Are Headphones Replacing Speakers
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- Опубліковано 8 лис 2022
- In this episode they guys debate if headphones are overtaking speakers. Are studio monitors becoming a thing of the past? Is headphone technology growing? Will headphones find more of a use in the spatial audio world because less people have access to it? Lets find out.
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From a mixing standpoint Studio One 6 is a great DAW. The stock sounds aren't the best, but I use S1 with Arturia V collection and Spectrasonics stuff and I am very happy with it.
Love you guys! Conversations are so good and infectious💜
The Slate VSXs are INCREDIBLE! These grant the stereo separation Devvon spoke about via many virtual environments, as allowing the mixer to reference several playback scenarios such as mix/master studios, cars, clubs and various headphones. (including iPods). As they are standard equipped, the low-end is reproduced nicely due to their patented design. I love them dearly! Thanks so much for the very engaging discussion! Keep at it, please! 😀
I create in Mixcraft 9 Pro Studio most, Ableton second, DP 10 for mixing, just starting to get back into ProTools. Also for mixing, headphones w/ Sonarworks SoundID Reference are what I have been leaning on. I make final adjustments on speakers afterwards to confirm what I heard inSonarworks.
Yes, Studio One! We in here!!!
Aaayyyeeee!!! 😂
Bout time 💪🏽
Here here! We need Studio One gang up on the table yo!
We actually need studio one on the table
Great video, entertaining as always! My favorite tags gotta be Wheezy and Southside. Anyway I did feel the need to comment this (Devvon you actually pointed this out at 22:07 indirectly, though I'm not sure if it was your intention) but headphones are actually NOT Stereo. They are Binaural, because each ear is only getting one channel. The Left channel is going to the left ear, and the Right channel is going to the right ear. When listening on speakers (studio monitors), you are listening in Stereo because each ear is ofc hearing both channels, AND the phase differences along with them. So if there's a single thing that "should" always be done on speakers it's panning/stereo imaging & placement imo
I’m going to investigate this more
@@HelpMeDevvon I mean I was kinda wrong lol bc binaural is still a form of stereo, but it is different tho
I love these guys!!! Super dope individually, and super dope collectively. No luv for Reason but this podcast is A1 fr fr.
I'd like to hear y'all's thoughts on what studio one could implement to make y'all switch.
The switch for me was a no-brainer cuz I came from audition. But there's definitely some things in the other DAWS I would like to see like ableton's live looping capabilities.
Did you guys tried the Audeze LCD-X for mixing?
I learned studio one because it was clean and not a lot of people used it. I started making beats on fruity loops and I learned to mix on pro tools. But studio one is the daw for me. The one up pro tools has on studio one is the stock plugins. And fl studio just makes beats hit harder it's the soft clipper
I have the nuraphones (the over-ear with built in buds). The stereo image is probably the best that I’ve heard from closed-back headphones
The sub frequencies are incredible, but the whole frequency curve is processed and therefore far from flat.
They’re not useful for mixing, but manage to be very impressive as consumer grade headphones.
And as of now, atmos still sounds weak with them. Idk how to really get an atmos sound without an atmos system.
we gotta get that behringer demo
Monitors and rooms go hand and hand. The name of the game is translation. Mixing on 1 mixcube in mono, then switching to monitors, then referencing in headphones has yielded me the best results so far. Id love if there was a pair of headphones that translated. Id do it soley in them, but I haven't found headphones that can do that yet.
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I was WAITING for a Behringer comment and LJ did not disappoint 🤣 36:43
Lmaooooo
I'm a hobby mixer and I don't have any sort of treated room. I spend a good bit of money and bought some Austrian Audio HiX65 headphones and instantly my mixed went to the next level.
So if you're someone who is stuck recording and mixing on headphones, spend the money on the best studio monitoring headphones you can get. It's absolutely worth it.
Due to my room design my mixes out of my monitors/sub don’t translate. When I bought my Neumann NDH 30s my mixes started translating on any setup I played my music on. Them open backs give me the fell of being in a room listening to the mix! Cost me a pretty penny but best money I spent for my setup!
New topic ... do we have too many options with gear/plugins for mixing and making music in general 🤔..example some of the greatest sounding music ever made was done with less ..so do we have too many tools..??
