The Deconstruction Of Captain Britain By Alan Moore & Alan Davis
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- Опубліковано 15 сер 2020
- A look at the slightly obscure, but highly regarded Captain Britain story - sometimes referred to as Crooked World, and sometimes as Jasper’s Warp - that was serialized by Marvel UK between 1982 and 1984. Written by Alan Moore and illustrated by Alan Davis.
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SOURCES:
“The Saga Of Captain Britain,” by Nigel Lowrey. Back Issue 29. August 2008.
Modern Masters - Volume 01: Alan Davis, edited by Eric Nolen-Weathington. TwoMorrows Publishing. 2006.
The Extraordinary Works Of Alan Moore, written and edited by George Khoury. TwoMorrows Publishing. 2003.
Kimota! The Miracleman Companion, by George Khoury. TwoMorrows Publishing. 2001.
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"The Captain Britain story are getting too heavy....we need a new writer....huh how bout that guy Alan Moore?"
He’s a really light hearted, straightforward writer who NEVER puts in a bunch of politics into his work!
Probably be good
Were they smoking something?
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@Francisco Ryker Instablaster =)
Strange to think of Alan Moore and David Lloyd as ever being cheap new talent. Lol.
I hope one day Moore allows this and his other harder-to-find titles be reprinted. There are so many stories I'd like to read. Comics go oop all too soon, many older and "alternative" titles aren't even available as pirated digital copies. It can be a damnably expensive, frustrating hobby.
keep looking on ebay. i found the tpb for about 15.00. it was a little beat up but still very readable.
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Here in Brazil we lucked out and got a long distribution of the 2002 version that is as affordable as it is complete. It is how I got to read this story.
One of my personal 'mainstream' (if you can call that) super hero tales.
@Eamonn Wright Oh I am a huge Judge Dredd fan! "America" is my current favorite story from the character, wish to read more.
I've been a life long fan of Alan Davis and have always loved the character of Captain Britain primarily because of the work he and Alan Moore did on the title. I have every collected copy of the run released. What I loved most about the character was that it was a very British take on a British character for once. It wasn't another American view of how a British character would act. The Tea and Sympathy issue to me was a standout example in many ways.
You should hunt down the Nightcrawler one-shot Davis did that came out just a few months ago...his artwork was great.
I don't mean to preach to the choir...but just to mention-
Alan Davis work on Batman and the Outsiders is often overlooked or forgotten. It is really great material if you can find it🍟
@@youraveragecrownofthorns8919 I just finished reading his first JLA: The Nail Elsewhere mini-series and that blew me away.
@@conroyjett good deal! I had actually forgot that was an Elsewhere title...or is it Elseworld?
@@youraveragecrownofthorns8919 I am so glad I read your comment, I missed this at the time! Davis' Nightcrawler is probably my favourite, I'm a big fan of his Excalibur runs and Clandestine.
The Jaspers Reality Warp was the greatest story I had ever read.
Read it all back in the early 80s as a 13/14 year old.
Utter, utter magic.
Thank you for making this video.
Should be mage into a dark marvel film.
I remember stealing my Dad’s trade of this when I was in middle school. The Alans made such a good story that it went and turned me into a comics nerd. CURSE YOU ALAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!!!!
I had the original Marvel UK run but sadly the paper stock was extremely poor and my copies were stored in boxes in my garage and consequently rotted. I absolutely loved Captain Britain. The characters were brilliant and different and the Fury really felt like an unstoppable foe. He wasn't scared to kill off characters, even popular ones and Betsy been blinded by Slaymaster was truly shocking.
My god, I remember being excited when I got my hands on the first issue of Captain Britain way back in 1976. Back when comics only cost 10p, roughly 15-20 Cents for you Americans. A time when kids could easily afford their comics.
Did you get a free mask or boomerang with the comic?
