The TikTok Ban

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  • @PolyMatter
    @PolyMatter  4 роки тому +741

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  • @jannik6496
    @jannik6496 4 роки тому +5114

    Me: Hey, can you tell me something about the Tiktok ban?
    PolyMatter: Zhang Yiming was born in April 1982.
    Me: Okay, but what does this have to do with the Tiktok ban?
    PolyMater: We get there, when we get there

    • @night00glider
      @night00glider 4 роки тому +85

      Did they get there?

    • @jannik6496
      @jannik6496 4 роки тому +228

      @@night00glider They did.

    • @vidhyuthviswanathan5202
      @vidhyuthviswanathan5202 4 роки тому +94

      YU HIN TANG ur video is dumb

    • @LiThePear
      @LiThePear 4 роки тому +71

      Vidhyuth Viswanathan what is it?
      (Edit)
      LMFAO I CLICKED THE LINK OUT OF CURIOSITY ITS JUST SOME SHIT GAMEPLAY OF A RANDOM GAME AND IT HAS 60 DISLIKES

    • @addedpole
      @addedpole 4 роки тому +42

      @YU HIN TANG youll fail as youtuber

  • @labeeb7735
    @labeeb7735 4 роки тому +6993

    Can't believe you weren't sponsored by a VPN for this one, would've been a perfect transition

    • @rrune
      @rrune 4 роки тому +192

      I'd rather take the bad transition than seeing an ad for some scamy VPN provider tho

    • @paulomendoza5606
      @paulomendoza5606 4 роки тому +42

      But the transition he did was great imo

    • @oliverhalenius
      @oliverhalenius 4 роки тому +30

      @@rrune all vpns Arent scammy

    • @rrune
      @rrune 4 роки тому +58

      @@oliverhalenius tell me one who isn't advertising with the "your ISP can spy on you" bullshit

    • @xw3132
      @xw3132 4 роки тому +73

      @@rrune but your ISP can spy on you, and is spying on you. It's perfectly legal in the US. It's probably how you get caught watching pirated movies.

  • @jive3341
    @jive3341 4 роки тому +1326

    Polymatter: There is however one obvious difference between these two”
    One is a robot and the other one is a lizard?

    • @karlwheeler9076
      @karlwheeler9076 4 роки тому +89

      Honestly, they're both lizard robots

    • @jed-henrywitkowski6470
      @jed-henrywitkowski6470 4 роки тому +3

      Lol.

    • @stevethea5250
      @stevethea5250 4 роки тому +2

      @@karlwheeler9076 @Kaiwen Yang *HI,*
      *The Excels forumla in description don't work properly. and look different :(*
      *I have some questions if you could help, hope it's simple enough:*
      *7:30** I crosschecked - WHat to do if the Tax ready Income&Tax, does not match Gross payments & payg Withholding figures on the income statement? It's Higher on ATO portal..what does it mean*
      *10:39** wanted you would talk about ETP because I left a job that year too, do I need to crosscheck something..?*
      *Please tell me more about that.*
      _(Also my Separation certificate has a Gross amount of RDO$500; and Annual leave of some few thousands$ - were thise already added/included to the Income statement's"Gross payments" figure?
      Do you know what "Make-up pay" is on Payslip, looks like it cancelled out one of my A.L days._
      *16:20** is it when the insurance co. processes it, or when the payment hits a bank account?*
      *18:48** mine is also prefilled "0" - am I meant to change the figure to the one in my Statement(under header "Superannuation entitlements/Employer reported super => "Employer superannuation contribution liability" ?*
      20:40 my bank already prefilled so just leaving it ..
      *26:07** my Estimated more details, Does not show any "ETP & Unused Leave" line like yours? Why*
      But I have an extra line "Other liabilities: Medicare levy ~500$
      26:43 guess i am eligible because to do deliveries with my own car to client sites :D
      *29:09** how do input Laundry expense?*

    • @杨树行
      @杨树行 4 роки тому +9

      Just give us the lizard terminator.

    • @elcidgaming
      @elcidgaming 4 роки тому +24

      @@stevethea5250 Wtf is this??

  • @shubhamshrestha6935
    @shubhamshrestha6935 4 роки тому +1733

    Those were good old days when TikTok was just the sound of a clock.

    • @fasihahmad3756
      @fasihahmad3756 4 роки тому +89

      Those were the good old days when TikTok was just a song.

    • @TusharSundarka
      @TusharSundarka 4 роки тому +11

      and the song

    • @theolich4384
      @theolich4384 4 роки тому +4

      Intel: hold my beer

    • @Z18-i3n
      @Z18-i3n 4 роки тому +2

      IT RHYMES AHH

    • @XDarkGreyX
      @XDarkGreyX 3 роки тому +7

      I used to really enjoy saying it when the situation called for it. But, society ruined it for me.

  • @Vanderfate
    @Vanderfate 4 роки тому +924

    Speaking about data privacy.....
    Google: I'm out
    Facebook: I'm out
    Twitter: I'm out

    • @zhangeluo3947
      @zhangeluo3947 4 роки тому +68

      China: I'm out

    • @picklepie5127
      @picklepie5127 4 роки тому +77

      The internet: I'm out

    • @shashankgupta6205
      @shashankgupta6205 4 роки тому +41

      Well frankly speaking, no one cares about data privacy. The threat actually it posses is that CCP passed a law under which every company headquartered in China need to share the data when asked by government. Another law under which anyone who speaks against china is a nation traitor ans should be punished even if the person is foreigner. The question is how CCP will know that someone outside of China is speaking against the CCP ?? You know the answer.

    • @reecerobotics4720
      @reecerobotics4720 4 роки тому +8

      China: I'll take it

    • @AdaptiveDevelopementPlatform
      @AdaptiveDevelopementPlatform 4 роки тому +14

      Microsoft: I'm Out
      Instagram: I'm Out
      etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.
      They all steal your data. The only 2 real issues are 1. US Government does not see this data 2. All other US social media giants are scared.

  • @ColinandSamir
    @ColinandSamir 4 роки тому +472

    This is super informative...thanks for making this

  • @Anonymous-wf7cb
    @Anonymous-wf7cb 4 роки тому +4879

    ‘Tik tok steals your data and sell it’
    Google: *sweating profusely*
    Edit: oof I created a war. It’s a joke everyone calm down

    • @kidatanakafan
      @kidatanakafan 4 роки тому +702

      at least google doesnt sell it to the government.... oh wait, nevermind.

    • @zszs100
      @zszs100 4 роки тому +675

      ARGUMENT: "BUT China banned some of our stuff like Facebook and UA-cam!
      COUNTER ARGUMENT: The reason China banned them is because those companies refused to follow China's regulations, whereas the US banned Huawei and Tiktok, etc, with ZERO proof of any wrong doing. Meanwhile the US is the biggest spy. For example, German intelligence found 10 back doors in CISCO products, while they found ZERO in Huawei's. The US wants freedom while they are enforcing anti freedom and censorship at the same time. xD
      EDIT: Watch Nathan Rich's "Why China banned Facebook" video for an in depth explanation of some of the regulations China asked these companies to follow. Actually NOT as draconian you'd expect.

    • @polishraspberries
      @polishraspberries 4 роки тому +216

      @@kidatanakafan at least google doesn't sell it to other companies... oh wait, nevermind.

    • @cowboymooman8776
      @cowboymooman8776 4 роки тому +254

      @@kidatanakafan at least Google doesnt send it to a government that *currently* put ethnic minorities in camps

    • @fatyoshi4853
      @fatyoshi4853 4 роки тому +147

      Anonymous 1434 well, honestly, i’d rather have my data to the EU (or the US, but im from Europe) instead of the PRC

  • @alithinker
    @alithinker 4 роки тому +427

    I never downloaded tiktok let alone use it.
    But this video was interesting.

