Scathing Grenfell Tower fire report condemns “incompetence”, “dishonesty” and “greed” | BBC News
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- Опубліковано 15 вер 2024
- The deaths of 72 people in the Grenfell Tower fire in London were the result of "dishonest" and “greedy” companies, decades of failure by successive governments, and incompetence and chronic lack of leadership by the fire service, a damning inquiry report has concluded.
The residential high-rise tower block in west London was engulfed by fire in June 2017. Highly-flammable cladding had been installed on the block in a recent renovation.
The report said that all deaths in the fire were "avoidable" and people living in Grenfell Tower were "badly failed" by those responsible for their safety.
The inquiry Chairman Sir Martin Moore-Bick said those involved bore different levels of responsibility, with failings in most cases attributable to “incompetence” while others were due to "dishonesty and greed”.
Manufacturers of the building’s unsafe cladding engaged in "systematic dishonesty", the Chairman said. He also accused them of misleading customers about their products’ safety.
The report found that the fire was preceded by "decades of failure" by the government" and the building industry to act on the known dangers of flammable materials on high-rise buildings.
It also identified a "chronic lack" of leadership at the London Fire Brigade and an "attitude of complacency”.
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No charges until 10 years after the incident. Disgusting
Still no one charged
Cameron should be charged for passing legislation in the Commons that helped to make the fire becoming such an inferno killing most people far more likely.
They were a bit on th the poteo and it always looked like a potato
talk about something else then that matters
@yasintorkman4813 The Hillsborough families had to wait 30 years, the Sailors present at the first nuclear bomb testing were all mostly dead before they had any acknowledgement of wrong doings, also those suffering Gulf War syndrome are told there's no such illness but you'll not give them any sympathy will ya? Because you prefare to be a greasy a*se licker, right?
Seeing all the tory MPs just walk out before Starmer read out the inquiry was disgusting
....ask yourself, how much $ did Tory reps make off of these construction projects
@Lando-kx6so Or maybe they get fed up hearing him constantly appeasing everybody but doing the job his own people elected him to do? Same with the national news who dedicated a full half hour to talking about a fire that has alot of questions that beg answers and everybody knows this!
The core problem is systemic and cross-party.
And it took 7 years to work that out did it? That's discraceful.
@johnriley9742 Look at Ted Bundy, what charges he faced? 2000 volts I heard?🤣
@@andrewisotope8146 You honestly think this is a subject to laugh about? Dick.
@johnriley9742 You do realise it will all be brought to a swift conclusion when it's learned the so called cause of the blaze (an Hotpoint fridge) is exonerated when hard evidence is shown to the court
'A box of fish fingers that's still frozen'
It is a total disgrace that Cameron was proud to cut red tape in terms of health and safety when he was PM.
It was Eric Pickles in charge of dismantling the safety rules. Don't forget that.
Cameron is a disgrace.
@@alanbeaumont4848
Yes, indeed he was.
Imprison the guilty in government and business. Otherwise this report isn't with the millions spent on it.
the rest if the country don't want that
It's a scandal. Total disgrace. How on earth can Cameron and the other government ministers at the time who were responsible for getting the legislation changed thet helped to worsen the fire get away with it by not getting charged.
@@user-wk5mt4ky5f and you represent "the rest of the country"?
it will never happen
@@user-wk5mt4ky5f Yes it does. It's manslaughter, manslaughter is a serious crime. Justice should be blind.
Some people not wanting justice would not and did not say that at the time. The reason many people condemn the delays to justice that such inquiries often cause, is exemplified by your comment.
Should there be a statute limit on how long the clock to a conviction runs, it should start now, not 7 years ago and EVERYONE guilty who hasn't ALREADY accepted their failings, should be given NO reduction for any guilty plea entered henceforth.
If there aren't tens and tens of prosecutions, that itself will be a scandal.
7 years on and the dangerous cladding is *STILL* on various buildings. utterly shameful
Will any anyone be held accountable ?
Public inquiries go on for years in the hope that people will forget and avoid culpability and embarrassing trials.