@@brianbraddock32 I think it was a boomerang. You got a free mask with the first Spider-Man UK comic, as I recall, it was a paper bag with the pattern and eyeholes cut into it.
the very first UK marvel had an incredible hulk, iron-on transfer I seem to remember.
@@kez0o9 Yes, the Hulk seen from the back.
That is so awesome
Great Presentation. I was surprised that there was no mention of the Captain Britain Omnibus that reprinted all the Alan Davis and Alan Moore material. I was going to sell mine until I watched your video. It’s doubtful in light of what you shared that it will ever be reprinted again. Now I have to hold on to this book. One of my favorite Marvel stories ever. Thank you for the heads up.
Well, that stinks it won't ever be reprinted. I have an older trade that contains all of Alan Davis' run after Moore left. I was hoping someday I could get a Omnibus containing the two Alan's runs. I guess I'll have to keep my eyes peeled for the older Omnibus edition.
Just found out Marvel is reprinting the Moore/Davis run again: www.instocktrades.com/comingsoon/may210694/captain-britain-omnibus-hc-davis-cvr
2000AD had some solid stories but D R & Quinch stuck out among the top. Glad you're covering Captain Britain. Deserves more love then it gets.
D r and quinch were brilliant, I read the originals in 2AD . There so many comics being published and then cancelled it was hard to keep track, definitely the UK golden age, got all the original Captain Britain, but missed out on this apart from a few odd issues, would be nice to see a complete collection.
Great video. Never knew Moore had such a great run with such an obscure character. Really is a testament to how good he was.
Damn..that was a flashback!..2000AD , Marvel UK, Capt Britain ...my kidhood comics....great vid, i can feel a browse on ebay coming on..
Great video. I love your coverage of significant but under-publicized developments.
This was a great period for British comics, and it happened just as I entered my teens and started to mature. I feel extraordinarily lucky to have read all of it at that time. It blew my tiny little mind
Only ever knew Captain Britain existed cause of Xmen
Same, it was Excalibur that I first heard of him and Meggan.
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Which is a shame because he was depicted extremely poorly in Excalibur I think, so the few people who have heard of him disliked him.
In 2012 Hachette published the Moore run in 'Captain Britain: A Crooked Earth' as a hardback volume in their series 'Marvel Ultimate Graphic Novels Collection'. Probably the easiest- and most inexpensive- way to get hold of the run. I think I paid 10 euros for it a few years back (though I still have all but maybe one of the the UK issues that originally featured Moore's run).
I wish Marvel would reprint this book.
I picked up a copy in japan many years ago, so there is a reprint. Its possible Kinokuniya may have it available, assuming you are talking about the first Alan Moore story, which is brilliant. I found a hardcopy version on amazon.co.uk for £52.11, which is a lot mroe than i paid when i purchased it about 18 years ago.
I wish the would reprint the omnibus. It currently goes for £500+ on the second hand market!
You can get the marvel graphics novel collection volume 3. Crooked world from the UK for around £3-10. Companies like Zavi sell them as comic book mystery bundles.
Captain Britain has some of the best single panels In comics from the 80s-90s. Not sure about current day marvel or DC, sadly i stopped reading them
Yeah
Theres is an spanish print by Panini . Look Up " Marvel héroes Panini : capitán Britania"
This was fantastic! Years of reading, listening to the nerd cult, hunting for obscure comics...
I never knew Earth 616 was anything other than a Marvel imagining.
Almost a generic, side note retelling...every word was a balance.
Once again you touch upon that corner of awesome overlooked works! While I do like the darker Moore stuff like Watchmen, I love the lighter works like Supreme, Captain Britain, and Tom Strong. Fingers crossed for that third one to get a video ;)
I have the 2002 collection on my shelf with many other Moore books!
Thank you tor this video. I was a huge fan of the eighties Excalibur title but it was the very devil trying to find out more about Captain Britain's past and what I could find just made it even more confusing. This clears a lot of stuff up. I hope someday I'll be able to read the earlier issues.
