I love that you discuss real issues, skills etc. without any sense of fear. There's enough of that already. We need more people like you out there, Sister!
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I’ve been living off the grid for several years now. I am also a truck driver. I went through the rounds myself with several of these types of products in the first couple of years. I too tried the dietz 2000 millennial cooking lantern. It’s good for warming up a cup of soup, on a warm day with no wind, but that’s about it. I live in Idaho, the temperature commonly gets well below zero during the winter, so that too is a factor that I must consider. Mine mostly just collects dust on the shelf. I never really have use for it. For cooking, the most durable, efficient, versatile, and reliable product I have found is a good old fashioned Coleman White gas stove. A newer model 424 or an older 425 would suit your cooking needs well. These have 2 burners. They are lightweight. They will run on regular gasoline out of the pump. I don’t notice any smells at all. I do crack open a window when using them. They fold down into a suitcase size. These can be found at yard sales, thrift stores, or brand new. If you just want 1 small stove with just one burner, and more compact, then there is a lot of options there too. A model 533 stove would suit your needs well. It too runs on regular gas from the pump, but is much smaller. As far as lighting goes, I have several lanterns to choose from in my collection. I have a few dietz lanterns, Alladin lanterns, and several old Coleman lanterns. I could go into the pro’s and cons of each. I have found that the old Coleman lanterns are the most reliable and cost effective to operate in the long run. My personal favorite is the Coleman model 237. Mine was made in 1953, it is a very good product! Parts are still available for it to this day! It is a single mantle lantern that specifically burns Kerosene. It puts out more light than any other lantern that I have. I use it every day. The model 237 kerosene lantern is not easy to find though. Coleman still makes the model 639C which is a model specifically for burning kerosene. It too is a single mantle lantern. The model 639C is a good option, and I used mine every day before I found my old 237. The 639 can be found on amazon or ebay for around $100 brand new. However, I will say that my old 237 made in 1953 is a much higher quality product than the new 639C. You can find the old 237’s like mine on ebay, but you can expect to pay anywhere from $150-$500 for one. One thing that this lifestyle has taught me...is that overall product quality is absolutely mandatory. A lot of people make the mistake of buying inferior products because of costs. I too am guilty of this. I’ve learned the hard way that a person is better off saving up their money and buying a good quality product that will last for generations. Older Coleman products are excellent quality. Great video btw! 😀😀
I'm a welding inspector and utility inspector and I work on the pipeline a lot. I drive a little Jeep and what I use to heat up my coffee or cook soup is an alcohol stove. It fits in my cup holder. I typically use 91 rubbing alcohol. But like you say anytime you have a heat source you need ventilation. I can tell you when the temperature gets below freezing even the alcohol stove is not going to warm up your vehicle. You can warm your hands over it and it does make it a little more bearable. But I would never try to use my Lantern as a primary cooking device. They are great if you're going to have a lantern anyway, and it's a good way to avoid making another fire. They are good for heating up coffee you already have or making cocoa. But I can tell you the first thing you need to do is give those little pots and pans a way to some little kids to play with. You're better off getting one of those cheap Cub Scout cooking sets at Walmart for 6 bucks. or getting a $5 stainless steel metal cup in the same Department.
Curtis Frew...Hello! I was wondering where could I find the newer model Coleman white gas stove, model 424, and what gasoline if preferred, can 10% ethanol be used, or must it be 100% gas. Appreciated ur info and hope to hear from u on my questions! Thank u
In the 70s I had a coleman stove for camping. It used to scare me. When I set it up after storage. When u start it. it would have a flame pop where the section meet to gether from the tank. Scary. Once it was lite it was ok. That fire pop spoke me so made my husband light it. Eventually w my moves I finally got rid of it.
Excellent review, I remember 40 years ago... lol... I learned in boy scouts that a metal coffee can would fit over the Coleman type lanterns. If you trimmed it in half and took a pointed can opener to punch holes at top, you had a great hot plate to cook on. And it would boil water very quickly.
30 years ago in my Scout days we used the Coleman Peak1 white gas stoves and they packed neatly insidse a #10 coffee can which, with custom coat hanger bail, was the main cooking pot/ water bucket.
I love the way you manage to have a positive attitude even while the product is disappointing you. Although not for use inside the home, have you ever heard of, or used a Kelly Kettle. It can be cooked on in several ways, and provides a LOT of hot water. It does not, however, furnish light. Thank you for all your efforts in providing us great information, advice, and uplifting messages. David
I was looking up reviews for this lantern, came across this video, and your comment. I looked up a kelly kettle, and this channel just uploaded a video on it yesterday. Go figure.
These type laterns are very nostalgic. I have one around just for decoration. Got a home made alcohol stove for power outage and such. Thank you, I agree if quality made ln USA would be better and very handy.
I greatly appreciate your videos. Im trying to prepare and Im doing it despite the ridicule of family and friends. I appreciate watching your calm presentations. They are interesting, reassuring and valued.
There’s a fellow named Woody Kirkman, in Ramona, CA (my hometown). He’s been fascinated with Dietz Lanterns since he was a kid. Its been a good many years now, but Woody collected these lanterns. He collected and traded so many that it became an e-bay sort of business for him. He also repaired for people. Woody gained a couple of patents and I believe, formed some sort of business arrangement with Dietz. You could google his name to fill in the blanks in my story.
Thank you for your intelligent honest review. I don't buy Chinese nor cook with aluminum. So happy I watched this!!! God bless you and please keep the videos coming.
I really appreciate your review. It amazes me that so many manufacturers turn to China for production since they can get a larger profit from sales. But, I'm finding that too many products are made so poorly, in order to be affordable, that I can't help but wonder if the gains are really there; over making things in the U.S.A. Thank you for sharing your feedback. I hope some U.S. entrepreneur runs with your suggestions and makes a better product.
Well done! I've had mine for several years. It provides light just fine. Oh, goody, it melts butter, warms baby food, syrup, and cheese dip, scrambles an egg. But you are so right. It's not going to get you a decent cup of coffee or tea. Bummer. BTW, your intro is always a delight. Just a reminder, in case you haven't been complimented lately.
I just ordered this lantern and I’m amazed that god brought your channel into my life and I do consider myself quite a inventive individual,I will look at this product and try to improve on it as a promise to your challenge. I too use my love of camping as a survivalist teaching.