Same thing will happen with Post Office inquiry.
Was about to type something along these lines.
They won't evsr be held axcountable.
Dany Cotton, the then Commissioner of the London Fire Brigade should get a most dishonourable mention also... The poor decision-making, bad advice, lack of preparedness & zero initiative by LFB that evening was plain to see by all, & Dany's own personal appaling attitude & arrogance after the tragedy should not be forgotten either...
They died because the resident were told to go back into their flats and wait to be rescued.
Yeah i thgt i remd that..and government Oppresser corruption for state of building etc
Exactly
Justice for Grenfell! They are still using this cladding on other buildings! Get rid of it!
Three reasons this happened:
1) Government Corruption
2) Government Corruption
3) Government Corruption
Three reasons no one’s been held accountable thus far:
1) Government Corruption
2) Government Corruption
3) Government Corruption
Now, does anyone have any questions?
You have stated the same reason three times. Why?
Now that was just a rather silly comment wasn’t it.
Because I find it ironic that people are questioning why this happened… Therefore let me make it as obvious as I can. One can blame the contractors all they want, but in the in the end, it’s the governments job to regulate and protect its citizens.
Why did the tenant exit the house leaving fire doors open? If he had closed the fire doors the fire may have been contained or even extinguished itself through lack of oxygen. What started the fire? I’ve heard it was a fridge but it’s more likely that’s an excuse and a late night meal cooking resulted in a fire which wasn’t properly dealt with. That means it wasn’t government corruption.
@@rosariomoschitto4037it’s the tenants responsibility to deal with a fire properly, at least closing fire doors and phoning the fire brigade.
So, everyone knew this the day after it happened? We need a report about the report so we can discuss in about a decade why it took a decade to state the obvious.
Human greed affect safety; safety affect human lives.
We live in a society in which greed is encouraged and allowed to expand unchecked. This is just one of the negative results.
Exactly! Never ever tamper with your electricity meter inorder to steal electric as it puts other residents lives at risk!
@@Ode-to-Odysseus yes, that's why you should vote for me, as a ruler.
250 million on a inquiry, that told us nothing we didn't know already,
After 7 years to complete a report,Starmer now says it will 6 months for the government to respond. Pathetic.
IT DOES NOT TAKE SEVEN YEARS FOR AN ENQUIRY
Really...??? 8 years & waiting for the HSE to release the report & conclusion of what happened at the Didcot Power Station collapse demolition accident....
Everyone is guilty...so NO ONE IS GUILTY.
Justice delayed is Justice denied
This should not happen
'Incompetence, dishonesty and greed', the hallmarks of the British Establishment, if not British society as a whole. Not likely to change any day soon.
Atrocious, appalling and disgusting. The way that buildings have been built over the decades is despicable as is the maintenance, materials used and poor safety. Most people that died at Grenfell didn't stand a chance and their life was taken through incompetence,and corruption. Rest in peace.
@deluxewaterless7229 The alleged cause of the fire was an 'Hotpoint refrigerator' maybe it was 'a far right fridge?'
Occupants are being asked to pay to replace cladding that should have been done properly in the first place that's outrageous, 10 years on and still living in future death traps
Will Theresa May and David Cameron be called to account?
people need to be jailed for life for this
Why aren't we hearing about the foreign resident who simply walked out of his flat when it caught fire, leaving the door open and not dialing 999?
Pretty sure they said the opposite of this lol. He walked out and called emergency services and filmed the fire too. He probably didn’t expect it to spread and thought the firefighters would be there soon
He didn’t - the fire spread through the window and up the external cladding, which you would know if you payed any attention.
Developers are the single biggest lobby group who have spent the most on political spending in the UK for at least a decade. These are the consequences
Flammable cladding, what can go wrong...
Strange, no mention of the money grabbing lobbyist Cameron.
Justice for systemic failure should come in the form of significant monetary compensation. Unless laws were clearly broken, which it doesn't seem to be the case, going after contractors and consultants, is merely passing the buck from govt responsibility, to regulate construction for the safety of the populace.
