Looks aren't everything: "The Acolyte" Episode Five Deep Dive
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I was actually sad when Jecki died. Not because the built up her character. But because she went out like a champ. She fought her ass off. But then there's the question of how Qimir killed multiple Jedi knights at once, but didn't make quick work of a padawan.
Maybe Jeki just better duelist or stronger in force
In fairness there were padawans mixed in with the killed jedi.
Two words: fan service
Or the fact that Jecki beat Mae when Indarra couldn't 😂
@@TrashPanda90914fair but indarra had Mae beat she was just dumb at the end of the fight
I find it funny that Osha felt guilt in the previous episode for essentially being the reason the bug creature died only to have no problem letting many of them die in a poor attempt to kill Qimir. The show doesnt even understand its own characters.
They're not really characters, more like talking props that do what the plot needs them to do.
Lol she felt really bad when 1 died but had no problem multiple getting mowed.
Desperate times calls for desperate measures.
This whole show is a slop garbage fest. The writing is so piss poor that it makes even book of boba more watchable
@@RG2088while i agree with that I feel like if she was so desperate then she shouldnt have stopped Sol from striking him down. It may not be the Jedi way but like you said desperate times call for desperate measures.
Sticking pip on qimirs back was the Star Wars equivalent of tying his shoelaces together 😂
Such disney writing man
Chaozu Standard move.
It was hilarious
@@stevesmith42066 More like Lucas writing.
@@WiseSnakehow is that like Lucas’s writing?
A Sith, who just killed multiple Jedi Masters, gets carried off by giant bugs??
That's because they fly now.
Because, even though there were MANNNNNY moments the Sith should have been killed easily, the plot needed him to live... The walk away for this episode: nothing we didn't already know already, writing by committee = bad...
@@sanshinobi3664THEY FLY NOW?!?! 😱
There were a lot of bugs. They had “THE POWER OF MANY!”
Not only that, but one who killed multiple Jedi Knights and above easily, but struggled against the only Padawan.
You know that feeling when you read an article and half the words are spelled wrong? That’s the feeling I get when I watch this show. It does feel like it was written by children.
It feels like it was written by people paid too much, with too little direction, and no competent supervision. People busy huffing their own farts and thinking too little of their audience.
I keep hearing people say 'turn your brain off its for kids', but I was also told the Acolyte was gonna be super dark and adult. Which...it isn't, it's pathetic. And why should kids expect to be treated like idiots anyway? I watched all of Clone Wars, as an adult, and that is a cartoon that treated its audience like intelligent, mature human beings, with some very adult and thought-provoking themes and ideas nestled into its narrative. The Acolyte is an embarrassment, by comparison.
@Blisterdude123
I cannot imagine thinking the Umbara Arc of the Clone Wars is for kids. That's "Paths of Glory" in Star Wars.
Wow. The "CW drama" seems like such an apt description for this show. The plot armor is heavy with Mae and Osha.
Well, the actress MAE be making extra money for playing multiple characters, so if one died that would be bad... If both died, we wouldn't care, but then there would be no Acolyte... Would that be bad?
Yeah, crazy that the lead characters didn't die in the first 5 episodes.
They are by far the least interesting character(s?) in this show, played by the least compelling actor. And now the show has killed off most of the ones who weren't exactly outstanding, but were at least 'novel' to some extent.
It's killing me psychologically knowing the next three episodes or whatever are going to just be even MORE of Osha/Mae. She has the charisma of a tree stump.
@@Blisterdude123 Wow, I hadn't thought of that, but you are totally right. Now I'm traumatized as well! If it's just these characters, I can't decide if it's a cheap "mystery box" ploy to rely on our knowledge from TPM and Mundi's line about the Sith as to how this show resolves what happened in ep5. As in "what's gonna happen to where the Jedi council don't hear about this Sith?" Mundi making an appearance is no accident. So, is this a cheap plot device, IDK.
Anyway, cheers!
Jecki Lan no longer has it going on
She's still Jecki from the block though
What an absolutely mind blowing waste of Dafne Keen.
@Blisterdude123 how? She jumped around and fought, that's all she's known for or good at. Her acting in Logan is good, it's atrocious in this lol
Omg! Thanks! I'm glad you liked the video!
@@idiot_city5244 she was great in the dark materials.
From my point of view the giant moths are evil...
WELL THEN YOU ARE LOST! 😡
mothstafar is where jedi go to die
Why would Jecki be worrying about arresting Mae when a bad ass Sith is mopping the floor with Jedi? Mae wasn't the threat here and Jecki should have known that.
Loss of situational awareness?
With that many Jedi masters and knights against one bad force user who wouldn't assume the Jedi wouldn't get the upper hand pretty quickly.
