BETA PARTS 🛠⚙- Choose "3 Seas Recreation" for your Beta parts! Customers can now order all Beta parts and accessories directly from the Beta USA website. All parts inventories are in real-time. Customers can choose shipping options and the best part, selecting their preferred dealer. Why choose 3 Seas Recreation as your preferred dealer? -We have spent over $40,000 this year alone on our race team, all of which are on Beta Motorcycles. -We have produced over 300 "How To Beta Videos". All free to the public. -When you choose "3 Seas Recreation" a portion of that sale will come back to our shop, all profit goes back into our race program and our UA-cam videos. -Since 2011 we have been a pioneer with the Beta Brand in the USA and spend hundreds of hours giving advice over the phone for Free. -We are BETA ONLY when it comes to Off Road Dirt bikes, all of our attention is on Beta! -We take brand new bikes out of the show room and give full riding videos, none of this is backed by the Factory or Beta USA Beta Parts Link: betausa.com/accessories.html ------------------------------------------- NEXT LEVEL 🔔 Hit the bell next to Subscribe so you don't miss a video! 👍 Like Our Videos 💬 Comment Below 🏍 Enjoy The Ride, Jared -------------------------------------------
Hi Jared, somewhat related to the new clutch. Will you be putting out an updated video on the oil pump gears for the 2022+ model year bikes? I'm going to be changing my plastic oil pump gears soon and it seems the best reference I have is your old video however I'm unsure of how different the process is. Thanks
Appreciate all your helpful videos! Concerning the new clutch it should be said that the three positions are not there to make your clutch feel lighter or heavier. The three adjustments are to compensate for differences in stack height. Ideally the Belleville spring should be perfectly flat when the clutch is correctly installed. If it is slightly concave or convex, the different settings allow you to compensate for this and get the spring in a completely flat position. Greetings from Austria!
They are for clutch feel i just installed a new diaphragm clutch on my beta and the directions state specifically for lighter pull or heavier the three settings it's just changing the preload .. the lighter feel is awesome especially for the technical stuff !! 😅
Thanks. I just traded my ‘22 Xtrainer for a 300RR. I’m going to adjust it to the first position for a lighter clutch pull. We’ll see if I get any slippage after some use. The Xtrainer’s clutch was extremely light.
Hey guys. Thanks for putting this video together. Have you tried the other settings (1 or 3)? Do you know which one has a shorter more aggressive pull, and which one has a long easy pull?
Good Morning, if you rotate that collar to the 1 position it pushes that collar against the spring plate harder which gives the bike a harder clutch pull. If you go to the 3 position it pulls that collar away from the spring plate making it have a softer feel. Thanks for watching! Jared
Does it change your engagement point of the clutch? I have a 2023 300rx and I have the lever as far in toward the bar as it will go and still don’t like the engagement. It is right at the point when I start to pull the lever is where the engagement and disengagement is….. I generally like my clutch slipping point to be right as the lever is almost touching my other fingers…..
Hey J, the clutch on a new to me 2023 seems to be slipping at high speeds. I opened it up and everything looks good with the clutch pack. The adjuster ring was in the II position when I took it apart. Noticed the Beta service manual shows the screw in the II position in the photo they have but in the text, It says to put the screws in the III position of the ring. Clear as mud? Guess I'll try III and see what happens, Any wisdom you have gained in the past year since making this video? Thank you.
I have 2018 250rr race edition . Stupid question but is the complete clutch basket assy interchangeable between the two if I ever need to replace my basket ? Thanks
Hey Jared! Love all your helpful videos. Any downside to putting the 200rr clutch at #3 setting? Loss of clutch life? Also, noticed a squeal in 3rd gear all of a sudden going up a slight hill. Bike has 15 hrs. Not looking for repair advice, just want to see if it warrants an investigation!
Hey Jeff! Thanks for watching our videos, much appreciated! I would only recommend going in the stiffer direction. If you move the ring so it applies less pressure on the plates I seem to have issues with the clutch pumping up and not working correctly. Not sure about a squeal that is rather odd, especially only in one gear. Have you changed the gear oil at all to inspect it? Thanks, Jared
@@3SeasRecreation Thanks for the reply. Oil looks good. No debris worth mention. It happened twice while feathering up a hill in 3rd. I'll leave the plate as is. 👍
On the 4 strokes, is it possible to adjust the diaphragm clutch without taking the whole case cover off? Can we just take off the one covering the clutch itself? And if so, how easy is it to save that gasket?
Good afternoon, yep you can take off just the outer clutch cover. This one just happened to be off to install a kick start kit. Your gasket should be fine as its an ORing style gasket not a paper one. BUT its never a bad idea to have a spare!