Christa, just assemble a simple rocket stove. The cost will be about $10, and assembly time is about 10 minutes. It will heat a large cast iron dutch oven full of water to a boil in about 15 minutes. God bless you, and thank you for these videos of teaching and reviews.
Hi Christa, The metal the adapter grate is made from is jokingly referred to as "Chineseium" , an unknown metallic substance not listed on the manufacturer's engineering prints or bill of materials. Substituting incorrect, cheaper, strange or counterfeit materials into a product is a cultural norm, in the country of manufacture. Pray for the Chinese people that the darkness of their government and culture doesn't overtake them but that the Light shines both upon and from them.
This video was timely! I actually had this same lantern in my shopping cart but hadn't purchased because of reviews mentioning the things you pointed out. I was mulling it over because sometimes a product can have a problem here or there, but this is not one of those. Definitely needs better craftmanship and materials. Thanks for sharing and I agree with you about the quantity and speed for boiling. Well done
Great review! I recently got the Base Camp Kelly Kettle. It uses biomass (twigs) with the water inside a wrap around tank that the flames goes up the middle through. Boils water in 3 mins!
I have this lantern. The wire basket didnt break and the rivet didnt leak. I used paraffin smokeless fuel. I agree 100% with your review. The improvements you suggest would make this a rockstar prepper device. Well done. I subbed. 👍
I have one litre propane lanterns that put off an incredible amount of light and heat and usually have a flat top and have cooked several small meals on them. They are from COLEMAN!!! Old ones or new ones they can be modified or have the ways to sit a small camping kettle on them. Many years experience. and I hate to use the one litre propane canisters... but they are always good, always the same throughout the years. excellent info.
Thank you for the honest review of a product that does NOT do what it's advertised to do. I would have been mad to have spent money on this DUD! The aluminum pot is gross, and who knows what it's 'actually' made of. Thanks again for helping us all to make informed choices!
Thanks for your honest review. My opinion is, this unit looses to much heat through the glass. Great for a light source but not but not a heating device. A great metaphor from this is. Let your light shine and warm the hearts of others. Mathew 5:16 Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works and glorify your Father in heaven. Love your added snippet at the end. You have a warm heart Christa. You a a true ambassador to our Father God, Creator, Friend.
Thank you. Due to my bad experience with hurricanes, about 16 years ago I suggest to my husband to buy a house in a gas community and that I wanted the electric wires are underground. My very smart husband listened to my voice. Thankfully we have had 4 hurricanes and so far so good. I do have a couple of stereo can stove and my barbacue grill has a side stove just in case. :)
Thank you for the review - I picked one of these up cheap at a yard sale and there were no instructions or aluminum utensils with it. I feel much better informed and thank you for giving the gospel - maranatha!
Thank you so much for this review as I was looking at purchasing one of these until I saw this review! I agree with you, someone in the USA take this idea and make it amazing!!
I just think it's awesome to have an informative video with a positive Christian tone, and the scripture at the end...just awesome! Thank you for spreading the word!
.1.. Thank you for your honesty and information. .2.. Don't cook with aluminum pots and pans. It's dangerously not good for you. Use stainless steel or titanium. .3.. Probably those Coleman "pump up" style lanterns that run on white gas would be plenty hot enough to cook on. (I've only used them for coffee water at my camp). Thank you again.
I've found one of the early ones at an auction: well made, but only good for small meal. A fondue pot that uses alcohol works well enough to feeds a family.
Thank you so much for your caveat. Reminds me of the test that shoes a certain flashlight will NOT start a fire to cook by in emergency. You are a blessing to me.
Greetings Christina, let me say I have enjoyed watching your programs. The first program that I came across was your show on water. I love your personality, you are so charming and mindful of what you say and do!. I especially love you are a child of God and let others know this, at the end of your programs you give a short message ( testimony ), please never lose that, it's who you are and part of your charming and bright personality. You are obviously are family orientated, and a strong person with a peaceful nature. I am sure your family and friends are proud. Best wishes Bill
My thoughts: There is a stainless steel "children's play kitchen set" that can be found at Target in the toy section. My children had one that was given to them a few years ago. I believe the brand is Melissa and Doug. Anyhoo, I've been EXTREMELY tempted to use it as its small just like a camping set would be. There is also a stainless steel teas set that the little kettle looks like fun!
I am very glad you did this video. That lantern is a great idea but kerosene does not get super hot, to cook with. I think that lantern would be good for light, but for cooking I would use a Dakota fire hole or the fire box, and be done with it.
Good for you to give an honest review. I first saw this item years ago and thought the concept was brilliant but was concerned that the heat generated would be insufficient to cook anything. The stability of the unit when in use was also a concern. Very top heavy. If it tipped over would the fuel spill out? There are other products on the market that do so much better. And never cook in aluminum. Have often viewed your videos and found them to offer solid advise or instruction. Thank you. K
The old lamps can still be found at yard sales and antique shops around here. I've got my grandma's and the stain is actually coming off of it. The old lamp oil doesn't give off the odor like kerosene.
Sincere thanks for making this high quality video, it shows your absolute level of integrity in all that you share with us all, with that said I stand with the other viewers on supporting North American products for two reasons, better quality and jobs. Nevertheless, your review is well received by me as I benefited from your great presentation. Thank you. God Bless you.
This looked so wonderful, but I’m glad for your honest review !! Hopefully the right people hear about it, just like hearing the word of God !! Thanks for sharing !!
Good review. This is fine for making a cup of tea or heating a can of soup while you use the lantern for what it was designed for, light. This is not a stove. A sad iron heater is expensive but provides light and can be used to cook on.
I am so glad I watched this all the way through. At first when you said China I was not interested, but then I thought, "Why would she mention China?" So thankful for your honest review.
Wow! This is really good to know! I have been exploring and experimenting with different ways to safely cook inside without gas or electricity. I am grateful for this option being reviewed in this video! Thank you!
When my power goes out I use my old Weber kettle charcoal grill outside and cook with my cast iron .or if I want to stay indoors I have a Coleman propane stove I set up on my electric range and cook with. I have a 50 year old ditez lantern I got for Christmas when I was a boy ,years ago and it still works great .cast iron is the way to go for cooking over a open flame.
