How Daniel Ricciardo’s fixing the bad F1 habits that shocked Red Bull
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- Опубліковано 30 тра 2024
- When Daniel Ricciardo returned to Red Bull for the first time after his four-year absence, he was not the same Formula 1 driver - and not in a good way.
It was an unofficial but quietly understood truth in the F1 paddock early this year that Ricciardo had been back on the Red Bull simulator and struggled.
Two years at McLaren apparently had quite a negative impact. But how bad was it? What’s the prognosis a few months later? And what does it mean for Ricciardo’s chances of getting back on the grid?
00:00 Not the same driver
00:26 Bad habits
03:17 What's he doing now?
05:16 A race return?
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"Look what they did to my boy"
-Horner
Please don't give Horner more to complain about.
@@chrisweston9764 shuuush mate
😂
@@chrisweston9764 Hahahaha
Man that gave me a nice chuckle 🤣
Man I hope Ricciardo gets his shit together, he was such a monster with the right car
Even when he was a monster excluding frequent mechanical dnfs Verstappen was able to extract more from the car more often.
@@Venus-jb6el why you hating rick we not saying his better then max ... dont need that shit jsut leave him alone
@@Venus-jb6el you just can't resist the urge to fan girl and compare drivers every post?
- can be said about any driver
I mean, everybody is a monster in the right car, but he isn't as good as Lando. McLaren developed around Lando because he was the only able to adapt to McLaren's car, meaning that he could be a beast in ANY car. Ricciardo is just mid.
I dont like the Redbull leadership but them taking care of Riccardo like this is something that really warms my heart. Loyalty and being a good person does seem to go a long way! Glad to see Riccardo doing better
To me the Redbull leadership doesn't look much worse than any other team on the grid and it's clearly magnitudes better than the Ferrari leadership.
Good call, agree.
to be fair, they're notorious for getting rid of low performers too. ricciardo to me seems like their insurance
sounds like you like the redbull leadership and how they take of ricciardo in a heartwarming manner
The damage to his style was interesting to see with the RB SIm work. Glad to hear he can revert back towards his more natural style.
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Shows how people like Lando or Alonso are on a whole different level to Danny, yes Danny can do good in a perfect car but Alonso and Lando can get every last bit out of any car
@@The_MostHigh Norris couldn't even beat Sainz, who got trounced by Hulkenberg, who got trounced by Ricciardo. Norris also lost to Russell in F2, who's now beating Hamilton, who beat Alonso in the same car. This is not an apples v apples situation. Different environments and cars cater to different drivers and styles. No driver is a second faster than another driver and no driver just forgets how to drive, especially a proven race winner, that's highly regarded as one of the best in the previous year.
@@colejones6312 ^ this is what i CONSTANTLY try to tell new f1 fans but they just don’t get it. You don’t just “forget” how to drive
@@colejones6312 Blame Mclaren all you want Danny got embarrassed by Lando, if i had a F1 team i would want a driver that can get the most out of any machinery as the car is going to be changing throughout the year with development etc. Lando, Russel, Alonso even Sainz have proved time and time again they will get the most out of any machinery. They are on another level compared to Danny who can only perform when the car is setup/developed perfectly for him
The fact that he managed to win a race in a mclaren driving so consciously and opposite to his instincts is actually so impressive
I love RIC but his stint there was anything but impressive. Anyone can win one race, ask Maldonado
Yet here lando is without a single one
@@omnitraveller True, but when the chance shows itself one still has to grab it.
If you look at his best overtakes, he usually dive bombs and locks up atleast one tire momentarily before letting go of the brake and flying out the corner exit. He’s not used to trusting his brakes the past few years
Very true! He’s had some ballsy overtakes because of his braking style.
@@naveenbenjamin9930 Now he had to change his overtake skill as every riders can learn his overtake skill and figure a way to prevent it happen
"the last of the late brakers" comes to mind
It wasn't his overtaking that was the problem at any point. He was just slower than everyone else. Overtaking maneuvers have nothing to do with your racing line. Aero and other characteristics of the cars have a massive role in what you can and cannot do when it comes to overtaking. RB and even the old renault car were much more front heavy cars than McLaren. That's why you wouldn't even see Ricciardo attempt that kind of dive bombs with the Mac. Low aero = longer braking distance, and that is just one piece of the whole that affects it.
Do you know how aerodynamics work, because what you just said was absolute stupidity
Crazy how such a good driver can lose it in such a short period of time.
I mean, its a sport... it happens in other sports. NFL Quarterbacks one day go from being solid to washed up (Matt Ryan).
The only thing that seems different from the racers 30+ vs those in their early/mid 20s and all the F2 guys... all the young guys have done thousand upon thousands of hours already in iRacing/other sims. Is it the same as actually driving a car? No. But they've had just more "racing experience" than DR. DR hasn't been in a series with equal equipment in over a decade.
