Can a Laser Engrave Music onto Records?
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- Опубліковано 4 бер 2017
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It sounds like if you were standing outside of a club that was playing the music, recording it while there was a storm going on.
The5shines that’s oddly specific
.......who hurt you?
holy shit that's exactly what it sounds like
in a car
and with a guy next to you doing armpit farts
William: OH MY GOD IT WORKS
Record player: CCCRRREKKKKKKKERRREERRERRAAAEREMKK
You didn't put headphones in then. It only plays the low frequencys
Outragedgamer14 Ok
Outragedgamer14 I know he said that in the video, I just thought it was funny lol
@@outragedgamer1410 wooooosh
Shut up @floorpizza. Normie...
William - OHMYGOD IT WORKS!
subtext - put headphones on if you can’t hear it!
Record player - *sounds like the gates of hell being opened and he man partying two realms over*
Maybe
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Tiahla kost best comment ever
Lmfao 🤣
Tiahla kost god I love this comment lol
Without headphones it just seems like Will is getting increasingly delusional.
why?
i think with or without
10x funnier if you don't wear headphones. Looks like Will is just so elated about the speaker static that he puts it up to his ear lol
I had headphones and thought he was insane
Can hear it without headphones
He said it is
Yeah
@@nadirjofas3140 barely
As Engelbert's grandson, I'm here to say your thrift store record choices were *top notch*
Thanks Engelbert's grandson! I really hope you're actually his grandson.
Yeah. He's my dad's dad, his real name is Arnold Dorsey. Pretty neat that you were able to play he-man with a laser!
Enge Dorsey Holy shit nice!
What a guy.
Lol so you're saying THAT was what he chose as a stage name? Literally why?!
If you ever revisit this, you have to slow down the music tempo and the rotation speed while recording and also mix the song with higher volume on the higher frequencies and attenuate lower frequencies. Than play it back on normal velocity, this should make the lens vibrate less on higher frequencies giving it more time to engrave it.
I really want to try this now
Yeah, I don't think most people know about the RIAA curve, music on vinyl actually has no bass whatsoever. The preamp applies the reverse effect, restoring the sound of the record.
I can’t believe I just heard he man on an Apple Jacks box
my music taste is... complicated
@@scientific3458 taste like apple~
DUDE HOLY SHIT my great grandma was the leader of the Englebert Humperdinck fan club. I'm dead serious about that and even met him on multiple occasions
The only reason I believe you is I can't imagine somebody making this up.
And if you don't know why he chose that name, look it up!
Schox Gamer That's tight, yo.
Schox Gamer cool cool
William Osman lol
it sounds like my next door neighbour is listening to he man during the winter storms of the nuclear apocalypse
Don’t worry, that’ll be me
“No trace of he man”
This quote brings me worry, concern, and an emotion I cannot describe.
"Our choices are Englebert Humperdinck, Englebert Humperdinck, and Englebert Humperdinck."
As someone who checks thrift stores for obscure music fairly frequently, you have no idea how true this is.
its the best option though lol
And classical music...
ANDY WILLIAMS
Are you a jojo reference
Isnt everything a JoJo reference tho
It sounds like I've just been kicked out of a club on a stormy night.
what club plays he-man lmao
very true though it sounds exactly like that
Omg yes
1,000,000,000 Times my club
Some v indie hipster lo-fi shit I like it
"if you can't hear it put on headphones"
*Turns up volume*
Will: *Screams*
I'm suing Will for hearing damage
i actually put headphones on. its really not that bad.
no one like its at 666
Dusty_playz now it’s not
Why why dude
"I found this broken record player, but I don't know if it works."
... hmm, ok..
William: cuts music into record
record: Here's a little song that goes like this: [redacted]
You should brand this, maybe call it LaserDisc
You *slick fuck.*
wait, that's illegal
it's for when you want earrape but want to use analog
If Michael Reeves got in on the project, it would be called TazerDick.
@@Ben-tg6ov
"each time you actually hear something, you get tazed"
I just listened to He-Man encoded from UA-cam onto a cereal box using a laser cutter and played back on a record player through a speaker and then uploaded on another UA-cam video
What was it called
Oh wait that was Thisbe video I'm an idiot
Sisbro 125 LOL
What I love about these videos is that it gives you some insight as to the original inventors' processes and (maybe) what they were thinking and such. It's super interesting.