  • @Sam-mo6cp
    @Sam-mo6cp 4 роки тому +334

    Honestly by now, I think the internet knows more of me than I actually know myself Lmao 💀

    • @Legion849
      @Legion849 4 роки тому +8

      Not the 'internet' welcome to the Brave New World . Not there yet but we'll get there in about 5 years

    • @superpuiu8903
      @superpuiu8903 4 роки тому

      xD

    • @solexcollection
      @solexcollection 4 роки тому +1

      @@Legion849 😐

    • @starstudio8402
      @starstudio8402 3 роки тому

      Internet bouta list ya latitude and longitude

    • @mcfarofinha134
      @mcfarofinha134 3 роки тому

      Nice pfp bro

  • @birchtree5884
    @birchtree5884 4 роки тому +1393

    "There is a third, neutral path"
    In other words, US politicians will never implement it.

    • @edgelord8337
      @edgelord8337 4 роки тому +32

      Basically.

    • @uiopuiop3472
      @uiopuiop3472 4 роки тому +1

      wabbajack!

    • @prakharmishra3000
      @prakharmishra3000 4 роки тому +12

      They do anything for votes

    • @jeffwang6460
      @jeffwang6460 4 роки тому +8

      Not just. Chinese politics and industry are both incredibly short sighted

    • @prexp9026
      @prexp9026 4 роки тому +11

      Or any other stratified, polarized, highly factionized nation.

  • @xisumavoid
    @xisumavoid 4 роки тому +491

    Fantastic video! So well thought out. Very interesting :-)

    • @fish9468
      @fish9468 4 роки тому +8

      Heya xisuma

    • @karthikps4889
      @karthikps4889 4 роки тому +38

      I never thought you were interested in such topics xisuma...

    • @edgelord8337
      @edgelord8337 4 роки тому +15

      Well this is a surprise.
      I love your content.

    • @sonickiller360
      @sonickiller360 4 роки тому +5

      Ahhh the intellectual Dunning-Kruger himself.

    • @ahlixemus8903
      @ahlixemus8903 4 роки тому +4

      The Strider man has seen the Tok! Nice to see ya here.

  • @begonedamen
    @begonedamen 4 роки тому +276

    Someone: **makes a Google stealing data joke**
    Karens: *_W H O M P S T H A S A W O K E N T H E A N C I E N T O N E?_*

    • @markhenley3097
      @markhenley3097 4 роки тому +9

      @The Local Doomer Liberal SJW detected.

    • @begonedamen
      @begonedamen 4 роки тому +2

      @The Local Doomer
      joke
      /jōk/
      •Learn to pronounce
      _noun_
      a thing that someone says to cause amusement or laughter, especially a story with a funny punchline.

    • @jasonstarrising
      @jasonstarrising 4 роки тому +1

      The Local Doomer
      Stfu noob

    • @marteenyo
      @marteenyo 4 роки тому

      kihroudy. you still use “snowflakes” and expect to make a valid point 😶

    • @begonedamen
      @begonedamen 4 роки тому +2

      @@marteenyo
      joke
      /jōk/
      •Learn to pronounce
      _noun_
      a thing that someone says to cause amusement or laughter, especially a story with a funny punchline.

  • @Xperian13
    @Xperian13 4 роки тому +405

    Indonesia actually temporarily banned TikTok a while back.

    • @Nron-ni4gj
      @Nron-ni4gj 4 роки тому +61

      That actually sounds more "normal.
      All countries can ban a thing, but Trump is forcing Tictok to sell it.

    • @ExtremelyGullibleMeme
      @ExtremelyGullibleMeme 4 роки тому +6

      Temporarily?

    • @wenmingwang1616
      @wenmingwang1616 4 роки тому +2

      Illuminati Is real, no it is not just like the facebook

    • @ExtremelyGullibleMeme
      @ExtremelyGullibleMeme 4 роки тому +3

      Wenming Wang wat

    • @ThatNerdAlbert
      @ThatNerdAlbert 4 роки тому

      Can confirm, though banned for another reason I think.

  • @alexpickus9445
    @alexpickus9445 4 роки тому +459

    “This is a long term solution for a long term problem” America: oooh we don’t like that

    • @alexau9657
      @alexau9657 4 роки тому +2

      Hello fellow Alex.

    • @leonardo9259
      @leonardo9259 4 роки тому +1

      @YU HIN TANG dame da ne

    • @bandombeviews6035
      @bandombeviews6035 4 роки тому +1

      Yo dame yo

    • @Nron-ni4gj
      @Nron-ni4gj 4 роки тому

      The problem is, wherever u r from, check how many apps u use are from America.
      America doesn't worry about national security from those apps, because those are theirs.
      If u believe other countries would have more presence on ur platforms, then this will not be the last.

    • @theboringprogrammer4444
      @theboringprogrammer4444 4 роки тому

      @YU HIN TANG
      wtf

  • @andzagorulko
    @andzagorulko 4 роки тому +893

    China: blocks US software.
    US rolls uno reverse card.

    • @marteenyo
      @marteenyo 4 роки тому +5

      ok russian bot

    • @RealGeorgeWashingtonFr
      @RealGeorgeWashingtonFr 4 роки тому +80

      Martin Amarilla ok bud

    • @marteenyo
      @marteenyo 4 роки тому +1

      TruHurtz you too?

    • @RealGeorgeWashingtonFr
      @RealGeorgeWashingtonFr 4 роки тому +36

      There are more of us than you can ever count. Soon, very soon, we will gain enough strength and power to take over the world. No one shall cross our paths. Whoever tries to shall meet their awful death. Beware stranger

    • @stevethea5250
      @stevethea5250 4 роки тому +1

      @Kaiwen Yang *HI,*
      *The Excels forumla in description don't work properly. and look different :(*
      *I have some questions if you could help, hope it's simple enough:*
      *7:30** I crosschecked - WHat to do if the Tax ready Income&Tax, does not match Gross payments & payg Withholding figures on the income statement? It's Higher on ATO portal..what does it mean*
      *10:39** wanted you would talk about ETP because I left a job that year too, do I need to crosscheck something..?*
      *Please tell me more about that.*
      _(Also my Separation certificate has a Gross amount of RDO$500; and Annual leave of some few thousands$ - were thise already added/included to the Income statement's"Gross payments" figure?
      Do you know what "Make-up pay" is on Payslip, looks like it cancelled out one of my A.L days._
      *16:20** is it when the insurance co. processes it, or when the payment hits a bank account?*
      *18:48** mine is also prefilled "0" - am I meant to change the figure to the one in my Statement(under header "Superannuation entitlements/Employer reported super => "Employer superannuation contribution liability" ?*
      20:40 my bank already prefilled so just leave it ..

  • @metadragon7500
    @metadragon7500 4 роки тому +558

    I have to say, your pronunciation of Chinese characters is getting a lot better.

    • @oswald7597
      @oswald7597 4 роки тому +8

      Well, seeing how many videos he makes about China it seems logical

    • @fixafix69
      @fixafix69 4 роки тому +5

      @Viktor Birkeland
      R/notopbutok

    • @prexp9026
      @prexp9026 4 роки тому +4

      @Viktor Birkeland Keep it up dude.

    • @benjaminchen8857
      @benjaminchen8857 4 роки тому +5

      @Viktor Birkeland rookie mistake, though, saying the surname (lastname in English, goes first in Chinese) as if it was the given name (firstname in English, goes last in Chinese). You even had the comma right. So close

    • @jinjunliu2401
      @jinjunliu2401 4 роки тому

      @@benjaminchen8857 Ah yes it's only a small subtle thing I didn't notice at first. Order was fine, just needed little more emphasis on the given name

  • @cptyolowaffle
    @cptyolowaffle 4 роки тому +259

    Tiktok has the largest reserve of middle school girls information

    • @jirkavebr-czmapper8059
      @jirkavebr-czmapper8059 4 роки тому +34

      More like elementary school girls

    • @cptyolowaffle
      @cptyolowaffle 4 роки тому +4

      He I think both

    • @animerocks2468
      @animerocks2468 4 роки тому +6

      ​@@jirkavebr-czmapper8059 Isn't its main demographic high school students?