@@atkascha I realized all the new young drivers that are extremely quick like Leclerc, Norris, Russel, Max, all simrace day in and day out. You can just put so many more hours on a game then you can in real life. It goes to show how good drivers like Hamilton and Vettel were considering they didn’t drive simulators
@@blenzo8344 I don’t think sim”racing” has that big an influence, it’s more that they drive a lot more in the F1 simulator.
But both Vettel and Hamilton drove/drive simulators (although it is know that Lewis himself didn’t want to drive the sim that much, which has changed over the last few years). On top of that, they had access unlimited amounts of testing in up-to-date cars before they even got a race seat, which current era rookies can only dream off, they get a couple days in a previous generation car and a rookietest, and maybe a couple of tyretests in current era cars, and potentially 2-3 FP1 sessions. That’s it.
Current era rookies almost have to drive the sim a lot, because otherwise it’s just “off to wintertesting you go, good luck, don’t crash!”
It happens a lot.
He was solid but was never really close to the true top drivers anyway.
Bring back the overtaking legend, that'll certainly add some excitement if he gets back on the grid with a car that suits him
Yep I agree, kamui kobayashi needs to have a seat
Put anyone in the Red Bull and it would be exciting. Daniel made a terrible decision to leave RB in the first place and his career paid the price, I'm sorry but he really doesn't need to get another chance and RB would only risk that if they lost a driver and were absolutely desperate
Yeh on paper this season would be great for him, the cars are close and close racing is actually possible. kinda sad that he's uncomfortable in the current concept. I hope he finds a groove in these cars.
Pretty sure the problem was the McLaren and not "these cars".
They would still be at 0 points if not for the destruction derby in Melbourne.
@@miguelmota5980 pretty sure the problem was ricciardo because norris was very far ahead of him
This makes me wonder how Lando Norris would perform at another team. Is the McLaren just coincidentally ideally suited to him, or is he more adaptable than Danny Ricc? Only the future will tell
Also now James Key is out will McLaren listen more to driver feedback and adapt the car towards how they want it? Lando did not like how the McLaren drove either and that was becoming more clear with his comments towards the end of 2022. I also wonder if Lando and Daniel had less juice to affect the car balance and development path than other drivers because of the nature of their personalities.
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Been wondering this for a while. Everyone says he’s amazing but he’s only driven an understeering McLaren his whole career. Need to see more
@@MostViewedTop40 Funny thing to me is, hire a good driver like Danny and then don't listen to him? Just say here's your formulaic car, go drive it. Strange management policy.
It needs to be remembered that you don’t win a world championship by being fast in a slow car. You need to be a fast driver in a fast car. It is a worry for Norris that the more time he spends in the badly handling and slow McLaren the more risk there is that the weird driving style that works in the McLaren may become ingrained. Only time will tell.
Even with a spotty reputation of fair treatment towards their drivers, the fact that Red Bull optioned to take him in and basically run him through rehabilitation shows you just how much they do care and believe in him. Kudos to Christian and team for recognizing the need for this.
When Andrea Stella was asked how much input Lando and Piastri had in this years car. He basically said none! We engineers have all the data we need to make decisions on design and setup. They will go nowhere with that attitude.
@@golanheights9000 it honestly doesn't matter who's driving the car, McLaren right now is just total dog. They should have signed up Schumacher and Mazepin, they would have gotten the same results as Haas lol
Mercedes tried this and not listened to Ham feedback. And we can see how they are going with this aproach. If only data was enough all fighter planes would already be automated in elite air forces.
@@golanheights9000 Lando has regularly outperformed the majority of the midfield over the last several seasons, Piastri is brand new. Not sure what you're on about
@@Sauceyjames This pair won't work trust me
My only McLaren based point of observation would be in wondering if the reason they don't accept much in terms of driver input is the driver(s) doing the inputting aren't able to intelligently articulate their problems with the car (classically) and how that affects engineers taking input from the drivers in the first place.
*edit* Further example of an argument suggesting their engineering team putting the cart before the horse would be that they tried changing Ricciardo's driving style to match the car.
He shot himself in the foot by leaving Renault. Undoing the fallout of that is a very tall order.
He shot himself in the foot by leaving Red Bull.
There, I fixed it for you.
Renault/Alpine are going nowhere. They’ve been on a perpetual “5-year plan” ever since coming back to F1 and they have not even sniffed the top of the order except in unusual circumstances like Hungary. He signed on with the promise that they would actually try to win championships, not just “best of the rest”, but upper management always finds some way to undercut that.
McLaren IS trying to win championships. They’re doing a bad job of it, but they’re not lying when they talk about it. And they did look to be on the right path when Renault was stalling out. Unfortunately that was the result of getting their hands on the Merc PU when it was a rocket and Ferrari getting the nerf hammer at the same time, making it appear that they were much more competitive than they actually are.
