Why The Flash Is The True Victim Of Bad Writing

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  • Опубліковано 12 тра 2024
  • I think we can all agree that the flash has some of the most amazing powers in all of DC. Super speed and everything The Flash can do with it, is awesome! But when you give someone extremely special powers and special abilities you do run into some issues when story telling. So that's Why The Flash Is The True Victim Of Bad Writing...or at least The Flash is truely only as strong as the writers need him to be. With that said if you enjoy this flash breakdown or flash rant make sure to leave a like, sub and comment below if you want to see more videos like this one!
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  • @deandredukes95
    @deandredukes95 24 дні тому +364

    If your superpower is speed, the plot is your biggest enemy

    • @all9472
      @all9472 20 днів тому +4

      Fire too because the ratings in naruto fire never worked because the rating of the show also any type of blades or mind control

    • @whaleping
      @whaleping 19 днів тому +7

      If you’re Dr. Eggman Robotnik, whose purpose is to control the plot, the plot being the enemy isn’t so bad to the MC.

    • @user-eg7gs7ro7w
      @user-eg7gs7ro7w 7 днів тому +2

      That is more true, than the sky is blue.

    • @Kalossupremacy3356
      @Kalossupremacy3356 2 дні тому +1

      I still keep thinking about how someone pointed out him running around the planet to him is just walking around it, like imagine the agony.

  • @ThelastShepherd.
    @ThelastShepherd. 19 днів тому +148

    Realistically, the Flash is so busted that there really is no contingency plan that would work on him.

    • @TheYodelingViking
      @TheYodelingViking 18 днів тому +33

      Yeah. Superman could easily wipe out the human race, but so could Flash. And where Superman could do it in seconds Flash could do it in a literal instant or even yesterday. Like today never existed.

    • @jugogotbeats
      @jugogotbeats День тому +1

      yeah hes too unpredictable

  • @Uprssdthwrgbttn
    @Uprssdthwrgbttn 21 день тому +226

    Getting shot is by far the dumbest thing I ever saw, but then the injustice movie happened.

    • @ZoxOladipo
      @ZoxOladipo 20 днів тому +16

      MY GOD SOMEONE SAID IT

    • @raihan6908
      @raihan6908 17 днів тому +8

      Also one of the biggest examples of blatantly ignoring the source material

    • @jamesgraydon556
      @jamesgraydon556 17 днів тому +4

      If he can’t see the bullet then how would he know he is being shot at?

    • @Uprssdthwrgbttn
      @Uprssdthwrgbttn 16 днів тому +7

      @@jamesgraydon556 it was established way back during Mark Waid's Born To Run Era that the speed force makes him so aware he couldn't even get blown up in his sleep without knowing.

    • @jamesgraydon556
      @jamesgraydon556 16 днів тому

      @@Uprssdthwrgbttn damn I got need checked. Aight dude you got it

  • @IsaiahWayne2104
    @IsaiahWayne2104 24 дні тому +199

    Fun fact: In a comic, it is revealed that the Joker is afraid of the Flash. Due to Flash's super speed and that Flash can easily throw the Joker in jail.

    • @ccelite3782
      @ccelite3782 24 дні тому +35

      Plus he's extremely smart, so he'd know what Joker was planning before Joker even knows it.
      With that being said, Joker solos CW Flash 🙏

    • @trevorhoffler-xu5bq
      @trevorhoffler-xu5bq 20 днів тому +1

      Just read that issue the other day..

    • @all9472
      @all9472 20 днів тому

      That's not canon

    • @all9472
      @all9472 20 днів тому +1

      ​@@ccelite3782joker really smart roo but flash too fast so doesn't matter but joker a expert at chemistry with multiple types if laughing gas that would be a neat story a cat and mouse game joker hiding while attacking and flash trying to one shot him both using strategy

    • @trevorhoffler-xu5bq
      @trevorhoffler-xu5bq 20 днів тому +4

      @@all9472 it was in The Flash annual so yea...it is

  • @wafflebroz
    @wafflebroz 17 днів тому +27

    Flash was successfully shot once in the comics that was very bad.
    “Tower of Babel” where it was a specially made bullet, designed by Batman, to hit him as he tried to vibrate.
    Plot for sure, but an example
    JLU Flash was stated by Green Lantern in “The Great Brain Robbery” that Flash doesn’t do certain things because he knows they are dangerous

    • @baligong3592
      @baligong3592 15 днів тому +2

      To know that that bullet would've been for nothing if he just took 1 step to any direction. Let alone to Wally, of all Flashes, the guy who is more used to dodging than phasing.

  • @comicfan1324
    @comicfan1324 24 дні тому +47

    Flash getting shot with a bullet is kind of dumb at first glance, but for what it’s worth it’s well established that the flash is really rusty and out of shape when that happened so I suppose we can give them a slight pass there
    But overall, I agree that flash suffers a lot from plot convenience. One moment he will be an Unkillable opponent, and then the next minute they treated like he’s just a guy who’s kind of fast.

    • @MTT563
      @MTT563 18 днів тому +2

      It’s well established that he’s been out of it, yeah, but not really that he’s rusty. It’s a fine assumption for the player to make, and to assume that Deadshot would have made the same assumption too, but you know what else would have worked to make it more clear?
      Deadshot: “Alright, this should get your attention.”
      Shoots, Flash gets hit
      Deadshot: “Really? You couldn’t dodge THAT?”
      Flash: “You’re not exactly topping my list of concerns right now”, or something similar
      Because without that, even with Flash being rusty, it reads as Deadshot successfully shooting him and knowing it would work. And like, good for him, but unless this version of Flash just cannot dodge bullets, Deadshot of all people should know better than to even try

  • @Lordmewtwo151
    @Lordmewtwo151 19 днів тому +26

    I didn't watch the video yet, but going in, I don't think this is a Flash-specific problem, but a speedster problem in general. Flash just suffers the worst of it because he's one of the most powerful.

