MORNING LOBBY STATS: Who's The Among Us GOAT?!
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- Опубліковано 9 лип 2024
- Whos' ready for another Stats Video? Celebrating 2 years of the Morning Lobby Reunion! In this video, we break down the morning lobby stats to determine who the Among Us GOAT is! Stay tuned for some epic gameplay and intense discussions.
Here are the timestamps:
0:00 - Channel Intro
01:47 - Impostor Frequencies
02:43 - Overall Lobby Winrates
04:22 - Top Impostor Countdown
11:28 - Impostor Winrate Chart
11:51 - Quiz - Any Link Between Impostor Freq and Winrate?
12:43 - Top Crewmate Countdown
18:45 - Crewmate Winrate Charrt
19:00 - Quiz - Any Link betwen Crewmate and Impostor Winrate?
20:13 - Neutral Killer Winrates
21:00 - Top Neutral Killer Countdown
26:53 - Neutral Killer Winrate Chart
27:29 - Quiz: Any Link between Neutral Killer and Impostor Winrate?
28:22 - Top Jester Wins Countdown
33:59 - Jester Wins Chart
34:31 - Executioner Wins Chart
35:00 - Quiz: Any Link Between Executioner and Jester Winrate?
36:00 - Quiz: Any Link Between Crewmate and Jester Winrate?
36:52 - Overall Winrate Countdown
40:40 - Overall Winrate Chart
#JusticeForCourtilly
In "Among Us," the traits and strategies that distinguish good players in each role are crucial to the dynamics of the game. Here's a detailed look at what makes a good Impostor, Crewmate, Neutral Killer, and Jester:
🔴Good Impostor
Deception Skills: A good Impostor must be adept at lying convincingly, creating believable alibis, and diverting suspicion to others.
Strategic Kills: Timing and selecting the right targets are key. Eliminating players who are skilled at deduction or who are alone can reduce the risk of getting caught.
Map Knowledge: Understanding the layout, vent locations, and common task areas allows for efficient movement and escape routes.
Task Faking: Impostors need to convincingly fake tasks by mimicking the behavior of Crewmates and knowing the timing of tasks.
Communication: During meetings, a good Impostor manipulates the conversation, plants seeds of doubt, and pushes the narrative in their favor without appearing too aggressive.
🔵Good Crewmate
Task Efficiency: Completing tasks quickly and accurately helps progress the game towards a Crewmate victory.
Observation Skills: Paying attention to the actions and movements of others can reveal suspicious behavior and potential Impostors.
Map Awareness: Knowing the map well aids in navigating efficiently and identifying out-of-place activities.
Communication: Sharing observations and suspicions during meetings helps to build a case against potential Impostors. Clear and concise communication is key.
Teamwork: Collaborating with other Crewmates, sticking together, and confirming each other’s tasks (visual tasks, if enabled) can help ensure safety and gather evidence.
🟢Good Neutral Killer (Modded Roles like Glitch, Arsonist, etc.)
Survival Skills: Balancing aggression with caution is crucial. Neutral Killers need to eliminate threats while avoiding detection.
Blending In: Acting like a Crewmate or even an Impostor at times helps in diverting suspicion.
Kill Timing: Neutral Killers need to time their kills strategically, targeting key players without drawing too much attention.
Adaptability: Being able to adapt to different game dynamics and roles (as modded games can have varying rules and roles) is important.
Manipulation: Like Impostors, neutral killers need to manipulate meetings and conversations to keep the focus away from themselves.
🟣Good Jester
Suspicious Behavior: Acting suspiciously enough to be voted out but not so much as to be outright killed by Impostors or other Neutral Killers.
Psychological Play: Understanding the mindset of other players and playing into their suspicions or biases to get voted out.
Risk Management: Balancing being obviously suspicious with being subtly deceptive to ensure they aren't killed before getting voted out.
Meeting Manipulation: Steering conversations and creating chaos to make others doubt each other while subtly pushing for their own vote-out.
Timing: Choosing the right moments to act suspiciously to maximize the chances of being voted out without drawing fatal attention.
Each role in "Among Us" requires a unique set of skills and strategies. The best players can adapt their play style according to their role and the evolving dynamics of the game.
