Ultimately I would go with Solzhenitsyn's opinion on the matter - through his book Two Hundred Years together. He says that the fall of Holy Russia to eventual Soviets was more or less a long time coming. That the nation had rested on its laurels and had the White / Empire movement won out, it would have been for nothing ultimately, as the nation that would come out the other side would have not been what the Holy Russian empire was in spirit. Bearing in mind, the timing of the "revolution" after the first world war and several other conflicts in rapid succession was no coincidence at all. Regardless of the outcome, the "revolution" was inevitable.
Lots of delusional leftists and anti-Russian normies in this comment section. This video has been fantastic. No one has covered this subject from our perspective, and you've done it very well. Many thanks from America.
Very glad to have found this channel. I loved this series, though it is a shame I only discovered the channel right as this was ending. I very much enjoy this view of history that is far different (and I daresay more coherent) than those which I was introduced to at university. Time to get through Nations of Charlemagne!
It was a mistake for the entire world, I still get sad when I think about what could have been. Constantinople was stolen and we had our chance, but the "bolsheviks" ruined everything.
The last tzar kind of made ..himself get the blame (with good help from his wife too) for Russias many problems. It was an obvious "sollution" then for a new regime to start over without a monarch. It is not easy to be a morach though, you have to be seen as extraordnary but at the same time "one of us". I doubt i could pull that balance of myself.
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"Let us begin with this evident fact: Muscovy does not belong at all to Europe, but to Asia. It follows that judging Muscovy and the Muscovites by our European standards is a mistake to be avoided."-gonzague de reynold, 19501 In methodological terms, one should de-Europeanise any analysis of Muscovy policy.- thomas gomart, 20062 "
English Russophobia is bayond any logic comprehansion....why did not mantion that British crown agresively gave Constantinople to Turks instead of Greece
This is so interesting to someone hearing all this for the first time, like me. I only know like the very basic things about this subject, and all the little details are just so fascinating to me. It makes me wonder how they know all this. Is there really records of all this stuff? Evidently.
I feel like Nicholas was fairly progressive, but would be considered in today's terms as "tone-deaf." Concerning himself with wars of imperialism at the expense of the welfare of the state was probably the deciding factor in his ultimate fate IMO.
Neville Chamberlain , PM of the UK was so anti war he did a deal with Hitler, came back to London with a piece of paper signed by Hitler and declared "peace in our time". He was of the generation who experienced the first world war but then so was Hitler.@@jerrellholder8382
As a Russian Orthodox, I am happy to let you know that the Third Rome is well and standing against the demonic attacks, persecution of the Church and arrests of the clergy in Ukraine and the cancel culture of the West🙂.
Аt least those citizens of Ukraine who identify themselves with Russian Orthodox culture can move to Russia and live peacefully in safety, since the Russians have their own protected state, while Ukrainians don't have this and are constantly in much worse position . What's also important is that in the occupied territories of Ukraine, Russia destroys all religious organizations that don't obey Russia and are not enough anti-Ukrainian. Of all Christianity, only the Russian Orthodox Church is perceived as a legitimate structure.
That's not a valid argument. Like saying if you're an Anglophone in the US, don't complain about the crime. Just move to another Anglophone country . Just because you are a Russian, or a Ukrainian for that matter, member of the ROC, you're still a Ukrainian citizen with all the rights. Why should they move to another country, which is not safe btw. Have you heard of the terrorist drone attack on the civilians in Moscow?
@@olgakarpushina492If Russia will fight against all religious structures that associate themselves with the Ukrainian state and Ukrainian identity in the occupied territories of Ukraine, we will naturally see a fight against the Russian Orthodox Church on the territory of Ukraine which is free from Russia. Religious tolerance will not be one-sided.
The Bolshviks hijacked the existing revoultion/toppling of the tzar. They whould never have been able to or had such support was it not for the regimes long term impopularity (WW1 really pushing the issue).
Did they actually come out stronger after Communism? With regards to one metric, their population birth-rates had declined terribly I thought... I think they're getting some things pretty much right now where the West has been degenerating significantly, but the population growth rate seems to be quite grim, no?
