One Wire Alternator Turn On Problems
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- Опубліковано 6 кві 2018
- In this video I will demonstrate the difference between the one wire alternator currently on the tractor and our custom built one wire alternator. You will get to see both in action on the same tractor.
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A great, simplistic video that gave me the first clue that the Delco alternator was the culprit regarding the battery dying on my 1948 Ford 8N that'd been converted to 12V. (I took the alternator off & had a local starter/alternator shop rebuild it, and the voltmeter on the dash immediately showed it to be charging on the next startup.) I really appreciate the fact that this was demonstrated on an old Ford!
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Great video, learned something new.
I had an issue with the front distributor as it would break a lead from torsion bar movement so I took off the front axle and welded a 1/4 “ steel stop plate on the axle both sides to limit the movement of the torsion bars. Works Great.
Great video. Just purchased one.
6v, positive ground,8n ford tractor just about drove my electrician dad nuts the first time he worked on it 😆
Good to know about that.
I had the same problem with a one wire alternator on a John Deere 350 dozer, I replaced it with a 10SI 3 wire alternator, problem solved.
Excellent video
Thank you Larry that was very informative
You are welcome. Happy to get you you and running.
Good video. All my tractors use GM 1-wire alternators as they are the easiest to change over to and most economical.
Funny enough,,, that's what he took off,,, I almost think its a scam because all the owner had to do was hook up the excite wire to the aux on his key,,, or just leave it hooked to the batt and it would kick right in,,, they don't need to upgrade to his alt for more $$$... lol,,, Maybe I'm missing something...
As you noticed in the video, we pointed that out The alternators look similar but are different internally. The alternator that we took off took an increasingly amount of RPM to turn it on and ours does not, and ours has very little parasitic drain. If you were to hook up and excite wire permanently to the battery the alternator will draw the battery dead that’s why we do not install them that way on tractors and again you’re talking about A circuit alternator and we switch the alternators to a B circuit field that’s why they work like they do. We would never try to scam any of our customers. Give me a call yourself if you don’t understand how our alternator works.
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Thanks you avoided me a issue
What question did we not answer?
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That is a great video! I have a Ford 2N tractor that I cant seem to hook up a 1 wire alternator thru an ammeter, I run the alt.(63 amp self exciting with a internal voltage regulator) 10 gauge wire to 1 side of the ammeter and then run a wire from the other side of the ammeter to the battery, and that does not work, sparks fly when I try to hook up the ground wire to the battery!!! the tractor has been changed over to a 12 volt negative ground and electronic ignition with an external coil that was purchased at yesterdays tractor. The coil is mounted to the side of the alt. because that is the only place I can find to put it, could that make a difference? The ignition is a switch now just like a car would have because you would just about have to stand on the button to push it down, the new switch has a bat. Ign. acc. and switch terminals on it and I am using a starter solenoid and there is a ballast resistor. The Tractor starts fine and runs smooth but I cant go any where until I know that the Battery is being charged. can you help me out with this? PLEASE
Just ordered an alternator - exactly what I've been looking for to fix my problem. Thanks Good vid. (don't tell anyone I'll be using GM parts on my ford tractor) 😉
Thank you. If you have any problems, please don’t hesitate to contact us.
Can you make those "mini" Denso alternators be made to excite at low RPM or immediately upon startup ?
v nice
Changed my 600 Ford tractor from generator to One wire alternator and the ballast resistor burns up bought the coil with eight ohm resistor and coil heats up and shut off tractor any suggestions on what I’ve got going on?
Hi, I have a question regarding the alternator on my car. Is it normal to be idling at 750 RPM, not have any loads on, have 13.5V at the alternator, then turn on my headlights, and the voltage drops to 11.9V at alternator and stays there until I turn the headlights off or I increase the RPM? Is this a fair test for the alternator or should I be testing it at 2000 to 2500 RPM?
