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A girl who shares a sense of humor with me once described my shelves as "more red flags than the Kremlin on Stalin's birthday". She immediately pointed out that that was meant as a compliment.
my highschool teacher recommended lolita to me when I was like15-16. she saw me take an interest in reading. said the use of language in it was beautiful.
Me rolling up to a round of blind speed dating with Atlas Shrugged, Storm of Steel, and The Decline of the West and copping fifty restraining orders. :D
All good, I mispoke. I actually filmed a seperate section for "On the Road" but my cat outside got stung by a wasp and it turned into an entire incident so I decided to refilm those parts.
Genuinely shocked by the lack of Jonathan Franzen. I guess guys who are into Franzen haven't pissed off enough women and broken enough hearts yet. Gotta get those numbers up, fellas!
I'm a woman, and I have some of these books and others of a similar nature on my shelf. However, I have a BA in English, and I specialized in modernist and postmodern literature, so it probably makes sense that I would have books like these. To me, the presence of books like most of the ones featured in this video would be a positive sign - an indication of intellectual curiosity. It all depends on what someone does with these books. If someone takes certain books far too seriously and falls down an undesirable rabbit hole, as can certainly happen with Ayn Rand, or if someone reads "On the Road" and decides to be overly inspired it and follow that path in life, then it can be a problem. (Incidentally, I love "On the Road," but I can clearly see that attempting to act it out in real life could lead a person to a bad place.) I have similar feelings about anarcho-capitalism - a strong devotion to this political philosophy is an indication of selfishness, and it correlates with abrasive, unpleasant personalities. The rudest and nastiest men I've met have been drawn to this philosophy. I have gotten into heated discussions with stereotypical anarcho-capitalist men. While these discussions can be interesting intellectual exercises, they are seldom pleasant experiences. Anarcho-socialism, on the other hand, is strongly appealing to me, but I question how compatible it is with human nature, and I think any implementation of it would be inherently unstable. New Age spirituality is another potential red flag for me, but it depends on how far down the rabbit hole people have gone. New Age is a difficult concept to define, but I have come to the general conclusion that it lacks a systematic method for the detection and elimination of bullshit, and this is the core problem. People get into stuff like this, and they let their feelings guide them to a wide range of lunacy. Getting into it a little isn't much of a problem, and there is value in some aspects of it, but those who go off the deep end either get killed in botched fake sweat lodge ceremonies or join cult leaders like Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh and poison restaurant buffets with salmonella. (I knew someone back in the 1980s who joined Rajneesh's cult. New Age led her down that sordid path.) For me, all this is hypothetical, except when it comes to friendships. I'm asexual/aromantic, so I refuse to date anybody. It's still fun to think about it. Getting back to books, for me the greatest red flag would be an absence of books, a small collection limited to the most basic of popular fiction, or a collection that consists entirely of political screeds (even if I agree with the political screeds). A lack of David Foster Wallace, Jack Kerouac, or Albert Camus might well be a red flag.
Was it really necessary to write an essay about your political opinions and your sexual orientation? Why is Ayn Rand in particular a dangerous "rabbit hole" and not writers on your side of the ideological spectrum, so probably Andrea Dworkin or Valerie Solanas? Why do you have problems with "anarcho-capitalist MEN (!)? Aren't there any "anarcho-capitalist women? Or is their sex more of a problem to you than their ideology? Why do you particularly hate "new-age" people who seemingly don't hurt anyone as opposed to, let's say Islam, a religion that hurts tons of people (ESPECIALLY women) everyday? Do you judge solely based on your feelings? And have you ever heard of "the more you write/say, the more mistakes you're likely to make"?
@nestorcsamacho6328, I think you are right. All knowledge can be bad in the wrong hands. A weak minded person might not be able to handle the knowledge given to them.
I would never give anybody a copy of infinite jest or gravity's rainbow offhandedly, those are book people should come upon on their own and decide on for themselves
As a woman,"red-flag books" is bullshit. I've only read the Catcher in the Rye and Lolita out of these. Catcher in the Rye is one of my favs. I do lament the loss of innocence and if that makes me undatable, then so be it.
I am honestly curious, why do you miss your innocence? You now know so much more about the world, and can use that knowledge accordingly. Bliss can be found again by someone willing to take the time.
The fact that you think The Catcher in the Rye is a red flag kind of makes your opinions suspect. You don’t really make any points when talking about it. You say it’s a book about the loss of innocence and then try to make connections about how that means the reader hasn’t read anything else or is having trouble growing up? Not your best explanation. Pass.