    • @baligong3592
      @baligong3592 15 днів тому +2

      It's not a Speedster specific problem, it's just a DC/MARVEL superhero related Problem.
      You can have Speedsters without having them being faster than Light, let alone Lightning. Dash, from the Incredibles, is a known and recognisable speedster that people loved... His top speed is 190MPH.
      Most of the Superheroes in the Justice League can LITERALLY stop anyone dead set on their track EASILY. Hell, this is the same with Superman and Green Lantern.
      - Superman can combine his powers, alongside have Light Speed+. Why can't Superman quickly blast out of the area with Kryptonite, combine his X-Ray and Heat Vision to destroy the Kryptonite, and come back to beat the criminals?
      - Why can't Green Lantern just Will Criminals of Coast City into Submission and Compliance? The only ones who seem to challenge this guy is other Lanterns.

    • @Lordmewtwo151
      @Lordmewtwo151 15 днів тому +1

      @@baligong3592 I guess all of that makes sense, but there are a few points I want to address:
      Re. Light vs Lightning: This one is admittedly pedantic, but light is the faster of the two.
      Re. Superman: He is already affected by the radiation. Although, if he sees a criminal begin drawing kryptonite, he should be able to fly away before the radiation (which I think is safe to assume is lightspeed unless canonically stated otherwise) reaches him. Also, why would he need the X-ray vision?
      Re. Speed of speedsters: Dash is a bit of an exception. To my knowledge, the rule for speedsters in fiction, even the slow ones, is at bare minimum if not hypersonic, then the high end of supersonic.

    • @baligong3592
      @baligong3592 15 днів тому +1

      @@Lordmewtwo151
      1. Perhaps I misworded, if so, forgive me, but I know Lightning is slower than Light, but if the Flash is faster than lightning, you already made him broken beyond belief.
      2. True, he is affected by the radiation kryptonite gives, shouldn't he sense Kryptonite before even arriving?
      "Why would he need X-Ray?" Because his X-Ray won't work with lead and Kryptonite doesn't radiate through it, so if he notices lead casing, he should know immediately.
      Also, Superman vs The Elite (which is based on a Comic) shows Superman combining X-Ray and Heat Vision to surgically fry a piece of Manchester Black's brain.
      - What's stopping him from staying a mile above the sky and heating the lead in their hand to drop it, and Transport them to prison like people say with The Flash?
      3. There are no rules, except for: "if their main gimmick is Speed, they're a Speedster". Dash isn't any exception.
      Supersonic speed is just another way of saying Sonic speed, which is anything at or above 767MPH. Hypersonic is just Mach 5 or above.
      Speedsters main issue will forever be everyone wanting to make them faster than Light or even Time itself. Example:
      - imagine if Season 1 of The Flash just introduced him and his fastest feat is just 500MPH? He can still cross the city very quick, and can still do so much, but "Guys with Guns" are still dangerous.

    • @Lordmewtwo151
      @Lordmewtwo151 14 днів тому +1

      @@baligong3592 Apparently lead blocks all of Superman's super senses somehow. X-ray vision makes sense for obvious reasons, but he could apparently smell brownies from out of space or hear Jimmy's watch ring all the way from Krypton (and even granting sound could travel through the vacuum of space in the DC universe, it still should have taken millions of years to reach him based on the speed of sound and his distance) but he can't hear through lead which actually makes sound travel better? And yes, I'm fully aware that that second example was Pre-Crisis, but last I heard, DC did some convergence thing that allows him the capability of performing Pre-Crisis feats.
      Regarding your third point: "There are no rules, except for: "If their main gimmick is Speed, they're a Speedster." I understand that, but your sentence about the main issue with Speedsters is precisely why I listed Dash as an exception.

    • @baligong3592
      @baligong3592 14 днів тому +1

      @@Lordmewtwo151
      I think it's stupid that they made it be that lead blocks all of Superman's Powers, I guess it's fine but at the same time, I have no idea why for the change.
      Also, yea, the rules of how Sound works in DC is weird, but sometimes I just chuck it to "I guess Superman has some powers to work like a Satellite". Same guy can hear someone shout from across the world, when sound would take 3 days to circle it once.
      Oh! I understand now, you mean how everyone wants to make a Speedster faster than light, but Dash is an Exception, because he actually is purposely slower than everyone else. Forgive me on that!

  • @comicfan1324
    @comicfan1324 24 дні тому +62

    Not to burst your bubble about writing scripts at superspeed, but from your perspective, you would still be writing the script at a normal amount of time. The only difference is when you look at the clock far less time would’ve passed. (also for this to work you have to be writing with normal pen and paper as the computer probably wouldn’t be able to keep up with your typing)
    So super Speed would be great for time management, but it’s not like you would see your hand suddenly blurring and a script is written. From your perspective, you still have to write everything down.

    • @ComicCasualVideos
      @ComicCasualVideos  24 дні тому +26

      Dude I've heard this before...that is hella sad but at least I got more time In the day hahahaha

    • @ajjtheamazing5615
      @ajjtheamazing5615 19 днів тому +3

      Not necessarily, since u could move ur hand at the same rate of ur thought

    • @wanderingsystem9674
      @wanderingsystem9674 19 днів тому +6

      Superspeed is not necessarily tied to your perception speed. I feel like most writers do that because it is an easy out from the question of “how is this character even able to do those things voluntarily if human reaction is so slow?”
      For a good example, godspeed Kilua from HxH is an ability that bypasses his reaction time by sending electrical pulses to his body before his own brain can react, giving him the power of speed blitzing his opponents even if his mind remains the same. You could theoretically use that to “pre-program” the english lexion in your hand so when you have a script in mind your body is already midway through writing it as fast as your body can handle.

    • @stachpema452
      @stachpema452 17 днів тому +2

      That is zoom power. Flash still is super fast

    • @vullord666
      @vullord666 17 днів тому +3

      Well normal pen and paper wouldn't help either. You'd either tear through the paper or start a fire with the friction. You'd need very specialized material.

  • @Velocity_YT
    @Velocity_YT 23 дні тому +34

    This is actually true on so many levels it hurts.

  • @IsaiahWayne2104
    @IsaiahWayne2104 24 дні тому +61

    If Flash was a better written character, then he'd be in the top 5 most famous Superheroes in DC.