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TIMESTAMPS:
0:00 - Channel Intro
01:47 - Impostor Frequencies
02:43 - Overall Lobby Winrates
04:22 - Top Impostor Countdown
11:28 - Impostor Winrate Chart
11:51 - Quiz - Any Link Between Impostor Freq and Winrate?
12:43 - Top Crewmate Countdown
18:45 - Crewmate Winrate Charrt
19:00 - Quiz - Any Link betwen Crewmate and Impostor Winrate?
20:13 - Neutral Killer Winrates
21:00 - Top Neutral Killer Countdown
26:53 - Neutral Killer Winrate Chart
27:29 - Quiz: Any Link between Neutral Killer and Impostor Winrate?
28:22 - Top Jester Wins Countdown
33:59 - Jester Wins Chart
34:31 - Executioner Wins Chart
35:00 - Quiz: Any Link Between Executioner and Jester Winrate?
36:00 - Quiz: Any Link Between Crewmate and Jester Winrate?
36:52 - Overall Winrate Countdown
40:40 - Overall Winrate Chart
Hi, I would love to help you with the graphs. How can I contact you?
@@eoln_thanks! Reach out on discord here discord.gg/rhafu
For the imposter frequencies, I assume that doesn’t take into account lobby sizes? For example, it would make sense for people who join bigger lobbies to get imposter less often than people who play more games when there are fewer people in the lobby.
Hey guys, no need to watch the vid, it’s already obvious i got 1st place in every category! Out the way 5up!
In all seriousness, i think given how relaxed and fun the lobbies are these days, these stats are just really interesting to see. I don’t think anyone is that competitive anymore that these would have a negative effect (I hope). Great video bait. ❤
Your stats are great though :)
Still my favorite Pov, you're just so wholesome! Hahah
Hahahehe I was literally waiting for Jester category because that was the most important to me. 😂 💜
steve losing every imposter game in 2024, that's my streamer
Feel like it’s almost deliberate at this point 😢
I know, right 😂
lol this aged “well” - at least it awoken something in Steve for recent lobby 12th June 2024
@@AmongUsAcademyit truly did impact a lot.. I'm a simple guy, when I see people and even streamers praising you I feel proud and also winning
Here’s the vid ua-cam.com/video/qtMc46GR8BQ/v-deo.htmlsi=FFCVzTphHegq3HIT
HAFU OVERTOOK MY STREAK, NOOOO
Hi Kara! ❤
Why did I read that with Kara’s voice? (Hi Kara I love your VODS)
Still very close! A couple more Neutral Killer wins and you get Number 1 again! They really do you dirty in your imp games and crew games, so gotta go Solo Lone Wolf Neutral Killer to get revenge!
- here's Kara's reaction: clips.twitch.tv/NeighborlyAstuteFishDoggo-Enn1QAA43bhNX3L9
Reasons why DumbDog does worse as a crewmate than as imposter, seriously:
1) “My food’s here someone please kill me”
This is less present now that he’s switched to factor but I can’t count how many times he’s died in the first round because of his food, either from sherif shooting, vigilante shooting, or deliberately entering a dangerous area to die faster
2) “We have to kill the dog”
I think DumbDog, 5up, and Hafu are the three “big brain” members that people know they need to kill so they can get away with their kills
3) Trolling
I think DumbDog has an above average number of troll rounds, probably only beat out by Steve and DK
I’ll miss Courtilly so much. Her personality fits so well in the overall dynamic of the group, she’s a very good liar and a very calm player which makes it difficult for crew to vote her with certainty. I’ve found myself believing her even with a lot of evidence against her.
She was one of my favourites too. Very soft spoken and never guilted you into anything. Her winning lived rent free in the lobby’s head - can’t believe they nerfed her so much
wait what's the story with court?
@@mindyabiznizshe’s pulling a “Reverse Junk”
Going back to work and less hours streaming. (Can’t make Morning Lobby timeslot)
Honestly I'm not a fan of her she gets on my nerves somehow but that's my opinion
A large portion of her problem was she is too smart. She got caught because she was too fast at guessing roles. I saw a couple games where she was voted out because she was too fast or smart.
