Everybody wants to be negative but yet these guys saved this mans life! You could see in his eyes that he truly thought he was going to die. Say what you want about their rescue techniques but these guys are heroes who allowed this man to go home and kiss his loved ones again. Good job!
Sorry to be so off topic but does any of you know a trick to get back into an Instagram account..? I was dumb lost the password. I love any help you can give me!
После того, как в декабре 1976 со мной приключилась похожая история, я и мои друзья без ножа по горным речкам не ходили. Охотничий нож в ножнах крепился на спасжилете спереди, на груди. 26.12.1976 - мой второй День рождения.
@@Seryojik032 А к тому, что он зацепился под водой своим снаряжением и нужно было резать, чтобы освободить от зацепа, а потом вытащить человека. Внимательнее ролик нужно смотреть, чтобы понять, что происходит...
As a fellow kayaker this scares the hell out of me... it’s these moments. The ones you don’t expect that can kill you. I got pinned a week on the North Stanislaus in a seemingly mellow rapid on 2 tiny rocks. I was ok and able to support myself until my buddy pushed me into the current... you cannot fake kayaking.
Swear, the same thing just happened to us today!! Mostly calm waters, and a seemingly mellow rapid .... but the current pushed us right into a low lying tree, and when we tried to push away from it, the water fought back that much harder and it filled our kayak, which ultimately flipped us over. Very scary!! My other half wasn't wearing his life jacket because the waters seemed that calm and it seemed like no big deal until it happened. Then everything turned catastrophic. Then 2 others tried to help us and their kayaks flipped as a result. He nearly drowned. But by the grace God of my son, who also fell off his boat trying to help us, was hanging onto a log and was able to grab my husband's life jacket and give it to him. Terrifying experience!
Blows my mind watching this. As someone trained in actual swift water rescue, almost everything they did was making it worse for the swimmer. Yes they finally got him freed and miraculously he was still alive but a good portion of that is blind luck. No life safety rope, no throw bags, no cutting instrument or knife. They took his helmet off, which put the swimmer in even more danger, trapped him on the upstream side of a kayak which was pushing him even further under water, and then moved slow like it wasn’t even a life safety issue. Get a life safety line on the swimmer and the rescuer, and get your hand down there to find what has him stuck, and cut the swimmer free.
Sure thing, Aaron. Every damn thing they did just made it worse, huh? Like pulling him to the surface and keeping his head above water. It wasn't miraculous that he was still alive, it was directly because they risked their own lives and kept his head above water. What blows my mind is all the crass negativity directed at the friends who saved his life. Oh, I'm sure if you were on scene, the whole thing would have gone differently and he would have been out of the water in 1 minute as opposed to 6. Keep telling yourself that. Just don't try convincing me that it's true because I've been paddling for 50+ years and I know better.
@vangmountain Armchair quarterbacks with nasty opinions are a dime a dozen on social media, and I objected to the way some commenters criticized the rescue. I've been paddling for over 50 years and I analyze close calls and fatalities professionally. Accidents can happen in the blink of an eye, and this scene was both complex and dangerous to anyone who responded. It's easy to say, after the fact, that you would have done a better job, utilized different resources, whatever. But the bottom line here is that his fellow paddlers recognized the critical nature of the incident and reacted both quickly and in a way that saved his life. That's a win. If anyone is going to second guess the response, they damn well better take that into consideration if they want to avoid looking like a blowhard and a fool.
@vangmountain I don't claim to be a Swiftwater rescue expert. Few paddlers are. What I do have is decades of experience analyzing close calls and fatalities involving outdoor sports. What I know about river rescues is that they are complex and dynamic situations that often present suddenly and also don't readily lend themselves to easy textbook solutions. This was not a textbook-perfect rescue, but it was a successful one. Any pilot will tell you the same about a bad landing that everyone survived. It was good enough. Because it doesn't have to be perfect to save a life. My objection to all the armchair quarterbacking and unkind comments is that they serve no purpose other than to demean the rescuers, who deserve our thanks and applause for saving their fellow paddler's life. That is, after all, the bottom line goal in any rescue. So unless you're a professional, dissecting the rescue for educational purposes and doing a thorough step-by-step analysis of the incident, people should keep their mouths shut - especially in these social media situations where it's easy to anonymously toss around hurtful comments that do no good whatsoever, and only make others feel bad. We don't have to sit on our hands and tolerate that kind of behavior in paddlesports. It's mean-spirited and nasty, and I believe we should object when we encounter it. I wrote an article on a similar subject for Ocean Paddler's November 2018 edition entitled Blaming The Victims. You can read it here: paddlerezine.com/blaming-the-victims/
@@woofna1948 We can applaud the team for the rescue, and at the same time analyze what could have been done better. That's how we improve and learn. I am a relatively new paddler, just having a few weeks of whitewater under my belt at this point and running nothing above class 3, but I seek out these videos to learn what to do, and what not to do. I think that there are a lot of lessons to be had in this one. For instance, getting his head above water by giving him the bow of a boat, and grabbing onto him was obviously the most important thing. There's no successful rescue if he has no air. My biggest criticism (not bad criticism, just constructive criticism) was that the problem should have become obvious quickly: something on his PFD is stuck on something, and they certainly had enough hands to get someone leaning over the edge of that structure and feeling down his PFD to try and find the issue. The helmet removal made no sense to me. That guy in the boat was also working the whole time to try and remain stable, when someone on that dock could have easily held him in place creating a much more stable system. But like you say, they got him out eventually, and he appears to be ok, and that's what matters in the end. But this guy was not far from drowning under a few inches of water.