My gosh, your videos are so good now. I have always liked them, but you are in a groove. Those dating scenarios were hilarious, and my last date was in 1994. Thank you
On the Jordan thing, not that I don’t see it as hypocritical w his message, but he was prescribed it by a doctor for sleeplessness and upon coming off had allergic withdrawal symptoms. I don’t think it’s fair to suggest he was high and popping them all the time. Love the channel, just makes me think you have a certain bias toward not treating his addiction w empathy and knowing the burden of responsibility lay heavily in the hands of pharmacology. On the other hand i know it’s engaging comments like this and you gotta do what you gotta do
@@williamshears9953 No, he said he knew they were addictive. He said he didn’t know the extreme withdrawal effects in a minority of benzodiazepine users present without a psychological dependence. Some people have horrible reactions from ibuprofen and vaccines, I don’t blame them for the medicine’s issue, especially without adequate forewarning from a physician
I was just explaining to my son the history of my pet cats spending most of it on my long haired white with orange blotches Turkish Van which had seven toes on each front paw. We were just looking at pictures of cats like him earlier. This is the first video I've watched since and that cat goes walking past behind you reminding me of of Jung's synchronicity and pondering that. Then of course you mentioned Jung after that.
@@WriteConscious It is. I was following your video just fine and the second it came into frame my mind just shifted into that frustrating (what is that) synchronicity feeling like I'd be able to just figure out something deeper if I hold onto it. There's never an answer. Anyway his name was Wally and he loved water like step into the bathtub with you and sleep in the sink love of water.
I don't really see what people like to watch or read as a red flag. Take me for instance, I read and write horror, but I am not a serial k1ller nor am I a monster. I understand that entertainment is just that, entertainment. I think what becomes a problem is the personality and the character of the reader or viewer, but that is not reflected through the work or media they consume.
Could you imagine telling a girl “red flag if you read eat pray love or 50 shades of grey or Anna Karenina? Every girl I’ve ever dated has loved the bachelor, a show about polygamous and unfaithful promiscuity, makes me…uncomfortable. Do I judge women for watching it? No, I try to understand that it’s not for me, and I try not to read into it. I could draw just as many negative conclusions as the girl I just told “I’m getting really into David Goggins again,” (she was horrified for some reason) but I just won’t do that thanks. Read what you want, watch what you want, I’d rather be surprised than right.
Married writer of a novel here who loves Infinite Jest, Gravity's Rainbow, and has read every book on your list. This is so easy to fix it's silly guys. Do this-Read writers women love, read romance, read mystery, read New Adult fiction. Being able to discuss 'It Ends With Us' or 'The Handmaid's Tale' can be great flexes on a date. Plus, mentioning titles they aren't familiar with, like Vineland or Agape Agape. If you are worried about snobbery, don't be, have standards. Explain that reading is like exercise for your brain and fiction is like hiking in the mountains. You? You like hiking the tallest, most difficult mountains because that's what your mind has been trained to want. But there's a variety of reading experiences, just like. there are a variety of hiking/walking experiences. There is walking in the park and there is climbing K-2. Don't ever concede, display an understanding of the literary landscape without being arrogant. Better yet, and this is truly the best advice. Pivot away from books to the moment between the two of you, and do what makes you feel like you're in a book, not reading one.
But what if you’re simply not interested in the books like A Handmaid’s Tale or It Ends With Us? I’m not even sure if I have the time in my life to read everything I want to read, not to mention stuff I’m not that interested in
@@nattalavyapari if you think either of the books I mentioned are "feminist literature" you obviously haven't them. The flex is 'I read everything,' the flex is 'I don't judge,' the flex is 'I am Masculine enough to read anything and everything and assess it for myself instead of listening to UA-cam for dating tips. But hey, what do I know? Just married man with a beautiful daughter who used to be a professional broadcaster for 15 years. Perhaps I'm just out of touch with the dating game. Maybe it's just passed me by. I know nothing. Don't heed my advice.
Your point about Asimov was spot on I think; if they like the specific book by the author, what do they feel about others? For Hemingway, what do they think of Garden of Eden for example? For Hemingway specifically (good to meet a fellow scholar by the way) I think much of his writing deals with how to deal with trauma while keeping your masculinity intact. All the male leads are always broken in some way but find something to hang on to, that last shred of bravery, self esteem. And the way he writes women, in The Sun it could be described as being a little one-dimensional I guess. But the Short Happy Life of Francis Macomber, True at First Light, Garden of Eden?
Cool question. Some names are clearly going to be taken as red flags. De Sade. Machiavelli. Nietszche. Is Charles Bukowski a red flag? Robert Heinlein? If you're an artsy black man trying to meet artsy black women, avoid Eldridge Cleaver.
The prince is very tame tbh it’s more about the aura around the word machiavellian that supposedly makes it problematic. The book is basically geopolitics of renaissance italy, and how to be a prince. Which is a seminal work for political science today or you could compare to realpolitik. But i found most of it’s advice pretty tame with a lot of caveats and disclaimers from machiavelli himself
No man should ever care what any woman (or anyone) else thinks about his reading list. Anyone that thinks they can influence your reading needs to be told where the door is.
Love what you do and this is a fun video but I feel like Salinger gets short shrift compared to the other authors and books mentioned. I happen to be a woman who loves Salinger because he does such an amazing job of illuminating trauma and critiquing materialism. It's a shame that Catcher in the Rye is so often misunderstood and gets more attention than his other books. Franny and Zooey and Nine Stories are brilliant and arguably better than Catcher in the Rye. Would love to see you do a deep dive into his work even if you don't care for Salinger yourself.
