sorry to be offtopic but does any of you know of a method to get back into an instagram account?? I was stupid lost my password. I love any assistance you can give me.
@@Wreck-Gar - I would have thought that the ads only raise money for UA-cam, except for the Lancaster Insurance one, because they sponsor HubNut enterprises.
@@MajorKlanga thanks for clearing that up you two 👍 It does make sense, greedy UA-cam. I've noticed that the ads at the start of videos have gone up to two now as well 😒
They want you to fork out extra for their subscription services, so they're deliberately making the standard version as annoying as possible. Ultimately they know that the ad-funded model is not going to last forever. I've also noticed you can no longer run videos in the background whilst looking at another tab on your phone, or stream audio to Google Home, unless you buy premium. Sucks but that's how the internet seems to be going now that it's all controlled by big companies who are determined to wring every last penny from it :(
I had trouble with my 406's EGR valve leaking exhaust into the engine bay and cabin - diesel exhaust is much harder to miss though! Certainly worth considering with an older car.
pmailkeey I am on Epilim. it's used for epilepsy but it seems to work to control the migraine. if it gets too bad then Rizatriptan usually does the trick. I have only had 5 this month, and the Rizatriptan has helped me.
DigitalAura you'll have to change your Doctor. none would listen to me until a new Dr arrived, he is brilliant and has helped me a lot. stick with it, and good luck.
pmailkeey You're right, i take Epilim twice a day and Rizatriptan as and when. I don't intend to see the doc for a while but I will certainly discuss it. I have been under a lot of stress lately with one thing and another which is why I got 5 recent Migrains, they really are fee and far between these days.
Got a rather lovely rover sterling coupe. Beautiful car with the 2.5 V6 . It is very nice trimmed in leather,Wilton carpet and wood veneer. Love the big rovers. You going to love driving this big old barge.
Dyfed/Powys Police used the Rover 827 as area patrol cars, they looked the part when turned into jam sandwiches and were very quick in the hands of qualified traffic officers.
At 17 when I passed my test I also drove a Montego. Was very lucky it was my mum's MG 2.0EFi. At that age and as a new driver the O-Series felt like a rocket!!!
badferrit badferrit good God I remember those 2.0 ltr turbo diesel Perkins they went like lighting. Probably as quick as most modern Turbo diesels today!
This vid and car is really making me nostalgic for the 80's, I remember well the launch of the 800 as quite possibly the final fling of British Rover. Such a shame that Rover's clever engineers were always hampered by lack of funds, compromised design, and/or poor build quality. The car designs themselves were often great. Interesting to see how the HubNut 800 hatch is influenced by the SD1 shape, in a very 1980's angular fashion. I do hope you manage to restore this one to a decent state, but I fear there is a reason so few 80's Rovers survive...
Sitting in a car for a long time with mould growing is not good and may explain the headache ? Take care and watch out for any strange symptoms ongoing. Great looking car - I would start by stripping the brakes down and doing a deep clean before buying replacement parts - new seals and fluid can often work wonders.
"..strange symptoms ongoing .." Like mushrooms appearing in the beard.and colored lights flashing across the ceiling. When George starts demanding his dinner in welsh,you know that mold will be responsible.
I was so into the Rovers back in the day... Mine was the first in the UK with a custom built in CaprPC with 7' touchscreen SatNav, MP3 etc, and boost controller, lowered suspensions, updated brakes, clutch exhaust, air filter etc... I'm stoked that I have happened upon this video. I was a member of the 800 owners club.... Had my main car on track at Silverstone Trax in 2001. I owned 4 800's over the years but eventually I did defect to a Nissan 200SX though in 2003. Get in touch!
What you do in these videos, I'd love to do myself. But since I can't, it's a pleasure to live these journeys of yours and listen to your descriptions. When you mentioned the damp smell on entering the Rover, it reminded me of getting into my late father's Citroen BX, which had been sitting in the garage for months after his passing. Ever since, I seem to go nostalgic, either whenever I sit in slightly damp-smelling cars or when someone's mentions it, as I've just found out.
I like a good road trip. I'll be driving down to Lerwick tomorrow afternoon and getting the overnight ferry to Aberdeen. On Wednesday I'll be driving some 450 miles from Aberdeen to the south Midlands in the 2CV. Looking forward to it.
Great channel, these old rovers are magic. Growing up my dad was obsessed with rovers and wouldn't hear any criticism of them no matter how much they broke and rusted everywhere. He had a SD1 Vanden Plas which has left me with a weird rover obsession.
I can’t wait for more Rover videos!! Great that that a mk1.5 has been saved as the few you see are usually the R17 facelift. Really rare for a carburettor one as they made those for such a short time. Love to see If something like shoving redex down the air intake would fix the idle, like in the good old days of SU carbs! Also think Car Mechanics and your friend Peter Simpson had an 820SI fastback in white as a project car. Love to hear an M16. I remember they seemed so advanced in 1986...
My dad had an 820e saloon on an F plate. I was a named driver on it when I passed my test in ‘92 and I loved wafting about in it at every opportunity! It was a great car but the rust at 7 years old was atrocious! I remember it burning an exhaust valve out as well due to running it on unleaded! Happy times, memories of which have been rekindled by this video! Hope you can work some Hubnut magic on the callipers (rebuild kit) and that the headache wasn’t carbon monoxide induced😖
Indignity at Cat Rustafter 7 years! As I ranted to Mr Hubnut when ordering one of his tea mugs and hats, my 4 year old dream car Harvest Gold Rover 2600 bought when I was 22 in 1984 had all standard acoutrements, including advanced corrosion in sills and wheel arches. It also proved to have the smell of petrol in the back to mask damp odours, the de-luxe passenger side glovebox which filled automatically with rainwater, ability to get me home slowly after head gasket failure and then seal failure of the brake master cylinder. I recall tackling everything myself, even fitting a new exhaust, not trusting Kwik Fit. After six months I was penniless; the ultimate indignity in trying to sell it privately- after stylising the sills an arches with smart black Hammerite was an attempt at a trade-in by another hapless indoctrinated SD1 victim with an even crustier example. I blame my late dad exposing me to Rover with a brief P4 100 spell. He did however have TWO new Marinas which among their other quirks had similar paint quality as the Rover- clumps of it would end up falling off the sills as you washed it....... LEYLAND CARS, A GREAT DEAL AND A GREAT DEAL MORE! Strangely I bought a Peugeot 205 XLD afterwards and 6 years happy motoring at 62mpg.