This had me watching in suspense with my heart racing!!!! So scary!! I kept yelling pull him out!!! Pull him out!!!! I couldn't keep watching. I had to fast forward to the end. lol. So glad you guys were able to save him!!
I suppose that's easy for you to say that when not "in the Moment" and [probably] not understanding language of the communication that's taking place! (It would be good to see a translation so we can make an informed comment.) Who knows what was going on!? Obvs something was caught under the water, the force was taking him under - so surely the fact that he WAS rescued is the most important thing here! (IMHO) :)
You are wrong - They saved this man life. They stabilised the situation by ensuring he could breath. They assessed the situation. Avoided putting more people at risk. Ultimately, they got him out.
Looked more like eventually someone who knew what to do showed up, told the guys who had been essentially doing nothing (camera guy) to get the hell out of the way and then he got rescued. This whole thing took entirely to much time for anyone to actually do anything.
Thank you for evaluating our rescue operation. We do not say that it was perfect. We show that even on smooth water, when the team is not ready for rescue, you may encounter an accident. Do not repeat our mistakes. Even on a simple river, take everything you need for salvation. We didn’t have a stroporez, a knife. As long as we figured out what the guy got hooked while they found the knife, it took time. Errors are taken into account. At the moment, we consistently practice and attend safety courses on rough water
The helmet was given to another participant. Most people just skated on flat water and came to look at 2-3 daredevils. The protagonist did not receive instruction, jumped without demand and command. Therefore, no one expected such events.
@@woofna1948 Yes they saved their friend, however for the man assisting from his boat - It's not worth risking your own life when it takes mere seconds to put a helmet on.
Года три всё никак руки не дойдут купить стропорез - уже заказываю. Смешной ножик там принесли для спас.работ. Рад что всё хорошо закончилось! И спасибо за видео - такие тоже очень полезно смотреть.
@@mastaangler7055 Have you ever needed to use it? I thought in having a tube to the inside of the boat... after all there's a lot of air there. But never thought of a snorkel... and first time I hear of someone carrying one. Probably not the first safety equipment I would think of but might be a good idea... Cheers!!
He was lucky didn’t went under the floating dock. In that case the current won’t allow the rescuer take him out again! The same goes for someone sucked inside a sewage pipe from a front strong front current
Saw this long ago and it popped up again. Yes ropes could have helped. They could use them to support the rescuers clearing space for them to work. They could have tried to stage upstream and pull him out the way he went in. AS RECOMMENDED. All of you talking smack about needing to use a knife, are either idiots or flat water boaters. You cannot tell from the video what was caught. If his leg was trapped in debris should they have cut it off? Give me a break. If it was his PFD should they cut it off and let him sink? Lose the only buoyancy he has? No. These were good people putting themselves at risk. Ultimately it was his decision, live or die to get on the water that day. Could have been better but we’ll done
I'm with Kayak Boy on this. He's alive. It was a tight space to work in and the kayak that helped to support him was in a tough spot as well. Although it seemed like an eternity watching him get overwashed while trying to get a breath, his companions pulled him to the surface and kept his head above water as much as they could. These scenarios are often chaotic, the rescuers were themselves at serious risk of falling in, getting sucked under that structure, pinned and drowned. They got him out of the water in roughly 6 minutes. Could they have rigged an upstream rope and kept his head above the water at the same time? Who the hell knows? Their friend almost died and they saved his life. That's the ONLY thing that matters here. All this shoulda-coulda armchair talk about cutting him free, and the nasty comments about how shoddy the rescue was are mean-spirited and help nothing. It makes me wonder what kind of kayakers are making those comments. I sure as hell wouldn't want to paddle with any of them.
