Quality Hide Glue From Scratch #2: Fleshing
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- Опубліковано 27 сер 2024
- This is part one of a series following the making of hide glue from an entire Bull hide. I will talk in a future video about hide glue in general, skin structure and theoretical stuff, but I had to jump in and start working on the skin immediately. This is a follow along and learn type of video, rather than a scripted instructional video, but it will contain a whole lot of good info and should give plenty of information for most people to make a successful batch of very high quality glue. Don't start with a huge skin like this!
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You obviously feel like poo in the beginning of this vid and I’m in awe of you just powering through it. I have a lot days like that, and know how difficult it can be. Great series. Thanks
That treatment actually worked for a while, starting that day. Then it faded off.
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Instead of scraping with your knife you can put a four inch post in the ground and carve it to a dull rough point or wedge shape. Take the hardened stretched hide and rub it like you’re trying to ‘de flesh’ it. This will break down fiber, scratch off unwanted fats and meat etc. its been done that way for almost a thousand years. but the knife works...
I don't think that would get the skin nearly as clean as I want it, especially not cattle. I've been tanning for decades. I've used wooden stakes and metal stakes and always have one on hand. I use them to soften and break hides at various points in multiple processes, but would never think to use them that way to get the flesh side of a hide extra clean. Have you ever handled a hard dry cow hide? that doesn't even sound possible. I'd love to see that in action if you make a video. I mean, who knows, but that sounds a lot like unvalidated book learning.
I've watched a couple of your videos dude but what got me was cannibal corpse while you were cutting down the tree! LOL
FIRE UP THE CHAINSAW!
So, that connective tissue that you're taking off with the fleshing knife, would that be good for soap making?
Just the fat is used in soap making. It has to be rendered out clean. If you redered it carefully maybe, but typically pieces of clean fat are rendered.
What if you add linseed oil to the preparation of the glue?. Would that make it water resistant? Or maybe pine tree resins. Something that would keep it strong and would make it water resistant.
I think that would be like mixing oil and water. However, formaldehyde makes it waterproof. Every heard that there is formaldehyde in plywood? that's why, they used protein glues not that long ago, with formaldehyde. There is another more waterproof glue called casein or cheese glue.
So, just curious, do you make furniture? Or do you sell it to furniture makers?
No, I'm not much of a wood worker really. Certainly no furniture
im not squeamish at all just genuinely curious what the smell is like?
+ChefBrockLee not pleasant, but not gross. If it's done right, it's kind of a wet animal smell, like a wet dog, but not as bad. Something like that. Honestly, my hide glue smells less gross than the Great Lakes fancy grass fed gelatin which smells like a sun baked road kill. People buy that stuff for a lot, lol!
thats really cool, i never knew how glue was made, i mean i knew that it was animal related but not the process of getting to it.
+ChefBrockLee Hide glue is pretty uncommon now. Maybe used in lickable stamps and envelopes? Or they may all be vegetable based now. You can get dry hide glue and preparations of liquid hide glue, but it's pretty much niche uses at this point. There are other traditional glues, but hide and casein were the main ones. Casein is somewhat waterproof, whereas hide glue is not.
im sure most glue is veg made i mean if you can make glue from corn we probably do thanks to government subsidies
The lickable variety of envelopes and stamps are/were made from fish glue that has been treated to taste better. You can make hide glue water resistant by adding aluminum sulfate.
I have dog rawhide chews soaking in warm h20 as I watch this. I am trying to learn how to make good glue so I can laminate woods for ancient style bows :)
That should work fine!
In the first part, you mentioned not using frozen materials for this. What is the reasoning on that?
ps - I get 3 allergy shots for bees/wasps once a month, the combination of the damn medicine and the shots...you look just like I do on those days. Shit sucks.
I don't know why on the frozen material, it's just a tip from old industrial glue making manuals. That day was rough. In the long run, I failed to really benefit from those shots, but I could have stuck with it longer.
Green river hunting knife.
Did I have one in the video? I don't remember. I used to use the one called the fish pattern or hunter a lot. It's a good camp knife, but just an okay belt knife. good for skinning large animals bigger than a deer probably, which I rarely do. I've skinned a ton of deer with them though. Now I'd rather have a smaller knife.
I see at 5:10 that most vital of survival tools. The banana box. Will be badly missed if society collapses.
Can never have to many banana box's. LOL.
Never tanned cow hide. Deer, sheep, goat, possum - yeah.
And the king of all, the 5 gallon plastic bucket! How can be survive without cordless drills, headlamps and plastic buckets ?!