Church is what taught me to be open to everybody. Wow, was I duped! It left me open to being destroyed by giving people the benefit of the doubt and being forgiving and trying to be so giving. Those things can be good but nobody ever said it was ok to set a boundary because they themselves wanted sheep they could control and the whole damn place was run by wolves. I kept trusting for years until I woke up destroyed for the last time and realized I needed to rally my inner strength and put a stop to that shit from every cluster B around me! I'm now closed until people earn my trust. I'll be friendly on the surface but nobody is getting in my inner circle until proven trustworthy of that honor.
Fabled Creature Your story is exactly the same as mine. Keep on healing, I was in terrible shape when I left but I am strongest Ive been in my whole life now. Just keep doing the work on yourself. It gets better.
Fabled Creature and mis hill ...Me to. I was in a church from 13 to 27 and even married within there and I have been trying to understand what happened to me. I'm 33 and only now things are being revealed. I'm creating boundaries and my second church I started going to when I was 27 till now I have cut off. Left the ministry because know one believed me and so much subtle openings for a abuse. Those situations I caught myself in was feeling uncomfortable I realised those were warning signs of subtle abuse which later when get higher in ministry they own you.
Fabled Creature I had a totally different church experience. I was taught to trust my discernment and be wary of the company I keep. I was also taught that you should love everyone but that didn't mean they belong in your life as a key player. Unfortunately I was already with the narc prior to learning this but I credit this awareness with what I learned at church. It was the unrealistic romance novels I read as a girl that had me believing in dysfunction. I stopped reading that mess in my 20s.
Don't they just Love an empath! Tough changing to be less openly visible to them but I have had to as at the end:-....everywhere they were- even getting out the lift there'd be one! It feels demonic at times for me. I use Ephesians now:the whole armour of God.
"Compassion is for everyone, compassion and love have no boundaries.This sort of bullshit is taught in a lot of spiritual and religious institutions" ....and it's gonna set you up for abuse. THANK YOU Meredith ! I wish someone could have warned me before I learned this lesson the hard way !
The person I was discarded by is a youtuber so I occasionally get the urge to click on his videos when I’m feeling weak. The last time I did that I clicked the video at a random time and he said “I’m glad you got your fingers burned.” I had just burnt my finger the night before. Also hear him say random words or sentences like “banjo,” “flip a coin,” “ren means name,” and he’ll actually say them in a livestream. Things that are too specific to be just a coincidence. I’ve sometimes texted words to myself prior to watching to prove it to myself that I’m not going crazy. Really good video, thank you.
Sometime a worse problem is dealing with OTHER spiritual people (friends and associates, usually) that don't understand- or haven't recognized, because they are enablers of- NPD, when they see you walk away from the Narcissist and give you a bunch of "spiritual" judgements about how you're not being forgiving, setting boundaries is setting "limitations on love," or that you're "putting expectations" on the person, and that your righteous, valid anger us "unspiritual." You will never convince them that they don't know what the hell they're talking about- thus in my experience you sometimes have to walk away from even personal contacts that may not have had a relationship with the Narc if they are being obstructions to your recovery.
Absolutely! I found I had to leave EVERYONE that was friends/family with the narc. But I didn't care. My peace and my well being and my kids and my family and the people who love me deserve to have me. Just think of all the people YOU lost by trying to make that piece of shit narc happy 24/7.
My ex narcissist was incredibly psychic about what I was thinking and we would actually each night have sessions where he would tell me exactly what I had been thinking about. Or he would mention dreams he had where "someone" was with him in a way that I had been thinking about. He was completely in touch with my thoughts, and even told me about past things in my life I had never told him about, mostly the bad things I had done no one knew about! I just thought he was incredibly psychic but now I think it was demonic. Yes the back of my scalp itches since I met him.
I read where this woman said the spirit that makes people a narc goes back and forth between you and the narc sharing who you are and giving the narc information about your deepest desires and insecurities. This is why they know how to lovebomb you so good and also what to do to hurt and trauma bond you.
Beautiful Love Yes! My sperm donor did that all the time! I thought I was crazy until he starting saying things that made me realize I wasn’t. He Hoover’s now on a psychic level. It’s tormenting. I kept hearing him telling me he was married in my head and heart. Sure enough, he had gotten married!
Quiche Lorraine I’m okay. I don’t want him back but the psychic attacks do continue. I think this is mostly due to his new supply not giving him attention. One way or another I will find away to discontinue this spiritual link between us. I
@@lisatryme3518 wow! mine would always leave and come back. I believe I was his greatest supply. I heard him say to me the other day he was tired of this new supply and he is ready to come back and get me and I actually started imagining us being together again but then I snapped out of it. The pull they have on us is strong. I pray when the psychic hoovers come because I will never let him hurt me again. It gets worst every time you take them back. It's spiritual warfare and I know it because I use to be strong but I'm getting it back slowly. It's been a year since I broke lose. Another thing I want to tell you is don't masturbate thinking about them, when the urge comes fight it, it's the spirit keeping you hooked to them. This makes it harder to move on just keep fighting.
@@lisatryme3518 mine new all my insecurities without me speaking or showing them and he catered to them during the love bomb stage. For him to marry her she has to be good supply but that still doesn't mean he wont try and come bk to you if she wises up. Just stay strong.
thank you for sharing you have no idea the number of lives you are saving. my religious background made me a prime Target for my Narc. im fighting to recover however this is the most challenging thing I have ever had experienced in my life.
Thank you so much for sharing this! The timing is incredible-- I've been feeling '' off '' lately, almost like I'm being spiritually stalked by a handful of people - - since I'm very spiritually sensitive, this is something that really never completely goes away, and the activity has been high lately - - thank you for reminding me to check in with that side of myself, and cleanse it.
"like I'm being spiritually stalked by a handful of people" - exactly. I have been sensing a shadowy entity following me lately and as I said this to a borderline friend whom I've been hanging around with a lot, it was gone. What do you think about that?
There's a spiritual battle going on . I'm a follower of Jesus and am very aware of the spirit world. If you have spiritual discernment like myself you can sense it. It's a gift from God and to be used for His glory. Narcs i believe are demon possessed . I actually saw this thing in my ex partner , his eyes turned pure black when he was in a rage once. So glad i'm almost free , he leaves today. Took me a long time to understand what i was dealing with. I praise God for guiding me to these videos. Be blessed.
This is one of the classic techniques the entities use to feed on your energy. As long as you stay in high energy level dimensions they won't get to you no matter how hard they struggle. But be careful, now you are their worst enemy and they strike harder and harder. It is a dangerous cutting edge you need to learn to master before going for it, unless you want to offer them 200% success.
Thankyou so much for this video. The Bible says we are to guard our hearts, to be as wise as a serpent but gentle as a dove and regarding narc's to get the heck away from them .
This is an amazing video! You are one of the few who mentions the significance of sexual attraction - talk about trauma bonding..it can be so difficult to extricate oneself from a “romantic” relationship with a narcissistic. I went through years of hell believing in nothing but a myth.
I did a chakras cleanse a few weeks ago, cause I was feeling hurt on my solar plexus. While doing it, I started feeling a huge pain on the back of my neck, then my solar plexus got very hot. A few weeks later I was told my aura was red and shiny except for a dark light, that was there due to my narc. This has been one of my most traumatic experiences. Everything, absolutely everything you mention is exactly what has happened to me. From the admiration to the critics, from telling me I was her leader to telling me I was a coward, from telling me that she didn’t know how to live without me and owed me her life, to telling me that I was too needy and didn’t know how to be with myself and everything was always about me. This confusion, these guilt trips after going no contact, the depression from the withdrawal, the crying, and STILL wanting to know if she is alright, still feeling like I care for her, having to identify the ugly things hidden behind the most beautiful compliments I have received in my life. The wondering of which part was true, if there was any, the doubting if I am a narc myself, the hurt, the pain, the memories and not being able to erase them, cause you can’t, but at least wish they can stop hurting. This, my fellow victims, this is the lesson we have to take with us. Never again fall for someone who compliments you without knowing you enough and without knowing them enough. Love yourself to the point that you don’t need to hear from anyone else how much you’re worth. Don’t fall for the tears, the victimization, the praising, the needing. Never let them break your spirit. Get out before it is too late. When you are down on the floor crying and thinking about how stupid you were, they will be long gone, and all the promises of “I’ll always be here for you” will be just words. Another advise, compliments are like gum. Chew them, but never swallow.
