Just got my lifetime carry, now im looking at the m&p carry and range kit with the 9mm! Stoked! Makes me happy that everywhere i go ive heard and been told that M&P is an excellent choice! God Bless!
get a shield. I carry mine at all times when out of the house in a desantis IWB holster and a galco non reinforced 1.5" instructors belt and it's very comfortable to carry.
I have done a full magazine well bevel job on my m&p and this really helps alleviate much of the scaring from magazine loading. Another big thing is treating it with FrogLube. By applying the FrogLube lube to the magazine well with heat it will help make this a high lubricity area. Great review and video.
Pretty fantastic results! Amazing what a well built polymer pistol is capable of. You've put more rounds through this single gun that many people shoot in their lifetime! The service life of the Beretta M9 pistol is around 15,000 rounds - you've definitely exceeded that. Makes you wonder if the military will ever consider a switch.
Freggin love my Pro!!!! Shot a perfect LTC score just this past February. I also love upgrading my guns but I have yet to touch my M&P Pro... it's the only gun I've ever owned that I can't seem to weigh out any advantages on buying aftermarket parts. Not saying that the aftermarket parts such as APEX don't enhance or serve a purpose, I'm just really happy with the performance and don't need to change anything about it.
Great review. I've got 1000+ rounds through my M&P40 (I know, nothing like 21,000 haha). No malfunctions of any kind, feels great in the hand, very accurate, and fairly soft recoil (I think) for a 40. Reset is not so great on the trigger but I know where it is so I'm fine with it. Overall great gun, definitely a keeper.
Great video! I just purchased an Smith & Wesson M&P 9 last Thursday. I live in Maryland, so I have to wait for the mandatory state police check before I can actually get it home. I have been looking on youtube for reviews and I'm glad to see and hear how well you like yours and that these pistols have such longevity. Take care
I've had my Pro 9 about 10 days now and love it. First tried a 9mm in 1969, a Browning, but this is the first one I've been thrilled about. Pointability is great. My connection to S&W is almost umbilical in nature. I'm so glad this grand old company has pulled it off again, a real winner! Your videos are excellent. You make it look so easy, but I know there's a lot of hard work in making it look that way.
Happy to connect. These pistols are well made and smith backs up their products. Made in the USA and from my experience durable as hell. Thanks for watching.
Good point . I agree on the triggers... for me the key is the RAM. After years on the Glock, not having that distinct reset really was difficult to get used to. The RAM helped fix that. Agree with the comment on a block rear sight. But, I left this as is as it's a range and competition gun only, not a EDC. Put that money to sights for my EDC guns. Thanks for your comments!
There’s one manufacturer that I have never had a malfunction on any of their models and that’s S&W. 5906/4506/SW99/Shield/M&P9/9c/40/2.0/M&P15-22/15T/Pro Series/642/327PD...Not one failure in 25 years of owning, carrying, and shooting these guns on duty, off duty, and competition. Great job 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
So I've been a Glock guy for so long but I do really like the ergos of the M&P and am planning to pick up the M&P Vtac this week. Thanks for the great reviews. Keep up the great work. Merry Christmas all.
Just put one on Layaway. Should be getting it by the end of the month. Really like these videos. They've given me insight as to what I'm getting. This will be my first 9mm, I have a Rock Island 1911 .45 at present. Aside from the M9 and my In-laws Glock, I haven't had much experience on other 9mm platforms. Your reviews have definitely made me feel confident in my purchase.
I love my M&P's my Pro 9mm has around 1,000rds, no issues, I just picked up a 9mm Compact and put 200rds through it without a n issue. The M&P feels great in my hands, I tried Glocks, but they dont fit me at all. I am sure people have had problems with M&P's, but everyone I shoot with has at least 1 model, and none of us has had a failure. the M&P line is the only polymer handgun I will own, I like all metal handguns. Other than my two M&P's I currently have a CZ 75B Omega, Sig P226 German Non Railed, Beretta M9, and a Browning Hi Power (my all time favorite).
Recoil is subjective. I have a video on the channel comparing the G17 and the MP 9mm... check that out. I love glocks and shot them for 20 years. Three years ago i transitioned to MPs because the fit my hands better. The felt recoil for me is less with the MP but some others say Glocks. Whatever works best for you...
Great videos. You are very informative and you know your stuff. I too, own the M&P pistol line. I have 3 M&P 9's one of which is the pro series, and 3 of the M&P .45's. I currently have 1 M&P 9 that has just about 15,000 rounds through it and it's amazingly still somewhat snug. Not a much bigger difference than my M&P 9's that have only 1,000-2,000 rounds through them. Smith&Wesson definitely makes quality. My M&P .45's have about 800 rounds through them and they are also flawless. I, being a gunsmith, inspect my firearms after every 2,000 rounds. The M&P's are an excellent pistol choice and my personal favorites. Although I own Glocks too.
I'm up to 25,000 rounds and no issues from the M&P 9, haven't replaced a thing and all is still strong. I met a guy at the range where I go, and he has a Pro Series 9 which he claims to have 34,000 rounds through it without any problems. Not quite sure if it's true, but his firearm has ALOT more wear than my M&P and mine has 25,000.