Besides the script required that she lose situational awareness and just carry on while the others were having their own troubles. The script over everything.
She wanted the wookie-saber for herself.
@@stevena.7022the wookie meat saber
Because we needed to good Girl Boss vs Girl Boss battle... 😁
I mean to be fair, it’s more about security. As far as she knows the Jedi have engaged the Sith - she hasn’t so if she sees Mae she’s going to detain her. I didn’t see a problem with this.
Wow this is again longer then the run time of the episode.
Thor with his 6'4" height out here, making Long Man MauLer proud
😂😂😂
Mae has a tattoo on her head, and Osha doesn't. How did they just gloss over this. No way he doesn't know it's her. It was just ridiculous.
Also the fact her hair didn't catch fire when she cut it 😂
Even a blind Jedi would sense that it was not their former padawan standing in front of them.
The tattoo is hidden by her magic force hair
@@tomradcliff6859 The writers don't know anything about the Jedi, or care.
Eurgh, stop making the writers work harder kkkk 🙄
Darth Smilo killed 7 jedi with ease but got carried by some bugs...
FICTIONAL UNIVERSE STORY DONT QUESTION IT @spooderman599
this shit was annoying in the ep ngl
@@dizehjvegnomis yeah everything was beyond dumb
Imagine instead of picking up Palpatine and throwing him down a shaft, Vader stuck a light on him and bugs took him away lol
It’s a recurring trope, evil defeated by nature
Hey Thor! I think, I know how "The Acolyte" will end:
It turns out, Rey is reading the whole story to Poe from the old Jedi books.
Poe says: "I have some question about the story!"
When Rey is starting to answer, Finn comes running into the room screaming: "REYYYYYYYYY!"
- end-credits
😂😂😂😂😂
unironically i would forgive the show completely if this was the ending
*” A Good Question, For Another Time “*
Mae is bipolar 100%
She is Lesbey Headberg's self insert. Is it really any wonder her irl sister is estranged from her?
@@JakkMehoff I know nothing of the show runners family, dont care enough. i just think Mae is Bipolar or just psychotic.
@@zelha5528 Ah, well, Lesbey did call this show a love letter to her estranged sister And said she hopes she sees it and they reconcile...
Otherwise, I'd have no idea or interest either, but it seems to have played a... Weird and prominent role in what we ended up getting here. A very, very expensive, very public therapy session with Star wars branding. 😐
To quote Robot Chicken, “What a twist!”
It's also amazing how quick Yord's leg injury healed, just in time for him to take a long hurried walk with Osha.
It was a graze?
‘Tis but a scratch!
Walk it off Yord.
It’s only a flesh wound!
Standard movie/show making. One editing cut heals any actual cut.
Every action hero functions on this healing ability.
Hey Thor, I have a theory: the reason why the script doesn’t make sense is because we’re seeing it from the perspective of Osha, once a little girl who enjoyed Spice Cream a bit too much, and went into a deep hallucinogen trip.
It’s like Alice in Wonderland… in SPACE!
Good thing the moths are only attracted by very specific plot necessary light.
9:40 Master Sol finds Darth Venom familiar because they met in his corner shop the day before.
😂😂😂 I completely forgot about that. These Jedi are brain dead.
Trans ex witch.
That’s what I thought
Yeah, I forgot too and got the impression he knew him when he was younger. Like I bet they will have another flash back of Sol as a Padawan where he and his master came and stole his relative from them because he was Force Sensitive. Or they were after Qimar himself but the family refused and so bs happened where his family was slaughtered.
@jxchamb you also forgot soooo hahaha
Sol "I won't kill you..But I don't have to save you,either."
*lets bugs carry Q'mir away.*
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Jedi Master Squid Games really pulled a: "I won't kill you, but I don't have to save you."
What do you have to say about the show getting your history wrong?
@@KRobinson-ko1ne Meow
Thor looks at dirt: "hmmm, somethings going on here" lol
Mae continues to be The Big Show of the whole franchise.
↔️↔️↔️↔️
She's nice. She's evil.
She's focused on revenge. She just wants to reconnect with Osha.
She wants to surrender. She wants to evade arrest.
She wants Osha to know truth. She switches identities, and leaves Osha to a likely deadly fate.
Her most consistent character trait is her pathetic and woeful incompetence.
Reminds me of Ahsoka.
Gets mad at the jedi for defending Palpatine. Gets mad at the jedi for spying on Palpatine.
Gets mad at the jedi for not helping Mando terrorists. Gets mad at jedi for saving civilians instead.
Mary Sue characters.
The Thor Skywalker will be right about this sith , except one simple sing , he don't want to kill May because now everything going on his plan and May is one of important part of it !