I like The Fountainhead and haven't finished Atlas Shrugged, but I plan to someday. I read Rand's biographies, though. It's funny, her work is associated with Libertarians, Anarchists, Conservatives, and Christians, but she disavowed all of them and was in a bubble of her own. As much as I think there is value in going through her ideas, whether to scrutinize or learn from them, people of her Objectivist following happen to be some of the most insular dogmatists out there.. So I wouldn't dismiss someone for having Ayn Rand on their book shelf if they have a broad intellectual curiosity. But if you probe further and find out they are a hardcore objectivist, that may be valid grounds to turn the other way.
01:40 I've read "The Catcher in the Rye" twice already. It does not have a clear plot but it was readable, and I like Salinger's writing style. Women who say "Catcher" is a red flag book are those who only read Coleen Hoover.
I used to be a big Jordan Peterson fan. His podcast appearances were a gateway reading 12 Steps for Life. I came to the conclusion that Christain mythology and dancing around his own stance on the issue is just a part of his brand. Somehow he found an overwhelmingly huge Christian audience and he panders to them to enrich himself.
Read that book ages ago. Helped me identify the behaviour and tactics mentioned in my work experience and social life. Red flag it all you want. You're not clever about using knowledge to navigate life, that's your problem.
I wish I had read it as a boy. I went into a shark tank, so to speak, a real den of vipers. Had I read that book before I might have saved a piece of myself I lost in there.
Nothing on Bukowski? Schlepping the Post Office conjured up a whole lotta trouble. Some women would spasmodically hiss. I'd have to carry it around in a bag, and read it in secret.😆
""The Catcher In The Rye" is my favorite novel of all time It made me appreciate slice of life situations. It helped me to expand beyond the superhero genre and was one fo the influences that made me want to write slice of life stuff, everyday struggles. I will always be grateful for that. Salinger, Hemmingway, Faulkner, Twain, Steinbeck, they all helped me to want to write about everyday people. Well, my mentor also and a close friend, and as for dating...I have never dated and don't want to. I don't want to get married as I am scared to death of bringing children into the world. My favorite Hemmingway novel is "Old Man ANd The Sea I read it in my mentor's classroom and I love the old man's relationship with the boy.
I hate the idea of 'red flag books.' Like really? We need books to know if someone is 'problematic' or not? I was talking about this the other day on Twitter, but I don't read because I want to be reassured that I'm right and support my values. I read because I want to see other viewpoints that aren't my own. I want to be challenged by what I read, and this day and age where people parrot about things being 'toxic' or 'problematic' drives me fucking crazy. How about you read the fucking book and think about what the author is saying and what the book is saying? Could it be that hard? Critical thinking is dead. Also Catcher in The Rye sucks.
Who are you talking to when you say “read the fucking book”? Do you think the women that nominated these books haven’t read and thought deeply about them?
Agreed. If people can't make the distinction between what a person reads, watches, or listens to, they are the problem. I've read The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich, and it's one of the most impressive books I've ever read. I learned plenty about WWII from it. And that certainly doesn't make me a fan of Naziism. If a person watches a series about serial killers, does that make him or her a potential serial killer? Doubt it. People have lost the ability to think critically, and that, taken too far, has lead to book banning, and all sorts of ignorant, regressive politics. Wake up and think people! And read, read alot !
I respect your experiences with The Stranger, but I don’t think the book is a red flag, because people react to reading it in a million different ways, and the book itself is far from nihilistic (which is really what you’re describing most of the time when you talk about existentialism, as you sort of acknowledge here). Someone could read The Stranger and begin a serious inner journey just as easily as they could read it and turn into a Nietzsche wannabe.
Red flag is someone who looks down on other people because they may not be as well-read as he thinks he is. Intellectual snobbery is proof you haven't gained much from reading all this great literature.
@@candide1065 No you're not the sexist anything, for sure. You just react like one when a woman responds to a comment that refers to women as allergic to literacy. Which is a sad and biased point of view and just proves that weak men( judging from the comments you are quite a few apparently) have always feared women who read.(why though?) That's what it's all about in the end. So when you say "stay mad, whiny and weak" you 're the one who' s doing the projecting. Don't kid yourself my friend. You would't be so bitter insecure and sarcastic in your response if you were't afraid of women in the first place, or if you were loved by them. I understand your hate but it's yours to live with.
I don't think Ayn Rand is a red flag for girls. There are multiple female Hollywood celebrities who are fans of Rand. You can therefore imagine that she'd have some popularity with normal women. She's more of a "red-flag" for close minded leftists or religious fanatics. They may be of either gender.
@WriteConscious please listen to the song/album “The Last Pale Light In The West.” It is a seven-song concept album inspired by Cormac McCarthy's book Blood Meridian with each song based on characters and situations drawn from the novel.
I unintentionally turned on the daughter of a famous writer by quoting Dr Johnson. I was not interested in her, but probably slipped those quotes in to impress her. It's interesting seeing the books that were influential to young Americans, because as a youth in Britain we had a completely different set of books. The Loneliness of the Long Distance Runner, Borstal Boy, Lord of the Flies, Saturday Night and Sunday Morning, to name a few.