@@woofna1948 Even simple rigging eats up precious time. It was a very risky location to play in with the structure around, but they did the best they could under the circumstances from what I could see in the film. All went home alive at end of day. (This from a certified Swiftwater Rescue Technician. (No, not just an armchair expert).
Learn russian (?) and you may find out! ;) The force of that water versus the issue at hand (probably part of his body or equipment was caught on something under the water)
Poor schmuck should have had the orange kayak upstream (not downstream) so he would have had support for his head, and not been constantly pushed/pulled under.
@@tomallen6117 Sure, upstream - exactly where the guy was when he got capsized and got caught on something. Sure is easy for mean-spirited idiots to armchair quarterback on the internet. And for the record, Mr. Know-It-All, he's not a schmuck, he's a fellow paddler.
А чё, из всей толпы никто не видел, что у дяди стропы не затянуты? На матрасном сплаве всех по два раза обойдёшь, проверишь, а тут тем более - по десять раз обходить надо.
Матрасный сплав, и каякинг немного разные вещи. Каждый сам должен проверять свою снарягу, обладая каким то опытом. От себя, как участника событий, могу добавить только, что это практически центр города, и не ожидания что этот человек прыгнет. Отсюда вытекающая халатность, один стропорез на компанию и очевидная расслабленность страховки. Выводы сделаны. Человек продолжает плавать в лодке по серьезным речкам и наслаждаться каякингом.
Man it almost seems like he had no business being there.. I want to give him the benefit of the doubt ... Shit happens and if you stir that pot of shit long enough good ole mother nature is going to show you what a good cook she is and make you lick the spoon ..or make you eat a shit sandwich... and leave you up shits creek with a turd for a paddle like this poor guy. When you are doing risky adventure type outdoors activities you are in effect challenging mother nature to a cooking contest and the stakes are your life... She's got all the advantages and plenty of ingredients ... water and gravity being two of her most powerful recipies and together they can literally be an unstoppable Force. You better have Your shit together. Mother nature can be a real maternal fornicator not to mention she's got this buddy named Murphy she's always hanging out with... Met him a few times and he's a total ballbag, dude is a total instigator and a classic enabler around her and they really shouldn't hang out they bring out the worst in each other... You can sometimes get away with messing with that Murphy dude in general and if you're lucky maybe just go to the hospital , go broke, or go to jail . But if you make the smallest mistake when those two are together your probably gonna go to the mourge. So moral of the story, if your equipment sucks if you're not experienced , not in shape, and more importantl not in possession of the mental fortitude or the self preservation skills required for whatever level of activity your participating in then what you are doing is risking everyone else's lives.
Horrible, what a situation!! Think, this poor guy had a lesson for the rest of his life (I was in similiar situation 2000, never forget it)! So dirty water and (industrial) garbage, and no one is interested in this powerful country to pick it out of the water???? After rescu hee could have got a warm cap for his had and gloves, getting out his bones from cold water would be fine. Best wishes for the victim, hope, he is well again!!
He's wearing a pullover PFD held tight by 6 straps and a rescue harness (I own the same PFD). There's no way this thing is coming off safely in this situation, except if it's cut off of him, which is what they apparently did. (Thought you'd like to know, even 2 years late :)
@@Markazor I have a thing about gear, I buy, use and design what is best for me. Just because they say it's the best doesn't mean that it is true in every situation. Personally, I have two chest straps, one back strap and a waist strap with NO back flotation other than the neck flap... to keep your head and neck protected from rocks. They are all certified but all have quick release buckles... two way quick release buckles, now that I am looking at them. I hope that I never have to use them, the releases, but better to have them and not need them.... Like this man, I put myself in rough water but I rarely have anyone with me. That means that it's self rescue or nothing and my equipment is designed and bought with this in the foremost of my mind. Yes, what I do is dangerous, even foolish to some but it is worth it to me. I don't guide, I don't lead nor do I promote what I do as a good idea simply because someone will try it and the one that fails would be my responsibility. I've been at it for 25 years and there have been accidents and extreme encounters but because of equipment choices I've always been able to get to the take-out, if not a little bit late. I appreciate your reply and thank you for your time, rest assured that I won't be wearing one of those, the 99.999% safety ratings just caught a snag. We all know that white and cold water are dangerous, anybody that thinks differently is a body slated for recovery. Stay safe.