Awesome video as usual sir. Marvel UK is something I'm not familiar with, so it was very informative.
Excellent journalism.
16:03 Here in the UK (and I think in Europe) it has been reprinted by Panini as Captain Britain Vol 5 End Game and is still in print.
It also seems to be available on Amazon.com for a fairly reasonable price.
This is why I love UA-cam - for great and unique content like this. Thank you.
Yesss! Thank you! Alan Davis and CB are criminally slept on. I was only able to find the reprinted compilation in Barcelona.
I read the collected Captain Britain after the other stories appeared in North America, so I never understood how contemporary the three stories were. Good context.
And he certainly gave Alan Davis something to develop into. As much as I enjoyed his work on "Batman and the Outsiders" (with the cool Kevin Nolan annual) it isn't remembered so well. And a jolly good X-Men series to collect the big X-$ that he would not have "cut his teeth" nearly so well if beginning on those stories. But his The Nail" story at DC should be available also!
Amazing video! You sir are a gift.
Another great analysis of storytelling. It's made me want to read the series. I like how you made analogies and links with Alan Moore's runs on Swamp Thing, Miracle Man, Supreme and his own series V for Vendetta.
I bought the monthly black & white artwork comic in the early eighties. I was absolutely obsessed with it. I have the 2002 book & I will never sell it. The Fury is just the best antagonist ever written, pure single minded, relentless killing machine.
Alan Davies artistic development on this title is a joy to observe & his work in the later episodes is just artistically awe inspiring. The fight between the Fury, the CB's & the Special Executive is perfect the description of the Fury's calm analysis of the fight, while it's fighting, even as it's being destroyed is chilling. Davies work on this series & John Byrnes work on the X-men (Days of future past, Dark Phoenix, Proteus etc) were some of the best artwork of the time. Moore is a genius writer who perfectly captures British eccentricity & his & Davies run on CB will never be matched. A rare masterpiece and one I feel lucky & honoured to own.
'The Fury is just the best antagonist ever written, pure single minded, relentless killing machine.' Yup.
616 is the number that you get when you add up the numbers associated with the letters of Nero's latin name (using isopsepgy or gematria) and appears in a few latin manuscripts. The original greek text and most latin manuscripts have 666 which is the number of Neron (Nero's Greek name)
I‘d like to add, that the villains were truly terrifying. Especially after the Fury had killed Captain Britain once already you had to wonder how he could win. And with Jaspers being able to warp reality?
The final battle was well set up and executed without any deus ex machina, as all elements were introduced ahead of it.
And it was still awesome to behold.
With 2000 ad, Warrior, Star Lord, the early and mid 80s was a true golden age of British comic books.
I've read virtually all of Alan Moore's work and every book written about him, and God knows how many interviews ans articles.....but I never knew that Earth 616 thing. Great work!
Fantastic video! This was a side of Alan Moore that I had always heard about but never knew the exact details of. Captain Britain was always one of those characters with an elaborate but seemingly impenetrable backstory that made it a little difficult to understand especially when the character would be used in modern appearances. This is a great overview!
Your postings are always a welcome sight, particularly when there about creators I'm familiar with working on characters and storylines that were previously only spoken about it passing. Thank you for another wonderful posting.
AMAZING VIDEO!!!! So informative. Love your videos, keep up the excellent work!
You really should consider doing an examination of Moore's Time Twisters and Future Shocks short pieces from his earlier days
2000ad ruled!
I’ve always really enjoyed this storyline, and this is the best discussion of it I’ve seen (certainly in light of Alan Moore’s other work). Great job!
A wonderful summary. Thank you for the work you put into this.
As always, incredible video my man.
I LOVED Excalibur and I wondered in what comic a lot of Captain Britain’s earlier adventures took place. I just found out thanks to this great video! Subscribed!