This was my one real issue with this episode, the flip-flopping, run away Mae.
But the more I consider it... this could just be a very realistic female character 😂
makes so much sense.
The problem with the show is it is entirely plot driven. Characters actions don’t happen because they are logical or true to the pysche and motivations of a character, they happen because the script said it does. It’s what you would feed to an AI as an example of bad writing to have it learn what not to do.
The same was the case with the Ahsoka show and Mandalorian season 3. The characters didn’t do much but sit or stand around unless the plot needed them to do something and they put in plenty of pointless inconsequential act y to o keep us entertained.
The main difference here a is that we were/are being misguided with what the main plot, it’s mystery even is. Everything else is fairly straight forward.
What this show really suffers from is that this is a long format story which is being awkwardly split up and released weekly, rather than being binged. And Star Wars is using that formula because with is basically their movie of the year, that they split into enough episodes to classify it as a season of a TV show and Disney needs to hold onto enough of its subscribers for long enough that they might forget about cancelling their subscription. And we see the same with their other live action Star Wars shows. Ahsoka, Book of Boba Fett and Kenobi were clear examples of this.
Humans are illogical creatures of emotions... Spock
Yord getting wrecked was the highlight.
Agreed
He got destroyed so hard 😂 i almost felt bad for him
He was easily my favorite character so yeah that hit hard. Brutal too
@@butcherpete2286 gotta be a troll
@@FabuBrik nah nah, fun fact, other people are allowed to like things you don't. I liked yourd because he was a quintessential Jedi knight. Kinda high nosed, a little too full of himself and definitely looking to do right by the people of the galaxy. I like that. I like my heroes being good people, if flawed.
Don't forget, they said it's a 3 hour hike from Kelnacca's hut where the Sith parked their ship and Mae doesn't know where the Jedi parked... do they say nothing the whole time? the show's story falls apart when you thing about anything too long. I wish the writer's had thought things through better. This sort of thing just makes it feel like they don't care... it's a bummer
Writing? Abysmal. Pacing? Boring. Plot? Contrived. Established Lore? In the bin. Fight sequence? On. Fucking. Point. That was so cool. I hate to say it, I really do, but that was enough to make it worth it for me.
Laser hair-cut is the thing we take with us from this episode 😂
Say that to Anakin getting knighted.
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"You wear the trappings of the Sith, you fight like the Sith, but this can be imitated however"
I love how easy it was for dooku to take her down in that first encounter, especially after you see her take out so many powerful people.
What I've noticed is how little the fact that the two most important (big asterisk there) characters are twins, one drawn to the light side and the other to the dark has been utilized in this series. The whole thing just kind of devolved into an "and then" plot where good guys with blue and/or green lightsabers fight bad guys with red lightsabers.
Can’t believe they pulled the “let’s pretend to be my twin” trick again. Like are you really telling me Sol, a Jedi master, who has a close connection to Osha would not be able to pick that up?
So many things wrong with this show…
One way to kill a Jedi without a weapon is to turn them to the dark side (like Vader). But that may be too clever for this show.
Wow.. i mean, THAT would be waaaay too deep. But certainly would accomplish the mission.
This series is written by ChatGPT.
Cortosis shorts out lightsabers by breaking the "loop" of plasma by absorbing and diffusing any energy that strikes it. It literally sucks the energy and spreads it out evenly amongst it's molecular structure, which braked the loop and causes a short out.
So with that I'm mind, when Osha shoots the stun bolt, the majority of the energy in the blast was absorbed by his vambrace and helmet.
Funny enough, Cortosis doesn't make the best armor since it's properties while great against energy attacks it doesn't hold up well against physical damage, so it was pretty cool to see Jecki break it with her hilt.
Watching this episode made my cortosis flare up.
Of course, cortosis disables lightsabers for several minutes, not several seconds.
“As we celebrate mediocrity, all the boys upstairs want to see. How much you’ll pay for what you used to get for free…” Tom Petty
As soon as everyone was like 'Qimir is too obvious to be the Sith' that was when I knew Qimir was the Sith. The writers of the Acolyte are blithering boobs, and they think their audience are dumber than the characters in the show. Of course it was going to be Qimir. There was absolutely no possibility of it not being Qimir. There was nobody but Qimir it could be.
And the wildest thing of all, to me, was that the writers of the Acolyte must 'truly' believe it was some kind of shocking, genius reveal. They literally had Qimir say to Mae 'you never suspected it was me!' and then twirled his villainous moustache. Ludicrous.
All that will be missing is She-Hulk jumping in to reveal K.E.V.I.N. was the real writer for the series.
It’s an episode from Scooby-Doo
@@DarthKastosyep some crap from scooby do or trying to copy scream Lol
I just have this image of them chuckling away at how clever they are, after completing each section of the script.