No, people need to be locked up. Money comes and goes but time does. It will be a massive industry change when they release they can't just pay their way out of a problem.
That block was burnt by design no way can a whole building burn like that.......
Fires could happen, that's why there is the firebrigade. But imflammable materials allowed to be used on high-rise apartment buildings, that's criminal.
you mean flammable materials?
@perlasandoval7883 don't be so picky, you knew what he meant.
Grow up man.
PM's apology means .....farrrrrrrT!
At least he apologised while the Tories didn't even feel having to attend the session
@@maximusg88fuq em all the heartless swines😮
Working in the UK public sector I'm not surprised at all that incompetence, corner cutting and greed played a role here - and that ALL involved parties failed. One party I didn't hear about was the council... I'm sure they also had a part to play
Its not just greed cost cutting etc..EveryOne Knows It was Straight up Oppression And mayb firedept ordered Tenants to stay in Their Flats until Rescued which IF SO Was Wrong and Tenants Most probly wldve All Got Out Easy during early stages of fire..ordered to wait For A Long Time until fire was massive..pretty sure thats what happened As thats stuck with me..
@@stefanroberts9658 I think under normal circumstances that might actually be the safest way to deal with it - but the cladding caught fire. Surely, it is not as easy as blaming a single party for everything here. They all failed.
@@maximusg88 The Oppressers etcs conditions of The Building and if the firedept ordered Tenants to wait in Their Homes to be rescued in early stages of fire Until fire was massive were responcible Yeah
Mayor Boris Johnson cut vital fire services and firefighting equipment near Grenfell tower itself he has blood on his hands
Weird that this Tower didn't collapse like the buildings at the world trade center, even though the Grenfell fire burned far longer.🙄
No it isn't since it's of a completely different design and didn't have an airliner crash into it at 500 miles an hour you fukkin numpty
LOL, weird that conspiracy theorists think they know anything about anything...
@@user-ib9qt8vl9h no it isn't weird since it is of a completely different design and didn't have a huge airliner crash into it at 500mph
@@jedaaa neither did building 7, and those trade center buildings were way stronger because they were far heavier, but ok
@user-ib9qt8vl9h sorry mate but you have a child's understanding of physics and architecture, the WTC had a steel truss design, ( the first and only one in the world) meaning the inside of the building was suspended upon and depended upon the outside frame of trusses, once the plane hit most of that was destroyed, meaning fire or no fire, it was coming down no matter what, just a matter of time, Grenfell was a traditional steel cage concrete design, those buildings never collapse due to fire, there has never been one single instance of it anywhere on the planet ever. That's why it's not weird that it didn't collapse . You've had 23 years to find this out, but you'd rather subscribe to silly ideas You've read about in the most uneducated corners of the Internet. Congratulations
Sir Nick Clegg and Lord David Cameron, are you sleeping soundly in your beds tonight? The residents of Grenfell Tower should have been able to sleep safely
You missed out "hostile environment for migrants Theresa May".
Also has blood in her hands.
Sums up this country nicely
"sumps"
Well, at least we finally now have a leader in office whose word is his bond. Oh, wait...
Why hasnt the tower been demolished or refurbished? Its been 7 years since this happened. Surely investigators have had enough time to complete their investigation no?
Why did the fridge catch fire?
Good question, that should never happen. The short circuit should blow a fuse long before this happens. Because otherwise any electric device is a potential fire hazard.
Did it? More likely to be a late night kitchen fire.
@@alexbowman7582Does it matter? Fires will always happen. Buildings need to be designed to contain them.
@@digitig Fire prevention is a very important part of buiding design. So yes, it matters a lot. Thats why many very old buildings are still safe to live in, although they are mainly built with wood as the primary construction material.
@@ageoflove1980in fact, any electrical device is a fire hazard. You can't prevent all electrical fire, they will happen.