THANK you,this os exactly what i AM dealing with right now, i have tried to do the healing work,cptsd, workout,semen retention etc but the the sexual energy just takes Over me and i did not even appreciate ir that much, too robotic,no connection, só i had to release it, and feel like i go back to the beggining, No contacto for 3 months,but She lives across the street, and i can t take her out of my mind, i AM actually wishing for the hoovering,which wont happen coz i insulted and exposed her after discard, Too lonely,don t know whatelse to do
I tried energetic protection with someone who was emotionally abusive (i.e. psychic vampire), and just after I started, I got a call from him saying "I don't want to be friends any more. You just don't understand me!" I replied "Is that your mental justification for all you did?" So, it's amazing how quickly I got results from energetic protection.
@@kori_88 I must have had a lot of toxic cords between this individual I was dealing with. You can get sucked into something before you realize what's going on. What I did was do chanting. I chanted Om Dum Durgayei Namaha which is a protective chant, and while doing so, I surrounded myself with light. Next thing I know, I got that discard call. I suppose you could use any protective prayer. They can sense they are losing control over you even from a distance. Also, Tina Turner has a new book out called "Happiness Becomes You." She was in a very abusive relationship with Ike Turner. He gave her permanent black eyes from what I understand. She used the chant "Nam Myo Ho Renge Kyo". She's a Nichiren Buddhist.
Amazing - this should be seen by everyone who is on a spiritual path, thank you so much! Even if I had to learn it the hard way, it is still good to hear that it is allowed or necessary to set boundaries also in spiritual settings. There are so many people who mix up integrity with egotism - and people who use this to get power over others.
Thank you for all that you do. I now know I can recognize a narcissist. A spiritual narc promptly tried to be in my life. I called him out on his behavior and he hoovered and I knew exactly what was going on! Everyone, pay attention to what Meredith is teaching us. Her teachings have been a blessing for me.
I met my ex narc in AA. After I woke up to this fact I realized that there are quite a few in the rooms. Fortunately , many of them are not leaders and people tend to be friendly toward them but they are put off and keep them at arms length even if they are not aware of this personality disorder. They also seem to be part of the group without actually being a part of it . Like my ex who is an enigma in the way that no one really knows much about her beside the fact that everyone thinks she is a wonderful person.They are indeed charismatic and funny but when they speak there is very little substance , spirituality and humility in their shares. It is very interesting to witness this now that I know all I know because I never noticed it before
Same happened to me!!!! Met the dude in A. A. And I had to end the relationship to seriously focus on my steps. He interfered with that! And that enigma thing, same too. Everyone knew nothing about him, but yet he was such a wonderful, giving guy. Again, they knew nothing of him personally but yet they said they were friends for decades. Please. Me being new to recovery didn't know that he 13th stepped me. So now I'm no contact, but the monkeys and him are STILL around. Because I'm still in recovery in the same rehab area.
100% every narc I’ve known could be a professional actor. I remember even telling a narc friend he should have been an actor before fully seeing the big picture. I mention about being an actor/actress because nothing is genuine, it’s all a show. This is why there is no substance, because they really don’t know that much about whatever it is they are talking about or trying to pass off as.
Thank you for this video! I had a sudden urge to contact after not feeling the need at all! I also believe some of the spiritual communities are attractive to manipulators/predators.
Even the Bible mentions them: False Shepherds or Wolfs in Sheeps Clothing. A lot of them are in minister positions because it is the ideal way to get effective supply without much effort. But the Good News is that God also reserved the same kind of reward for them. Praise Him.
oh my - i have been a christian 13 years i have never come across people like this - it sounds horrific. i'm sorry you have experienced this and glad you are warning people. :(
Infinite gratitude for your deep understanding of this specific topic. Your channel continues to help me make profound changes towards a healthier life. 💟
By far your best video in my opinion. FULL of valuable information every second. Definitely matches what I experienced and learned from my experience, this will help MANY avoid dangerous predators (hopefully).
Very enlightening. I have been having serious pain in those areas for years. Your videos have been so helpful for what has been going on in my life. Thank you for the invaluable information and support!
Be careful of this with Narc parents also. As well as this i've found that there are at least to people who purport to be experts on Narc recovery who work along these lines also and who use the spiritual jargon and psychological jargon to manipulate and extort money from people. Gotta really trust what youu're feeling and as Meredith often says , listen to your body and if it feels wrong it probably is.
Spiritual hoovering is no actual contact with the abusers. If you haven't actually gone through it you wouldn't understand. This didn't help much because this speaks on actual contact.
Yes spiritual Hoover is when your at work and your mind wonders and you start thinking of being with the narcissist and start feeling the need to be near them. It's a pull on your heart reminding you of the narc telling you you need them.
Vrienda Ganguly Same here! I hear him in my head all the time. It was like that when I was with him and it was the driving force on why I couldn’t let go. He Hoover’s with psychic attacks and spiritual attacks and at times, I just drop to my knees and beg the universe to make it stop. I even thought I was going crazy. I talked to my therapist and she assured me what I was experiencing was real. I’m going to eventually see a spiritual advisor to break the link. I am more convinced then ever dude has wicked spirit inside of him. Good luck to you!
Thank you. THIS is what I was searching for when I typed in "Spiritual hoovering". This morning, I woke up with an INTENSE conviction in my spirit that God may have wanted me to tell my ex narc that I forgive him (meaning I would have to break no contact after 2 and a half years). I prayed on my knees for confirmation that this was from God and not the enemy. It was sooo strong that I almost sent him a text. Then my mom called me and I told her what was happening and I asked her to pray for me. She said she would immediately. After I got off the phone, within about 10 minutes or so, I felt totally calm and able to think straight again. This is why I thought that maybe this was a spiritual attack from my ex to unblock him and break no contact 🤷. I need to find more info on this if anyone has links to videos on this, I'd appreciate it. Thank you. 💜
Is a narcissist able to HOVER spiritually? I have done everything to rid this toxic relationship from my life. But I always feel a very powerful pull, even though I don't want to, I still think about him. I am in the part where I ABSOLUTELY KNOW that he can never hurt me, because I have grown so strong mentally and have new, valuable boundaries that will not be crossed.. But, Damn it, I just cannot stop thinking about him. As though there is a curse on me.
Me too. It's almost like we feel sorry for them because we know that if these people didn't have this crazy disorder that they would be good people. I don't know...npd is the devil.
YES!!!!!!!!! Oh my goodness! I’ve been feeling his energy almost “breathing down the back of my neck”. ugh I’ve got to cut these soul mate and spiritual bonds. thank u as always!
Thank you for this, Meredith. This is important, but not well understood by everyone teaching "narcfreecisim" (! Ghee, I just made a wonderful, new word! Haha). Coverts definitely use whatever psychic "abilities" they have, to harm others. What is needed, is to empty out all the feelings and reactions that arise, when getting triggered by other people. Then they will have nothing to latch on to. I am abit against the consept of "lessons to be learned"...I rather see it as there being a need to remember certain supressed memories that are hindering us from protecting ourselves. During a psychic attack, it is necessary to sever the intrusion as soon as possible, unless it is at the stage where you need to gather information about their plans to harm you (which usually is the attempt). When you have gathered what you need to know, in order to make plans and strategies against their next move, you need to disconnect as soon as possible. This can be done through watching movies, listening to music at high volume, moving you body (cleaning your home, dancing, anything that will get the auric energies shifting, so you cut the connection). You can also take a shower, eat something very tasty to you, light some scented candles, etc. Just make sure that you are activating ALL of your senses, so you strengthen the connection to YOURSELF, and your body. You do all this until they stop attacking you. When left alone again, you can then start to empty out the suppressed feelings or memories that were triggered, and seal your aura after. NEVER make plans about your future, or even think about any aspect of your life, while under a psychic attack. This is VERY important, because you don`t know what level of mind- reading/ energy- reading they may be capable of. Love your videos. Take care. Kind regards.
There is all power in the name of Jesus Christ. All spiritual authority is in the person of Jesus Christ. Nothing can stand against the blood of Jesus Christ. Trust in Him alone not other people because they are only human beings even if some of them don't intent to cause harm.
Absolutely annoited word.😙 There is truly an amazing grace about Our Lord and Christ. May you continue to pour out his oil of transforming good news. Thank you
Totally agree! If people remember how they were treated and all the pain the guy put them through, they will never put themselves in a position to be hurt again by that person. Pray, pray everyday and God will help you out.
Wow! You explained the life I lived for 10 years to a tee. I had cut cords many many times. Still almost 8 years later I occasionally have to cut some cords. Thank you for getting me thinking about how and why those cords even got there in the 1st place. Thank you.
