organize them in a concise and flowing manner
Great work! What software are you using to read the books in the video?
Great vídeo! I'm very excited to learn about the books you recommended! Althought I have a question, do you think that the caibalion is a great book to tie everything in the alchemy symboligy? Any insights on the book?
After finishing the video, I have got a few questions. Perhaps I have misinterpreted things, so I will begin by explaining what I think I understand before asking any questions.
In a nutshell, alchemy, in the objective or practical sense, does not really have much value. There is no expectation that anyone can make an actual philosopher stone, for example. Instead, alchemy is useful because it is adjacent to abstract ideas in the real world (specifically psychology). For these means, its used symbolically. As an example, if I see Jung say "the philosopher stone", then I understand he is actually referencing the highest level of the individual, or is at least comparing the highest level of the individual to the philosopher stone. This poses a question, however. Is alchemy used to make up abstract ideas or to explain abstract ideas? In other words, is psychology based on alchemy, or is alchemy just used to explain psychological ideas? If it is the former, what objective truth in alchemy is there? Am I to assume that abstract ideas in psychology, which are to be taken seriously and objectively, are based on a non-objective defunct science?
Its hard for me to communicate this, I apologize if I am being confusing.
Also, consider checking out book of hours or cultist simulator lol. :p
Great question! So psychology is NOT based on alchemy. Jung formulated his psychological theory and then used religious imagery (all different types but especially alchemical imagery) to justify his theories after the fact (i.e. he came up with the idea of making the unconscious conscious, and then found religious imagery that SUPPOSEDLY represents this underlying reality, like with the 3-step process).
Alchemical imagery, according to Jung, can be used (and in his mind WAS used) to represent underlying psychological realities and ideas (i.e. the prima materia representing the unconscious mind). This is because he believed they were trying to get more attuned with their psyches than other spiritual traditions (with the possible exception of the Christian Gnostics and maybe the Kabbalists, according to him).
Now as for whether there is objective truth to alchemy (and by objective truth I assume you mean objective, material reality) then almost certainly no. Granted, you can transmute lesser metals into gold using a particle accelerator, but doing that would be very expensive and I don't think would parallel an inner spiritual journey.
That said, I believe that Jung's theories are compelling enough that they shouldn't be dismissed. There are patterns between his theories regarding the operations of the unconscious mind and how those patterns show up in religious imagery. Granted, just because there's a pattern, that doesn't mean there's something there, and I always keep that in mind when I read him. However, for myself, I do find that alchemical philosophy has enhanced my life in a couple of ways if I use a Jungian perspective.
So for example... one of the most famous alchemical mottos is "In Sterquilniis Invenitur". Translated from Latin, it means "in filth it will be found." What that motto essentially means is "that which you most require will be found in the place you least want to look". Psychologically speaking, that's a contention with the darkest parts of yourself so that those parts don't control you, but you control them. It's a form of positive personal development. That's the obtaining of nigredo so you can perform albedo.
That's just a personal thing, though... and I am always open to having people challenge that perspective. As Marie-Louise von Franz says in her book, to be an alchemist requires a "Weltanschaung" (ethic of living) of constant openness to ideas that challenge your own.
Hopefully that clears things up. If not, let me know.
Alchemy it seems means whatever the hell you want it to mean.
For manga, I recommend soul hunter/ houshin engi. But the catch is that its heavy chinese mythology based and I can recall a very spoiler, near the end of the story, about the union of opposites and the integration of the Shadow.
To bad that both anime, barely dive into the story, first one drops it and as they animated before the plot was fully unfold. The second one, well... its for fan boys and gals as it jumps in time, cutting corners and the very things I point out are not conveyed. So, if you ate curious and have the time, go for it.
thanks Yellow man
Hi Max, loved the video and hope you’re doing well. I’m just wondering: would you say studying alchemy has enriched your life?
