My Dad bought one too! Didn't know what to do with it and I got it. I used it with a black and white Hitachi TV. I really like that new Pi I may get one.
I too bought the TS1000! Took it with me while on a Med cruise during the early 80's when I was in the US Navy. I was stationed onboard the USS Saratoga CV60 at that time. I taught myself programming (in Basic) between watches and then graduated to operating systems (CPM, IBM DOS and MSDOS). Because of that little computer, I wound up becoming my ship's go to guy for anything computer related. Remember this was in the early 80's and there weren't many people who had any experience with desktop computers at that time. At one point during another Med Cruise, I was flown to several ships in our battle group to train others how to use and implement their computers. My last duty station was the USS Aubrey R. Fitch FFG34 where I was assigned as the Assistant ADP Officer and the SNAP-II Computer Operator. That little computer led me into a career in Information Technology after I retired from the Navy.
haha yeah same - I already have a pi4, zero, snes mini, playstation mini and a mister all of which I barely ever use but my past self looks at these devices that I would have killed for back in the day and says are you crazy get that thing
Got a few Pis but still got the kit because your right that book is very good for beginners and experienced users. The thermals in this thing are great too, Pi foundation did a great job, it also reminds me of my ATARI 600XL and 130XE days..... I also had a ZX81 and VIC20 :)
I use opened source programs now so much, I found GIMP when I was in Grad school and still use it as a free version of Photoshop, and find it works just as well! Also I love this product, I don't need it after just building a PC but I want to get one just to have it!
Lovely! I had an Acorn Atom. What amazed me was the fact that I could combine Basic and assembler in a single program. The only way to store a program was on a tape deck. I had to save at a specific volume level, and restore(load) at a different volume level. I'm glad those days are behind me.
Very nice layout for newcomers and veterans alike. Got a pi 4 already but nice to see a prebuilt system ain't suffering the thermal issues early adopters had to weather. Love the book overview also.
Yeah, the Pi Foundation seems to have learned a good lesson from the disaster of the original "official" Pi 4 case, which most reviewers pointed out, would significantly limit performance on compute-intensive tasks due to throttling.
The book reminds me of the massive book that came with the Commodore VIC-20 back in the stone ages when I was a kid. I am a programmer and book is how I got started.
Microcenter has the Pi 4 4GB desktop kit for essentially the same price ($99.99). With that you get 7 available USB ports (3 on the keyboard and 4 on the Pi) plus an audio jack compared to only 3 available USB ports on the 400 and no audio jack. Plus in the desktop kit you get 2 micro hdmi cables compared to only 1 with the 400. And yes the cpu is a bit faster with the 400. So basically with the 400 you’re paying for the novelty of the form factor.
Very informative, bought one ofr my 11 year old son as his first steps into computing. Kinda funny how in the 21st century, his first steps mirror mine (ZX Spectrum 48k) from waaay back in the 80s
I’m new to pi and I’m considering buying a 400. I plan to use this as a basic desktop. And explore its other functions. It seems a lot of videos out there are pains are you have the pie but then you need a PC to download stuff onto her a card is this the case?
Do you know if you can connect a video camera to maybe the 3.0 usb port? I am thinking I could use this as an alternative kids computer, but want to know your opinion on adding a camera
Yep, here in the UK I learnt how to use computers originally with the ZX81. 1k of memory expandable by ribbon cable to 16k. Horrible keyboard but I bought an alternative keyboard that worked much better. Eventually upgraded to a Sinclair Spectrum which was more expensive than this Pi 400 at £100+
Completely new to Pis and have several questions referring to how they handle storage. 1) is the SD card strictly for the OS? Or can it also store my files/data along with the OS? -and/or- 2). Is the storage of my files only on external USB HDD/SSDs?
I like to think of my Pis as single-use devices. For instance, I've used a Pi for Pihole, they make great retro-gaming devices, and I've used my Pis for writing machines. If I need to sit down and seriously write, I pull out my Pi. I write using markdown, so any text editor works. Or, another tool I use is an app called WordGrinder. It's like an archaic word processor from the 80s, but it's modern. It exports openoffice format files and markdown. It's surprisingly powerful, especially on a RasPi. I think this new format is tailor-made for long writing projects. But I wouldn't be surprised to find somebody taking the guts from this and adding it to an empty laptop shell. That should be cool. :-)
Stellar review, informative & detailed. Thinking of switching to Pi OS, been using an old Macbook with iMovie for editing surf & snowboard videos, nothing serious, mostly my surf crew and just 1080/60 & definitely not 4K. Can I use the Pi 400 to edit videos like the Macbook with iMovie?