Hey Christa! You're incredibly gracious in all that...bless you dear! Call it what it is...a piece of JUNK! See, I was decent! :) A couple of years ago I wanted to pick up a kerosene lantern so I bought an old USA made Dietz #8 Air Pilot, refinished it and went from there. If a person was going to try boiling water this way, (that removed from the flame) I would think that you would have to go with a mantle type lantern such as Aladdin. Those types of lanterns produce serious light approaching incandescent levels and subsequently put off a good deal more heat. They also cost a lot more. Then there are the pressurized kerosene lanterns similar in operation to the well-known Coleman gas lanterns. They put off an enormous amount of heat! Just a thought...blessings!
Hi! This is a great review! I do lantern content on my channel, mainly antique kerosene lanterns. I loving seeing more people doing lantern content! So, here’s what’s going on with the Dietz cooker...a little history you may find interesting. Dietz was founded in 1840, by the late 1860s, they introduced the hot blast tubular deign. Through the rest of the 19th century, they were a big player in the tubular lantern market. Through the early 1900s, they would buy out competitors, and by 1953, they bought out their final competition, Embury! By 1957, the market for oil/kerosene lanterns was weak, the main income were city utilities, contractors and that used them for construction sites as warning lanterns. Dietz moves to Hong Kong in 1957 to dominate the east, who still relied on kerosene lighting and in the third world. Dietz kept their Syracuse factory in limited operation up into the 1990s, then they shut down. The sad part of this is they are no where near as well made as they used to be. The idea of a lantern cooker is great, yet as you pointed out, the bracket for the pot is flimsy, also the pop rivet at the handle expands with heat and leaks! I understand they wanted a small lantern to appeal to the hikers and backpacking types, however if they made this model using the Dietz D-Lite, with its 7/8” size wick, it would be more up to boiling water since it generates more heat! Oh well, sadly the mighty Dietz company is only a pale comparison of its former self. The Chinese government has taken over the company due to tax issues. If you want to try a better lantern cooker, look up W.T.Kirkman Lanterns, they’re based in Ramona Ca, and are very helpful and professional. Hope these ramblings were. Helpful! 🙏
Thank You SO much for this honest review!! I'd been looking at getting one, because I really liked the versatility and the idea. Now I won't waste my money 😊😊😊
Oh, you get better and better. This is my first time seeing one of your videos. I live in Scotland, UK - where the damp and the cold can be an issue. First, you told us the ups and the downs with the lantern, demonstrating and talking in a clear and gentle voice. Then you show your love of Jesus and you read a Bible verse! I am subscribing now. God's blessings coming to you from Janine in Scotland.
Thanks for reviewing this product Krista...saved me from adding to my cart as I would have the same concerns with it. Be blessed even as you are such a blessing!
Thank you for the honest review of a chinesium metal item. I think it is a good idea that is poorly executed... If it's not already patented in the US, I hope a good company picks it up, and moves forward to make a quality tool...
Hey everyone. I read several of your post and while we all can see the importance of bringing back Made in the USA, especially during these times. Let's not forget the scope of what Christa is attempting to convey. How to stay alive in dire times by understanding the lessons of the past so we can provide for our families in the future. After Hurricane Katrina I found myself without power for 14 days. I was blessed to not have any major damage to my home. Before the storm I thought 2 days of gas (5 gallons per day) for the generator was more than enough. I was wrong. The scope of the devastation caused me to drive 5 hours to find gas. Because everyone else got it wrong also. It was a sobering thought as to just how dependent we are on electricity alone. What about clean drinking water, refrigeration, and sewer to name a few others. I can tell you that during that time, where the generator was manufactured or if the gas was refined from Saudi oil never crossed my mind. I was thankful to God that my family had a roof over its head and temporary power for well water and refrigeration. Blessings
You nailed the problems quite well. Yet using lanterns as cookers is a good idea. I converted a Dietz Jupiter 2500 into a cooker that has a very rigid design to it. I’ve used it to cook flap jacks, eggs, coffee… love it.
We have 10 Feurhand lanterns. We live off grid. They are awesome. Also own 2 older, but look brand new, Petromax lanterns. All I can say about them is wow. The Mercedes of lanterns
I have several older Dietz lanterns I got for a couple of dollars each at yard sales. I won't even think of cooking with one. A Coleman cook stove works fine, thank you.
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Thanks for your honest and detailed review. I wanted to buy this lamp, but now I understand that it makes no sense. especially since there is a camping gas burner and a gas lamp at home (if the power goes out)
You can still get "Coleman stoves". There is a kit for making them run on kerosene. The simplest version of the kit is just a thing that goes under the generator tube with a wick in it. You put some kerosene in the little cup an light it. After it gets the tube really hot, you can light up the burner. It will cook as much as a gas stove can. It is a lot safer to use. It takes less than a cup of fuel to cook a meal for two.
I have All the Old Dietz from the 50s. I Did not Know they are Now Mic . anyways i have the Older stuff and works great.... What i found is I would use Clean Oil abd not kerosene. If you are using Any Kerosene type burners. Warm them up outside, and Also shut off out side. No fumes When running hot
Thank you for the review. I agree about the pot being stainless steel, which would make it a little bit heavier which means that it would cost more money to ship from China, and it would also cost more to make passing that on to the buyer. It is a nice concept. Hopefully somebody out there watching your video will take it to the next level!
I have two of these lanterns. One is a Dietz (Chinese built) and the other is a knock off (also Chinese but cheaper). Both work fine and only leak if you over fill them. I've burned a variety of fluids in them ranging from Kerosene, Ultra Pure lamp oil, Paint thinner to peanut oil cut 50/50 with Kerosene. For indoor use I've found that Ultra Pure lamp oil is the best. It has zero smell, and the light/ heat output is acceptable. Kerosene has a slight odor after a bit. It burns the brightest and produces the most heat if you're OK with a little smell. I save my worn out socks and use the upper part of the sock as wick material. Just cut it to the width of your lantern and you've got free wicks for life.
This is the second review I've seen and the other one wasn't positive either! But I'm very happy I didn't purchase one of these,but I was close! Thank you for saving me the money! ATB Sam Adler
I have several Dietz lanterns and they are awful to burn inside the house. They just don’t burn hot enough to burn off the fumes. I ended buying a Rayo and an aladdin oil lamp. Overall a good review.
I have been using coleman naptha/unleaded lanterns for over 40 years, take a empty coffee can of sutable size, drill a few holes along the side and put on top of your colrman lamp for cooking! Be careful as with any heat source not to burn your self. Cheers.