And RB had already shown their hand when they backed Max over Daniel after the Baku crash, even though they later admitted that it was Max’s fault. Let’s not pretend that RB is a totally objective, fair organization based around open competition. It’s Max’s team. They can’t even get him to listen to team orders when the points mean absolutely nothing to him.
So what choices did Daniel have? What teams would have been a better situation for him in 2018 and 2020?
@@michael-masi-2021 Well, no.
Ricciardo had ambitions of winning the title. You won't do that at a team where you're the number 2.
@@arfived4 a #2 at a winning team has a better shot at the championship than a #1 in the midfield. It would have been a Lewis - Nico situation.
@@michael-masi-2021 He would become the next Mark Webber if he stayed at Red Bull.
When you have a driver like Daniel it’s VERY hard to change driving habits when you’ve been racing as long as he is. When you consciously have to think about every action you take in the car you’re already doing it all too slow. It takes so much time to build good muscle memory definitely more than the two years he had at McLaren. Hope he can get back into a seat he’s satisfied with
So he is a good not great driver.
@@jayman81424 to be able to completely change driving techniques from decades of racing would take an a legendary driver. its very hard to do the opposite of your technique in a few years
@@jayman81424 The only genuine "great" driver on the grid is Alonso: who can seemingly get the best out of any car he drives...even probably doing better than should've been expected in that shitty McLaren in his second stint there.
Thats what happens when Sensei ask me to fight under karate sports rules. I spend more time thinking about what i cannot do than fighting. Quick decisions in sports need to me made by instinct, theres not enough time to concious thinking.
@@jordanwardle11 You have to at minimum be serviceable. He got absolutely destroyed for two years. So again, Daniel is a good driver, but he is not great.
Ricciardo: Max took everything from me!
Kvyat: Not everything.
Lol good one
Lol
@@SiegfriedDerDrachentoter good friends in the media, never trust anyone who smiles all day long
Damn. That's really all you can say to that. Just.
Damn.
@A Z can you be ever more misogynistic pls
Who else is hoping for some unexpected driver movements in silly season to open up some unexpected options for Ricciardo in 2024? 🤞
Ok it’s unlikely, but I desperately want Lance stroll fired, because Aston could be fighting for world championships with another good driver.
Maybe swap him with perez after summer break 2023
boy do i have some good news
I do not like Horner, but my respect for him after taking in Daniel has skyrocketed. Well done Red Bull, sincerely, a Mercedes Fan.
He's a shit stirrer, but let's not downplay how we was able to bring together one of the most dominant teams of the last two decades from a backmarker. Redbull used to be a laughing stock when they started. He sought out the right talent in both drivers and engineers. To add to this, the Redbull team seems genuinely well put together and happy. Compare that to the politics of Ferrari and the convoluted structure McLaren had.
@@nvcnc I cannot complain about his operational control of the organization at all. I think he runs like a great team. I think we can all agree that Mclaren is a terrible place to be a driver like Daniel. I was very happy to see him get away from there.
Horner is perhaps the greatest team principal of all time. Definitely better than Ron Dennis at managing drivers, and less criminal than Flavio. Maybe only Jean Todt is ahead of him.
😂
@@JohnFromAccounting He is good but I would put Toto ahead of him.
this aged well.
This video has aged incredibly well lmao
Like fine wine
Christian Horner likes whichever driver is fastest, but I've always felt like he cares for Ricciardo beyond that. Maybe like how Enzo Ferrari felt something special with Gilles Villeneuve. I think Horner genuinely wants Ricciardo to do well.
Who's here after Daniel is back in the Alpha
Seeing daniel being happy again and back to the driving style he does before he joined McLaren is just a really good news for me to hear
I really miss the Ricciardo that I remember. He stormed onto the scene and was making Vettel look bad to the point he ran off to Ferrari because he knew Danny was a better driver. He’s a great talent, but more importantly he’s a good guy to have around.
Bro nobody compares to SEB , even seb was a monster with the right car ,Look seb adapted to Ferrari , won at Ferrari multiple times, look at Daniel, I love him but if he was a better driver than seb he should have adapted like Seb did . Don't ever compare a man with 4 titles 53 race wins and 4 constructors championship to a man with 9 wins and . SEB is a legend 🤌🏼💪🏼🐐
He seems like himself again. Never thought I would be happy to see him back at RedBull. Hope we see him race again, and win!
Ain't gonna happen, sorry.
nah, it's over mate. he blew it.
Love the value he brings to the team.
Not surprised he put alot of weight in his instincts and polished them incredibly well, but that McLaren (which Lando once again said is super hard to drive) was against every single fiber of Riccardos style.
But I'm sure he can come get back into the swing of it.
