The Fender® Wayne Kramer Stratocaster® | Fender
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- Опубліковано 5 кві 2011
- Seminal MC5 founder Wayne Kramer and Fender's Justin Norvell discuss the influence of the MC5, Wayne's playing philosophy, and the story behind his famous and iconic stars-and-stripes Strat that was recently replicated and reissued in a limited run by Fender.
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Most underrated guitarist in existence on all levels.
In the Mc5s prime Wayne Kramer must have been one of the coolest rock n roll stars ever: he looked great, he had great hair, moved great on stage, played the most exciting guitar ever and, as this clip shows, had a great looking guitar!
Beefheart1 yes he had some serious stage moves, as had Sonic smith and Rob Tyner..a feature of the MC5 that’s often overlooked! The way they rocked in unison was unequaled at the time
Great 💥
Beefheart1 more thane good ⚡️
i realize I am kinda off topic but does anybody know a good place to watch newly released movies online ?
@Justin Jesse Flixportal =)
That was one ferocious band, inimitable.
I saw the mc5 every friday and Saturday at the grande ballroom in detroit
They didn’t play the grande every Friday and Saturda! The Grande shows were typically a month-ish apart. If you saw the MC5 every weekend that meant you were driving to Lansing, Saginaw, Mount Clemens, Ann Arbor every weekend.
The guitar he's playing in the live clips of the MC5 at Tartar Field is a Dan Armstrong. One helluva tone came out of that guitar...his fingers also played an integral part in his signature sound as well.
Mark C - 4 my 2¢ he should have left it clear ...
And in the German videos he plays a Epiphone. Amazing tone out of what ever he picks up. And No Pedals either.
@Markc thank you I've been wondering about that
This is a seriously good guitar, i've got one. After setting it how it like it to feel it's awesome, set very low, no choke off from 12 - 21frets, very light in weight, nice feel to the neck for a 7.25 radius, smooth satin feel to the neck laquer (not sticky) pups sound very good and disticntive, plent of crisp highs and 2 & 4 position is awesome mix with the humbucker. Not a fan of the road worn idea but this is an exception, adds to the vibe. Yes I am a Wayne Kramer /MC5 nut as well, KOTJMF
Deniz Tek, guitarist for Australian band Radio Birdman, grew up in Michigan and knew MC5 and Stooges. He played with the reformed MC5 in 2004 or so and says Kramer told him he put his flag Strat in storage when the band broke up and doesn't know what happened to it. He did go to jail for a couple of years. Others say he sold it when into drugs. Only Kramer knows. Incidentally, Tek bought Fred Smith's Epiphone Crestwood off him in 1973 after MC5 died. Says it came in a case with MC5 stencilled on it. Tek played and recorded with it and still has it today. He finally retired it from the stage 10 years ago after replacing three necks across the years and losing so much paint it had tone problems when the wood got sweaty.
I was texting back and forth with Wayne a few years ago and he said that in the 70's he "tried to sell it but couldn't, so [he] painted it. Then it sold". He added, "Interesting to me, all these years later, that the stars and stripes is now so iconic but was viewed as passe so shortly after KOTJ".
Wayne is the only one playing an Epiphone in the video footage. Fred Sonic had a Rickenbacker with what looks like Gibson large humbuckers in it.
@@larryn2682 Epiphone is in the German TV videos, at Wayne State's Tatar Field it is a painted Dan Armstrong lucite guitar. Lucite was trade name of DuPont clear plastic if IRC.
@Larry N. The footage you refer to was filmed later in the piece - perhaps on or just previous to that fatal European tour
the Epiphone D. Tek has was certainly Smith’s.You can see it in some of the earlier footage. Wayne was playing an Epiphonein the clips you refer to, but not a Crestwood, which was their top model with 3 hum buckets and a Bigsby tremolo.✌️
Wayne Kramer es un excelente guitarrista que descanse en paz 🌹
Wayne is the reason I play a Wilshire
What a God damn legend. I really appreciate this little gem of a video ya got here, Fender. Smooches!
0:32-0:59
Justin Norvell really knows what he’s talking about!!!
I own and love this guitar. It's very unique as far as tone. The neck is real nice and love the feel. I love this guitar.
Happy Birthday Wayne!!