Meredith, I see this dynamic in government service, too, where the organizational structure is similar to the church's. I see supervisors and managers hoovering employees to not think their professional accomplishments are significant, and to be successful, the person must go outside established performance standards or be deemed less than.
Thank you so much for talking about this! Very good stuff here, especially for those of us who are sensitive to the psychic energies! Thanks for reminding me about cord cutting! 🙏💝 many blessings upon you, Meredith!
Yes, yes and YES! I've had folks like these try to come at me. Its totally ridiculous. When you're able to identify them, they're absolutely laughable, but when you're not, it is downright dangerous.
You are amazing. Exactly what I have learned on my own through some very weird experiences, but it's so great to hear it from someone I respect as much as you. Perfectly what I needed to hear today.
Wow you tell my story. And I believe I have I in turn (silently) hoovered someone on the ether, as I didn't know any other way to relate. I've had painful occipital & solar plexus issues since early childhood. Have energetic "cables/siphons" attached into my throat chakra on the left side from 2 people, that seem to drain & control my verbal self-expression badly. Also constantly mid-thoracic pain etc like someone's shoe is kicking in my back - which sums it all up. I've received SO much growth, healing, huge priceless insights etc from amazing people in this world, who were also horribly damaging narcissistic abusers. They themselves were damaged and confused, but that DOES NOT mean that I have to let them abuse me! 😄 Working on it all, thanks for the massive help here!! Very very true, and well done!
something very unsettling I experienced was the very strong, almost uncontrollable urge to kiss my narc. I'm heterosexual. She was like a sister to me. And at the time when the urge was strongest, was when I was happily married. Thinking back, most people I know that she was emotionally invested in, have kissed her (including my husband because that's how fucking toxic and controlling she is) Could it be some sort of dark energy that draws people in to her physically like that? Is it just her vampiric nature that wants to feed on the physical affection of others? It was terrifying to realize how badly I wanted to kiss her and know that if I did, she wouldn't have stopped me.
Again, thank you for spelling this out and I love the way that you can put a word to some of the, at least to me, abstract ideas, I remember a few people, mostly girls and women who were always going on to me about other guys that were "so humble" and I never had a real answer, it can be frustrating, they're always trying to shut me down, but you really help put me on a better path.
Some fabulous insight here into demons which you put very articulately, and your conversation can also be translated into working with non human-entity attack such as bad habits and addictions etc...funny how psychopaths and bad habits affect you the same way and take over your mind. I've only just discovered your videos on youtube despite having my head in the narcissism/psychopath stuff for a while now. You are an amazing lady with a full power beautiful energy and a real pleasure to listen to. Thank you for your wise insight sister. Keep up the great work xxx
Yeeeees! Whew! Thank you! I got away!! Broke off my engagement this week ! And was doubting myself for setting a boundary and just saying NO to his 'biglove'-ish' death pit scheme. Right after sending my breakup text: I felt the covers and my shirt moving by themselves, repeatedly, 4,000 miles away from this ex-fiance right there at the spot at the back of my neck! He Daddied me, soulmated me, and gave me full attention (my core trauma wound, aged 2...resolved now!! :-)) for 40 days. 5 days pulling away! Whew! Thank you, Meredith!
Yep. It's been a while since I've been involved with community groups. So as a Christian I joined an Alpha group, just to be around folk who arent Christians because I figured that would ease me back into being around people. I enjoyed it, and enjoyed sharing by beliefs and relationship God. I spoke about why I was there, briefly. The group leader spoke with me at the end of the evening, tried encouraging me to trust and that if I was so paranoid I would never get along with people. I never mentioned paranoid. I stood my ground on healing in my way and time, and absolutely disagreed with trusting folk, or blindly trusting them. I reminded him what Jesus said, that he knew the hearts of people and didnt trust people because of what he knew. The group leader tried to correct me, saying Jesus trusted his friends, and encouraged me to take on board what he was saying. I left that place, feeling unsafe and violated, the rules of the group broken .. that anything we said was of value and to not minimize etc. I decided not to go back. I felt stressed. I know that feeling now, and I trust my own judgement and I'm fine with my own decisions and reasons. I had explained why I was there. A few days later he emailed me, wanting to talk with me. He called that evening, and explained that perhaps the Alpha group wasnt the right place for me and that I should think of going to the main church sessions, that they would welcome me. You cant make it up, can you. There I was, vulnerable, explained my reasons for choosing an Alpha group (intro to finding out about Jesus), and got turned away .. and I know why. Funny enough, I had a sense that would happen. And it did.
I suspect that Wayne Dyer was a narc. I'm reading I Can See Clearly Now and it strikes me how special he thinks he is. I also watched the seminar with him and Esther Hicks (California 13 November 2013 - watch it, its amazing) but it struck me he's a horrible listener, a huge braggart and a massive manipulator. It would be interesting to hear what others think. Nothing he wrote was original. It seems he mentally plagiarised everything he ever read which is in line with stealing personality traits and facts from sources to make up his own false self (as they do). He had an alcoholic and abandoning father, was in and out of foster homes for the first ten years of his life, divorced three times, had leukaemia and died of a heart attack. Sure, we're human, but I'm not sure about the purity of this one.
Saadia Kiyani Are you kidding? Narcs want to do nothing BUT change people's lives. Not all narcs are overt malignant - a lot of them are covert 'altruistic'. Cults have leaders like this - and the New Thought Movement is a bit of a cult - it was easy for him to jump on the bandwagon and reflect in its glory. Again - his ideas are not his own. He regurgitated them from others.
Finally!!! Someone can see what i have always noticed about Wayne Dyer!!! Its just that the things he says are such high livel spirituality that no one would dare say that about this "god like" guy.
Addicted to control and manipulaion. Feel the same about Scott Peck, gurus are not always good. Also some psychologists have freaked me out, lot of sickos there.
Whoa WHOA!!!!!!!!! Omg for months I've had this great tingling in the back of my head and I had no idea why, I got scared it was a tumor or something, but at the same time I felt it wasn't medically seriously, that I just had to stop putting too much pressure on the side of my head from sleeping. as time went on however, I got twitchy like I wanted to explode emotionally. I was afraid though, but Soon, I would be in my car and let out as much screaming and swearing as I can because I felt like I was balloom that was being inflated with too much helium that I NEEDED to explode, but since I kept it in, i was just destroying myself, i was denying what in reality is supposed to happen. When a balloon reaches it limit, it pops, no holding back. But I was. After lots of screaming and saying things I wanted to say but couldn't, like, "NO, DO IT YOURSELF, STAY THE F AWAY FROM ME!!!!" The tingling I my head felt sooooo much better, now what's left is this weird sensation in the place where you said spiritual attack entered. It's where top spine ends and where the back of head curves upwards. I found this other video online that was an exercise to get rid of controlling influences and she would say pretend there's a hook in your head, and it's connected to the person who you want to disconnect from. Pull it out as hard as you can. I remember pretending to pull out a hook in the back of my head, that spiritual attack area, and strangely it brings some relief.
Angel0Whispers -thank you- I shall try this. When 1st broke intense (codependant very enmeshed ) contact with extremely controlling covert n mother; my neck would literally "crack"...now it is literally Just in areas around back But my lungs ....all down the back of body; interestingly. Sneaky! I'm onto it now more. We have been fuel.
I was with a covert narcissist and didn’t even realize it till after the discard and his attempt to destroy me... but really, he set me freeeeeeeeeeeee!!! I can focus on myself, heal and then continue my mission for #worldpeace ❤️❤️❤️
I discovered these videos at just the moment I needed them. I’ve learned so many mental tools from your videos that have kept me from being duped by an ex. Thank you!
Oh wow, spot on! My narc was the first guy i met that was into spirituality. I thought it was awkward, since he’s appears quite the macho guy, but endearing at the same time. He called me twin flame and that whatnot too. The sex was best ever, i will never have that again. His belief is all spiritual, but his behaviour definately isn’t. I will never trust spiritual people again due to him.
I was online recently and noticed a fellow new ager getting attacked for his point of view in a chat room--so I made a supportive statement--and WHOOSH--I was swept off to narc city! It didn't take long to see (because I became a therapist since my last in-person narc) what was happening. It came with one statement: "man, you really don't like it when you don't get your way, do you?" I cyber-stayed around out of curiosity and got to see the stonewalling, gas lighting...all of it. "It's just research" I told myself. Then, he pulled some stuff that messed with my head--and I blocked him, both online and phone. But.....I felt the familiar compulsive urge to call him!!! WTF??? Still firm with no contact....but it is still clear I have a strong magnetic attraction to Cluster B's and that is reciprocal. How timely was your video...eh?