I was reading the authorized biography on Henry Kissinger by Niall Ferguson. A woman came up to me and said it was extremely attractive. Was it me? Was it Henry? It was my best Waffle House breakfast ever. I thought Henry was King Red Flag!
as a general rule, what they mean by this is that if you identify or enjoy reading about the exploits of these characters too much, it could be an indicator as to certain aspects of your personality. There's a joke/rumor floating around that Chuck Palahniuk didn't want his daughter to date guys who were too into the his book.
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I see women that see books as red flags, as a red flag.
A girl who shares a sense of humor with me once described my shelves as "more red flags than the Kremlin on Stalin's birthday". She immediately pointed out that that was meant as a compliment.
@@SmallSpaceCorgi LOL that's a delicious little anecdote.
Lolita also has very poetic language. It's a great read. Doesn't mean I like little girls.
I like eccentrics who write about eccentrics who like little girls.
@@connorhlane Me too.
my highschool teacher recommended lolita to me when I was like15-16. she saw me take an interest in reading. said the use of language in it was beautiful.
@@Wingedmagician Sounds like a good teacher.
I tend to wonder how much famous film adaptions color the original novel in people's minds. I haven't read it or watched to movie(s).
Not into reading? Try this Pynchon!
So stupid, like taking someone to the gym for the first time "let's bench 500 lbs!"
Me rolling up to a round of blind speed dating with Atlas Shrugged, Storm of Steel, and The Decline of the West and copping fifty restraining orders. :D
ha ha 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Storm of Steel!
Respect the balls.
I would never read or refrain from reading a particular book because the book might be on somebody’s “red flag” list.
The premise was that these are mentioned as favorite books on a first date. Nobody said you should or shouldn't read them lol.
Jack Kerouac's book is titled "On the Road" not "The Road". The Road was Cormac McCarthy. I'm not trying to be a douche, I'm trying to be helpful.
All good, I mispoke. I actually filmed a seperate section for "On the Road" but my cat outside got stung by a wasp and it turned into an entire incident so I decided to refilm those parts.
@@WriteConsciousJiminy Christmas, I Hope your cat is okay
Genuinely shocked by the lack of Jonathan Franzen. I guess guys who are into Franzen haven't pissed off enough women and broken enough hearts yet. Gotta get those numbers up, fellas!
I'm a woman, and I have some of these books and others of a similar nature on my shelf. However, I have a BA in English, and I specialized in modernist and postmodern literature, so it probably makes sense that I would have books like these. To me, the presence of books like most of the ones featured in this video would be a positive sign - an indication of intellectual curiosity. It all depends on what someone does with these books. If someone takes certain books far too seriously and falls down an undesirable rabbit hole, as can certainly happen with Ayn Rand, or if someone reads "On the Road" and decides to be overly inspired it and follow that path in life, then it can be a problem. (Incidentally, I love "On the Road," but I can clearly see that attempting to act it out in real life could lead a person to a bad place.)
I have similar feelings about anarcho-capitalism - a strong devotion to this political philosophy is an indication of selfishness, and it correlates with abrasive, unpleasant personalities. The rudest and nastiest men I've met have been drawn to this philosophy. I have gotten into heated discussions with stereotypical anarcho-capitalist men. While these discussions can be interesting intellectual exercises, they are seldom pleasant experiences. Anarcho-socialism, on the other hand, is strongly appealing to me, but I question how compatible it is with human nature, and I think any implementation of it would be inherently unstable.
New Age spirituality is another potential red flag for me, but it depends on how far down the rabbit hole people have gone. New Age is a difficult concept to define, but I have come to the general conclusion that it lacks a systematic method for the detection and elimination of bullshit, and this is the core problem. People get into stuff like this, and they let their feelings guide them to a wide range of lunacy. Getting into it a little isn't much of a problem, and there is value in some aspects of it, but those who go off the deep end either get killed in botched fake sweat lodge ceremonies or join cult leaders like Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh and poison restaurant buffets with salmonella. (I knew someone back in the 1980s who joined Rajneesh's cult. New Age led her down that sordid path.)
For me, all this is hypothetical, except when it comes to friendships. I'm asexual/aromantic, so I refuse to date anybody. It's still fun to think about it. Getting back to books, for me the greatest red flag would be an absence of books, a small collection limited to the most basic of popular fiction, or a collection that consists entirely of political screeds (even if I agree with the political screeds). A lack of David Foster Wallace, Jack Kerouac, or Albert Camus might well be a red flag.
Was it really necessary to write an essay about your political opinions and your sexual orientation?
Why is Ayn Rand in particular a dangerous "rabbit hole" and not writers on your side of the ideological spectrum, so probably Andrea Dworkin or Valerie Solanas? Why do you have problems with "anarcho-capitalist MEN (!)? Aren't there any "anarcho-capitalist women? Or is their sex more of a problem to you than their ideology?
Why do you particularly hate "new-age" people who seemingly don't hurt anyone as opposed to, let's say Islam, a religion that hurts tons of people (ESPECIALLY women) everyday?