9:02 how tf you nailed that so perfectly damn
My dream headphones are ones Devvon used to have when doing cover songs back in the days😍
Also Charlie Heat got so many dope nest tags! Like 4 different ones
i got an idea for a one gotta go with eqs F6 Dynamic Eq,Fabfilter Pro -Q 3 and SSL E-Channel
we already know devvon is choosing the pro q 3 to stay
What do u think about the legendary senhiser hd6xx
Dope Pod! It Ended Super Abruptly lol but Still 🔥
“I um i um …wow…that thats od” nah fr i felt that Court lmaooo
i use reaper daw with headphones but nothing beats some nice speakers to check out the final product 🔥🔥🔥
same, i love reaper
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Do a tutorial on how to set up your fireface 400
The old tag “holy shit where’d you find this” for lil Wayne mixtapes back in the day
the thing is most ppls rooms aren’t treated right for monitors. it’s easier to hear all the frequencies in a consisant way like for when you’re referencing
22:32 i mix with one headphone on so i can reference both the monitors and headphones at the same time. It’s more of a focus thing ig
Also high end convertors vs budget, eg lavary vs mbox
I be feelin the Migos DJ’s tag “DJ Darell!!”
Don Corleone ...Huge catalog... Big mon here in Jamaica
4:31 Thank you guys for mentioning Ryan Leslie because he doesn't get enough recognition. The guy is dope. The man is amazing!
That’s a fact
I don’t have enough space in my environment, so my open back DT-990 PROs are all I have to use right now. Bounce back and forth between the car and home theater system to check the bass. Take a listen on the laptop and cell phone as well for comparison with other records, but the headphones are my mix HQ. 🤷🏾♂️
Smart move!
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@@PRIDEATH I'm really serious
that Ayo n Keyz "HOL UP!" tag is incredibly underrated
Using a system like slate VSX, or a comparable sim software like real monitor (not nx, not good at all imo) it totally has changed my perspective of how feasible it is to get a good mix out of headphones. Not to mention it gives me the ability to mix anywhere with a laptop. It takes a bit of time to get used to but it’s absolutely worth it. After about 10 minutes I forget I’m wearing headphones and the low end response is so much better than I ever imagined it being. My best mixes have been made on this system, look into it Devvon it’s a game changer .
NX is alright, although it does seem to come in 2nd Place. But $30 for an NX plugin vs. $480 for Slate definitely skewed my decision. Definitely wanna try Slate soon though.
@@djlucasd I think the key to slates version being so good is the headphones. Not the biggest fan of hardware-dependent software, but imo unless you have a ton of well placed treatment and very solid monitors (which is not an option for a lot of us), VSX will give you a more accurate assessment than your room will. Not to mention having the different emu’s like the cars. Blew my mind…when I loaded my mix into the G Wagon simulation and was able to make minor adjustments to my drum levels in order for it to be just right in that sim… it absolutely slapped in every real car system I tried it on. I really do believe it’s a game changer for feasibly mixing in any environment you find yourself needing to mix in.
l jean hair be lookin fire af too tf frfr no 🧢
“Hit boy” goes super hard on every song
Best producer tag Justice League
which sony headphones he talking about ?
Not LJ saying I would try a Behringer Mic"😂😂😂😂 and Devvon just ended it because he knew what was coming after
Will you ever have guests, and also your views on what is the best vocal chain?
Yes guest are coming
You guys are hilarious..lol ..I would love to tap in on a zoom call
What’s the best headphones to mix in if you don’t have monitors or a treated room?
Audio technica m50x
Actually, not AirPods, but I have been to a party with all headphones lol. You forgot about those silent party huh lol
Custom IEMs have the best stereo image when it comes to mixing with headphones in my opinion! 🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
I’m a Ableton user. If I switch to another Daw it would be Cubase. Don’t think Cubase gets enough love.
Because it in fact does not get enough love... Cubase is fucking GOATED!!! especially Cubase 12
Im Logic Pro X user, but if I ever switched it would be Cubase.
Don't forget about the Tags that arnt Tags, hearing Wheezy's VOX is a certified tag at this point. or Even Drake using the Biggy Vox "SIXXX" . And lets not forget about KY Engineering the rare moment when the engineer was putting his tag in songs
Leslie B is amazing. He makes the small details pop
He’s incredible
Yo, Protools is not Kanye. Kanye was still using MPC’s and he was an underdog in the industry til his break. If anything he’d probably be Ableton. Weird, sophisticated, forward-thinking, hard to comprehend. If not Ableton, he’s GarageBand. Lol
Re: Producer Tags - When Michael Jackson said “Darkchild” though…
Broooooo fr
the 1st segment is hilarious🤣🤣 Ableton is def Fresh...