@@vaughntaylor7638 That PFD (Astral Designs Green Jacket) ain't that bad, but I understand where you're coming from. I used to have a few loose loops hanging out of my PFD, like a cow's tail and a camel back hydration bag, but now I go by the clean line principle (www.raftingmag.com/rafting-magazine/keep-it-clean, coincidentally, this very same clip is referenced in this article). I'm curious about your PFD. Is it a customization of an off-the-shelf model?
@@Markazor while I have customized several off the shelf PFDs, I also design and test my own for future patent purposes. I have this thing about "clean lines" as you put it.... if it can snag, it will. I have a long line of products that I have tested and had certified. This is a retirement program that I will be launching in 2024. I will never belittle a certified product but that said I will remark on possible or alternate options, quick release buckles being one of them. They are available to modify existing products, I use a dual release for my rough water gear. Not only can you release the camlock but you can release the buckle, both with one hand... one hand for you and one for the gear. As to where I'm coming from... His gear may have been some of the best but that was a lesson in choice and circumstance. I'm thankful that he had help and that he is alive, had that been me my vest knife would have already been used. As I said I'm mostly alone out there, if it is not self rescue it's recovery.
Sure, Barry. Now if only you had been on scene with your vastly superior knowledge and rescue skills, surely he would have been out the the water in 1 minute tops. Why you feel compelled to make ugly comments is completely incomprehensible to me. What's your point? If you had something substantive to contribute - something educational and pertinent, why not say so? Give us the benefit of your wisdom. But no, all you bring to the table is nastiness. You should be ashamed of yourself.
@@woofna1948 your commenting on my response from 2 years ago. You must be lonely. I’m sorry you are so lonely. Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to you my friend. God bless you and all your loved ones.
Oh, wow, Richard, so you've been to Perm and know that stream! Thanks for chiming in! I mean, if it wasn't for your sage and informed observation, I would have thought it was just a little muddy rainwater, running high.
Kayaking. It's all good until it isn't...then it's like this. Its easy to say a bunch of stuff could have been done differently but I wasnt there so why preach? Glad everyone is OK.
Everybody wants to be negative but yet these guys saved this mans life! You could see in his eyes that he truly thought he was going to die. Say what you want about their rescue techniques but these guys are heroes who allowed this man to go home and kiss his loved ones again. Good job!
Sorry to be so off topic but does any of you know a trick to get back into an Instagram account..?
I was dumb lost the password. I love any help you can give me!
If they actually practiced them,, carried the correct safety kit,, then the guy wouldnt have felt like he was gonna die... jus sayin
Bravo les gars ! !!!❤❤❤ même si assis dans les canapés 🛋 on peut imaginer d'autres techniques... facile à dire ! !! ❤❤❤❤❤
После того, как в декабре 1976 со мной приключилась похожая история, я и мои друзья без ножа по горным речкам не ходили. Охотничий нож в ножнах крепился на спасжилете спереди, на груди. 26.12.1976 - мой второй День рождения.
К чему тут нож? Я и по Мане и прочим метался.. Тут тупо страховщики не умеют работать..
Не могут поднять человека.. именно тут пипец..
@@Seryojik032 А к тому, что он зацепился под водой своим снаряжением и нужно было резать, чтобы освободить от зацепа, а потом вытащить человека. Внимательнее ролик нужно смотреть, чтобы понять, что происходит...
As a fellow kayaker this scares the hell out of me... it’s these moments. The ones you don’t expect that can kill you. I got pinned a week on the North Stanislaus in a seemingly mellow rapid on 2 tiny rocks. I was ok and able to support myself until my buddy pushed me into the current... you cannot fake kayaking.
Swear, the same thing just happened to us today!! Mostly calm waters, and a seemingly mellow rapid .... but the current pushed us right into a low lying tree, and when we tried to push away from it, the water fought back that much harder and it filled our kayak, which ultimately flipped us over. Very scary!! My other half wasn't wearing his life jacket because the waters seemed that calm and it seemed like no big deal until it happened. Then everything turned catastrophic. Then 2 others tried to help us and their kayaks flipped as a result. He nearly drowned. But by the grace God of my son, who also fell off his boat trying to help us, was hanging onto a log and was able to grab my husband's life jacket and give it to him. Terrifying experience!
@@powerofknowledge7771 hopefully that was a lesson to always wear your PFD
So many rescue vests, so few ropes.
Blows my mind watching this. As someone trained in actual swift water rescue, almost everything they did was making it worse for the swimmer. Yes they finally got him freed and miraculously he was still alive but a good portion of that is blind luck.