Hey Rickenbacker, make a signature Fred Smith model
carmengiaa65 they dont know who he is,sadly enough
Hell yeah
Really, Ernie Ball should definitely do one as well.
Anybody know if Wayne still has the original? I'd imagine given his rough history, his original is long gone...
I was just a kid in Australia during the '60's Americana era but damn did i love it and live it during that time and through the '70's and beyond. I need to have one of these badly 😆. ✌️🙂
Jeff in Oz
Notice the statement on the guitar "This tool kills hate". Reminiscent of Woody Guthrie's message on his guitar which said "This machine kills fascists". Punk meets folk. Both artists where the message was more important than the money.
Wayne hates America..and is a punk bitch
@@hipgroove68 bastard
wpl....Ironic,isn't it? Both messages have been turned upside down by today's "leftists" who now want to eliminate freedom of speech in the name of dumb-ass ideas like "safe spaces," "trigger warnings," and "micro aggression." So called "anti-fascists in masks behaving like the "Brownshirts."
@@hipgroove68 He actually says in the interview that the guitar 'claims [his] patriotism despite what [his] country was doing at the time', which many actual vets will tell you was some terrible shit, despite what armchair revisionists try to make of it these days.
@@hipgroove68 Wayne is a punk but he was never a bitch. Maybe you just can't handle the 5.
Wayne Kramer Should be revered in his hometown, I Believe he is the most important Guitar Player of first half of 20th century
he the king baby, and iggy is the prince.
Does the original still exist?
Poor Detroit, from having produced the best cars, and some of the best rock and roll music, and of course Motown, to what it is today. We only realize now, how great a city it was, and how much talent resided within the Greater Detroit area. How did this happen? How did we allow it to happen? Wayne Kramer for President!
Dems, and globalists killed Detroit.
I'm guessing that the tape covering the bridge(b/w clips 2:08) is so he doesn't shred his hand. Wayne and Fred...the fucking best!
when are they going to come out with a Paul Revere and the Raiders model, the world's most patriotic rock band!
CHECK OUT THE FOOT MOVEMENT OF WAYNE HERE, IT IS LIKE JAMES BROWN WITH A GUITAR, CAN YOU DIG IT MAN, MY BROTHERS FROM LINCOLN PARK HIGH SCHOOL, IN MICHIGAN, GREAT , COUSIN FIGEL
Good luck finding one of these ..
Saw one of these Strats when Guitar Center moved to Wilmington, DE in 19014. Didn't get it, but several years later I did see a used one and I grabbed that one. One pup change, but it looked good.
WHAT A DUO HERE, THE GREAT WAYNE, AND THE GREAT DWEEZIL, CAN IT GET ANY BETTER, COUSIN FIGEL
RIP Brother Wayne
rambling rose is a great song
love that move in 1:23...sick guitar too:):):)
He was inspired by James Brown on that one. Classic James Brown stage move!
Glad you survive the early years. Enjoy.
this is a cool guitar! Wayne sounded best when playing the wilshire
Yes and he also plays a california cutaway(i think its called) Gibson
Absolutely
Gotta love the Epiphones ;)
I’m working a Gretsch “beast” BST-1000, which has a shorter scale like Fred’s Ricky and sorta looks like a cross between an Epi (like Wayne’s) and a Rick. Dual mini humbuckers (bitchin’ sound through a good valve Marshall), super low action and real fast and slinky thanks to the shorter scale.
The general production style and content of this video is really awesome, especially when compared to the "Celebrating 60 Years of the Fender Telecaster" video that has been posted a few times.
May I request more like this, less like that.
You could make your own like Brother Wayne did.
It's just got a humbucker in the mid position.
I fucken LOVE The MC5!!!!!!
Well the bridge is hardtail rather than the usual tremolo strat bridge. Also the headstock is a little bigger than the normal. But the highlight of this instrument is obviously the SHS combination. I think it's brilliant idea and should be done more.
Saw this Strat at Sam Ash marked down several years ago. Didn't know who Wayne Kramer was and I passed on it. Figured it was another of Fender's failed obscure artist model that didn't sell well. I wish I would have bought it now since they are nearly impossible to find!