Thank you for another great video. Lehman's carries these lanterns and yes they are made in China. I almost bought a couple until I read the reviews that stated they leaked fuel. That made them a fire hazard and that changed my mind. This same company sells a lot of products for people that want to live off the grid. Keep up the great job you do and keep living your dreams. Stay healthy and stay safe and God bless you!
I hear ya...same here. I'm sure you could find some local craftsman, maybe even a UA-camr, that could make you something you could pass down to the next generation.
I've been using a "Dual Fuel" Coleman lantern to pre-heat my tea water. Still won't actually boil it, but I'm sure it kicks out more heat than a kerosene wick. Thanks for the review! (P.S. ... Before the comments get rolling, I know the lantern is made in Witchita, KS but the globe is Chinese. Works VERY well on 100% Premium unleaded gasoline :) Stay safe, my friend ... God Bless you and your's :)
I love your videos! My first thought to increase the heat level is to install some type of Venturi tube to supply more oxygen to the flame near the cooling area. Think of how a rocket stove moves air through its system and creates airflow causing a whistle sound... just a thought and thanks for sharing your funds! ❤️
Hello and blessings. I like your videos very much and they ate very useful. I don't live in US but in a third world country where we won't find most of the things you propose. Could you make videos for us with alternatives of products? Thank you. Good bless.
Production moved first to Hong Kong in 1956 . China production in 1982 , US ownership ended 1992 . Lots of junk lanterns come out of China . But the Deitz brand is actually well made , with direct lineages to the made in New York lanterns . W.T. Kirkman has a premium line , built in same factory , to their specs ,with tooling Kirkman supplied , and premium finishes.. About 75% upcharge over standard , but still not outrageous . W.T. Kirkman also makes some lanterns in California , largely by hand . Now we're looking at multiple 100's of $ . Not USA , but if you can stretch yourself to Western Europe , Feurerhand in Germany still makes one model of kerosene lantern . And their " Cooking Adapter " looks like a better design .
I do keep coffee hot in camp with my lantern while I'm cooking other stuff. Bringing water to a boil takes a lot of energy. Keeping it hot takes much less. Any fuel lantern can keep your cup or tin can of tea or coffee hot after you boil it elsewhere. That's why tea lights are called that.
That little lump of aluminum that is not a bolt or a screw is called a rivet. Also it isn't creosote that builds up in the lamp, its carbon black. Basically just carbon. Love your vids, keep up the great work and stay safe and healthy 🙂
I got a standard mini Dietz while serving in Afghanistan on our early tour in 02, while we were still in a primitive area. I commonly used JP8 /diesel type fuel. I still have it. TBH I never thought of using it as a cooking device. I have one of the 8 wick stoves that operate like this. Thanks for sharing !
in Russia is called kirogaz cooker lantern type from aluminium or cast iron but is for cooking exactly! It really cooks eggs fast if put them not in pot but in big 500ml tiny metal can after use(from canned soup example).
a tip on getting a lantern to burn cleaner. use a sharp pair of scissors and trim your wick with the contour of the base, with a square edge on your wick you will get a lot of smoke from the edges that will blacken the globe. the flame should burn with a nice point and you will not have to clean the globe as often.
I had that exact same lantern and didn't care for it. I got rid of it. Wasn't made very well at all. I think the best thing to cool indoors with is an alcohol stove like a Trangia Stove set or other alcohol stove. They're safe to use in boats and in homes.
Get a finishing nail, hammer and an empty coffee can, poke a hundred + or - holes in the bottom kinda like a stove burner and flip it over the top of the lantern, no flimsy racks deal with and tops to remove plus you can use larger containers. Heats & cooks great, been doing it 50 + yrs.
I never knew this concept I’m with you and agreeing it’s ingenious I hope someone can make it totally happen as you suggested!! Ty for your honest review Blessings sent
They actually do produce good quality products but to get the good stuff it will cost you as much as what you could buy an american made one for. However I don't know how consistently they maintain the good quality, you would think if they are getting a big price for their goods.
Yes the cheap one you would be back to the little handmade rocket stove & breaking in the kindling to continously keep it going, but hey it works & it's a DIY, & free.
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I’ve been living off the grid for several years now. I am also a truck driver. I went through the rounds myself with several of these types of products in the first couple of years. I too tried the dietz 2000 millennial cooking lantern. It’s good for warming up a cup of soup, on a warm day with no wind, but that’s about it. I live in Idaho, the temperature commonly gets well below zero during the winter, so that too is a factor that I must consider. Mine mostly just collects dust on the shelf. I never really have use for it.
For cooking, the most durable, efficient, versatile, and reliable product I have found is a good old fashioned Coleman White gas stove. A newer model 424 or an older 425 would suit your cooking needs well. These have 2 burners. They are lightweight. They will run on regular gasoline out of the pump. I don’t notice any smells at all. I do crack open a window when using them. They fold down into a suitcase size. These can be found at yard sales, thrift stores, or brand new.
If you just want 1 small stove with just one burner, and more compact, then there is a lot of options there too. A model 533 stove would suit your needs well. It too runs on regular gas from the pump, but is much smaller.
As far as lighting goes, I have several lanterns to choose from in my collection. I have a few dietz lanterns, Alladin lanterns, and several old Coleman lanterns. I could go into the pro’s and cons of each. I have found that the old Coleman lanterns are the most reliable and cost effective to operate in the long run.
My personal favorite is the Coleman model 237. Mine was made in 1953, it is a very good product! Parts are still available for it to this day! It is a single mantle lantern that specifically burns Kerosene. It puts out more light than any other lantern that I have. I use it every day. The model 237 kerosene lantern is not easy to find though.
Coleman still makes the model 639C which is a model specifically for burning kerosene. It too is a single mantle lantern. The model 639C is a good option, and I used mine every day before I found my old 237. The 639 can be found on amazon or ebay for around $100 brand new. However, I will say that my old 237 made in 1953 is a much higher quality product than the new 639C. You can find the old 237’s like mine on ebay, but you can expect to pay anywhere from $150-$500 for one.
One thing that this lifestyle has taught me...is that overall product quality is absolutely mandatory. A lot of people make the mistake of buying inferior products because of costs. I too am guilty of this. I’ve learned the hard way that a person is better off saving up their money and buying a good quality product that will last for generations. Older Coleman products are excellent quality.