Thanks for making the video! I have a quick question for you, i have a PowerMaster Alternator 58302. It's a 220 amp 14.8 volt power alternator 2 pin style - L/F. I had it originally hooked up as a one wire alternator because that's what it said in the add when i bought it but have since found out it's a OE style unit. I've only gotten 13.4-13.8volts. How do i make this thing work?? It's a super expensive alternator and brand new. Do i need to change the regulator out? It's going from 13.8, 11, 9, 0, than back to 13.8 on the voltmeter then on repeat every few seconds, I have no ECU. Any info would be super helpful!
nathan ziino: So first of all, you only have part of the system. That alternator is from an RVC system. Which means it’s a regulation voltage control which is on the vehicle. Which is a regulation voltage control unit and a thermistor connected to the negative cable of the battery. Those two items control the voltage setting of the Alternator. The alternator you have is running in what we call limp mode, there’s no way to drive up the voltage it will just operate in limp mode which is the low voltage setting that you’re reading. It might be possible to change the voltage regulator depending on the configuration of the alternator. There are a couple different styles of the alternators that it could be, but until we know which one that is, we won’t be able to determine if you can install another regulator with a higher voltage setting. Hope that helps answer your question. And thank you for taking the time to ask the question.
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what type on low rpm alternatoor
I have a 42 2N that has been changed to 12 volt. But on my tractor, when I start it, I have to jump a wire at the alternator to get it to charge. It does not matter the engine RPM. If that little wire is not jumped at the plug, it will not charge. Been through 3 of them so far (others burned up due to dirt and grass getting in it either shorting them out or messing up the bearings). What did you do special to your alternator to get it to charge right at start up?
I WOULD MAKE IT A B CIRCUIT REGULATOR. I WOULD BE HAPPY TO REBUILD YOUR ALTERNATOR IF YOU WANT TO SEND IT TO US.
Great video, do you sell one of these alternator for 1952 8N, Thks
Yes, same alternator, heielectric.com/shop/alternators/one-wire-tractor-alternator/, . Just choose your pulley. You would need to make your mount or we could supply that too. Give us a call if you need the mount.
Will an alternator work on a Cushman Truckster, since I want to add more lights and leave the generator on as the starter only?
If you mean that you currently have a starter generator on your Cushman Truckster, then yes, you can add an alternator
nice to know. i like the alternator bracket is that for sale yet for a 48 8n?you should sell the whole conversion kit
Thank you for your comment and inquiry. The bracket is available for the 8N, however the 8N does not require the alternator to spring in towards the engine. It can be mounted solid. If you have further questions, please don't hesitate to ask.
That's very nice which way does your alternator need to turn left or right to produce electricity that's my question thank you
Thank you for your inquiry. Alternators can turn either direction. If you have any more questions, don’t hesitate to ask.
Ok after replacing the battery on my 48 8N the fellow that I purchased it from last fall told me he sold it to me with a brand new battery, so i pulled the Alternater and after not having any luck finding an exact match i went to AutoZone and purchased a one wire that would match and hooked the hot from the alt to one side of-the amp meter , just like before , still no charge the Belt looks alittle large for the pully but seems to work just fine
Now am i supposed to run a little wire (jumper) from the hot post of the alt to the open leads on the alt and not do anything with the ground post on the alternater?
Toget it to excite?
You have a couple issues working against you here. First, is the alternator you bought most likely came with a 3/8” pulley and by your explanation, you definitely need a 1/2” to 5/8” groove pulley for best results. Second, issue is, all one wire alternators are not created equal. The alternator you purchased still needs to be revved up to begin charging.
Our Low Turn On One Wire does not need to be revved up to start charging. Hope this helps.
SO... where does one get your custom built alternator? thanks
WE WILL HAVE THIS ALTERNATOR ON OUR WEBSITE BY MARCH 2020. SORRY FOR THE DELAY :(
so with the cheapo alternator just run the engine up till its charging then drop it back to idle? sweet. Just watch the gauge then with the one wire alternator. Seems once excited it holds on to charging to not waste more fuel. The question I have is will the cheaper alternator drop out after you walk away to work on something?
SORRY, I DIDN'T QUITE UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION :(
May I ask what the difference in internals of the alternator to make it charge at a lower rpm?
It’s been turned into a “B” circuit
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Is there enough room to move the alternator in towards the engine ? That's the one thing I can't stand is, not only seeing an alternator on an older tractor, but also how it hangs so far out.
Unfortunately there isn’t enough room
Can’t you connect a wire from the ACC on the ignition switch to (port #1 exciter) and make the alternator start charging?
You are correct, you can hook the ACC terminal to the alternator to excite it faster. However, these tractors do not come with an ignition switch like that, they are simply an on /off key switch. You would have to change the ignition switch to make that work.
