The thing I can’t get over is she screams how food is toxic and medicine is toxic… yet she has fake lashes on her eyes and acrylic nails on. No shame, I love my acrylics, but I’m aware that the chemicals and UV exposure can be harmful. It’s the hypocrisy for me
Yes!!! I feel this way with many mlm huns. They are non toxic this and that. They say this all while having all the stuff you mentioned above on. Crazy
As a white woman in a relationship with a black man... Weaponizing the idea of calling the cops on him (which can ALREADY be very scary if you're a man being abused by a woman, knowing that the cops will likely see you as the abuser) is even more cruel and manipulative. He knew that he would be the one in MUCH more danger if cops showed up and she used that against him. That makes me so angry.
There's audio of her telling a friend or someone about calling the cops and she mentions that one time they said they could arrest them both, but the last time she was mad because they didn't make him leave HIS computer there so she could print labels. That tells me she wasn't calling out of fear, but calling as a threat. Then was mad when she didn't get her way. This man lived in pure HELL.
@@UnicornWranglerRed oh yeah, I'm not meaning to make assumptions about her ethnicity, I should've been more clear - I actually phrased my first sentence that way because *I'm* a white woman in a relationship with a black man and I'm very protective over him when it comes to cops and the dangers racism may pose to him (and I think anyone should be aware of these things when it comes to their partner), so as soon as I heard that she would threaten calling the cops it stood out to me. But you're exactly right, and the fact that she's white-passing could still play into "vulnerable white woman" stereotypes and have led to danger for Von. It's so disgusting when people weaponize systemic issues like racism against their partners.
@@maggiedk you're absolutely right.. she should be ashamed. 🤬 No one can truly love someone while benefiting off of using their oppression against them.
As a woman who recently had a total hysterectomy due to cysts, fibroids, and a myriad of other issues that were pre-cancerous I hate when people give the "it is because you eat this or you do this..." My doctor even said that it had NOTHING to do with my diet or exercise--that is was due to a number of factors that I DID NOT cause. Can diet and exercise give us health issues...ABSOLUTELY! There are many people who just get sick because of factors outside of their control. I know I did a ton of things to mitigate my issues but at the end of the day surgery was something that had to happen. :(
Well said. I have endometriosis and people tend to blame that on everything EXCEPT my genetics and bad luck. Diet and fitness helps my symptoms but I still needed 12 surgeries to get the disease under control. People blaming me for the condition is not helpful.
I had a friend suggest a special diet prior to my hysterectomy. Yeah, I don't think that's going to stop the craziness going on down there. Getting everything out also helped my mood a whole bunch.
Yes! Endometriosis, ovarian cysts, thyroid disease… umm I’ve tried everything under the sun EXCEPT to stop blaming MYSELF bc of believing bullshit lies implying my issues are due to my actions. God it’s good to let that shit go!
Yes! My mom had an entire ovary removed due to repeated ovarian cysts, tumors, and her risk of ovarian cancer. I had an ovarian cyst burst in the beginning of 2020. My sister (who has been vegan for 15+ years) had multiple ovarian cysts that burst and put her in the hospital within the past 5-10 years. According to Mrs. McCray, veganism should have prevented my sister’s cysts, yet it didn’t… hmmm almost like diet has no correlation to our genetic predisposition for ovarian cysts.
As an ex Jehovah’s Witness just wanted to add that even though she may have been disfellowshipped it doesn’t take away the heavy heavy indoctrination that has gone on you still mentally are a Jehovah’s Witness until you actively do the work and research to basically deprogram yourself . Love you for exposing this cult and all culty things ❤️
I have a very close friend of mine Who is also an exwitness and I agree with what you’re saying many things about that “religion“ are very very much cult like. I am so very happy that my friend after living her entire life in the church made the decision to get she and her family away from it 💖
@@Firewoman91 What makes this “religion“ very much on the cult like end are the facts that 1. they do not allow women who are being beaten by their spouses to leave (divorce) 2. they encourage you to disassociate with any family members that are not a part of this “religion“ my best friend of over 10 years is a former Jehovah’s Witness whose family is still elders in the “church“ and there are a lot of very patriarchal designed control tactics within this organization that make it very cult like.
@@Firewoman91 maybe in some areas they can but I’ve known quite a few witnesses in my 43 years of life and that’s not the case I cannot tell you how many women I’ve seen that had to run for their lives so I’ve done all the research I need to do but thank you ✌️💜😘 You enjoy your faith all you want I don’t knock anybody for their faith I call out the wrongs no matter what faith it is wrong is wrong right is right I don’t need a God to tell me that.
@@acapp5601 you have to give that person a pass. When told you aren’t supposed to read anything online about the religion or from ex JW because we are apostates that’s part of the programming. They take away critical thinking from a young age because they don’t want people to see the truth about them. I agree with you 💯 because it took me 15 years to even realize I needed to de program and felt guilty even to pray. Once I did the work on myself life has been great!