It probably didn't sell well! A little obscure for the average John Mayer worshipping Strat player. Wayne sounded best playing his Epiphone Wilshire to be honest. Hence why he put a humbucker in his Strat. I doubt he used it that much. I've yet to find a clip of him actually playing it. No...there is some silent footage I think. Anyway. If he loved it that much....why wasn't he playing it at the soundcheck. I mean who plays one guitar at a sound check then swaps for the gig? I like Wayne but I'd take a lot of what he says with a pinch of salt. The original is gone...supposedly sold for drugs. The one he is holding is a reissue.
Wayne kramer, un grande de verdad!
Brother Wayne Kramer and the rest of the 5 belong in that Cleveland building that claims to be Rock & Roll hall of fame, damn shame they are not.
An American flag guitar made in Mexico
classic!! lol
Unlike most actual U.S. flags one sees, which are, of course, made in China.
It's okay. Your leader Trump, will build you a wall. And they will pay for it? ???????? Ha ha ha
Why am I not surprised by that..?
transtremm Nothing is made here anymore. Ask Trump! All Trump products are made overseas.
Well spoken man
Wayne Kramer rules!
Pardon the tangent somewhat related to the focus of this video, but I just want to say that Rob Tyner is one of the most under-appreciated frontmen of Rock history!
Now, as for Kramer, he and the late Fred "Sonic" Smith are, arguably amongst the greatest, if not THE greatest, guitar tandems in Rock history!
No Mc5 means no Stooges. No Stooges, no Sex Pistols. No Sex Pistols, no UK Punk. No UK Punk, I very much doubt the NYC "Punk" scene (slightly preceding the Pistols formation) would have ever made the transition out of CBGS and Max's and into the mainstream.
Of course, the underground stream of Rock n Roll links many artists of a similar aesthetic - all the way back to Sun records and beyond, - but, as far as the original UK Punk scene is concerned, you can trace the most overt influences - in sequential order - somewhat like this: Chuck Berry, Little Richard, Gene Vincent, Eddie Cochran, The Stones, The Kinks, The Who, The Small Faces, The Velvet Underground, The Doors, The Mc5, The Stooges, The Faces, Hawkwind, The Pink Fairies, T.Rex, David Bowie, Mott The Hoople, Roxy Music, The New York Dolls, Motorhead and (perhaps to a lesser degree than the other twenty one) Dr. Feelgood. These twenty two artists, - in various combinations of import dependent on which band you're thinking of, - were the main bands that fed into the inspiration for The Sex Pistols, The Clash, The Damned, The Stranglers and The Jam: probably the best, and most Important, five bands of first generation Uk Punk.
Of course, these UK bands all had other influences but, if you were only allowed to take those twenty two bands I've listed as the blue prints, I'm pretty sure you'd still end up with something damn near to what we did end up with in 75 / 76 in regards the sound and philosophy of The Pistols et al.
Much of the remaining influences I've alluded to above came more to the fore in UK Post Punk: Captain Beefheart, Syd Barrett, Prog artists like Van Der Graaf Generator / Peter Hammil, Free Jazz, Roots and Dub Reggae, Zappa, Lou Reed, Krautrock, Iggy Pop, Nico, John Cale, Eno, Avant Garde noise, Yoko Ono etc, but only a couple of those original twenty two influences on UK Punk I've listed above remained as influences on UK Post Punk (ie: The Velvet Underground and David Bowie).
Interestingly, two of the CBGB / Max's era NYC "Punk" bands (thus pre-dating the formation of The Pistols in the UK as previously stated) made more sense in the UK as Post Punk bands. Both The Talking Heads and Television were both much more relevant and, therefore, much more popular in the UK in the Post Punk era than they ever were in the Punk era per-se. Likewise bands such as Pere Ubu and Devo: these two bands also pre-dated UK Punk but only really gained an audience in the UK in the Post Punk era.
Funnily enough, the Mc5 were never really a direct or core influence on The Sex Pistols, who were more acolytes of The Stooges if we're talking Detroit. However, the Mc5 were likely more important to both The Clash and The Damned than The Stooges were. (In regards to The Stranglers and The Jam, I doubt either the Mc5 or The Stooges were direct influences on the sound of either of the two and, other than the fact that the two Detroit bands were prior links in the chain I've outlined above - and thus were predecessors to the same general strain of Rock n Roll these British bands now belonged - I think The Mc5 and The Stooges were of lesser immediate import here).