I bought a N reg rover 400 1.6 with 34.000 miles for £200 motd until September. Sills under plastic sill liner is rotten both sides. Inner sills OK. As I drive it I always think Hubnut lol.
I have a 1999 'v' 825Si currently 'on a ward' I would say after having had it for 2 years now getting all of the mechanical work done on it first. Its the first car I have ever stuck with determinedly to the bitter end ... and yes hubnut ... tyres, calipers, discs add all of that up and you're not short of £1000, except I paid for mine! My next problem is an electrical problem that's just happened from knowhere - I am going to get the key refurbed and get a spare whilst I am at it, and last year I bought a fully functional 825Si fastback on an 'S' .. so anything else I need will be on that ☺... when its all done, I'll have the bidywork professionally tidied up, the alloys refurbed and its going to be probably the best presented 'parliament blue' 825Si on the road .. I already have assigned the T800WAC registration to it for a lovely finishing touch. It'll be another year before its back in use - but at only a genuine 49k, there's plenty of life in him yet!
I laughed out loud at this (sorry). On your video last week about the austin metro I wrote: "the brakes on my 1994 820 were awful. I became an expert at lying flat on my back beside the rear nearside wheel so I could reach the brake cable behind the wheel and jiggle it about until the handbrake released, sometimes in my work suit." and here you are WITH THE SAME PROBLEM 25 years later! I did try to warn you. Cheers.
Well for a Car that's Free, you can't exactly expect Perfection. Good to see Real Live Trouble shooting "On The Run", as it were..! Looks like it hadn't moved for a While. The Joys of Loving an Older Vehicle. Always a Little Tinkering Required. But that's "Why We Love it..!!" Nice to See Welsh Wales hasn't changed 'Gray n Gloomy' one moment, slightly less the next...!! Cheers kim in Oz. 😎
Ian, you absolutely do need to make sure you have the correct caliper wind-back tool for working on the brakes on these, if you just try to press the piston back as you would with a standard caliper you'll wreck the piston and hand brake mechanism and end up with exactly the same issue you had on the way home. These pistons have to be wound back into the caliper as they are self-adjusting to take up wear and also provide somewhat of a self-adjusting action for the hand brake. A lot of 800 calipers have been ruined by people pushing the pistons back in, and a lot of people have been left stranded on the side of the road with the rear brakes locked on after they use them for the first time after pushing the pistons back. In the late '80s and '90s that was one of the most common breakdown calls to the rescue companies as a lot of people and garages didn't know that these calipers needed to have the pistons wound back in...
@@HubNut That's good. If the car is going to be staying around long enough to need the brakes doing again then I'm sure the owner's club can point you in the right direction for the right tools at a good price. It's nice to see an 800 fastback again, especially in white as it reminds me of my old one. The pre-face-lift cars really were very good looking. I think one of my neighbours might still have the Sterling-spec stereo and CD changer that he bought to put in his 825 SLD just before it failed its MoT on welding and he decided to change it for something smaller. He had the complete kit including all the wiring...
Even though I’m a massive old ford fan I’ve always had a soft spot for old rovers. Nice to see a base model too as they are the rarest ones. Can’t wait to see the future videos on the 820.
Beside the little bit rust around the sunroof this is one clean car and this is one of the coolest cars that you have owned since I've started watching your channel
I loved my 89 820e which had the 16v single point fuel injection system. Save it from a scrapyard and swooshed around in it for 2 years before I got fed up of multiple electrical glitches which were more expensive to put right than it was worth. Went all posh and upgraged to a 95 820 SLi which had many luxuries but had the typical 800 dash lift around the instrument panel and suffered head gasket failure. Finally got rid in 2003 for a new Vectra but would have another one in a heartbeat.
I drove an 827 on an advanced driving course, very quick with almost go kart like handling , but whilst negotiating a long undulating road in Lincolnshire we took off and the "wood" trim in front of the passenger/instructor came detached and slapped him in the face! At that time we knew we were in Britains finest! But it was very comfortable and could've been so much better. I enjoyed driving it more than a BMW 528 which was also on the driving schools fleet at the time.
As a fan of British cars, i really enjoy this channel. Seeing another one rescued is really cool. I feel that if Austin Rover would have been sold to Ford or Chrysler. They may be still around.😊
Yup she's a pretty one but they are always expensive. In the meantime put a bottle of Panadol in your travel kit, it's more useful than a tool kit sometimes.
After owning 6 800’s of various ages, specs etc, I still say they are one of my favourites. They were all incredibly reliable and easy to live with. I’ve yet to find something as comfortable. The Mk1 Fastback is the best looking in my opinion and easily one of the most handsome execs of its time. Well done, it really is a fine machine and quite unusual in 820 base spec.
That one clearly has been very loved to still have rear pads with wear sensors fitted. They are, as I'm sure you'll find, quite a lot more expensive than pads without wear sensors. It's a wonderfully simple system, one of the wires supplies an ignition live to one pad that flows to a metal contact buried in the friction material and the other wire is a return. When the pad wears down the contact becomes exposed and the next time you press the brakes the disc completes the circuit and triggers one of the (I think) 3 brake warning lights that illuminate when the hand brake is on to indicate that a brake service and new pads will be needed soon. Sticky caliper slides and caliper pistons are a common issue on 800s that have seen little recent use, but unlike a lot of cars with sliding calipers, they're pretty easy to access and can generally be brought back to correct operation pretty easily, much to the envy of just about every Vauxhall owner in the country...