    • @Pluutowrldd
      @Pluutowrldd 19 днів тому +20

      He’s already in that top 5

    • @BrokenSIMGlasses
      @BrokenSIMGlasses 18 днів тому +4

      1/2. Superman or Batman
      3. Wonder Woman
      4. The Flash
      5. Green Lantern or Aquaman
      I think this is the order

    • @kadegetslaid634
      @kadegetslaid634 18 днів тому +3

      He is

    • @joeda900
      @joeda900 15 днів тому +3

      He's already in their top famous superheroes

    • @Faster_than_light_x
      @Faster_than_light_x 14 днів тому +2

      Flash is defintely a better written character you just never read any Flash comics

  • @EdgyTheHedgy891
    @EdgyTheHedgy891 20 днів тому +19

    There is actually a way to solve this
    And Sonic (game Sonic to be precise) is the perfect example of this
    Seriously
    Sonic games acknowledge just how op speedsters are
    So instead of fighting regular enemies Sonic fights entire armys, robots, realitywarpers, gods and ancient giant mechs designed to fight gods, as well as other speedsters with additional powers that Sonic does not have

    • @DrewBoivie
      @DrewBoivie День тому +3

      This is generally a good solution for anything animated, but it doesn't really work for live action. CW Flash and Smallville both utilize crappy plot elements (Flash being dumb, Kryptonite in every episode) because OP opponents are expensive and the fights they would have with the protagonist are really expensive.

    • @EdgyTheHedgy891
      @EdgyTheHedgy891 День тому +1

      @@DrewBoivie yeah fair point

  • @indrainspace2601
    @indrainspace2601 20 днів тому +12

    So one thing about the superman pill that is explained in the comics. Yes it does give you a degree of superspeed, it is said to allow a person to keep up with superman himself who in the injustice comics is able to keep up with the flash. So if deadshot was using that pill he actually would be able to keep up with the flash, the pill doesn't just give a strength boost.

    • @sandwichqueen
      @sandwichqueen 19 днів тому

      It's basically an excuse to put everyone on the same playing ground. Except plastic man, because he's plastic man.

    • @pasaikoujarju7396
      @pasaikoujarju7396 16 днів тому +1

      But the flash is way faster than superman, so that still wouldnt help deathstroke

    • @indrainspace2601
      @indrainspace2601 16 днів тому +4

      @@pasaikoujarju7396 normally yes but in the injustice continuity specifically they're around the same speed.

  • @Reseptics
    @Reseptics 23 дні тому +29

    the biggest problem with super speed in most stories and how the majority of writers present their overpowered speedsters is that they can't commit to what they actually want to do with them. if you write your speedster to have god like power then they should be treated like they have god like power. if you write them to just be a guy who runs kind of fast and not much else then you can get away with them losing to lesser threats. but it's completely inexcusable to have what is arguably one of the most overpowered characters in your verse constantly look like a clown whenever a D list super villain that he should've stopped in a nano second manages to even land a hit on him. much less kill/cripple him in any capacity. dc writers actually cannot be real people because it genuinely is not that difficult to remain consistent with super speed if you possess a somewhat functional brain.

    • @MaverickChristian
      @MaverickChristian 15 днів тому +2

      That was the main reason I stopped watching the CW Flash. There were _way_ too many instances where the Flash could solve a problem by remembering his powers.

    • @Reseptics
      @Reseptics 15 днів тому +2

      @@MaverickChristian exactly my point. madvocate highlights that exact point in his videos about the flash and why the show is objectively poorly written when it comes to it's action/fight scenes.

    • @MaverickChristian
      @MaverickChristian 14 днів тому +1

      @@Reseptics
      Ha! I remember his videos. "The Dumbest Man Alive" for his season 1 commentary really captured my thoughts about it as well.

    • @eduardopantoja9115
      @eduardopantoja9115 13 днів тому +1

      ​@MaverickChristian true like letting a guy who was riding on a motorcycle get away because in the Flash mind, it was too late.
      That was the dumbest and funniest thing I have ever heard. The flash could casually remove people out of moving viechles but a guy on a motorcycle is too much for the flash.

  • @s4mur4rtist21
    @s4mur4rtist21 17 днів тому +6

    an issue with even injuring flash to nerf him doesnt even work cos the flash also has insane super healing

  • @DaddySmaan
    @DaddySmaan 11 годин тому +1

    Largely agree with your points. Just one thing though is that bullets travel faster than the speed of sound so he wouldn't hear them in time, and I actually think this would be a great point to use to nerf his character in stories.
    He would have to see them coming, but if he gets shot from behind, he would have to react in super speed when he feels the bullet hit his back, maybe the bullet pierces a few millimetres before he realises at which point he can try to grab it.

  • @RRai2000
    @RRai2000 23 дні тому +3

    This video sound's very positive compared to other UA-camrs who rant 24/7

  • @cherries7734
    @cherries7734 22 дні тому +12

    CW’s Flash made me love the flash ngl (seasons 1-3) and then i kept watching 4 and beyond and i was like how tf u have super speed and ur losing to people WITHOUT it ????? thawne zoloman savitar all faster then barry makes sense he’d lose. captain cold? okay kinda a little his gun cancels out friction. killer frost? his friend makes sense…
    BUT HOW THE FUCK ARE U LOSING TO A GENERIC ASS ROBBER HOW U LOSING TO CAPTAIN BOOMERANG THAT SHOULD BE A CRIME LIKE DEADASS HOW ARE U LOSING ????? HE HAS A FUCKING BOOMERANG WTF HE DOESNT EVEN HAVE A GUN UR ASS CAN THROW LIGHTNING AND UR LOSING TO A DUDE WITHA BOOMERANG LIKE CMON BRO
    NOT EVEN BOOMERAANG SOMETIMES HE BE LOSING TO SOME GENERIC ASS ROBBER OR SOME PERSON WITHOUT SUPER SPEED GETS THE DROP ON HIM LIKE THERES ACTUALLY NO WAY OR IN S3 WHEN KILLER FROST ESCAPES AND OUTRUNS BARRY WITH A NOT EVEN 5 SECOND HEAD START AND SHE IS ALREADY GONE AND BARRY IS LIKE "shes gone" LIKE BRO WHERE DID U LOOK THE FLOOR???
    okay rant over thank you

  • @fefik-fx7sx
    @fefik-fx7sx 24 дні тому +11

    bullet flyes faster than sound in most of the time - he couldnt hear it

    • @jeremyjacob9509
      @jeremyjacob9509 24 дні тому

      Ever heard of a sonic boom?