I’m just asking because personally, I’m very interested in alchemy and symbolism because it tickles my intellectual brain and it sounds and looks cool. But even when I watch alchemy videos and think about it, I’m not sure I would be able to derive practical value out of it besides being aware of and assigning a complex system to psychological processes that happen naturally. That being said, I’m not sure how much value there is to the study of alchemy besides pure intellectual entertainment.
I’m just a newbie when it comes to the study of alchemy, so it might be the case that I just haven’t looked deep enough to find the answers, but I am very curious to hear your opinion on this. Is alchemy just an intellectual distraction for you? Or do you think it enriches your life, your relationships, and give you a sense of direction on how to act upon the world.
Have you seen the series "Devs"? The amount of alchemical themes is overwhelming
Hello Max, one of the most important scriptures within Alchemy is the hermeticist text "Emerald Tablet" as you know (I'm assuming). Regardless there's an album called "A Tabua De Esmeralda" which is a Brazillian album about the scripture (as is indicated by the name). I myself can not speak the language used in the album so I used online translations to understand the lyrics. I would recommend you do to. Also the movie "The Holy Mountain" is a very powerful film and surrounds alchemy (to a great extent). Great video as always.
I'll have to rewatch this in a better state of mind than tired heheh. Nevertheless what I could pick up in this state I was impressed by. Excited to see more in due time. Hopefully I can find the listed reading material for relatively cheap, or perhaps some downloadable links somewhere.
I must also highly recommend Anna: Steam Edition for alchemy goodies. It's also just a beautiful game, with an awesomely crafted mystery. Deracíne by Fromsoft may also have some references here and there, but I'm not too sure. I'll recommend it anyway. Toodles and blessed be.
11:11 yey! The author who i had to study in romanian literature class!
A media recommendation I'd give is, if you're interested in an alchemy themed music album by the composer of the soundtracks of many of Satoshi Kon's movies, Susumu Hirasawa's "Philosopher's Propeller", or Kenja no Puropera. Hirasawa was heavily influenced by Jung's theories thanks to a jungian psychologist that worked as his counselor during a time he was in a troubled mental state. He has many songs that reference jungian concepts, but on the "Philosopher's Propeller" he based his album almost entirely on them, as well as associating them to a whole other alchemical tradition, which is Burmese Alchemy. While european alchemists would project their own christian values into their work, burmese alchemists projected buddhist ideas. Since Hirasawa's work is already very influenced by buddhism, all those themes connected perfectly in the Philosopher's Propeller
I take issue only with the framing here, and I think Jung would as well. It's not that Alchemy turns out to actually be about psychology - alchemy was always an extension of astrology, neo-platonic mysticism and ritual magic. Alchemy and astrology were both forms of seeing the metaphysical patterns as they become manifest in nature. It's not that alchemy is actually psychology; it's that psychology is actually alchemy.
I say that Jung would agree with me bc I think it is very evident that as Jung's career progressed, he increasingly came to see that the archetypal dynamics which he identified within the human psyche were not simply projections of the human mind, but rather were present in the human mind due to being constitutive of the structures underlying reality itself.
Alchemy was also an experimental and theoretical endeavor, meaning that the alchemists were not always correct in how they expected the archetypal to manifest within the material realm. Nonetheless, such manifestation is very much a real phenomena - which is evident if we look at the correlations which connect planetary archetypes with material substances such as tin, lead, copper, quicksilver, gold, etc...
This indicates that there are yet more alchemical secrets to be discovered with regards to the physical makeup of the world - secrets which will remain hidden to us insofar as we continue to repeat the 19th century dogma that alchemy was "discredited" by modern chemistry.
I see what you're saying, and I have some sympathy for/agreement with it. The problem is... with the way that I approach this type of content (and how it intertwines with my personal beliefs), I try to be careful not to fully endorse mysticism and the world of the subjective, because of the heavy-handed criticism that would bring and also because it rubs up against my own agnosticism. Maybe my mind will be changed and maybe the things Jung is talking about will reveal themselves where I convert from a researcher to a believer.