Awesome...Love this for schools..very economical...not every kid needs a $350 ipad that is easily broken or stolen. Thanks for bringing this to our attention!
just preordered 2. i want em so bad :) reminds me of my ole c64. i had a zx81 i learned 8080 on. but no other pc used 8080 :/ ah well. i learned 6502 then x86 with the hercules graphics card. theeeeen i gotta amiga500. a teeny bit of 68000 but mostly c, then c++. wrote my text editor in 6502 on the c64. then c on msdos and amiga500. then c++ on amiga and mac classic. then windows. right now i'm almost done getting it to work on linux with qt. anyways, this thing takes me back :)
Seems to be something a school could give each kid to be their own and use in each class as well as being home to do homework. Easy cheaper than iPads that a lot of these schools share with each student. Or even require parents to buy/rent.
I've bought the keyboard and mouse and the 4B port keeps stalling, plugging and unplugging doesnt help.. So dubious as to whether this will be better. Using a logitech wireless keyboard now with dingle and bluetooth mouse. no stalling.
After Lon's video on the Raspberry Pi 4 I got one to play with, but I made the mistake of using NOOBs instead of Raspian Buster... and after several frustrating hours over a few days I put it on the shelf and forgot about it. I wish the Beginner's Guide had been available when the Pi 4 came out, but apart from where to plug things in, it seems like the guide is as much for the 4 as the 400, so at some point I'll start over with the real OS.
Better keyboard and more ports than many apple products. Things that make ya go “hmmm.” 😂 4:05 I thought the gigabit bottleneck was only an issue with the Pi 3 series, since now it’s connected to the USB 3.0 controller 4:51 There’s a software switch to enable 60fps output at 4K, but your monitor/tv and even your hdmi cable has to be capable of it (has to support some version of the hdmi spec). I don’t think it will work with two 4K displays, though. Not sure. 8:28 Oh, bless. 😍
The regular Raspberry Pi 4B which uses 4 GB of RAM and Raspberry Pi 400 uses the same 4B 4 GB board but the Pi 400 is made into to a long narrow board to fit the keyboard. the 8 GB version of the Pi 4B does video better so it seems to be a insufficient ram issue. I wish they made the Pi 400 with 8 GB as well. it is also 300 MHz faster at 1.8 GHz vs the 1.5. the heatsink in the Pi 400 will allow for up to about 2 GHz overclock. beyond that and it might get throttling issues. I don't have either but that is what I have found out. I think I could make some modifications to the Pi 400 to allow for better cooling and maybe a 2.2 GHz overclock like Pi 4B with the Ice Cube cooler, particularly the tall version which cools a little better the the lower height one. my idea would make it a bit heavier and less attractive but mods and maker builds and experimentation is what these types of systems are all about.
from my experience the memory cards suck and randomly die. Is there room and the means to throw an SSD inside the keyboard case? Or do you have to run an external one?
Hi Lon, As you said in the video the Pi400 is a great computer for children. As someone who plays an active role in their local school how do you feel about "GIMP" program name and its fork to the name "Glimpse"? It may be a cultural thing but the name has always been a bit weird for me. Especially in the context of a computer for children.
@@russellbennett6609 I just looked and it says There are no resellers for the product model that match your selected criteria.. US Keyboard, and "Rest Of the World" selected. I don't see USA on the drop down.
Hi Lon the rasberry pi 400 key board is nice you could hook up to your pc and your laptop right Lon everyone should get this one right Lon your awesome Lon and keep up the good work ☺and stay safe Lon your rock 🎸Lon
Advise anyone looking to pick this up look for lighter weight programs. Instead of kibr office, abiword Instead of chromium look into lighter weight growsers, And so on. I do not need this. I WANT one though. I also want to pick one up for my niece.