    • @jirkavebr-czmapper8059
      @jirkavebr-czmapper8059 4 роки тому +11

      @@animerocks2468 Where I live mostly 11-16 year old girls are using it. And here in Czechia we have elementary school for kids from 6-15 and high school (secondary school) for 15-19 yos

    • @lederpo3837
      @lederpo3837 4 роки тому +2

      That is far too true

  • @ReaperBlack-no3ig
    @ReaperBlack-no3ig 4 роки тому +419

    You: Thank God I deleted TikTok, my privacy is now safe.
    Also You: Let me post this on Facebook.

    • @jacobscrackers98
      @jacobscrackers98 4 роки тому +4

      I consider everything I post on Facebook to be pretty much public

    • @jacobscrackers98
      @jacobscrackers98 4 роки тому +6

      But yeah, you are right. That's why I want everyone to move to privacy-respecting platforms such as (most of) the Fediverse.

    • @AurumFaber
      @AurumFaber 4 роки тому +3

      I don't have such weaknesses

    • @ushdhyxywb
      @ushdhyxywb 4 роки тому +11

      Me who never even made a FB account: I'm 4 parallel ahead of you.

    • @altonalton2746
      @altonalton2746 4 роки тому +1

      What is TikTok ?

  • @tankiisterr
    @tankiisterr 4 роки тому +470

    “chose for the pretty girls and the winter snow.”
    relatable

    • @alphawolfie1122
      @alphawolfie1122 4 роки тому +1

      ua-cam.com/video/1WyypHkyxvo/v-deo.html WOW I JUST FOUND THE FACE OF POLYMATTER

    • @Stoopidxoolin
      @Stoopidxoolin 4 роки тому +14

      Mans really got the right priorities

    • @wli2718
      @wli2718 4 роки тому +2

      to be fair. the video asserts he succeeded. so.... hes got the babe and the money. lucky guy.

    • @Rugg-qk4pl
      @Rugg-qk4pl 4 роки тому +12

      @@alphawolfie1122 Damn youtube comment bots have gotten way worse in the past month or so

    • @unifieddynasty
      @unifieddynasty 4 роки тому

      Wait... I hear something in the distance ua-cam.com/video/6DcinsRPR5s/v-deo.html
      😀

  • @hyper9984
    @hyper9984 4 роки тому +230

    When he said "It could be you" at the end, my Google Assistant activated

  • @FriedRice3519
    @FriedRice3519 4 роки тому +346

    The only information tik tok is obtaining:
    - middle school girls
    - e bois
    - vsco girls
    - the grown ups who wanna blend with the fellow children

    • @isaachenrikson3197
      @isaachenrikson3197 4 роки тому +90

      and, (sadly but true)
      -child predators

    • @pencil5845
      @pencil5845 4 роки тому +25

      Having that information is still dangerous

    • @thecoolcarhd4402
      @thecoolcarhd4402 4 роки тому +20

      And post bunch of communism.

    • @mhickodominguez3331
      @mhickodominguez3331 4 роки тому +20

      Yeah but they can very well put propaganda in tiktok which could influence the US and other countries

    • @wangjack703
      @wangjack703 4 роки тому +3

      @@thecoolcarhd4402where?

  • @staainless
    @staainless 4 роки тому +301

    PolyMatter: There, however, is a third neutral path.
    US Politicians: 𝗣𝗲𝗮𝗰𝗲 𝘄𝗮𝘀 𝗻𝗲𝘃𝗲𝗿 𝗮𝗻 𝗼𝗽𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻

  • @Lakoda26
    @Lakoda26 4 роки тому +79

    YES! Privacy shouldn't be a foreign issue or a political issue, it should just be an expectation of reality. Treat them all the same and force all this crap into the light!!!

  • @shashankdevineni6969
    @shashankdevineni6969 3 роки тому +13

    The main reason people supported the tiktok ban in india is due the extremely cringey stuff and people would go to all lengths to gain a celebrity status and become recognisable. and it is so addictive that people are too busy scrolling down than take a shit or something else. The thing that indian parents are always afraid of is addiction of any and all kind except generic studies. So majority population didn't fight for it to stay instead thought better let it go before they once again fall into the loop of scrolling down.

  • @samoza659
    @samoza659 4 роки тому +230

    I really Like that you are unbiased. Its very rare 👌

    • @virgilvandijk8344
      @virgilvandijk8344 4 роки тому +16

      True its up to viewer to decide zero propaganda

    • @zszs100
      @zszs100 4 роки тому +44

      ARGUMENT: "BUT China bans some of our stuff like Facebook!
      COUNTER ARGUMENT: China banned them because those companies refused to follow China's regulations, whereas the US banned Huawei and Tiktok, etc, with ZERO proof of any wrong doing. Meanwhile the US is the biggest spy. For example, German intelligence found 10 back doors in CISCO products, while they found ZERO in Huawei's. The US wants freedom while they are enforcing anti freedom and censorship at the same time. xD

    • @MrDuckFIN
      @MrDuckFIN 4 роки тому +29

      @@zszs100 you're responding to no one, wumao. keep coping while nobody's asking

    • @zszs100
      @zszs100 4 роки тому +18

      @@MrDuckFIN Ur a perfect example of bias, ignorance, anti capitalism, and fake news. Someone that willingly wants their freedom to be taken away. :)

    • @puppybytes
      @puppybytes 4 роки тому +1

      @@arnavketineni7836 they aren't saying that

  • @AlexTrout79
    @AlexTrout79 4 роки тому +169

    “Suspicions of foreign interference”...I wonder why the same “suspicions” dont happen with US apps in other countries...hmmmmm

    • @SirFaceFone
      @SirFaceFone 4 роки тому +30

      Well it kinda did, some popular Western apps are banned in mainland China.

    • @AlexTrout79
      @AlexTrout79 4 роки тому +40

      FortydroidG I was talking about other countries. Because Australia had “suspicions”. So Australia or Europe for example. I am romanian so why would a tiktok ban make sense and not a facebook ban? Facebook gets user info out of the coutry right? Why isnt Australia banning facebook?

    • @AlexTrout79
      @AlexTrout79 4 роки тому +19

      FortydroidG because I understand that it’s not a commercial or political move right? It’s for protecting the citizens and not have their info exported. But somehow US seems to be entitled to user data from around the globe, not only US citizens...

    • @maxybaer123
      @maxybaer123 4 роки тому +6

      because at least from my extremely laymans understanding there are several countries that share a lot of their spy network with the US and vice versa. There is also a ton of cooperation between the western countries even the ones that dont straight up share their spy information with each other. For example just about any european can make an app and its not like the US is going to arrest them on suspicion. Theres also a major concern that this app is owned almost directly by the chinese government which is not present in most of western society as the governments rarely own major companies

    • @shivendravivswan
      @shivendravivswan 4 роки тому +9

      Weren't google and Facebook penalized in europe ?

  • @user-umcub
    @user-umcub 4 роки тому +154

    I feel bad for those losing their jobs in such a hard time we live in

    • @stevethea5250
      @stevethea5250 4 роки тому

      @Kaiwen Yang *HI,*
      *The Excels forumla in description don't work properly. and look different :(*
      *I have some questions if you could help, hope it's simple enough:*
      *7:30** I crosschecked - WHat to do if the Tax ready Income&Tax, does not match Gross payments & payg Withholding figures on the income statement? It's Higher on ATO portal..what does it mean*
      *10:39** wanted you would talk about ETP because I left a job that year too, do I need to crosscheck something..?*
      *Please tell me more about that.*
      _(Also my Separation certificate has a Gross amount of RDO$500; and Annual leave of some few thousands$ - were thise already added/included to the Income statement's"Gross payments" figure?
      Do you know what "Make-up pay" is on Payslip, looks like it cancelled out one of my A.L days._
      *16:20** is it when the insurance co. processes it, or when the payment hits a bank account?*
      *18:48** mine is also prefilled "0" - am I meant to change the figure to the one in my Statement(under header "Superannuation entitlements/Employer reported super => "Employer superannuation contribution liability" ?*
      20:40 my bank already prefilled so just leaving it ..
      *26:07** my Estimated more details, Does not show any "ETP & Unused Leave" line like yours? Why*
      But I have an extra line "Other liabilities: Medicare levy ~500$
      26:43 guess i am eligible because to do deliveries with my own car to client sites :D
      *29:09** how do input Laundry expense?*
      33:07 yes i'm trying confirm homeoffice rate for that year
      33:40 how is interest/dividend deduction different to the earlier one? what threshold does this one apply?