Chopsquad dj’s tag is 🔥
The MPC was never mentioned lol...MPC is high key Goated
Devvon, you had me thinking I was pronouncing stuff wrong like “Puig” for example until he said Dolbly Atmos multiple times. Still like the information y’all give tho 👍
I’ve used everything as a producer for 11yrs now engineer for 6yrs…started with GarageBand 😂 my top 5 DAWs are
1. Pro Tools easy
2. Studio One Pro
3. Abelton
4. Logic X
5. Reason/ I used to love FL it was hard just doesn’t offer what I need anymore. It was the crack king and that’s why it’s so popular today. Kids who couldn’t afford it made a living off of it because it was easy to get free.
The best tag is my bro Blais/pronounced blaze He got Mike Tyson to say it. BLITHAAAITHE. During the hotboxin podcast with Bizzy Bone.
Broh... The fact that y'all did not mention Lex Luger's name in producer tags is WILD!
Lol i would never use any Bose or Beats By Dre headphones for audio mixing. I don't need that enhanced bass lying to me lol. But nah, you'd be surprised how low these mix headphones can go. The Sony MDR-7506s was my first pair of headphones to mix in coming out of college. Dem joints BUMP...but when needed. Right now I use the Audio Technica ATH-M50Xs and to me, they sound phenomenal for mixing lol. In all seriousness, anyone could mix on anything ie laptop speakers, small radio, etc(not recommended lol) but you just gotta check your mix on another source like your car(and you gotta know how your car already sounds with other records) in airpods, bluetooth speakers, the speakers from your phone itself or even a home theater system if you have one. A lot of successful engineers use headphones, in the box. But if you got studio monitors, you're always in good shape as long as your room doesn't f*ck it up lol.
I used the M50xs for 3 years, they are good for mixing and niw moved over to HEDDphones and they blow them out the water. Highly recommend for headphone mixers.
@21:27 topic starts
MVP
Who is LMMS then?
Ryan Leslie and J Cole both use Logic …. Teddy Riley uses studio one since they’re inception
maschinegang!!!
Next topic should be " high end audio interface vs budget "
I like this one!
TOTALLY agree! As a person that works at Guitar Center, I’d love to get y’all feedback.
Next topic should be “does velocity matter”
Velocity absolutely matters
Depends on the vst. Some don’t give af about velocity and you gotta automate.
@@ThaRealAbMajor oh I know it matters😂 I jus get stuck on how hard my HH or kicks (etc) should be hitting with velocity I usually do 110 - 120
@@I_Can_Relate Yea bro, it just depends on how you want your drums to sound. When I started sampling and creating Hip Hop drum patterns the rule was to set the velocity to hit like a real drummer as well as setting the time and swing. Lol now everything hits at 127 🤣🤣
Interesting topic!
Now I'm thinking about my Producers Tag :D I think I'd go with Po-Pow :D
justice league tag was it for me
The freestyle
Ryan Leslie is Protools
Kid hazel beat tag crazy
We are on guys
Ya'll forgot about lil jon takeover with ok all over the beats
I love this podcast... but because the nature of the ranting lol, time stamps would be dope
You lot are too cool bros!!!
Yall forgot dark childs tagline
Didn’t flex have a game on ps1 or 2 for making beats
Great episode #teamableton
Oooooooooooooooo OG Parker , Manoooooo , hitmaka…
cannon
Studio one represent
Metro, Wheezy, Tay Kieth, DJ Khalid, Mustard
Yeah nah . I don't think speakers/monitors will ever be replaced . Unfortunately, i don't have the money or space for monitors so I have to mix and make beat on headphones . However, i will test it on whatever source i have to my disposal .. my car, live setting, mono speakers, shitty headphones and high end ones . Sure, it takes me longer to get through one project, but I'd rather do that then put out a garbage product that I hate .
When Jesus says yes nobody can’t say no😂 that entire album is amazing. Believe in me and Yes is probably the best songs off the tape
Logic is Darkchild
or Bryan Michael Cox
“HitMaka”!! “BINK THE HUMBLE MONSTA”! JUSTICE LEAGUE, JUSTICE LEAGUE, JUSTICE LEAGUE, JUSTICE LEAGUE….
I cannot believe y’all didn’t mention “Daytrip take it to ten” smh
Headphones are taking over for sure
Yo did Behringer paid you, it’s in every podcast😂
Hedd Audio Headphones
Bro Scott storch uses logic lol
So we not gonna mention tay keith tag Lol 🤔
I pay for beats and I steal some some times. I agree with yall there's no point in being a petty producer. If I popped contract me and get way more than 40 dollars 😂
Maybach muaic
FL is Brandy❤
Brandy is most def Pro Tools…her vocals are flawless
these producer won't steal your beat from you like that.... they'll remake the beat. NAV said it himself. People will send him beats he likes and hell remake it.
J Cole definitely uses logic
Tay Kieth
Pharell actually uses logic look it up lol