Do you judge solely based on your feelings? And have you ever heard of "the more you write/say, the more mistakes you're likely to make"?
The books are not the redflags, the guys reading and basing their personalities in them are.
The Secret is the only legitimate red flag on this list
@nestorcsamacho6328, I think you are right. All knowledge can be bad in the wrong hands. A weak minded person might not be able to handle the knowledge given to them.
Interesting point
agree
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I was never forced to read Catcher in the Rye. I read it on my own. I loved it. Still do.
I would never give anybody a copy of infinite jest or gravity's rainbow offhandedly, those are book people should come upon on their own and decide on for themselves
As a woman,"red-flag books" is bullshit. I've only read the Catcher in the Rye and Lolita out of these. Catcher in the Rye is one of my favs. I do lament the loss of innocence and if that makes me undatable, then so be it.
I am honestly curious, why do you miss your innocence? You now know so much more about the world, and can use that knowledge accordingly. Bliss can be found again by someone willing to take the time.
It you meet a man that likes Altas Shrugged, you are dealing with a complete psychopath.
@JackbenImbel2274 are you serious??
@JackbenImbel2274 you don't miss not being jaded and experiencing all your friends dying??
@@blurredlenzpictures3251That’s just ridiculous.
My sister gave me a copy of The Stranger when I was 13 and I spent the next 15 years getting over it.
That is my warning on The Stranger.
The fact that you think The Catcher in the Rye is a red flag kind of makes your opinions suspect. You don’t really make any points when talking about it. You say it’s a book about the loss of innocence and then try to make connections about how that means the reader hasn’t read anything else or is having trouble growing up? Not your best explanation. Pass.
We had to read Catcher in the Rye in high school. It's also on the list of great English books and that is why it is on my shelf.
Any woman that thinks the books I read are red flags just red flagged herself way the hell outta my life.
Jack Kerouac's book was prescribed at my university, so it is on my bookshelf, loud and proud. It doesn't have to be a manual for life.
I would be impressed if a women even concerned herself with what book i was reading!!
My gosh, your videos are so good now. I have always liked them, but you are in a groove. Those dating scenarios were hilarious, and my last date was in 1994. Thank you
Let's be honest, the Infinite Jest-"criticism" just boils down to insecurity from women who got filtered.
lol
When you want to get to know the other person a little deeper, your idea is to read Pynchon with them?
I'm surprised you' re married.
I just realized that someone needs to invent a pool table with a piano keyboard built in.
lol
If this books are red flags, then i definitely need to read them!
On the Jordan thing, not that I don’t see it as hypocritical w his message, but he was prescribed it by a doctor for sleeplessness and upon coming off had allergic withdrawal symptoms. I don’t think it’s fair to suggest he was high and popping them all the time. Love the channel, just makes me think you have a certain bias toward not treating his addiction w empathy and knowing the burden of responsibility lay heavily in the hands of pharmacology. On the other hand i know it’s engaging comments like this and you gotta do what you gotta do
He wrote his thesis in addiction and publicly said he didn't know benzos were addictive lmao
@@williamshears9953 No, he said he knew they were addictive. He said he didn’t know the extreme withdrawal effects in a minority of benzodiazepine users present without a psychological dependence. Some people have horrible reactions from ibuprofen and vaccines, I don’t blame them for the medicine’s issue, especially without adequate forewarning from a physician
@@williamshears9953that's called "lying"
I would at least guess any manifestos from lone nuts are automatic red flags
Valerie Solanas?
The Unabomber is pretty spot on.
Uncle Ted was 100% right
Books I see as a green flag in women: Industrial Society and It's Future
@@drlobomaloBut to be fair, Andy Warhal was a nerd
This is great. I'll be reading them all.
I was just explaining to my son the history of my pet cats spending most of it on my long haired white with orange blotches Turkish Van which had seven toes on each front paw. We were just looking at pictures of cats like him earlier. This is the first video I've watched since and that cat goes walking past behind you reminding me of of Jung's synchronicity and pondering that. Then of course you mentioned Jung after that.
lmao that's crazy. I have polydactyl turkish van!
@@WriteConscious It is. I was following your video just fine and the second it came into frame my mind just shifted into that frustrating (what is that) synchronicity feeling like I'd be able to just figure out something deeper if I hold onto it. There's never an answer. Anyway his name was Wally and he loved water like step into the bathtub with you and sleep in the sink love of water.
That's crazy!!! Always happens to me. Didn't know it had a name. Now I know Jung coined the term.
I don't really see what people like to watch or read as a red flag. Take me for instance, I read and write horror, but I am not a serial k1ller nor am I a monster. I understand that entertainment is just that, entertainment. I think what becomes a problem is the personality and the character of the reader or viewer, but that is not reflected through the work or media they consume.
Hitler had a library filled to the brim with great works of literature. Which he read.
@@harlan14 EXACTLY! And we see what he turned out to be. No virtue or decency in his soul, despite his library tastes.
Just happened on your channel today and this was gold!