Peggy Genoway yes,I think on yu tube anytime someone gets attacked, it is from a Narc who is trolling, looking for victims. You were just in the wrong place at the wrong time. Peace to you.
Peggy Genoway - poor you. Nasty. I have seen them too looking for good fuel from us empaths. They just Love to downplay the misery and pain of someone abused. I have defended others when seen it. Hateful behaviour. I call it: attempting to Re-Shame us. We all know; to be vulnerable kills former shame(work of Brené Brown); so they stink and are totally unhealthy; wishing to halt our healing from a he'll they often have caused elsewhere. So they come on here to dump it; like overspill; as NOTHING can contain their malevolence. Like cowards that they are; the lot of them.
My neck is STILL popping from a psychic attack last year. I had a guy always showing up in my dreams over and over...at some point last year I woke up in the astral plane with whatever it was and was energetically vampired by the entity/person? My life force was completely drained from me. I knew something was happening to my astral body but couldn’t figure out what it was. I finally figured out what it was, an astral vampire was on my astral body syphoning my life force. It looked like him but who knows who it really was but eventually I did catch the root of the issue.
I'm so glad I didn't get too deep into spirituality (and especially the New Age stuff) and was swayed away from it. I'm so glad I can't be manipulated by "spiritual" abusers, but I realize how hard it must be to not fall for spiritual manipulation.
13:40 the lesson as I think is your parents were pushing you for standing up for your self in situations where you were right. So you were denied to have boundaries- reason for school bullying. In case of falling in love with cold people- distant and emotionally unavailable mother, or father.
this is happening with 2 people...one male...one female..both are self proclaimed dark witches. I removed all mirrors from my home...amazing the lessening of bad energy...sounds crazy... but watch the Skeleton Key...I learned from this Movie....the Universe is Love towards me...I send out Love & Light & Blessings to all living beings. this helps a lot...it is amazing how portals work... amazing how sending out good energy attracts good energy...your video popped up for this very reason 💓💓💓 return all energy to the sender... and how easy it is to disable ..thank you... excellent video...helps me just to hear you speak these truths out loud. 💟💟💟
What if I cover the mirrors up, or turn the unattached ones, around facing the wall? Would that help, or just get rid of all mirrors? Also what else can act as portals?
Thank you for sharing this. I was searching over the internet about this. I think that Im suffring from spiritual hoovering. I dont know if the person I knew if he is a narcissist or no. Despite the names, I knew there is some thing wrong with this person, I can feel it but I ignored my intuition. I usaslly have strong feeling towards fake people. He started with love bombing and idealization and twin flame story. This person always tell me we are one soul and one body. And we will be togather forever and so on. I was happy in the love bombing stage. I felt like I was addicted. I didnt know how did I ended up searching about narcissism. Now Im ignoring him and have no feeling at all in my heart but I still thinking about him all times. And sometimes suddenly I feel that I missed him so much I feel that I have to contact him no matter what. This is starnge. And the strangest thing that he knows if im going out to a place or something. How did this happen? We live in different countries? Is this a spiritual strength or something? Did anyone face the same?
This is extremely good information and I appreciate your taking the time to share it. For some reason, your explanations are particularly good. Or maybe it's just because I need to hear them right now. :-)
For all you incredible survivors🙅♂️🙅♀️... Teal Swan has an awesomely effective "cord cutting meditation" video here on YT; around a 25min vid she'll guide you through gently and simply. A relaxing bath you won't be disturbed in is a great place to do it💕🕊️Best wishes🕊️😚
I dreamt with my narc ex-wife during the love bombing phase. I opened myself completely because I thought she really loved me for me. She claimed we're soul mates, finished my sentences, we even had the same knife collection arranged in the same pattern, although I had put mine in boxes in the closet with a picture of how it was arranged (note I hadn't gotten rid of it yet).. Now I feel I've sullied my soul. She keeps a lock box full of crosses, including mine on top, as an offering to Satan whom she worships, while pretending to be a Christian. She's cast a spell over all the souls who's crosses are in there. I feel her sometimes and look out my window and sure enough, there she is driving by my house again.
I had joined a daoistic internet course across the Globe. It turned out that it was an energetic 'tempel' and that gave him/them 24 hr access to my soul. And everybody in the course/circle unconsciously had influence on eachothers lives...that got funky. It also somehow detached me from the outside world as they began to manipulate my inside world. The internet can be very deceptive because you cannot use all your senses, and you might access it alone, so It limits your perception and a buddys support. When I heal all this my immune system will be smackingly strong w all the crap Ive been through 🤣
This just happened to me last week with a guy who commented here... He also has a spiritual awakening channel... I saw some videos... And boom... I feel this twin flame connection bullshit, and I felt I had to constantly think aboyt this guy... Like a drug... That s projection... He (or whatever demons) he has inside were love bombing me, and making me believe I am love bombing him... It was twisted and sickening. Even if I went to pray at night... There was tihis'flame' about a guy I don t even know... And as you said in your other video about spirituality, they have the power to smooth you and open and talk openly about your life... Yet, I don t know that person... Total red flag... So I told him about my past, yet... Even the urgency to tell a stranger whatever secrets or vulnerabilities speaks of their thirst for information... And then abuse starts... I found him in my thoughts all they long... I cut all communication with this guy... Yet, my point is... He projected me... All the time it felt as if I am a poor victim needing him his advices... It felt really sick, when in realuty I am stronger than ever in my spirit, after much spiritual abuse... Supply, supply... That s what they want... Cut the bullshit, and re start the steps from healing narc abuse Victimization Separation Deprogramation Reconstruction Reincersion. Thanks
Wow!!. Thank You. Spot on My Ex Narc .Covert Narc. Spiritual Narc . In the spiritual Community. Has thousand of followers on social Media. Uses the Exact spiritual words. Love and light . Makes them think he is the real deal. He uses, Namaste, love and light. And claims his Ablities are out of this world. He tells all his New supply that they are his twinflame, that love is powerful . He uses the same tatic.for Everyone
Dont be decieve. nor be fooled be watcgful at all times! Look out for sheep in wolves clothing and wolfes in sheep clothing.(Behavioral and how they act and talk) hope thids helps! Thats what helped me!!!
I have exoerienced this and I get attacked on my lower 3 charkas quite frequently. As I continue to practice my work daily. Makes things clear. Thank you
Church is what taught me to be open to everybody. Wow, was I duped! It left me open to being destroyed by giving people the benefit of the doubt and being forgiving and trying to be so giving. Those things can be good but nobody ever said it was ok to set a boundary because they themselves wanted sheep they could control and the whole damn place was run by wolves. I kept trusting for years until I woke up destroyed for the last time and realized I needed to rally my inner strength and put a stop to that shit from every cluster B around me! I'm now closed until people earn my trust. I'll be friendly on the surface but nobody is getting in my inner circle until proven trustworthy of that honor.
Fabled Creature Your story is exactly the same as mine. Keep on healing, I was in terrible shape when I left but I am strongest Ive been in my whole life now. Just keep doing the work on yourself. It gets better.
Fabled Creature and mis hill ...Me to. I was in a church from 13 to 27 and even married within there and I have been trying to understand what happened to me. I'm 33 and only now things are being revealed. I'm creating boundaries and my second church I started going to when I was 27 till now I have cut off. Left the ministry because know one believed me and so much subtle openings for a abuse. Those situations I caught myself in was feeling uncomfortable I realised those were warning signs of subtle abuse which later when get higher in ministry they own you.
Fabled Creature I had a totally different church experience. I was taught to trust my discernment and be wary of the company I keep. I was also taught that you should love everyone but that didn't mean they belong in your life as a key player. Unfortunately I was already with the narc prior to learning this but I credit this awareness with what I learned at church. It was the unrealistic romance novels I read as a girl that had me believing in dysfunction. I stopped reading that mess in my 20s.
yeah I always set the boundary when she starts asking for money.
Racquel Dillon you raise a very good point here. Romance novels did set women up for abuse.
I'm an empath and am a magnet for these cretins. Nauseating to be around theses toxic people.
1jw2 Omg! Yes they’re are very toxic!
How do you deal with yours?
Don't they just Love an empath! Tough changing to be less openly visible to them but I have had to as at the end:-....everywhere they were- even getting out the lift there'd be one! It feels demonic at times for me. I use Ephesians now:the whole armour of God.
I hate it. I don’t get it. Being a empathetic person sucks lately for me.