No life safety rope, no throw bags, no cutting instrument or knife. They took his helmet off, which put the swimmer in even more danger, trapped him on the upstream side of a kayak which was pushing him even further under water, and then moved slow like it wasn’t even a life safety issue. Get a life safety line on the swimmer and the rescuer, and get your hand down there to find what has him stuck, and cut the swimmer free.
Sure thing, Aaron. Every damn thing they did just made it worse, huh? Like pulling him to the surface and keeping his head above water. It wasn't miraculous that he was still alive, it was directly because they risked their own lives and kept his head above water. What blows my mind is all the crass negativity directed at the friends who saved his life. Oh, I'm sure if you were on scene, the whole thing would have gone differently and he would have been out of the water in 1 minute as opposed to 6. Keep telling yourself that. Just don't try convincing me that it's true because I've been paddling for 50+ years and I know better.
@vangmountain Armchair quarterbacks with nasty opinions are a dime a dozen on social media, and I objected to the way some commenters criticized the rescue. I've been paddling for over 50 years and I analyze close calls and fatalities professionally. Accidents can happen in the blink of an eye, and this scene was both complex and dangerous to anyone who responded. It's easy to say, after the fact, that you would have done a better job, utilized different resources, whatever. But the bottom line here is that his fellow paddlers recognized the critical nature of the incident and reacted both quickly and in a way that saved his life. That's a win. If anyone is going to second guess the response, they damn well better take that into consideration if they want to avoid looking like a blowhard and a fool.
@vangmountain I don't claim to be a Swiftwater rescue expert. Few paddlers are. What I do have is decades of experience analyzing close calls and fatalities involving outdoor sports. What I know about river rescues is that they are complex and dynamic situations that often present suddenly and also don't readily lend themselves to easy textbook solutions. This was not a textbook-perfect rescue, but it was a successful one. Any pilot will tell you the same about a bad landing that everyone survived. It was good enough. Because it doesn't have to be perfect to save a life. My objection to all the armchair quarterbacking and unkind comments is that they serve no purpose other than to demean the rescuers, who deserve our thanks and applause for saving their fellow paddler's life. That is, after all, the bottom line goal in any rescue. So unless you're a professional, dissecting the rescue for educational purposes and doing a thorough step-by-step analysis of the incident, people should keep their mouths shut - especially in these social media situations where it's easy to anonymously toss around hurtful comments that do no good whatsoever, and only make others feel bad. We don't have to sit on our hands and tolerate that kind of behavior in paddlesports. It's mean-spirited and nasty, and I believe we should object when we encounter it. I wrote an article on a similar subject for Ocean Paddler's November 2018 edition entitled Blaming The Victims. You can read it here: paddlerezine.com/blaming-the-victims/
@@woofna1948 We can applaud the team for the rescue, and at the same time analyze what could have been done better. That's how we improve and learn. I am a relatively new paddler, just having a few weeks of whitewater under my belt at this point and running nothing above class 3, but I seek out these videos to learn what to do, and what not to do. I think that there are a lot of lessons to be had in this one. For instance, getting his head above water by giving him the bow of a boat, and grabbing onto him was obviously the most important thing. There's no successful rescue if he has no air. My biggest criticism (not bad criticism, just constructive criticism) was that the problem should have become obvious quickly: something on his PFD is stuck on something, and they certainly had enough hands to get someone leaning over the edge of that structure and feeling down his PFD to try and find the issue. The helmet removal made no sense to me. That guy in the boat was also working the whole time to try and remain stable, when someone on that dock could have easily held him in place creating a much more stable system.
But like you say, they got him out eventually, and he appears to be ok, and that's what matters in the end. But this guy was not far from drowning under a few inches of water.
This had me watching in suspense with my heart racing!!!! So scary!! I kept yelling pull him out!!! Pull him out!!!! I couldn't keep watching. I had to fast forward to the end. lol. So glad you guys were able to save him!!
Thanks for sharing, good public education.
So glad he is ok , everyone stayed calm and got him out .
How fast this wents from a fun moment to absolute life threat. And it takes only 9 Minutes of accident to be on high risk for lethal hypothermia.
This is probably the worst rescue I have ever seen. You all need to take a whitewater rescue course and learn how to react to these situations better.
true!!! David Bruce
I suppose that's easy for you to say that when not "in the Moment" and [probably] not understanding language of the communication that's taking place! (It would be good to see a translation so we can make an informed comment.)