Great video btw! 😀😀
Thank you for the recommendations. Your expertise makes them invaluable.
I'm a welding inspector and utility inspector and I work on the pipeline a lot. I drive a little Jeep and what I use to heat up my coffee or cook soup is an alcohol stove. It fits in my cup holder. I typically use 91 rubbing alcohol. But like you say anytime you have a heat source you need ventilation. I can tell you when the temperature gets below freezing even the alcohol stove is not going to warm up your vehicle. You can warm your hands over it and it does make it a little more bearable. But I would never try to use my Lantern as a primary cooking device. They are great if you're going to have a lantern anyway, and it's a good way to avoid making another fire. They are good for heating up coffee you already have or making cocoa. But I can tell you the first thing you need to do is give those little pots and pans a way to some little kids to play with. You're better off getting one of those cheap Cub Scout cooking sets at Walmart for 6 bucks. or getting a $5 stainless steel metal cup in the same Department.
Curtis Frew...Hello! I was wondering where could I find the newer model Coleman white gas stove, model 424, and what gasoline if preferred, can 10% ethanol be used, or must it be 100% gas. Appreciated ur info and hope to hear from u on my questions! Thank u
Old is good !
In the 70s I had a coleman stove for camping. It used to scare me. When I set it up after storage. When u start it. it would have a flame pop where the section meet to gether from the tank. Scary. Once it was lite it was ok. That fire pop spoke me so made my husband light it. Eventually w my moves I finally got rid of it.
Excellent review, I remember 40 years ago... lol... I learned in boy scouts that a metal coffee can would fit over the Coleman type lanterns. If you trimmed it in half and took a pointed can opener to punch holes at top, you had a great hot plate to cook on. And it would boil water very quickly.
Good to know! Thank you!
30 years ago in my Scout days we used the Coleman Peak1 white gas stoves and they packed neatly insidse a #10 coffee can which, with custom coat hanger bail, was the main cooking pot/ water bucket.
I love the way you manage to have a positive attitude even while the product is disappointing you. Although not for use inside the home, have you ever heard of, or used a Kelly Kettle. It can be cooked on in several ways, and provides a LOT of hot water. It does not, however, furnish light.
Thank you for all your efforts in providing us great information, advice, and uplifting messages.
David
I was looking up reviews for this lantern, came across this video, and your comment. I looked up a kelly kettle, and this channel just uploaded a video on it yesterday. Go figure.
The Kelly Kettle is an absolutely excellent approach... so is a product called the Solo Stove... but work outside the house...
These type laterns are very nostalgic. I have one around just for decoration. Got a home made alcohol stove for power outage and such. Thank you, I agree if quality made ln USA would be better and very handy.
I greatly appreciate your videos. Im trying to prepare and Im doing it despite the ridicule of family and friends. I appreciate watching your calm presentations. They are interesting, reassuring and valued.
Rivet. Where the water was leaking through...it's a rivet. Was probably better quality when owned and made in America.
The ones I have are spot welded. Which means no holes and no leaks.
There’s a fellow named Woody Kirkman, in Ramona, CA (my hometown). He’s been fascinated with Dietz Lanterns since he was a kid. Its been a good many years now, but Woody collected these lanterns. He collected and traded so many that it became an e-bay sort of business for him. He also repaired for people.
Woody gained a couple of patents and I believe, formed some sort of business arrangement with Dietz.
You could google his name to fill in the blanks in my story.
Looks like your better off with a soda can and a tea light ......thank you for the review ...great job 😊
Soda cans have a plastic liner in them and cooking in them would become toxic quickly.
Thank you for your intelligent honest review. I don't buy Chinese nor cook with aluminum. So happy I watched this!!! God bless you and please keep the videos coming.
I really appreciate your review. It amazes me that so many manufacturers turn to China for production since they can get a larger profit from sales. But, I'm finding that too many products are made so poorly, in order to be affordable, that I can't help but wonder if the gains are really there; over making things in the U.S.A. Thank you for sharing your feedback. I hope some U.S. entrepreneur runs with your suggestions and makes a better product.
You're so nice and pleasant reviewing a piece of junk. God shines through you!
Well done! I've had mine for several years. It provides light just fine. Oh, goody, it melts butter, warms baby food, syrup, and cheese dip, scrambles an egg. But you are so right. It's not going to get you a decent cup of coffee or tea. Bummer.
BTW, your intro is always a delight. Just a reminder, in case you haven't been complimented lately.
Thank you, I have an older model that was made in The USA. A little red one. No cook top though. Great ending. Love the Bible verses.
I think I’ll stick with a Sterno stove in a pinch.
Can u link it please my daughter is trying to learn about survival skills
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Well done Sister! Thank you for sharing God's Holy Word...
I just ordered this lantern and I’m amazed that god brought your channel into my life and I do consider myself quite a inventive individual,I will look at this product and try to improve on it as a promise to your challenge. I too use my love of camping as a survivalist teaching.
Thanks for the video, this is why we need to make everything in U.S.A., and become self sufficient again!!!!!!!!
Christa, just assemble a simple rocket stove. The cost will be about $10, and assembly time is about 10 minutes. It will heat a large cast iron dutch oven full of water to a boil in about 15 minutes. God bless you, and thank you for these videos of teaching and reviews.
Hi Christa,
The metal the adapter grate is made from is jokingly referred to as "Chineseium" , an unknown metallic substance not listed on the manufacturer's engineering prints or bill of materials. Substituting incorrect, cheaper, strange or counterfeit materials into a product is a cultural norm, in the country of manufacture. Pray for the Chinese people that the darkness of their government and culture doesn't overtake them but that the Light shines both upon and from them.
Chineseium ! Love it !
Never heard that before
This video was timely! I actually had this same lantern in my shopping cart but hadn't purchased because of reviews mentioning the things you pointed out. I was mulling it over because sometimes a product can have a problem here or there, but this is not one of those. Definitely needs better craftmanship and materials. Thanks for sharing and I agree with you about the quantity and speed for boiling. Well done
Me too! So glad I saw this prior to adding it (untested) to my collection!!
Great review! I recently got the Base Camp Kelly Kettle. It uses biomass (twigs) with the water inside a wrap around tank that the flames goes up the middle through. Boils water in 3 mins!