"Compassion is for everyone, compassion and love have no boundaries.This sort of bullshit is taught in a lot of spiritual and religious institutions" ....and it's gonna set you up for abuse. THANK YOU Meredith ! I wish someone could have warned me before I learned this lesson the hard way !
Thanks for saying what my psychologist won’t say.
"Same shit, different face"...when you go from from one narc to another
yep
Wow that hit hard
The person I was discarded by is a youtuber so I occasionally get the urge to click on his videos when I’m feeling weak. The last time I did that I clicked the video at a random time and he said “I’m glad you got your fingers burned.” I had just burnt my finger the night before. Also hear him say random words or sentences like “banjo,” “flip a coin,” “ren means name,” and he’ll actually say them in a livestream. Things that are too specific to be just a coincidence. I’ve sometimes texted words to myself prior to watching to prove it to myself that I’m not going crazy. Really good video, thank you.
I beleive this is set up through child trauma,its all about boundaries and feeling your feelings,CPTSD thanks
Sometime a worse problem is dealing with OTHER spiritual people (friends and associates, usually) that don't understand- or haven't recognized, because they are enablers of- NPD, when they see you walk away from the Narcissist and give you a bunch of "spiritual" judgements about how you're not being forgiving, setting boundaries is setting "limitations on love," or that you're "putting expectations" on the person, and that your righteous, valid anger us "unspiritual." You will never convince them that they don't know what the hell they're talking about- thus in my experience you sometimes have to walk away from even personal contacts that may not have had a relationship with the Narc if they are being obstructions to your recovery.
So true! This was my experience exactly! Just devastated
Absolutely! I found I had to leave EVERYONE that was friends/family with the narc. But I didn't care. My peace and my well being and my kids and my family and the people who love me deserve to have me. Just think of all the people YOU lost by trying to make that piece of shit narc happy 24/7.
My ex narcissist was incredibly psychic about what I was thinking and we would actually each night have sessions where he would tell me exactly what I had been thinking about. Or he would mention dreams he had where "someone" was with him in a way that I had been thinking about. He was completely in touch with my thoughts, and even told me about past things in my life I had never told him about, mostly the bad things I had done no one knew about! I just thought he was incredibly psychic but now I think it was demonic.
Yes the back of my scalp itches since I met him.
I read where this woman said the spirit that makes people a narc goes back and forth between you and the narc sharing who you are and giving the narc information about your deepest desires and insecurities. This is why they know how to lovebomb you so good and also what to do to hurt and trauma bond you.
Beautiful Love Yes! My sperm donor did that all the time! I thought I was crazy until he starting saying things that made me realize I wasn’t. He Hoover’s now on a psychic level. It’s tormenting. I kept hearing him telling me he was married in my head and heart. Sure enough, he had gotten married!
Quiche Lorraine I’m okay. I don’t want him back but the psychic attacks do continue. I think this is mostly due to his new supply not giving him attention. One way or another I will find away to discontinue this spiritual link between us. I
@@lisatryme3518 wow! mine would always leave and come back. I believe I was his greatest supply. I heard him say to me the other day he was tired of this new supply and he is ready to come back and get me and I actually started imagining us being together again but then I snapped out of it. The pull they have on us is strong. I pray when the psychic hoovers come because I will never let him hurt me again. It gets worst every time you take them back. It's spiritual warfare and I know it because I use to be strong but I'm getting it back slowly. It's been a year since I broke lose. Another thing I want to tell you is don't masturbate thinking about them, when the urge comes fight it, it's the spirit keeping you hooked to them. This makes it harder to move on just keep fighting.
@@lisatryme3518 mine new all my insecurities without me speaking or showing them and he catered to them during the love bomb stage. For him to marry her she has to be good supply but that still doesn't mean he wont try and come bk to you if she wises up. Just stay strong.
thank you for sharing you have no idea the number of lives you are saving. my religious background made me a prime Target for my Narc. im fighting to recover however this is the most challenging thing I have ever had experienced in my life.
DjDebUsa Bond true my Narc is a spiritual leader and im not the first target.
gracein action what is that?
Thank you so much for sharing this! The timing is incredible-- I've been feeling '' off '' lately, almost like I'm being spiritually stalked by a handful of people - - since I'm very spiritually sensitive, this is something that really never completely goes away, and the activity has been high lately - - thank you for reminding me to check in with that side of myself, and cleanse it.
"like I'm being spiritually stalked by a handful of people" - exactly. I have been sensing a shadowy entity following me lately and as I said this to a borderline friend whom I've been hanging around with a lot, it was gone. What do you think about that?
summerrain Ministering to all requirement bravary.
There's a spiritual battle going on . I'm a follower of Jesus and am very aware of the spirit world. If you have spiritual discernment like myself you can sense it. It's a gift from God and to be used for His glory. Narcs i believe are demon possessed . I actually saw this thing in my ex partner , his eyes turned pure black when he was in a rage once. So glad i'm almost free , he leaves today. Took me a long time to understand what i was dealing with. I praise God for guiding me to these videos. Be blessed.
This has been me lately. I've noticed some very 'out of the ordinary' things happening all consecutively. It's time to stop questioning and move on.
This is one of the classic techniques the entities use to feed on your energy. As long as you stay in high energy level dimensions they won't get to you no matter how hard they struggle. But be careful, now you are their worst enemy and they strike harder and harder. It is a dangerous cutting edge you need to learn to master before going for it, unless you want to offer them 200% success.
Thankyou so much for this video. The Bible says we are to guard our hearts, to be as wise as a serpent but gentle as a dove and regarding narc's to get the heck away from them .
This is an amazing video! You are one of the few who mentions the significance of sexual attraction - talk about trauma bonding..it can be so difficult to extricate oneself from a “romantic” relationship with a narcissistic. I went through years of hell believing in nothing but a myth.
I did a chakras cleanse a few weeks ago, cause I was feeling hurt on my solar plexus. While doing it, I started feeling a huge pain on the back of my neck, then my solar plexus got very hot. A few weeks later I was told my aura was red and shiny except for a dark light, that was there due to my narc. This has been one of my most traumatic experiences. Everything, absolutely everything you mention is exactly what has happened to me. From the admiration to the critics, from telling me I was her leader to telling me I was a coward, from telling me that she didn’t know how to live without me and owed me her life, to telling me that I was too needy and didn’t know how to be with myself and everything was always about me. This confusion, these guilt trips after going no contact, the depression from the withdrawal, the crying, and STILL wanting to know if she is alright, still feeling like I care for her, having to identify the ugly things hidden behind the most beautiful compliments I have received in my life. The wondering of which part was true, if there was any, the doubting if I am a narc myself, the hurt, the pain, the memories and not being able to erase them, cause you can’t, but at least wish they can stop hurting. This, my fellow victims, this is the lesson we have to take with us. Never again fall for someone who compliments you without knowing you enough and without knowing them enough. Love yourself to the point that you don’t need to hear from anyone else how much you’re worth. Don’t fall for the tears, the victimization, the praising, the needing. Never let them break your spirit. Get out before it is too late. When you are down on the floor crying and thinking about how stupid you were, they will be long gone, and all the promises of “I’ll always be here for you” will be just words. Another advise, compliments are like gum. Chew them, but never swallow.
THANK you,this os exactly what i AM dealing with right now, i have tried to do the healing work,cptsd, workout,semen retention etc but the the sexual energy just takes Over me and i did not even appreciate ir that much, too robotic,no connection, só i had to release it, and feel like i go back to the beggining,
No contacto for 3 months,but She lives across the street, and i can t take her out of my mind, i AM actually wishing for the hoovering,which wont happen coz i insulted and exposed her after discard,
Too lonely,don t know whatelse to do
I tried energetic protection with someone who was emotionally abusive (i.e. psychic vampire), and just after I started, I got a call from him saying "I don't want to be friends any more. You just don't understand me!" I replied "Is that your mental justification for all you did?" So, it's amazing how quickly I got results from energetic protection.
persiamotorman why so is that?
My reply to that would be: "Well, perhaps start to understand yourself first".
Can you please tell me what you did? I am looking for ways to protect myself and sever the cord thank you
@@kori_88 I must have had a lot of toxic cords between this individual I was dealing with. You can get sucked into something before you realize what's going on. What I did was do chanting. I chanted Om Dum Durgayei Namaha which is a protective chant, and while doing so, I surrounded myself with light. Next thing I know, I got that discard call. I suppose you could use any protective prayer. They can sense they are losing control over you even from a distance. Also, Tina Turner has a new book out called "Happiness Becomes You." She was in a very abusive relationship with Ike Turner. He gave her permanent black eyes from what I understand. She used the chant "Nam Myo Ho Renge Kyo". She's a Nichiren Buddhist.