Fantastic video about one of my all time favourite comics stories. I had all the original comics but lost half of them when I loaned them to a friend who's Mother through them out by mistake (I was not happy). I finally got the omnibus reprint years later and so could enjoy it again. I think this run is one of the greatest things ever created and I wish more people could read it. I consider this Moore's second greatest work behind Marvelman which is my favourite.
So MarvelMan as MiracleMan could be the same guy killed in Captain Britian. Meaning that each one exists on separate Earths with nothing separating them but their names, maybe up until the point MiracleMan was killed in Captain Britain's comic. It's like Alan Moore accidentally planned ahead.
Technically, this Miracleman exists on Earth-238 whereas the Marvelman (Warrior/Eclipse) exists on Earth-18 as according to the Marvel Multiverse in Marvel Comics #1000.
EDIT: I mistaken the put the wrong numbering and designations, but it’s been fixed.
Excellent. Thank you, sir.
Excellent video. I hope to track those reprint issues down. Thank you for talking more about British comics.
I'm loving your content. Like I'm super happy that I found your account in the random blue. Keep up the hardwork
Wow what thoughtful work done in this channel. Subscribed!
Thank you! I hope to continually renew that opinion with future videos.
Here we go!
Another excellent doc. Excellent.
Great video
Great video!
@7:30 ReligionForBreakfast has a video covering the 616/666/Nero theory, which also addresses historical context. Nero's name in Greek converts to 666, while the Latin spelling converts to 616. (He also says that while we have a few manuscripts that use 616, the earliest known manuscript used 666.)
Hey I'm glad I have a copy of this 2002 reprint. Bought it on Alan Moore's name alone. It's such a great comic book, I read it every once in a while. Great villains, great ending, great art all around. Nice vid as usual man, thx!
I remember vividly reading the original run as a kid.
Was so dark in comparison to most of the stuff I'd read in Marvel comics back then.
Think I may still have my Captain Britain badge somewhere from one of the issues..
Always good to see Supreme!
What a legendary combo
Great work, as always! Were those Dr. Who stories reprinted in the later Marvel run? I've never been able to determine.
I fortunately own both the Panini edition and the collected volume you show in the vid, had them for years- but i would hate to try and find a copy now🙄
You are the one of the most knowledgable comic UA-camrs our there! Love your channel in general and this episode in particular.
The last time I dug into the matter, I discovered it was Dave Thorpe who coined "616" and that the "mark of the beast" was most likely apocryphal rumors that fed into Alan Moore's wizardly reputation. Maybe I'm misinformed, but I thought you'd prefer to know than not. Cheers!
According to interviews, in Moore's mind, Merlin was the final incarnation of The Doctor from Doctor Who.
A very good overview of Alan Moore's time on Captain Britain. Marvel UK has reprinted it in book form... I have a small claim to 'fame' in that I provided my copy of one of the original comics that featured a page missed out of the American reprints. They scanned the page from my version and restored it to the story. As far as I know that page (missed out to make the strips fit in an issue of X-Men Archives) has never been reprinted in the States.
This is gonna be a good one.
I wish Doctor Who Monthly (originally known as Doctor Who Weekly) was still being published by Marvel; it would be interesting to see the Doctor interacting with other Marvel characters like the X-Men.
Marvel could certainly write the TV show better than the current BBC writers!
Yes. The Doctor. Well known Marvel character. Made by Marvel. Created in 1963 by Jack Kirby and Stan Lee.
The Doctor is my favorite Marvel character.
Shame they’re not in the MCU.
Hey, what about Excalibur? I loved that series. With Kitty Pride, Phoenix and that blond hottie... and the little robot dragon something... I thought it was amazing. Especially the episode with that insane guy who could mess people up by pulling their "strings" that only he could see....
That part of Excalibur was written & drawn by Alan Davis, which included some parts of the Captain Britian series. Great work. Would like to see Mr Davis write & draw Aquaman someday.