Around 50:45 she responded to a comment about someone having a gastric sleeve and quitting meat. I have a gastric sleeve too, and yes, sometimes meat (specially beef), is really hard for the stomacth to break down. After my surgery, I commented this to my nutricionist, and he mentioned that I could start reducing meat from my diet and see if I could adjust to a plant base diet, but he warned NOT TO QUIT MEAT COLD TURKEY. I didn't listen, i cut meat cold turkey because "Hey! I take vitamins and other plant based foods have protein too!" After a little more than a week of doing that my body paralized from waist down. I went to the ER and did blood test analysis and came out that my B12 and hemoglobin were so low that my body was starting to shut down from waist down. I was terrified. I couldn't even get off of bed of my own because my legs wouldn't move, and even if someone helped me get up I would fall to the ground because my legs didn't have the strength to hold me up. I couldn't even brush my hair because my hands were starting to shut down too and brushes, spoons, pens, etc would fall off my hands. This happened on December 2020, and I started walking very slowly on my own again on late March 2021. Even to this day, I still have trouble when I want to run. DO NOT LISTEN TO PEOPLE WHO DON'T HAVE ANY MEDICAL TRAINING OR AREN'T PROFESSIONALS ON NUTRITION WHEN THEY TRY TO GIVE YOU A DIET OR NUTRITION ADVICE
She sells Paparazzi... I ask this with all seriousness: Are we sure she's not suffering from prolonged exposure to the heavy metals in the jewelry? EDIT: Finally finished with the entire video. I can only say that it's so sad to see such a level of delusion on full display for the world. "We were made to live forever"? No, baby girl, we weren't. It's my hope that there may be a legal method for her husband's family to have her ability to make his medical decisions taken away from her. There's certainly enough evidence from her social media and the like to show that she is not of sound mind. I know we all have a good time poking fun at the huns, but this one just isn't funny anymore. It's appalling.
I think the worst thing about the popularity of true crime is that laypeople suddenly fancy themselves detectives and can’t distinguish reporting and speculation. I think you did a great job with this video.
I was waaiiitttingg for someone to talk about the jewelry and seizures! I’m right with youuuu! Thank you for covering this so responsibly and as factually as you can! Like you said, some of the coverage on this as home pulling my hair out 😰😭
Me too...same girl same. Im screaming at the screen wondering why. Now I'm not subbed to them and I tried watching a few videos just to see what they were saying, I even brought it up several times in a live, and was totally ignored. Needless to say, i quit watching them. Besides it really bothered me when people would come on the live and be like "I live in Tucson so if you need me to drive somewhere".......🤯ummm like how about no. How about you not do dangerous stuff. Geez maneez, people know no boundaries.🤦
Its scary. I know someone who has grand mal seizures , not often but has had one in the past 10 years. It was related to stress. Having products near you that increases the occurrence of seizures while also living in such a stressful home. My heart goes out to the kids and his family.
One thing I learned from Gabbie's case is that everyone wants to be next Don't F*ck with Cats group of people who solve a mystery. This society has become so obsessed with true crime stuff they are so desensitized to the fact that these are real people. It is gross and I hate it.
Yes, I saw a live stream lastnight with one of the UA-camrs she spoke of. She acknowledged his family was in the chat, then went on to describe his attempt at un aliving himself and how he was found. I was disgusted and left the live. They are so set on cracking the case and throwing theory after theory out there. The panel is hyping them up, the chat is hyping them up, no one stops to think these are people with real lives. There is a way to thoughtfully speak about these subjects without it just being sensationalized.
@@whome9675 Yes I tried to watch some of the content but had to turn it off because of those same reasons. Throwing wild theory after theory out and focusing on things about people's past and their character that have nothing to do with the current situation. One creator is also trying to differentiate themselves from the other but they are essentially behaving the same way.
Licensed addiction counselor here! K is definitely an addictive substance and one that can cause damage to your body. Our organization had a training on it last year because it has become such an issue. Most treatment centers are treating it as an OUD (Opioid Use Disorder). I've met individuals who K has completely destroyed their lives or lead them into a relapse. I'm honestly concerned about her children and if she has been giving it to them. :(
As soon as you said Without a Crystal Ball, I rolled my eyes so hard I gave myself a headache. She is not a reliable source or a good person. Thank you for calling her out.
As someone who has been in a serious abusive relationship, that last part hit me in the heart. I had to cry right along with you. I had attempted to remove myself from the relationship in a similar way and I’m so thankful he didn’t find me, a friend did.
As someone who had a friend successfully unalive himself because of a crazy, controlling, narcissistic wife this one hits me hard. Having to bury someone at 31 years old that I have known since preschool because he felt like that was the only way out and the only way to get out of her grips was high on the list of worst things I’ll have to deal with in this life. My heart is with this man and breaks for him. I sobbed at points watching this.
This man isn't even 30 years old yet, he's so young, and to think that he felt like this was ONLY way out, and he still wasn't even able to escape is heart shattering. It's not fair.