As Josh and Many other have said
Form is temporary but, talent is permanent
Lando has only started saying that now it's apparent his car he developed as lead driver is a shitbox.
He did the same thing less obviously last year when he claimed daniel wants understeer. He's blaming other people and he's getting louder in it now the only driver to blame is him.
Best wishes to one of (if not "the") best personalities on the grid.
Broke my heart to see him struggling so much those past 2 years.
He has such a contagious smile. No matter where the future takes him, I'm just glad Daniel Riccardo is still here. 🎉 F1 needs characters like him.
*Aug edit: after what he did to De Vries, I don't see Daniel the same way. Don't need to be a Mean Girl in order to get your drive. Even Mazepin had more time & opportunity than Nyck had. Hope it works out for Ric and AP.
Daniel is a duche bag
"We can rebuild him. We have the technology."
-Horner, probably
Well done there.
Watching this right after he got his seat at alpha tauri
Having Simon Rennie (who was Danny Ric's race engineer at Red Bull and Renault) head of the simulator also helped with Danny Ric getting comfortable and helping him break the bad habbits had got at McLaren
@therace your channel is the best for F1 News. Most others just have click bait and talk shit for 4 mins straight. You have the best insight and I actually feel like I know something that others are talking about!
Keep it up mate
I believe we have yet to see the best of Ricciardo. I hope there is light at the end of the tunnel for him. Such a likeable & capable driver.
This video has the best casually understandable explanation I've ever heard for why not every driver can drive every car well.
And the struggle that driving an unsuitable car can cause for some drivers was also explained quite well. They can't always just simply snap back into form when put into a car that fits them.
But I do think versatility is also an important driver quality. Someone like Alonso can extract the most out of even the most undrivable shitbox, while Ricciardo, while being undoubtedly a talented and fast driver, does need a suitable machinery to perform at his top form.
"Negotiated an early exit from his McLaren contract" is a really kind way of saying he got pushed out.
Well, perhaps. But they pay him 25 million to not drive this year. I would have signed that too 😂
Very interesting, informative and well-edited (imo) video.
Thank you.
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glad you guys touched this content. liked it
He basically became the 2nd Vettel, was dominant in his prime for a few years then followed by a huge downfall once they both left RedBull , so what we have learned ? Is that grass is not always greener on the other side
Vettel was still a title challenger despite Ferrari's clown show of management and strategy. I wouldn't really call that a "huge downfall" also considering that Vettel finished ahead of Ricciardo in the standings more often after leaving RBR. 2019 and 2020 weren't good seasons for Seb, but he managed to get AMR on the podium. Daniel did a good job at Renault and I had high hopes for him at McLaren. I think we all did. I'm really curious how RBR's driver training programme differs from McLaren. Is it a team mindset thing, a technology or personnel resource thing. or is Daniel just better suited for that type of car? Interesting stuff.
@@mogwix mate, vettel lost the 2018 on his own by constant driving errors dont Blake the team they gave him the fastest csr in the grid, and his aston martin days he was just very mid and barely beated stroll
@@hugofernandez3845this is just straight up incorrect. you should feel ashamed tbh
@@mogwix Vettel bottled 2018. Put Alonso, Max, Ricciardo or Hamilton in that car, and they would have won.
@@JohnFromAccounting put any of them in that car and they would've been beaten by Raikkonen, let's be real here.
I would like to see Danny Ric in Alpha Tauri next year...Checo doesn't deserve to lose his seat at Red Bull and Max isn't going anywhere anytime soon
Honestly true. The only driver I can see retiring in the next years could be LH, and that's a LONG shot. DR won't drive in the bottom 4, and sadly the alpha Tauri is also definitely not in top shape. Aston won't take him since Alonso won't budge and Lance is basically the owner of the team
Guess what
@@vasikan3502 my prophecy became true 2 months later mate lol
I love this consistent content
I don't care if he gets out on the track or not. If it doesn't happen though I certainly hope he sticks around in one way or another. He's such a great personality around the paddock and it's a personality that most drivers are missing.
Lando claimed last year daniel wanted understeer, despite everyone knowing daniel drove better with oversteer at RB and Renault. Lando is now claiming the car is bad, having been the only driver involved in developing it. What's the pattern here? Lando's bad feedback being the actual problem. Danny should have never listened to Zac.
Returning to the grid with Alpha Tauri in 2025 and then moving to Red Bull for 2026 is about the most likely way of seeing him back at the front. Even then, Red Bull might fancy Lando Norris instead considering Norris likes the same "on the nose" car setup that Max does.
no bad
Given that AT is going to be a copy of RB next year, it may be very well the way he's going to go. I think he may be there next year.