An excellent choice! I own two G19s and think they may be one of the best 9mm out there. I've shot thousands of rounds through my Gen 2 G19.... I've also done a review on my channel of the Gen 4 G19. There are hundreds of aftermarket parts for the G19 and they are very easy to work on. Buy high cap mags now! They will soon be unavailable. Thanks for watching...
Love the video sir! I have an MP Shield myself, and the trigger has a very nice crisp reset. I had heard that they were putting the Shield trigger in all the future MP pistols, but I'm not sure how accurate that statement is. I have been thinking about purchasing a full-size MP 9mm for quite some time, and I think this video finally convinced me. Hopefully in a month or so I'll have a new MP to add the the arsenal. Keep up the videos!
Dude great shooting and killer video, I have the M&P 9mm Pro in 4.25 and it is really a great gun! Hope to catch more of your vids, keep up the good work!
Sorry for the delay in responding. been doing lots of teaching and having a hard time responding to all the comments. Like you I think the M&Ps are super guns! The Shield in 9mm is rapidly becoming my choice for EDC. Very small and yet easy to shoot. Hope you'll check some of the other vids and share with your friends and family. All the best...
Looking at this platform this week (just got to hold it to know if it is me). Quite rare in this part of the world. IPSC is the only game in town & dominated by CZ SPO1 (production). It is good to know the M&P still going strong after 20,000 rounds
I get it... yes as you suggested perhaps it is likely that is intended to remind folks to replace the spring and guide assembly. I wanted to run mine to failure but it never failed. So I did replace the whole assembly after 21,000. Now I do it whenever the pait has fully worn away. Thanks for watching and commenting.
Mine is just about to go 5000 rounds, still going strong no dramas at all. I use predominantly reloads, 130 ish power factor for IPSC competition. Love to see the .22 version reviewed if you can get ya hands on one. In New Zealand you are only allowed to shoot a pistol on a "certified" range, no carry, not even in your residence. Thought you guys might like to know how lucky you are. Another enjoyable clip.
ATEi, utilizes many of the stock components (at least the trigger job I got done) and polishes them. The trigger is VERY smooth. The break and reset are crisp (the break is not like "glass" but it's crisp). He reduces the reset to about half.
Range kit is a great value...you get three mags, holster and mag pouches. I think it's one of the best values on the market. Because the SW M&P mags are so hard to come-by I tell my students to grab a range kit if its fairly priced.
I have a ruger .22 mk II target pistol that I've put in excess of 100,000 rounds through and it's still clicking along just fine. Every time we take it out we go through at least a thousand rounds minimum. The only thing I've ever done other than clean it was purchase two extra mags. Probably could not afford to do that with 9mm but it's fun to plink with the rimfire and all my friends enjoy shooting the pistol because of the low recoil.
A .22 is a great gun to learn marksmanship skills (trigger press, sight picture, sight alignment, grip and stance). I prefer a Ruger 22/45 or Marklll or a Browning Buckmark as those triggers are so much better than the SR22. However, the SR22 would work fine. Start with the targets at no more than 3 yards until she gets a consistent group then move to 5, 7 and 10. Good luck ...
A .22 is a great way to start. I am not a fan of the M&P .22 trigger but it will serve as a trianer and be inexpensive to shoot. And if the M&P is the main platform you two will be using, then the M&P 22 makese sense to me!
M&P is a GREAT gun on MANY levels. Ergonomics bieng the BEST. Longevity as you are pointing out. Safety...I prefer a mag disconnect AND sear disconnect. (Many DO NOT like these features.) Good looks.... I appreciate your opinion and video. Hopefully S&W ponied up a freebie for torturing thier product in such a fine manner. Best wishes.
BillMcGirr Thanks for watching. I own several M&Ps and do like them very much. Mine do not have the mag disconnect or external safety as I don't care for that set up. However the fact they provide both options is a strong selling point.
Sir, all I can say is it depends on your clothing and the way you carry. The 9c works very well for me, especially with apendix carry. I'm doing a review of the Comp-Tac 2 OClock holster with both the MP full size and MP 9c this weekend. Watch it and maybe you'll get a sense of what might work for you. Hope that helps!
Apex dot com. Forward set trigger. The most important thing is to get the RAM part installed (reset assist mechanism). That part alone will make a huge difference, especially if you've trained to ride the trigger through the reset process. Hope this helps.
I have a ways to go to catch up to 21k rounds. I'm at about 2600 by my best estimate. I was pleased to hear that your M&P held up with that many rounds. By the way the 5" pro9 was the gun I choose for my first handgun. When I rent a Glock17 at my range, I find I shoot it way worse than my M&P. I was 99.5% sure I was going to buy a Glock17 but walked out with an M&P.I'm happy I did. Good video.
My M&P has the best DAO trigger I've ever used. It's the stock trigger. It's a 2012 or 2013 model. I take up the slack with very little resistance, then come to a spot where the resistance increases. Apply 5-6 lbs of pressure gives a very crisp trigger break, much like on a SA pistol. I really like that trigger. I've never had a failure of any kind so far with it, but I have nowhere near 21,000 rounds thu it.
Tough choice. I've been shooting glocks for 20 years but have recently fallen for the MPs. The ergonomics for the MP are better for me. For combat tested shooting... Glocks have proven their value. Glocks are so freaking durable there is no doubt they will last. Both have been 100% reliable for me with factory ammo. Glocks are easier to work on but the feel of the M&P is just wonderful. You can't go wrong with the G34 or the MP pro.