Well done that man! Prior to returning to Oz in 2010, I owned a superb 1990, 827, 5-speed Sterling for a good number of years in Kent, lovely car. Enjoy it.
I love these , this car reminds me of the ex police cars I used to see for sale at auction , thankfully this one doesn't have bunged up roof / dashboard holes and it's a beautifull car - I wish it was mine !
They were a lovely car, I bought a ex demonstrators car from a local Rover dealer in 1989, it was a Rover 827Sl saloon, it was Silver over grey two tone paint work, I had it right up to 2001 when it failed its mot in dreadful style The body work was free from rust which is rare for a Rover, but it failed on the subframe and a hydraulic leak from the power steering rack, so sadly I had to scrap it in the end, but what I can say about it, during the years I owned it it was a pleasure to drive, and with the honda V6 puring under the bonnet it was very reliable, I racked up over 255 thousand miles I have been through germany with it, and gave it a work out on the Auto Bhan, and also it has towed my caravan up and down the country, the performance from the engine was nothing but excellence very very quiet, and very powerful, I remember when Rover brought out the face lift 800 series, they gave me a new model for 24 hours, and it was a bog standard 820 automatic, and it was dreadful, the engine was gutless (it was dangerous when overtaking as it had no power and you had to really thrash the engine hard)
I watched Tony Pond take his Rover around the TT circuit, but, as a motorcyclist, I didn't take much notice! As for your Rover, the words "money" and "pit" spring to mind!
I live near ruabon north Wales, as a hgv driver I used to go down from Wrexham to llanon to collect spring water from tynant spring. Hgv single carriageway speed limit used to be 40mph. From ruabon to llanon it was 40mph all the way, was such a drag.
I think my Uncle had a metallic blue version of your 800 way back in the mid 1990's. Throughout the 90's and early 2000's I can always remember there was a Rover of some sort on my aunt and uncles driveway.
Good to see. There are so few of these left and they were a good looking car in their day - they used to be everywhere. I think the tin worm gets to them though. Can't believe it's 30 years old!?!?
Despite the brake woes and your headache, nothing worse, it seemed like a good day Ian. That really is a very nice looking motor car. Hope its not too expensive to put right.
Awesome motor! As an SD1 owner I naturally love the look of the 800 Fastback. Looks great in white and love the fact it's still got it's original wheel trims. Shame about the probs but sure you'll sort it. I owned a '96 P reg 820 Si Fastback in British Racing Green i bought for £600 when it was about 12 years old. Was ultra reliable, everything worked, but just couldn't sell it...no-one wanted one in 2008!!
Seems a downgrade in styling compared to the SD1 but still a very attractive car. I could be wrong depending on model but poverty spec on an older car like this can be a blessing as it means less to go wrong.
Fully agree with your point about poverty spec, you buy an older car to enjoy it, not trawl the internet looking for parts that are like hens teeth to find
@@MrSteveo114 A dry week and a good SD1 might have had no rust and a dry glovebox. My 2600 at 4 years old doubled the share price of Halfords and caused a national shortage of David's Isopon.
Definitely one of your better choices. It's nice to see that after you have fixed and maintained a bit it will be going into that classic hire thing you were talking about but I wish you could keep it for longer.
I always found that if you press the piston back in using a g clamp the rotation of the threaded end will often supply the rotation to retract the calliper piston. I also found that the frequent replacement of the older moisture laden brake fluid prevented premature failure through internal corrosion of the handbrake mechanism.
We had an 820SI and an 820SLI which were used as family towcars. They were very reliable and dragged a family of five and a 17 foot caravan all over western Europe. Eventually traded up to a Discovery 2 with teh 5 cylinder diesel which was totally awesome and towed at 20 to the gallon! The only reliability issue we ever had was a collapsed wheel bearing, on the caravan!!!
The Jowett Javelin in the beginning sequence of the video - I presently own and drive regularly, one of these; a remarkable car and a good ten years ahead of similarly sized vehicles of its day. Good club in NZ with plenty of parts to support your chariot! Cheers - Col.
I'm rewatching this in September 2020. This Rover was a great choice, it was just that the particular 820 you acquired was in very poor shape, which was definitely a pity. Ah well, I enjoyed all the videos you made about it, they were great to watch.
Drove my first Rover 820 SLI at 19, lovely drive, steering far too light at speed. Loads of rust, decent spec, gearbox went in the end. It was an 1989 car so it was full of rust, loved it though. Also owned an automatic 800 and the T-Series Vitesse which was a money pit for me. Still lovely cars, very rare now. They don’t like to be ragged about, not built for punishment more comfort. Looks a tidy motor, been looked after by the owner.
I drove a black 'L' reg Rover 825 (VM diesel) saloon for almost 250,000 miles..terrific car, based on a Honda Legend? It boasted aftermarket alloy wheels, gorgeous looking car, very comfortable. It eventually went to the scrapyard after three replacement power steering racks..
I wish I could drive my old 1990 Rover 216 again. Ok, it was basically a Honda, which was why it was so good. That car really moved when you revved it hard.
I saw a bearded man in a Peugeot 306 D Turbo Estate yesterday and for a moment thought it might be you on your collection caper! Best of luck with the Rover - I love it!
That tape deck is the same Phillips unit that was in my 1984 Nova. That didn't work either, but it turned out to be nothing more than a loose wire. Central door locking will probably be trickier; I still haven't fixed mine yet. Brakes are often the first thing to give problems on cars that stand around a lot not being used, which is why I always periodically start anything that's been laid up and give it a trundle round the back field. Not high speed stuff but enough to warm everything through and stop it rusting up. The advantages of having a sibling with a farm who lets me store cars there! As for the musty smell of a dormant vehicle, that's easily solved with a magic tree car freshener ;)
I'll always have a soft spot for the 800, particularly the fastbacks with the huuuuuuge boot- did many miles in them and owned more of them than I'd be happy admitting in public. Unusual to see one without the trim bulging over the instruments, I thought that was a standard feature! ;) I even had two of the 820 'Tickford' Mk1 turbos with the turbocharged O-series - fun things (when they worked properly, which wasn't often!)