@@3SeasRecreation Awesome thanks! One more question - is it possible to remove that cover without draining the oil - leaning the bike over or something if needed?
Does the 2023 200RR have the diaphragm clutch? I’ve looked around online and some people say it does and some say it does not. Beta’s website says it doesn’t but not sure if that’s updated for the US.
Good Evening, nope this still has the standard spring clutch. I just installed two kick start kits on brand new 2023 Beta 200's this week. Enjoy the ride, Jared
Jared, do you anticipate Beta engineers to add the diaphragm clutch to the 200RR models, maybe 2025? 2024 still doesn't have it. Wondering if I should wait a year.
Thanks Jared, you make really cool vids ! quick question, from what you saw do you think its possible to install a new clutch on the 2021 with obvious part replacement? or a maybe a combination of a 2022 Recklus Manual clutch and some 2022 Beta parts?
Thanks for watching our videos! Much appreciated. I would have to determine if the engine shaft that holds the clutch is the same. I think all the gears off the end of the crank would mesh properly and the clutch cover is the same so it should fit. You would most likely have to purchase a new push rod that goes from the slave cylinder over to the clutch basket as well. Thanks, Jared
Yes it will! They make a complete kit to update your clutch. If you live in the USA we offer discounts and usually free shipping depending on the dollar amount! Give us a call (716) 753-2628 Thanks, Jared
I have 2023 300 2t i have had clutch squeal three times my clutch also feels at the end of the lever no matter how i adjuat a lever should i be concerned 10 hours
Thanks for checking out the channel! Hmm have you checked your oil level from the dealer? Might want to check that. Other than that just remember if you are abusing the clutch in a mud ride you will replace things much sooner. Enjoy The Ride, Jared
hi Jared - I have 23 Beta390RR race edition and last ride the clutch slave started making creaking binding sounds. With the motor off it sounds like the piston is sticking and and releasing 4-5 times as you pull the clutch in. With the motor running, which is how i noticed it, you just feel slight spikes as you squeeze the leaver . like you have a cable clutch that's got a rusty cable. have you seen this before ? James ua-cam.com/video/Ti1iZeWdpCk/v-deo.html I greased and inspected the master, pivot, pushrod, spring, looks fine. I pulled the slave cylinder off the case and it looks normal, functions fine under finger pressure, but still squeaks under the weight of the clutch springs
Good Morning, that is pretty odd and I have not seen that. I would recommend a new slave cylinder assembly. They do sell them as a plug and play kit. We are glad to help with Beta parts if you don't have a local dealer. Enjoy the ride, Jared
@@3SeasRecreation Hi Jared. I put another 3 hours on it Sat and it seemed to settle down, but I'll contact my dealer here in Canberra - Australia . Thankyou
So I have a 2021.5 beta 300rr re and my clutch basket has 6 clutch springs and 6 bolts ? Anyone know if they did a revised version for 2021.5 ? I've heard they made a lot of changes for 2021 production runs . He's showing 4 here
Good Morning! They do make an upgrade kit that we can retrofit to the bikes that did not come with the new clutch if desired. If you live within the USA we can supply Beta parts! Feel free to give us a call for discounts! Enjoy the ride, Jared
Good Afternoon! Yes it does, Beta has a complete kit available to turn your bike into the newer style Diaphragm clutch. We offer discounts if you wish to order through us! Feel free to call (716) 753-2628 Thanks, Jared
Thank goodness BETA copied KTM's clutch design. It's way more durable than the clutch plates interfacing an aluminum clutch hub and basket. This new design will almost eliminate "notching" on the basket and hub. This single upgrade on BETA motorcycles might sway me towards beta from KTM!
BETA PARTS 🛠⚙- Choose "3 Seas Recreation" for your Beta parts! Customers can now order all Beta parts and accessories directly from the Beta USA website. All parts inventories are in real-time. Customers can choose shipping options and the best part, selecting their preferred dealer.
Why choose 3 Seas Recreation as your preferred dealer?
-We have spent over $40,000 this year alone on our race team, all of which are on Beta Motorcycles.
-We have produced over 300 "How To Beta Videos". All free to the public.
-When you choose "3 Seas Recreation" a portion of that sale will come back to our shop, all profit goes back into our race program and our UA-cam videos.
-Since 2011 we have been a pioneer with the Beta Brand in the USA and spend hundreds of hours giving advice over the phone for Free.
-We are BETA ONLY when it comes to Off Road Dirt bikes, all of our attention is on Beta!