Also you need to use reverse RIAA curve when cutting a record because phono preamp incorporated RIAA curve on playback. That is why there is no top end and lot of bass. You need to set it reverse when cutting.
Could you make a device where when I clap it rotates a laser around and lights all the candles in the room? Is that possible? Would that technically be dangerous?
Holy crap this would be horrifying
+William Osman sounds reasonable
sounds perfect for your channel XD
It sounds a little too useful
Please do this.
God I love this channel.
Pure gold
Pure comedy gold and laser talent!
TobyNT Gmaing dont you mean science
No I'm more than 2300km from Québec lol
Daniel Ross same
The intelligence, the silliness, the enthusiasm, and the smile. I found what I'm looking for.
Next can you try making records using things like solidified jelly,uncooked spaghetti and other solid foods or weird things then rank how good they sound from best to worst.
Here's the thing, when records are cut commercially, the high frequencies are boosted before being sent to the cutting head. The record player compensates by reducing the high frequencies during playback. This was originally done so that the record would have decent playback volume without throwing the needle right out of the groove any time the orchestra hit a kettle drum.
So you have the mass of the lens AND the RIAA curve in the playback loop both working against your high frequencies. The solution is in the signal processing. Send the audio through an equalizer (software or hardware doesn't matter) to boost the heck out of the high frequencies.
I was thinking the same thing every time he said the high-end was inaudible.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RIAA_equalization
I think cutting a much harder material might also help. In cardboard and to some extent the plastic that's on the cd the needle can deform the record. Records are pressed into hot bakelite which becomes very hard and brittle when cooled. This hardness allows the record to retain high pitches better.
Boosting the high end while recording also works as a noise reduction system since most of the record noise is at the high end which gets reduced during playback. A similar system is used on analog tape recordings.
Zak Zennii Q
The problem with that is it doesn't look like he's using something with an RIAA curve. So the fact he's cutting a disc without applying it is kind of moot. There's no EQ to attenuate the high frequencies in his playback path like you should have in the preamp. The utterly low volume coming from his speakers tells me he's got no preamp of any kind hooked up.
Now your CD has Backwards comatibility with record Players
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
Ich weiß nicht. Ob er es darf
William osman: I built my own laser at home
also William osman: time to make salsa in a garbage disposal :)
This comment is from a year ago, come on, you should know it gets worse.
up-load opnly the raw audio cuts as "listening to he-man but through a portal to hell"
i found your channel about an hour ago, because your house burning down was in my recommended feed. I don't know why it took your house burning for the algorithm to show me your videos, but boy, am i glad it did!
sorry about your house dude, you had a sweet set up.
I also found Michael Reeves because of it.
So I had Michael's video recommended to me a few days before, then I got the house one. It was crazy to find out the were roommates.
rigging a $50 lense to a $1 piece of trash essentially
pls forgibe me senpai it can cost a lot more fixed up, they arent trash
lmao i didnt realize your username was 'pls forgibe me senpai' and i thought everyone just was your lover
LinkTGF the plastic he glued the lense on was in the trash before he cut it into shape
The lord of the potato same
As a vinyl record collector, the first part of the video gave me anxiety.
I can't believe how much control you have over something so fragile when it fails 4 plus times. I just couldn't be able to laugh by the fourth one, but you just got that unbreakable spirit going kn.
Wow, this is almost like listening to beats headphones.
Reverse bose
This post was made by air pod gang
@@aedanpersonal843 lmao they literally have the same frequency response as Solo 2s
Beats are actually pretty good.
@@brennont9724 Meaning you haven't tried decent headphones
This guy deserves waaaay more subs
he's gonna get there (eventually).
he is getting there
7:35 sounds like he’s picking up a distress call
"today sucks!"
oh boy you did not know what was coming to your house lol
Bruh
taking burning music onto a cd to a whole new level
Ascentivi cd cardboard disc
It sounds like hell is having a party.
Without me!
Sounds like Jesus is having fun in the bedroom 😏😏😏
Hell yeah, 666 likes
This has 666 likes.
How have I only just stumbled across you?! Your videos are amazing, always make me smile. GG mate :)
This man really took burning music into a CD literally.