My dad had one of these. It was a V6 sedan model. He always thought it felt more like a Honda rather than a Rover. It was the last car he had that was made in England in his driving career and after that all his cars were built in Germany.
Glad you got home OK in the end Ian, Love the tail blazer, spoiler and white paint, Other than the wheel trims the 820 looks pretty sporty for a base model Certainly more interesting than a Mercedes E200 or BMW 518i.
Had a Vauxhall Nova in the 90s with a sticky caliper, eventually it got slower and slower, upon inspection the disc was glowing red and the wheel trim had completely warped.
I don't think the stereo is broken. These cars were plagued by electrical issues and it probably blew a fuse due to a short. We have certain Sterling mechanics that still carry on repairs for these extremely rare cars. If you own a Sterling in the United States, you will quickly learn of sterlingfixer.com. I've spoken to Dale as I'm always searching for a 1990 Sterling SL Oxford Edition. Sterling's ran from 1987 to 1991 in the United States. The SLi hatchbatch was introduced in 1989. The hatchbacks are the most rare but I prefer the saloons. Hubnut has made me very happy bringing this car into his fleet. We never got the poverty spec model so this is a rare treat. 😁
Another collection caper delight -- this is exactly why I bought a HubNut sticker and whacked it in my rear window for non-converted to ponder. It's all becoming clear!
Modern SUVs which are plaguing the roads are ghastly things, to me the golden era for cars was the 80s and 90s. Modern cars with down sized eco engines are designed to appease the environmentalists and politicians rather than the keen driver.
This Rover is lovely, but it confuses my senses because it's a modern late 80s design but opening the bonnet reveals a 2 litre engine that looks likes it came from an Austin Princess 2 litre HLS. You wouldn't otherwise know, especially with how quiet and serene it sounds on the motorway. Thought the lowest ever engine was a 2 litre 16 valve fuel injection. Then again, look at how long the Pinto engine in Fords lasted for - until they stopped making the Sierra and made the Mondeo. Again, lovely car though. Can't remember when I last seen one, and I fear the scrappage schemes may have taken a few off the roads - both decent ones and the sheds.
"One of the best cars I've had for a while". Setting the bar low.Good value for the money.
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sorry to be offtopic but does any of you know of a method to get back into an instagram account??
I was stupid lost my password. I love any assistance you can give me.
@Lance Thiago Instablaster =)
Alan Partridge's weapon of choice...
time for us to not skip the ads to help pay for repairs!
I skip ads but not HubNut's channel but I'm not 100% sure how they work. Watching them in full gets the channel owner more revenue?
@@Wreck-Gar - I would have thought that the ads only raise money for UA-cam, except for the Lancaster Insurance one, because they sponsor HubNut enterprises.
I don't think skipping ads makes any difference to the UA-camr which is why ad makers are desperate to make snappy short ads with a catchy beginning.
@@MajorKlanga thanks for clearing that up you two 👍 It does make sense, greedy UA-cam. I've noticed that the ads at the start of videos have gone up to two now as well 😒
They want you to fork out extra for their subscription services, so they're deliberately making the standard version as annoying as possible. Ultimately they know that the ad-funded model is not going to last forever. I've also noticed you can no longer run videos in the background whilst looking at another tab on your phone, or stream audio to Google Home, unless you buy premium. Sucks but that's how the internet seems to be going now that it's all controlled by big companies who are determined to wring every last penny from it :(
I like the 90s rover style. From the 400, I own a 600 and would love a 827
Sudden headache could be exhaust fumes getting in... Possibly through the air inlets? A cheap domestic CO alarm will tell you
I had trouble with my 406's EGR valve leaking exhaust into the engine bay and cabin - diesel exhaust is much harder to miss though! Certainly worth considering with an older car.
Taking a CO alarm with me tomorrow.
Indeed, and it was a bit of a co-incidence that it came on after closing the sun-roof.
Good idea. Might be worth all of us with knackered old cars getting one just in case!
@pmailkeey I did that once with a diesel van. Ended up looking like a black & white minstrel!!!
Ooh my dad always spoke highly of his Jowett Javelin. He loved it. Sadly before my time
Love it. You know you've got problems when the tyres were made in a country that ceased to exist in 1992!
John Wh technically, Yugoslavia only ceased to exist in 2006, when Montenegro broke away. Still, 13 years is a bit old for a tyre.
I wouldn't buy a car unless it had yugoslavian tyres on
The 800 perfectly matches that driveway and house back drop. Probably of similar era I expect.
I loved the traffic warden behind the wall when the rover and metro were parked on the double yellow lines taken photos lol
I have a whole new level of respect for you, Hubnut, when I saw that Howard Jones 'Human's Lib' cassette in your bag!
Ugh headaches suck, I'm enjoying eye pain and cluster headaches at the moment. Glad to see you got home safely.
I have suffered for years with Migraine. I feel your pain, I hope you get it under control.
pmailkeey I am on Epilim. it's used for epilepsy but it seems to work to control the migraine. if it gets too bad then Rizatriptan usually does the trick. I have only had 5 this month, and the Rizatriptan has helped me.
My doc is completely useless and doesn't want to know.
DigitalAura you'll have to change your Doctor. none would listen to me until a new Dr arrived, he is brilliant and has helped me a lot. stick with it, and good luck.
pmailkeey You're right, i take Epilim twice a day and Rizatriptan as and when. I don't intend to see the doc for a while but I will certainly discuss it. I have been under a lot of stress lately with one thing and another which is why I got 5 recent Migrains, they really are fee and far between these days.