TL;DR Absolutely. Both addiction and withdrawal like any opi. It also have a blocking effect, so you won't get as high as with the normal ones, and the ceiling effect is pretty low, so taking more won't help after a certain extent. If someone uses it to get off something stronger, i guess it's a relatively decent alternative, but long term or as a stand alone drug.... my experience is that you should be cautious and treat it like a weaker opi, like codeine with a blocking effect. If you wouldn't start using codeine daily for relaxation and sleep, you probably shouldn't use this like that either. Effects arr very individual and vary from source to source. Long answer/my experience with it; Definitely. I'm a newly sober junkie and used it as an alternative for subutex for a h and fent habit going on on and off for 10ish yeqrs for a year or so. Worked pretty good for that, kept my tolerance high, and the blockage effects were good enough to make relapsing almost impossible without taking super risky doses and I was in a position where that didn't feel like an option. Gave enough stimuli to the receptors to keep my addiction manageable without getting me high as well. However, after a year or so, I started losing hair and have some blood tests come back pretty weird. There's not enough data on long term effects for it to feel worth it anymore and I thought that I'd be able to stay clean on my own by then. I also had surgery coming up, s I decided to start taper off. Withdrawal was pretty bad. It's not as bad as h or fent but still pretty hellish. Apparently, very individual, some people seem to have almost no wd symptoms and some have full blown h-level wds. Didn't manage to get off it completed in time for the surgery, and it was a horrific experience. I underestimated the blocking effects (different for everyone though) and the post op meds, even the iv fent did nothing. I was an idiot and didn't tell them about my kratom usage, so after 3 refills they had to stop since I had "no tolerance" from their knowledge and it would be too risky to keep pushing. Ended up relapsing on h "just this week after surgery, as soon as the pain subsides and I need to go back to work, I'll quit" 🙄 Too years later I sought out actual help and got on methadone instead. Not perfect, but honestly the best decision I've ever made.
I was in an abusive marriage for 16 years. He was a narcissist and was abusive in every way except physical and sexual. I considered un-aliving myself a couple of times but couldn't imagine leaving my kids with him. The idea of not surviving it though, and being how Von is, never crossed my mind. That is terrifying. My prayers are with everyone and I hope justice is served. I truly hope CPS **is** involved at this point.
I have cerebral palsy, which is a brain injury, not a disease. That’s why it manifests itself in so many different ways, depending on the cause, severity, etc. If our brains could heal, regenerate, whatever - I wouldn’t use a wheelchair. 1 in 3 with CP are unable to walk, 1 in 4 are unable to talk, 1 in 10 have severe vision impairment, 1 in 4 have some level of hearing loss, 3 in 4 experience pain, 1 in 4 have epilepsy, & 1 in 2 have intellectual impairment. And none of those symptoms are temporary or heal themselves.
My heart goes out to Von, his family and their children. Well done Chelsea. You handled an incredibly sensitive, complex and heartbreaking set of events with empathy, dignity and class.✨
I work at a rehab facility and we have a LOT of clients that come in to detox off kratom. the withdrawals from kratom are VERY similar to opioid withdrawal. she's suggesting that you give this to children? are you kidding me???
Her child that was speaking about drinking the tea and what not is so well-spoken and intelligent, when the child said, "It's okay, I'm not embarrassed," I had to choke back tears.
It makes me cry too. He is only 29 years old. It’s the putting him on display and he has zero privacy even in his most vulnerable position. I’m a mom I have a 25 year old son and this really is heartbreaking. So many prayers for Von and his family.
I just got home from the hospital after a failed attempt. Thank you for your compassion and attempt to explain the realities of what leads people to act as he did.
Much love and well wishes to you. If no one has told you this today, you are so very loved and special to all of us on this Earth. It would not be the same without you ❤️ Praying for your mental and physical healing!
I work in a daycare, I take care of 1 yr olds. I am not a licensed healthcare professional. One of my sweet children has had seizures. We have medicine ready to go if and when they happen. We’ve have been coached by a doctor on how we should administer everything properly with lots of paperwork to go with it. She said straight Cayenne pepper under the tongue can stop them???? I don’t even have words for how insane spreading that misinformation is. Absolute insanity
43:08 BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO TEACH THEM. Adults learn to regulate their emotions because they are taught. You can’t just give children a sedative every time they are emotional and expect them to grow up and know how to regulate their emotions. Her kids will be turning to alcohol and drugs in no time. She’s already teaching them to use substances to calm down etc. just because it’s a “natural” substance doesn’t mean it’s not substance abuse.
You, along with other anti-MLM creators, really helped me see the light and get out of that culture. However, this is definitely your best video yet. The time, effort, and research you put into this is evident and so respectful to the family of Von. Thank you for speaking out against other creators who claim to be “reporters”, when in reality they’re all drama. Well done, girl!
Another note: she's teaching her kids when they feel overwhelmed to use a substance. If they feel upset, or need to go to sleep, or just overly excited, take a substance. I hate her. Sorry 😆
It seems like she's giving them the "teas" to put them to sleep and out of her way! Her videos got too much going on in her house with mainly her playing out her script on the live feed like it won't be her problem later because she didn't see anything wrong with it! He can love her but that was a bad love to have, really.