Who knows what was going on!? Obvs something was caught under the water, the force was taking him under - so surely the fact that he WAS rescued is the most important thing here! (IMHO) :)
You are wrong - They saved this man life. They stabilised the situation by ensuring he could breath. They assessed the situation. Avoided putting more people at risk. Ultimately, they got him out.
Looked more like eventually someone who knew what to do showed up, told the guys who had been essentially doing nothing (camera guy) to get the hell out of the way and then he got rescued. This whole thing took entirely to much time for anyone to actually do anything.
Thank you for evaluating our rescue operation. We do not say that it was perfect. We show that even on smooth water, when the team is not ready for rescue, you may encounter an accident. Do not repeat our mistakes. Even on a simple river, take everything you need for salvation. We didn’t have a stroporez, a knife. As long as we figured out what the guy got hooked while they found the knife, it took time. Errors are taken into account. At the moment, we consistently practice and attend safety courses on rough water
Why did you take his helmet off and why did the guy in the boat not have one
The helmet was given to another participant. Most people just skated on flat water and came to look at 2-3 daredevils. The protagonist did not receive instruction, jumped without demand and command. Therefore, no one expected such events.
They are Russians, that’s how they roll!
@@barrymarshall3592 - Yeah, they did exactly what any good paddlers would do - they risked their lives to save their friend. And they succeeded.
@@woofna1948 Yes they saved their friend, however for the man assisting from his boat - It's not worth risking your own life when it takes mere seconds to put a helmet on.
Года три всё никак руки не дойдут купить стропорез - уже заказываю. Смешной ножик там принесли для спас.работ.
Рад что всё хорошо закончилось! И спасибо за видео - такие тоже очень полезно смотреть.
главное этот ножик спас человека. А вообще стропорез нужная вещь. счас даже на тренировках он с собой.
@@permkayakteam : could you please translate Russian comments to English? Thanks.
Glad he is alright good job
shocking, glad hes okay
It seems the water suck him down and he can not get rid of that location.Thanks god he got so many people around him and do they best at that moments.
ah the kayaking Kobayashi Maru, throwline, knife, practice.. all things missing here
Good job of saving him... It is hard in those moments.
Чем зацепился то я не понял , на спине чем то или паховый ремень какой?
Что за спас такой?
Жесть, а по глазам видно было, как он всю свою жизнь вспомнил. Побегу выбирать себе стропорез.
I always pack a snorkel on my PFD,
You're joking?
@@H2Octayo nope
@@mastaangler7055 Have you ever needed to use it? I thought in having a tube to the inside of the boat... after all there's a lot of air there. But never thought of a snorkel... and first time I hear of someone carrying one. Probably not the first safety equipment I would think of but might be a good idea... Cheers!!
@@H2Octayo Yes, They are on most Coast Guard issued PFD’s for rescue, helps display waves on rough weather.
@@mastaangler7055 I can see how it would have help in this case...
вобще опасно катать где технолологический мусор, надо тоже трамвайчик убрать ....жесть , друзья молодцы !
He was lucky didn’t went under the floating dock. In that case the current won’t allow the rescuer take him out again!
The same goes for someone sucked inside a sewage pipe from a front strong front current
Another one of those times where a snorkel would have made a world of a difference...
Never thought of carrying a snorkel, do you actually do that as a kayaker?
has it occurred to anyone that he is caught with his equipment under the water .
MrKwaidy thank you. I also was wondering why he wasn't,just pulled out.
It is in the title...
Saw this long ago and it popped up again.
Yes ropes could have helped. They could use them to support the rescuers clearing space for them to work. They could have tried to stage upstream and pull him out the way he went in. AS RECOMMENDED.
All of you talking smack about needing to use a knife, are either idiots or flat water boaters. You cannot tell from the video what was caught. If his leg was trapped in debris should they have cut it off? Give me a break. If it was his PFD should they cut it off and let him sink? Lose the only buoyancy he has? No.
These were good people putting themselves at risk. Ultimately it was his decision, live or die to get on the water that day. Could have been better but we’ll done
I'm with Kayak Boy on this. He's alive. It was a tight space to work in and the kayak that helped to support him was in a tough spot as well. Although it seemed like an eternity watching him get overwashed while trying to get a breath, his companions pulled him to the surface and kept his head above water as much as they could. These scenarios are often chaotic, the rescuers were themselves at serious risk of falling in, getting sucked under that structure, pinned and drowned. They got him out of the water in roughly 6 minutes. Could they have rigged an upstream rope and kept his head above the water at the same time? Who the hell knows? Their friend almost died and they saved his life. That's the ONLY thing that matters here. All this shoulda-coulda armchair talk about cutting him free, and the nasty comments about how shoddy the rescue was are mean-spirited and help nothing. It makes me wonder what kind of kayakers are making those comments. I sure as hell wouldn't want to paddle with any of them.