Where's the Tsar? And no elected jumped up politicians don't count. Russia is massively weaker as a result of the soviets, the damage is difficult to quantify.
@jtzoltan , the decline in birth rate makes perfect sense, that happens whenever a nation industrializes. It makes even more sense when the male life expectancy was 23 at one point. However, as to answer the question: yes. Without the rapid industrialization that happened under the USSR there would simply be no way the Russian Empire would've survived the Nazi invasion, and Slavs wouldn't nave the best experience under the Nazis.
I have a video behind a paywall which covers this topic extensively: ua-cam.com/users/liveZIMNRbAamuc, which is besides the point because this topic is in no way relevant.
I always wonder about the position of Hungarians in the Russian vision of its own world. Although recently more dominated by Germans, Hungarian mythos seems to be more Eastern oriented: The Magyar nomads, the Carpathians, Transylvania, The Byzantine crown of Hungary, the Patriarchal Cross, autocracy(even during the pretence of parliamentary reform) etc. etc. They are neither Slavs nor Orthodox. Nevertheless they feel more akin to Russians than say Czechs or even Poles. Hungary as a part of Russia seems unlikely but Hungary as a part of the West seems ridiculous.
The Russians would eradicate Hungary, given the chance. In the end, Russkiy Mir means exactly that: Russian World, with Russians on top and everyone else subjugated, dead or assimilated. Only a fool would believe they could ever be seen as equals or partners. It is better to forge your own path than to throw your lot in with Russia, if the West is otherwise incompatible.
From my understanding of the fall of the tzar Nicholas the 2, it was the industrialists who backed the revolution through their representatives in the Duma, these industrials where all members of a certian order, akined to certian orders in the Germany, as soon as lenin landed in st Petersburg with his network, yes facilitated by Germany took over power and the Duma was dissolved. Lenin then turned on the oligarchs leading to rise of Lenin, who was always playing a game of cat and mouse to attain power. The underlying trend as far as i can see was the wests interference in Russia at the time lead to russias downfall, the plan was get rid of the tzar, and move Russia towards a liberal democracy but this failed as Lenin had no intention of giving up power. N.B Nicholas asked his cousin i believe could he go to England but king George said no, as Nicholas had shipped a lot of gold to England to sustain himself and family if things got ugly. As England was a protestant country this would facilitate the fall of the third rome.
Your voice reminds me of a British intellectual next to a toasty fireplace in winter with a book in hand smoking on a fine well made tobacco pipe. Ya got that tone to ya.
I , a Brit, living in France don' like the idea of 'Russophiles" very much or at all. Ukraine has suffered and has been suffering so much from the 'Russians'.
This is good.people should know this .great hope Russian Christianstity and a USA revival back to Basic Christian values holds back the Insanity of post moderen ism..as now it can not be denied that Russia Russian people recognize the sickness of the west, and actually call the self a nation of believers. Again I pray the oligarchy of destruction is held back that a final outpouring of Holy Spirit will bring in a great revival...those in Europe don't let the oligarchy overlords destroy Russia and USA....God bless His children.
"Let us begin with this evident fact: Muscovy does not belong at all to Europe, but to Asia. It follows that judging Muscovy and the Muscovites by our European standards is a mistake to be avoided."-gonzague de reynold, 19501 In methodological terms, one should de-Europeanise any analysis of Muscovy policy.- thomas gomart, 20062 "
What is your point? People tell all kinds of myths for propaganda reasons. Some people will genuinely tell you, that the Pope is the real Antichrist and that the earth is flat. It is similar to what the so called civilized western demagogues do portray the Islamic world or Hebrews or communist China. It all boils down to the same superiority complex or what you genuinely call racism.
And what if some two arrogant assholes wrote it?Moscow, like the whole of Russia, does not consider itself either to Europe or to Asia, if anything, we do not need your arrogant fallen Europe.Although Slavic tribes colonized the Asian part of Russia from Europe.