Why, a Sith Laird, indeed!
It is, I'm afraid, {pardon me, Ladies}
Balderdash!
Preposterous Poppycock!
This QÆмУyяR fellow seems a good sort, and besides, like the man said, we never guessed it was him!
Sith Lairds...and Ladies, naturellement!
And why not, when all is Phantasy?
Fairy Tales!
Ghosts and Goblins!
In short, {once again, I beg your pardon, Ladies!}
Balderdash!
Hey Thor, the S-tier name for this guy is clearly Smilo Ren.
Dubbed that by Mauler 😂
Nah, so obvious.
One of the other efapers called him Darth teeth. Got a chuckle out of me.
Getting a red blade means using Sith techniques on the crystal. A "dark" or "rogue" Jedi would not have a red emitting Kyber Crystal. Even if he found it, it's still proof that the Sith are not gone.
Which is apparently the lore explanation for why Baylan and Shin ended up with their... Blood-orange rather than red, right?
Sooo... Qimir is a Sith, whether or not he calls himself one. Per Disney's canon.
They'll just retcon the canon / lore later.
@@JakkMehoff I mean, he did call himself a Sith. He said "Jedi like you would call me a Sith" or something, which I get is the writers trying to be coy and clever, but it isn't. Because he doesn't deny being a Sith, and says the Jedi would be correct to identify him as a Sith, so...he says he's a Sith, basically.
Uhm I'm not sure this is true considering Dagan in Jedi Survivor.
“IT WAS MY DISCOVERY AND THEY JUST WANTED ME TO THROW IT AWAY!” *crystal turns red in literal seconds*
"she needs the light so she can put it on his backs of the bugs can take him away" LOLOLOL! THAT SOUNDED SO FUNNY!!! 😆
I want to see how they disguise the fact that so many Jedi died by light saber
Training accident. Nothing to see here.
Bugs will eat the bodies.
Just a critical failure of Jedi hair-cutting practices. They later called it 'The Great Trimming'.
i swear to god if it's the "all in le head" trope because of the spores, literally one of the weakest resolutions to anything ever i'm gonna lose it. that's literally highschooler level writing if not lower
Oddly enough, I've felt compelled to go replay The Force Unleashed after watching this episode lol.
😂 good idea
honestly after seeing what the temu sith acolyte apprentice idiot did to all those jedi i don't blame you. that's why this fight felt more marvel then star wars imo. yeah its over the top crazy balls to the wall but it doesn't have that starwars feel to it.
Sol not recognising that Osha is Mae is by far the biggest issue in this one. That a Jedi Master would be fooled like that is just ridiculous. Osha was his Padowan ffs! He would Force Sense her. The markings on her forehead are in a completely different place lmao. An absurd contrivance shoehorned in so the switcheroo can happen.
Qimir seems to know which twin he has, as you'd imagine if he thought he'd have Mae he would just killed her.
I'm not sold on that take yet. Sol is carrying a guilt complex from leaving Mae behind 16 years ago, so it is plausible that he would go along with the attempt at deception as a chance to make up for that past. I'm not saying it's a good story point, but it would fit with the not-as-clever-as-they-think writing for the series.
Next week should show us which way the deception goes.
@@JoRoq1I would potentially agree, if that didn’t also mean he has no idea where Osha really is. The fact that he would accept the deception to the point of not even looking for his former padawan with a Jedi murderer on the loose is too much for me.
We've already been shown he can Force Dense *specifically* Osha when she crashed on the snow planet.
@@silverscion2144 Given that the writers are terrible, and that Sol was simply walking away from the bodies of his friends and padawan, it would be a rare consistency in the show.
Will bother me a lot if we never see Yoda. Makes no sense he wouldn’t sense these events, and even if somehow he didn’t he would obviously want answers to all the MIA Jedi in such a short period of time. Would Mundi seriously never tell him, or council about the murdered Jedi? The logic needed to be abandoned to make this story work is ridiculous.
Some horrible twitter person involved In the show said Mundi's part was supposed to be Yoda, but couldn't be because of budget...(180M show...) So he probably wont
@@andreix123 Lol. Was gonna mention that same tweet. Absolutely stupid considering these past two episodes have been only 50 minutes long combined. This show costs more than season two of House Of The Dragon.
Be glad they didn’t include Yoda and ruin his character
@@ykwtfgoIt ruins his character with him not being in it. Makes no sense he would not be aware of these events either from sensing it(he should), or being told of it(he also should)which means his reaction to Qui Gon on TPM makes no sense.