Back when I used to shoot the .40 Ammo was far less expensive but yes I shoot a lot. I also reload which dramatically reduces the cost of the ammo. Unfortunately whenever someone like you adds up the cost that I spent shooting I have to hide that comment from my wife!Thanks for watching!
Glock has been around for 20 years longer, has been thoroughly vetted in actual field use and in police holsters. In the mid-2000s, out of frustration, S&W's CEO threw a Glock 17 on the S&W engineers' table and said, "Just copy the damned thing," which S&W did, and had to pay Glock some cash for the patent infringement. M&P stands for, "2 decades late to the dance."
Well sort of... the grip angle on the M&P is better for me. M&P added flexibility of back straps (took glock a good deal of competition until they came up with some modular options). The 2.0 is an improvement and thanks to Greg Grutter (good friend and chief Instructor at S&W), the 2.0 is something very, very good. My M&Ps now have round counts similar to my G19 --- 50K +. Both platforms (G17s / G19s and M&Ps) are going strong! I will continue to own and shoot both. Thanks for commenting and watching!
Very informative, thank you. I recently watched an interview with Chris Costa talking about his custom M&P Pro and it certainly seems to be a great weapon. In your opinion, how does the M&P 45 compare to some of the other similar semi's on the market. Especially in regard to recoil and being able to get the gun back on target quickly?
The M&P .45 is very nice and depnding on the size of your hands and your technique it can be very effective. The Glock 21 is also very nice. I prefer and shoot the 9mm M&P betterand faster but you wouldnt be dissapointed with the .45...I would note that many people like Costa, Larry Vickers, Travis Haley, Kyle Defoor (to name a few) shoot 9mms. Shot placement and hits on target count...
You will like it...Its very nice but needs a better trigger. The stock trigger is just so so...And, without the Apex RAM, the trigger reset stinks. Trigger fixes will run around $100 and once that is done it's a very nice gun. The gun in this video has close to 30,000 rounds through it and its still going strong. Thanks for watching...
I ordered the Apex COMP and RAM, it should be here tomorrow. Any issues w/ accuracy at distance? That's the only downside I've read about them. In 3 gun (what I bought it for) they have steel at distances out to 50 yards. Other than that I'm excited to get it, lil bumped about the trigger that's needed, but my shield already has the DCAEK, and all of my bolt guns have custom triggers. Just part of the game I'd guess.
I have no specific experience terms of durability of the swm&p .40 pistols. Ive shot them but cannot tell you about their life. On the other hand I've owned several o'clock 40s both the G22 the G 23 and the G 35. I shot tens of thousands of rounds through the Glock .40 pistols with no issues. durability was not a problem to me. I did use a heavy duty steel recoil slide assembly and replaced the recoil guide spring every 5000 rounds. As you know very few people shoot high-volumes of ammo.
The wear is from presentaions from the holster. I only use Kydex. A leather holster may not wear the finish like the hard kydex. The Glock finish is superior in my oppinion. The exterior wear on the frame doesn't affect the way the gun shoots and operates.
My cost has been about $150-$180 per 1000 rounds. (That is an average as about half of the total round count has been reloads). A few grand give or take.
I just bought this pistol today, have to wait a week to pick it up though. That's the RI law :( I hope it lasts as long as yours has. I have the 9c , 22c, and the 15-22 already.
MATT BURGESS better stock up while you can. cause if that law passes you'll be paying a buck a round for a 30round mag instead of $10... Speaking as one who lives in MA
MATT BURGESS haha how do you think i feel. i'm in california and active leo, i have to wait 10 days if i don't have my captain sign a form. i'd rather not have my name go across his desk for any reason so i just wait lol.
In general I shoot about 1000 rounds a month. Sometimes more. An expensive habit! I do reload and that cuts the cost significantly. Roughly 15$ per 100 rounds.
I was referring to the part in the video where you mention the paint coming off of the captured spring and guide rod assembly wearing away at 10,000 rounds...
Still love the 1.0 pro series and the 2.0 pro series. Never had any type of failure with them other than a take down lever wear out on one of the 1.0 pro's. You can't go wrong with a 1.0 or 2.0 pro series.
Anthony, I couldn’t agree more. I’ve had several MNP pistols over the years and they have been 100% reliable. The ergonomics fit great. I really like the low recoil impulse and the newest MNP metal version is exceptional. I appreciate you commenting and hope you will subscribe to the channel if you haven’t already. Stay safe.
@@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC I appreciate your response and great content sir. I recently got a flat dark earth optics ready 2.0 4inch compact with the flat face factory trigger. The results so far are outstanding and l highly suspect that the M & P line will all be optic ready with the newer flat face trigger in all model's. I don't mind the hinged triggers however the flat face stock offering is fantastic.
I tried to like the M&P but didn't so I bought another Glock. After seeing this I think I'll give it a try and put the Apex trigger parts in it. Thanks for posting this video!
The Apex Comp carry kit make a good gun much better. I like Glocks and own several. Have been shooting them for 20 years. However, three years ago i transitioned to the M&P platform and shoot it better because the ergonomic fit my hand better. This M&P Pro now has over 30,000 rounds through it. Running great. And Approaching the 50K I've got through my Glock G19 (Gen 2).