Ugh as a mom , it breaks my heart to hear her say one thing about giving her children grace yet the next sentence is her drugging her children to not deal w them . I deal w tantrums daily and have never thought about giving my baby drugs to calm her down 🙃
Chelsie, this video shows how kind, respectful, empathetic, and understanding you are as a human being! You could have done so much with the information you have access to but you chose not to out of respect for the family involved. That takes a lot of heart! Thank you for being you and for not letting your success get the best of who you are (the way other creators choose to do). You're amazing and I love seeing your growth both as a person and as a content creator! Keep going!
My hubby found his best friend of 30 years in his basement after he did the same thing as Von.... It's been 4 years since that fateful day, my hubby will never get over that ..... I can still hear my hubby's voice when he called me.... Your right, everyone handles these things differently.... Now this lady, idk, definitely something wrong, her actions over the last 2 years seem to get more and more unhinged.... My heart breaks for those kids.... What she's giving them CANNOT be safe or good for them!!!! And no one knows what else goes on behind the scene.... This is just mind numbing....I fell down the rabbit hole.... Very very well done Chelsea....as always!!!❤️
I have epilepsy. No cayenne pepper is going to stop my seizures. I believe in a mix of my western medicine and acupuncture but I wouldn’t stop taking my anti seizure medication. That would be so dangerous.
I work on the Epilepsy team at one of the world’s foremost research hospitals and I was HORRIFIED-H O R R I F I E D-when she said that. When Chelsea said Dre took Von off his medication, I almost passed out… There was clearly no down-titrating or neurologist supervision to get him off his meds. She didn’t take him to the hospital when he was in status epilepticus! SHE IS TRYING TO KILL HIM. SHE *IS* KILLING HIM. Dear god
You did such an amazing job on this video Chelsea. It was so compassionate and informative while not exploiting the situation like Without a Crystal Ball has been. I appreciate the work you put into this and how you so eloquently handled this. Bravo Chelsea. Bravo.
"She's very susceptible to accepting whatever information is given to her" Unless of course it's coming from someone who went to school for 15 years to become an expert on that topic.
This is well documented and respectful. It’s an absolute wild ride. From being a makeup content creator (she’s skillful) to giving dubious health advice while putting her family in a weird place. I hope things will get better for this family because it’s heartbreaking.
I’m only 15 minutes in and love how much info is in this video. Thank you for working so hard on this and putting out fact based information. Your hard work is truly appreciated!
Out of all the videos I’ve seen on her.. this has to be the best video done! Great job babe! This situation is so sad.. I’m praying for von and his family! Sending von, his family and everyone here tons of love, light and positive healing energy! 💗🙏
So, I just wanted to say something. And maybe this isn't the best place to put this, because I have no idea of you'll ever see it, but I feel compelled, so here we go. I've been watching you for a while now... maybe 4-5 months. I've seen some of your background videos and mostly watch for your anti-mlm content. I've noticed something about you that's different from other creators. You get a lot of push back and have even addressed the way you presented things in the past and how you're trying to do better now. But throughout it all, I have been able to vibe with you on a different level than other commentator channels. I couldn't quite put my finger on it until now, but- when you teared up in this video... that look on your face. You care. Like, you genuinely CARE because you've lived through that kind of pain. And so, I think that the thing that I've connected with in you is your realness. Maybe you don't always present yourself in a way that everyone likes, but what you present is a real, flawed, caring human being. And I say that as a true and genuine skeptic- someone that researches things to death and will not take most things at face value. You, dear girl, are real.... and I appreciate your content very much. Anyway- not sure what I hoped to accomplish with this comment, other than letting you know that I hear you. 💙 Thank you for being you.
With out a crystal ball has been in numerous controversies & been sued by large public figures before. She has no boundaries and no integrity as a content creator… I am not surprised that she’s overstepped like this
My brother was a peace corps volunteer and his job was introducing moringa to the northern region of Cameroon. It is a really unique crop that's often given the label "super food" because it contains a high number of daily nutrients and vitamins which in certain areas of the world are hard to come by. If you are looking to increase your daily vitamins, moringa is great but that's pretty much all it does. Also it tastes terrible.
Kratom can be addictive. It does have withdrawals including irritability, restless legs, sweating, cold chills, depression, anxiety, mood swings etc. A lot of people claim it’s was harder for them to get off of Kratom than other hard drugs. It all depends on the person. I started taking Kratom for my fatigue and anxiety not knowing it could be addictive and now I’m struggling to get off of it because of the withdrawal symptoms. My hair is falling out, I can’t gain weight, it’s made my anxiety SO much worse. I wish I had educated myself more before starting because I had no idea. I was told it was like caffeine addiction and it’s definitely not. I don’t advise anyone take Kratom.
Thank you!!! The amount of people that keep saying it is some miracle drug that's perfectly safe, is astounding. I'm in a K group for mothers and every other post is a Mom worrying if it is gonna cause withdrawal in their baby OR if CPS will be called because it is in their system. People really need to educate themselves.