Could you imagine telling a girl “red flag if you read eat pray love or 50 shades of grey or Anna Karenina? Every girl I’ve ever dated has loved the bachelor, a show about polygamous and unfaithful promiscuity, makes me…uncomfortable. Do I judge women for watching it? No, I try to understand that it’s not for me, and I try not to read into it. I could draw just as many negative conclusions as the girl I just told “I’m getting really into David Goggins again,” (she was horrified for some reason) but I just won’t do that thanks. Read what you want, watch what you want, I’d rather be surprised than right.
Married writer of a novel here who loves Infinite Jest, Gravity's Rainbow, and has read every book on your list. This is so easy to fix it's silly guys. Do this-Read writers women love, read romance, read mystery, read New Adult fiction. Being able to discuss 'It Ends With Us' or 'The Handmaid's Tale' can be great flexes on a date. Plus, mentioning titles they aren't familiar with, like Vineland or Agape Agape. If you are worried about snobbery, don't be, have standards. Explain that reading is like exercise for your brain and fiction is like hiking in the mountains. You? You like hiking the tallest, most difficult mountains because that's what your mind has been trained to want. But there's a variety of reading experiences, just like. there are a variety of hiking/walking experiences. There is walking in the park and there is climbing K-2. Don't ever concede, display an understanding of the literary landscape without being arrogant. Better yet, and this is truly the best advice. Pivot away from books to the moment between the two of you, and do what makes you feel like you're in a book, not reading one.
But what if you’re simply not interested in the books like A Handmaid’s Tale or It Ends With Us? I’m not even sure if I have the time in my life to read everything I want to read, not to mention stuff I’m not that interested in
Saying I read feminist literature as a flex is lame and desperate as fuck
Colleen Hoover is toxic
ok but it's not that women only read shitty books like it ends with us
@@nattalavyapari if you think either of the books I mentioned are "feminist literature" you obviously haven't them. The flex is 'I read everything,' the flex is 'I don't judge,' the flex is 'I am Masculine enough to read anything and everything and assess it for myself instead of listening to UA-cam for dating tips. But hey, what do I know? Just married man with a beautiful daughter who used to be a professional broadcaster for 15 years. Perhaps I'm just out of touch with the dating game. Maybe it's just passed me by. I know nothing. Don't heed my advice.
If she read Tampa by Alyssa Nutting from beginning to end issa red flag 😂
"Tampa" was hilarious!
Red flag: a date that thinks any drug makes you "intellectual." lol
Your point about Asimov was spot on I think; if they like the specific book by the author, what do they feel about others? For Hemingway, what do they think of Garden of Eden for example? For Hemingway specifically (good to meet a fellow scholar by the way) I think much of his writing deals with how to deal with trauma while keeping your masculinity intact. All the male leads are always broken in some way but find something to hang on to, that last shred of bravery, self esteem. And the way he writes women, in The Sun it could be described as being a little one-dimensional I guess. But the Short Happy Life of Francis Macomber, True at First Light, Garden of Eden?
The real ref flag is anyone taking ref flags from social media seriously
Cool question. Some names are clearly going to be taken as red flags. De Sade. Machiavelli. Nietszche.
Is Charles Bukowski a red flag?
Robert Heinlein?
If you're an artsy black man trying to meet artsy black women, avoid Eldridge Cleaver.
What about Ibn Khaldun? Arguably the (better) Arab Machiavelli.
The prince is very tame tbh it’s more about the aura around the word machiavellian that supposedly makes it problematic. The book is basically geopolitics of renaissance italy, and how to be a prince. Which is a seminal work for political science today or you could compare to realpolitik. But i found most of it’s advice pretty tame with a lot of caveats and disclaimers from machiavelli himself
@@gamf5996 Yeah, people view him as a psychopath when he was actually an advocate of republican government and very much against unchecked tyranny.
If "red flag" means cool, intelligent books that women can't handle, then yeah, they must be red flag af.
No man should ever care what any woman (or anyone) else thinks about his reading list. Anyone that thinks they can influence your reading needs to be told where the door is.
Love what you do and this is a fun video but I feel like Salinger gets short shrift compared to the other authors and books mentioned. I happen to be a woman who loves Salinger because he does such an amazing job of illuminating trauma and critiquing materialism. It's a shame that Catcher in the Rye is so often misunderstood and gets more attention than his other books. Franny and Zooey and Nine Stories are brilliant and arguably better than Catcher in the Rye. Would love to see you do a deep dive into his work even if you don't care for Salinger yourself.
I like The Fountainhead and haven't finished Atlas Shrugged, but I plan to someday. I read Rand's biographies, though. It's funny, her work is associated with Libertarians, Anarchists, Conservatives, and Christians, but she disavowed all of them and was in a bubble of her own. As much as I think there is value in going through her ideas, whether to scrutinize or learn from them, people of her Objectivist following happen to be some of the most insular dogmatists out there.. So I wouldn't dismiss someone for having Ayn Rand on their book shelf if they have a broad intellectual curiosity. But if you probe further and find out they are a hardcore objectivist, that may be valid grounds to turn the other way.