An avid DumbDog watcher here: his crew win rate is lower because he trolls a LOT during his crew games xD I've been LOVING his content so much in the last two years because he stopped tryharding as much and is simply having fun with the game, and it really shows. He even said himself he often prefers crew roles over impostor roles, because he is just having so much fun with it.
He also gets killed early a lot when he check people's alibis, and the lobby tends to forget who he checked for alibi in the previous round.
Can't believe Steve, Mr "Number 1 Impostor during Airship Era" - is 0 of 25 in 2024 as impostor!
Court's winrates are so low because Junkyard is tunneling her every game 😂 *Justiceforcourtilly*
dumbdog's lower crewmate winrate could be because he likes to be silly with a lot of the crewmate roles
Court and kara let the others talk so much more and i think it's great for the overall lobby but not for their winrate
(seriously)
@@nellobartoyeah it’s interesting. Though I find Kara definitely fights hard like Hafu does. Kara having strong Neutral Killer Winrate at 2nd doesn’t surprise me - but it is interesting how that doesn’t translate to her impostor or crew
I love how everyone has an actual photo except Apollo
It's ok, you're just not used to seeing him when he's not wearing his human suit 🐶
My thoughts on Kara being so low as Crew is that she's one of the most sussed people in the lobby. She gets the 5up treatment where you're guilty until proven innocent, so she doesn't get a fair chance to shine as crew when she's always trying to simply clear her name. There's probably a correlation between her getting voted out as crew and her losing as crew. Similar deal with court
Interesting though how 5up has overcome this “bias” much better. I don’t mention it, but 5ups doing even better in 2024 (diff just not as big as DK) - whereas Kara is still struggling as Crew and Imp
@@AmongUsAcademy yea I think the 5up bias is always there, but 5up has just played so much among us with so many different people that he's been able to overcome that in this lobby where he knows how everyone will react. I think them knowing each other for years now plays a big role in how their games play out. I'm wondering how these stats compare if you drop each of these players individually in a lobby full of strangers who don't already know everyone else's meta sus
I definitely agree about Courtilly, some of the smartest plays you see out there and some of the funniest one liners too
Honestly surprised by her stats, thought she was higher. Sometimes she's too smart for her own good, she's been voted out 5 or 6 times now because she's so good at guessing and if a crazy meeting kill happens people know it's probably her
@@DingLiren-nw2vj Maybe it's because I'm not so familiar with the morning lobby to really judge accordingly, but I feel like it's in Chilled's lobbies where we can really see Kara and Courtilly shine more. I would love to see a video like this done with the stats from those lobbies.
I bet if there was a stat on successful meeting assassinations, Court would be pretty high in that
To sum up this video, "Justice for Courtilly!"
It would be interesting to see a "voted out as crew" stat and compare that to the other winrates. I was seriously surprised by Courtilly's stats. To me it also seems like Kara and 5up run around with perma sus.
totally agree :""")
and! crews voted out- which tbf would be a lot of data to review
Fully agree. I always watch either Court or Kara and honestly they both read each other better than anyone else reads them, it seems like everyone else just defaults to assuming both are bad.
Courtilly is my second favorite Twitch streamer and I still can’t always tell when she’s lying. I assume that’s part of why she’s voted out so often.
Dumbdog’s crew win rate is low cause he really likes shooting people as sherif.
Haha - must be same effect on Steve then!
Yeah court is so good at imposter that when the crew has a hard time figuring it out, they just assume it’s court lol
12:20
It looks like there might be a nonlinear relationship between imposter frequency and imposter. This is how I see it:
The less often you get imposter, the less practiced you are, hence a lower win rate. The more often you get imposter, the more sus you are, or better yet, the more tunneled the lobby is, hence a lower win rate still. But right in the middle, you’re not quite sus/tunneled, but you’re not too rusty either, causing a higher win rate.
hafu alluded to this a bit in her stream, but among us (esp modded) isn’t specifically designed to be balanced, but I think this group does a really good job of balancing the gameplay themselves and just enjoying playing games together. i think the stats paint a really good overall picture of why they’ve kept it up after all this time: about 50% of the time the game plays out as you would expect with a crewmate win, but it allows for plenty of moments for people to pop off and for them to celebrate each other. it’s not as much of a “solved” game because they’re letting games play out and not trying to over analyze every breath. i’m glad to see them having so much fun together after all these years!