Considering I’m 100% sure he’d be alive, well, and walking around today without her interference and negligence, her statement is even MORE terrifying.
It's scary that many MLM consultants through Paparazzi suffered through poor health before the company was exposed for using dangerous elements like lead and arsenic. They have entire rooms dedicated to their 'business' and are constantly exposed to these dangerous elements on a daily basis. The fact that this woman and her family has suffered through poor health that was possibly brought on by this company is sad. Paparazzi has a lot to answer for, in my opinion.
Also isn’t it bizarre that everyone in the house- including the dog and chicken (!!!!) have had seizures…. But she has never had one???? I have questions….
Also thank you for how respectfully (and accurately) you spoke about addiction and substance use disorder… and you are absolutely correct that just because something is natural that it’s safe- opiates come from the poppy seed or plant. Many opioid addicts will use kratom to withdraw but end up staying on it because it is highly addictive- I know there are a lot of people who use it with no issues, but it’s just so EXTREMELY concerning and actually horrifying she gives this to her children including a 7 year old. This is in the open for the public to see- WHY haven’t CPS been knocking on her door? This is so so so sad. I feel like everyone in that house, including Von, including the animals are being held hostage. She feeds the dog the same alkaline diet with a little dog food mixed in!! The poor dog is having seizures and losing its hair. The 7 year old asked for a picture of meat!! I’m vegan and have been one 30+ years, the only one in my family. If I had children I would never push my diet beliefs onto them!! Their growth is going to be severely stunted- mentally and physically. I just don’t understand how this can go on for so long with so many people watching (all of her MLN team) and no one reporting. I know everyone says she’s changed drastically and she’s like a different person now but when people saw it going on they just looked the other way? I’m sorry but I’m a DV survivor and so many people knew and saw and I was pleading inside for someone to “but in” to my business because I desperately needed help but I was too scared to do it on my own or he threatened to kill my family. After what he did to me I believed him! Sometimes we should be nosy…. I’m just very sad for this whole situation and it’s amazing how one woman has control of so many people and all the damage she’s caused- including all of Von’s family members. It’s just astonishing to me…
The amount of hate and ignorance in the comments section is a little alarming.. Chelsea I think you were very respectful in covering this situation. It's a tough topic to cover, but it deserves recognition. I would have to agree that a lot of Dre's behavior is.. questionable at best 👀
Chelsea, I was so looking forward to this video and you have done an amazing job!! You mentioned an alkaline diet is followed by their family! When the body is too alkaline (alkalosis) it can and will make a person very sick and can even kill someone! I'm a dialysis RN and one of the most important parts of my job is maintaining and restoring the patient's PH balance, which is one of the many lost functions of the failed kidneys. Why would we have this very important function of our kidney's, to maintain PH balance, if our bodies function better in an alkaline environment? I bring this topic up b/c consistently having too high of an alkaline level in the body can cause confusion, seizures, numbness/tingling, tremors, light headedness, nausea/vomiting, etc! I have seen patient's have seizures who were diagnosed with metabolic alkalosis, so not only the exposure to arsenic/lead but also throwing off the body's PH balance with a high alkaline diet, combined with a bunch of supplements, which you truly have no idea how the body is processing everything, could possibly be causing their health issues and seizures as well! Very scary and everyone please take any health claim with lots of research and a grain of salt!! Alternative health/medicine is such a big money making industry now, it has become just as bad as the abuse of main stream medicine! I recently read an article in the American Medical Journal about a healthy 49 year old woman, with no medical history, on no medications, and had no history of drug abuse, who was admitted to the hospital with metabolic alkalosis and come to find out, she followed an alkaline diet and was also an active endurance runner! It was determined that the combination of electrolyte loss from sweating during exercise, in combination with excess bicarbonate in her body because she followed an alkaline diet, lead to her developing metabolic alkalosis! Her symptoms were convulsions, syncope, and dysrhythmias that were resolved with IV infusions to help rebalance her electrolyte levels and eating a regular diet! Also, thanks for calling out these "true crime" channels that just report on the same famous cases over and over, promoting lies and false conspiracies, all in the name of views, clicks, and money! What they do is harassment and abusive towards the victims families! Another famous case that has been exploited to no end is the Shannan Watts case! Shannan's family has begged and pleaded for the crazy conspiracies and harassment to end, and they have now sought legal action, which no victim's family should ever have to do!! I am not someone who supports cancel culture but I do support taking away a creator's platform who states defamatory lies as facts, abusing freedom of speech, and causing more pain to victims families for financial gain!! It's not "helping to solve these case," like many of these channels initially try to claim, however it is shameful, disgusting, and harmful to the victim's families! Sorry my comment is a book, LOL! i just really appreciate the content of this video and who you are as a creator!! The promotion of these MLM supplements as cure all treatments, is not only scamming people out of their money and time, but quite possibly robbing people of their quality of life and health! Thanks for staying spicy and assertive!!😀
This is so fascinating! Also, that’s so cool you’re a hemodialysis RN! I’m in end stage renal failure and will be starting hemodialysis soon. I’m terrified 😭 I’m only 35 and am not eligible for a transplant. Any words of advice? Thanks in advance! Nurses are so under appreciated. ♥️♥️♥️