-We take brand new bikes out of the show room and give full riding videos, none of this is backed by the Factory or Beta USA
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Keep up the beta videos. I like seeing the work being done and description of parts. I’ll be ordering stuff through you. Thanks
I appreciate that! We offer discounts and free shipping if the order is of a certain size! Enjoy the ride, Jared
Thanks for video and explination 👍
My pleasure! Enjoy The Ride, Jared
Thanks for the video. Do you know if the earlier models can be retrofitted to the diaphragm style? Sorry if this was asked already
Hi Jared, somewhat related to the new clutch. Will you be putting out an updated video on the oil pump gears for the 2022+ model year bikes? I'm going to be changing my plastic oil pump gears soon and it seems the best reference I have is your old video however I'm unsure of how different the process is.
Thanks
Appreciate all your helpful videos! Concerning the new clutch it should be said that the three positions are not there to make your clutch feel lighter or heavier. The three adjustments are to compensate for differences in stack height. Ideally the Belleville spring should be perfectly flat when the clutch is correctly installed. If it is slightly concave or convex, the different settings allow you to compensate for this and get the spring in a completely flat position. Greetings from Austria!
Thanks for checking out the channel and also for your positive insight! Always glad to hear and spread good info! Enjoy The Ride, Jared
They are for clutch feel i just installed a new diaphragm clutch on my beta and the directions state specifically for lighter pull or heavier the three settings it's just changing the preload .. the lighter feel is awesome especially for the technical stuff !! 😅
Great info thanks
Great video Jared, question, what has a better clutch feel, a recluse torque drive or the factory upgrade to the belleville washer style?
2019 300 RE
Thanks. I just traded my ‘22 Xtrainer for a 300RR. I’m going to adjust it to the first position for a lighter clutch pull. We’ll see if I get any slippage after some use. The Xtrainer’s clutch was extremely light.
Thanks for watching, hope you enjoy your new bike! Anytime you need parts feel free to give us a ring. I would be glad to work with you!
Did you adjusted to the lightest positon, any slippery?
@@doodzomething1568 I’m still a month away from riding. I’m looking forward to it though. It is definitely a lighter clutch pull.
@@adamniswonger8015 ok thanks!
Hey guys. Thanks for putting this video together. Have you tried the other settings (1 or 3)? Do you know which one has a shorter more aggressive pull, and which one has a long easy pull?
Good Morning, if you rotate that collar to the 1 position it pushes that collar against the spring plate harder which gives the bike a harder clutch pull. If you go to the 3 position it pulls that collar away from the spring plate making it have a softer feel. Thanks for watching! Jared
Does it change your engagement point of the clutch? I have a 2023 300rx and I have the lever as far in toward the bar as it will go and still don’t like the engagement. It is right at the point when I start to pull the lever is where the engagement and disengagement is….. I generally like my clutch slipping point to be right as the lever is almost touching my other fingers…..
Hey J, the clutch on a new to me 2023 seems to be slipping at high speeds. I opened it up and everything looks good with the clutch pack. The adjuster ring was in the II position when I took it apart. Noticed the Beta service manual shows the screw in the II position in the photo they have but in the text, It says to put the screws in the III position of the ring. Clear as mud? Guess I'll try III and see what happens, Any wisdom you have gained in the past year since making this video? Thank you.
I have 2018 250rr race edition . Stupid question but is the complete clutch basket assy interchangeable between the two if I ever need to replace my basket ? Thanks
Hey Jared! Love all your helpful videos. Any downside to putting the 200rr clutch at #3 setting? Loss of clutch life? Also, noticed a squeal in 3rd gear all of a sudden going up a slight hill. Bike has 15 hrs. Not looking for repair advice, just want to see if it warrants an investigation!
Hey Jeff! Thanks for watching our videos, much appreciated! I would only recommend going in the stiffer direction. If you move the ring so it applies less pressure on the plates I seem to have issues with the clutch pumping up and not working correctly. Not sure about a squeal that is rather odd, especially only in one gear. Have you changed the gear oil at all to inspect it? Thanks, Jared
@@3SeasRecreation Thanks for the reply. Oil looks good. No debris worth mention. It happened twice while feathering up a hill in 3rd. I'll leave the plate as is. 👍
@@jswervy16 I have 2023 10 hours had clutch squeal twice now in second I'm concerned should I be ?
Nah. It just does it
@@brenenduro nah. It's just a beta thing
On the 4 strokes, is it possible to adjust the diaphragm clutch without taking the whole case cover off? Can we just take off the one covering the clutch itself? And if so, how easy is it to save that gasket?
Good afternoon, yep you can take off just the outer clutch cover. This one just happened to be off to install a kick start kit. Your gasket should be fine as its an ORing style gasket not a paper one. BUT its never a bad idea to have a spare!
@@3SeasRecreation Awesome thanks! One more question - is it possible to remove that cover without draining the oil - leaning the bike over or something if needed?
Answered my own question - yes, simply tilt the bike on its side some and no oil will drip out when you remove the clutch cover.
Hi, if new clutch can be use on beta 300rr MY2015?