@@woofna1948 Even simple rigging eats up precious time. It was a very risky location to play in with the structure around, but they did the best they could under the circumstances from what I could see in the film. All went home alive at end of day. (This from a certified Swiftwater Rescue Technician. (No, not just an armchair expert).
Somebody understand what they are saying? Why they waterboard this guy?
They didn't waterboard their friend, they saved his life. You wanna know what they're saying? Learn Russian. Otherwise STFU.
Каякеры не чиновники, своих не бросают)
thanks for sharing
always bring a snorkel , rule 1 of kayaking
So much industrial junk in the water there worse than tree strainers
Dude is literally stuck in a water pump.
Rapid One yeah, that does not look like a good place to go kayaking at all....
Why did it take so long to pull him out?
Learn russian (?) and you may find out! ;)
The force of that water versus the issue at hand (probably part of his body or equipment was caught on something under the water)
Hard to believe no one smoking a cigarette during all this. Completely loose.
Что в итоге произошло? Трамваем зацепился?
Стропы спасика не затянул, вот и зацепился
об что они зацепились?
Poor schmuck should have had the orange kayak upstream (not downstream) so he would have had support for his head, and not been constantly pushed/pulled under.
Those were my thoughts as well
Then the kayak would have been swept downstream it wouldnt have worked
@@tomallen6117 Sure, upstream - exactly where the guy was when he got capsized and got caught on something. Sure is easy for mean-spirited idiots to armchair quarterback on the internet. And for the record, Mr. Know-It-All, he's not a schmuck, he's a fellow paddler.
А чё, из всей толпы никто не видел, что у дяди стропы не затянуты? На матрасном сплаве всех по два раза обойдёшь, проверишь, а тут тем более - по десять раз обходить надо.
Матрасный сплав, и каякинг немного разные вещи. Каждый сам должен проверять свою снарягу, обладая каким то опытом. От себя, как участника событий, могу добавить только, что это практически центр города, и не ожидания что этот человек прыгнет. Отсюда вытекающая халатность, один стропорез на компанию и очевидная расслабленность страховки. Выводы сделаны. Человек продолжает плавать в лодке по серьезным речкам и наслаждаться каякингом.
Хорошо, что исход ситуации благополучный! Удачи Вам!
@@permkayakteam жесть вообще,ничему жизнь не научила!!!
Man it almost seems like he had no business being there.. I want to give him the benefit of the doubt ... Shit happens and if you stir that pot of shit long enough good ole mother nature is going to show you what a good cook she is and make you lick the spoon ..or make you eat a shit sandwich... and leave you up shits creek with a turd for a paddle like this poor guy. When you are doing risky adventure type outdoors activities you are in effect challenging mother nature to a cooking contest and the stakes are your life... She's got all the advantages and plenty of ingredients ... water and gravity being two of her most powerful recipies and together they can literally be an unstoppable Force. You better have Your shit together. Mother nature can be a real maternal fornicator not to mention she's got this buddy named Murphy she's always hanging out with... Met him a few times and he's a total ballbag, dude is a total instigator and a classic enabler around her and they really shouldn't hang out they bring out the worst in each other... You can sometimes get away with messing with that Murphy dude in general and if you're lucky maybe just go to the hospital , go broke, or go to jail . But if you make the smallest mistake when those two are together your probably gonna go to the mourge. So moral of the story, if your equipment sucks if you're not experienced , not in shape, and more importantl not in possession of the mental fortitude or the self preservation skills required for whatever level of activity your participating in then what you are doing is risking everyone else's lives.
isso sim foi um sufoco
Это в каком месте было , чтоб знать ? Земляки все таки .
впадение мулянки в каму. у депо красный октябрь. м/р заостровка
Personally, being so close to the edge/bank I would have pulled my skirt a lot faster. Yes they did a crap job of trying to rescue him, but well done.
Horrible, what a situation!! Think, this poor guy had a lesson for the rest of his life (I was in similiar situation 2000, never forget it)! So dirty water and (industrial) garbage, and no one is interested in this powerful country to pick it out of the water???? After rescu hee could have got a warm cap for his had and gloves, getting out his bones from cold water would be fine. Best wishes for the victim, hope, he is well again!!
"It was not his time" ... Thank Christ his buddies were there ... and did not give up ...
КРУТЯК...