A continued story of slavery in the Byzantine Empire, the Russian Empire,mixed with religiosity and wars of conquest starvation, deportations and a more 'modern ' form of slavery plus massive 'ethnic cleansing' under Stalin... lovely stuff.
Mой сын кажа - мaскавіцкая мова ўвогуле не патрэбна будзе ў жыццi. Калi знiкне лукавы пра - маскоўскі тыран, у Беларусi (ВКЛ) будзе беларуская мова, а калi прыйдзецца жыць за мяжой, то будзе патрэбна мова той зaмежнай краiны. А для паразумення з iншаземнымi сябрамi, патрэбна ангельская, польская цi ўкраінская.
I find it very interesting how the messages relayed during Marian apparitions tend to resonate with Western propaganda. It must be a divine coincidence…
Russia has it absolutely legal state borders - these are the borders at the beginning of 1917, before the terrorists staged a palace coup againt Tsar and seized power. These terrorists were trained by the West and the internal 5th column, Russian citizens did not give them a mandate for power, did not choose them in any elections and referendums, and did not even know who they were. All decisions of the terrorist Bolshevik (and also so-called Provisional) government to reformat the borders of Russia, to grant independence to some territories (including Poland and Finland) are illegal in principle from the very beginning. If we want legitimacy, then we must unscrew the time to the last moment of the existence of the Russian Empire and take as the starting legal point the borders of Russia before its capture by terrorists in 1917.
@@TheMisterDarknight for whom it illiteracy? if you are obscurant, it illiterate to you. For any changes with border is need legal government with actual mandate for power from nation. Bolsheviks which granted "independences" and reformated the territorial-administrative system of russia HADNOT such mandat. they were just a terrorists, whuch captured the power.
Wow, this is 1 of the best lectures on Russian history I've ever heard. Fanstastic presentation.
We're lucky to have A.M.
Epic series. Literally.
Thank You for all of this, gentlemen. It's been quite fun & I've learned a lot. Cheers & God Bless!
Fun!!!
Ultimately I would go with Solzhenitsyn's opinion on the matter - through his book Two Hundred Years together.
He says that the fall of Holy Russia to eventual Soviets was more or less a long time coming. That the nation had rested on its laurels and had the White / Empire movement won out, it would have been for nothing ultimately, as the nation that would come out the other side would have not been what the Holy Russian empire was in spirit.
Bearing in mind, the timing of the "revolution" after the first world war and several other conflicts in rapid succession was no coincidence at all. Regardless of the outcome, the "revolution" was inevitable.
Lots of delusional leftists and anti-Russian normies in this comment section. This video has been fantastic. No one has covered this subject from our perspective, and you've done it very well. Many thanks from America.
Thank you
What about Matthew Raphael Johnson
Look around they are everywhere in life now lol.
Normal people are the worst?
One of the best series I’ve seen
Very glad to have found this channel. I loved this series, though it is a shame I only discovered the channel right as this was ending. I very much enjoy this view of history that is far different (and I daresay more coherent) than those which I was introduced to at university. Time to get through Nations of Charlemagne!
This is awesome. Brilliant video. Love from Sri Lanka 🇱🇰🤝🏴.
Getting rid of the Russian monarchy was a big big mistake for Russia
It was a mistake for the entire world, I still get sad when I think about what could have been. Constantinople was stolen and we had our chance, but the "bolsheviks" ruined everything.
The last tzar kind of made ..himself get the blame (with good help from his wife too) for Russias many problems. It was an obvious "sollution" then for a new regime to start over without a monarch. It is not easy to be a morach though, you have to be seen as extraordnary but at the same time "one of us". I doubt i could pull that balance of myself.
Yet another interesting one!
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Mongol, Barbaric - Muscovy is Self-proclaimed* Third Rome and Self-proclaimed* Rus´ IN THE SAME TIME 🤣🤣 What else ? the Second EU? 🤣
"Let us begin with this evident fact: Muscovy does not belong at all to Europe, but to Asia. It follows that judging Muscovy and the Muscovites by our European standards is a mistake to be avoided."-gonzague de reynold, 19501 In methodological terms, one should de-Europeanise any analysis of Muscovy policy.- thomas gomart, 20062 "
English Russophobia is bayond any logic comprehansion....why did not mantion that British crown agresively gave Constantinople to Turks instead of Greece
Barbaric, Dirty Muscovy you call for " Third Rome " 🤣🤣
Where is the link for the WWI series? Lotus Otis something?