@@andreix123Horrible if true, but I’ve got to think that’s a lie on their part. Where the hell did the budget go!? How much did Yoda Vs Sidious cost in 2005? Yoda standing there talking I’d assume to cost little in 2024. I think they just hate Lucas Star Wars, and wanted focus on their new green character.
An exasperated Thor "please make it make sense". Seeing a lot of complaints about the cortosis being used without any explanation or fore warning of it for fans who don't know about it.
general audiences will immediately think beskar. but i don't think general audiences are even watching this
It comes across as the show capitalizing on the general ignorance of the setting that was brought about by the 2014 continuity reboot. Because of the various misconceptions about the pre-2014 Expanded Universe, most people aren't going to bother doing their research.
Hey Thor: "Don't ask questions. Just enjoy product, and get excited fpr next product."
When the bugs took flew off with that dude I remembered that old Paul Simon song "Sith Slidin' Away" - yeah, I'm old af.
I'm trying so hard to have an open mind with every episode. And it's just absolutely baffling how poor the writing is. Feels like an 8-year old making it up as they go.
This is why so many people have gotten prejudicial about Star Wars productions, there's more than enough evidence that they have no idea what they are doing.
Sol is sith dudes Father... 16 years ago he did something regrettable with one of those witches like in dune... They used the red dust to make him think he was with someone he cared for.... I don't know none of it really makes sense to me.
I like your spirit! Perhaps the real mystery is how to make sense of this mess…
I like this theory. You thought about it more than the writers did.
😂
Hey Thor,
In episode 5, there is some bad and vague dialogue between Sol and the Sith. Three things stuck out to me.
1. Sol asks "what kind of master doesn't show their face to their pupil?" And Darth Zipper Face says "i should ask you" or something vague.
2. Zipper face says he's Sith and Sol asks, "why risk discovery?" like he knows they've been building in the shadows. And 3. Zipper face says, "I've accepted my darkness, what have you done with yours?" And it really sets Sol off. Again, all of this is really poorly written, but what are we supposed to glean from this in how it pertains to Sol? Any thoughts? Keep up the good work, man!
Here's the best way to tell if the show has us: If you put all of the characters shown on screen in the "Time to Die" Death Spinner, and push the "SPIN" button - who does it have to land on for you to - CARE. When I push the button on this program - I have NO OFF-LIMITS characters of any kind - except of course the ALREADY DEAD WOOKIE JEDI. ;)
When I had asked the question before the show came out, Thor said something along the lines that either Sol would think Mae was dead or it would be a completely stupid decision for him to not recognize his Padawan with the force. At first, Sol DID think that Mae was dead. Now it’s just sheer stupidity regardless..
I genuinely laughed so much throughout this episode because of the sheer incompetence both in and out of story.
Qimir is Darth Plagueis... the witches asked him to help create Osha and Mae. Thats what Mom #2 meant when she said something about the Jedi finding out about how the twins were created. Mae will kill Sol (without a weapon) when he admits to being responsible for their family's death, and implanting false memories into Osha. Plagueis will kill Mae and Osha but somehow absorb their force powers.
That would be a real tragedy.
@@JoRoq1 Boop-boop-be-doop it happens and f**k Star Wars
Disney has the car keys and a full tank of gas.. they can drive this franchise right off the cliff.
Nah, you're saying Qimir is going to live another what, 80 years? No, lol
Mae and OSHA will be hero's in the end and team up with the power of two to defeat the baddie. It's the seen it before redemption arc predictable from episode 1.
Your takes are amazing Thor, keep up the great work!
Love his content
Best Star Wars channel by a HUGE margin
@@SimplyJohn155 💯
Nocturnal bugs attracted to light, makes sense
You never seen a moth before?
@@chewybucca7703now i'm confused on if OP was being sincere or sarcastic.
Marki1498 I beg you please tell us more. This could be an IRL plothole.
I think the most likely scenario is that Smilo Ren is a former Jedi who left the order. If that were the case, he would know how to use the force, know how to build and use a lightsaber, and know what the Sith are. Maybe he was frustrated with the Jedi for not letting him use the dark side so now he’s adopting the title of Sith that he learned from his training. in the end, the Jedi will realize who he is and that will fix the plot hole about the Sith being gone for 1000 years, because he’s not a real Sith.
How is he more powerful / capable than nearly every other Darksider we’ve ever seen in the shows / movies, though ? The guy has a higher on-screen kill count of Jedi than Palps did in Episode-3 !? 😅
@@AlekTrev006 power creep\crap writing maybe? I don’t think any other theory could have a satisfactory answer to that question either
I've seen many theories. Most are good story ideas like yours and 0 have actually followed though in a good compelling way.
This is where new star wars is, the audience ideas are better than what's actually on screen.