Megan was that blond hottie the little dragon was Lockheed, the little robot widget allowed them to be in “The cross time caper.” Excalibur was a huge favorite off mine, loved their “Inferno” storyline as well. Chris Clairemont deserves a ton of credit on this story and it went way downhill when he left.
I like the solo Davis Excalibur. When Claremont was writing the series had some high points, but it was a little too "silly" for my tastes, and some of the plots just dragged on and on. The solo Davis run was much more focused.
Still one of my favourite comic book stories. I was lucky enough to be collecting them as it came out. The Fury is also my favourite comic book monster.
I started CB when the trade paperback of the davies/delano stories were reprinted in the late 80s. Great stuff.
I remember being surprised that Moore did an introduction to that original Captain Britain trade that came out in the early 00's. I have the omnibus they published 10(?) years ago that has all this and the Delano/Davis follow-up run. All very very good stuff.
I now have to find the Supreme titles by Moore. Thanks.
thank you
Like everything Alan Moore writes, when I came across reprints of the run I👏🏼was👏🏼besotted👏🏼and moments have stuck with me - 2 decades after reading the run. Alan is the greatest Comics writer e.v.e.r 💯❤️
This era of the Captain Britain donde by Moore and Davis is one of my favorite comics of all time. You have donde justice in this "desconstruction". Thanks.
Althought a few notes:
- The number 616 was not a Moore idea, apparently it's from Dave Thorpe, the previous writter of the series. The origin of the number it's the same thought according from this article: bleedingcool.com/comics/dave-thorpe-marvel-616-explains-where-it-came-from/
- The only complete reprint of this series was a Marvel Omnibus from 2009 that collects the Thorpe, Moore and Delano issues, but it's long out of print. In Spain the comic was reprinted in 2018 also with the Thorpe and Delano issues, maybe the only edition avilable in the world right now.
Donde?
@@broomhands8001 By Panini Comics, this it's the book. ;)
comics.panini.es/store/pub_esp_es/sclmh092-es-marvel-heroes-comic-marvel-heroes-comic-n-92.html
@@broomhands8001 aqui
I saw a few heads mention it here but yeah man Excalibur !!..with the Lockheed dragon ..one of the last series before I got into adult content..
@vic aldama I am one of those heads, and yes Wxcalibur was an excellent title.
Daredevils #1 (the resurrection of Captain Britain) blew my 10-year old brain. I immediately made a Captain Britain mask out of a cereal box. I still regard Moore's saga as the greatest superhero epic ever.
The episode of this where the time jumping character has his future self killed and then waits for death is priceless on its own. This and the warpies saga that introduces Megan are about as good as comics get. Oh, and might I suggest taking a look at the recent The Vision run that introduced viv vision? Nice work.
I always kind of liked the format of UK comics. As a kid I had a friend return from London with a few comic books, I was quite sheltered and oblivious to anything outside Canada back then so I was fascinated by what I saw since I had no idea their comics looked or were laid out any differently. I mean yeah I expected stories to cater to regional sensibilities and differences and the price to reflect UK currency but I guess otherwise I expected them to be identical.
What Alan Moore did was tie it to core British Fiction and added the Dr Who that Claremont started in his Early run with the Master being a villain Brian faced. There seems to be a shared multiverse with British science fiction stories overlapping
Loved this nostalgia rush. Moore’s Captain Britain run was one of my favourites, because, as you say, both he and Davies stuck around for the complete story. I have three pages of Davies original artwork in my collection. A sequence that includes the 8mage you showed of Mad Jim Jaspers holding Captain Britain between his finger nails. It’s a pity it’s not more easily reprinted, but now I know it’s because Davies and Moore retain the rights, I am happier to say "ha I also have the original run in black and white. " *smug grin*
I think you've earned that smug grin. Finding the originals on this side of the Atlantic is quite a challenge!