    • @Velocity_YT
      @Velocity_YT 23 дні тому +2

      That being said, why didn't he just outrun the bullet? You mean to tell me he's slower than a bullet here?

    • @Reseptics
      @Reseptics 23 дні тому +2

      still doesn't explain why he wasn't simply moving too fast for the bullet to even get close to him in the first place. holy shit even suicide squad got this right (in it's cutscene) before it directly contradicted itself with it's dog shit gameplay.

    • @Velocity_YT
      @Velocity_YT 23 дні тому +1

      @@Reseptics true. Deadshot tried shooting him only for Flash to outrun the bullet.

    • @Dollarstorestuff
      @Dollarstorestuff 23 дні тому

      ​@@Velocity_YTHELLO IT ME I FOUND OUT HOW TO FLY

  • @austinchuilli3652
    @austinchuilli3652 15 днів тому +2

    My personal head cannon is the Speed Force is sentient to some degree, thus only granting speedsters a base boost to speed with an additional increase as needed. However, since the SF isn't fully sentient it doesn't always supply enough speed.

  • @Xenobears
    @Xenobears 19 днів тому +5

    The only way I could see Flash successfully getting shot with a bullet is if it was traveling at supersonic speed from behind the Flash.
    Like a rail gun round.
    At above Mach I, the bullet would be traveling faster than sound so Flash couldn’t hear it coming. Being from behind would mean that he wouldn’t see it coming, either.
    However, most versions of the Flash are so freaking fast that as soon as the round touches his suit, he’d be able to feel it and move out of the way before it penetrates more than the first layer of his epidermis.
    Really, the only thing that should be hitting him should be other speedsters or light speed projectiles (and even those he can dodge considering how he can go faster than light in some iterations). His need for calories should be played up more to nerf his power-maybe make a smart, tough opponent distract him while the area is sealed off and wait for him to run out of steam before letting non-speedsters try to tackle him.
    In the case of CW Flash, just have the villain stand out in the open and wait for Barry to stop in front of them. He will forget he even has super speed while he’s monologuing.

    • @eduardopantoja9115
      @eduardopantoja9115 13 днів тому +1

      I agree with you, they should have made his fast metabolism a good weakness because shockingly they don't use it as much as how villans use Kryptonite against superman.
      I know that they do mention that the flash needs to eat a ton of food everyday or so but it never actually lead to him losing a fight, getting caught off guard, or getting to exhused and passing out from the lack of consuming enough food.
      It's a very simple, logical and effective weakness they can use to build stakes and ground his powers.

  • @obiomachukwuocha4918
    @obiomachukwuocha4918 19 днів тому +5

    Ok I want to talk about the bullet problem....
    First, he is facing away from the bullet, therefore he cannot see it coming. The bullet is moving faster than the speed of sound (as bullets usually do) so the flash could never hear it. If the flash was facing the gun then he would be able to see the muzzle-flash and dodge it.
    Second, feeling the pressure waves of the bullet also doesn't make sense for the same reasons. Pressure waves are amplified sound waves. So the flash would feel the bullet before the pressure waves since bullets are faster than the speed of sound.

    • @eduardopantoja9115
      @eduardopantoja9115 13 днів тому

      Doesn't the flash move at the speed of light or way beyond in some cases

    • @obiomachukwuocha4918
      @obiomachukwuocha4918 5 днів тому

      @@eduardopantoja9115 yes but moving at the speed of light wouldn't save you from a bullet that you can't see

  • @lukeroberts6747
    @lukeroberts6747 21 день тому +5

    The only thing I disagree with u on is JLU because that is some of the best writing in my personal opinion

    • @lightdarksoul2097
      @lightdarksoul2097 8 днів тому

      It has some of the best writing but not everything in it is the best

  • @baligong3592
    @baligong3592 15 днів тому +4

    ABOUT THE DEADSHOT SITUATION: 5:11
    **How does get shot by a Sniper that is Extremely far away?**
    - because... He's extremely far away. Have you ever looked up in the sky and saw how slow a Plane is moving? Or watched from a building how cars on a highway seem slow? Same happened to The Flash.
    **How does Flash, for one, not hear the bullet going off, or feel the wind from that bullet?**
    - because a Bullet from a DMR or a Bolt Action goes 1,000+ MPH, which is above the Speed of Sound. The Bullet will be sitting waiting for sound to catch up before you realised you've been shot.
    - You can NEVER feel a Bullet coming even if you have super speed, because a bullet rips through the air. A Sniper Rifle Bullet is DESIGNED to rip through the air. If Anything, it's Plot Armour that Flash's leg hasn't been blown off.
    This happened in a section of the game where Flash was running slow to save people from Brainiac's Invasion. Deadshot, an Opportunist, took advantage of Flash's kindness.

    • @baligong3592
      @baligong3592 15 днів тому +1

      This scene is used frequently as a "Flash has been nerfed" but if anything, Flash has been buffed.
      Flash, withstood from a Sniper Rifle blowing off his Leg, AND got back up next second, DESPITE COLD SLOWING HIS HEALING, to fight off getting jumped.

    • @ismaelbauman2156
      @ismaelbauman2156 15 днів тому

      While I agree with most of your points. Hitting a target that is far away is still harder than up close even if it appears to be moving slower at a distance. The fact that Deadshot was far away only explains why his aim could move faster than flash could run, not why he was able to hit flash.

    • @baligong3592
      @baligong3592 15 днів тому

      @@ismaelbauman2156
      I already stated, because a Sniper Rifle Bullet is capable of surpassing 1,000+MPH. Flash can't dodge a bullet the moment he hears it get fired, because it travels faster than sound. Added with the fact that Flash was shot from behind, he did not see the bullet hit him. Flash also was not going very fast, as he was going rather slow to save people, which I mentioned.
      That's why Flash was shot.
      Also, had this been anyone else, I would believe there's a likelihood to miss, but because Deadshot is considered World's Greatest Marksman, this makes sense.