@@persiamotorman thank you, I’m going to try these things ❤️
Amazing - this should be seen by everyone who is on a spiritual path, thank you so much! Even if I had to learn it the hard way, it is still good to hear that it is allowed or necessary to set boundaries also in spiritual settings. There are so many people who mix up integrity with egotism - and people who use this to get power over others.
Thank you for all that you do. I now know I can recognize a narcissist. A spiritual narc promptly tried to be in my life. I called him out on his behavior and he hoovered and I knew exactly what was going on! Everyone, pay attention to what Meredith is teaching us. Her teachings have been a blessing for me.
I met my ex narc in AA. After I woke up to this fact I realized that there are quite a few in the rooms. Fortunately , many of them are not leaders and people tend to be friendly toward them but they are put off and keep them at arms length even if they are not aware of this personality disorder. They also seem to be part of the group without actually being a part of it . Like my ex who is an enigma in the way that no one really knows much about her beside the fact that everyone thinks she is a wonderful person.They are indeed charismatic and funny but when they speak there is very little substance , spirituality and humility in their shares. It is very interesting to witness this now that I know all I know because I never noticed it before
AA anonymous equals Narcissists anonymous
Michael smith Believe what you want ?
Great observation!
Same happened to me!!!! Met the dude in A. A. And I had to end the relationship to seriously focus on my steps. He interfered with that! And that enigma thing, same too.
Everyone knew nothing about him, but yet he was such a wonderful, giving guy. Again, they knew nothing of him personally but yet they said they were friends for decades. Please. Me being new to recovery didn't know that he 13th stepped me.
So now I'm no contact, but the monkeys and him are STILL around. Because I'm still in recovery in the same rehab area.
100% every narc I’ve known could be a professional actor. I remember even telling a narc friend he should have been an actor before fully seeing the big picture. I mention about being an actor/actress because nothing is genuine, it’s all a show. This is why there is no substance, because they really don’t know that much about whatever it is they are talking about or trying to pass off as.
Thank you for this video! I had a sudden urge to contact after not feeling the need at all! I also believe some of the spiritual communities are attractive to manipulators/predators.
Even the Bible mentions them:
False Shepherds or Wolfs in Sheeps Clothing. A lot of them are in minister positions because it is the ideal way to get effective supply without much effort.
But the Good News is that God also reserved the same kind of reward for them. Praise Him.
oh my - i have been a christian 13 years i have never come across people like this - it sounds horrific. i'm sorry you have experienced this and glad you are warning people. :(
Infinite gratitude for your deep understanding of this specific topic. Your channel continues to help me make profound changes towards a healthier life. 💟
By far your best video in my opinion. FULL of valuable information every second. Definitely matches what I experienced and learned from my experience, this will help MANY avoid dangerous predators (hopefully).
Very enlightening. I have been having serious pain in those areas for years. Your videos have been so helpful for what has been going on in my life. Thank you for the invaluable information and support!
BINGO! OMG! Thank you! Geez all the lights are on now! Wow!
Be careful of this with Narc parents also.
As well as this i've found that there are at least to people who purport to be experts on Narc recovery who work along these lines also and who use the spiritual jargon and psychological jargon to manipulate and extort money from people.
Gotta really trust what youu're feeling and as Meredith often says , listen to your body and if it feels wrong it probably is.
Spiritual hoovering is no actual contact with the abusers. If you haven't actually gone through it you wouldn't understand. This didn't help much because this speaks on actual contact.
I've felt the psychic attacks in my head (pain), eye twitches
Yes spiritual Hoover is when your at work and your mind wonders and you start thinking of being with the narcissist and start feeling the need to be near them. It's a pull on your heart reminding you of the narc telling you you need them.
Vrienda Ganguly Same here! I hear him in my head all the time. It was like that when I was with him and it was the driving force on why I couldn’t let go. He Hoover’s with psychic attacks and spiritual attacks and at times, I just drop to my knees and beg the universe to make it stop. I even thought I was going crazy. I talked to my therapist and she assured me what I was experiencing was real. I’m going to eventually see a spiritual advisor to break the link. I am more convinced then ever dude has wicked spirit inside of him. Good luck to you!
Thank you. THIS is what I was searching for when I typed in "Spiritual hoovering". This morning, I woke up with an INTENSE conviction in my spirit that God may have wanted me to tell my ex narc that I forgive him (meaning I would have to break no contact after 2 and a half years). I prayed on my knees for confirmation that this was from God and not the enemy. It was sooo strong that I almost sent him a text. Then my mom called me and I told her what was happening and I asked her to pray for me. She said she would immediately. After I got off the phone, within about 10 minutes or so, I felt totally calm and able to think straight again. This is why I thought that maybe this was a spiritual attack from my ex to unblock him and break no contact 🤷. I need to find more info on this if anyone has links to videos on this, I'd appreciate it. Thank you. 💜
Is a narcissist able to HOVER spiritually? I have done everything to rid this toxic relationship from my life. But I always feel a very powerful pull, even though I don't want to, I still think about him. I am in the part where I ABSOLUTELY KNOW that he can never hurt me, because I have grown so strong mentally and have new, valuable boundaries that will not be crossed.. But, Damn it, I just cannot stop thinking about him. As though there is a curse on me.
Me too. It's almost like we feel sorry for them because we know that if these people didn't have this crazy disorder that they would be good people. I don't know...npd is the devil.
It s him thinking of you... He doen t let you go... Prayer, Holy Spirit and to Jesus
YES!!!!!!!!! Oh my goodness! I’ve been feeling his energy almost “breathing down the back of my neck”. ugh I’ve got to cut these soul mate and spiritual bonds. thank u as always!
Thank you for this, Meredith. This is important, but not well understood by everyone teaching "narcfreecisim" (! Ghee, I just made a wonderful, new word! Haha). Coverts definitely use whatever psychic "abilities" they have, to harm others. What is needed, is to empty out all the feelings and reactions that arise, when getting triggered by other people. Then they will have nothing to latch on to. I am abit against the consept of "lessons to be learned"...I rather see it as there being a need to remember certain supressed memories that are hindering us from protecting ourselves. During a psychic attack, it is necessary to sever the intrusion as soon as possible, unless it is at the stage where you need to gather information about their plans to harm you (which usually is the attempt). When you have gathered what you need to know, in order to make plans and strategies against their next move, you need to disconnect as soon as possible. This can be done through watching movies, listening to music at high volume, moving you body (cleaning your home, dancing, anything that will get the auric energies shifting, so you cut the connection). You can also take a shower, eat something very tasty to you, light some scented candles, etc. Just make sure that you are activating ALL of your senses, so you strengthen the connection to YOURSELF, and your body. You do all this until they stop attacking you. When left alone again, you can then start to empty out the suppressed feelings or memories that were triggered, and seal your aura after. NEVER make plans about your future, or even think about any aspect of your life, while under a psychic attack. This is VERY important, because you don`t know what level of mind- reading/ energy- reading they may be capable of. Love your videos. Take care. Kind regards.
There is all power in the name of Jesus Christ. All spiritual authority is in the person of Jesus Christ. Nothing can stand against the blood of Jesus Christ. Trust in Him alone not other people because they are only human beings even if some of them don't intent to cause harm.
Absolutely annoited word.😙 There is truly an amazing grace about Our Lord and Christ. May you continue to pour out his oil of transforming good news. Thank you
Amen
Amen
when you know the man behind the mask....Remember to remember!
Totally agree! If people remember how they were treated and all the pain the guy put them through, they will never put themselves in a position to be hurt again by that person. Pray, pray everyday and God will help you out.
Wow! You explained the life I lived for 10 years to a tee. I had cut cords many many times. Still almost 8 years later I occasionally have to cut some cords. Thank you for getting me thinking about how and why those cords even got there in the 1st place. Thank you.
Meredith, I see this dynamic in government service, too, where the organizational structure is similar to the church's. I see supervisors and managers hoovering employees to not think their professional accomplishments are significant, and to be successful, the person must go outside established performance standards or be deemed less than.
Thank you so much for talking about this! Very good stuff here, especially for those of us who are sensitive to the psychic energies! Thanks for reminding me about cord cutting! 🙏💝 many blessings upon you, Meredith!
Yes, yes and YES! I've had folks like these try to come at me. Its totally ridiculous. When you're able to identify them, they're absolutely laughable, but when you're not, it is downright dangerous.
You are amazing. Exactly what I have learned on my own through some very weird experiences, but it's so great to hear it from someone I respect as much as you. Perfectly what I needed to hear today.