    • @lettsstartcooking
      @lettsstartcooking 4 роки тому +5

      @@stevethea5250 sorry wrong video:( or maybe ur a bot?

    • @thegamerkhan
      @thegamerkhan 4 роки тому +5

      @@lettsstartcooking a bot

    • @agusmohamad8572
      @agusmohamad8572 3 роки тому +1

      Bot

    • @fettsforlife4081
      @fettsforlife4081 3 роки тому +2

      man this comment did not age well

  • @LancesArmorStriking
    @LancesArmorStriking 4 роки тому +36

    Judging by all the comments saying "bUt wHaT aBoUT tHe U.s.?!!", I'd say China's marketing/nation brand tactics are working better than we thought!
    Guys.
    Just because the U.S. does something, doesn't mean we should condone other countries doing it too. We should protest against American and Chinese (and any other) companies stealing our data. Two wrongs don't make a right.

    • @lilwitchschierke2530
      @lilwitchschierke2530 4 роки тому +2

      You totally miss the point. People point out what America does to show you that they are doing the SAME thing to China as it did to Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan etc. This "wumao" "50 cent troll" thing was also started in the US. You believed the devil.

    • @lilwitchschierke2530
      @lilwitchschierke2530 4 роки тому +2

      Also take down that Russian flag you are not Russian you LARPER

    • @3User
      @3User 4 роки тому +1

      @@lilwitchschierke2530 what is america doing to china that china did to middle eastern countries?

    • @lilwitchschierke2530
      @lilwitchschierke2530 4 роки тому

      @@3User Funding Ughyrs Terrorists in Xinjiang duh. For the past 3 decades Xinjiang has experienced deaths equivalent of Boston bombing every month. And ofcourse they support Tibetan separatists too. America just love making enemies fight eachother and then lied about everything once they failed. Divide and conquer is the name of the game. When that dont work its a lying fest.

    • @lilwitchschierke2530
      @lilwitchschierke2530 4 роки тому

      @@3User Oh and if you're woke you would know the US does exactly everything they accused other people of doing. The wumao thing. Ask the CIA and NSA. They do employ online trolls. They already have backdoors to everything.

  • @briancheng8243
    @briancheng8243 4 роки тому +74

    Your Mandarin is improving!

    • @firstname4304
      @firstname4304 4 роки тому

      He speaks Chinese?

    • @abdull4h_m572
      @abdull4h_m572 4 роки тому +1

      Peppa pig is one thicc Bih probably improving on his pronouncition.

    • @user-kx5es4kr4x
      @user-kx5es4kr4x 4 роки тому

      Im also learning Mandarin! 你叫什么名字

    • @v1nce502
      @v1nce502 4 роки тому

      GD Spam King What's your hardest demon

    • @juice8431
      @juice8431 4 роки тому

      i speak a bit of mandrin and japanese too lol

  • @Corndogman42069
    @Corndogman42069 3 роки тому +5

    This channel is quickly becoming my favorite

  • @genericaccount9222
    @genericaccount9222 4 роки тому +535

    Pretty girls in engineering? Looks like I’m moving to Beijing

  • @shadbakht
    @shadbakht 4 роки тому +37

    16:00 that wouldn't do anything. Even if you forced Tiktok to store user data in US, and expose their algorithm, etc. The Beijing headquarters would be required by their law to simply copy all that data from the US to China if it so pleased at any point, because they obviously have direct access to that data center.

    • @hgos7211
      @hgos7211 4 роки тому +3

      That can very easily be exposed. So no. The US TikTok servers are in the U.S, with a backup in Singapore. Not China.

    • @ec1480
      @ec1480 4 роки тому +5

      @@hgos7211 They have to send the data to China if the CCP asks for it, so yes.

    • @aburetik4866
      @aburetik4866 4 роки тому

      This is only assumption. And this can be applied to all apps, like google,facebook,whatsapp etc. They can also send their data to the US government. So all apps should be banned.

    • @shadbakht
      @shadbakht 4 роки тому +2

      资深杠精_升级中 ya but it’s not to a foreign government. Imagine all user data from Weibo could be sent to US government if they requested it. Or LinkedIn, if you’d like a better example.

    • @glowingone1774
      @glowingone1774 4 роки тому +3

      @@aburetik4866 Hey fellow 50 cent army? how much can i make in a day posting pro ccp propaganda, think i can make a living of it?

  • @scottyxu5970
    @scottyxu5970 4 роки тому +7

    Massive respect for going to the lengths to correctly pronounce yiming's name at the start

  • @PorkchopSandviches
    @PorkchopSandviches 4 роки тому +755

    "We're concerned about the Chinese government collecting your data" - brought to you by the same people who gave you award winning legislation such as: The Patriot Act!

    • @SerPapus
      @SerPapus 4 роки тому +52

      Sam Clement atleast it’s America collecting your data not China who is evil

    • @benheinz8817
      @benheinz8817 4 роки тому +48

      Hypocrites they certainly are, but they are also right.

    • @engiethefriendlyengineer
      @engiethefriendlyengineer 4 роки тому +31

      The patriot act only applies when they are suspicious of someone who could do harm. That's why we made it. The government doesnt automatically spy on its citizens.

    • @fujihita2500
      @fujihita2500 4 роки тому +152

      @@engiethefriendlyengineer Edward Snowden would like to know your IP address.

    • @joshuakevinserdan9331
      @joshuakevinserdan9331 4 роки тому +29

      @@engiethefriendlyengineer read snowden's book titled permanent record

  • @CCGBacon17
    @CCGBacon17 4 роки тому +148

    Polymatter: *uploads*
    Everyone: _"a surprise to be sure, but a welcome one"_

    • @darcflame37
      @darcflame37 4 роки тому +4

      Cancer

    • @CCGBacon17
      @CCGBacon17 4 роки тому +2

      @@darcflame37 go listen and cry to Billie Eilish or something, cause the name checks out

    • @The_NSeven
      @The_NSeven 4 роки тому +1

      That's a really bad comment lmao, fits right on reddit

    • @CCGBacon17
      @CCGBacon17 4 роки тому +1

      @@The_NSeven yes

    • @max-hm8yq
      @max-hm8yq 4 роки тому

      Tik tok bad

  • @Pedrosa2541
    @Pedrosa2541 4 роки тому +10

    Great video, I was expecting a clear cut answear like "tik tok is bad", but it's actually a really in deph
    analyze about the problem as a whole.

  • @yms9829
    @yms9829 4 роки тому +323

    Just imagine Microsoft has to sell its Chinese part to Alibaba under Chinese government’s threat

    • @ABC-qd5oc
      @ABC-qd5oc 4 роки тому +19

      Funny thing is that they don't use windows there. And yes this is a first hand experience from someone who lived in Shenzen for 2 years.

    • @Nron-ni4gj
      @Nron-ni4gj 4 роки тому +49

      @@ABC-qd5oc What? Guess what I'm using?