Sir, the answer to your question is, it depends On what you're wearing and or if you can carry openly. I prefer the size of the M P9C or the Glock 26. However, recently I have been carrying the MP shield which for me is the perfect size. I have video reviews of the M& P series, the Shiels as well as the Glocks Please check them out.
I have my M&P 40FS over 8,000 round, I have all the Apex stuff include the trigger. Only problem I had is slide stop, They break twice on me. SW send me the 3rd time with the improve slide stop. Also they send me a new recoil spring, Now I still use the old recoil spring. Still function perfect.
dang 21K??? + you sir just gained even more respect from me! I HAVE SHOT THOUSANDS OF ROUNDS THROUGH MY SIG P228 and about 1,5k out of my M&P9C and this is a NEW GUN! but 20K plus!!!? jebus!
Decent trainier but the trigger is so bad I wouldn't buy one. They feel good in the hand but the gunsmiths I know say the design is terrible. I hear APEX is designing a conversion kit for the MPs so I am waiting for that. Thanks for watching.
The new m&p9 fs doesn't need any trigger job i absalutely love it if your in the market for a full size m&p9 get the model with out the stainless stamped on the slide its the new model you tube m&p9 2013 some one shows the trigger I prefer it over the glock
I carry the M&P9 everyday 16 hours a day in concealed carry... Since the the grip is the same length as the regular M&P I would say that you could definitly carry it in concealed carry. But it depends on you and your tolerance the weight of that gun... if you are used to carrying a mirco compact .380 then jump to this gun then you probably wont like it. The extra length of the barrel will not affect the conceal ability of the gun.... just my two since... you can do it and do it well
I know a master grade IPSC shooter who has close to 30,000 rnds thru his 9L and the trigger is now like a CZ in single-action. And the reset if about half what my M&P is. So a DIY trigger-job really lol
Great video. I really appreciate your reviews. You might put a crawler of information on this video that the M&P's in 2013 upgraded there triggers in the manner that you modified your gun with the Apex trigger.
Brent, good suggestion on the annotations! I do appreciate that. I just got a new M&P Pro CORE (see video review on the channel). The "upgrade" you spoke of still don't meet my expectations. The trigger was very gritty and had no tactical "reset. I had the APEX RAM installed... better but to as good as Smith could do it they wanted to. Still I do love the way these guns fit my hands. Thanks for watching... hope you'll subscribe and check out other vids on the channel.
Thanks for posting the video review it is exciting to see how durable the M&P is. I have about 2700 rounds through mine right now and was thinking about that the other day and you answered my question...I've got a lot of life left! You mentioned you still have the factory spring in the gun did any other parts fail or have you replaced anything else along the way?
Nothing has failed... simply replaced the recoil spring and spring guide rod. Replacing the striker spring now this weekend. Gun now has 28,000 rounds. Running strong. Your gun at 2700 is just broken in. Main thing is to keep the gun well lubricated. Too many people don't oil the gun enough. I shoot about 300 rounds a week minimum. I lube the gun every time I shoot. Thanks for watching...
When you shoot a few hundred rounds at a time it does not take long to pass 20,000 rounds . Don't be afraid to shoot them. They can last a long time, many many years.
Just got my lifetime carry, now im looking at the m&p carry and range kit with the 9mm! Stoked! Makes me happy that everywhere i go ive heard and been told that M&P is an excellent choice! God Bless!
get a shield. I carry mine at all times when out of the house in a desantis IWB holster and a galco non reinforced 1.5" instructors belt and it's very comfortable to carry.
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I have done a full magazine well bevel job on my m&p and this really helps alleviate much of the scaring from magazine loading. Another big thing is treating it with FrogLube. By applying the FrogLube lube to the magazine well with heat it will help make this a high lubricity area. Great review and video.
Pretty fantastic results! Amazing what a well built polymer pistol is capable of. You've put more rounds through this single gun that many people shoot in their lifetime!
The service life of the Beretta M9 pistol is around 15,000 rounds - you've definitely exceeded that. Makes you wonder if the military will ever consider a switch.
Freggin love my Pro!!!! Shot a perfect LTC score just this past February. I also love upgrading my guns but I have yet to touch my M&P Pro... it's the only gun I've ever owned that I can't seem to weigh out any advantages on buying aftermarket parts. Not saying that the aftermarket parts such as APEX don't enhance or serve a purpose, I'm just really happy with the performance and don't need to change anything about it.
how does the fiber optic site hold up?
No problems here.
Great review. I've got 1000+ rounds through my M&P40 (I know, nothing like 21,000 haha). No malfunctions of any kind, feels great in the hand, very accurate, and fairly soft recoil (I think) for a 40. Reset is not so great on the trigger but I know where it is so I'm fine with it. Overall great gun, definitely a keeper.
Great video! I just purchased an Smith & Wesson M&P 9 last Thursday. I live in Maryland, so I have to wait for the mandatory state police check before I can actually get it home. I have been looking on youtube for reviews and I'm glad to see and hear how well you like yours and that these pistols have such longevity. Take care
I've had my Pro 9 about 10 days now and love it. First tried a 9mm in 1969, a Browning, but this is the first one I've been thrilled about. Pointability is great. My connection to S&W is almost umbilical in nature. I'm so glad this grand old company has pulled it off again, a real winner! Your videos are excellent. You make it look so easy, but I know there's a lot of hard work in making it look that way.