Does the 2023 200RR have the diaphragm clutch? I’ve looked around online and some people say it does and some say it does not. Beta’s website says it doesn’t but not sure if that’s updated for the US.
Good Evening, nope this still has the standard spring clutch. I just installed two kick start kits on brand new 2023 Beta 200's this week. Enjoy the ride, Jared
Jared, do you anticipate Beta engineers to add the diaphragm clutch to the 200RR models, maybe 2025? 2024 still doesn't have it. Wondering if I should wait a year.
Thanks Jared, you make really cool vids ! quick question, from what you saw do you think its possible to install a new clutch on the 2021 with obvious part replacement? or a maybe a combination of a 2022 Recklus Manual clutch and some 2022 Beta parts?
I'm have a 20 and I'm also curious about that
Yes you can. I put the 2022 clutch in my 2021 without an issue. You can find the parts list you will need to order on Thumpertalk
Thanks for watching our videos! Much appreciated. I would have to determine if the engine shaft that holds the clutch is the same. I think all the gears off the end of the crank would mesh properly and the clutch cover is the same so it should fit. You would most likely have to purchase a new push rod that goes from the slave cylinder over to the clutch basket as well. Thanks, Jared
@American Dirt Rider Thanks for answering his question! Glad to see someone has done it!
My 2021 300rr has this diaphragm clutch.
I’m curious; would a 2022 diaphragm clutch system be a direct swap into a 2021 model?
Yes it will! They make a complete kit to update your clutch. If you live in the USA we offer discounts and usually free shipping depending on the dollar amount! Give us a call (716) 753-2628 Thanks, Jared
My 21 has this clutch.
@@clurp1 as in, you bought it new and it had this from the factory…or as in, you or someone else installed one?
does the 23 xtrainer have this clutch type?
Good Afternoon, that is a great question. Yes the 23' Xtrainer has this clutch. Enjoy The Ride, Jared
I have 2023 300 2t i have had clutch squeal three times my clutch also feels at the end of the lever no matter how i adjuat a lever should i be concerned 10 hours
Thanks for checking out the channel! Hmm have you checked your oil level from the dealer? Might want to check that. Other than that just remember if you are abusing the clutch in a mud ride you will replace things much sooner. Enjoy The Ride, Jared
hi Jared - I have 23 Beta390RR race edition and last ride the clutch slave started making creaking binding sounds. With the motor off it sounds like the piston is sticking and and releasing 4-5 times as you pull the clutch in. With the motor running, which is how i noticed it, you just feel slight spikes as you squeeze the leaver . like you have a cable clutch that's got a rusty cable. have you seen this before ?
James ua-cam.com/video/Ti1iZeWdpCk/v-deo.html
I greased and inspected the master, pivot, pushrod, spring, looks fine. I pulled the slave cylinder off the case and it looks normal, functions fine under finger pressure, but still squeaks under the weight of the clutch springs
Good Morning, that is pretty odd and I have not seen that. I would recommend a new slave cylinder assembly. They do sell them as a plug and play kit. We are glad to help with Beta parts if you don't have a local dealer. Enjoy the ride, Jared
@@3SeasRecreation Hi Jared. I put another 3 hours on it Sat and it seemed to settle down, but I'll contact my dealer here in Canberra - Australia . Thankyou
So I have a 2021.5 beta 300rr re and my clutch basket has 6 clutch springs and 6 bolts ? Anyone know if they did a revised version for 2021.5 ? I've heard they made a lot of changes for 2021 production runs . He's showing 4 here
Is it possible I have the diagram basket already and all in need is to get the 2022 cone spring and mounting plate and just swap it out ?
Good Morning! They do make an upgrade kit that we can retrofit to the bikes that did not come with the new clutch if desired. If you live within the USA we can supply Beta parts! Feel free to give us a call for discounts! Enjoy the ride, Jared
My 21 300rr has a diaphragm cluth
Does the Diaphragm clutch fit 2021 300's. I'm using a midwest lever, but would prefer to go back to a standard adjustable lever if possible.
Good Afternoon! Yes it does, Beta has a complete kit available to turn your bike into the newer style Diaphragm clutch. We offer discounts if you wish to order through us! Feel free to call (716) 753-2628 Thanks, Jared
Thank goodness BETA copied KTM's clutch design. It's way more durable than the clutch plates interfacing an aluminum clutch hub and basket. This new design will almost eliminate "notching" on the basket and hub. This single upgrade on BETA motorcycles might sway me towards beta from KTM!
Which of the 3 numbers is soft, or which way is hard? 123 soft to hard or 123 hard to soft?
Good Morning, the number with the tallest step will be the softest and I believe without taking one back apart it is #1. Enjoy the ride, Jared