  • @genesismultiverse4896
    @genesismultiverse4896 19 днів тому +5

    We can agree cw's downfall was starting from season 4

    • @jab9109
      @jab9109 19 днів тому

      More like season 1

    • @genesismultiverse4896
      @genesismultiverse4896 19 днів тому +2

      @@jab9109 nah the suit and storytelling got somewhat worse after season 4 it should have just been wally and the rest after barry

  • @Regibump37
    @Regibump37 21 день тому +6

    I've been waiting for a video to come like this, one that agrees with the faults in the Flash's power scaling while getting why people still love this character as a whole. I personally view it similar to Superman, he’s great when the writer clearly understand how this character should act and right villains that can have a justified reason to go against him (with potentially a slight nerf to limit the excuse of time travelling to before the villain existed).
    If I had to say an example of DC media which handled the Flash well, it'd be Justice League Doom. It presents a clear example at how the rouges are able to stand as viable villains to the Flash, in this case Mirror Master, all while maintaining consistently for how the Flash handles these threats. He doesn’t rush head into a potential trap, he uses his super speed effectively when he can, he’s forced into situations to play the enemy’s game to survive and has clear limitations to how long he can keep his speed up for.

    • @eduardopantoja9115
      @eduardopantoja9115 13 днів тому +1

      I feel like the time travel powers were a bad idea to give to the flash because it feels like the flash is an easy reboot button if dc fucks up the story too much and wants an easy reboot excuse.

    • @Regibump37
      @Regibump37 13 днів тому +2

      @@eduardopantoja9115 I will say that I don’t mind the Cosmic Treadmill working as a time travel device, as that forces Flash to be in a specific location and build a charge there in order to get to that location, not to mention an item that needs to be build/can be destroyed. It was Justice League Dark Apokalips War that killed him freely travelling, as that’s the only reason they kept him alive in that film to undo everything.
      And just remove that ability all together from Superman, that power literally was used to undo the plot of Superman 2.

  • @Masonicon
    @Masonicon 3 дні тому

    When I make Takeru Takaishi from Digimon Time Manipulation for one of his Superpowers(that allows him to bootlegs Speedforce) I gave him at least 2 weaknesses for balancing him better than Bad writings: one of them was to touch upon both Beast Boy and Lisa Simpson's vegetarianisms in my mega crossover, and he can also temporarily depowered when he feels despair(cuz his powers are tied to the Crest of Hope)

  • @kenj0165
    @kenj0165 20 днів тому +4

    Lantern dressed like Sunspot in the thumbnail

  • @thelukeofficial9626
    @thelukeofficial9626 15 днів тому

    Couldn’t of said it better myself
    Also there’s a character similar to the flash on Amazon called red rush in a show called invisible I think they did a decent job with his powers

  • @jamesgraydon556
    @jamesgraydon556 17 днів тому +1

    Just want to pint out that the flash cannot react to bullets from a sniper if he cannot see them. Most sniper billets travel well beyond the speed of sound so unless he can see the gun being fired he would have no way to know he is being shot at. The first signal he would get would be the bullet hitting him

  • @MaverickChristian
    @MaverickChristian 15 днів тому +1

    That particular Justice League Unlimited was probably the least bad writing of this bunch (and I've seen some terrible writing for the Flash). It was an extreme situation so Flash decided to go beyond what he normally does and there's an explanation why he can never go that fast again. What was much worse was the Justice League episode "The Brave and the Bold, Part I" where Flash had _way_ too much trouble catching up with a van!

  • @TheMiojox
    @TheMiojox 5 днів тому

    For the deadshot bullet, I'd assume Flash was at a constant speed that was slower than the bullet's travel speed. Sound travels slower than a sniper bullet, so he could only hear the shot after the bullet got to him. "Feeling the air around the bullet" would be nanoseconds reaction time, which the flash could, but then again he'd be dodging mosquitoes all over the streets. Just because he can move faster than anything, doesn't mean he is at 10 trillion times FTL all the time.

  • @dannyphantom3090
    @dannyphantom3090 10 днів тому +1

    The flash came out when i was in 6th grade and honestly i enjoyed the entire show. S3 is the only season im not to fond of because of the darker tone.
    Also with zoom the reason he was faster is because he took a drug to enhanced his speed but he took so much that it posioned his speed force connection killing him so he needed Barry positive speed force connection to stabilize him.

  • @mandalorianhunter1
    @mandalorianhunter1 20 днів тому

    Hey just found your channel.
    CW Flash I love, I'm 30 so I grew up with multiple Flashes. I do agree the writing becomes awful, but he is still one of the strongest versions of the character. He is much stronger then Justice league and the DCEU Flash by a far mile.
    Yeah i hate bad writing just like how it effects Superman and Spider-Man.
    Flash is in my top 5 superheroes so I can't get enough of him.

  • @san-joshuabarrett
    @san-joshuabarrett 20 днів тому

    CW Flash is my favorite. Season 1&2 was very entertaining even when rewatching it now seeing some of the inconsistencies I didn't see the first time. But its really just the battle of trying to balance an overpowered character. I remember being in grade 10&11 watching seasons 1&2 thinking i could actually achieve some of those speed after seeing the Particle accelerator in one of my text books😂😂

  • @vullord666
    @vullord666 17 днів тому

    It's actually pretty interesting how comic plots continue to take speed out of the equation to add tension. Like right now speed is worthless because they're dealing with different dimensions (like not multiverse but 2 dimensional vs 3 dimensional). Then way back in one minute war everyone was already moving super fast so for the most part their greatest asset didn't matter.

  • @therepublicofdave1498
    @therepublicofdave1498 2 дні тому +1

    the one and only part of this i kinda disagree with is the thawne part, canonically he kinda gets a pass to always come back as fast as barry because he generates negative speed force by siphoning the speed force which is generated by barry, meaning the faster and more powerful barry gets the more powerful the negative speedforce and thawne become.