@@MihneaStoian Ricciardo likely to be on Alpha Tauri but he will not in Red Bull
Because he is going to set a retirement after the season and go to Indy car. He not young anymore
Or Alonso retires and he’s the new AM driver…
He even looks younger! It shows that Mclaren was a car that was hard to drive. Even doesn’t lando can’t get a consistent drive out of it. I questions Rico choice at the time but I now think it’s going to be invaluable.
Even Carlos Sainz said the 2020 mclaren was a hard car to get the hang of and that was before all the car changes came in 2021 and 22, We only seen flashes of the old Danny Ric like Mexico 2022
I hope so much that this is not all for nothing.
Because this arc just is starting to look so damn juicy and deserved.
I am not you guys noticed but around 3:11 the footage is a bit mangled and bruised a little...
That clip was showing daniels driving style which is why it has the text and looks weird when they say his style was mangled
Think that was a visual metaphor, no?
@@mikespearwood3914 Probably not but the timing was impeccable. 😄
nice analysis
3:08 - Was that Danny's brain when driving a McLaren?
That would be anyones brain driving a tractor with a mclaren badge on it
@@jimbo1058 so you’re saying lando is truly exceptional then…
@@renlysotherlover294 Nah, Lando only knows McLaren. Literally the only F1 car he's experienced, so has a natural advantage in that regard.
It's been confirmed he's going to AlphaTauri, hopefully he proves that he can perform better than Checo, although Checo is a good #2 driver and a team player. I really hope he can show that he deserves the RedBull seat.
I know it won't happen, but would love to see Daniel alongside Alonso at a competitive Aston Martin.
those two would cook so hard if they got together. could easily push for a constructors title together if the car was good enough
@@willlashley1378 Alonso is going to beat Ricciardo like hell
Alonso qualify top 7 while Ricciardo struggle to make it out of Q1
@@luuduonghy659 if you’ve watched F1 for more than 2 years you’d know that the real Ricciardo, not whatever the fuck came out of Mclaren, would have no problems keeping up with Alonso on raw pace. if they were both given a car they could thrive in, they would be dead even
@@willlashley1378 as an Alonso fan i think it would be so interesting to see Daniel alongside him, they are both proven fast drivers and It would certanly be close. That being said i think Alonso is maybe a couple of steps forward on whatever is this alien drivers are made of
@@Thejogasa02 there is just something about Alonso that’s just different about him from the other drivers on the grid. whether it’s the fact he’s been here now for so long and is still so damn good idk. i can’t remember who said it, (i think it was Zhou Guanyu) whoever it was, they said that Alonso only has to use about 30% of his energy to drive the car fast, and the other 70% goes into mind games and strategy to give him an edge over the drivers around him. Paul Ricard last season was a great example of this as well, he completely toyed with the Mclarens behind him and ruined their strategy. he just operates on another level mentally from the rest of the grid, and that’s including drivers like Hamilton and Verstappen
Heartbreaking information in all honesty, hope he does have one more chance in F1 after this.
I just hope he gets back on the grid...
Noooooo
@Ash No he isn't.
If Nico can then Daniel definitely can
@@MDE_never_dies How can you not like Riccardo??
Yes, I hope he switches west with Perez🎉
Black n yellow Renault was beautiful
I wonder how the differences in McLaren's pedal setup (specifically the brake pedal with longer travel / more sensitive) has played a role in DR struggling.
Pato O'ward said he was actually braking too hard when he had a run in the '21 McLaren compared to indycar.
Interesting nonetheless.
I really, really hope he can get his feeling for driving fast back. I like the way he drives when feeling good in a car, he made such good passes and moves in the past.
Daniel and Max both at RBR again going at it, that would be quite nice to see. I think a good Daniel will be better then a good Segio to be honest. though Sergio certainly isn't a pushover either.
Daniel wouldn't know which way Sergio went, not in the same league!, and I'm aussie, Daniel was an imposter in a magic car thanks to Red Bull.
I miss DR3, hoping he can bounce back and get on the grid again
I for one hope and think Red Bull hopes Ricciardo shows enough promise to claim that seat next to Max.
aka: there is no way for him to get back into f1 for what he wants. the guy is finished at the top. why would the team that has just gotten the TP from his previous drive in a even more powerful position want him back?
THE RACE, ya called it on Nick!
I think he's got two hopes:
Sauber/Audi - Him and maybe Hulkenberg by 2026
Alpha Tauri (if the team is sold) - Redbull could make him a package deal along to whoever buys the team as a staple driver
2026 very unlikely a new team would pick a 37 year old driver
But I wish to see Daniel soon on track
@@adityajain401 I know, but if he gets in while it's Sauber and they like the results they're seeing maybe they keep him on for Audi. May be unlikely due to interest in that seat come 2026 and the drivers market. Depends upon drivers like Norris staying with Mclaren and Leclerc sticking with Ferrari.