Very cool! We have an episode on the Kelly Kettle and absolutely love it!
K heater/cookers have been around for 150 years. Doing a little research will show the wide variety available. Love your videos. Keep bringing more.
I bought one of these about 20 years ago. So glad I’m not the only one who found it less than satisfactory.
I have this lantern. The wire basket didnt break and the rivet didnt leak. I used paraffin smokeless fuel. I agree 100% with your review. The improvements you suggest would make this a rockstar prepper device. Well done. I subbed. 👍
Hi Christa, I always enjoy your video's, your are such a kind soul.
I have one litre propane lanterns that put off an incredible amount of light and heat and usually have a flat top and have cooked several small meals on them. They are from COLEMAN!!! Old ones or new ones they can be modified or have the ways to sit a small camping kettle on them. Many years experience. and I hate to use the one litre propane canisters... but they are always good, always the same throughout the years.
excellent info.
I recommend Feuerhand. It's the same type of lantern. It´s made in Germany.
Good review! It’s just as important why you shouldn’t purchase a product as it is important why you should purchase a product.
Thank you for the honest review of a product that does NOT do what it's advertised to do. I would have been mad to have spent money on this DUD! The aluminum pot is gross, and who knows what it's 'actually' made of. Thanks again for helping us all to make informed choices!
Thanks for your honest review.
My opinion is, this unit looses to much heat through the glass. Great for a light source but not but not a heating device.
A great metaphor from this is. Let your light shine and warm the hearts of others.
Mathew 5:16 Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works and glorify your Father in heaven.
Love your added snippet at the end. You have a warm heart Christa. You a a true ambassador to our Father God, Creator, Friend.
Thank you. Due to my bad experience with hurricanes, about 16 years ago I suggest to my husband to buy a house in a gas community and that I wanted the electric wires are underground. My very smart husband listened to my voice. Thankfully we have had 4 hurricanes and so far so good. I do have a couple of stereo can stove and my barbacue grill has a side stove just in case. :)
Thank you for the review - I picked one of these up cheap at a yard sale and there were no instructions or aluminum utensils with it. I feel much better informed and thank you for giving the gospel - maranatha!
Yes! Maranatha!
Thank you so much for this review as I was looking at purchasing one of these until I saw this review! I agree with you, someone in the USA take this idea and make it amazing!!
I just think it's awesome to have an informative video with a positive Christian tone, and the scripture at the end...just awesome! Thank you for spreading the word!
.1.. Thank you for your honesty and information.
.2.. Don't cook with aluminum pots and pans. It's dangerously not good for you. Use stainless steel or titanium.
.3.. Probably those Coleman "pump up" style lanterns that run on white gas would be plenty hot enough to cook on. (I've only used them for coffee water at my camp).
Thank you again.
I've found one of the early ones at an auction: well made, but only good for small meal. A fondue pot that uses alcohol works well enough to feeds a family.
A fondue pot! Excellent idea! These can often be found at thrift stores/yard sales, etc
Thank you so much for your caveat. Reminds me of the test that shoes a certain flashlight will NOT start a fire to cook by in emergency. You are a blessing to me.
Greetings Christina, let me say I have enjoyed watching your programs. The first program that I came across was your show on water. I love your personality, you are so charming and mindful of what you say and do!. I especially love you are a child of God and let others know this, at the end of your programs you give a short message ( testimony ), please never lose that, it's who you are and part of your charming and bright personality. You are obviously are family orientated, and a strong person with a peaceful nature. I am sure your family and friends are proud. Best wishes Bill
I love her! She told the truth. That to me is the only thing that matters. Even though she loves the idea, because it’s a great concept.
My thoughts:
There is a stainless steel "children's play kitchen set" that can be found at Target in the toy section. My children had one that was given to them a few years ago. I believe the brand is Melissa and Doug. Anyhoo, I've been EXTREMELY tempted to use it as its small just like a camping set would be. There is also a stainless steel teas set that the little kettle looks like fun!
Stainless steel mess kit $6.90 at Wally World. Has a little pot with handle and lid. A small frying pan. A plate.
Food grade and no leaks.
And IKEA too, they're stainless steel
I am very glad you did this video. That lantern is a great idea but kerosene does not get super hot, to cook with. I think that lantern would be good for light, but for cooking I would use a Dakota fire hole or the fire box, and be done with it.
Good for you to give an honest review. I first saw this item years ago and thought the concept was brilliant but was concerned that the heat generated would be insufficient to cook anything. The stability of the unit when in use was also a concern. Very top heavy. If it tipped over would the fuel spill out? There are other products on the market that do so much better. And never cook in aluminum. Have often viewed your videos and found them to offer solid advise or instruction. Thank you. K
You bless me so! And you continue to bless this world, too. Thanks for all your videos!
The old lamps can still be found at yard sales and antique shops around here. I've got my grandma's and the stain is actually coming off of it. The old lamp oil doesn't give off the odor like kerosene.
Sincere thanks for making this high quality video, it shows your absolute level of integrity in all that you share with us all, with that said I stand with the other viewers on supporting North American products for two reasons, better quality and jobs. Nevertheless, your review is well received by me as I benefited from your great presentation. Thank you. God Bless you.
This looked so wonderful, but I’m glad for your honest review !! Hopefully the right people hear about it, just like hearing the word of God !! Thanks for sharing !!
Hi from Northwestern Louisiana. Thx for your informative life giving videos with the awesome endings with the Word of God ✝️
Said it before and will say it again so smart and beautiful.
Good review. This is fine for making a cup of tea or heating a can of soup while you use the lantern for what it was designed for, light. This is not a stove. A sad iron heater is expensive but provides light and can be used to cook on.
I am so glad I watched this all the way through. At first when you said China I was not interested, but then I thought, "Why would she mention China?" So thankful for your honest review.
Wow! This is really good to know! I have been exploring and experimenting with different ways to safely cook inside without gas or electricity. I am grateful for this option being reviewed in this video! Thank you!
When my power goes out I use my old Weber kettle charcoal grill outside and cook with my cast iron .or if I want to stay indoors I have a Coleman propane stove I set up on my electric range and cook with. I have a 50 year old ditez lantern I got for Christmas when I was a boy ,years ago and it still works great .cast iron is the way to go for cooking over a open flame.