Антохе привет!!!
Don't be scared now you new these things happen you do stupid things you get stupid consequences
So why wouldn't he, and he knows what he's caught by, remove that gear to save his own life?
Vaughn Taylor with his left hand?
He's wearing a pullover PFD held tight by 6 straps and a rescue harness (I own the same PFD). There's no way this thing is coming off safely in this situation, except if it's cut off of him, which is what they apparently did. (Thought you'd like to know, even 2 years late :)
@@Markazor I have a thing about gear, I buy, use and design what is best for me. Just because they say it's the best doesn't mean that it is true in every situation.
Personally, I have two chest straps, one back strap and a waist strap with NO back flotation other than the neck flap... to keep your head and neck protected from rocks. They are all certified but all have quick release buckles... two way quick release buckles, now that I am looking at them. I hope that I never have to use them, the releases, but better to have them and not need them....
Like this man, I put myself in rough water but I rarely have anyone with me. That means that it's self rescue or nothing and my equipment is designed and bought with this in the foremost of my mind. Yes, what I do is dangerous, even foolish to some but it is worth it to me. I don't guide, I don't lead nor do I promote what I do as a good idea simply because someone will try it and the one that fails would be my responsibility.
I've been at it for 25 years and there have been accidents and extreme encounters but because of equipment choices I've always been able to get to the take-out, if not a little bit late.
I appreciate your reply and thank you for your time, rest assured that I won't be wearing one of those, the 99.999% safety ratings just caught a snag. We all know that white and cold water are dangerous, anybody that thinks differently is a body slated for recovery. Stay safe.
@@vaughntaylor7638 That PFD (Astral Designs Green Jacket) ain't that bad, but I understand where you're coming from. I used to have a few loose loops hanging out of my PFD, like a cow's tail and a camel back hydration bag, but now I go by the clean line principle (www.raftingmag.com/rafting-magazine/keep-it-clean, coincidentally, this very same clip is referenced in this article).
I'm curious about your PFD. Is it a customization of an off-the-shelf model?
@@Markazor while I have customized several off the shelf PFDs, I also design and test my own for future patent purposes.
I have this thing about "clean lines" as you put it.... if it can snag, it will.
I have a long line of products that I have tested and had certified. This is a retirement program that I will be launching in 2024. I will never belittle a certified product but that said I will remark on possible or alternate options, quick release buckles being one of them. They are available to modify existing products, I use a dual release for my rough water gear. Not only can you release the camlock but you can release the buckle, both with one hand... one hand for you and one for the gear.
As to where I'm coming from...
His gear may have been some of the best but that was a lesson in choice and circumstance. I'm thankful that he had help and that he is alive, had that been me my vest knife would have already been used. As I said I'm mostly alone out there, if it is not self rescue it's recovery.
and thats why a rescue knife is recomended good for cutting him loose
@@johnnycharles702 ofc you can carry knives here wtf
Охуеть! Только что посмотрел. Стремно. В одиночку точно утонул бы.
Properly dodgy spot to go kayaking. Blyat! A couple of throw lines might have made all the difference, I bet the vodka tasted better afterwards.
Capó gran vídeo
PFD can be a real hazard sometimes.
Looked like they were trying to drowned him. Horrible lack of skill and knowledge of kayaking and whitewater rescue.
Sure, Barry. Now if only you had been on scene with your vastly superior knowledge and rescue skills, surely he would have been out the the water in 1 minute tops. Why you feel compelled to make ugly comments is completely incomprehensible to me. What's your point? If you had something substantive to contribute - something educational and pertinent, why not say so? Give us the benefit of your wisdom. But no, all you bring to the table is nastiness. You should be ashamed of yourself.
@@woofna1948 your commenting on my response from 2 years ago. You must be lonely. I’m sorry you are so lonely.
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to you my friend. God bless you and all your loved ones.
Where in the fuck are y’all paddling Chernobyl? Y’all are literally paddling in industrial waste??? Cmon guys
Oh, wow, Richard, so you've been to Perm and know that stream! Thanks for chiming in! I mean, if it wasn't for your sage and informed observation, I would have thought it was just a little muddy rainwater, running high.
Kayaking. It's all good until it isn't...then it's like this. Its easy to say a bunch of stuff could have been done differently but I wasnt there so why preach?
Glad everyone is OK.
worst***
dats right
this is the werse rescue i have ever seen
that is the worst spelling I have ever seen
He's alive isn't he, your spelling is the worst!
U hev not sean munny rscues hev you, my freind?
fuk yeah. loose
я же гаварииилааа