This is so interesting to someone hearing all this for the first time, like me. I only know like the very basic things about this subject, and all the little details are just so fascinating to me. It makes me wonder how they know all this. Is there really records of all this stuff? Evidently.
I feel like Nicholas was fairly progressive, but would be considered in today's terms as "tone-deaf." Concerning himself with wars of imperialism at the expense of the welfare of the state was probably the deciding factor in his ultimate fate IMO.
To be fair Nicholas tried to avoid war, as most European monarchs were against the bloodshed. It was the government ministers who pushed for the war.
Which of 'Russia' 's leaders has not been a war monger?
@@Thisisstupid427the parliamentarians thought they were getting a cut of the spoils
@@daydays12 which leader of Europe in general you should ask doesn't like war
Neville Chamberlain , PM of the UK was so anti war he did a deal with Hitler, came back to London with a piece of paper signed by Hitler and declared "peace in our time". He was of the generation who experienced the first world war but then so was Hitler.@@jerrellholder8382
As a Russian Orthodox, I am happy to let you know that the Third Rome is well and standing against the demonic attacks, persecution of the Church and arrests of the clergy in Ukraine and the cancel culture of the West🙂.
As another Russian orthodox Christian, I +1 that
Аt least those citizens of Ukraine who identify themselves with Russian Orthodox culture can move to Russia and live peacefully in safety, since the Russians have their own protected state, while Ukrainians don't have this and are constantly in much worse position .
What's also important is that in the occupied territories of Ukraine, Russia destroys all religious organizations that don't obey Russia and are not enough anti-Ukrainian. Of all Christianity, only the Russian Orthodox Church is perceived as a legitimate structure.
That's not a valid argument. Like saying if you're an Anglophone in the US, don't complain about the crime. Just move to another Anglophone country . Just because you are a Russian, or a Ukrainian for that matter, member of the ROC, you're still a Ukrainian citizen with all the rights. Why should they move to another country, which is not safe btw. Have you heard of the terrorist drone attack on the civilians in Moscow?
@@olgakarpushina492If Russia will fight against all religious structures that associate themselves with the Ukrainian state and Ukrainian identity in the occupied territories of Ukraine, we will naturally see a fight against the Russian Orthodox Church on the territory of Ukraine which is free from Russia. Religious tolerance will not be one-sided.
@@olgakarpushina492
Compared to Ukraine, Russia is an absolutely safe country.
Czar was too easy on the Revolutionaries that later turned to Bolishviks.
He did not know the evil that he was dealing at the time, his humanity was his downfall.
The Bolshviks hijacked the existing revoultion/toppling of the tzar. They whould never have been able to or had such support was it not for the regimes long term impopularity (WW1 really pushing the issue).
How come the Bolsheviks enjoy such immunity for their crimes against humanity?
Byzantine Iconoclasm at 726-842 AD, was the not the fall of the second Rome, as Communism was not the fall of the third Rome. They came out stronger.
Wasn’t the “fall of the second Rome” meant to be the Fall of Constantinople to the Turks in 1453?
And Ottomans were 3rd Rome according to Roman law.
Did they actually come out stronger after Communism? With regards to one metric, their population birth-rates had declined terribly I thought... I think they're getting some things pretty much right now where the West has been degenerating significantly, but the population growth rate seems to be quite grim, no?
Where's the Tsar? And no elected jumped up politicians don't count.
Russia is massively weaker as a result of the soviets, the damage is difficult to quantify.
@jtzoltan , the decline in birth rate makes perfect sense, that happens whenever a nation industrializes. It makes even more sense when the male life expectancy was 23 at one point.
However, as to answer the question: yes. Without the rapid industrialization that happened under the USSR there would simply be no way the Russian Empire would've survived the Nazi invasion, and Slavs wouldn't nave the best experience under the Nazis.