Wow you tell my story. And I believe I have I in turn (silently) hoovered someone on the ether, as I didn't know any other way to relate.
I've had painful occipital & solar plexus issues since early childhood. Have energetic "cables/siphons" attached into my throat chakra on the left side from 2 people, that seem to drain & control my verbal self-expression badly. Also constantly mid-thoracic pain etc like someone's shoe is kicking in my back - which sums it all up.
I've received SO much growth, healing, huge priceless insights etc from amazing people in this world, who were also horribly damaging narcissistic abusers. They themselves were damaged and confused, but that DOES NOT mean that I have to let them abuse me! 😄
Working on it all, thanks for the massive help here!! Very very true, and well done!
Thank you so much for sharing and for your great support! Your work is a blessing, big hugs to you too xxx
Thank you!!! I' ll watch this video again!! Soo helpful!! And very important information about spiritual narcissists!! Thank you again!!😇🙏🌸🌸
something very unsettling I experienced was the very strong, almost uncontrollable urge to kiss my narc. I'm heterosexual. She was like a sister to me. And at the time when the urge was strongest, was when I was happily married.
Thinking back, most people I know that she was emotionally invested in, have kissed her (including my husband because that's how fucking toxic and controlling she is)
Could it be some sort of dark energy that draws people in to her physically like that? Is it just her vampiric nature that wants to feed on the physical affection of others?
It was terrifying to realize how badly I wanted to kiss her and know that if I did, she wouldn't have stopped me.
Again, thank you for spelling this out and I love the way that you can put a word to some of the, at least to me, abstract ideas, I remember a few people, mostly girls and women who were always going on to me about other guys that were "so humble" and I never had a real answer, it can be frustrating, they're always trying to shut me down, but you really help put me on a better path.
Omg !!! The neck problems is true!! Hi experience this. I had to wear a neck brace for two weeks!! It was so painful I cried through the pain.
Some fabulous insight here into demons which you put very articulately, and your conversation can also be translated into working with non human-entity attack such as bad habits and addictions etc...funny how psychopaths and bad habits affect you the same way and take over your mind.
I've only just discovered your videos on youtube despite having my head in the narcissism/psychopath stuff for a while now.
You are an amazing lady with a full power beautiful energy and a real pleasure to listen to.
Thank you for your wise insight sister.
Keep up the great work xxx
Yeeeees! Whew! Thank you! I got away!! Broke off my engagement this week ! And was doubting myself for setting a boundary and just saying NO to his 'biglove'-ish' death pit scheme. Right after sending my breakup text: I felt the covers and my shirt moving by themselves, repeatedly, 4,000 miles away from this ex-fiance right there at the spot at the back of my neck! He Daddied me, soulmated me, and gave me full attention (my core trauma wound, aged 2...resolved now!! :-)) for 40 days. 5 days pulling away! Whew! Thank you, Meredith!
Yep. It's been a while since I've been involved with community groups. So as a Christian I joined an Alpha group, just to be around folk who arent Christians because I figured that would ease me back into being around people. I enjoyed it, and enjoyed sharing by beliefs and relationship God. I spoke about why I was there, briefly. The group leader spoke with me at the end of the evening, tried encouraging me to trust and that if I was so paranoid I would never get along with people. I never mentioned paranoid. I stood my ground on healing in my way and time, and absolutely disagreed with trusting folk, or blindly trusting them. I reminded him what Jesus said, that he knew the hearts of people and didnt trust people because of what he knew. The group leader tried to correct me, saying Jesus trusted his friends, and encouraged me to take on board what he was saying. I left that place, feeling unsafe and violated, the rules of the group broken .. that anything we said was of value and to not minimize etc. I decided not to go back. I felt stressed. I know that feeling now, and I trust my own judgement and I'm fine with my own decisions and reasons. I had explained why I was there. A few days later he emailed me, wanting to talk with me. He called that evening, and explained that perhaps the Alpha group wasnt the right place for me and that I should think of going to the main church sessions, that they would welcome me.
You cant make it up, can you. There I was, vulnerable, explained my reasons for choosing an Alpha group (intro to finding out about Jesus), and got turned away .. and I know why. Funny enough, I had a sense that would happen. And it did.
I suspect that Wayne Dyer was a narc. I'm reading I Can See Clearly Now and it strikes me how special he thinks he is. I also watched the seminar with him and Esther Hicks (California 13 November 2013 - watch it, its amazing) but it struck me he's a horrible listener, a huge braggart and a massive manipulator. It would be interesting to hear what others think.
Nothing he wrote was original. It seems he mentally plagiarised everything he ever read which is in line with stealing personality traits and facts from sources to make up his own false self (as they do). He had an alcoholic and abandoning father, was in and out of foster homes for the first ten years of his life, divorced three times, had leukaemia and died of a heart attack. Sure, we're human, but I'm not sure about the purity of this one.
what that man said and showed us changed my life, that is not what a narc does
Saadia Kiyani Are you kidding? Narcs want to do nothing BUT change people's lives. Not all narcs are overt malignant - a lot of them are covert 'altruistic'. Cults have leaders like this - and the New Thought Movement is a bit of a cult - it was easy for him to jump on the bandwagon and reflect in its glory. Again - his ideas are not his own. He regurgitated them from others.
rainybroons what is this ?
Finally!!! Someone can see what i have always noticed about Wayne Dyer!!! Its just that the things he says are such high livel spirituality that no one would dare say that about this "god like" guy.
Addicted to control and manipulaion. Feel the same about Scott Peck, gurus are not always good. Also some psychologists have freaked me out, lot of sickos there.
Whoa WHOA!!!!!!!!!
Omg for months I've had this great tingling in the back of my head and I had no idea why, I got scared it was a tumor or something, but at the same time I felt it wasn't medically seriously, that I just had to stop putting too much pressure on the side of my head from sleeping.
as time went on however, I got twitchy like I wanted to explode emotionally. I was afraid though, but Soon, I would be in my car and let out as much screaming and swearing as I can because I felt like I was balloom that was being inflated with too much helium that I NEEDED to explode, but since I kept it in, i was just destroying myself, i was denying what in reality is supposed to happen. When a balloon reaches it limit, it pops, no holding back. But I was.
After lots of screaming and saying things I wanted to say but couldn't, like, "NO, DO IT YOURSELF, STAY THE F AWAY FROM ME!!!!" The tingling I my head felt sooooo much better, now what's left is this weird sensation in the place where you said spiritual attack entered. It's where top spine ends and where the back of head curves upwards.
I found this other video online that was an exercise to get rid of controlling influences and she would say pretend there's a hook in your head, and it's connected to the person who you want to disconnect from. Pull it out as hard as you can.
I remember pretending to pull out a hook in the back of my head, that spiritual attack area, and strangely it brings some relief.
Angel0Whispers -thank you- I shall try this.
When 1st broke intense (codependant very enmeshed ) contact with extremely controlling covert n mother; my neck would literally "crack"...now it is literally Just in areas around back But my lungs ....all down the back of body; interestingly. Sneaky! I'm onto it now more. We have been fuel.
I'm with you....do you get cold at the back of your neck more than any other part of your body?
wow! this video has it all! thanx for the validations on my intuitive conclusions...
Great video. ..It's like narcs, sociopaths ,borderlines are just coming out the woods lately.
I was with a covert narcissist and didn’t even realize it till after the discard and his attempt to destroy me... but really, he set me freeeeeeeeeeeee!!! I can focus on myself, heal and then continue my mission for #worldpeace ❤️❤️❤️
Yes, this is where I ran into the worst narcissist I ever met, in a church group program. They target these vulnerable types of people.
Wolves in sheep’s clothing 😏
I discovered these videos at just the moment I needed them. I’ve learned so many mental tools from your videos that have kept me from being duped by an ex. Thank you!
Oh wow, spot on! My narc was the first guy i met that was into spirituality. I thought it was awkward, since he’s appears quite the macho guy, but endearing at the same time. He called me twin flame and that whatnot too. The sex was best ever, i will never have that again. His belief is all spiritual, but his behaviour definately isn’t. I will never trust spiritual people again due to him.
I was online recently and noticed a fellow new ager getting attacked for his point of view in a chat room--so I made a supportive statement--and WHOOSH--I was swept off to narc city! It didn't take long to see (because I became a therapist since my last in-person narc) what was happening. It came with one statement: "man, you really don't like it when you don't get your way, do you?" I cyber-stayed around out of curiosity and got to see the stonewalling, gas lighting...all of it. "It's just research" I told myself. Then, he pulled some stuff that messed with my head--and I blocked him, both online and phone. But.....I felt the familiar compulsive urge to call him!!! WTF??? Still firm with no contact....but it is still clear I have a strong magnetic attraction to Cluster B's and that is reciprocal. How timely was your video...eh?