Yeah if I had a lobby, I would like to balance rules and settings to have crew win 50% of the time which the Morning Lobby has successfully done
Hafu has specifically said that they protect impostors. Just this last stream before her vacation, she said that if they wanted to they could make it so that no impostors would win
Koji and Steve being the two best jesters makes so much sense 😭
It would be interesting to see how many times Court and Kara are voted out when they aren’t imposter. I feel like the crew suss them a lot
Well the people with below average crew Winrate do all get voted out more when they’re plain crew, so there’s a correlation there. But quite a bit would be the answer
Courtilly is held in such high regard in the Morning Lobby that she'll always be sus. Couple it with the fact she's technically a new addition from the old main cast, she holds no influence and gets voted out BECAUSE SHES SO GOOD.
She would have to adjust and play more like Ellum than herself.
Or lead meetings to gain crew favor.
I think Dumbdog crewmate winrate affected by hafu. She almost always susses him and cause him to die a lot as sheriff
That reminds me. Do AmongUsAcademy track sheriff kills/misfires? :)
After watching this I gave it a lot of thought and the end result after playing in this lobby for as long as I have..no disrespect to anyone, but I do get targeted a lot and well. I is wwhat it is and this chart doesnt reflex of what kind of gamer I am. At this point I play for the Content and that is what I am for. So thus I did a lot!
I think the reason why kara is 14th is because she struggles to convince the lobby to listen to her.
Agree. She is one of those who sees many many scenarios and then boils down to very likely conclusions quickly but there is never time to explain all of the reasons. In what used to be the "homies lobby" many had learnt to blind trust her as long as there was no sus on her to be the imposter. She ends up being right a lot (or winning as imposter).
@@choco1101I find she often carries the favour of Courtilly and Skadj in this lobby. In fact they often share shields between one another - so that’s a minor buff in some ways
@@AmongUsAcademyI’m glad you mentioned this since I feel like the OGs definitely shield each other the most. I was wondering if anyone even bothered to shield court/kara/skadj since I feel like I rarely see them get one
Apollo is such a contradiction to me though. He's very serious, very focused, very "straight man" kinda player. Yet his handle is DumbDog and his fursona character is not some cool-looking edgy wolf, its a goofy big-eyed smiling doggie
it makes sense that hbomb and court are at the bottom of imp win rate, neither of them likes playing imposter
also, for the future, maybe "voted out vs killed" could be a nice stat too for bad roles
I think in terms of pure lying ability, courtilly is one of, if not the single best liar in the lobby, which makes it a straight up coin toss on whether not she’s bad, not to mention she does a lot of solo routing in the early rounds making her more sus. In terms of her crewmate game, she’s easily on the level of a DD or hafu but doesn’t have the same conviction and pull a lot of times to get people to agree with her, and she can get out-talked sometimes even though she’s a great liar
Also, she gets meta-sussed for how quick she can guess roles
3:21 - When they talk about Winrate Stats, seems like
- Ellum was super into it
- Janet was really into it and curious
- DK was into using it to troll the others (he had the number 1 or number 2 imp winrates during that period)
- Kimi (Plushys) also wanted a link to them
- Aipha was laughing and keen "I like that"
and of course Steve was fine with the stats as well, he actually made jokes about it.
I.e. seemed like most the lobby regulars were interested in monitoring the Morning Lobby stats at the time.
I HAD NO IDEA YOU EDIT FOR KOJI!! i have been religiously watching his among us uploads on youtube for months!! fantastic work as always with that and with the stats, what would the morning lobby community do without you ❤
Still shocks me people don’t realise, I guess not many people read the descriptions haha
Thanks for your support!
We love seeing stats, as someone who’s just been binging all of their content this has been a blast.
It’s also funny learning you edit for Koji, since that makes a lot of sense. His video always show a wide variety of POVs
Yeah there’s always new people every week realising that it’s the same editor behind both channels. ❤
Glad you enjoy the content!
Omg I always loved how koji's yt content was the only 'official' channel that went amd showed multiple POVs, thought it was super cool they went into the extra effort - never realized that was you as well that makes so much sense!