All responsible, should go to prison, for a long time
I STILL can’t believe 72 died in this very sad. … Requiescat en Pace
Sir Martin Moore - Bick kept his word he gave to the survivors seven years ago that this enquiry under him would not be a cover up or whitewash although it has taken seven long years. Brent Collins.
Gotta wait until 2026 after 7 years?!? 😢
Two tier justice
There are so much greed in the construction business
And I don’t know why these beautiful people were asked to stay inside the building?
This is what happens when council's and the government of the day make cutbacks as I understand these tower blocks was put up in the 60s as only temporary accommodation I'm surprised they are still up today
Life behind bars
They do this because they want to be rehoused.
In another graveyard? Most have perished.
You just wait until the actual truth comes out because there is more to the story than people really know... Grenfell is and was a spiderweb of circumstances and issues dating back as far as 2014...
True that, and it's all been documented by a resident of Grenfell.
He was just passed from pillar to post, and then....
Corporate greed is deadly, yet it thrives globally.
Madness!
@@tabazan9182 It's a very sad situation... Being there myself when it occurred still doesn't sit right with me... Heads will roll big time when the actual truth comes out and so they should!
Where dozens of companies, with hundreds of employees, government with hundreds of thousands and local authorities with thousands, all changing jobs it takes TIME to track them all down and get their stories. While everyone knew the typical failings involved exactly who, what and why were needed in detail. Heads should now roll, laws must change, there must be qualified, experienced Inspectors with real, enforceable powers who are themselves checked by independent watchers.
ALL our agencies with watching briefs... Ofwat, etc... need to be given real teeth and not dental implants designed by the subjects of their observation... the profit-driven industries.
What about the actual fire starter surely he or her is the incompetent one
It was a fire from an electrical fault in the fridge, and the owner of the flat was asleep when it happened. He did the right thing by calling the fire department and warning his neighbours. If the tower had been built with safety in mind, no one would have died from this.
My understanding of Health and Safety law is that a prosecution can be made on the risk, not just the outcome. As a result, any building with dangerous cladding is worth the Health and Safety Executive looking into, in my view.
So whats going to change now?.
Do you think anyone will ever appear in court for this….we,ll see..
2:28 Ahhh so after 7 years we have no one to blame... move on etc... Neither left nor right... move on.... Typical.
In fairness - reality is usually not that easy
Noone going to apologise for blaming the fire service? Noone going to highlight that fire proof cladding would have cost £4000-£6000 more for the entire building? That the council inspected its own building for fire safety after the fire service had the role taken from them by the govt? That the fire service wasnt equipped for high rises because rich people dont live in them?
Pretty sure firedept ordered Tenants to Stay in Their Homes until rescued During early stages of fire and for a long time until fire was most of building..Surely EveryOne Cld Of Evacuated The Building In Early Stages of fire OtherWise..
Absolutely shocking, due to the corruption there will never be accountability
nobody is charged at all except some people who were pretending they lived in there.
The greedy is the needy
Seven year enquire to call it a system failure nobody will go to prison
I'm so shocked by this revelation
Oh well.
That is government for you. Incompetence, dishonesty, and greed.
So so boring
So are you going to refund all the people who paid a premium for PI insurance as a result of this?
All those involved are in Powerful Positions. Time this Government insisted People are charged with Crimes.
Dushusting.
Wearing astro turf is mad
So, as usual, capitalism is to blame
If people caused this, they would be imprisoned, because government and companies caused it no justice!
I hope the timing of the report didn’t clash with Lord Lardarse’s lunch…. He is a very busy man!
Shake the hand in a secret way and you get the contract. Is the secret organisation mentioned in the report?
My comment is how much has this report and investigation cost. If that sort of money was provided at the onset it would have surely paid for a combustible free insulation. It seems that in modern practices we are more interested in blaming than actually avoiding issues by doing the ccorect methods. From memory any materials used in buildings used to be overseen by trained fire officers but these were dispensed and self certification used instead. With obvious consequences.