I have a problem with my one wire alternator . When I start my engine, the volt gage is at 11, the belt squeals until I rev the engine and the volt gage is at 13 volts? What is causing the alternator to lock up at low voltage?
Please give Luke a call at the shop 800-944-0494 , he would like to speak with you about this because you may have a few problems going on.
Wow, Can i used that on Toyota 4runner 2006?
Probably not that particular alternator. However, if you could provide us your alternator number, or more information about your 4 runner, we may be able to help you. We would need your engine size, etc.
Put a smaller pulley on the alternator to speed it up at low RPM.
IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT PULLEY YOU USE, IT WOULDN'T MAKE A DIFFERENCE WITH OUR ALTERNATOR.
I thought this video was on how to wire a one wire alternator, such as with a diagram showing proper installation.
No, the title of this video was (One Wire Alternator - Turn On Problems)
My car is the same way, tap the accelerator and once it is charging then you can run the air conditioner. My pickup needs revved even more and the battery will go dead if I dont disconnect it.
This tractor alternator also accommodates older vehicles. Gives us a call or order online.
Just install a smaller pulley on the alternator.
WE CHANGED THE PULLEY TO THE SMALLEST ONE AVAILABLE FOR THAT ALTERNATOR, CHECK THE VIDEO AT TIME STAMP 3:00 TO 3:12 WHERE IT SHOWS ME CHANGING / REUSING THE CURRENT PULLEY. THERE ISN'T A SMALLER ONE FOR THAT.
It would be great for a wind turbine put three or four of those low rev alternator s on them to charge batteries.!!!
SORRY, IT WOULDN'T WORK BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF VARIABLES TO CONTEND WITH
2:42 OK '' there,....it's charging...."" Alternators, with integral voltage regulators, have a '' threshold '' voltage point. Once this level is reached, then it would/should stay charging, for a period of time, until that 'threshold '' is no longer sustained/ either by the load, on output circuit, or a drop in rpm= OR BOTH.
The difference between the alternator we removed and our new wire one alternator is that the old one is RPM sensitive and ours is not. Our alternator begins charging as soon as the tractor is started on this tractor. No need to rev it up to start charging. If you are not attentive to watching the voltmeter with the old style, your battery will go dead.
Just hook up the excite wire to the aux on the key,,, that kicks it right in also... They all need excited one way or another,,, more so if they sit for months at a time... I don't think paying out more $$$ for your Alt adds up,,, not any better than the one you took off... This amounts to a scam if your selling them to people for that reason... idk man...
The alternator that you’re talking about is an A circuit field, our alternator is a B circuit field which does what it shows in the video. If you hook up and excite wire to the key, there is only an on and off, and the tractor will keep running because the ignition terminal on the alternator puts out current and you won’t be able to shut the tractor off. It’s not a scam it’s a low turn on, low self drain alternator which has not been available to use on the tractors or low RPM older cars, until we did introduced it.
@@HagemeisterEnterprisesINC It is true like you say, "If you hook up and excite wire to the key, there is only an on and off, and the tractor will keep running because the ignition terminal on the alternator puts out current and you won’t be able to shut the tractor off." However, if you install a diode in the circuit between the ignition switch and ignition terminal on the alternator, that will solve the problem of the tractor keeping on running after the ignition switch is turned off. A rectifier diode is the kind you want to use.
Yes, that would work, however most people just want the take off the unit and put a unit back on and don’t understand diodes or how to even correctly install it. OUr video keeps things super simple.
Use a Denso from a junkyard Toyota, problem solved for $25.
We are talking about a one wire alternator here. You would need to use a keywire if you installed a junkyard alternator.
That's not true. I have a Denso alternator on my Camry now and I'm having charging issues or I think I'm having charging issues. While idling at 750 RPM, I have 13.5V at altenator with no loads on, once I turn on the headlights, the voltage drops to 11.9V and stays there until I either turn off the headlights or increase the RPM, then it goes back up to 13.5V.
I can increase the RPM to 2500, then take my foot of the gas, RPM drops down to 750, and 13.5V reading at alternator, but if I turn the headlights on again the voltage drops to 11.9 again and stays there until I turn off the light or increase the RPM. What do you think?
massive time waster, i am idiot to have watched for something to learn
Just curious what you were hoping to learn from this video? Do you have questions, or a problem we can help you with?
I guess you are just not capable of understanding.
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