@@maxderrat Very understandable. I'll spare you a full-blown lecture, but to put it very briefly - I think that the sharp demarcation which we draw between the subjective and the objective is itself an artificial barrier which has come to out-stay its usefulness in our understanding of the world.
You may want to check out some of the last handful of videos on my own channel. I touch upon Jung and Alchemy a bit, but my primary focus has been teasing out the history of the bifurcations between mind/matter, subjective/objective, animacy/inanimacy, etc, and the implications of those origins.
Correlation does not infer causation. That's the great mistake of astrology, we thought the stars governed us when really we used the stars as a map of the human experience... but only our unconscious minds remembered. The conscious mind notices and thinks it's an external actor but we just fooled ourselves.
I love Alchemy, thank you for inspiring me to look up more
Im happy to see you doing a video i requested thank you 😊 and I think Sir Isaac Newton was an alchemist as well. Yes i will stay citrinitas as always yellow is a wonderful color an energy an i like the Simpsons as well 😊
Hi Max i hope you are doing well, I have been playing lies of p and there is a group of alchemists who are one of the main antagonists and only because of watch some of your videos did I recognise some symbols and plenty more which I have no knowledge of and I was wondering if perhaps you might play it and give your thoughts on the topic of puppet/robots coming to life or rather when is something alive and not just a thing. There are a lot of texts in the game for you to read as well as a bunch of riddles and I just thought you might like it, it is on games pass so it won't cost you much to try it out. Anyway would like to know if anyone else has mentioned this and if you have given any thought to playing it. I hope you have a great day mate👍
you know, I also had a similar beginning in alchemy. When i was 17 I presented a monography looking connections between the symbolical images in silent hill and irl religions, besides the psycological subtheme. However, i started reading jung back when I was 21 and I went down the rabbithole, starting with Jung's "Man and His Symbols", then getting into tarot and astrology real hard. it has helped me a lot ever since.
This video explains it so well! I really really like your content.
Loving all your recomendations, will check out most of them to further solidify concepts i learned! I recommend after all of this to read the "Corpus Hermeticum" to anyone when advanced, since after learning all the knowledge behind the symbols this book feels like being in another era being revealed the secrets of the cosmos that not only still rule, but that also mutate and grow accordingly.
Cheers from a fellow autistic alchemist!
i love how contemporary alchemy aims to unify all religions and their symbols in order to give proof that it's not the blind devotion that works; it's the day to day work and belief in wanting to know better the inner shadow, and how to use the preffered code to decipher the inner self in a manner that allows the self to express itself with conviction, knowing their will is sacred if it's alligned with the cosmic love
final ps: i srsly love how you "protect the secret" in the end, since the alchemical experience is totally subjective, altho it connects to an objective reality? still figuring that out, since feeling and understanding the cosmos within and outbounds is quite chaotic lol
max, thank you for sharing so much knowledge on the occult, i learned so much from you and paul, who i discovered because of you
The ultimate goal for all alchemist is Skooma.
True.
Hey Max, I wonder… is this because of the Tool deep dives? Or have other things influenced your decision to get into Alchemy? The Tool fan in me wants to believe that it was pushed by your research in to them, and in particular, Danny Carey’s relationship with Sacred Geometry.
I’d be really really interested to see you cover Sacred Geometry! Glad to see you’re doing well man! Hope to talk again when I randomly stream old videogames on your discord again!
Love you man, I mean it. ❤
You could have used that clip from the Venture Bros explaining the Philosopher stone is more like a metaphor than something actually tangible
I notice you seem to have a great interest in the Elder Scrolls series (based on clips you use, and also a mention in your earlier Fallout videos).
Have you ever considered any videos covering the Alchemical and gnostic elements of the cosmology in this series? The Original Spirits laid out in the Monomyth creation stories in particular seem to owe a lot to Gnosticism in particular, and I know I’d be really interested to get your take on other aspects of the series with occult or alchemical inspirations.