You left out one very important band from Detroit, death. Three brothers from Detroit formed the band death.
Lemmy said he wanted a band along lines of MC5 & Stooges when he formed Motorhead, one of his last Hawkwind shows was in Detroit @ Ford Auditorium and next day busted by Canada customs and fired by Brock & Turner.
You left out the Buzzcocks, that invalidates your whole statement.
Yesss i have this guitar!!!🇺🇲🎸❤🥰😍
..often overlooked - the stars and stripes on Wayne's guitar, are upside down. The accepted notion of a nation at war, is an inverted national ensign. Wayne's own battles were his own. However, the nation that he loved and he fought for, continues on its downward spiral. Greetings from the South Pacific KOTJ.
If you guys love Wayne Kramer, then definitely check out the new book he is featured in called 108 Rock Star Guitars. Like the book's FaceBook page or follow @108RSGuitars for more updates on Wayne and the book.
A nice video indeed!!!!
In regard to the reference made in the previous comment, go to You Tube and punch in... Stix and Stoned. Rouge Plant Blues. View the (7:18) version of this song. GREAT JAM AND KILLER VIDEO!!! Might explain why Wayne and Sonic Wanted OUT of that area?
Legend!
TOTALLY HILARIOUS....
Great lookin Strat ! What kind of guitar are you using @ tarter field ?
He didn't say inducted, he said "nominated to the...". They've been nominated, in 2003. It took The Stooges 8 nominations over 15 years to be inducted.
I wanted him to demonstrate playing the guitar for us...
So what year was Wayne's strat?
I was at their last show. New Years Eve 72
Epiphone Wilshire
Wayne played a Wiltshire later on sometimes, but Fred’s (later Deniz Tek’s) as a Crestwood.
nice
@OfficialHollow
I saw your comment at 0.42 and didnt stop laughing till the end of the video....
How about a commemorative Fender Duo sonic for Fred 'Sonic' Smith, whose nickname was because he used a duo sonic? Come on, Fender!
Never saw Fred with a duo. Clip link? His moniker didn’t come from that anyhow.
Don't forget MOTORHEAD
LEMMY based it on
The Mc5
A genius.
It seems that the neck and the bridge pickups are not the usual Fender single coils at all. Maybe the previous owner had changed them.
, teisco Del Rey all the way! H o w d y from Dallas Texas!
I like 🔥
@zosothedestroyer Great album, great song!!
Forever wayne kramer ❤❤🔥🔥🤘🏽🤘🏽✌🏽✌🏽 😢🥲
dude played a Whilshire mostly - I thought. Should have played a LP standard
+DrHogfan or maybe a Kramer
There is late 1967 MC5 local access television footage of Wayne on a Les Paul.
btw fenders are way expensive and not always worth it but i love my jazzmaster
Should've bought this guitar when I had the chance 😒
HOLY SHIT YES
I still believe the sonics were the first punk rock band
I can stand still for that ;)
Watched this to find out why they put a humbucker in the middle... I want my 5:25 back
Why this guitare IS discontinued, stopped ?
The signer of the bands the dictators clearly have been inspired by MC5
And he played with DKT/MC5.
The dictators suck dik
I WENT FROM GREASER TO HIPPY BECAUSE OF MC5,.
Waynes toe move.lol
This guitar reminds me of the Gibson Byrdland guitars Ted Nugent plays. W/O the feedback. LOL
I heard wayne said somewhere the original wasn't even a fender.he couldn't pay for it
By then he could afford it. They got a huge record advance from capital.
if i want my guitar to look like that then i only change the pickguard, and paint the headstock
Wayne once said in an interview that he traded the original in the early 70's for drugs.
great video about the inspiration of the strat.
how about what is sounds like? Duh!
Only S-H-S configured Strat I've ever seen.