Happy to connect. These pistols are well made and smith backs up their products. Made in the USA and from my experience durable as hell. Thanks for watching.
If I shot 21,000 rounds through a gun, still loved the gun and not had to replace anything... and then the gun broke.
I think I'd buy another.
I have been thrilled with the results. It has been a fantastic gun and held up great!
Every shot out of your M&P is music to my ears. Nice trigger reset too. ;) Thx for posting.
I've got that same pistol but I have the CORE version and I love it. They are very good pistols one of my favorite.
Good for you... they are very solid guns and so far as durable as my Glock 17 and Glock 19 which both have 25,000 rounds through them.
Good point . I agree on the triggers... for me the key is the RAM. After years on the Glock, not having that distinct reset really was difficult to get used to. The RAM helped fix that. Agree with the comment on a block rear sight. But, I left this as is as it's a range and competition gun only, not a EDC. Put that money to sights for my EDC guns. Thanks for your comments!
There’s one manufacturer that I have never had a malfunction on any of their models and that’s S&W. 5906/4506/SW99/Shield/M&P9/9c/40/2.0/M&P15-22/15T/Pro Series/642/327PD...Not one failure in 25 years of owning, carrying, and shooting these guns on duty, off duty, and competition. Great job 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Agree, great products!
About 24,000 now. Replaced the recoil spring only. Still shoots great!
its good to know that these new guns can "go the distance" and still be reliable and accurate.
So I've been a Glock guy for so long but I do really like the ergos of the M&P and am planning to pick up the M&P Vtac this week. Thanks for the great reviews. Keep up the great work. Merry Christmas all.
Just brought home my new M&P 9 Pro Series today!!
Yes!!
Just put one on Layaway. Should be getting it by the end of the month. Really like these videos. They've given me insight as to what I'm getting. This will be my first 9mm, I have a Rock Island 1911 .45 at present. Aside from the M9 and my In-laws Glock, I haven't had much experience on other 9mm platforms. Your reviews have definitely made me feel confident in my purchase.
I love my M&P's my Pro 9mm has around 1,000rds, no issues, I just picked up a 9mm Compact and put 200rds through it without a n issue. The M&P feels great in my hands, I tried Glocks, but they dont fit me at all. I am sure people have had problems with M&P's, but everyone I shoot with has at least 1 model, and none of us has had a failure. the M&P line is the only polymer handgun I will own, I like all metal handguns. Other than my two M&P's I currently have a CZ 75B Omega, Sig P226 German Non Railed, Beretta M9, and a Browning Hi Power (my all time favorite).
Recoil is subjective. I have a video on the channel comparing the G17 and the MP 9mm... check that out. I love glocks and shot them for 20 years. Three years ago i transitioned to MPs because the fit my hands better. The felt recoil for me is less with the MP but some others say Glocks. Whatever works best for you...
Great videos. You are very informative and you know your stuff. I too, own the M&P pistol line. I have 3 M&P 9's one of which is the pro series, and 3 of the M&P .45's. I currently have 1 M&P 9 that has just about 15,000 rounds through it and it's amazingly still somewhat snug. Not a much bigger difference than my M&P 9's that have only 1,000-2,000 rounds through them. Smith&Wesson definitely makes quality. My M&P .45's have about 800 rounds through them and they are also flawless. I, being a gunsmith, inspect my firearms after every 2,000 rounds. The M&P's are an excellent pistol choice and my personal favorites. Although I own Glocks too.
Along with mixup98, this channel is one of the best gun channels on UA-cam. Thanks for the review.
Much appreciated. Hope you'll share the channel on FB or other media and invite folks to check us out.
Damn that's impressive. Go M&P!
Great video - the M&P 5" Pro is a dream in every way.
I'm up to 25,000 rounds and no issues from the M&P 9, haven't replaced a thing and all is still strong. I met a guy at the range where I go, and he has a Pro Series 9 which he claims to have 34,000 rounds through it without any problems. Not quite sure if it's true, but his firearm has ALOT more wear than my M&P and mine has 25,000.
just got mine, have yet to fire it but I've gotta say this gun feels perfect in your hands right outa the box
An excellent choice! I own two G19s and think they may be one of the best 9mm out there. I've shot thousands of rounds through my Gen 2 G19.... I've also done a review on my channel of the Gen 4 G19. There are hundreds of aftermarket parts for the G19 and they are very easy to work on. Buy high cap mags now! They will soon be unavailable. Thanks for watching...
Love the video sir! I have an MP Shield myself, and the trigger has a very nice crisp reset. I had heard that they were putting the Shield trigger in all the future MP pistols, but I'm not sure how accurate that statement is. I have been thinking about purchasing a full-size MP 9mm for quite some time, and I think this video finally convinced me. Hopefully in a month or so I'll have a new MP to add the the arsenal. Keep up the videos!
Dude great shooting and killer video, I have the M&P 9mm Pro in 4.25 and it is really a great gun! Hope to catch more of your vids, keep up the good work!