2017: makes device to transfer records onto random surfaces
2019: Drinks chlorine gas tea
True evolution
I want the track on the burnt CD as a 10 hours Gaming/Learning/Chillout-Mix. It's perfect. It's got a repetitive rhythm and white noise.
A microgroove 12 inch LP only fits about 25-30 minutes of music per side. The area of a CD is even smaller, especially if you count the auto-retract area in the middle where a normal LP would have the sticker.
TheWanderingChemist XD
dp vn03 you can just make a looped UA-cam video dumbass
dp vn03 and it’ll sound worse and worse the longer you go
Robbie Edward Sayers
*woosh*
Im so shook that it worked like it actually sounded audible even if it wasn’t great considering he made it work it’s fantastic like you can hear some of the words and it’s so iconic
This is my favorite video will has ever made. I just love music and record and things like that
Sounds like I’m living upstairs from a nightclub that loves he man memes.
relatable
It sounds like I'm in someone's basement and they're having a party in the middle of a hurricane
I really admire the way you don´t shy away from difficult projects, hope you see this one day...
This is actually amazing, even though I had to put my fancy headphones on
William and crew are a national treasure. Obviously we wouldn't want any other country to know about them because it's a little embarrassing. But we freaking love them.
you do realise youtube is international......
Dutch Alfred you do realize that UA-cam has nothing to do with the statement right?
TOOO LATE! >:)
It pretty much does since the video is on UA-cam and the only way to find him is through here.
Mike O'Barr mk but country can still call them national treasures you don't own them
If it's stupid but it works, it's not stupid.
But if it's not stupid it is not stupid therefor your statement is invalid, stupid idiot
SuperAlvin Forgot the period at the end of that counter-argument, Stupid idiot.
(Forgot to add stupid idiot.)
meme forgot to not capitalize that "stupid" stupid idiot
im jk lmao
Riley Benedict No capitalizrfgfjiii FUCK I'm not a grammar nazi
sinppa_ Using a glove as a condom
So like I know that was made like two years ago, but I want a cd 😂
The final sound in the cd makes me feel. weirdly nostalgic and emotional.
You should have tried to move the lens with a piezo speaker, they are designed for higher frequency and are producing quite strong vibrations.
Or just reduce the bass and increase the treble before cutting. Maybe even just go and buy an actual record...
@@nope110 You overshot and failed to miss the point.
You should make bass frequencies all the way down and high frequencies all the way up to make RIAA which every vinyl uses.
Yeah applying the RIAA curve to the track would've allowed for more volume where it counts.
I am so happy people like will make make videos like this available to me on the internet
For anyone finding this in 2022, Engelbert Humperdinck's actual name is Arnold George Dorsey. Apparently his manager chose the name for him to reinvent himself, named after a German composer.
Cool
is sounds like someone playing he-man out loud with the windows open on the highway
Whilst there is a big storm outside
@@NotKev225 while storm chasing
Yoshikage Kira a storm playing music
With a REALLY sh**y mic, while a EMP goes off.
Idea : gear the record player down to 1/10 speed and do the same to the music so the speaker shifts all those high frequencies that you're losing into the low frequency range while you're cutting
Ughm, I think you're a tad bit too late and haven't heard the news...
Wouldn't that just cause him to lose the low frequencies instead?
The laser's dead was burnt to a crisp when he's house burned down due to a wild fire
After watching this, my brain is saying “what. Did i just hear. He man, on a apple jacks box. What the heck?”
Wow such a blast from the past... What simpler times this was
This dude is a foolish genius.
this isn't really a project but what do you think the dumbest thing you can design and build in 24 hours is?
The possibilities are endless.
William Osman lol
I think this is the first video of yours that I saw, thank God I saw it!
This was the first ever video I ever saw from your channel. Around the same time, I saw Michael Reeves's first video ever and subscribed to you both. Your house burning down was devastating to say the least (I'm Australian too so I kinda feel a little guilty about the gum trees we sold a hundred years ago CAUSING said fires) and you still strived to produce content despite this. I'm sad to see you leave the community but, I understand.