@@KillZoneHart1 Danny Ric and Hulkenberg would be quite an old lineup for Audi. Unless you mean _or_ .
@@soundscape26 I'm just saying Hulkenberg because Audi will probably want a German driver in their lineup. He's a stable pair of hands and Mick Schumacher is a bit unproven as a German alternative.
@@KillZoneHart1 I can quickly see them dropping the German driver thing if they look around and don't see any interesting options. Hulkenberg might work as a senior driver but at 38 he will excite absolutely nobody and as for Mick, he has 2024 and 2025 to make a case for himself. He's already 24 can't be sidelined for 3 seasons in a row.
This video has aged very well… 😂
0:55 lmao this is awesome
I’d love to see him race again
ricardo is in the second tier of drivers who cant apadt well or take lots of time. Russel, verstap, alonso , leclerc and norris are the top tier who can get in any car and drive it beyond its capabilities.
I think one more year out of f1 could be beneficial! Have a run at the Triple Crown since you've already got a Monaco GP win. I'm sure a front running Le Mans team would bite RB's hand off to sign him up and a front runner in Indycar would find him a seat for the 500 if there was enough money. Between projects he could find an opening for the 2025 grid!
It'd actually be fairly interesting to see him in an Indycar, considering their handling characteristics seem to mirror his preferences almost exactly. They have extremely strong initial turn in, give very clear feedback to the driver, and most importantly, are fastest when pushed to the ragged edge of traction. Grosjean, for example, absolutely loves them because they're constantly squirming around ever so slightly, but in a way that's predictable and easily controllable.
@@griffinfaulkner3514 pretty sure Ricciardo has said he's not interested in oval racing because finds it too dangerous. unfortunately that takes out both the triple crown and indie car from his possibilities.
@@LiteDisc Neither was Grosjean, and INDYCAR goes to a ton of road courses. For his first year, Grosjean had someone take over the car for the ovals, and I don't see why Ricciardo couldn't do the same
Now to translate in a more driver terminology on what I just heard. McLaren needed to trailbrake more into the corner because it had understeer. The problem with that, is it is hard to be consistent with that lap after lap but more importantly it changes the platform of the car affecting the aero. Red Bull has a better handling car so you can release the brake earlier to roll more speed and don't need to carry brake to turn. That will always be faster, basic traction circle. Max lateral G will be when you have very little long G added. There is a time and place for trailbraking but it shouldn't be the only way to drive a car.
This is a good thing and bad thing I think… good because he’s getting back to his former shape that he was known for but it also shows he’s not as adaptable as teams might want him to be.
the description of Danny's time at McLaren sounds a lot like my experiences with toxic employers tearing me down.
This video aged well
We should not forget before Daniel left, Max became almost unbeatable and was getting the primary support of the team.
Also, he left just before the Honda engine came in. At that time it was not at all known if this engine would become better or would take RB down.
So Daniel leaving RB was a sensible decision from that point of view. He was doing well at Renault.
I can’t wait to see him succeed again. He’ll be back!
All this shows me is that it has become clearer, as his career has progressed, that he is not an adaptive driver.
It's not that at all. Going from so many teams that quickly, all with different engines and car types AND with all these cars changing so much. Daniel has pretty much lost his driving style because he HAS had to adapt that much.
In my opinion hes a second rate driver. What I mean by that is that he isnt on the level of schumacher or senna, and especially not on the technical side with hamilton. I believe that he can be a little better with that if he studies more about the car and like lewis helps more with the car setup and evolution. Sencerely a DR fanboy
Edit: Of course hes quick as hell when the setup is right but idk what will happen in this era of cars where theyre fat as hell and dont really fit his diving style anyways
@@temp0theman830 Hamilton isn't a technical driver? Daniel is basically classified as one. Having wdc and a big name isn't an argument. No offense to you but I think your understanding of the sporting side is blindsighted by the results side.
Also Lewis doesn't help with the car either, that's mainly Russell. Hes well documented and outspoken about it. Every team has 1 off, 1 on.
@@SiegfriedDerDrachentoter I’m a big Ricciardo fan but he’s right. Adaptability is just another skill that some drivers exhibit more than others - Alonso and Schumacher are great examples. It’s the same that some drivers are great at tyre management or qualifying.
@@joetri10 You're so wrong. Hamilton is extremely famous for long nights of feedback developing the car.
welcome back, Danny
I have to ask, is 3rd driver can drive a car in fp? If it possible this can be the way to recovery his driving style
Christian has said he won't fo an FP1 this year, but he will drive it in the tyre tests, so we will get a chance to see him in an RB19.
Curious how lando would do in another team based on how different it was for Daniel.
Yeah, the seat situation is going to be tricky because I can't really see a top team taking him without proving himself first. The fastest way to a top seat might actually be accepting a year at AlphaTauri to prove himself, and then potentially replace Perez after next season.