Got a rather lovely rover sterling coupe. Beautiful car with the 2.5 V6 . It is very nice trimmed in leather,Wilton carpet and wood veneer. Love the big rovers. You going to love driving this big old barge.
Travelling with a bag of cassettes! Awesome!
Dyfed/Powys Police used the Rover 827 as area patrol cars, they looked the part when turned into jam sandwiches and were very quick in the hands of qualified traffic officers.
"Oh. Sod you then"
This is a very common sentiment shared by every person with a cat.
It's also Bobby Chariot top warm up man's catch phrase.
I am discovering some right little gems that were made before I discovered Hubnut and I am loving every second of them👍🏼
At 17 when I passed my test I also drove a Montego. Was very lucky it was my mum's MG 2.0EFi. At that age and as a new driver the O-Series felt like a rocket!!!
Steven Kent
I had a 2ltr Perkins turbo diesel on a h reg at 20 it was like a rocket
badferrit badferrit good God I remember those 2.0 ltr turbo diesel Perkins they went like lighting. Probably as quick as most modern Turbo diesels today!
Probably due to the weight compared to a modern turbo diesel, that’s why old cars seem faster, they’re a lot lighter.
This vid and car is really making me nostalgic for the 80's, I remember well the launch of the 800 as quite possibly the final fling of British Rover.
Such a shame that Rover's clever engineers were always hampered by lack of funds, compromised design, and/or poor build quality. The car designs themselves were often great. Interesting to see how the HubNut 800 hatch is influenced by the SD1 shape, in a very 1980's angular fashion.
I do hope you manage to restore this one to a decent state, but I fear there is a reason so few 80's Rovers survive...
Sitting in a car for a long time with mould growing is not good and may explain the headache ? Take care and watch out for any strange symptoms ongoing. Great looking car - I would start by stripping the brakes down and doing a deep clean before buying replacement parts - new seals and fluid can often work wonders.
"..strange symptoms ongoing .." Like mushrooms appearing in the beard.and colored lights flashing across the ceiling. When George starts demanding his dinner in welsh,you know that mold will be responsible.
I’ve had lung disease and it’s no fun and mould causes lung problems
Good looking, we had an 827 like that in BRG when I was a kid, bloody fast car and very luxurious too.
Wow all that car for free! 😮
The loan scheme sounds fantastic.
I was so into the Rovers back in the day... Mine was the first in the UK with a custom built in CaprPC with 7' touchscreen SatNav, MP3 etc, and boost controller, lowered suspensions, updated brakes, clutch exhaust, air filter etc... I'm stoked that I have happened upon this video. I was a member of the 800 owners club.... Had my main car on track at Silverstone Trax in 2001. I owned 4 800's over the years but eventually I did defect to a Nissan 200SX though in 2003.
Get in touch!
What you do in these videos, I'd love to do myself. But since I can't, it's a pleasure to live these journeys of yours and listen to your descriptions. When you mentioned the damp smell on entering the Rover, it reminded me of getting into my late father's Citroen BX, which had been sitting in the garage for months after his passing. Ever since, I seem to go nostalgic, either whenever I sit in slightly damp-smelling cars or when someone's mentions it, as I've just found out.
I like a good road trip. I'll be driving down to Lerwick tomorrow afternoon and getting the overnight ferry to Aberdeen. On Wednesday I'll be driving some 450 miles from Aberdeen to the south Midlands in the 2CV. Looking forward to it.
Great channel, these old rovers are magic. Growing up my dad was obsessed with rovers and wouldn't hear any criticism of them no matter how much they broke and rusted everywhere. He had a SD1 Vanden Plas which has left me with a weird rover obsession.
Same air vents and gear knob found in a freelander 😊 lovely car love the fast back
I can’t wait for more Rover videos!! Great that that a mk1.5 has been saved as the few you see are usually the R17 facelift. Really rare for a carburettor one as they made those for such a short time. Love to see If something like shoving redex down the air intake would fix the idle, like in the good old days of SU carbs! Also think Car Mechanics and your friend Peter Simpson had an 820SI fastback in white as a project car. Love to hear an M16. I remember they seemed so advanced in 1986...
My dad had an 820e saloon on an F plate. I was a named driver on it when I passed my test in ‘92 and I loved wafting about in it at every opportunity! It was a great car but the rust at 7 years old was atrocious! I remember it burning an exhaust valve out as well due to running it on unleaded! Happy times, memories of which have been rekindled by this video!
Hope you can work some Hubnut magic on the callipers (rebuild kit) and that the headache wasn’t carbon monoxide induced😖
Indignity at Cat Rustafter 7 years! As I ranted to Mr Hubnut when ordering one of his tea mugs and hats, my 4 year old dream car Harvest Gold Rover 2600 bought when I was 22 in 1984 had all standard acoutrements, including advanced corrosion in sills and wheel arches. It also proved to have the smell of petrol in the back to mask damp odours, the de-luxe passenger side glovebox which filled automatically with rainwater, ability to get me home slowly after head gasket failure and then seal failure of the brake master cylinder. I recall tackling everything myself, even fitting a new exhaust, not trusting Kwik Fit. After six months I was penniless; the ultimate indignity in trying to sell it privately- after stylising the sills an arches with smart black Hammerite was an attempt at a trade-in by another hapless indoctrinated SD1 victim with an even crustier example. I blame my late dad exposing me to Rover with a brief P4 100 spell. He did however have TWO new Marinas which among their other quirks had similar paint quality as the Rover- clumps of it would end up falling off the sills as you washed it....... LEYLAND CARS, A GREAT DEAL AND A GREAT DEAL MORE! Strangely I bought a Peugeot 205 XLD afterwards and 6 years happy motoring at 62mpg.
Rust, not cat rust. Xxccing autoprompt....
Today, I spied a P-reg Rover 418SLD estate at the shops. And my first thought was.... "How HubNut is that?!"