It is true that there are alternatives to the pre-installed applications that some may prefer. But the ones chosen by the Raspberry OS people are actually pretty efficient these days, and 4 GB of RAM goes a lot further here than someone used to Windows 10 would expect. Loading programs from an SD card is a lot slower than a spinning rust drive, even worse compared to a real SSD. But as a more advanced project, it is already possible to plug a fast mass storage device into one of the USB3 ports and run from there, and I expect this will get a lot easier by next year sometime.
That Timex Sinclair on my shelf was my very first computer! My Dad bought it back in 1980/1981.
Me too, we have come along way in 40 years!
Same for me - in the UK it was the Sinclair ZX81. Whole 1k of ram or 16kb with the terrible add-on that kept falling off!
My Dad bought one too! Didn't know what to do with it and I got it. I used it with a black and white Hitachi TV. I really like that new Pi I may get one.
I too bought the TS1000! Took it with me while on a Med cruise during the early 80's when I was in the US Navy. I was stationed onboard the USS Saratoga CV60 at that time. I taught myself programming (in Basic) between watches and then graduated to operating systems (CPM, IBM DOS and MSDOS). Because of that little computer, I wound up becoming my ship's go to guy for anything computer related. Remember this was in the early 80's and there weren't many people who had any experience with desktop computers at that time. At one point during another Med Cruise, I was flown to several ships in our battle group to train others how to use and implement their computers. My last duty station was the USS Aubrey R. Fitch FFG34 where I was assigned as the Assistant ADP Officer and the SNAP-II Computer Operator. That little computer led me into a career in Information Technology after I retired from the Navy.
Mine was an Commodore 64 followed by an A500, the game I remember the most is Shufflepuck Cafe, oddly enough I haven't played it in over 20 years.
I don’t need one but I want one!
My feelings exactly. 😂 Glad to see I'm not the only one!
haha yeah same - I already have a pi4, zero, snes mini, playstation mini and a mister all of which I barely ever use but my past self looks at these devices that I would have killed for back in the day and says are you crazy get that thing
@@MartinPaoloni same here. I have already taken a step forward and pre-ordered mine:)
Why my internet was down? Ohhh, the pihole at the keyboard server was turned off” :p
Me too 😬
Got a few Pis but still got the kit because your right that book is very good for beginners and experienced users. The thermals in this thing are great too, Pi foundation did a great job, it also reminds me of my ATARI 600XL and 130XE days..... I also had a ZX81 and VIC20 :)
I use opened source programs now so much, I found GIMP when I was in Grad school and still use it as a free version of Photoshop, and find it works just as well! Also I love this product, I don't need it after just building a PC but I want to get one just to have it!
Lovely! I had an Acorn Atom. What amazed me was the fact that I could combine Basic and assembler in a single program. The only way to store a program was on a tape deck. I had to save at a specific volume level, and restore(load) at a different volume level. I'm glad those days are behind me.
Hi Lon: Another great review as always. The Pi has come a long way over the years.
I have 3 Raspberry Pi variants that I don’t really use but I still want this!
Very nice layout for newcomers and veterans alike. Got a pi 4 already but nice to see a prebuilt system ain't suffering the thermal issues early adopters had to weather. Love the book overview also.
Yeah, the Pi Foundation seems to have learned a good lesson from the disaster of the original "official" Pi 4 case, which most reviewers pointed out, would significantly limit performance on compute-intensive tasks due to throttling.
The book reminds me of the massive book that came with the Commodore VIC-20 back in the stone ages when I was a kid. I am a programmer and book is how I got started.
Just ordered one today, I used a raspberry pi throughout high school, found the 400 looking for cheap linux machines, it was love at first sight lol
Nice review! You’re the first reviewer I saw showing off the book and Scratch!
From the thumbnail preview I thought that it finally comes with a keyboard... And the book is awesome addition!
Great bit of kit. Love the book, I miss big, fat manuals .
Excellent review! You answered all I wanted to know about the Raspberry Pi 400. Big THANK YOU!
Microcenter has the Pi 4 4GB desktop kit for essentially the same price ($99.99). With that you get 7 available USB ports (3 on the keyboard and 4 on the Pi) plus an audio jack compared to only 3 available USB ports on the 400 and no audio jack. Plus in the desktop kit you get 2 micro hdmi cables compared to only 1 with the 400. And yes the cpu is a bit faster with the 400. So basically with the 400 you’re paying for the novelty of the form factor.