This gun is part of our inventory, my wife loves it she owns one and it is by far one of the best guns I've ever shot
Sorry for the delay in responding. been doing lots of teaching and having a hard time responding to all the comments. Like you I think the M&Ps are super guns! The Shield in 9mm is rapidly becoming my choice for EDC. Very small and yet easy to shoot. Hope you'll check some of the other vids and share with your friends and family. All the best...
Great follow up review, thanks for making it. This will probably be my next pistol.
Thanks for your comments. It's a very nice gun!
Looking at this platform this week (just got to hold it to know if it is me). Quite rare in this part of the world. IPSC is the only game in town & dominated by CZ SPO1 (production). It is good to know the M&P still going strong after 20,000 rounds
I get it... yes as you suggested perhaps it is likely that is intended to remind folks to replace the spring and guide assembly. I wanted to run mine to failure but it never failed. So I did replace the whole assembly after 21,000. Now I do it whenever the pait has fully worn away. Thanks for watching and commenting.
Yet another outstanding review. Simply outstanding. Fine work.
Thank you sir. Hope you'll share the channel with friends and family.
Mine is just about to go 5000 rounds, still going strong no dramas at all. I use predominantly reloads, 130 ish power factor for IPSC competition. Love to see the .22 version reviewed if you can get ya hands on one. In New Zealand you are only allowed to shoot a pistol on a "certified" range, no carry, not even in your residence. Thought you guys might like to know how lucky you are. Another enjoyable clip.
Have about 3000 rds thru our M&P 22 compact. no issues at all. still looks brand new also.
i really like my M&P. it was a great first semi auto pistol.
Wow, that is great to hear. Thank you for watching and commenting.
Yeah m&p will go down in history as a classic series. Now if only the shops can restock!!!
Great question... not sure other than production demands. Always good to have 10 or so in storage as insurance for hard to get mags like these.
That's incredible! Congratulations.
ATEi, utilizes many of the stock components (at least the trigger job I got done) and polishes them. The trigger is VERY smooth. The break and reset are crisp (the break is not like "glass" but it's crisp).
He reduces the reset to about half.
Range kit is a great value...you get three mags, holster and mag pouches. I think it's one of the best values on the market. Because the SW M&P mags are so hard to come-by I tell my students to grab a range kit if its fairly priced.
As usual a great video from you.
I love my M&P's. - I do own a M&P .45 and you sre correct - it is a wonderful gun.
Thanks for all your video's.
I have a ruger .22 mk II target pistol that I've put in excess of 100,000 rounds through and it's still clicking along just fine. Every time we take it out we go through at least a thousand rounds minimum. The only thing I've ever done other than clean it was purchase two extra mags. Probably could not afford to do that with 9mm but it's fun to plink with the rimfire and all my friends enjoy shooting the pistol because of the low recoil.
A .22 is a great gun to learn marksmanship skills (trigger press, sight picture, sight alignment, grip and stance). I prefer a Ruger 22/45 or Marklll or a Browning Buckmark as those triggers are so much better than the SR22. However, the SR22 would work fine. Start with the targets at no more than 3 yards until she gets a consistent group then move to 5, 7 and 10. Good luck ...
A .22 is a great way to start. I am not a fan of the M&P .22 trigger but it will serve as a trianer and be inexpensive to shoot. And if the M&P is the main platform you two will be using, then the M&P 22 makese sense to me!
M&P is a GREAT gun on MANY levels.
Ergonomics bieng the BEST.
Longevity as you are pointing out.
Safety...I prefer a mag disconnect AND sear disconnect.
(Many DO NOT like these features.)
Good looks....
I appreciate your opinion and video.
Hopefully S&W ponied up a freebie for torturing thier product in such a fine manner.
Best wishes.
BillMcGirr Thanks for watching. I own several M&Ps and do like them very much. Mine do not have the mag disconnect or external safety as I don't care for that set up. However the fact they provide both options is a strong selling point.
Sir, all I can say is it depends on your clothing and the way you carry. The 9c works very well for me, especially with apendix carry. I'm doing a review of the Comp-Tac 2 OClock holster with both the MP full size and MP 9c this weekend. Watch it and maybe you'll get a sense of what might work for you. Hope that helps!
Apex dot com. Forward set trigger. The most important thing is to get the RAM part installed (reset assist mechanism). That part alone will make a huge difference, especially if you've trained to ride the trigger through the reset process. Hope this helps.
I have a ways to go to catch up to 21k rounds. I'm at about 2600 by my best estimate. I was pleased to hear that your M&P held up with that many rounds. By the way the 5" pro9 was the gun I choose for my first handgun. When I rent a Glock17 at my range, I find I shoot it way worse than my M&P. I was 99.5% sure I was going to buy a Glock17 but walked out with an M&P.I'm happy I did. Good video.
My M&P has the best DAO trigger I've ever used. It's the stock trigger. It's a 2012 or 2013 model. I take up the slack with very little resistance, then come to a spot where the resistance increases. Apply 5-6 lbs of pressure gives a very crisp trigger break, much like on a SA pistol. I really like that trigger.
I've never had a failure of any kind so far with it, but I have nowhere near 21,000 rounds thu it.
Tough choice. I've been shooting glocks for 20 years but have recently fallen for the MPs. The ergonomics for the MP are better for me. For combat tested shooting... Glocks have proven their value. Glocks are so freaking durable there is no doubt they will last. Both have been 100% reliable for me with factory ammo. Glocks are easier to work on but the feel of the M&P is just wonderful. You can't go wrong with the G34 or the MP pro.