RBR likes to keep AT as a development seat for their younger drivers. Unless the pipeline completely dries up AND one of Tsunoda/DeVries completely sh*ts the bed, it’s probably unlikely that they’d put DR in the seat.
The AT is also a different (and not in a good way) car from the RBR. It would probably just put him back in the McLaren headspace.
@@hail_sagan2830 They didn't care about their young drivers when hiring De Vries. They mustn't rate Liam Lawson too high, or possibly think Hauger or Iwasa might be better?
Hard though it may be to take this step, I think Ricciardo should dip a toe in the water (if his contract allows) of another form of motorsport. Not only would it keep him more “match fit”, but it would be so different to the very specific way of driving an F1 car that it could potentially shake him out of the habits adopted at McLaren, and be more like his natural self when stepping back into an F1 simulator or car again.
Maybe something like a co-driver role in the Enduros part of the V8 Supercars season. Red Bull even sponsor the most successful team in the championship, so it might work out well for all parties. You never know - it might even result in a good result at the Bathurst 1000?
It went better than we expected guys
i really hope he considers driving in another series, especially since his chances of getting a seat aren't looking too good. he's a good driver and he should be racing.
His story to me also screams that this is why you don't burn bridges. Like I can't say Oscar Piastri did anything WRONG with the drama last year, but he effectively gave the middle finger to Alpine / Renault, so there's automatically one team he'll likely never be able to drive for. Even though it went poorly, Ricciardo left McLaren without a huge fuss, not even complaining too much about how the car screwed him over, and kept saying positive things. I could realistically see McLaren - or the people who were there - having him back at some point if their car dynamics changed and they thought he could do well.
Nope. Alpine fucked Piastri over, not the other way around. There was no contract. They kept him dangling and delaying, using him as leverage in their negotiations with Alonso, so he went and found another drive. He even TOLD them he had. Alpine KNEW he had a contract with McLaren when they announced him. They were trying to bully him into breaking contract.
@@walover165 I never said they didn't fuck him over. I said Piastri burned the bridge. Read what I said again, I cannot say anything he did was wrong, because again he WAS mistreated. But it's true there is effectively one team and a few executives that will likely never work with him again - because they paid for his entire junior career and then got screwed, hence, he burned a bridge and cut his potential business partners from 10 down to 9, permanently.
Is what Alpine did right? No. Was there a better way to handle it from Piastri's side? Maybe. But it was an easy, recent example to point to of an F1 driver burning a bridge.
"...negotiated an early exit from his contract after struggling along side Lando..." that's a kind take 😏
NICE PIECE !!!!!!
I think when pressure went off since left redbull to be nr1 in other team whitout serious competitor in Renault. He didn't need to push and progress as hulkenberg and Ocon were no where near him, now effect of not constant training show up
I believe his last stint with red bull, just before joining Renault, had a tremendous impact on his confidence. I believe it started there and not in McLaren.
I truly believe it's all about confidence, not about the cars itself.
Ricciardo established himself as number 1 driver in red bull after beating multi world champion vettel, a big deal. But after max, it was clear that his momentum kinda shifted to the other side of the garage, and with max being so young, it was just a matter of time until he became faster than him. That realization just killed Ricciardo, mentally he just couldn't deal with it. His Renault stint and the McLaren one, was just Ricciardo cruisin along, already knowing that his chance of becoming a world champion just sailed away. He never picked up himself after that. We see Alonso for example, never losing that blind faith he has on himself, regardless of where he is, he always carries himself with brutal confidence. Ricciardo is just not the guy, and honesty, few are.
As entertaining and as likeable as Daniel is unless he settles for a lower midfield or backfield team the chances of him ever getting another seat are near 0
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This commend didn't age well
@@TheMigenator ages perfectly read the comment he got a slot on the worst team on the grid
I'm looking at this video after Mexico, and damn he's closer and closer to the RB seat
He was a beast in Red Bull, one of the best late breakers, shame McLaren ruined him
Despite all the negativity surrounding Ricciardo's time at McLaren, he still managed to get them their first and only race win since 2012 and Lando wasn't able to match him on that same weekend.
One weekend out of ??? He now has a reputation of jumping ship and not sticking with a struggling car or team.
@@milesgreen9705 BUT 25 POINTS !!!
ahahaTHATS FUNNY
@@The666opal111 26 points! (fastest lap!)
@@milesgreen9705 Well, McLaren pushed him out, so that's hardly his fault. And Renault looked like they were going to jump ship, so what else was he supposed to do? Go without a drive?
Yeah there is no way Seidl picks Ricciardo for an Audi Sauber seat considering he wasn't keen to bring him to McLaren at the first place unlike Zak. And as you said Seidl was a key to his McLaren exit so it's not looking good for our boy unless Checo performs really bad which he hasn't been doing so far this season.