I'm actually quite the alchemist myself, you see. The other day I mixed milk powder with carbonated mineral water. The reactions due to the acid within the water essentially created a potion of spoiled milk. Now, I might be the shittiest alchemist around but I am one nonetheless!
Nice potion xD try mixing grenadine with vodka for an amnesia potion owo
The max derrat channel has officially jumped the shark
I already have an overwhelming list of books on audible i want to listen to, I guess throwing a handful of alchemy books on the pile won't hurt.
Based on what you said here, the philosophers stone is basically meditation.
Nigredo > Albedo > Rubedo is basically just clearing your mind, meditating (acknowledging thoughts and feelings and letting them pass) then learning and growing from it.
There are many parallels to eastern mysticism
amazing video and very inspiring, too bad i can't find like half of the books you suggested in my language 💔 i'll try to read em in english, thanks for providing some pdf!
"Secret Of Evermore" on the SNES used Alchemy as the magic system.
Fifth element, I think that movie first sparked my interest in the esoteric, it also a banger of a movie
You should check out "the origin of the animal-symbols in ancient mythologies and sculptures" by marius schneider, if you can find it in english. Analyzes all of these connections through music.
Will you make a video about Lies of P? Because i think you should, the game is great
Can you please recommend more books, series, games and anime’s/mangas for every topic in your videos. I think it’s easier to start in a komplex topic with games and series than read books like Carl Jung. Thanks for your videos
I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, but it's funny 😂
Thanks bro, with my new philosopher's stone and imnortality I can finally finish my entire Steam library
Also for Jungian alchemy, check out the book- Anatomy of the Psyche by Edinger and Transformation of the Psyche by Joseph L. Henderson
Trying to find a copy of Titus Burckhardt's Alchemy book in Ireland for a reasonable price... Impossible! I'll keep searching.. Great video Max!!
Just use the PDF linked in the description if you can't find one, dude. Best of luck though if you're set on a hard copy!
Maybe I am late , or just didn't notice. But there is very heavy alchemical messages in Alejandro Jadorawsky's Holy Mountain. Its Tarot and Alchemy heavy movie. I was quite surprised not to see a mention of it in this video since Alejandro Jadorawsky produces alot of Alchemy based media like alot of his comic books like the Meta Barons.
Ever since I started studying Jung, I continuously run into his name/ideas. Also, I keep running into alchemy. Synchronicity maybe? Haha. I plan on doing a deep dive into Jungian alchemy here soon. I have a handful of his books and his followers like Marie Louise Von Franz.
Thank you Max for another awesome video.
Although it may not touch exactly the same subjects you covered in this video, I would recommend to watch the podcasts Aubrey Marcus did with Robert E. Grant and Robert Gilbert are fun to watch/listen to and their perspectives on alchemy and other subjects are interesting.
For those interested in Jungian archetypes, Jillz Guerin made 2 amazing videos on male and female archetypes.
Also does anyone have any comic book recommendations about alchemy (other than the Full metal Alchemist manga)?
Max, PLEASE do a video breakong down the symbolism and meanings in Lies of P.
Alchemy, Hermeticism, Gnosticism, Freemasonry... its all there.
Awesome video 🎉 I am ordering some books this weekend ❤ Thank you!
Ah Yes! New additions to my collection (books)
Would it be odd to recommend a video analyzing the new video game “Lies of P”? I’ve been watching your channel for a while now and I think there are a lot of interesting concepts and enough symbolism in the game to warrant some good discussion. What would ol you think?
I'd add Julius Evola's The Hermetic Tradition: Symbols and Teachings of the Royal Art and his trilogy on magic. But we warned - his political and spiritual thoughts are so far from what's acceptable in mainstream discourse that you may have difficulty even placing him in a wider context, but his understanding of alchemy and related topics is top-notch.