01:40 I've read "The Catcher in the Rye" twice already. It does not have a clear plot but it was readable, and I like Salinger's writing style. Women who say "Catcher" is a red flag book are those who only read Coleen Hoover.
I consider Coleen Hoover to be a red flag lol. Those relationships are unhealthy.
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I used to be a big Jordan Peterson fan. His podcast appearances were a gateway reading 12 Steps for Life. I came to the conclusion that Christain mythology and dancing around his own stance on the issue is just a part of his brand. Somehow he found an overwhelmingly huge Christian audience and he panders to them to enrich himself.
Me reading so much more manga makes me a red flag to them. Saying Berserk is my favorite may get them to report me to the FBI. XD
What about all the books women have ...that show the man he is making a huge mistake? She is way too "damaged".
I think you wanted to talk about this list just to mention Infinite jest again :D I guess I have to read it now
I’m just glad you didn’t hate on Ayn Rand. My wife and I both love her. It was a green flag 😊
Dude. Ayn Rand. Pronounced "Ein". Her name is a mashup of a Russian word and the Rand typewriter that she used when she worked for Cecil B. DeMille.
The only book I consider a red flag is “the 48 laws of power”. Oh you liked the manipulation tactic handbook? That’s interesting 🧐
Read that book ages ago. Helped me identify the behaviour and tactics mentioned in my work experience and social life. Red flag it all you want. You're not clever about using knowledge to navigate life, that's your problem.
I haven't read but its a best seller. If you think reading or liking a problematic book or film is a red flag. Then the real red flag is you
Sus sus very sus to want to understand power. Very very sus
I wish I had read it as a boy. I went into a shark tank, so to speak, a real den of vipers. Had I read that book before I might have saved a piece of myself I lost in there.
Darn it. You got me.
Nothing on Bukowski? Schlepping the Post Office conjured up a whole lotta trouble. Some women would spasmodically hiss. I'd have to carry it around in a bag, and read it in secret.😆
Bukowski is the only writer a professor showed disdain for openly. Glad his work still affects people that way.
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@@thewunderbunkpoetryproject1199 should clarify this was about his writing, though he made it clear he hated Bukowski as well for obv reasons lmao
My red flag for the people I dated: 8/10 separate novels written by a single author and NOT in a continuous genre series.
I got to admit man, you’re good. Subscribed.
I find it a red flag when I see so -called sci-fi buffs claim their favorite book is "Ready Player One."
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You insult me assuming I don’t also have that same edition of infinite jest as well
Me: Industrial Society and its futu...
Every woman: He's perfect!
Thus spoke Zarathustra and Story of the Eye are my favorites. Is that a red flag?
If a date likes "Story of the Eye", my first thought is that she and I are going to have a great time.
""The Catcher In The Rye" is my favorite novel of all time It made me appreciate slice of life situations. It helped me to expand beyond the superhero genre and was one fo the influences that made me want to write slice of life stuff, everyday struggles. I will always be grateful for that. Salinger, Hemmingway, Faulkner, Twain, Steinbeck, they all helped me to want to write about everyday people. Well, my mentor also and a close friend, and as for dating...I have never dated and don't want to. I don't want to get married as I am scared to death of bringing children into the world. My favorite Hemmingway novel is "Old Man ANd The Sea
I read it in my mentor's classroom and I love the old man's relationship with the boy.
Sooooooo where did you get those awesome McCarthy T-shirts?
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I hate the idea of 'red flag books.' Like really? We need books to know if someone is 'problematic' or not? I was talking about this the other day on Twitter, but I don't read because I want to be reassured that I'm right and support my values. I read because I want to see other viewpoints that aren't my own. I want to be challenged by what I read, and this day and age where people parrot about things being 'toxic' or 'problematic' drives me fucking crazy. How about you read the fucking book and think about what the author is saying and what the book is saying? Could it be that hard?
Critical thinking is dead. Also Catcher in The Rye sucks.
Who are you talking to when you say “read the fucking book”? Do you think the women that nominated these books haven’t read and thought deeply about them?
@@vondogbucks No, I'm talking about people who think they should tell you how to read.
Atlas Shrugged is a red flag for men or women.
Catcher in the Rye is great. So are Salinger's other works
Agreed. If people can't make the distinction between what a person reads, watches, or listens to, they are the problem.
I've read The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich, and it's one of the most impressive books I've ever read. I learned plenty about WWII from it. And that certainly doesn't make me a fan of Naziism.
If a person watches a series about serial killers, does that make him or her a potential serial killer? Doubt it.
People have lost the ability to think critically, and that, taken too far, has lead to book banning, and all sorts of ignorant, regressive politics.
Wake up and think people! And read, read alot !
Is “The Sound And The Fury” a red flag?
I hope not. I haven't read it since undergraduate days, but I recall enjoying it. ("Absalom, Absalom" remains a favorite)
>If they read this book, they might be religious, and you don't want that...
Hopin' you check that bias ere goin' into the classroom.
What about The Virgin Suicides by Jeffrey Eugenides? No no and definitely red flag or ok?
Are you kidding?? I 'll marry you!