    • @user-qwertyuiopasdfghj
      @user-qwertyuiopasdfghj 4 роки тому +28

      AB C In China, you can use windows and bing (censored version of course). Chrome,Google website,Facebook and UA-cam are banned

    • @天天-r7v
      @天天-r7v 4 роки тому +98

      @@ABC-qd5oc ?????? Bruh I lived in China for 8 years, All computers except for apple ones run windows. You think they made a separate opperating system for just chinese computers? lmao

    • @yms9829
      @yms9829 4 роки тому +22

      Or imagine Facebook, Twitter, Twitch sell its Japanese part to Sony under Japanese Government’s threat

  • @glegos2281
    @glegos2281 4 роки тому +82

    Great video, im glad to see that people are finally addressing this issue in such a way that doesnt make it look like a conservative conspiracy theory with dubious racist undertones. It is a very pressing issue. but i gotta disagree with the idea that storing data in the us physically makes it safe. If the chinese government asks for access, tik tok is obliged to give it to them, no matter where the servers physically are.

    • @santiagorappy71
      @santiagorappy71 4 роки тому +1

      so are you saying that the US gov is accesing the data chinese people introduce when using cn.bing.com? :0 all gov's do that lol

    • @glegos2281
      @glegos2281 4 роки тому +10

      @@santiagorappy71 no, what im saying is that even if you store your sensitive user data physically in the US, if tik tok can still access it remotely, then that means the chinese government could also access it remotely. If you are a chinese company, you are literally required to have ccp members on staff and report directly to the government. Thats why the chinese economy can change and grow so efficiently, its authoritarian capitalism. Theres nothing to stop the ccp from ordering that tik tok scoop up as much sensitive data as it can and send it directly back to them.

    • @杨子超-k7u
      @杨子超-k7u 4 роки тому +2

      Glegos - in fact, Tik Tok is trying every measure to prevent this happen from a technical perspective, but US is still banning it. And based on your logic, all countries should ban US apps as they may send data to the US gov. This move is nothing with security stuff but political gains. Facebook is behind the scene.

    • @nishantjain1448
      @nishantjain1448 4 роки тому +2

      It can be prevented if tiktok leaves it's parent ByteDance....if a US Corp. Owns it then it will be safer

    • @glegos2281
      @glegos2281 4 роки тому +12

      @@杨子超-k7u in fact, im opposed to western companies collecting data in this way as well, but in the west you have legal recourse if your privacy is sufficiently breached. That and the collection of data through american apps isnt directed by the us government for the explicit purpose of espionage. The chinese government actively seeks to farm data and infiltrate western institutions. You cannot convince me that these actions equivalent with the US, or defend their actions. Plus youre probably a wumao anyways so enjoy the 50 cents you got for this comment.

  • @Rxfaay
    @Rxfaay 4 роки тому +2

    I have never seen such a smooth transition to a ad in a video

  • @KodziB
    @KodziB 4 роки тому +84

    At 5:34 it's shown that all Chinese downloads of TikTok were iOS, but I'm pretty sure that is false.
    EDIT: Or it just shows the global version of the app in China.

    • @krankarvolund7771
      @krankarvolund7771 4 роки тому

      There's 50millions users of Tiktok in the US and only 27M in China, his home country with three times more inhabitants than the US.... I think that the numbers on China are false XD

    • @alerxsss3658
      @alerxsss3658 4 роки тому +2

      most people in china already have the app

    • @zpmao77
      @zpmao77 4 роки тому +35

      ​@@krankarvolund7771 The Chinese version is call Douyin and isn't included in Tiktok download statistics.

    • @yiyixuu
      @yiyixuu 4 роки тому +10

      and because theres no google play in china, making all android downloads through a different source

    • @Nron-ni4gj
      @Nron-ni4gj 4 роки тому

      @@zpmao77 Yes but no. You cannot download Tictok in China.
      Only Douyin.
      I'm pretty sure they cannot track Android cus there's no Google Play.
      That actually happens a lot in statistics. In China, most Android stats are made-up assumptions based on Apple Store stats.

  • @zblurth
    @zblurth 4 роки тому +70

    "long term solution" YEAH that will never pass it's long term nobody care about that in politics

    • @bw1678
      @bw1678 4 роки тому +4

      "Will it make me look good for four years, and leave a lot of trouble for the idiot that comes after me? ... EXCELLENT...🙏

  • @dollymarie3660
    @dollymarie3660 4 роки тому +20

    Tiktok is such an impressive application and so much of the coverage on it totally talks it down, this is the most informative coverage on the app/ban yet! Great job, great video!

  • @bedris4765
    @bedris4765 4 роки тому +14

    Your voice is very calming. Love your vids.

  • @captaindak5119
    @captaindak5119 4 роки тому +184

    This feels like a case of why choose the fair logical long term solution when we can use the politically attractive and short sighted short term solution so we can win an election.

    • @notsampletext3740
      @notsampletext3740 4 роки тому +4

      Unrelated but nice Thrawn :)

    • @captaindak5119
      @captaindak5119 4 роки тому +3

      @@notsampletext3740 Thanks. There is a star wars UA-camr (star wars reading club) who uses it.

    • @Petrico94
      @Petrico94 4 роки тому +6

      I don't think this'll really save Trump from all the stuff he's pulled. Keep in mind he lost the popular vote in his first election, and now we've had him as a President before and after a global crisis, and the democrat runner isn't Hillary this time.
      Hate Tiktok or hate Trump, I don't think any action here will really decide the election. It might just be his last meaningful action before being replaced.

    • @goatskin4487
      @goatskin4487 4 роки тому +4

      @@Petrico94 Popular vote means nothing, he didn't cause corona, and biden is worse then Hillary. He is in a prime position to win again if he plays his cards right. Protecting American data from the Chinese is a Bipartisan act that can win him votes from both sides of the isle.

    • @Petrico94
      @Petrico94 4 роки тому +3

      @@goatskin4487 K, he won by gaming the system, JUST BARELY. I feel he's only lost support since then and Biden at least knows when to shut up when he doesn't know what he's talking about and can keep secrets without threatening to abuse executive powers. Rump didn't start the virus in a lab but he's been doing a lot to fire experts who could manage it better and under playing the severity, just point fingers at China for liking bat soup to dodge his responsibility for everything in American soil and his main selling point trying to help the economy by appealing to his business buddies has resulted in nothing with the crash. If the motion really is bipartisan then people will just be glad it passes even if it's the last thing this idiot does or they just give it to someone else to manage moving forward.

  • @leonzeltser7049
    @leonzeltser7049 4 роки тому +237

    I love how Trump says Tik Tok is spying on you on Facebook of all platforms

    • @The2Coolest2
      @The2Coolest2 4 роки тому +28

      Hmmm its almost like the US President can easily address US companies vs a foreign company. Y'all are clowns

    • @user-dw4ji5qq5k
      @user-dw4ji5qq5k 4 роки тому +3

      so true lol

    • @junebug8485
      @junebug8485 4 роки тому +13

      At least zuckerburg is american and not a bunch of commies trying to spy on us

    • @HodgePodgeVids1
      @HodgePodgeVids1 4 роки тому +1

      Ian Quinones Probably would do humanity a service

    • @justanamericandoggo6725
      @justanamericandoggo6725 4 роки тому

      indeed

  • @burgos582
    @burgos582 4 роки тому +88

    0:44 this placement of massachusetts is horrendous lol

    • @bryaenem882
      @bryaenem882 4 роки тому +1

      Washington lmfao

    • @Minstorm34
      @Minstorm34 4 роки тому +23

      I think it's mirrored

    • @pavifart
      @pavifart 4 роки тому +7

      Threw me off too, but it's mirrored. If you pause before all the pictures come in you can see Florida at the bottom.

    • @FelixHdez
      @FelixHdez 4 роки тому +1

      Its mirrored. Breaking news, american cant spot his own state in a map even tho its fking highlighted

    • @BANDMANATL
      @BANDMANATL 4 роки тому

      @@FelixHdez you can't lie tho, that shit does look weird as hell

  • @its_sun7906
    @its_sun7906 4 роки тому +37

    I love this and haven't even finished the video

  • @republicofglarnesia186
    @republicofglarnesia186 4 роки тому +49

    2020: well maybe I don’t want to be the bad guy anymore

    • @lilwitchschierke2530
      @lilwitchschierke2530 4 роки тому +5

      This comment will not age well.