Outstanding
The only thing you forgot to add was having Eastern Orthodox Clergy in the mix.
You're "Catholicizing" Orthodoxy too much.
You also neglected to mention the deal Pope Pious had with Hitler and also dealings with Mussolini in regard to Orthodoxy and WW2.
I have a video behind a paywall which covers this topic extensively: ua-cam.com/users/liveZIMNRbAamuc, which is besides the point because this topic is in no way relevant.
Third Rome is Moscow, while the capital of Russia since 1714 was St Petersburg. Russia has been ruled from the Winter Palace, not the Kremlin.
I fell asleep and this is what I woke up to
I wonder how much Russia was influenced by developments in the Qing dynasty.
I have consultation and a stuffed ear , this is my medical remedy (plus a doctor )
Perhaps its just that said Russ were defiled by the Khazars
I always wonder about the position of Hungarians in the Russian vision of its own world.
Although recently more dominated by Germans, Hungarian mythos seems to be more Eastern oriented: The Magyar nomads, the Carpathians, Transylvania, The Byzantine crown of Hungary, the Patriarchal Cross, autocracy(even during the pretence of parliamentary reform) etc. etc.
They are neither Slavs nor Orthodox. Nevertheless they feel more akin to Russians than say Czechs or even Poles.
Hungary as a part of Russia seems unlikely but Hungary as a part of the West seems ridiculous.
The Russians would eradicate Hungary, given the chance. In the end, Russkiy Mir means exactly that: Russian World, with Russians on top and everyone else subjugated, dead or assimilated.
Only a fool would believe they could ever be seen as equals or partners. It is better to forge your own path than to throw your lot in with Russia, if the West is otherwise incompatible.
Hungary as anything but part of the West is rediculous.
It's a Catholic, Habsburg dominion in Central Europe. Civilisationally it is Western.
From my understanding of the fall of the tzar Nicholas the 2, it was the industrialists who backed the revolution through their representatives in the Duma, these industrials where all members of a certian order, akined to certian orders in the Germany, as soon as lenin landed in st Petersburg with his network, yes facilitated by Germany took over power and the Duma was dissolved. Lenin then turned on the oligarchs leading to rise of Lenin, who was always playing a game of cat and mouse to attain power. The underlying trend as far as i can see was the wests interference in Russia at the time lead to russias downfall, the plan was get rid of the tzar, and move Russia towards a liberal democracy but this failed as Lenin had no intention of giving up power. N.B Nicholas asked his cousin i believe could he go to England but king George said no, as Nicholas had shipped a lot of gold to England to sustain himself and family if things got ugly. As England was a protestant country this would facilitate the fall of the third rome.
Your voice reminds me of a British intellectual next to a toasty fireplace in winter with a book in hand smoking on a fine well made tobacco pipe. Ya got that tone to ya.
I see three Ukrainians did not like this stream. Lol
Likes of the video aside, you think only Ukrainians have historical beef with Russia? If so, think again.
Doesn't every vid have random bot dislikes?
if I had to guess, there are probably quite a few in the UK who would love a rematch in Crimea
" Saddam Putsein the Great Loser" is rapidly sending Muscovy back to 15c borders .
I , a Brit, living in France don' like the idea of 'Russophiles" very much or at all. Ukraine has suffered and has been suffering so much from the 'Russians'.
Self-proclaimed* Third Rome
Obviously.
Mongol - Muscovy is Self-proclaimed* Third Rome and Self-proclaimed* Rus´.
Haha was never anywhere near Rome.
Russia is a backwater.
@@tomwhitworth1560 + with official, original name ulus of Juchi
@@eugenlitwin5887 haha
This is the second times ive woken up to this playing on my phone
Don't know what this channel is but, might make a counter
A counter what exactly?
România didn't collapse it retreated to Iasi,
Marasti marasesti oituz
thx
This is good.people should know this .great hope Russian Christianstity and a USA revival back to Basic Christian values holds back the Insanity of post moderen ism..as now it can not be denied that Russia Russian people recognize the sickness of the west, and actually call the self a nation of believers. Again I pray the oligarchy of destruction is held back that a final outpouring of Holy Spirit will bring in a great revival...those in Europe don't let the oligarchy overlords destroy Russia and USA....God bless His children.