Much love Big Willie.
does William know what a RIAA curve is? :o it increases treble and decreases bass before cutting into the record, the player applies the inverse curve. that way it could probably have sounded a lot more correct :o
"smells like day 4"
QuinRFRN I read this a second when he said it....
The wide bass-tracks is one reason most records are cut with RIAA filter pre-emphasis. To improve on that, you need an inverse RIAA filter on the audio while recording! Also, if you can get the impulse-response of the lense setup, you could also add the inverse of that too.
So I looked up our good pal Engelbert (after buying one of this records to use as a pick guard). Dude, the guy has 100 albums. Literally. And that doesn't include singles with B sides. He had around 40-50 of those too.
His management was contacted for him to be part of a Gorillaz album. His management said no. When he found out, he fired his management and said that he was definitely interested.
"If you wanna vibrate something really quickly, it takes a lot of energy." - William Osman, 2017.
Fun Engelbert Humperdinck fact: that's not his birth name. He CHOSE that name! He was born "Arnold George Dorsey" which to be fair is pretty boring, so I get why he'd choose a different stage name, just not THAT name.
(Thanks Wikipedia! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Engelbert_Humperdinck_(singer) )
More relevant to the video: Wow, I wasn't expecting that to work at all! Awesome. :D
I used to live quite close to Humperdinck. Why am I sharing this.
Sam Atkins where did this come from a laser video lol. and who is humperdink haha.
Joey, if you actually watched the video and didn't just scrub through too find where he was cutting, you'd know why Englebert is relevant to the video. I'm disappointed that you don't watch the video fully to fully support the channel, but also you missed the humperdick joke, so I guess it's fair lmao
"George Dorsey" or "George Arnold" actually sound like the name of someone famous...
You should look into RIAA equalization. When cutting records they apply an inverse RIAA curve, cutting lows and boosting highs, so the needle can track the grooves better and then the needle cartridge applies the normal RIAA to bring the sound back to what it was intended to be. Thats why you can only hear the lows after laser cutting the cardboard.
Came here to see if anyone else had put this! That’s why the lows are so boosted because the record player is beefing the low frequencies up. Still pretty cool though 😄
As a self-proclaimed audio engineer, the reason you were only able to hear low frequencies is because of something called the RIAA curve. Back in the 1954, the Recording Industry Association of America issued a standard wherein during the record cutting process, low frequencies are reduced and high frequency boosted, with the "curve" intersecting the 0 dB line at 1 kHz. Reducing the low frequencies meant that the needle carving the record wouldn't go over the limit and carve into the next groove beside it, and therefore allowing more groove space, while boosting the high frequencies, when reduced back to normal rate, removes the unneeded noises of hissing. This is the reason why turntables need pre-amplifiers.
I will buy one of your finest CD records, i have a record player that is destined to play this
Should have done one more but taken the MP3 onto your PC and take everything from like 250Hz and up and amplified it, exported it and use that.
End result would have sounded better perhaps?
as the highs would then move the lens more as well as the bass.
Just a thought xD
Sounds cool though as-is:
Like your peering out of your window on a stormy night and someone 3 blocks down is having a crazy rave aha!
250MHz??????
aha! a good typo right there. (Edited now)
Do you think the idea would effect the outcome at all?
It should. Lots of people have informed me that's how real records are actually made; not with lasers, but with a compensation EQ.
I can't see if you used a phono preamp, but that would probably reduce any high-frequencies the laser-etched record might have on it, because it applies the inverse of the equalisation used when records are cut. I think Audacity has these RIAA curves in it, you could apply the recording one to the audio before making the "record".
To many science words
Classic, example of good stuff from william
This is actually a really good way of explaining to people how sound works in terms of how vibration = air oscillation = vibration = Apple Jacks box go brrrrrr
you need to vary the strength of the laser rather than moving it... the groves on the record are varying in depth...
I'm pretty sure the wave-forms are encoded on two axis for two channels.
Can I have CD plox?
hm, i never ever seen a record with a wiggly track but maybe i am wrong... yup you are right, i just find this while i was writing the comment www.vinylrecorder.com/stereo.html :)
Varying the power of the laser would probably be the most logical way to produce a mono record using a laser though.
uhh. No. This is true for the Edison cylinders, but that format lost, and the conventional method is to cut the waveform parallel to the surface of the disk.