The wave to paint your guitar happened here in Michigan right after we all saw Claptons' SG. Some of us painted our guitars with water colors so we could change the art when the image wore out from sweat. When Wayne painted his originally it was a standard three pickup Strat. He used to wing it into the crowd, and a roadie would come out and fetch it. He really tried to smash it and the old girl just kept on ticking. My little band opened for the MC5 numerous venues around south east Michigan. I had hacked a humbucker into the face of my Strat in 68, so I could get better feedback response through the big West Amps we were using. I'm not saying Mr. Kramer saw my guitar, but my humbucker was in the middle well before he did his and he for sure saw it at Mt. Holly or the Grande. There is just a second in this vid where you can see the original, at 2:09. That said, there was no equal to the 5 at that time, they crumbled every venue, they were just a sonic hurricane. Just a true story from the memory banks,,,
He says he used it, but no proof. Pictures from that show don't show it. Shows the Epiphone and Gibson.
The proof is he used fender guitars at every performance
I feel that, god damn seymour duncan facebook wasting our time
Nearly 30 years playing and I've never heard of this guy. Does that mean you can make me a signature guitar, and send me a prototype every month for 16 years? :o)
3Deity "Nearly 30 years" and you've never heard of the MC5??? You need to take a few weeks off playing to think about this, then quit altogether.
Ignorance is never something to crow about, my friend.
Didn’t know you were the center of the universe and the measure of what matters. Most musicians have heard of the MC5. You will be just respected less by musicians for not knowing pretty fundamental popular music history.
@Silvertone1481 Yeah kid, come back when you've grown up and learnt some manners - if you read through the comments below you might learn something. I've been in music for nearly 30 years and I've never heard of MC5 until this video and I grew up surrounded by punks in the heart of it in London - so what do you know?!
These are from Mexico.
DIDNT KNOW YOU WERE A STRAT MAN....
16 years in production? Numerous paint jobs????
What is so difficult about getting the paint job right. Looks like corporate Amerika has won the revolution and marketed the rebellion. Hopefully Wayne is the only one who comes out of this with some grace. F*** Rolling Stone and their 100 guitars of all time twonk.
"the 70s punk revolution, the sex pistols the clash et. cetera" he doesnt know what the fuck he is talking about. the stooges, suicide, new york dolls, velvet underground, the ramones, the dictators, they all predate the clash and the sex pistols. punk rock started when iggy pop saw the doors at a university dance in 1967.
although some might say that little richard was the first punk rocker, I wont argue with that
or maybe some will say the early garage bands were the start of punk like the sonics, or the monks
Lol, keep pressing '5'.
Eh.
Seriously. What the fuck. I imagine it'd ruin the quackiness of positions 2 and 4, and I've played a 3 humbucker LP and the middle pickup sounded like shit. Maybe I'm just not punk enough.
Yet its made in Mexico?
nitro finished my ass.
Does it hate America as much as Wayne does?
Fenders are manufactured in the USA, BUT, the M.i.M's(Made in Mexico) are shipped and then assembled in Mexico. Still, an American Flag Tribute Strat built in Mexico? There is no Shame in this World, haha. Listen to Wayne in this Fender Promo, about how he grew up in Detroit, WRONG!!! Wayne and Sonic grew up in Lincoln Park, or as we used to call it...STINKING PARK. Reason for calling it that? Lincoln Park was downriver from the Industrial Revolution Massive Complex called FOMOCO ROUGE PLANT, The fumes this GIGANTIC PLANT gave off were downright Diabolical!!! Wayne was stretching the truth just a bit, because Lincoln Park is the 1st city South West of the city limits of ...Detroit. Besides...LP5 sounds like sHit, compared to MC5!!! Oh, another thang while we are talking cities,, THERE IS NO SOUTH DETROIT!!! Please...somebody explain that to JOURNEY!!! hahaha
south detroit does sound bleak tho there is no eastside of chicago either. the night chicago died
Denny Mcfastlane South Detroit is Windsor Canada.
@bigfish0886 He's the 'Father of Punk' and I'm listening to shitty music, now theres an oxymoron!
What's so sad is that he actually believes all this BS himself!
paint a les paul like that and see how many laughs you get
I knew of this Wayne Kramer for a brief time personally through mutual friends when he first got out "The Joint" back in the late 70's ! Until I almost Whipped his ass for a personal insult he said about someone VERY dear to me at my house !
We used to go see him at a bar called The New Miami down in Detroit's Cass Corridor until he got busted using a taped recording when he had a perfectly good Gold Les Paul he could have played !
NOT ALL THAT !!
JERK
japzbene1562 cool story bro
Its easy to talk about "whipping someones ass"