I honestly though Dumbdog would be ahead of Hafu, but both of them deserve it as they are very skilled. Smajor being the best crewmate is strong too, as it's harder to win as crew with a lot more bad guys and neutrals around.
I seriously think Courtilly is one of the best overall Among Us players, the Morning Lobby knew her previous stats so is always thinking she is guilty
26:25 Can I just say how insane Hafu having 5 glitch wins is given it's the role with the lowest win rate. She really is undeniably the best among us player at this point IMO
Time flies. Can you believe the Morning Lobby Reunion is coming up to its 2 Year Anniversary this week?! - First Reunion lobby was 15th June 2022
Not at all. By the way, I am new to this I only started watching the morning lobby at the end of 2023 (roughly)
I know! I was thinking about how they’ve been playing AU for a longer period of time since the reunion than when the game first got popular to when they paused the lobbies. I think the mods definitely keep it fresh and I’m so thankful it’s still going!!
One maybe interesting stat would be like Total Guesses/Correct Guesses/Incorrect Guesses
It would but thats soo much data to collect haha, poor AmongUs Academy
so weird to see all their faces in a real picture and not a small window from a higher angle hahaha
Ikr Apollo looks like such a good boy
@@Zelmazam1 he's such a gooddd boii
Its seriously a crime how Court gets voted. But i love hsr energy!
My theory for Kara having a surprisingly low crew win rate is because even when she's crew, she gets voted a lot. And if she's not, people are tunneling or suspicious of her and that takes sus off the actual baddies. So crew is more likely to lose as a result.
great impostors/players like kara at the bottom of the list reminds me of a tournament in jan 2021 where dumbdog won, part of which could be attributed to how he was more of an underrated player (underDog😅) at the time compared to hafu and 5up who were getting killed first every game 😭 great players are targeted and that could contribute to why she's at the bottom of the list 😭
Honestly in my opinion Janet is probably one of the most powerful players in recent games. Like her understanding of the game is great and she is really good and deciphering things especially as crew.
10:38 that is so true lol 😂 like in the last game that 5up has uploaded on his channel, where they dressed as houses.
At some point Hbomb tells everyone to vote Aipha, and they just band up and vote out Aipha without a good reason (Hbomb turned out to be right though, Aipha was impostor). If it was Dumbdog who got suddenly voted out like this, you wouldn't hear the end of his complaints about it 😂😂
I think Kara has a hard time as crew bc a lot of the time she solves things is based around having a good knowledge of modded among us and she struggles to explain her logic to the rest of them who don’t have quite as good a grasp, e.g. something like everyone’s assumed it’s an arsonist when it’s actually a pesti about and she’s worked it out but can’t convince others
DK has been absolutely killing it in the Morning Lobby this year!
- glad he can find some occasional time to hang out and play with the gang
- he seems like he's having more fun, and the wins are flowing too!
I would be interested in knowing who gets killed first the most. I feel like its hbomb
I'm curious who gets voted out the most.
I *seriously* appreciate the time that went into this! I’m really curious how the win rate varies by map, who’s strongest at which map etc. Another fun thing would be who votes who the most (Hafu on Kara and Court anyone?), who kills who the most.
One thought I had while watching is that the crewmate win rates may not really represent much as they don’t account for the fact that people die lol
It’s funny how 5up got 5th place in almost all the categories
5thup?
Why is the video 40mins long? I don't know either 🤣
- just got carried away, and lost track of time I suppose
It was interesting to see that Kara and Courtilly have such a high rate of getting impostor. That coupled with their advanced modded knowledge could have set them up to be targeted, thus the bias. This needs to be studied because Courtilly was SO LOW on that impostor win rate graph and she's TOO SMART for that!
The amount of time it took to watch all the lobbies and put all this data together…seriously, props to you, good sir.
I do feel like Junk is one of the best jesters if not the best, but I think usually when he's jester he's killed round one or 2 so he never gets to shine. Like you said about ellum, Junk is just votable, if he's in the final 5 or 6 it almost always feels like he's imposter or jester, but since he's such a wildcard you can't usually let him do his own thing
I will say there’s an “art to not dying”. Koji does well as Jester I agree in large part he avoids dying - he survives to a lot more final meetings when he tries to not die with his favourite role.