Non-Binary Smilonary Ren
@@Sjcstro84 Idk, I think my theory is pretty plausible. One or two small canon mistakes are one thing, but the way they are blatantly rubbing it in our faces suggests they are doing it intentionally to entice a fan reaction. That makes me think they are anticipating the complaints, and have a solution that makes them seem unreasonable. The only thing that would make sense would be if the Jedi knew that he wasn’t a real sith. It also has an added benefit of making the villain look like a disgruntled ex-cop who is larping as a historical villain, which is on brand for the people making this show.
That said, I get where you’re coming from. It definitely seems like the fans could write a better story than anyone working at Lucasfilm
Qimir got defeated by the moth-lamp meme 😂
Naboo needs to make an updated Version of her jecki Song called " Jecki lon HAD it going on....
Love how I’m suddenly being filled with content on Twitter talking about how great the show is now. Where did they all come from
Toddlers love bright colors and action
This is just like when Hayden “vadered” in Ashoka during the world between worlds nonsense and everyone went ballistic for it
This video breakdown was the same length as the actual episode itself, and yet was more enjoyable lol.
Wild theory for fun: 16 years ago, witches use essence transfer into the Jedi. Then use a variant on the Sith Thought bomb on the rest of the coven. The twist is that one of the mothers transferred into Mae. “Sol” knew she would be ok falling from the bridge.
Interesting how Qimir doesn't have Sith eyes. Also, he's like a Senator Palpatine imitation, a bumbling, clumsy person on the outside, devil on the inside.
I'm pretty sure there is a technique, a SITH TECHNIQUE, that can mask the eyes. Both Palpy and Dooku did it too.
@@JakkMehoff Yes there is
wait didn't dooku mask his sith eyes?
@@rmw9420 Palpatine masked them, but I'm not sure about Dooku. I think Dooku may not have fallen that much into darkness.
@@dankokamcevski well i know his flared up every now and again but your probably right
This episode was visually great but the content within was so awful I would have turned it off if I wasn’t in shock of how bad it was.
it wasn’t _that_ bad… even discounting the lightsaber duels, at least things happen and the characters have semi-meaningful interactions 🤷🏻♂️
I couldnt see it. I saw black and some lights flashing about..
The sad thing is this is really the best episode of the season so far ONLY because of the lightsaber fight
This one ruined Darth Bane’s legacy
How?
You sound so done😭😭😭
Not really. Are you expecting him to act like goofy excited clown?
I can actually hear how his spirit breaks episode after episode.
Did you ever hear the story of Thor Skywalker The Resilient?
@@DarthKastosI have, actually. They say he could work a fence post like nobody else ever could!
I honestly thought episode 5 would be another completely flashback chapter. I would have bet the farm that the program was going to string the audience along.
Kudos to the program for not leaving us hanging on the episode 4 cliffhanger. 🎉🎉🎉
If Sol wasn't seen in the fight, it's because he dawned black robes and did all the master-level saber play.
Yes, he pretended to be a Sith (unless he actually is a Sith) during the fight.
It's a very old 'magic' trick to have two identical costumes and apply quick change artistry.
Sol could have changed after the initial force push that stirred up so much dust.
And changed back with Qimir towards the end of the choreography.
That's why Jecki was able to go head to head with Qimir initially.
I don't know why he would want to kill so many Jedi. Perhaps as a cover up, or being possessed by the Coven all along, or being a Sith who infiltrated the Jedi long ago.
I love the hallucinogenic dust making people crazy trope. Imagine this in season 3 of rebels, it would be a perfect episode because we know the characters fears and weaknesses and the hallucinogen could bring those out to the forefront and force the characters to confront them. It would work brilliantly as a show idea if we knew anything about any of the characters. Unfortunately we don't.
I feel like Sol is going to die. He can't live after Jason Mendoza told him he is a Sith. That's how they are going to rectify the Ki Adi Mundi thing.
I quit.
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Aside from Yord and Sol, Pip is the only being that OSHA has a relationship with and has presumably had for many years.
It makes sense that she'd worry about the little droid first when she regained consciousness. 🤔🤖
She stuck pip to the back of the sith guy so the moths could get him no?
@@Sjcstro84it would have been really funny if after the sith got picked up into the air flown away osha would have yelled "SELF DESTRUCT NOW PIP!!" and we see a faint flash through tree line
@@rmw9420 lmao 🤣 another character we hardly cared about bites the dust. Que osha tiling her head w a blank stare.
Spot on with pretty much everything here. I'd like to add a few enhancing points to some stuff mentioned.
1: Look at how Mando was limping after hitting himself with the darksaber in the leg. Or that Obi Wan fight in the PT, I think it was AotC Dooku? The one where he gets his leg sliced and he's out of the fight. What's up with Yord then?