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I don't think poor performance is the only way Checo can hang himself. If the title gets close later on and he and Max collide (on more than one occasion) that would likely be the nail in the coffin for him.
Seidl has always been a big fan of Daniel (he wanted him to drive for Porsche in Le Mans before RB blocked it) and they have a great relationship, what are you talking about??
He said time and time again that he doesn't want to drive anything other than a formula car competetively so I don't think it was cause of redbull that he didn't competed in that. Is that your reasoning to him being a huge fan of Daniel? If so then my reasoning to him being not fan of Daniel is that he didn't want Daniel after Sainz left and Zak wanted him, that's what I'm talking about.
@@imnicelikethat None of what you’re saying is true whatsoever. When Seidl ran Porsche in Le Mans he wanted to sign Daniel, google it. And him not wanting him after Carlos is ridiculous considering the condition to him being released was solely based on whether or not they could get Daniel. Seidl pushed to have Daniel in the team and one of the factors that got Daniel to join was Seidl running the team. Seidl and Zak were talking to Daniel throughout his time with Renault.
It almost sounds like a redemption arc story for a Netflix series
This is the best news I’ve heard in a long time in F1
Say what you will I think Daniel is going to be back in that RedBull.
no. bad. wrong
@@TheDiasporaMedia Time will tell Tea Pot.
@@DongerLorde I love the random hate even the nicest guy on the grid gets. Im scared seeing what hamilton and verstappen get
@@temp0theman830 Yeah the people who have no idea why he had struggles at Mclaren have condemned him to being a bad driver. He's not a bad driver, he has shown that he can be one of the very best on the grid in the right car.
@donger lol. let me ask you a serious question: How does it taste? 👅 💦
Ricciardo did not negotiate an early exit from McLaren. It was the other way around.
say it with me international F1 fans: 🗣️BRITISH 🇬🇧 MEEEEEEEDIA!
lol hehehe.
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I mean he did walk away with 20 million extra dollars so, in a way...
He definitely needed a season for his confidence, at least it appears his confidence is linked to those habits...if that's the case, he might make a points run before he finally retires. Haas would be a good fit, mid pack but he would be in a position to really pull that team up and could lead to another top car ride.
I hope we get to see the Dani Ric we all know again. He was the king of late breaking and super duper dive bombs in the corners.
sorry mate, it's game over
Audi is almost certainly Riccardo's only chance at driving in anger in F1 again.
no bad. no
A new team needing lots of feedback recruiting a driver known for lacking feedback? Lol good luck with that.
@@antoniusbaswara8477 Really?! How come within a season he had Renault having a car that was eventually getting him regular top five positions and then podiums?! Surely some of that must've been down to feedback that Ricciardo provided for Renault engineers, no?
@@mikespearwood3914 he got podiums with Renault because the Ferrari was ass and McLaren were using Renault’s engines which weren’t being built around their chassis.
@@TheDiasporaMedia Your english? yes it is very bad
Daniel is a talented driver recovering at the moment from a terrible match with McLaren. He's getting back his mojo and I'm sure he can deliver many more wins with a competitive F1 car. We want him back racing and can't wait for more shoeys!
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@@blist8329 I just stated my opinion mate. But I respect yours. IMO he definitely needed a break to clear things and get his self together. I only hope he gets a drive next year and we will be able to see. I know it's difficult though to get a drive after a break.
No he's done
@@MDE_never_dies why? He's already on Checo's pace in the sims.
@@buckshot904 And? They're not going to replace Checo with daniel just because he's as fast on the sims
If I would be Danny I would also enjoy this off season. As Hulkenberg showed it's possible to go back and race even after few seasons away from the sport. In my opinion something that is not so obvious now but might flop in the future is Alpine pairing. This was terrible idea to have two Frenchmen in the team. Both will fight tooth and nail to be the number one. Ocon is terrible team mate and there is chance that after one season the two will split. Gasly and Ricciardo have very good chemistry and both can work as a team.
got to love that guy!
"One person with knowledge of Riccardo's situation said it was a f***ing disaster." That has got Max Verstappen written all over it XD
Max the duff
Unless he is going quicker than Max in the sim, I dare say Max wouldn’t give a shit about Ricciardo’s situation…
Why on Earth would a top team want to take a punt on him if he imploded so much after two seasons of crap cars and "forgot" how to drive? Piastri seems to have adapted well to a foreign car and is doing OK. Which McLaren have pointed out.
Fair point. I guess maybe because he's a proven race winner? Still managed to get McLaren's only F1 win in a decade despite the debacle of a time he had driving there.
Piastri has the same advantage Norris did: he doesn't know anything else. And I doubt it will remain sunshine and roses at McLaren once he finds his feet and starts beating Norris regularly. Norris is going to freak.