That’s why I think overall Winrate or wins is fine for Jester. If you die cause you’re hiding in top left reactor or get guessed early round 1 meeting, that’s still an L for your loss column.
@@AmongUsAcademy yeah staying alive is definitely part of the role, but that's why I love junk jester cause he plays the same no matter what role he is lmao, crew imposter neutral, he's gonna be doing or faking tasks on the other side of the map as the sabos and being extremely suspicious lmao
14:23 I think there is a lot to be said about performance in the 'top 3' final meeting. some members of the lobby are really persuasive and appeal to others emotions, and try to take up lots of the final conversation, and others are quieter and present logical reasons like court and kara, and therefore they get voted more, regardless of if they're crew or imposter. the best imposters combine both logic and emotions in the final 3.
Plus i think you get a bit of a debuff if you're considered one of the "smart players", in the final 3, as people are way more cautious of you...
True. Although the opposite is the case for Hafu. She wins so many final 3s and final 4s as impostor - it’s so hard to push it on her unless you have overwhelming evidence and even then…
So it’s interesting how Hafu, one of the “Smart Players” doesn’t have the same rebuff
I think voted out stats would be interesting, since some losses are just from getting killed.
I tried that. The trend of the stats remain the same - ie the rankings the same.
Eg Overall Junk has a 46% crew Winrate. If you only count games he stays alive, it’s about 40%, which is still 15th. The people that are above average get even better crew Winrates if you only count games they’re alive, eg Hafu goes from 55 to 60%
But yeah, I agree Voted Out stats would be awesome, just way too much effort to collect!
Looks like DK is on his villain arc in 2024 😎
He looks so much more engaged this year!
That Kimi pic is unreal I have no idea where you found it but it doesn’t even look like Kimi from streams 😂
Her insta instagram.com/p/C05XRQ_rzJj/?igsh=eXZud2diYnVwYWtl
Never forget!
#justiceforcourtilly
I wonder if there could ever be a stat on who dies first most often… or who dies earliest in general?
Thank you for feeding me all this stat info, as an AuADHDer I love listening to this stuff while working.
I feel like Hafu's play has changed since the lobby startedup again. I've always enjoyed her play until lately it seems she may be benefiting more from reputation than her in-game play.
A BIG impostor tell for Hafu that's gone unnoticed for a while now is her, what feels to me like, over-the-top indignant disbelief whenever she's caught in a lie. She's often able to guilt people into saving her when all the evidence should be going against her. If anyone has noticed in the lobby it'd be DK and Dumbdog, but they're much to nice to say much about it.
While I think there is a crossover of skills between Impostor and Crew, I feel the two are also overall very different. It's the difference between IQ and EQ. One is the ability to gaslight, one is the ability to recognize you're being gaslit.
Good point. Biggest crossover is between Neutral Killer and Impostor. Relationship of the other categories is a lot foggier
Based on your stats it seems like whether a person cooperates in a team setting can play a significant role in their stats.
Example: Janet being good when she has at least one teammate vs when Kara has to play solo but does a lot better
Seriously, it's weird how into these videos I am. I've been watching this group play Among Us for years now. I don't understand why, but I really love this content.
I don't know if it would made too much sens but I would love to have stat about who live longer in meetings.Maybe to differentiate win as imposter vs win being alive at the end. Or average meeting expectancy. Would also love to have stat about people being wrongly voted as crew or accurately voted as neutral/killer.
Yeah I would have loved to keep those stats. Also who dies first most often etc. but way too much upkeep to record those stats unfortunately.
Already struggle to motivate myself to keep just the Winrate stats at times
I would seriously LOVE to see who votes for the wrong person the most. I also think that the Executioner + Lovers graph could have strong correlation
Minecraft and crew winrate? I have no idea where the connection would be there but congrats Scott and H
3:21 Hafu is so convincing whilst in In-Game meetings as well as Out-of-Game meetings. Pretty sure most of the lobby were excited and curious about the stats and thought it was a fun cheeky thing, including DK joking around his high Winrate “and don’t be jealous”.
Then Hafu comes along and manages to sway the lobby opinion that the stats were toxic and to be “ejected”.