    • @2001CuisinartToasterr
      @2001CuisinartToasterr 4 роки тому +1

      2020 is just training us for 2021

    • @jackthorton10
      @jackthorton10 4 роки тому

      Is it possible that you belived that cause your year, like everyone else's I presume, did not start off with the, I don't know. Roaring bout of the 2020s, as if we were gonna watlz into a new decade cleanly.... I by no mean am discoraging you, but I will admit you have a bit of a point.
      Besides according to the Gregorien Calender we aren't even in the the 2020s regardless, that is next year... this is what I call the transitioning year..
      Have a nice day/ night internet dweller

    • @justanamericandoggo6725
      @justanamericandoggo6725 4 роки тому

      the thing that started 2020 off as a bad year was friends being removed from netflix, change my mind

    • @DaGreatest_
      @DaGreatest_ 3 роки тому

      @@2001CuisinartToasterr Well 2021 went well

  • @Amitkumar-dv1kk
    @Amitkumar-dv1kk 4 роки тому +7

    On one side, facebook can see all my one sided conversations where I rarely get a text back from her.. On the other side, I might get a phone call telling me who to vote next.
    Hmm hard to choose.

  • @trollwhale670
    @trollwhale670 4 роки тому +7

    Great vid! Love the graphics and the story you told.

  • @frod0r
    @frod0r 4 роки тому +76

    I disagree at two points:
    Byte is actually the spiritual successor to vine as it has been created by one of the co creators of vine and and has been in the works pretty much since vine was discontinued.
    So saying it is trying to replicate the success of tiktok is quite unfair

    • @josephcarlino869
      @josephcarlino869 4 роки тому +8

      How is it unfair? They are both cancerous cringe apps where you post short videos

    • @vaporware4099
      @vaporware4099 4 роки тому +3

      @@josephcarlino869 yeah but atleast tiktoks better tbh

    • @pineappleskull5418
      @pineappleskull5418 4 роки тому

      Yes,but we got take care of our information sure it is ok for vines but i mostly it is dangerous for under age children to be harassed it was supposed to be 18+.

    • @andresiniesta9955
      @andresiniesta9955 4 роки тому +5

      False. Vine failed because it followed the old style "follow" and "timeline" model. What made TikTok revolutionary is AI based recommendations, a UI build from the ground up for a mobile experience (full screen videos instead of scrolling through posts like a website on a desktop), tools built from the ground up to shoot and edit videos directly on mobile phones extremely quickly and easily and deep integration in commerce( in Douyin). It's completely different from Vine. Byte is now copying TikTok by copying all of the above mentioned points.

    • @jinjunliu2401
      @jinjunliu2401 4 роки тому

      @@andresiniesta9955 Oh wow, haven't used the app ever so didn't know about this. Reading this makes me respect it a lot more (the app), a lot of good innovation apparently, that's very cool of them

  • @johnroy5169
    @johnroy5169 4 роки тому +2

    Honestly this is the most eye opening take on Tik Tok i’ve seen

  • @Krackerlack
    @Krackerlack 4 роки тому +39

    me with a Chinese phone: *sweats*

    • @botwenty
      @botwenty 4 роки тому +3

      OnePlus gang

    • @progamerbufovi
      @progamerbufovi 4 роки тому +6

      @@botwenty xiaomi gang oneplus and xiaomi have great phones what phone do you have

    • @tannedpotato5375
      @tannedpotato5375 4 роки тому +4

      It's because you guys have no money

    • @hikodzu
      @hikodzu 4 роки тому +1

      @@tannedpotato5375 people using Chinese Flagship : 👁️👄👁️💧

    • @carlovillavicencio5616
      @carlovillavicencio5616 4 роки тому

      Lmao I'm worse, Huawei user over here. Guess I won't be going to America ;-;

  • @PatheticTV
    @PatheticTV 4 роки тому +21

    10:33 Many apps read a devices screen size so they can tell how to layout their app, that particular point is not a trap.

    • @aka_noot
      @aka_noot 4 роки тому

      It's about the mass collection of that data to predict who is using the phone

    • @aysepersona4194
      @aysepersona4194 4 роки тому +8

      @@aka_noot sry, not true. All apps read and adjust that info. I work in digital product development and we read your screen size all the time to adjust layout. And were based in Germany where GDPR is very strict

    • @jinjunliu2401
      @jinjunliu2401 4 роки тому

      @@aysepersona4194 GDPR??? Sounds Way Too Much Like CPR!!! Coincidence?!? I think not!

    • @jinjunliu2401
      @jinjunliu2401 4 роки тому

      @@aka_noot Honestly... what kind of information can you get from a device's screen size....(that can be used against you)

    • @daisuke910
      @daisuke910 4 роки тому

      @@jinjunliu2401 What kind of the device you use lol. Are you an iPad user or Samsung tablet kind of information probably. Nothing much but people just want to milk and stress the word 'collecting info' as much as they can

  • @humortman
    @humortman 4 роки тому +3

    i can't stress this enough, you make amazing videos, man! don't stop please.

  • @waterlubber
    @waterlubber 4 роки тому +11

    If TikTok produces reproducible open-source builds of the client, they could prove it much less of a threat.
    Same goes for most other apps, honestly. There's a lot of dubious stuff running on modern phones.

    • @72dew
      @72dew 4 роки тому +2

      yea you're right, but the ban wasn't because of actual threats, it stems from trade tensions. "National security" is just the excuse

    • @NoobMasterX1
      @NoobMasterX1 4 роки тому

      Android and Chrome still collect your data anyway

    • @TheZachary86
      @TheZachary86 4 роки тому +1

      Sure just lay out your source code for the world to see. why don’t we also ask FB and Google to do the same

  • @benjaminblackwell8829
    @benjaminblackwell8829 4 роки тому +6

    This video is exactly why I think you’re the best creator on UA-cam

  • @lampshade5449
    @lampshade5449 4 роки тому +1

    I love the graphics and animation of your videos 👍

  • @xsraut
    @xsraut 4 роки тому +11

    Tic tok : Gimme ur data
    Me : No 😠
    Google : Gimme ur data
    Me : Noo...??? 🤔
    Google : No. 😡
    Google : Now watch this ad.

  • @akashshukla7033
    @akashshukla7033 4 роки тому +28

    India : banned tiktok because of border tentions with China.
    PolyMatter : india banned tiktok because of user data policies.
    India : YES

    • @AveekKumarSharma
      @AveekKumarSharma 4 роки тому +1

      Actually FIR was filed against TikTok in 2019 and investigation was going on since 2019.

    • @BigBoss-ps6vk
      @BigBoss-ps6vk 4 роки тому +1

      Ritu Sharma yup “national security” few days after border clash

  • @amoghbansal9980
    @amoghbansal9980 3 роки тому +1

    I love this channel thx a lot

  • @colonelkk
    @colonelkk 4 роки тому +163

    *When you can’t decide between the new polymatter video and the new wendover documentary*

    • @not_nsl2572
      @not_nsl2572 4 роки тому

      Yes

    • @Bromoteknada
      @Bromoteknada 4 роки тому +2

      Wendover is random

    • @Snp2024
      @Snp2024 4 роки тому +5

      Suffering from success 🤦

    • @TapDat52K
      @TapDat52K 4 роки тому +2

      Wendover? Now i have a new person to search for.

    • @kirrapeterson845
      @kirrapeterson845 4 роки тому +6

      @@TapDat52K you're in for a treat

  • @AdwinLauYuTan
    @AdwinLauYuTan 4 роки тому +14

    I know about that untrustworthiness. I am considered untrustworthy because I am Chinese. My family is from Taiwan. And I identify as Singaporean. I hate geopolitics like this.