Very informative, bought one ofr my 11 year old son as his first steps into computing. Kinda funny how in the 21st century, his first steps mirror mine (ZX Spectrum 48k) from waaay back in the 80s
Very well put together video my friend. Thanks for sectioning out the video so I can just get the content I want. Very impressed with this content!
Ubuntu has just released a version compatible with the raspberry pi 4.
I’m new to pi and I’m considering buying a 400. I plan to use this as a basic desktop. And explore its other functions. It seems a lot of videos out there are pains are you have the pie but then you need a PC to download stuff onto her a card is this the case?
Thanks for this. My first was a VIC20.
Do you know if you can connect a video camera to maybe the 3.0 usb port? I am thinking I could use this as an alternative kids computer, but want to know your opinion on adding a camera
Yep, here in the UK I learnt how to use computers originally with the ZX81. 1k of memory expandable by ribbon cable to 16k. Horrible keyboard but I bought an alternative keyboard that worked much better. Eventually upgraded to a Sinclair Spectrum which was more expensive than this Pi 400 at £100+
Completely new to Pis and have several questions referring to how they handle storage. 1) is the SD card strictly for the OS? Or can it also store my files/data along with the OS? -and/or- 2). Is the storage of my files only on external USB HDD/SSDs?
Hello. Thank You for video. Where can I buy it?
Heck of a form factor. I feel like designs like these will be future.
I like to think of my Pis as single-use devices. For instance, I've used a Pi for Pihole, they make great retro-gaming devices, and I've used my Pis for writing machines. If I need to sit down and seriously write, I pull out my Pi. I write using markdown, so any text editor works. Or, another tool I use is an app called WordGrinder. It's like an archaic word processor from the 80s, but it's modern. It exports openoffice format files and markdown. It's surprisingly powerful, especially on a RasPi. I think this new format is tailor-made for long writing projects. But I wouldn't be surprised to find somebody taking the guts from this and adding it to an empty laptop shell. That should be cool. :-)
Stellar review, informative & detailed. Thinking of switching to Pi OS, been using an old Macbook with iMovie for editing surf & snowboard videos, nothing serious, mostly my surf crew and just 1080/60 & definitely not 4K. Can I use the Pi 400 to edit videos like the Macbook with iMovie?
So cool. Thanks for sharing
An awesome vlog. Excellent.
The link shows one with a European power supply. Where does on get one for US? Great video.
Lon you did not mention that the pi 400 has a higher clock speed than the pi 4. The pi 400 is 1.8 gigahertz instead of 1.5
Awesome...Love this for schools..very economical...not every kid needs a $350 ipad that is easily broken or stolen. Thanks for bringing this to our attention!
Should I finally replace my Oric1? Hmm....
just preordered 2. i want em so bad :) reminds me of my ole c64. i had a zx81 i learned 8080 on. but no other pc used 8080 :/ ah well. i learned 6502 then x86 with the hercules graphics card. theeeeen i gotta amiga500. a teeny bit of 68000 but mostly c, then c++. wrote my text editor in 6502 on the c64. then c on msdos and amiga500. then c++ on amiga and mac classic. then windows. right now i'm almost done getting it to work on linux with qt. anyways, this thing takes me back :)
Hysterical seeing a Mac SE in backround
Seems to be something a school could give each kid to be their own and use in each class as well as being home to do homework. Easy cheaper than iPads that a lot of these schools share with each student. Or even require parents to buy/rent.
I've bought the keyboard and mouse and the 4B port keeps stalling, plugging and unplugging doesnt help.. So dubious as to whether this will be better. Using a logitech wireless keyboard now with dingle and bluetooth mouse. no stalling.
After Lon's video on the Raspberry Pi 4 I got one to play with, but I made the mistake of using NOOBs instead of Raspian Buster... and after several frustrating hours over a few days I put it on the shelf and forgot about it. I wish the Beginner's Guide had been available when the Pi 4 came out, but apart from where to plug things in, it seems like the guide is as much for the 4 as the 400, so at some point I'll start over with the real OS.
The guide is definitely good for both! It's really well put together to get people into the eco system.
Would it be good to get on steam?
Better keyboard and more ports than many apple products.