Lets have some justice for once
I don’t know what happened, I don’t believe it was a fridge fire, more likely a late night cooking fire. I’ve heard the tenant then left leaving the fire doors open. If true then leaving the fire doors open would have made the fire spread faster and closing the fire doors may have put the fire out or made it smoulder for longer.
the fire doors cannot be left open they close by themselves! the fire spread upwards through the windows onto the cladding on the outer walls of the building.
It was a fridge fire, the tenant called 999 and left as instructed by the dispatch.
Why do people make opinionated comments in ignorance when the information is freely available. What a disgusting comment, Alex.
@@judewarner1536 the tenant was partly to blame.
72????? Really?
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Blatant arson.
Why did the African minicab driver have his family away and his bags packed outside, before he asked his neighbours to call the fire brigade? I saw on the BBC something about a fridge igniting?
Maybe he was responsible for starting it, so wanted to get tf outta there?🤷♀️
Bruh! Are u 4 real?
@@OutpostTen Source? It was on the news at the time, don't you have a memory?
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This tower had almost all of them were black and brown people
Only took 7 yrs wow to come up with the news wow wow wow
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Blaming the LFB for any of this is the weakest of all claims and shameful when Kingspan made false claims about their Claddings fire rating
Not a mention of the guy in flat 16 where the fire started subletting rooms in his flat thereby having two fridge freezers and a fridge in a small kitchen for his extra tenants. Half a dozen of the victims aren't even identified because they council didn't know who they were the reason being they were sub let tenants. The entire thing stinks of third world overcrowding because that's what London is taking on, a third world persona.
The guy was absolved, also, he apparently did exactly what the fire notices by every lift in the building said to and had only the clothes he stood in, not even shoes. The only personal posession he had on him was the phone HE CALLED 999 with.
Grow up your telling lies.
@tabazan9182
I've read Behailu Kebedes statement to the enquiry. it's all true. He was subletting his flat and had two fridge freezers and a fridge in his small kitchen, one of which was against a window, the one that caught fire. These would have come from Joe's junk shop down the road and an accident waiting to happen.
@@PirateCommander
This disaster happened because councils are unable to keep with the demand for housing due to uncontrolled immigration especially in London. The fabric of the city is falling apart, that's the truth of the matter. Corners are cut and standards are dropping because of demand. Subletting is the norm in these council properties and fire precautions becoming third world.
@@weshardin6609 Have it your way, you must be right as you said 'immigration' eh ?
Nothing to do with the local snobs wanting something cosmetic done to it so they didn't be offended too much by it being there ?
Nothing to do with anything but immigration ? The only thing here that's entirely due to immigration is your not bothering to inform yourself before commenting.
I suppose the Fire Service having no ladders high enough being an immediate evacuation indicator and the cladders having concealed the nature of risk so that incorrect existing evacuation urgency was effected is the immigrants faults eh ? FFS.
I have nothing more to discuss, you're obviously misguidedly aggrieved and I'm not wasting my time educating anyone that shallow.
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How many sub let's did they find.
And this has what to do with cladding.
@@InAMinMaths people died that shouldn't have been in the property in the first place, this could have prevented more deaths.
Babylon system huh?@duttybayblon system
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No people with money think everyone else wants it also 😅
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No charges Post Office Scandal! People knowingly and willingly sent people to their demise!
Couldn't imagine the guilt the person that started it must feel...
Cameron weakened health and safety legislation before the flammable cladding that got installed in the tower block before the fire.
It could have heppened anywhere.
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I'd rather listen to the train in the background rather then wearing ur nonsense
It's the government's fault
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Luckily the residents were not of British origin
With only about 11 tenants outta 600 were UK born, it gives you a good idea who will be allocated all the new housing that's planned don't it?
Why? Because they won't riot with white stuff in their nose?
@@andrewisotope8146 Of course it does especially under Labour the British people will be firmly at the back of the queue not only for housing but also healthcare and benefits this is why they’re now targeting British pensioners.
Dude, people died. Who cares about your political belief, you're a horrible person for commenting that.
British greedy millionaires are the reason these people died, but you wouldn't care
What a bigoted thing to say, are you joking or not?