Hey Christa! You're incredibly gracious in all that...bless you dear! Call it what it is...a piece of JUNK! See, I was decent! :)
A couple of years ago I wanted to pick up a kerosene lantern so I bought an old USA made Dietz #8 Air Pilot, refinished it and went from there. If a person was going to try boiling water this way, (that removed from the flame) I would think that you would have to go with a mantle type lantern such as Aladdin. Those types of lanterns produce serious light approaching incandescent levels and subsequently put off a good deal more heat. They also cost a lot more. Then there are the pressurized kerosene lanterns similar in operation to the well-known Coleman gas lanterns. They put off an enormous amount of heat! Just a thought...blessings!
i love the idea behind this latern like you do. using heat and light together is almost a clever thing to do ...
Hi! This is a great review!
I do lantern content on my channel, mainly antique kerosene lanterns. I loving seeing more people doing lantern content!
So, here’s what’s going on with the Dietz cooker...a little history you may find interesting. Dietz was founded in 1840, by the late 1860s, they introduced the hot blast tubular deign. Through the rest of the 19th century, they were a big player in the tubular lantern market. Through the early 1900s, they would buy out competitors, and by 1953, they bought out their final competition, Embury! By 1957, the market for oil/kerosene lanterns was weak, the main income were city utilities, contractors and that used them for construction sites as warning lanterns. Dietz moves to Hong Kong in 1957 to dominate the east, who still relied on kerosene lighting and in the third world. Dietz kept their Syracuse factory in limited operation up into the 1990s, then they shut down.
The sad part of this is they are no where near as well made as they used to be. The idea of a lantern cooker is great, yet as you pointed out, the bracket for the pot is flimsy, also the pop rivet at the handle expands with heat and leaks! I understand they wanted a small lantern to appeal to the hikers and backpacking types, however if they made this model using the Dietz D-Lite, with its 7/8” size wick, it would be more up to boiling water since it generates more heat!
Oh well, sadly the mighty Dietz company is only a pale comparison of its former self. The Chinese government has taken over the company due to tax issues. If you want to try a better lantern cooker, look up W.T.Kirkman Lanterns, they’re based in Ramona Ca, and are very helpful and professional.
Hope these ramblings were. Helpful! 🙏
Thank You SO much for this honest review!! I'd been looking at getting one, because I really liked the versatility and the idea. Now I won't waste my money 😊😊😊
Oh, you get better and better. This is my first time seeing one of your videos. I live in Scotland, UK - where the damp and the cold can be an issue. First, you told us the ups and the downs with the lantern, demonstrating and talking in a clear and gentle voice. Then you show your love of Jesus and you read a Bible verse!
I am subscribing now. God's blessings coming to you from Janine in Scotland.
Thanks for reviewing this product Krista...saved me from adding to my cart as I would have the same concerns with it. Be blessed even as you are such a blessing!
So much for that. You couldn't pay me to own one.
Thank you for all your wisdom that you share with us. God Bless you.
Love the concept. I am always looking for alternative ways to cook food, provide heat and light. Love your message right at the end too!
Thank you sissy for all you do. Blessings to you
Thank you for the honest review of a chinesium metal item. I think it is a good idea that is poorly executed... If it's not already patented in the US, I hope a good company picks it up, and moves forward to make a quality tool...
Hey everyone. I read several of your post and while we all can see the importance of bringing back Made in the USA, especially during these times. Let's not forget the scope of what Christa is attempting to convey. How to stay alive in dire times by understanding the lessons of the past so we can provide for our families in the future. After Hurricane Katrina I found myself without power for 14 days. I was blessed to not have any major damage to my home. Before the storm I thought 2 days of gas (5 gallons per day) for the generator was more than enough. I was wrong. The scope of the devastation caused me to drive 5 hours to find gas. Because everyone else got it wrong also. It was a sobering thought as to just how dependent we are on electricity alone. What about clean drinking water, refrigeration, and sewer to name a few others. I can tell you that during that time, where the generator was manufactured or if the gas was refined from Saudi oil never crossed my mind. I was thankful to God that my family had a roof over its head and temporary power for well water and refrigeration.
Blessings
You nailed the problems quite well. Yet using lanterns as cookers is a good idea. I converted a Dietz Jupiter 2500 into a cooker that has a very rigid design to it. I’ve used it to cook flap jacks, eggs, coffee… love it.
So very thankful every time I see you have a new video! I always learn something... Thank you 🙏
We have 10 Feurhand lanterns. We live off grid. They are awesome.
Also own 2 older, but look brand new, Petromax lanterns. All I can say about them is wow. The Mercedes of lanterns
I have several older Dietz lanterns I got for a couple of dollars each at yard sales. I won't even think of cooking with one. A Coleman cook stove works fine, thank you.
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Thanks for your honest and detailed review. I wanted to buy this lamp, but now I understand that it makes no sense. especially since there is a camping gas burner and a gas lamp at home (if the power goes out)
You can still get "Coleman stoves". There is a kit for making them run on kerosene. The simplest version of the kit is just a thing that goes under the generator tube with a wick in it. You put some kerosene in the little cup an light it. After it gets the tube really hot, you can light up the burner. It will cook as much as a gas stove can. It is a lot safer to use. It takes less than a cup of fuel to cook a meal for two.
I have All the Old Dietz from the 50s. I Did not Know they are Now Mic
. anyways i have the Older stuff and works great.... What i found is I would use Clean Oil abd not kerosene. If you are using Any Kerosene type burners. Warm them up outside, and Also shut off out side. No fumes When running hot
Hi Angel girl. I love your videos ❤️. God bless you and your family.
The metal that the rack is made of is a particular alloy known as “Chinesium”
Thank you for the review. I agree about the pot being stainless steel, which would make it a little bit heavier which means that it would cost more money to ship from China, and it would also cost more to make passing that on to the buyer. It is a nice concept. Hopefully somebody out there watching your video will take it to the next level!
China made. I vow to buy only made in USA now. The reviews on Amazon say it consistently leaks at the bottom.
Dave Todd
That does not sound so good.
Dietz sucks now. Get a German made Feurhand. No leaks.
Now we know how evil Amazon is. Taking free speech away.
@@hymefly I'm old enough to remember when "Made in Japan" indicated poor quality. Today everything made anywhere is of poor quality.
I did want one but not now.