Truly her persuasive skills in changing people’s opinion and votes comes to display in that interaction. No wonder it translates to high Impostor, Neutral Killer and Crew Winrate - she’s super convincing and is good at changing people’s minds to support her perspective
Yeah Hafu definitely used her Among Us skills to convince the lobby of her stance imo. Cause the initial impressions of most the lobby was of curiosity and excitement for the stats I agree
I think Kara is generally really good at figuring the games out, however when Kara calls somebody out it is often one of the heavy hitters of the lobby and she struggles to sway votes all the time
Oh interesting take. Because yes, it’s weird how her Crew Winrate is so low (even in 2024) because she seems to have really good reads on who’s good and who’s bad at any one time.
You think she struggles to convince people to believe her as crew, especially against the ML originals?
@@AmongUsAcademy Yeah to be honest, I vividly remember debates with Hafu and Dumbdog where Kara either has a good read on them or Hafu/Dumbdog are trying to frame her, yet I don't think I have seen Kara win any of those vote swings. Also I think the same can be said from the other side also, Kara as impostor makes good attempts to lie yet seems to find it tough to sway votes, maybe it is because her personality is more calm and reserved than others
@@confusion6347oh yeah. I vividly remember Kara trying to take on Hafu - she almost never wins those in the endgame. She also loses a lot of “you’re stuck with 2 killer” meeting situations
Great vid. I think the reason kara seems lower is because she doesn't have the same pull in the lobby as someone like hafu even with a similar understanding of the game. Also she is kinda blunt which maybe hurts her in this lobby
Omg!!! You're koji's editor? I love his and your videos, I was always curious on how similar they are!!!! ❤❤❤❤
Not surprised to hear you edit Koji’s videos. They’re very high quality, and I watch all of those too. ❤
In fact, I usually catch either live or the VoD on DumbDog’s channel, and yet I still enjoy watching your videos because the quality editing and the multiple perspectives really make for great content.
Wow, dd grew from 2D cartoon dog to 3D furry dog😂
22:29 Steve when it’s revealed he’s actually a serial killer 🤭🤣
Chose that photo cause I agree, gives real Serial Killer vibes!
I'm surprised you didn't mention how high Gumi's Crew win rate is. She's so fun to watch, it's like she's psychic.
I wanted to just glance over the stats to make sure the discussion didn’t devolve into certain allegations being made. Also didn’t want to hide the stats either.
But I agree, I think she’s like the Reverse Aipha 😂
I'm gonna comment this again:
I feel like the overall winrate should be calculated by finding the mean of the different roles' winrates because some people have won as crew way more than others (for example, if one person wins as crew 100 out of 200 times and won as imposter 5 out of 20 times, he's not better than someone who won as crew 80 out of 200 times and imposter 15 out of 30 times, even though the first person's winrate is 47.72% and the second's is 41.30%.
I'm saying that the winrate for the first guy should be (100/200 + 5/20)/2 = 0.375, 37.5%
And for the second guy it's (80/200 + 15/30) = 0.45, 45%.
I think this tells way is better at telling us who is better at the game.
Edit: Some roles should be weighted less or more than other roles, like jester should not be its own category, and should be counted with all other neutral roles so as to not skew the results too much.
There should be three categories: crew, imposter, and neutral (I'm combining neutral because some people have a really low neutral killer or evil winrate so I'm balancing things out)
Edit: I calculated the winrate using this method:
Average winrate = 28.07%
17: Courtilly 21.58%
16: Kimi 24.16%
15: DK 24.48%
14: Skadj 25.58%
13: Junk 26.35%
12: Ellum 27.29%
11: Hbomb 27.31%
10: Kara 27.52%
9: Ovilee 27.74%
8: Aipha 27.79%
7: Steve 27.99%
6: 5up 29.07%
5: Koji 30.36%
4: Smajor 30.97%
3: Janet 31.09%
2: DumbDog 32.81%
1: Hafu 35.06%
I actually did something like that before. Mainly cause I think for example, an Impostor win should have more “value” than a crew win. So weighed each role differently - neutral wins getting the most “points per win”
If you wanna discuss more, let’s chat on discord discord.gg/rhafu
I miss statistics on pairs of imopsters. That is, how many games did Hafu play with 5up and how many did they win together?
I’ll see if I can find a way to generate those stats.