@@-kortnie Thank you for your sweet comment!🥰 I am so sorry you are going through this and being scared, confused, and having many questions is completely normal! It is allot to adjust to all at once! Words of advice, lean into all of the support around you, not only the healthcare team, but other patients, support groups, family and friends! Being able to bond with someone who is also doing dialysis, who knows what you are going through, can answer questions, provide support, and who can help to ease your fears can be such a wonderful gift when you are going through something so life changing! This may go without saying, but be as compliant with your dialysis as you can possibly be! 100% is not always possible, we are only human, however your quality of life, and how you feel will be so much better if you are active in your care and embrace these new changes in your life. I have cared for many patients, young and old, and when they adjust to these changes and actively take part in their care, not only do they feel so much better, but they more easily adjust to their dialysis, and are able to continue living vibrant and active lives! Of course, this is not how anyone would imagine having to change their lives, but in time and surrounding yourself with loving, caring, and supportive people, you will adjust to the new changes in your life! Sometimes, people will not always understand what you are going through but don't be afraid to speak up for what you need and educate others, so they begin to understand, are more sensitive to your needs, and are able to support you with the new changes in your life! I also believe, sometimes people who love us don't always know what to say or how to help us, and this is why speaking up, and also asking for help when it is needed is so important! I absolutely believe that you will conquer these new changes in your life!! I have seen it with my own eyes! You are in my heart, thoughts, and prayers. Remember that you are not alone and continue reaching out for advice, love, and support!
I think you reported this very well, it's so refreshing to see unbiased information being presented. You can really see the amount of hard work and research you put into your content.
I started your video freshly high. 30 minutes later, I'm realizing this is not the video to be watching freshly high. I'll be back. Commenting for the anecdote and the algorithm ✌️
I'd like to share my Kratom experience if anyone is interested: I too fell into the trap of thinking that is something is all natural then it can't be bad for you and without doing much research I dove in. I have an autoimmune disorder called Sjogren's Syndrome and arthritis. I'm now 46 but started taking Kratom when I was 43 after I stopped breastfeeding my miracle baby (that's another story) At first I couldn't find much info on how to take it or how much. The little bit of research I did helped me settle on starting with a level teaspoon 2 times a day, once in the am and once before my evening run. At first it was amazing. My pain was non existent and the fatigue I had suffered for ten years from my disease was all but gone. I started walking and counting calories and then moved into running. I had never felt to clear and motivated. I ended up losing 80lbs in 8 months, getting in the best shape of my life and running my very first half marathon. Something I would have never dreamed of given my conditions. What happened after that is kind of fuzzy. I know I started increasing my dose at some point but it had to have been gradually because I remember I started going on less and less runs and my eating slowly slid back into my old habits. Somewhere during the pandemic I just stopped altogether. I chalked that up to my daughter starting to toddle (which required a lot more cleaning, energy, etc..), the stress and depression that came from lockdown and the fact that my eating had reverted back to comfort eating completely. I tried several times to get back to my routine but I was so sluggish and weak and my aches and pains started creeping back in. Then the stomach issues started. Constipation like you would not believe, to the point that I was using suppositories, laxatives and on a few occasions (trigger warning: this is disgusting--->) I had to put on a rubber glove and literally dig the shit out of my asshole. Never in my life had I experienced constipation like this, it was /still is actually traumatic, I get anxious when I have to poop. Yet, I still didn't attribute it to Kratom. Around my birthday last year my husband tried to plan a fun day/evening for me and it was all going to be a surprise. My inner self had changed SO much that the thought of not knowing the plans sent me into a rage. I absolutely lost my shit and ruined my own birthday. I had NEVER been so horrible to my husband but the anxiety and stress in my body now had me in a chokehold. My husband is actually a psychologist and only sort of knew I was dabbling in Kratom. He's a pot smoker so he wasn't too concerned for the same reasons I wasn't but after this explosion when I went to him on my knees sobbing to apologize, he told me he was really worried about me and had been for a while but that I had been so on edge that he was afraid to even approach me. I was taking 4-5 heaping tablespoons of Kratom a day by this point. I have spent thousands of dollars on Kratom. My husband has no idea because I pay with crypto and he's not on my crypto account. I had found myself at the bottom of a hole that I didn't even know existed. I'm not a drug user or an addict. I never have been. So, I tried to quit Kratom. I'm now down to 3 level tablespoons a day-which is still a lot and I feel like shit but I'm moving in the right direction. I'm trying to slowly taper my dose because I can't tell you how sick I become without it in my system. I no longer experience any of the positive effects. I have to take it to not get ill at this point. If it wears off in the night when I'm sleeping, I wake up sweating and crawling out of my skin. I get flu symptoms, muscle spasms, blurry vision, headaches and the horrific constipation that I'm now afraid may have damaged my colon permanently. I'm slowly getting there. I have a 3 year old to take care of so I have to be functional but I cannot WAIT until I am out from under Kratom. It quietly turned into a nightmare for me. Kratom can do wonders but it can also LEVEL you. I wouldn't tell anyone to stay away from it because so many people say it saved their lives BUT if you do decide to try it...PLEASE do your research, join the reddit boards, talk to people, read about their experiences, LEARN TO DOSE and don't get your information solely from the manufacturer which is what I did. They don't warn you of the pitfalls. I just wanted to share because I'm sure a lot of people are curious about Kratom. This was just my experience. One thing I've learned is that it affects people differently so you will find all kinds of seemingly conflicting information out there. Just be careful. Please
My mothet was disfellowshipped after having an affair on her physically and mentally abusive husband (that she went to the elders about). So yah. That’s bs and true.