Things that make ya go “hmmm.” 😂
4:05 I thought the gigabit bottleneck was only an issue with the Pi 3 series, since now it’s connected to the USB 3.0 controller
4:51 There’s a software switch to enable 60fps output at 4K, but your monitor/tv and even your hdmi cable has to be capable of it (has to support some version of the hdmi spec). I don’t think it will work with two 4K displays, though. Not sure.
8:28 Oh, bless. 😍
Great review. Does it come with Mathematica preloaded? If so it’s a steal!
The regular Raspberry Pi 4B which uses 4 GB of RAM and Raspberry Pi 400 uses the same 4B 4 GB board but the Pi 400 is made into to a long narrow board to fit the keyboard. the 8 GB version of the Pi 4B does video better so it seems to be a insufficient ram issue. I wish they made the Pi 400 with 8 GB as well. it is also 300 MHz faster at 1.8 GHz vs the 1.5. the heatsink in the Pi 400 will allow for up to about 2 GHz overclock. beyond that and it might get throttling issues. I don't have either but that is what I have found out. I think I could make some modifications to the Pi 400 to allow for better cooling and maybe a 2.2 GHz overclock like Pi 4B with the Ice Cube cooler, particularly the tall version which cools a little better the the lower height one. my idea would make it a bit heavier and less attractive but mods and maker builds and experimentation is what these types of systems are all about.
from my experience the memory cards suck and randomly die.
Is there room and the means to throw an SSD inside the keyboard case?
Or do you have to run an external one?
I don't think there's room inside but they can now boot off of USB so you could attach an external if you don't trust the flash card.
Don’t panic! They have been working hard on SD card reliability and fixed a lot of the corruption problems.
Oh wow. That's pretty cool.
Have you used the piboy dmg?
Hi Lon,
As you said in the video the Pi400 is a great computer for children. As someone who plays an active role in their local school how do you feel about "GIMP" program name and its fork to the name "Glimpse"?
It may be a cultural thing but the name has always been a bit weird for me. Especially in the context of a computer for children.
What a beautiful item! Is that weird to say?
The Commodore 64 is dead... Long live the Commodore 64!
I love this idea! Would be amazing if the keyboard was Bluetooth too so I could use it with my laptop too.
It has Bluetooth and you could maybe program it to do what you want 😀
Where can we get one? As usuall every UA-cam guy has it, but we
can't buy it .
I've got one. It's available on raspberry pi website
@@russellbennett6609 I just looked and it says There are no resellers for the product model that match your selected criteria.. US Keyboard, and "Rest Of the World" selected. I don't see USA on the drop down.
My son is learning Scratch on his Chromebook
A long way from “10 PRINT “HELLO!”, 20 GOTO 10” on my Franklin ACE 1000!
On the raspberry pi 4 and reportedly the 400, the ethernet does not go through the usb and is full speed.
The GPOI's should have a Cover i say
To bad they didn't included PoE on the lan interface...
Awesome
You get your coffee mugs yet?
retropie ?
Waiting for the 4k uploads...
That is pretty kewl, but all those wires connected to the back is annoying. lol
I can see some modder transform this on a notebook
Hi Lon the rasberry pi 400 key board is nice you could hook up to your pc and your laptop right Lon everyone should get this one right Lon your awesome Lon and keep up the good work ☺and stay safe Lon your rock 🎸Lon
WiFi?
Yes it has WiFi and Bluetooth
ok
Not better than a ZXSpectrum 128k :)
Advise anyone looking to pick this up look for lighter weight programs.
Instead of kibr office, abiword
Instead of chromium look into lighter weight growsers,
And so on.
I do not need this. I WANT one though. I also want to pick one up for my niece.
It is true that there are alternatives to the pre-installed applications that some may prefer. But the ones chosen by the Raspberry OS people are actually pretty efficient these days, and 4 GB of RAM goes a lot further here than someone used to Windows 10 would expect. Loading programs from an SD card is a lot slower than a spinning rust drive, even worse compared to a real SSD. But as a more advanced project, it is already possible to plug a fast mass storage device into one of the USB3 ports and run from there, and I expect this will get a lot easier by next year sometime.
Kinda useless... You can teach coding in school on those old Netbooks with Atom N270... Dont need raspi for that.
GNU is pronounced GuNew not Gee eNN you.
马一下 给小孩
hi
AND...THIS AIN'T CHINESE! The Brits make this.
If it doesn't come preloaded with BASIC, it's crap!