    • @BSKX17
      @BSKX17 4 роки тому

      you are talking about racism. the distrust towards china is because china is a brutal dictatorship.

    • @BigBoss-ps6vk
      @BigBoss-ps6vk 4 роки тому +1

      Silent Sahara on the other hand “bringing freedom” means mass bombing of Middle East

    • @BSKX17
      @BSKX17 4 роки тому

      @@BigBoss-ps6vk don't get me started on that war criminal walking free.

  • @colinz226
    @colinz226 4 роки тому +6

    Gonna be honest, a requirement to disclose the details and inner workings of these big social media apps would be extremely good.
    It saddens me how unlikely it is.

  • @aprilnya
    @aprilnya 4 роки тому +8

    TikTok gets banned for stealing your user data
    Facebook: *chuckles* I'm in danger

    • @Joeiscoll
      @Joeiscoll 4 роки тому

      Daniel11420 All the Karen’s. I need to find a a need home

    • @杨子超-k7u
      @杨子超-k7u 4 роки тому

      You viewers all don’t understand this ban. It’s a political move sponsored by Facebook. Facebook will never be banned even if it collects tons of your data as it is a big supporter for republican

    • @secretlol69
      @secretlol69 4 роки тому

      杨子超 👌

    • @protractorahelicopter1742
      @protractorahelicopter1742 4 роки тому

      @@杨子超-k7u false, a lot of conservative groups on Facebook are being censored

    • @max-hm8yq
      @max-hm8yq 4 роки тому

      Tik tok very bad

  • @OdysseyTag
    @OdysseyTag 4 роки тому +14

    Stunning take on the Tik Tok situation. It's a great measure to be unbiased when touching on this. At it's core, every concern raised about this app is warranted - doesn't take away from how rare and impressive it is to see a non-US startup dominate the social-video app segment in such a short amount of time.

    • @griffon3226
      @griffon3226 4 роки тому

      OdysseyTag Yeah it’s more with the community though, once you download the app you either immediately uninstall it or become brainwashed and are on it 8 hours a day.

  • @Stradious
    @Stradious 4 роки тому +3

    Your thumbnail game is on point!

  • @Aryen567
    @Aryen567 4 роки тому +45

    The government and big tech: the people too powerful
    *A year later*
    The people and big tech: government too powerful
    *A year later*
    The government and the people: big tech too powerful

  • @OPM6906
    @OPM6906 4 роки тому +14

    As a business owner, I really feel bad for Yiming.

  • @jesse7631
    @jesse7631 3 роки тому +4

    I used to think Facebook was the worst thing ever invented in history. Now, it's TikTok.

  • @XSpImmaLion
    @XSpImmaLion 4 роки тому +16

    Great arguments, particularly the last part.
    I'll just add something that perhaps people don't realize much.
    It is indeed particularly troubling the recent actions from PCR regarding respect to individual privacy, freedom of speech, and the whole surveillance thing, as well as potential state sponsored cyber attacks, and it is a main reason to worry.
    But something people have to understand that this is in no way exclusive to China, including there governmental provisions that forces private companies to handle user data of the government or justice system requires them to.
    It becomes a matter of how many powers are involved in requests, and how transparent the government is about it's actions.
    I mean, it should be obvious to americans by now, but apparently not many people connect the dots. The Snowden revelations, plus Wikileaks, and several attempts by american politicians to weake or create encryption backdoors - all of these effectivelly partially did what the government and people are so paranoid of PRC doing - mass surveillance on private data, including that of citizens, politicians, military and whatnot from other countries.
    The only real difference I see is that one country is declared in it's intentions, and the other does it under the guise of defence or policying, with similar results.
    And I don't think many americans actually believe that mass surveillance stopped with Snowden revelations andnother scandals. People just accepted this new reality and decided not to take much further action.
    Particularly on apps like Tik Tok, if you think about the scope of the service and what it can potentially harvest regarding private data, you are bound to understand that the harm the app can do with data collected is far lower than what companies like Facebook, Google, Amazon and Microsoft can do. And you know that all of those 4 companies are directly linked to previous cases of leaks, mass data selling, insecure handling of private data, and whatnot.
    The damage regarding privacy that american companies have caused to americans, including mishandling of extremely sensitive information, extremely private and personally identifying data, is so extensive that really, private chinese companies don't even need to go as far as being obliged to hand their data to PRC in order for them to fet what they want. From Equifax leaks, to entire hospitals databases getting into the wild, to sensitive military and politicians data getting out, what more do you really need? For mass surveillance, not much. For targetted attacks, there are better, faster, cheaper and more effective ways to get to it.
    I mean, when you have young adults and teens managing to attack something like Twitter as an almost free for all thing, really, do you think blocking stuff from entire countries really do much other than a trade war and economic losses for all countries involved? What really needs to be done, and security experts have been saying this for the beter part of the past decade, is that we need to create steps, strategies and put up policies to streghten security.
    What is the point of restricting access to foreign software and hardware when internal practices are so poor that anyone can hack systems developed internally?
    Huawei is a particularly eggregious example. There is no evidence of foul play, and if anything it'd be far better in the long run to let them operate partially with american or western developed os and software, as long as all os and software are being activelly vetted and secured by local communities, experts and whatnot.
    Instead, blocking companies like that, leads to a situation of ultimately restricting choice, creating a wall, and letting systems be developed internally by China for China and other countries, which will happen because China is just too big a market to be left out. When Google and Android loses grip on chinese smartphone market, then you are losing yet another leverage right there, for nothing. The further China isolates itself from western countries, the worse it gets.
    Because the people there are going nowhere, China will continue being the most populous country by far and the second largest economy in the world for a very long time, if it doesn't jump to first.
    Most of people who thinks these measures are effective probably don't understand China on an even basic level. It's size, it's reach, how dependent of it we all are, how far it's economy reaches globally, how much leverage it has against countries like the US. Better to start getting this fast and in a hurry before you get caught with your pants down.

    • @lycanite7886
      @lycanite7886 4 роки тому +4

      @@GBR9794 You do realize that the whole "founded by freedom" rhetoric is ironic, right? The USA was founded by European colonialism and was later utilized for property leverage and resourcing. And said land was tribal owned, but European colonialists didn't care and instead employed genocide. This land has never been "the land of the free", and no I'm not a CCP apologist nor an SJW for thinking such lol.

    • @veryseggs510
      @veryseggs510 4 роки тому

      Lycanite so basically both country’s are equally bad?

    • @davidec.4021
      @davidec.4021 3 роки тому

      Very well put. Feels bad when adults argue about “who is bad” and “who is good” like 8 year olds.

  • @IllusiveDude
    @IllusiveDude 4 роки тому +46

    "Tik Tok will keep you entertained for how many hours you allow it" Thats why I dont use it lol

    • @wren_.
      @wren_. 4 роки тому +1

      Do you want a cookie?

    • @IllusiveDude
      @IllusiveDude 4 роки тому +4

      @@wren_. tities

    • @shoobz3866
      @shoobz3866 4 роки тому

      just go on r/porn or r/hentai, or find a discord server to accommodate your needs

  • @kursatemekse9737
    @kursatemekse9737 4 роки тому +36

    Mistakes make you stronger
    Zhang yimings Parents: 💪

  • @arshjafri5112
    @arshjafri5112 4 роки тому +22

    Fun drinking game: take a shot everytime he says China

    • @林振华-t4v
      @林振华-t4v 4 роки тому +2

      You are going to get drunk within an hour. Lol

    • @fromfareast3070
      @fromfareast3070 4 роки тому +1

      @@林振华-t4v 18 minutes exacly ;)

    • @janagandu1233
      @janagandu1233 4 роки тому +2

      @@林振华-t4v are you Chinese? good to have you man, i saw the 3rd Chinese on the global internet, YES!