2: I agree with Qimir spilling some beans to Osha about what happened with Sol & the coven after that obvious setup with her questioning Sol. However, it's an equal opportunity to have Sol explain to Mae what happened, as he promised. Seemingly he can't tell it's not Osha after all. It's right in line with what they've been trying to do in this show. Since there's only three episodes left, maybe it'll be a split perspective single. I can't see them spending two on that again.
Tangent on Mae's decision making. Who in the hell thought up that plot point? I'm gonna turn myself in and betray you. Oh shit he's here and trying to kill me. I'll try apologizing, oh he still wants to kill me. Now he doesn't want to kill me, oh nevermind he actually does. I'll just go kill the Jedi myself, and pull a switcheroo. Maybe he'll kill Osha instead, after I just told her I love her. Somebody nominate this for an awards show.
Anyway, My thoughts: this show is pretty below average at best. Is it a 13%, maybe not. I think a 30% or a little lower is more in line. There's a little bit of good sprinkled in here & there. Sol is about the only character that isn't dull and uncompelling, well I guess Qimir's got over the top going for him. The plot/story is nonsensical and bland. The sets can be kinda cool, the action is pretty good if at times marred by bad direction/cuts/etc. Choreography is pretty great though. The dialogue is really bad, like middle/high school level. And not the talented kids in high school. It breaks longstanding canon & misuses other parts it doesn't outright contradict. The CGI is not particularly good. I won't even get into the culture war stuff but it's there. I'm just not seeing where that nearly $200 million budget went to.
What's not to like? This show is great. Absolutely doesn't miss on any level.
It was sad when jecki died, not because she was a good character, but because she never got to hear sailor naboos song
I love how in this giant light saber fight they still have the two Asian guys get into a fist fight
I'm sure Jecki will heal and then pop her claws and go berserk.
Wrong franchise my guy.
No ones ever really gone…except Queen Amidala and Han Solo😔
@@KRobinson-ko1neand Qui Gon… the only dude to stay dead from a lightsaber stab to the abdomen
So, she's Steppenwolf lol?
I laughed when Jeki and Gonk died especially the neck crack
good on you if you can keep caring but I'm just done with Star Was.
Consider this... There's a movie about martial-arts-cops everyone really likes, the cops are the main hero and point of identification for 80%+ of the fans. Why in hell would the IP owner come out with a show in which t he hero martial-arts-cops are completely worthless against ONE GUY. Only plot-armor can save the life of one cop. It's asinine... no one wants this, and Leslie "half-rancor" Headland LIED TO US ALL WHEN SHE HAD THE NERVE TO SAY "starwars saved my life" - bullshit, I do not believe that for one second. I hope the epic shitting all over this does indeed make her very very sad indeed. I feel bad for most of the actors, but I hope the paychecks were worth it.
So they can hire a fight coordinator, BFD, anyone can do that.
ALSO - I do not support shows that just murder characters in order to make it a "big deal" - that's just cheap garbage
How weak to give up.
@@achaudhari101 yeah, weak like water 🌊
@@daruekeller Weak like the French in war to be exact.
When he cut those trees down...all the trees fell in the wrong direction.
I don't know why of all things, that stood out to me...
In addition to everything you mentioned.
Wait...if Qemir was there 16 years ago...wouldn't that make him like...10 years old?
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hey thor - qimir gets to his second lightsaber by twisting his hilt. master rwoh gets her whip by doing the same. coincidence? or....a construction technique passed from a master to an apprentice.....
“Something smells like burning Wookie around here?” - Sol to Mae after she lightsaber haircuts herself to look like Osha.🤗
I am actively rooting for Qimir here, my ideal ending for this show is at the end, Osha, Mae, Jecki, Yord, and Vernestra dead, and Qimir and Sol getting killed by a real Sith Lord. So after this episode we have a good start to that.
You know this show give more reason why the Jedi should police the force from those who misuse it for malicious and selfish intentions seeing how this episode went.
And none of this would have happened if Sol and his Jedi group had taken Qimir into custody in the apothecary.😂😂😂🤦♂️
Mae is a truly bizarre character. Constantly U-turning.
To be fair, she is at least consistent in her inconsistency. From the time she was a child she was bi-polar, and that has not changed since she grew up.
She's Lesbey Headberg's self insert.
Now you know why Lesbian relationships typically don't last.
Watch Jecki come back as a force ghost 🙄
I'm not sure how Darth Smiley could even see out of his Cortosis helmet, especially in the dim light of the planet, but it's really sad that all lightsaber battles now have to take place in low lighting as the modern lightsaber props are just fancy glow sticks and only show up in dim light.