  • @GodsNut
    @GodsNut 13 днів тому +1

    I think we have to reevaluate how strong these speedsters are,
    Barry vs Shazam’s death.
    I don’t think super speed thinking would help him in predicting Superman KILL SHAZAM. Superman is supposed to be that guy to flash, someone to look up to.
    Barry vs Bullet
    Speed-force when preparing to run is charged and then spread throughout the body, while speed thinking is when you put the speed force in your mind sort of. So when running, he has the aura and travel speed, not necessarily the reaction speed, but the turning instantly may be a time-frame where he uses his flash time to perceive where he is. But still, depending on how fast he’s going, that bullet should have either been disintegrated or gone straight through. Especially if it was made for him. It is very possible for that to happen imo. That also explains why speedsters are getting tagged by so many things you think they shouldn’t be getting tagged by, like when reverse flash got hit by cat woman while he was running(doesn’t say how fast he was going, just that he just got done time traveling, he could definitely reduce his speed in the interval between the jump through time and being in catwomans range.
    His fluctuation between being the most “powerful” and just another member of JL is because the faster the speedster goes, the more it actually hurts for them, we seen it with Flash vs Brainiac-Lex. We seen it with Kid Flash when he sacrificed himself in Young Justice. I think it’s one of the flash facts, if not the aura or time traveling/universe hopping being difficult bc he can get lost due to not mapping the speed force like Reverse Flash or not vibrating at the right frequency.

  • @ZoneHeart-yc8iv
    @ZoneHeart-yc8iv 2 години тому

    I can think of an actual list of ways to stop Flash or weaken him to some degree or whatever the plot needs. But I'd like to talk about 1 of those ways specifically. Let's talk about a line from CW's version, where Iris sees him drinking an alcoholic beverage and she says, "Barry, you know you can't get drunk." I personally believe this applies to many other aspects of Flash's life. If he can't get drunk from 15 bottles of beer like any other human being can, then he also can't be poisoned like any human can be either. This being because of his fast metabolism filtering out the toxins in his body. But if this is the case, then how do you stop him if he can't get drunk or be poisoned? And the answer is so simple......... (NOTE: This is just my personal head cannon.)
    Put a BOATLOAD of poison into a bottle of beer that has enough alcohol to make ANYONE drunk just by looking at it. Put into that beer enough poison to take out 10 states worth of people from just 1 sip. Then repeat that process for another 14-19 beers. After that, serve them all to Flash. Now he has even more toxins to worry about from the alcohol AND he's drinking enough poison to take out then Entire U.S.A. and a few other countries. I'm sorry, but his metabolism simply can't handle all of those toxins that fast. He obviously won't be killed by the stunt, but he'll definitely be weaker and possibly drunk. You can easily get some lucky hits in from there.

  • @strpe9701
    @strpe9701 19 днів тому +3

    Flash is easily a superman level threat if he actually carried through with the implications of his powers. Flash could BODY any kryptonian and I’m supposed to believe they’re equals?

  • @MrDj232
    @MrDj232 7 годин тому

    I see the title and all I can hear is Madvocate chanting "don't stop to talk" over and over again.

  • @dastealthbear6693
    @dastealthbear6693 5 днів тому +1

    If im not mistaken Reverse flash pulls his power off of flashs speed force like a Parasite.

  • @rogerbrownreacts8528
    @rogerbrownreacts8528 11 днів тому +2

    Flash is the most broken character ever. DC has a habit of it.

  • @libertyprime1614
    @libertyprime1614 2 дні тому

    You can't hear bullet or feel the wind before it hits you, because bullet is faster than sound and wind comes after. That being said the forces on Flash's body when he moves are far greater than any bullet can transfer, so why would bullet even hurt him if his speed doesn't.

  • @davinwilliams3130
    @davinwilliams3130 3 дні тому

    5:28 I think most rifle bullets travel faster than the speed of sound. Everything else you said still stands though.

  • @brantjustilian3791
    @brantjustilian3791 8 годин тому

    Zipping around
    Through the town
    Pass the clown
    Through the underground
    Into the air
    Watch out for the chair
    Going upstairs
    To the villains layer

  • @Tyr5555
    @Tyr5555 19 днів тому +1

    Wally west is my favourite character and hero’s in crisis is the perfect example of this

  • @efficientfuture1336
    @efficientfuture1336 3 дні тому

    Flash wouldn't be able to Dodge bullets in real life unless he saw them. Most bullets travel faster than sound so they would reach him before the sound would reach his ears. You'd have to use subsonic ammunition but those would travel extremely slow in comparison.

  • @Yurikon3
    @Yurikon3 16 днів тому

    Flash suffers from being from the time when supes were the new things and their powers basically were anything kids would come up during their kindergarden fights. The priorities were bit different back then.
    One thing I could think of is that there is serious drawback to the speed or certain cost one must pay to have that speed per day or even week. Also that your speed cannot be as speedy as the comprehension of one's mind. When speeds start to go near light-fast, one's senses start to have hard time to decipher where to go and the composition of one's body starts to feel the issues. Perhaps when Flash is in his "speed" mode, he must be careful while contacting any object cause the force he directs to it, will be directed back at him, so his bones are on the constant danger to shatter.
    Of course these limitations would really make Flash totally different kind of series. Perhaps shorter show, more akin to Superhero+Rocky-like story where promising Super-athlete is in danger to destroy himself in early years due stress his speed causes on himself.
    So in the end writer's job might essentially to be just make reader to not give a shit about details and enjoy the ride.

  • @moracomole8090
    @moracomole8090 9 днів тому

    That lex Luthor is not just Lex Luthor+ Brainiac
    But Luthor+ Braniac+Dark Heart
    Dark Heart was an Omega level threat equal to a Gray goo catastrophe

  • @dannyphantom3090
    @dannyphantom3090 10 днів тому +1

    Honestly superman pisses me off more than flash because superman has super speed and other powers but still gets beat by people far slower when he could easily overwhelm them with his strength and speed.