Chelsea, I am just now watching this 4 mos after you posted it. I want you to know you did a fabulous job in relating this story. Your sensitivity, kindness and insight were shining through. Such an awful situation. You did great.
Thank you for being professional and using protective language. This was an incredibly good deep dive. Unfortunately certain OTHER youtubers. Play with with the lives of these families. For clicks and views. And to make as much money as possible. Also they insert themselves into the situation. And have LITERALLY asked people if they have information or evidence on this case. To send it to THEM!!!! And they will send it on. Which is absolutely disgusting. Also on their live stream. They kept saying that Von didn't try to... himself. Because that's not how it works!!!! Wretched and dangerous behaviour. So thank you for showing others how to do it right.
Hey! RN here. With all the speculation and due to it being a (sketchy) suicide attempt, I can almost promise a lot of toxicology has been done. It doesn’t seem like poisoning would be something she would get away with at this point. It would be easier for her to get him gone. The longer he’s alive the more tests they’re able to do. Although at this point I don’t think a lot would come of it. But we do tox screens on so many people I can’t imagine they haven’t run the gamut on him.
@@Nukkie19 she is JW, he is not. I don't believe that the person with POA gets to make decisions on behalf of the patient based on a religious belief that the patient doesn't share.
Why don’t people talk about putting cayenne pepper under your younger for seizures? WHY? WHY? WHY? Because it’s bullshit maybe? You’d think the pharmaceutical industry would be selling cheap cayenne pepper? Her making the claims she does is criminal. She doesn’t look well.
I feel so bad for her husband. He shouldn’t be kept alive because she can’t let go. I’m a nurse and I know that sound harsh but it’s such torture for the person that’s sick. I hope his family takes this to court and gets to take care of his medical management. She’s so delusional. Not just about her husband but about everything she claims.
You're right it's not fair on the person who's sick...my auntie was on a ventilator due to covid 19 and we obvs wanted to keep her on the machine and Keep trying but docs said her lungs are dead and hard/stiff it'll be inhumane to keep her on it so we had to do the hardest thing ever and let her pass. It's incredibly hard and not a decision anyone takes lightly. When the medical profession mention this you know there's absolutely no chance not even 000.1%! She should let him go and be at peace as he's such suffering and it's inhumane x
My mom died in my arms from overdose, I performed cpr for what seemed like forever and emts arrived, they worked on her for a long time too. I was shocked that they got her heart pumping again but knew it was too late. Low and behold, days later she was declared brain dead and I remember having to explain to my family the difference between brain death and vegetative states. If I did not make the decision to take her off life support, the doctors could have petitioned to. Lots of false reporting out there contributing to this confusion. NOBODY can come back from total brain death. Like damn that was triggering. I know how hard it is to see someone you love hooked up to a ventilator and it gives the illusion of life. The beating heart, the rise and fall of their chest… but the things that start to happen to the body when it’s ran by machines and there’s no brain activity is further traumatizing. I made the most of our last 24 hours together after her diagnosis and then I did the right thing.
This is heartbreaking, I'm sorry you went through this! I can relate to seeing a loved one on a ventilator and how their body starts to break down. I recently lost my grandmother who sadly went down hill after having heart surgery and was eventually put on a ventilator and declared brain dead! It is not how I would ever want someone to be mechanically kept alive and our family made the right choice as well!
@@lynnrn8252 Thank you and I’m very sorry for your loss. The break down varies from person to person depending on many factors so I pray you were able to have your goodbye without further scarring. On one hand I kinda see where Dre is coming from because those feelings are inevitable when faced with loss but man, we have to know when to let go and the story as a whole is horrifying. I pray for her kiddos.
When I was watching certain other creators, they were talking about Von in past tense. It really pissed me off and that's when I stopped watching the circus. I mean obviously he is not well, but let the man actually die before we use past tense. It's disrespectful.
Chelsea, you have done an amazing job with this video! Very respectful of the victims. Also, the word "disagreement" instead of "argument" is a distancing word. It could be used to minimise the severity of what happened between them.
This is the content we needed about this story. Thank you. 1) the ending to this video was everything. 2) you spent less than 10 minutes sharing YOUR theories, because in the nicest way possible, none of our theories matter. 3) You give an excellent factual rundown of the situation. 4) Again, the way you ended this video is so so so important.