This was seriously one of the best deep dives into player statistics. I wish Junk and Courtilly were higher in rankings (I mean, I understand why Junk isnt), but its very cool to see all the different capabilities of the various morning lobby crew!
Interesting stats! I will def miss Court so much :(( she is one of my favorites players in the Morning Lobby, she is really smart!
btw it would also be interesting to take a look at the best impostor partners with the most wins together! Thank you so much Among Us Academy for the great content
#JusticeForCourtilly
You should do a stat about meeting guess percentages. I know looking through loads of games for a new stat is time consuming but it says at the end of each round. Actually, if you include it in your next stat video I'll collect the data myself haha
Koji looks straight up like a super model in yhe picture you picked for him 😂😂
22:38 - Correction, both Courtilly and Kara have higher Neutral Killer Winrates than their Impostor Winrates.
- so does Ellum.
As you mentioned, they're playing more for content and still I feel like it's very organic. You have people like Hafu and Dumbdog that are still very try-hard after all this time. The fact that majority are willing to do something "dumb" or funny make this still watchable. They're all great players and if they were trying to be cutthroat, it would be unwatchable.
Imo Courtily is the smartest on the lobby (which doesnt always imply that she is the best player) but it looks like there are some factors that make her lose a lot. My guess is the people that are playing with her, not a problem with herself. So in another lobby she would be 1st in most ranks. Also, she is softspoken and this lobby often is "talk louder = win"
We need the stats of who is the best sheriff
Steve definitely has most correct Sheriff shots, DumbDog second and the rest aren’t even close
@@AmongUsAcademy or we could have who get more sheriff victim by Steve stats, it could be so funny. I think Dumbdog, Kimi, Janet and Koji will be on top LOL.
Thank you for putting this together!
You did steve dirty with the picture lol, everyone else is looking so slay
(Oh nvm he's redeemed)
Seriously!!
Haha he’s the only one that had a different picture each time 😂
I think that the data not showing much of a correlation between impostor frequency and winrate makes sense, there's a lot more nuance going on. First of all, with the same group of people you have to consider that it's not just the impostors who are getting more experienced, crewmates are getting more skilled over time as well, and so i think the winrate tends to stay the same. Also, the modded lobbies add in a lot more randomness into the mix, and no amount of skill or experience can account for getting killed by an arsonist or losing to a jester or something. Plus, you also have to factor in what i like to call "impostor fatigue". In the long term higher frequency may lead to a better performance, but think of how many times someone gets impostor like 4 or 5 times in a row and their performance drops because they just don't want to keep being the impostor (I know this has happened to Janet a few times).
I didn't realise you edited Koji's among us content! No wonder it's the most enjoyable to watch hahahaha
Incredible work!
I feel like ppl in the lobby kinda go light on the og “good players” but with the newer good players the lobby never really take their word and susses them or they die rather quickly no matter the truth (seriously)
Part of it was early on the newer good players were treated with suspicion because they had more experience with the mods than the OGs
@@whossname4399 I think that’s because they really restricted the mod usage at some point and only used specific roles. I think it’s very unfair how much meta sussing was constantly used against the new ppl to the lobby, especially when it was used against the others it would be a big problem
I imagine this took a lot of work, I seriously respect your commitement :) keep it up!
I didn’t know you edited koji’s videos! I love his videos so that checks out
Here’s his latest video! ua-cam.com/video/OQvs24PLf-g/v-deo.htmlsi=trTd9uDo91Cjmie1
@@AmongUsAcademy already watched it lol :)
The formatting is seriously impressive! Great presentation
27:29 - Quiz: Any Link between Neutral Killer and Impostor Winrate?
Wow, I had no idea! It now makes so much sense that you edit Koji’s videos. Watching Koji’s among us vids remind me of this channel!
Dumbdog being the main one voting Courtilly out as either crew or imposter/neutral
Interesting stats. Based on my viewing experience I would've placed both Court and Kara in the top half of the lobby with the likes of Janet, 5up, DD and Hafu. Also Smajor has really good stats.
Seriously love the dedication and analysis 👏 love the vids bro
Thanks for such a supportive first comment! ❤😊
Smajor my goat💪💪 (also thanks forbthe videos and stats, i really appreciate it!!)