I bought a N reg rover 400 1.6 with 34.000 miles for £200 motd until September. Sills under plastic sill liner is rotten both sides. Inner sills OK. As I drive it I always think Hubnut lol.
@@marklane5222 Ah, just like the sills on my M-reg BMW 525i then!
If i remember rightly that also shared styling with the BMW E30 Tourer of the same era.
I have a 1999 'v' 825Si currently 'on a ward' I would say after having had it for 2 years now getting all of the mechanical work done on it first. Its the first car I have ever stuck with determinedly to the bitter end ... and yes hubnut ... tyres, calipers, discs add all of that up and you're not short of £1000, except I paid for mine! My next problem is an electrical problem that's just happened from knowhere - I am going to get the key refurbed and get a spare whilst I am at it, and last year I bought a fully functional 825Si fastback on an 'S' .. so anything else I need will be on that ☺... when its all done, I'll have the bidywork professionally tidied up, the alloys refurbed and its going to be probably the best presented 'parliament blue' 825Si on the road .. I already have assigned the T800WAC registration to it for a lovely finishing touch. It'll be another year before its back in use - but at only a genuine 49k, there's plenty of life in him yet!
I laughed out loud at this (sorry). On your video last week about the austin metro I wrote:
"the brakes on my 1994 820 were awful. I became an expert at lying flat on my back beside the rear nearside wheel so I could reach the brake cable behind the wheel and jiggle it about until the handbrake released, sometimes in my work suit."
and here you are WITH THE SAME PROBLEM 25 years later! I did try to warn you. Cheers.
Cheers. Handbrake eliminated from my enquiries. Main piston seizing up...
Your videos make me smile. My grandparents used to own a Jowett Javel and I live near Blackpool myself.
Well for a Car that's Free, you can't exactly expect Perfection.
Good to see Real Live Trouble shooting "On The Run", as it were..!
Looks like it hadn't moved for a While.
The Joys of Loving an Older Vehicle. Always a Little Tinkering Required.
But that's "Why We Love it..!!"
Nice to See Welsh Wales hasn't changed 'Gray n Gloomy' one moment, slightly less the next...!!
Cheers kim in Oz. 😎
I had a 97 800 Vitesse when I was about 20. Absolutely lovely motor. Gearbox went after about 6 months.
TONY the legend Pond nice mention RIP aTony 😉 love the 800 Ian .
Really love the Rover, I feel such a need for these long gone cars to be saved. A thing of beauty.
Thanks for reading my comment on the live video! I asked about if it had an SU carb. Great looking car! I always like having tape players in my cars
Can't believe you've bought this beauty! I've literally been looking at the Rover 800 series myself in the past few weeks!
Lovely for a freebie. I love a good bargain. Hopefully repairs wont be too pricey. Hoping you feel better today Ian after a good night's sleep.☺ Xxx
Ian, you absolutely do need to make sure you have the correct caliper wind-back tool for working on the brakes on these, if you just try to press the piston back as you would with a standard caliper you'll wreck the piston and hand brake mechanism and end up with exactly the same issue you had on the way home. These pistons have to be wound back into the caliper as they are self-adjusting to take up wear and also provide somewhat of a self-adjusting action for the hand brake. A lot of 800 calipers have been ruined by people pushing the pistons back in, and a lot of people have been left stranded on the side of the road with the rear brakes locked on after they use them for the first time after pushing the pistons back. In the late '80s and '90s that was one of the most common breakdown calls to the rescue companies as a lot of people and garages didn't know that these calipers needed to have the pistons wound back in...
Visiting a garage who hopefully have the right kit tomorrow.
@@HubNut That's good. If the car is going to be staying around long enough to need the brakes doing again then I'm sure the owner's club can point you in the right direction for the right tools at a good price. It's nice to see an 800 fastback again, especially in white as it reminds me of my old one. The pre-face-lift cars really were very good looking. I think one of my neighbours might still have the Sterling-spec stereo and CD changer that he bought to put in his 825 SLD just before it failed its MoT on welding and he decided to change it for something smaller. He had the complete kit including all the wiring...
@@HubNut brake cube on ebay no 323640170756 under a fiver .
Even though I’m a massive old ford fan I’ve always had a soft spot for old rovers. Nice to see a base model too as they are the rarest ones. Can’t wait to see the future videos on the 820.
Congratulations on the 800 I'm gutted it's not an early Sterling I'm still on the hunt for one.
Lumpy idle could just be carb dashpot needs topping up with oil.
it just needs scraping
paul hunter No way should it be scrapped.
Beside the little bit rust around the sunroof this is one clean car and this is one of the coolest cars that you have owned since I've started watching your channel
From the TV advert for the Fastback "Schnel?" "British Architect"
"Engineering in a -unfinished- finer form"
@@Robert_B_445 I doff my hat to your greater knowledge Sir!
Beautiful car that deserves to carry on. Good luck with it Sir 👍 Tam.
I loved my 89 820e which had the 16v single point fuel injection system. Save it from a scrapyard and swooshed around in it for 2 years before I got fed up of multiple electrical glitches which were more expensive to put right than it was worth. Went all posh and upgraged to a 95 820 SLi which had many luxuries but had the typical 800 dash lift around the instrument panel and suffered head gasket failure. Finally got rid in 2003 for a new Vectra but would have another one in a heartbeat.
Much preferred the hideaway wipers on the earlier car too :)
I drove an 827 on an advanced driving course, very quick with almost go kart like handling , but whilst negotiating a long undulating road in Lincolnshire we took off and the "wood" trim in front of the passenger/instructor came detached and slapped him in the face! At that time we knew we were in Britains finest! But it was very comfortable and could've been so much better. I enjoyed driving it more than a BMW 528 which was also on the driving schools fleet at the time.