Damn these casuals LOL. You guys don't know Star Wars. Force users are trained to fight blind. Watch A New Hope.😂
@@gardogodinez6621 except he clearly says he won't remove the helmet bc then sol would read his mind. So it blocks the force but only one way? I guess us casuals won't ever figure out the brilliance of one way glass that allows the force to pass through from one direction but not the other.
@@gardogodinez6621 it's okay to like this shit. But don't try and call other ppl out as casuals when they ask legitimate questions about it's failings.
@@TitusAndromadonSith alchemy, idk.
@@gardogodinez6621you missed the point of that scene in ANH entirely. That scene doesn’t imply that force wielders don’t use their eye sight at all
Always two there are, except for inquisitors, acolytes, darkside force users... Ok, think of it, come to, more than two there are.
Two Sith, not Dark Siders in general.
Looks are pretty terrible too. I love how every still I have seen from ep5 has been brightened by people reposting them because the episode is so incredibly dark.
If they hadn't had lightsabers to provide illumination, it would have been the Battle of Winterfell all over again.
I know!
Every series has been so dark…visually! It’s so dark you can’t see a damn thing!
It’s like they didn’t want any cgi to look to obvious so they shrouded everything in darkness
Fix your display settings. I could see perfectly fine.
There was nothing dark about these shots. Adjust your TV.
Your tv or phone is just shit, looked absolutely fine, lol
The poster that you used in your cover image is a giveaway as to everyone's position in the storyline. The Sith is there, but not the image of the person who is it's secret identity. His picture should be included in the characters but it's missing, an obvious giveaway as to the secret identity. The presence of the witch mother, appearing dominantly over everyone and everything else is also significant and most likely another major giveaway.
Some individual portions of the saber fights were good, but overall the choreography/performance was bad. TLJ throne room bad. It distracts with the pretty lights and useless flourishes, but the overall fight made no sense when you focus on the specific moves and tactics used. Once again, the needs of the story forced the character's actions so that the desired endpoint was reached.
At least getting stabbed by a lightsaber is lethal again. Of all the D+ shows, this is the one that got it right? Completely ironic, especially because it was a product of the bad writing (needing the slaughter to advance the story) instead of a truly considered decision.
You must be in the minority with this duel.
So far this is my favorite episode, because of the fighting. I was able to shut my brain off to the plot, until they started talking again.
Though as Jedi were getting stabbed I did say out loud, "Oh they'll survive." Then those two Jedi who were impaled and got decapitated I said, "Yeah, they're dead."
maul got cut in half. no one is ever truly gone
@@rmw9420It's not a question about what Maul survived, but that his resurrection was a retcon: For over a decade, there was no indication that he was still alive despite numerous occasions where the characters would have pretty good reasons to bring him up.
I think one of the biggest problems of the show is the same thing killing almost all modern 8 episode shows. The pacing. There is too much story to make an intense and thrilling movie length event. But there is too little to make a full show. They either need to have more time to flesh out the damn story and build to events organically, or trim the fat and tighten things off.
Oddly enough, I think the Obi Wan show was better than most in that regard. It told a single clear story (rescue Leia) along with 2 sub plots (Reva's revenge and Obi Wan confronting Vader to get over his funk). It didn't feel like they were so much killing time or rushing things in the way the Acolyte did.
I dislike some major elements of Obi Wan and his characterisation in the show, and think having another Vader/Obi fight is a major problem for the grander story of SW. But in concept the show had the right idea.
Andor was even better in pacing as it slowly built things in the background so that when characters make their big decisions it feels earned and it makes sense. In 4 episodes on the prison arc Kino is given a full characterisation, an arc and this is used to again build Andor towards becoming the rebel we know he can become. Try to tell that story in more episodes, or cram it inot 2, and it breaks.
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The Cortosis part is weird to me. I understand it is present in other Star Wars books, but it's never appeared in Star Wars film before, so it was super confusing to me. I thought he cut the lightsaber in half at first and then couldn't figure out wtf was happening. I feel like it should have had some sort of explanation.
I can’t say I had loved the show up until now and I still got A LOT of criticisms towards it. But credit where credit is due: Jecki absolutely KICKED BUTT.
Her fights were THE BEST, period! And her demise was the only one with the SLIGHTEST weight to it.
If only they had let Luke do half of this in the sequels. Or anyone for that matter.
After the Jedi found out of his involvement with Mae, Qimir should've been arrested back when he was pretending to be an apothecary.
First time not watching a show, but listening to the reviews is actually excellent.
According to SW Theory, the actual fights when broken down dont even make sense, like Qimir literally has MULTIPLE openings that could have been exposed, so even from an objective and non-lore, non-woke viewpoint this show is bad. And that was supposedly the best part!