I have two of these lanterns. One is a Dietz (Chinese built) and the other is a knock off (also Chinese but cheaper). Both work fine and only leak if you over fill them. I've burned a variety of fluids in them ranging from Kerosene, Ultra Pure lamp oil, Paint thinner to peanut oil cut 50/50 with Kerosene. For indoor use I've found that Ultra Pure lamp oil is the best. It has zero smell, and the light/ heat output is acceptable. Kerosene has a slight odor after a bit. It burns the brightest and produces the most heat if you're OK with a little smell. I save my worn out socks and use the upper part of the sock as wick material. Just cut it to the width of your lantern and you've got free wicks for life.
This is the second review I've seen and the other one wasn't positive either! But I'm very happy I didn't purchase one of these,but I was close!
Thank you for saving me the money! ATB Sam Adler
I have several Dietz lanterns and they are awful to burn inside the house. They just don’t burn hot enough to burn off the fumes. I ended buying a Rayo and an aladdin oil lamp. Overall a good review.
I have been using coleman naptha/unleaded lanterns for over 40 years, take a empty coffee can of sutable size, drill a few holes along the side and put on top of your colrman lamp for cooking! Be careful as with any heat source not to burn your self. Cheers.
I recommend keeping one of those lanterns in your car with a can of fuel (not paraffin based cold weather it gets hard)
Thank you for another great video. Lehman's carries these lanterns and yes they are made in China. I almost bought a couple until I read the reviews that stated they leaked fuel. That made them a fire hazard and that changed my mind. This same company sells a lot of products for people that want to live off the grid. Keep up the great job you do and keep living your dreams. Stay healthy and stay safe and God bless you!
Same experience
"Made in China" ya lost me right there lol I'll look for a locally made device though seems like a great idea. God bless, love ya videos.
Absolutely
You are very fortunate to be able to afford to buy american, that's great. 👍
Forget it, Made in china. No way!
@@stardustxx278 Made in China, but sold at an American price. This is just under 90 bucks.
I hear ya...same here. I'm sure you could find some local craftsman, maybe even a UA-camr, that could make you something you could pass down to the next generation.
I would never buy this thing, but its a great idea. Listening to you is comforting! Thank you for your positivity! Big hugs :)
I've been using a "Dual Fuel" Coleman lantern to pre-heat my tea water. Still won't actually boil it, but I'm sure it kicks out more heat than a kerosene wick. Thanks for the review! (P.S. ... Before the comments get rolling, I know the lantern is made in Witchita, KS but the globe is Chinese. Works VERY well on 100% Premium unleaded gasoline :) Stay safe, my friend ... God Bless you and your's :)
I love your videos! My first thought to increase the heat level is to install some type of Venturi tube to supply more oxygen to the flame near the cooling area. Think of how a rocket stove moves air through its system and creates airflow causing a whistle sound... just a thought and thanks for sharing your funds! ❤️
Great review and interesting idea. However, I'd just stick with a Coleman camp stove for cooking and lantern for light. Plus, still made in America.
Hello and blessings. I like your videos very much and they ate very useful. I don't live in US but in a third world country where we won't find most of the things you propose. Could you make videos for us with alternatives of products? Thank you. Good bless.
Production moved first to Hong Kong in 1956 . China production in 1982 , US ownership ended 1992 .
Lots of junk lanterns come out of China . But the Deitz brand is actually well made , with direct lineages to the made in New York lanterns .
W.T. Kirkman has a premium line , built in same factory , to their specs ,with tooling Kirkman supplied , and premium finishes.. About 75% upcharge over standard , but still not outrageous .
W.T. Kirkman also makes some lanterns in California , largely by hand . Now we're looking at multiple 100's of $ .
Not USA , but if you can stretch yourself to Western Europe , Feurerhand in Germany still makes one model of kerosene lantern . And their " Cooking Adapter " looks like a better design .
I do keep coffee hot in camp with my lantern while I'm cooking other stuff. Bringing water to a boil takes a lot of energy. Keeping it hot takes much less.
Any fuel lantern can keep your cup or tin can of tea or coffee hot after you boil it elsewhere. That's why tea lights are called that.
That little lump of aluminum that is not a bolt or a screw is called a rivet. Also it isn't creosote that builds up in the lamp, its carbon black. Basically just carbon. Love your vids, keep up the great work and stay safe and healthy 🙂
I got a standard mini Dietz while serving in Afghanistan on our early tour in 02, while we were still in a primitive area. I commonly used JP8 /diesel type fuel. I still have it. TBH I never thought of using it as a cooking device. I have one of the 8 wick stoves that operate like this. Thanks for sharing !
in Russia is called kirogaz cooker lantern type from aluminium or cast iron but is for cooking exactly! It really cooks eggs fast if put them not in pot but in big 500ml tiny metal can after use(from canned soup example).
a tip on getting a lantern to burn cleaner. use a sharp pair of scissors and trim your wick with the contour of the base, with a square edge on your wick you will get a lot of smoke from the edges that will blacken the globe. the flame should burn with a nice point and you will not have to clean the globe as often.
I had that exact same lantern and didn't care for it. I got rid of it. Wasn't made very well at all.
I think the best thing to cool indoors with is an alcohol stove like a Trangia Stove set or other alcohol stove. They're safe to use in boats and in homes.
Ordered one, it will be a backup to my backup, like they say one is none, two is one.
This is why i Love my Coleman 1 Burner stove. Multi Fuel... 40 bucks, and lasts about 3 to5 days of cooking on 1 cup of fuel.
Get a finishing nail, hammer and an empty coffee can, poke a hundred + or - holes in the bottom kinda like a stove burner and flip it over the top of the lantern, no flimsy racks deal with and tops to remove plus you can use larger containers. Heats & cooks great, been doing it 50 + yrs.
I never knew this concept
I’m with you and agreeing it’s ingenious
I hope someone can make it totally happen as you suggested!!
Ty for your honest review
Blessings sent
Ah , the joys of high quality Chinese goods. 🤓🤓🤓
They actually do produce good quality products but to get the good stuff it will cost you as much as what you could buy an american made one for. However I don't know how consistently they maintain the good quality, you would think if they are getting a big price for their goods.
Yes the cheap one you would be back to the little handmade rocket stove & breaking in the kindling to continously keep it going, but hey it works & it's a DIY, & free.
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You saved me $48. I will stick with my Coleman propane and white gas lanterns and stoves.