The m&p line is some of my favorite guns that I have
Mine too
Back when I used to shoot the .40 Ammo was far less expensive but yes I shoot a lot. I also reload which dramatically reduces the cost of the ammo. Unfortunately whenever someone like you adds up the cost that I spent shooting I have to hide that comment from my wife!Thanks for watching!
M&P stands for "Better than Glock" ;)
Glock has been around for 20 years longer, has been thoroughly vetted in actual field use and in police holsters. In the mid-2000s, out of frustration, S&W's CEO threw a Glock 17 on the S&W engineers' table and said, "Just copy the damned thing," which S&W did, and had to pay Glock some cash for the patent infringement. M&P stands for, "2 decades late to the dance."
Well sort of... the grip angle on the M&P is better for me. M&P added flexibility of back straps (took glock a good deal of competition until they came up with some modular options). The 2.0 is an improvement and thanks to Greg Grutter (good friend and chief Instructor at S&W), the 2.0 is something very, very good. My M&Ps now have round counts similar to my G19 --- 50K +. Both platforms (G17s / G19s and M&Ps) are going strong! I will continue to own and shoot both. Thanks for commenting and watching!
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Glock sued s&w over the sigma series. The m&p pro shits on the glock.
the m&p is a glock after glockstore
The key is to never add up the cost of the ammo... just keep practicing!
Very informative, thank you. I recently watched an interview with Chris Costa talking about his custom M&P Pro and it certainly seems to be a great weapon. In your opinion, how does the M&P 45 compare to some of the other similar semi's on the market. Especially in regard to recoil and being able to get the gun back on target quickly?
The M&P .45 is very nice and depnding on the size of your hands and your technique it can be very effective. The Glock 21 is also very nice. I prefer and shoot the 9mm M&P betterand faster but you wouldnt be dissapointed with the .45...I would note that many people like Costa, Larry Vickers, Travis Haley, Kyle Defoor (to name a few) shoot 9mms. Shot placement and hits on target count...
Nice, vid, thanks for sharing. I'm picking up an M&P pro this weekend.
You will like it...Its very nice but needs a better trigger. The stock trigger is just so so...And, without the Apex RAM, the trigger reset stinks. Trigger fixes will run around $100 and once that is done it's a very nice gun. The gun in this video has close to 30,000 rounds through it and its still going strong. Thanks for watching...
I ordered the Apex COMP and RAM, it should be here tomorrow.
Any issues w/ accuracy at distance? That's the only downside I've read about them. In 3 gun (what I bought it for) they have steel at distances out to 50 yards.
Other than that I'm excited to get it, lil bumped about the trigger that's needed, but my shield already has the DCAEK, and all of my bolt guns have custom triggers. Just part of the game I'd guess.
No issues with accuracy. I like 124 or 147 grain loads better than 115 in the 5" MP pro. Think you will be very happy with it. Good luck!
beautiful weapon
I concur W...S&W M&P's flat out rock!...don't think there is another pistol out that feels as great in the hand...thanks for the vid buddy...
Good choice... one of my favorites next to the Glock 19. Enjoy!
Cool POV! Thanks for the review! Very knowledgeable!
A few hundred were the Winchester Ranger NATO 124 grn that some say is a +p round.
I have no specific experience terms of durability of the swm&p .40 pistols. Ive shot them but cannot tell you about their life. On the other hand I've owned several o'clock 40s both the G22 the G 23 and the G 35. I shot tens of thousands of rounds through the Glock .40 pistols with no issues. durability was not a problem to me. I did use a heavy duty steel recoil slide assembly and replaced the recoil guide spring every 5000 rounds. As you know very few people shoot high-volumes of ammo.
very nice update
what's your maintenance schedule (rnds) for lube and cleaning? And what type lube/oil do you use? Thanks
The wear is from presentaions from the holster. I only use Kydex. A leather holster may not wear the finish like the hard kydex. The Glock finish is superior in my oppinion. The exterior wear on the frame doesn't affect the way the gun shoots and operates.
Thanks for a very good video. I have resently buy an M&P9. And i love it:)
My cost has been about $150-$180 per 1000 rounds. (That is an average as about half of the total round count has been reloads). A few grand give or take.
Great videos, very helpful and informative!
I just bought this pistol today, have to wait a week to pick it up though. That's the RI law :( I hope it lasts as long as yours has. I have the 9c , 22c, and the 15-22 already.
MATT BURGESS Sucks to live outside america doesnt it?
Yes, it's crazy! Now there talking about magazine round limits. Like Massachusetts, they want to limit magazines to 10 rounds.
MATT BURGESS better stock up while you can. cause if that law passes you'll be paying a buck a round for a 30round mag instead of $10...
Speaking as one who lives in MA
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MATT BURGESS haha how do you think i feel. i'm in california and active leo, i have to wait 10 days if i don't have my captain sign a form. i'd rather not have my name go across his desk for any reason so i just wait lol.
In general I shoot about 1000 rounds a month. Sometimes more. An expensive habit! I do reload and that cuts the cost significantly. Roughly 15$ per 100 rounds.
I was referring to the part in the video where you mention the paint coming off of the captured spring and guide rod assembly wearing away at 10,000 rounds...