As a fan of British cars, i really enjoy this channel. Seeing another one rescued is really cool. I feel that if Austin Rover would have been sold to Ford or Chrysler. They may be still around.😊
Yup she's a pretty one but they are always expensive. In the meantime put a bottle of Panadol in your travel kit, it's more useful than a tool kit sometimes.
you have much more energy than me, I couldn't be doing with all that, feed George and have a cuppy
After owning 6 800’s of various ages, specs etc, I still say they are one of my favourites. They were all incredibly reliable and easy to live with. I’ve yet to find something as comfortable. The Mk1 Fastback is the best looking in my opinion and easily one of the most handsome execs of its time. Well done, it really is a fine machine and quite unusual in 820 base spec.
That one clearly has been very loved to still have rear pads with wear sensors fitted. They are, as I'm sure you'll find, quite a lot more expensive than pads without wear sensors. It's a wonderfully simple system, one of the wires supplies an ignition live to one pad that flows to a metal contact buried in the friction material and the other wire is a return. When the pad wears down the contact becomes exposed and the next time you press the brakes the disc completes the circuit and triggers one of the (I think) 3 brake warning lights that illuminate when the hand brake is on to indicate that a brake service and new pads will be needed soon. Sticky caliper slides and caliper pistons are a common issue on 800s that have seen little recent use, but unlike a lot of cars with sliding calipers, they're pretty easy to access and can generally be brought back to correct operation pretty easily, much to the envy of just about every Vauxhall owner in the country...
Well done that man! Prior to returning to Oz in 2010, I owned a superb 1990, 827, 5-speed Sterling for a good number of years in Kent, lovely car. Enjoy it.
I like that they gave you body coloured door handles even on the base model!
2:35 The best tea in the World ❤
I love these , this car reminds me of the ex police cars I used to see for sale at auction , thankfully this one doesn't have bunged up roof / dashboard holes and it's a beautifull car - I wish it was mine !
Hadn't paid much attention to the Rover 800- thought they had been and gone, but now you mention it they do indeed still look nice cars.
They were a lovely car, I bought a ex demonstrators car from a local Rover dealer in 1989, it was a Rover 827Sl saloon, it was Silver over grey two tone paint work, I had it right up to 2001 when it failed its mot in dreadful style The body work was free from rust which is rare for a Rover, but it failed on the subframe and a hydraulic leak from the power steering rack, so sadly I had to scrap it in the end, but what I can say about it, during the years I owned it it was a pleasure to drive, and with the honda V6 puring under the bonnet it was very reliable, I racked up over 255 thousand miles I have been through germany with it, and gave it a work out on the Auto Bhan, and also it has towed my caravan up and down the country, the performance from the engine was nothing but excellence very very quiet, and very powerful, I remember when Rover brought out the face lift 800 series, they gave me a new model for 24 hours, and it was a bog standard 820 automatic, and it was dreadful, the engine was gutless (it was dangerous when overtaking as it had no power and you had to really thrash the engine hard)
I watched Tony Pond take his Rover around the TT circuit, but, as a motorcyclist, I didn't take much notice! As for your Rover, the words "money" and "pit" spring to mind!
It simply wouldn't be Hubnut if something didn't break on your cars
I live near ruabon north Wales, as a hgv driver I used to go down from Wrexham to llanon to collect spring water from tynant spring. Hgv single carriageway speed limit used to be 40mph. From ruabon to llanon it was 40mph all the way, was such a drag.
Its aged really well, even looks modern, and lovely styling
I hope your feeling better today. Problems on newly bought cars always seen to be worse than they actually are, that's what i tell myself now.
I think my Uncle had a metallic blue version of your 800 way back in the mid 1990's. Throughout the 90's and early 2000's I can always remember there was a Rover of some sort on my aunt and uncles driveway.
Well done for mentioning Tony Pond, an amazing talent that seems forgotten these days, arguably the Nigel Mansell of the rally world.
Good to see. There are so few of these left and they were a good looking car in their day - they used to be everywhere. I think the tin worm gets to them though. Can't believe it's 30 years old!?!?
Despite the brake woes and your headache, nothing worse, it seemed like a good day Ian. That really is a very nice looking motor car. Hope its not too expensive to put right.
Awesome motor! As an SD1 owner I naturally love the look of the 800 Fastback. Looks great in white and love the fact it's still got it's original wheel trims. Shame about the probs but sure you'll sort it. I owned a '96 P reg 820 Si Fastback in British Racing Green i bought for £600 when it was about 12 years old. Was ultra reliable, everything worked, but just couldn't sell it...no-one wanted one in 2008!!
Seems a downgrade in styling compared to the SD1 but still a very attractive car. I could be wrong depending on model but poverty spec on an older car like this can be a blessing as it means less to go wrong.
Fully agree with your point about poverty spec, you buy an older car to enjoy it, not trawl the internet looking for parts that are like hens teeth to find
At the time I was upset with the SD1s demise. Now I see the 800 as being a very worthy successor. In fact it has aged very well ll.
The SD1 was just an odd shaped Box built by people who didn’t care if it lasted a week.
@@MrSteveo114 A dry week and a good SD1 might have had no rust and a dry glovebox. My 2600 at 4 years old doubled the share price of Halfords and caused a national shortage of David's Isopon.
Definitely one of your better choices. It's nice to see that after you have fixed and maintained a bit it will be going into that classic hire thing you were talking about but I wish you could keep it for longer.
Well done, love Rovers of this period. Remember my old mother-in-laws 216 Vittese which was lovely to drive
I always found that if you press the piston back in using a g clamp the rotation of the threaded end will often supply the rotation to retract the calliper piston. I also found that the frequent replacement of the older moisture laden brake fluid prevented premature failure through internal corrosion of the handbrake mechanism.
We had an 820SI and an 820SLI which were used as family towcars. They were very reliable and dragged a family of five and a 17 foot caravan all over western Europe. Eventually traded up to a Discovery 2 with teh 5 cylinder diesel which was totally awesome and towed at 20 to the gallon!