I don't care what they say, that first costume is bad-ass. I personally never liked the revamped costume. I have some of those original UK issues of the character that my cousin brought over on a summer vacation in the 70s.
Excellent job as always. I really appreciate your dedication to more obscure work.
Funny, it is the opposite for me. While I have absolutely no problem whatsoever with the original costume, which kinda has a classic "Dave Cochrum" vibe to it, I absolutely LOVE the redesign. It remains one of my all time favorite super hero costumes!
@@RogerioPereiradaSilva77 To each their own sir!
Great video. This explains a lot about the Captain Britain we find in Excalibur. I found the character very unlikeable. But now, I see why. He's gone through the wringer. It reminds me of what Starlin did to the Adam Warlock character.
I am amazed when I see early captain Britain in vivid colour I originally read the original British versions and they were black and white at least the ones we got in Canada would like. Most in-depth well done captain Britain video I’ve ever seen them!
I always felt it was kind of odd that the main Marvel universe has such a "satanic" name as Earth-616, but now that I know Alan Moore was the one who came up with the name, it makes a lot more sense
This seems to be the 1st instance of numerical designations being assigned to different Earths. I'm a fan of Captain Britain and I hope he can be utilized in a comic or animated series properly
Interesting, I didn't know much of Brian before the Excalibur run in the 80's. It explains the more dimensional hopping aspect of the comics to which I just thought were fun as a kid.
Captain Britain is a cool character and when alan davis is drawing it its amazing. Alan moore as a writer has a unique style.
Other heroes referenced in the graveyard are Roy Risk = Dan Dare, Iron Tallon = The Steel Claw and Gaath = Garth
glad you did the vid, but there were more brilliant CB stories post Moore, first Jamie Delano, no slouch, and then Alan Davies himself. No multiverses were threatened but the characters developed considerably. those comics set-up the UK contingent of the 'X' team Excalibur.
TIL Alan Moore worked on Captain Britain and may have been responsible for the 616 universe naming convention. Amazing video!
I got this book but never full finished it
I guess it’s time to change that
Deaths Head is my favorite MarvelUK creation. Wish they'd use him and Captain Britain more
The comparison with Moore's work on Supreme definitely rings true the more I think about it. Both maintain a certain air of optimism some of his other stories can lack, with a feeling that even though the heroes might suffer set backs they'll always be around to continue the good fight. Amusingly wasn't aware of the rarity of his Captain Britain run, having picked up the 2002 trade for cover price in the 2000s.
Alan Moore didn't try to mend the relationship with Alan Davis. He just blamed Eclipse for not getting Davis' permission. Davis brought up that Moore could have called Davis to find out if Moore was concerned. This is why we don't hear any complains from Alan Moore about Miracleman or Captain Britain, he was party to publishing Miracleman with checking with his collaborators. Plus Davis was the one who corrected Moore's statement about the editor who left Warrior.
What a great video. I am fan of Captain Britain via Excalibur. So much history.
It’s only a few quid on eBay. Printed as as a volume in a Partworks in the UK.
The issues of Captain Britain following Moore were written by Jamie Delano, and drawn by Davis... they are also quite good and were collected in a TPB published in the UK.
Alan Moore is comics only genius comics writer. Unmatched never to be surpassed ❤️
I've been able to round up all but one of the floppy reprints of this in the X-Men Archives series from mid 90s mentioned in the video. I did have to buy half of them off eBay
Great video, btw. New sub here!
"-Ooof, too political, we should find a new writer for the title.
-Yeah. I know! Let's hire Alan Moore!!"
Hilarious.
The Arachnid is the Spider, but Garth is Garth. I used to read Garth when I was a kid, in the newspaper my Dad bought.
Alan Moore did a brilliant job, his first epic was great and worth reading by anyone. Its very stand alone as well, so no prior knowledge is required.
I'd love to see how Captain Britain copes with the break up of the UK. definite room for a graphic novel there.