  • @greathero723
    @greathero723 6 днів тому

    sooo is anyone ever thought of poisoned the flash will be more possible this way ?

  • @remakestudios2020
    @remakestudios2020 22 дні тому

    Comic Casual can you do video Could Avengers survive Arkham Origins. Avengers taken from series like 'Avengers Earth's Mightiest Heroes 2010 year', take heroes from season 1 and they fight against 8 assassins. fight be like that 'Iron Man vs Firefly', 'Thor vs Electrocutioner', 'Captain America vs Deathstroke, 'Hulk vs Bane TN-1', 'Ant-Man vs Killer-Croc', 'Black Panther vs Copperhead', 'Hawkeye vs Deadshot' and 'Wasp vs Shiva'. So i want see this video and figure found could 8 heroes defeat these 8 assassins.

  • @5lim.0
    @5lim.0 16 днів тому

    Bullets travel faster than sound. So it would hit him before he heard it. If he saw the bullet or the gun, then sure. But he wouldn’t hear it

  • @johnprime1147
    @johnprime1147 16 днів тому +2

    A good story that will prove the point that bad writing I'd truly The Flash's enemy. Ever heard of; Justice League Flashpoint Paradox?
    It's a Flash movie. Shoot me to prove me wrong. And in it. Flash isn't actually THAT fast. The fast as in so fast he can rip someone's heart out. Also in it he doesn't quip as much. He does at the beginning but it can truly be ignored as he just takes out his villains. He is only defeated when. Oh my god! He couldn't react in time to Boomerang's glue filled Boomerang! He truly is slow in it. After that he stays quite consistent unlike: The Flash 2023 Movie. How I knew this movie was better than the 2023 movie isn't just because I watched them back to back. But also I watched Madvocate a UA-camr review the movie

  • @ss1299
    @ss1299 13 днів тому

    The flash is my favorite superhero ever and they treated him so badly I’m actually pissed that they treated him this badly

  • @Bad_10
    @Bad_10 9 днів тому

    This was actually pretty decent while the details were pointed out ngl

  • @jeffreyonemu1426
    @jeffreyonemu1426 10 днів тому

    DC Comics: *Make the Flash a bazillion times faster than light for no actual reason*
    Also DC Comics: *Try to pretend that a human with very human reflexes pulling the trigger on a cold gun is realistic opposition"

  • @OpiumPrime28
    @OpiumPrime28 13 днів тому

    I like Arkham Knight where you can hear a thug say "I'd rather be a criminal here than in central city, at least you can see the bat coming"

  • @HallowPool193
    @HallowPool193 16 днів тому

    Some good Flashs DCAMU Flash, CW Season 1 to 3 Flash, DCAU Flash, and Flash rebirth. There are others these are just ones i listed the writing is good

  • @Derrick-hi7vk
    @Derrick-hi7vk 17 днів тому

    Notice how theres almost no invisible characters. And few that we see are usually gag characters

  • @_feli_1085
    @_feli_1085 18 днів тому

    The kryptonite pill does I'm fact allow you to love at superspeed, that's why Batman defeated Superman in that alley in the Injustice year 5 comic. If the pill only granted strength, batman would've lost because Superman would've dodged every strike.

  • @TheGoldenFighter
    @TheGoldenFighter 17 днів тому

    Well it's good people recognize it now, I'll say it's not bad writing in a way, but just the same for any of these characters, as on a laymans perspective, why does Superman lose to anyone if he's so strong, strong enemies or not so yh. It's just plot like another has said. This goes for all media, also, not sure, but I think Flash just struggles normally with his feelings, it doesn't matter that he can think superfast, he just chooses not to, and even if he did, like with Injustice, he can't do just anything.

  • @Guilherme-Cassel
    @Guilherme-Cassel 17 днів тому

    No one talks about cw flashing slowing down a nuclear explosion into an entire episode or multiple hours in season 4, which by some simple calculation we get that he was something around 30000x the speed of light? Oh right.
    Then they just forget it ever happened.

  • @backtrackmad8806
    @backtrackmad8806 4 дні тому

    14:28 No, it’s because zoom took v-9 which boosted his speed

  • @backtrackmad8806
    @backtrackmad8806 4 дні тому

    I haven’t watched the flash yet but I’m gonna predict that the cw flash will be in this video

  • @trevorhoffler-xu5bq
    @trevorhoffler-xu5bq 20 днів тому +1

    The problem with Injustice Flash, and probably the biggest plothole in the entire story is his finishing move in the game. Which clearly shows us that this Flash can travel through time like the main canon Flash...and he NEVER considers going back to stop the Joker from getting to Lois in the first place..Even after he witnessed WW and Superman cripple a dude for essentially protesting...Barrys response was to essentially quit the League when he could've just went back and changed it. So much of Injustice could only be possible due to the complete incompetence of the rest of the League minus Batman

  • @s4mur4rtist21
    @s4mur4rtist21 17 днів тому

    CW flash should have never even reeived any love cos even in s1 where hes fighting his villain of the week it makes NOOOO sense at at all how the villain gets away the first time they have an encounter, it literally makes no sense cos even in s1 we see that barry is able to move faster than bullets and faster than the eye can even see yet somehow these villains of his are getting away from him, either they get on motorbike or something or its just trash writing and they can kinda just disappear from the scene suggesting they snuck away which also doesnt work cos the flash can search the area in like 10 seconds

  • @Ben-ey2rl
    @Ben-ey2rl 17 днів тому

    Madvocate made a great series on the CW flash

  • @Faster_than_light_x
    @Faster_than_light_x 14 днів тому

    I dare ya all, if you guys ever read any of the Flash comics, and have some decent knowledge about him then you would know Every Speedster has a ADHD zoning out problem, Barry explained himself that if he sees everything at slow mo then he will get bored and might go insane, 1 min seems like an eternity to him that's why He zones out when he has to run long distances by doing that he makes it seem instant and sometimes he accidentally zones out while fighting his enemies only then he gets tagged, Flash has his fair share of weaknesses as well.