The only reliability issue we ever had was a collapsed wheel bearing, on the caravan!!!
Harks back to my Dad’s red 1986 Rover 820Si. Loved that car.
buy a seal kit and a bit of work and you can get the caliper working cheap, people dont do it because they dont want to do the work anymore
I had an 820 Vitesse , the 2l turbo. Most enjoyable car I ever had! Miss that bad boy.
The Jowett Javelin in the beginning sequence of the video - I presently own and drive regularly, one of these; a remarkable car and a good ten years ahead of similarly sized vehicles of its day. Good club in NZ with plenty of parts to support your chariot! Cheers - Col.
That Mazda is a good buy if you have very DEEP pockets. The Rover looks reasonable with the O series engine.
O series in Ambassador and Princess too, I rebuilt a couple. A good solid engine when treated properly.
Love the fanfare at the end, very moving.
I'm rewatching this in September 2020. This Rover was a great choice, it was just that the particular 820 you acquired was in very poor shape, which was definitely a pity. Ah well, I enjoyed all the videos you made about it, they were great to watch.
Oh wow, a Rover 820 Fastback. What a terrific choice ! So very HubNut. Nice glimpses of Volvo V70 too.
Drove my first Rover 820 SLI at 19, lovely drive, steering far too light at speed. Loads of rust, decent spec, gearbox went in the end. It was an 1989 car so it was full of rust, loved it though. Also owned an automatic 800 and the T-Series Vitesse which was a money pit for me. Still lovely cars, very rare now. They don’t like to be ragged about, not built for punishment more comfort. Looks a tidy motor, been looked after by the owner.
Nice looking Rover, clean lines and very mid 1980s style, love it ☺
I drove a black 'L' reg Rover 825 (VM diesel) saloon for almost 250,000 miles..terrific car, based on a Honda Legend?
It boasted aftermarket alloy wheels, gorgeous looking car, very comfortable.
It eventually went to the scrapyard after three replacement power steering racks..
I've always liked the Rover 800's, rare to see the pre-facelift model these days
I wish I could drive my old 1990 Rover 216 again. Ok, it was basically a Honda, which was why it was so good. That car really moved when you revved it hard.
I saw a bearded man in a Peugeot 306 D Turbo Estate yesterday and for a moment thought it might be you on your collection caper! Best of luck with the Rover - I love it!
On looks alone it looks like a restyled Rover SD1. I think I'd still prefer an SD1.
That tape deck is the same Phillips unit that was in my 1984 Nova. That didn't work either, but it turned out to be nothing more than a loose wire. Central door locking will probably be trickier; I still haven't fixed mine yet. Brakes are often the first thing to give problems on cars that stand around a lot not being used, which is why I always periodically start anything that's been laid up and give it a trundle round the back field. Not high speed stuff but enough to warm everything through and stop it rusting up. The advantages of having a sibling with a farm who lets me store cars there! As for the musty smell of a dormant vehicle, that's easily solved with a magic tree car freshener ;)
I'll always have a soft spot for the 800, particularly the fastbacks with the huuuuuuge boot- did many miles in them and owned more of them than I'd be happy admitting in public. Unusual to see one without the trim bulging over the instruments, I thought that was a standard feature! ;) I even had two of the 820 'Tickford' Mk1 turbos with the turbocharged O-series - fun things (when they worked properly, which wasn't often!)
My dad had one of these. It was a V6 sedan model. He always thought it felt more like a Honda rather than a Rover.
It was the last car he had that was made in England in his driving career and after that all his cars were built in Germany.
Glad you got home OK in the end Ian, Love the tail blazer, spoiler and white paint, Other than the wheel trims the 820 looks pretty sporty for a base model Certainly more interesting than a Mercedes E200 or BMW 518i.
Had a Vauxhall Nova in the 90s with a sticky caliper, eventually it got slower and slower, upon inspection the disc was glowing red and the wheel trim had completely warped.
When I was younger my dad and I were rover men. He had a 618 in white, I had a "sporty" 420 sli in flame red.
I don't think the stereo is broken. These cars were plagued by electrical issues and it probably blew a fuse due to a short. We have certain Sterling mechanics that still carry on repairs for these extremely rare cars. If you own a Sterling in the United States, you will quickly learn of sterlingfixer.com. I've spoken to Dale as I'm always searching for a 1990 Sterling SL Oxford Edition. Sterling's ran from 1987 to 1991 in the United States. The SLi hatchbatch was introduced in 1989. The hatchbacks are the most rare but I prefer the saloons. Hubnut has made me very happy bringing this car into his fleet. We never got the poverty spec model so this is a rare treat. 😁
Stereo is broken. Display doesn't work, so can't enter the security code.
Another collection caper delight -- this is exactly why I bought a HubNut sticker and whacked it in my rear window for non-converted to ponder. It's all becoming clear!
They designed great looking cars back then, isn’t that so much better than the hideous tall SUV’s of today.
ITlooks kind of like an sd1 which is a great looking car thathas had the rear end of a nissan cherry welded onto it. So it's "not half bad".
Modern SUVs which are plaguing the roads are ghastly things, to me the golden era for cars was the 80s and 90s. Modern cars with down sized eco engines are designed to appease the environmentalists and politicians rather than the keen driver.
Hope you enjoyed your trip to Lancashire and cant wait to see more of this rover in the future.
This Rover is lovely, but it confuses my senses because it's a modern late 80s design but opening the bonnet reveals a 2 litre engine that looks likes it came from an Austin Princess 2 litre HLS. You wouldn't otherwise know, especially with how quiet and serene it sounds on the motorway. Thought the lowest ever engine was a 2 litre 16 valve fuel injection. Then again, look at how long the Pinto engine in Fords lasted for - until they stopped making the Sierra and made the Mondeo.
Again, lovely car though. Can't remember when I last seen one, and I fear the scrappage schemes may have taken a few off the roads - both decent ones and the sheds.