    • @fromfareast3070
      @fromfareast3070 4 роки тому

      @@janagandu1233 so I am..XD but i tend to use English name...cause.. reasons

    • @cashmoney2159
      @cashmoney2159 3 роки тому

      @@fromfareast3070 that's an indian account not Chinese 😂

  • @arifs9739
    @arifs9739 4 роки тому +9

    17:11 "If youre watching this video, youre clearly interested in tech and motivated to learn on your own". HMMM

  • @MastaJProductions
    @MastaJProductions 4 роки тому +1

    Ay bother I know you won't read this, but I just want to say, this video is brilliant. Fantastic research and delivery. You're reporting style is inspiring. It's not biased and you offer a solution. Seriously the best video explaining what banning Tik Tok means and how it could affect us. Thank you for taking the time to put this out, its a well researched and thought out video.

  • @mjbgames4963
    @mjbgames4963 4 роки тому +16

    China: Bans Facebook
    India: Bans TikTok
    China: *surprised pikachu face*

  • @dwnturn
    @dwnturn 4 роки тому +20

    Finally, some good news

  • @superhelcher4735
    @superhelcher4735 2 роки тому +2

    Everyone needs to file a complaint with the CA Attorney general to get them to do something about TikTok’s fraud practices of purposely banning people to keep from having to pay them and also file a complaint with the BBB.

  • @izzatihassan1475
    @izzatihassan1475 4 роки тому +7

    Summary: tiktok is accused of taking user data, which a bunch of other social media apps also does in impunity.

  • @EgnachHelton
    @EgnachHelton 4 роки тому +5

    Remember, the biggest irony of Tiktok is that Tiktok and 抖音 are not the same. If you have a Chinese sim card, you cannot use the international version of the Tiktok.

  • @センナ-h4c
    @センナ-h4c 4 роки тому +1

    This guy should be on national TV, his points are quite neutral rather than hating on specific group of people for no reason

  • @Bisquick
    @Bisquick 4 роки тому +9

    0:50 HIS WIFE IS A HIGH HEEL SHOE?!

  • @GauravSharma-dy8xv
    @GauravSharma-dy8xv 4 роки тому +12

    3:37 YOU SURE ABOUT THAT??

  • @ejoshcoron
    @ejoshcoron 4 роки тому

    This is astonishingly well presented and explained. Well done

  • @surajkumarbehera
    @surajkumarbehera 3 роки тому +5

    Ban tiktok and promote UA-cam shots

  • @dragonfankaz567
    @dragonfankaz567 4 роки тому +3

    Poly, could you do an Apple VS Epic Games Video? I'm aware that there may or may not be enough info to get a 10 minute video, but I think it's a cool topic and seeing as your checklist is:
    A) Apple
    Or B) China
    I think it qualifies. :)

  • @blufilmsesa
    @blufilmsesa 4 роки тому +3

    Facebook:
    -Conveniently produces TikTok clone "Reels" set to launch once TikTok is banned.
    -A company with a very questionable / controversial and much larger data collection history.
    -A growing monopoly in the social media market through app buyouts and feature-copy integration.
    -Monitors keystroke patterns, mouse movements, phone calls, and chat conversations.
    America: "Our data is safe since it's in American hands now".

  • @gargieagnihotri
    @gargieagnihotri 4 роки тому +7

    3:32 isn't TikTok basically the copy of Vine ?

    • @okinawatim3421
      @okinawatim3421 4 роки тому

      I just see Tiktok, Musicaly and Vine the same.
      Basically all of it is a copy, however one made some sort of innovation

  • @ethanhsu8596
    @ethanhsu8596 4 роки тому +4

    “If you’re watching this video you’re probably interested in tech”
    That’s true, but I see poly matter, I click poly matter lol

  • @aarspar
    @aarspar 4 роки тому +1

    Indonesia actually banned TikTok way back in 2018 for "inappropriate content". I wish we banned it for much, much longer, preferably till now.

  • @durg3sh
    @durg3sh 2 роки тому +2

    4:52 can anyone explain what hes talking about here?

    • @flamingbat1139
      @flamingbat1139 2 роки тому +2

      The Great Firewall of China is like a normal firewall on your computer, but on a national level. Anything on the outside the firewall that the government doesn't like can not get in. That is why companies like Google are not allowed into the country, because it would weaken the wall. Think of it like a bubble on the internet.

    • @gyrobox9181
      @gyrobox9181 2 роки тому +1

      He probably means that after India reported that tiktok was stealing data from its user the Chinese government was surprised because it is an expert in censoring and regulating both Chinese and Western media

  • @rafaltruszkowski2751
    @rafaltruszkowski2751 4 роки тому +10

    5:36, China has no Android phones? 0? What's up with that?

    • @raphael9256
      @raphael9256 4 роки тому +1

      I think it's foreign Chinese

    • @hmmm4950
      @hmmm4950 4 роки тому +9

      Google is not operating in China, so it is hard to collect all those data from different app stores in China.

    • @okinawatim3421
      @okinawatim3421 4 роки тому +1

      China has been leaning to use more non android and iOS stuff like Huawei making their own OS

    • @政哥哥-v9h
      @政哥哥-v9h 4 роки тому +2

      In fact, tiktok is an international version, and the data is stored in the United States, while the Chinese version is called Douyin. We can't use tiktok. It's for foreigners. Now it's like a classmate giving you half of the eraser, but you take it away. What a robber

  • @boygenius538_8
    @boygenius538_8 2 роки тому +2

    I’m 19 and had the urge to download this but forced myself not to. Not for privacy reasons but because I don’t need yet another useless time sink.

  • @bazil4146
    @bazil4146 4 роки тому +4

    I wonder why TikTok specifically targeted. There’s all these brands like wechat, sina, baidu, alibaba etc that are all popular Chinese brands, but have operations in the US. It seems strange that they’re talking about banning TikTok and not all the other Chinese brands.

    • @shirleyjiang5071
      @shirleyjiang5071 4 роки тому

      Well, that's going to change pretty soon since I heard that Trump and his administration are eyeing wechat and might ban it.

    • @igirly123
      @igirly123 4 роки тому

      You obviously didn't pay attention to the video

    • @headhunter895
      @headhunter895 4 роки тому

      India banned all Chinese apps. Trump administration praised India for doing it and also suggested Trump to do the same in USA.

  • @magical_catgirl
    @magical_catgirl 4 роки тому +5

    This seems to be the first time I've seen/heard something actually say what this TikTok thing is.

  • @keaixiaomeinv
    @keaixiaomeinv 4 роки тому +2

    Knowing a thing or two about the current events that are unfolding, I must say that this video does a great job of showing both sides of the argument.

  • @mrchirulagaming2771
    @mrchirulagaming2771 4 роки тому +30

    Kids: ruining Trump's rally
    Trump: banning tiktok
    Kids: Wait thats illegal!

    • @PotatoGawds
      @PotatoGawds 4 роки тому +3

      You called it. Tik Tok is getting ready to sue back

    • @santhoshsridhar5887
      @santhoshsridhar5887 4 роки тому +1

      Trump is right in doing it but that doesn't make the US any less anti china.

  • @anandsuralkar2947
    @anandsuralkar2947 4 роки тому +16

    Tiktok ban in india is one of the best things happened this year

    • @blop5925
      @blop5925 4 роки тому

      Yes!!!!

    • @erikeriks
      @erikeriks 4 роки тому

      Yet China banning UA-cam was a disaster and an act against freedom

    • @anandsuralkar2947
      @anandsuralkar2947 4 роки тому

      @@erikeriks yes it was act against freedom.bcz it wasn't threat to the national security.
      While tiktok is threat to personal and national security as..when reverse engineered..
      Its found titktok downloads plugins from internet without phone or u even knowing and that way it gets backdoor while being seen safe by google playstore privacy and sefety policy.
      Tiktok is..worst app to have on your phone..its just straight up malware.
      And tiktok is banned untill they make it an app and not malware which is not the case with youtube facebook or any google service .china banned then just to popularised chinese made apps and force those apps on chinese people by banning every major app not made by china.yes its act against freedom.