  • @aminegold3599
    @aminegold3599 5 днів тому

    0:38 Invisible

  • @all9472
    @all9472 20 днів тому

    To be fair bullets are not all equal in speed and the pill buff all physical stats but not to be fair he should still be okay with both situations because he's too fast to op the writers automatically write them selfs into a corner because flash insanely flawed design the creator of flash made a trap this isn't a character that can be used in stories easily he needs some kind of nerf I recommend hummingbird as in each run he needs calories if he runs too much with no Cal he starves to death this limits his speed and op

  • @atrain-wr9je
    @atrain-wr9je 10 днів тому

    This is a DC issue not just a flash issue.

  • @Kal-El-gm5pc
    @Kal-El-gm5pc 16 днів тому

    I understand your point but tbh 😅, you ain't even like thinking about this shit properly. How's deadshot able to trace him with a scope, was his hand and eyes supersonic

    • @ComicCasualVideos
      @ComicCasualVideos  16 днів тому

      Thats what I meant honestly, def explained it awkwardly when talking about that point lol

  • @moracomole8090
    @moracomole8090 9 днів тому

    anything other than the Original Creator/Writer might as well be fanfiction

  • @LeonardoTyrone-sr4qz
    @LeonardoTyrone-sr4qz 21 день тому +2

    9:03 flash

  • @Hades_Eclipse
    @Hades_Eclipse 18 днів тому

    After watching this vid there is only one thing i can say... Fax.

  • @cocane_ad3249
    @cocane_ad3249 17 днів тому

    Will never understand how flash got shot in the leg in injustice2

  • @Kellen-bj3jy
    @Kellen-bj3jy 11 днів тому

    I think justice league unlimited is prime of dc brought into the world the dcu should have used it as their material im happy James isn't making the same mistake

  • @jerielchan4777
    @jerielchan4777 15 днів тому

    Actually the speed of bullet is way faster than the speed of sound, hence why Barry couldn’t have heard it 🤓☝️

  • @kamoc5803
    @kamoc5803 17 днів тому

    just read the comics, the writing is actually good and they dont nerf and buff flash when its convenient for the plot.

  • @sandythamtono2081
    @sandythamtono2081 8 днів тому

    This is what happen when you dont have rules and limitation to these so called superpower
    He basically god with unlimited power with that
    Same can also be said with superman in deathbattle when they said he can travel accross the multiverse in minutes. But that kind of quantillion speed is never used during his fights. Or how he can drag planets with his might but cant just splatter villain with that level of strength punching em 😂

  • @user-nn6yd2oj2e
    @user-nn6yd2oj2e День тому

    Batman is the incarnation of plot armor flash is the incarnation of bad writting

  • @Thomasthecreator98
    @Thomasthecreator98 20 днів тому

    cw flash made me love the flash and did more research

  • @albertthepeacock8020
    @albertthepeacock8020 17 днів тому

    If you're not Batman you're going to be the punching bag for bad writing

  • @Jarjarbinks5510
    @Jarjarbinks5510 19 днів тому

    4:17 I think you meant deadshot

    • @ComicCasualVideos
      @ComicCasualVideos  19 днів тому

      No I was talking about in Injustice Gods Among Us Deathstroke beats the flash

  • @Guilherme-Cassel
    @Guilherme-Cassel 17 днів тому

    If flash was always using 100% of his powers, the avarage DC movie would have 1 second.

  • @genesismultiverse4896
    @genesismultiverse4896 20 днів тому +1

    FLASH!!! AHHHHH
    #spideyandflashbothsuffer

  • @ARRECON18
    @ARRECON18 19 днів тому

    Bro I love the idea too it’s so fucking interesting I know it’s so fucking wrong in the physics but still I love it if there was no plot bullshit then flash would be a god , I am really sorry for the suicide squad kill the justice league directors you can kill the flash with just bullets that’s sad …

  • @pk5727
    @pk5727 20 днів тому

    Does 6:19 his powers include super hearing, super thinking, or feeling wind differences.?

  • @sjbrigante4845
    @sjbrigante4845 9 днів тому

    Batman is the reason why this is. The DC universe exists for the sole purpose of making Batman look good. This is the reason why every JL member has some ridiculous easily exploitable weakness. Because those characters have to be able to be defeated by Batman. DC themselves said their company is Batman ------------------Superman----------------------------rest of the DC verse. Other characters have to be made bad in order for Batman to be made good. Flash is a casualty of this. So, if you want to blame anyone for this, blame Batman fans and their incessant need for him to look good.

  • @callmejacob3234
    @callmejacob3234 20 днів тому

    The main problem with Flash is they try too hard to turn Barry Allen into Wally West.

  • @sarmadhabibkhan3036
    @sarmadhabibkhan3036 15 днів тому

    Flash and Spiderman both are victims of bad writing

  • @supernerdworld8532
    @supernerdworld8532 3 дні тому

    Even for CW the Flash show was specially bad. Specially from season 4 and beyond.

  • @ducasse8473
    @ducasse8473 16 днів тому

    Nah. superman is the greatest fumble of all time. Even his best comics dont really hit his full potential as a character and idea.

  • @NAGAVERSE
    @NAGAVERSE 20 днів тому +1

    Forget Flash written by humans.
    Ezra Miller is a bad writing on God's part.

  • @atrain-wr9je
    @atrain-wr9je 10 днів тому

    DC is horrible when it comes to writing. Superman with glasses = no one knows its Superman, Batman with prep time is stupid, Lasso of truth and boomerang tiara, Flash slipping on banana peels, Superman moving the earth one comic, and the next getting handed to by Lex Luthor in a robot suit... Give me a break.

  • @Labcabin96
    @Labcabin96 12 годин тому

    The flash was a.victim kf.bad everythng

  • @kuldeepsingh4166
    @kuldeepsingh4166 20 днів тому

    Now times cartoon are soo bad

  • @thelastotsutsuki-1657
    @thelastotsutsuki-1657 19 днів тому

    Its just a cartoon its not meant to be taken seriously yall nerds just hurt yall heads trying to comprehend inconsistency.

  • @lovethedemonwolf.roadto2k
    @lovethedemonwolf.roadto2k 24 дні тому +4

    i agree the writing of flashes humanity is good but his powers and speed are inconsisent