Peggy Genoway yes,I think on yu tube anytime someone gets attacked, it is from a Narc who is trolling, looking for victims. You were just in the wrong place at the wrong time. Peace to you.
Peggy Genoway - poor you. Nasty. I have seen them too looking for good fuel from us empaths. They just Love to downplay the misery and pain of someone abused. I have defended others when seen it. Hateful behaviour. I call it: attempting to Re-Shame us. We all know; to be vulnerable kills former shame(work of Brené Brown); so they stink and are totally unhealthy; wishing to halt our healing from a he'll they often have caused elsewhere. So they come on here to dump it; like overspill; as NOTHING can contain their malevolence. Like cowards that they are; the lot of them.
This has been explained so perfectly. I needed to hear this because it happened to me.
Prayer did it for me.
Great video an complements for being bold enough to talk about these spooky stuff!!
My neck is STILL popping from a psychic attack last year. I had a guy always showing up in my dreams over and over...at some point last year I woke up in the astral plane with whatever it was and was energetically vampired by the entity/person? My life force was completely drained from me. I knew something was happening to my astral body but couldn’t figure out what it was. I finally figured out what it was, an astral vampire was on my astral body syphoning my life force. It looked like him but who knows who it really was but eventually I did catch the root of the issue.
I'm so glad I didn't get too deep into spirituality (and especially the New Age stuff) and was swayed away from it. I'm so glad I can't be manipulated by "spiritual" abusers, but I realize how hard it must be to not fall for spiritual manipulation.
Excelent question!! I totally identify with this feeling that we are still connected.
Thank you. I needed this information for validation.
13:40 the lesson as I think is your parents were pushing you for standing up for your self in situations where you were right. So you were denied to have boundaries- reason for school bullying.
In case of falling in love with cold people- distant and emotionally unavailable mother, or father.
Meredith, you are awesome, you know so many things.
Knowledge is power. 🙏🏿
appreciate all the great work u do and all the info u spread out for us. many thanx)
this is happening with 2 people...one male...one female..both are self proclaimed dark witches.
I removed all mirrors from my home...amazing the lessening of bad energy...sounds crazy... but watch the Skeleton Key...I learned from this Movie....the Universe is Love towards me...I send out Love & Light & Blessings to all living beings.
this helps a lot...it is amazing how portals work... amazing how sending out good energy attracts good energy...your video popped up for this very reason 💓💓💓 return all energy to the sender...
and how easy it is to disable ..thank you... excellent video...helps me just to hear you speak these truths out loud. 💟💟💟
What if I cover the mirrors up, or turn the unattached ones, around facing the wall? Would that help, or just get rid of all mirrors? Also what else can act as portals?
Thank you for sharing this. I was searching over the internet about this. I think that Im suffring from spiritual hoovering. I dont know if the person I knew if he is a narcissist or no. Despite the names, I knew there is some thing wrong with this person, I can feel it but I ignored my intuition. I usaslly have strong feeling towards fake people. He started with love bombing and idealization and twin flame story. This person always tell me we are one soul and one body. And we will be togather forever and so on. I was happy in the love bombing stage. I felt like I was addicted. I didnt know how did I ended up searching about narcissism. Now Im ignoring him and have no feeling at all in my heart but I still thinking about him all times. And sometimes suddenly I feel that I missed him so much I feel that I have to contact him no matter what. This is starnge. And the strangest thing that he knows if im going out to a place or something. How did this happen? We live in different countries? Is this a spiritual strength or something? Did anyone face the same?
Totally Tru! You are my favorite! However, when you are already aware of it, and with zero contact or minimum contact it all goes away.
Thank you . You are so on point . We make dumb mistakes by not doing our homework when selecting friends etc.
A holy God is the only protection we have. There are Spiritual Fakers even in the Christian church.
Amen
Yes I am getting a strong feeling. This ex creep sending emotional vibes. Long distance
My wife and I appreciate it so much.
Crazy world
All so true... thanks for your help. the hoovering started around Xmas. I've been so down..draining.. thanks xoxo
This is extremely good information and I appreciate your taking the time to share it. For some reason, your explanations are particularly good. Or maybe it's just because I need to hear them right now. :-)
My cover narc for 28 yrs, never too late start again, thank you, appreciate
👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 oh my gosh thank you, this is so important
For all you incredible survivors🙅♂️🙅♀️... Teal Swan has an awesomely effective "cord cutting meditation" video here on YT; around a 25min vid she'll guide you through gently and simply. A relaxing bath you won't be disturbed in is a great place to do it💕🕊️Best wishes🕊️😚
I believe that Soul ties is the root of this pull.
Big hug!!!!
Thanks for your wisdom
This was so profound and has cleared so much for me 😊 Thank you!
In 2 weeks a new video on the spiritual narcissist comes out!
I am still living this after 20 years
I dreamt with my narc ex-wife during the love bombing phase. I opened myself completely because I thought she really loved me for me. She claimed we're soul mates, finished my sentences, we even had the same knife collection arranged in the same pattern, although I had put mine in boxes in the closet with a picture of how it was arranged (note I hadn't gotten rid of it yet).. Now I feel I've sullied my soul. She keeps a lock box full of crosses, including mine on top, as an offering to Satan whom she worships, while pretending to be a Christian. She's cast a spell over all the souls who's crosses are in there. I feel her sometimes and look out my window and sure enough, there she is driving by my house again.
I had joined a daoistic internet course across the Globe. It turned out that it was an energetic 'tempel' and that gave him/them 24 hr access to my soul. And everybody in the course/circle unconsciously had influence on eachothers lives...that got funky. It also somehow detached me from the outside world as they began to manipulate my inside world.
The internet can be very deceptive because you cannot use all your senses, and you might access it alone, so It limits your perception and a buddys support.
When I heal all this my immune system will be smackingly strong w all the crap Ive been through 🤣
Thank you! Al blassings to your beautiful king soul!❤️🌞
Interessting, I didn't know that existed. Now a lot of things start to make sense to me....
Great video. I found cord cutting to be very helpful.
Perfect question!
Wow 6his is incredible and has answered alot about my situation thank you
Yes, covert is right. Thank you, so much
This just happened to me last week with a guy who commented here... He also has a spiritual awakening channel... I saw some videos... And boom... I feel this twin flame connection bullshit, and I felt I had to constantly think aboyt this guy... Like a drug... That s projection... He (or whatever demons) he has inside were love bombing me, and making me believe I am love bombing him... It was twisted and sickening. Even if I went to pray at night... There was tihis'flame' about a guy I don t even know... And as you said in your other video about spirituality, they have the power to smooth you and open and talk openly about your life... Yet, I don t know that person... Total red flag... So I told him about my past, yet... Even the urgency to tell a stranger whatever secrets or vulnerabilities speaks of their thirst for information... And then abuse starts... I found him in my thoughts all they long... I cut all communication with this guy... Yet, my point is... He projected me... All the time it felt as if I am a poor victim needing him his advices... It felt really sick, when in realuty I am stronger than ever in my spirit, after much spiritual abuse... Supply, supply... That s what they want... Cut the bullshit, and re start the steps from healing narc abuse
Victimization
Separation
Deprogramation
Reconstruction
Reincersion.
Thanks
Wow!!. Thank You. Spot on
My Ex Narc .Covert Narc.
Spiritual Narc . In the spiritual Community. Has thousand of followers on social Media. Uses the Exact spiritual words. Love and light . Makes them think he is the real deal. He uses, Namaste, love and light. And claims his Ablities are out of this world. He tells all his New supply that they are his twinflame, that love is powerful . He uses the same tatic.for Everyone
This is so good. Wow!! Thank you!! I understand now. I wish I new this when I was young with the group I was in.
Omgoodness this has happened to me several times. He came in a dream. I thank the creator I didn't give in.
Life changing! Thank you!!
Dont be decieve. nor be fooled be watcgful at all times! Look out for sheep in wolves clothing and wolfes in sheep clothing.(Behavioral and how they act and talk) hope thids helps! Thats what helped me!!!
Wow Meredith los subtitulos son buenisimos y podemos leer tus videos anteriores en inglés. Cuanto te agradezco por esta informacion !
I have exoerienced this and I get attacked on my lower 3 charkas quite frequently. As I continue to practice my work daily. Makes things clear. Thank you
Wow this is an amazing topic