The depth of the groove is supposed to be uniform, not variable, with the waveform encoded in the sideways displacement of the needle within the walls of the groove.
(unlike the Edison system where the walls are a constant distance apart and the needle moves up and down, with the depth of the groove encoding the waveform - but that method hasn't seen much use past the 1920's at the latest.)
I'm so glad I found this channel you are like my favorite person now.
The song being played at the end was glorious
he man nscad version (not-so-compact analog disc)
*Horrifying static*
“It works!”
Nice will! If you cut some frequency sweeps in a given lens and driver configuration you can use some complementary EQ to pre-bias your files before you cut in order to flatten the frequency response. You know, math!
It's called RIAA equalization, but it's engineered for vinyls, so cardboard and CDs probably require a steeper curve. Especially CDs because the plastic, as it's molten, flattens out the high frequency details completely. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RIAA_equalization
ZomB1986 you might be right about the steeper curve, but what if his unbiased music file is the biggest issue. Running an unbiased recording through an RIAA playback filter will make it sound muffled. Judging by the way the laser cut grooves look, I'd say they were unbiased.
Getting copyright for the music at the end 😂
Jack'sVlogs No he won’t get the copyright to the song. Or do you mean getting called out for copyright infringement? That’s a different thing than getting the copyright.
Varangian Guard Thank you!
Varangian Guard I know, but he was not joking when calling copyright infringement “getting a copyright”. That’s so stupid.
Varangian Guard Who cares? The “joke” he made made no sense because he doesn’t understand simple the terms he’s using. I’m educating him so he can make the joke properly next time.
FJGaming 80 But his comment makes no sense!! So I’m educating him on what he TRIED to say.
This guy makes awesome content from his house, let's hope it doesn't burn down.
the end result sounds like those videos that are like "[insert song here] but you're in the bathroom and it's playing from the other room"
1:07
Welcome to hell
am i the only one that's dying out of laughter just because of the sound of that record
I'm going to start watching your videos without adblock so you can get some revenue to keep continuing making videos, I don't know if it helps, but I love this channel. Keep it up man!
Most of the videos don't have ads!
Oh snap!
William Osman put them on, we all love your videos. You deserve every penny
William Osman whats the software that you arw using around 2:40?
William Osman Then you should monetize some of your videos!
The quality is great and you're just a really entertaining guy. It costs nothing to us to help you out a bit by watching ads.
Great video Goblin
ah, the good old days of 2017, where any reference of CDs was not immediately followed by 'CDs nuts'
I hijacked the stereo at a wrestling tournament and played the 10hr version for at least 20 minutes before someone got wise.
Forticus via reddit Good work 👌👌🐙
lol I did ear rape static with mw2 tactical nuke incoming sounds at the school play for 1 hour before they saw it and at another one, i played ww2 sounds for 48 minutes and then got caught
This is like. The physical manifestation of playing the song in another room and I ADORE IT A WHOLE LOT.
8:56 pov : you are in your attic room while its raining super hard and your parents are having a throwback party down stairs
THIS IS THE COOL SCIENCE CHANNEL I HAVE BEEN LOOKING FOR
Why does that sound sounds like a really creepy heartbeat
I want a copy of distorted HEYEAYEAYEAYEA
and if you use something darker it absorbs more of the light/heat and the groove gets deeper so you don't have to hold the needle
I think you replied to the wrong comment
Which of us 3?
Smol Ghost 365 don't we all
Smol Ghost 365
Next thing to try is on a compact cassette tape instead of CD
Never seen someone so happy with a bad recording lol. Pretty cool.
>desperately tries to prevent piece from breaking
>have to re-cut it again and again every time it snaps
>finally succeed
>decide the device would work better if he broke that piece
Everyone who did it's own DIY vinil recording do it by slowing music down and slowing rotating disc. Then playing at normal speed. This way it is possible to get higher tones out.
You need to apply the reverse RIAA eq curve onto your audio to preserve the highs. The phono stage is exaggerating the lows too much, and reducing the highs.
I would love one of those cds for the pure hilarity of inviting people over then putting it on my record player
I don't' know if anyone else mentioned it and I may be wrong but I believe that records encode sound vertically, in the depth of the groove, not horizontally. So if you want to revisit the idea with this in mind it may help.