(My most favourite is The Marriage Plot)
Jordan Peterson wasn't a Cristian a few years ago, but he is one now, so is her daughter. Btw, I love your videos man, like, I LOVE your videos.
Hey, I love you! I want you to be on my bookshelf one day. Let's get to work!
thanks for the reading list
I'm never apologizing for loving Blood Meridian. Judge Holden is literally me
I respect your experiences with The Stranger, but I don’t think the book is a red flag, because people react to reading it in a million different ways, and the book itself is far from nihilistic (which is really what you’re describing most of the time when you talk about existentialism, as you sort of acknowledge here).
Someone could read The Stranger and begin a serious inner journey just as easily as they could read it and turn into a Nietzsche wannabe.
Be concerned about yourself if you put so much weight on the options of women.
Romance of Three Kingdoms, it's got it all 😎
Red flag is someone who looks down on other people because they may not be as well-read as he thinks he is. Intellectual snobbery is proof you haven't gained much from reading all this great literature.
Missed Charles Bukowski
So funny in The Holdovers how he has a big box of the same book which he gives to everyone: Meditations by Marcus Aurelius.
(Green flag).
Literacy gives women The Ick
What gives women the Ick is misogyny and the self-importance of some men. Both equally sad.
@@harlan14 Stay mad, whiny and weak.
@@candide1065 Stay bitter. Insecure. Unloved.
@@harlan14 The projection is too strong in your comments. I'm also not the sexist Karen here, lol. The unloved part must be especially hard for you.
@@candide1065 No you're not the sexist anything, for sure. You just react like one when a woman responds to a comment that refers to women as allergic to literacy. Which is a sad and biased point of view and just proves that weak men( judging from the comments you are quite a few apparently) have always feared women who read.(why though?) That's what it's all about in the end. So when you say "stay mad, whiny and weak" you 're the one who' s doing the projecting. Don't kid yourself my friend.
You would't be so bitter insecure and sarcastic in your response if you were't afraid of women in the first place, or if you were loved by them. I understand your hate but it's yours to live with.
This one is for younger guys like you, Write Conscious! 🙂
women with opinions. red flag
Don't let the size intimidate you 😅
I don't think Ayn Rand is a red flag for girls. There are multiple female Hollywood celebrities who are fans of Rand. You can therefore imagine that she'd have some popularity with normal women.
She's more of a "red-flag" for close minded leftists or religious fanatics. They may be of either gender.
@WriteConscious please listen to the song/album “The Last Pale Light In The West.” It is a seven-song concept album inspired by Cormac McCarthy's book Blood Meridian with each song based on characters and situations drawn from the novel.
Well now i got to order all of these
I really like your videos, man. Big love from Ireland.
I unintentionally turned on the daughter of a famous writer by quoting Dr Johnson. I was not interested in her, but probably slipped those quotes in to impress her.
It's interesting seeing the books that were influential to young Americans, because as a youth in Britain we had a completely different set of books. The Loneliness of the Long Distance Runner, Borstal Boy, Lord of the Flies, Saturday Night and Sunday Morning, to name a few.
Blood Meridian?.....don't memba any broads in that?
My pop's favorite book is The Secret
Just say you don't read anything on dates. Better to be perceived as a dolt than someone who appreciates culture.
Lol, are you just trying to get laid? If not, it's better to dump everything on the table as soon as you can!
@@WriteConscious Yeah, I think most guys are. I also hate when people think I'm something I'm not. I just prefer to avoid it if I can.
Who is the woman in the thumbnail
Why are you looking through my entire library?
Is that your gaff dude? It's sweet.
This was hilarious. More videos like this one please!
I will be waving mine indefinitely! 🚩
If you red flag a person based on books they read, then you are a red flag for me.
I think almost every fictional book is a red flag these days to women lol
You don't say!
I was reading the authorized biography on Henry Kissinger by Niall Ferguson. A woman came up to me and said it was extremely attractive. Was it me? Was it Henry? It was my best Waffle House breakfast ever. I thought Henry was King Red Flag!
Charles Bukowski, Women .
I love all these books (except Twilight)...maybe I should read Colleen Hoover to be a green flag
What are the books women are into? Any red flags?
What books do I need to read to get Jenny the Prom Queen to notice me at school? ua-cam.com/video/hAFuD-S-e_E/v-deo.htmlfeature=shared
Great video Ian
I wonder where A Confederacy of Dunces would rank on the red/green flag scale lol
It mocks protoincels and conservative twats, so it qualifies for a green flag!
Dude, Ian, this isn't a light subject. Chicks with issues is a SERIOUS problem for some guys. Seriously.
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You could make a podcast easily, dude.
Thanks brotha. Do you mean just about books with guests?
@@WriteConscious Yeah, you love talking about books
Podcast would be great
as a general rule, what they mean by this is that if you identify or enjoy reading about the exploits of these characters too much, it could be an indicator as to certain aspects of your personality. There's a joke/rumor floating around that Chuck Palahniuk didn't want his daughter to date guys who were too into the his book.
Have you asked them since you're so sure about that?