"Let us begin with this evident fact: Muscovy does not belong at all to Europe, but to Asia. It follows that judging Muscovy and the Muscovites by our European standards is a mistake to be avoided."-gonzague de reynold, 19501 In methodological terms, one should de-Europeanise any analysis of Muscovy policy.- thomas gomart, 20062 "
What is your point? People tell all kinds of myths for propaganda reasons. Some people will genuinely tell you, that the Pope is the real Antichrist and that the earth is flat. It is similar to what the so called civilized western demagogues do portray the Islamic world or Hebrews or communist China. It all boils down to the same superiority complex or what you genuinely call racism.
And what if some two arrogant assholes wrote it?Moscow, like the whole of Russia, does not consider itself either to Europe or to Asia, if anything, we do not need your arrogant fallen Europe.Although Slavic tribes colonized the Asian part of Russia from Europe.
Great to see some Poles in the house.
Average polish joke.
The PLC was a slave state with a (((Brazilian))) nobility.
A continued story of slavery in the Byzantine Empire, the Russian Empire,mixed with religiosity and wars of conquest starvation, deportations and a more 'modern ' form of slavery plus massive 'ethnic cleansing' under Stalin... lovely stuff.
I luv you guys!
Mой сын кажа - мaскавіцкая мова ўвогуле не патрэбна будзе ў жыццi. Калi знiкне лукавы пра - маскоўскі тыран, у Беларусi (ВКЛ) будзе беларуская мова, а калi прыйдзецца жыць за мяжой, то будзе патрэбна мова той зaмежнай краiны. А для паразумення з iншаземнымi сябрамi, патрэбна ангельская, польская цi ўкраінская.
Українські друзі розуміють сябрів Бєларуських без перекладача.
@@PUARockstar Сколько же в вас желчи еретики вы хаоситские.
Хохолский язык не мировой.Так что успокойся.А русский мировой, на нем 300 млнтчеловек говорит.В том числе и в бы.украине большинство мову не знают)
Humanity periodically goes thru the self-destruction of Woke.
Needless to say, the breadth of human history is punctuated by woke. Lol
I find it very interesting how the messages relayed during Marian apparitions tend to resonate with Western propaganda. It must be a divine coincidence…
??????
" Saddam Putsein the Great Loser" is rapidly sending Muscovy back to 15c borders .
Bro stop sperging out and spamming in the comment section. Nobody cares for your opinion
Ad auesem
Mongol, Barbaric - Muscovy is Self-proclaimed* Third Rome and Self-proclaimed* Rus´ IN THE SAME TIME 🤣🤣 What else ? the Second EU? 🤣
Barbaric, Dirty Muscovy you call for " Third Rome " 🤣🤣
Russia has it absolutely legal state borders - these are the borders at the beginning of 1917, before the terrorists staged a palace coup againt Tsar and seized power. These terrorists were trained by the West and the internal 5th column, Russian citizens did not give them a mandate for power, did not choose them in any elections and referendums, and did not even know who they were. All decisions of the terrorist Bolshevik (and also so-called Provisional) government to reformat the borders of Russia, to grant independence to some territories (including Poland and Finland) are illegal in principle from the very beginning. If we want legitimacy, then we must unscrew the time to the last moment of the existence of the Russian Empire and take as the starting legal point the borders of Russia before its capture by terrorists in 1917.
so something that will never happen?
You have enough territory, what is wrong with you guys...
I am speechless on the historical illiteracy of this take
@@TheMisterDarknight for whom it illiteracy? if you are obscurant, it illiterate to you. For any changes with border is need legal government with actual mandate for power from nation. Bolsheviks which granted "independences" and reformated the territorial-administrative system of russia HADNOT such mandat. they were just a terrorists, whuch captured the power.
Sure vatnik
Self-proclaimed* Third Rome
Self proclaimed everything!