You have to find the right holster... i use a crossbreed style of holster that i bought off ebay for $40 and got in less than a week... it works great
The RAM is a must have upgrade to any M&P that can accept it.
Still love the 1.0 pro series and the 2.0 pro series. Never had any type of failure with them other than a take down lever wear out on one of the 1.0 pro's. You can't go wrong with a 1.0 or 2.0 pro series.
Anthony, I couldn’t agree more. I’ve had several MNP pistols over the years and they have been 100% reliable. The ergonomics fit great. I really like the low recoil impulse and the newest MNP metal version is exceptional. I appreciate you commenting and hope you will subscribe to the channel if you haven’t already. Stay safe.
@@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC I appreciate your response and great content sir. I recently got a flat dark earth optics ready 2.0 4inch compact with the flat face factory trigger. The results so far are outstanding and l highly suspect that the M & P line will all be optic ready with the newer flat face trigger in all model's. I don't mind the hinged triggers however the flat face stock offering is fantastic.
Thanks for the vid Now I definitely want a M&P over the glock
I tried to like the M&P but didn't so I bought another Glock. After seeing this I think I'll give it a try and put the Apex trigger parts in it. Thanks for posting this video!
The Apex Comp carry kit make a good gun much better. I like Glocks and own several. Have been shooting them for 20 years. However, three years ago i transitioned to the M&P platform and shoot it better because the ergonomic fit my hand better. This M&P Pro now has over 30,000 rounds through it. Running great. And Approaching the 50K I've got through my Glock G19 (Gen 2).
Sir, the answer to your question is, it depends On what you're wearing and or if you can carry openly. I prefer the size of the M P9C or the Glock 26. However, recently I have been carrying the MP shield which for me is the perfect size. I have video reviews of the M& P series, the Shiels as well as the Glocks Please check them out.
Great video with much appreciated information !!👍😀
Glad it was helpful!
Excellent review sir
I have my M&P 40FS over 8,000 round, I have all the Apex stuff include the trigger. Only problem I had is slide stop, They break twice on me. SW send me the 3rd time with the improve slide stop. Also they send me a new recoil spring, Now I still use the old recoil spring. Still function perfect.
dang 21K??? + you sir just gained even more respect from me! I HAVE SHOT THOUSANDS OF ROUNDS THROUGH MY SIG P228 and about 1,5k out of my M&P9C and this is a NEW GUN! but 20K plus!!!? jebus!
Thank you!
This is my first pistol and I love it!!
Decent trainier but the trigger is so bad I wouldn't buy one. They feel good in the hand but the gunsmiths I know say the design is terrible. I hear APEX is designing a conversion kit for the MPs so I am waiting for that. Thanks for watching.
Just found your channel. Excellent stuff! Subscribed brother.
The new m&p9 fs doesn't need any trigger job i absalutely love it if your in the market for a full size m&p9 get the model with out the stainless stamped on the slide its the new model you tube m&p9 2013 some one shows the trigger I prefer it over the glock
Spare magazines for the M&P series are difficult to find . . . at least in my area of Louisiana & Texas. The M&Ps are excellent pistols.
I carry the M&P9 everyday 16 hours a day in concealed carry... Since the the grip is the same length as the regular M&P I would say that you could definitly carry it in concealed carry. But it depends on you and your tolerance the weight of that gun... if you are used to carrying a mirco compact .380 then jump to this gun then you probably wont like it. The extra length of the barrel will not affect the conceal ability of the gun.... just my two since... you can do it and do it well
I know a master grade IPSC shooter who has close to 30,000 rnds thru his 9L and the trigger is now like a CZ in single-action. And the reset if about half what my M&P is. So a DIY trigger-job really lol
You have real snow and hand guns!!! You lucky so and so. :)
Nope, same barrel. Still running like a champ!
Great video. I really appreciate your reviews. You might put a crawler of information on this video that the M&P's in 2013 upgraded there triggers in the manner that you modified your gun with the Apex trigger.
Brent, good suggestion on the annotations! I do appreciate that. I just got a new M&P Pro CORE (see video review on the channel). The "upgrade" you spoke of still don't meet my expectations. The trigger was very gritty and had no tactical "reset. I had the APEX RAM installed... better but to as good as Smith could do it they wanted to. Still I do love the way these guns fit my hands. Thanks for watching... hope you'll subscribe and check out other vids on the channel.
Thanks for posting the video review it is exciting to see how durable the M&P is. I have about 2700 rounds through mine right now and was thinking about that the other day and you answered my question...I've got a lot of life left! You mentioned you still have the factory spring in the gun did any other parts fail or have you replaced anything else along the way?
Nothing has failed... simply replaced the recoil spring and spring guide rod. Replacing the striker spring now this weekend. Gun now has 28,000 rounds. Running strong. Your gun at 2700 is just broken in. Main thing is to keep the gun well lubricated. Too many people don't oil the gun enough. I shoot about 300 rounds a week minimum. I lube the gun every time I shoot. Thanks for watching...
what kind of lube do you use? oil? grease?
the factory fiber-optic sight is also a hi-viz. much better to go with a TFX or the new TFX PRO. I love them on my M&Ps!
When you shoot a few hundred rounds at a time it does not take long to pass 20,000 rounds . Don't be afraid to shoot them. They can last a long time, many many years.