I’ve always been a huge fan but you knocked this one out of the park. Your professionalism really shows. Thank you for handling this with the upmost respect.
A much needed examination of the entire situation. Too many creators are looking at this as a true crime in the making rather than a tragedy happening in real time. Yes, I have my own theories on what has happened, but it does no good to put them on five hour live streams.
This case is scarier than Michael Myers or Jason could ever be….the real-life horror of what people are capable of and the irony of not being able to really escape your abuser
Former mandatory reporter in Tucson AZ, and from experience calling child welfare multiple times, I can say that hearsay of mistreatment or neglect from someone who doesn't have firsthand contact with said children will be documented but won't likely be acted upon. In other words, making a report doesn't equal action taken on the authority's part. If a sheriff is called, they may do a well check but even that doesn't seem likely if the caller has no relationship or has ever interacted with the child.
There seems to be an overlap between veganism and avoiding doctors hospitals and medicine. However I also notice that a lot of those same people tend to take an abundance of supplements and herbs.
Well done. I have no idea who this woman is and only ever heard of her from your videos. I watched this bc of your intelligence and superb research and documentary skills. Very well done. My heart go out to the guy and his family that desperately want to say their goodbyes respectfully.
Chelsea your presentation of the facts are so professional in this case. Always are but this is excellent work. I’ve already commented it but this is just the saddest situation.
I wasn’t prepared for any of what I just watched and I watched it all. You came fair and not accusatory. This is sad and I think we witnessed (live time) a downward spiral with detrimental consequences.
The father and stepmom of von saw him. Then they had to leave, then dre moved von. Vons mother did and has an attorney currently. She has worked out a deal to see von as of 7-22-2022 she has seen her son! Vons stepmom and father are getting an attorney to try to work out a deal to see him also now. Cps was involved and the girls father has filed with the courts an emergency custody order it was filed 7-19-2022.
"every single part of your body can heal but your brain." haven't she ever heard of heart attacks? when people feel chest pain it is literally because a part of your heart muscle is dying and due to ischemia. or how about, idk, kidney failure? liver failure? bowel ischemia? avascular necrosis of bones? All of which does not regenerate and heal.
Im glad you mentioned without a crystal ball. I couldn’t remember her name (I thought it was Katie something) but she really rubbed me the wrong way with the Gabbie Petito case. First thing she did was dox an innocent woman by going on a live and sharing her license plate number with her audience. Read all her info to everyone on the live and this poor woman who had no idea what was going on was getting every kind of harassment you can imagine. THEN she lied and said one of her “haters” called the police on her and said she was hiding Brian in her home. She said the police and the FBI showed up in full swat gear to search her home. The police had to make a public statement on Facebook (I believe) stating this NEVER happened. Personally I think she should have been charged for this. It was when Brian was still missing and right before Gabby was found…the entire thing was for attention. It’s one of the most disgusting things I’ve ever seen on UA-cam. And it’s a total misuse of her platform. This isn’t the first time she’s been called out for her comments and accusations she’s made in her videos either…If I’m remembering correctly she was sued by Tati (that makeup girl I don’t know her last name). And this might not be true but I did hear some reality tv star was filing a class action lawsuit against her for her blatantly false comments.. Obviously she’s doing it for the views but it’s absolutely irresponsible as she’s purposely misleading her audience. I’ve never really watched her videos and the only reason I know who she is is because I was following the Gabby Petito case and a Florida news anchor called her out! After he said something about it a ton of youtubers made videos about her obnoxious lie and how she doxxed that woman.. Just like Drey, I don’t think their intention is to maliciously hurt someone, I think to them it’s collateral damage to their attention addiction. They want people to notice them and feel sorry for them, they want to be the first person that knows this “amazing new thing that you need to know”, and they want the highest view count possible so they can make money off of us. They’re banking on our ignorance to these topics so we blindly trust them because “they said so”. It’s really sad but both these women need some serious mental health help. I’m not going start throwing out diagnoses since that would be extremely inappropriate but I definitely think they have some behavioral issues that boil down to the need for attention…these are both very smart beautiful women and I refuse to believe they don’t know what they’re doing. They just don’t want to accept accountability… Thanks for covering this CC. I really appreciate how you were able to hold Drey accountable as well as other you tubers who are abusing this situation. Your video is honestly the most rational because you didn’t “pick a side”…you criticized both parties since BOTH are in the wrong.
What you said about how he is now stuck with his abuser is exactly what I thought when she was showing his "tear" rolling down his face. That makes me so sad to think he's aware of things and he's trapped with her. But he's probably not aware. I hope he's not.
That's exactly what I thought. I know one person who was in a coma and she described having what she believed to be some minor awareness of those around her speaking but that it was incorporated into something of a dream she was in when she was closer to consciousness. However, if he is brain dead he would not dream. I don't know what I would hope for him. 😓
I'm only about 4 months late to this video, but I'm here because of Without a Crystal Ball. I'm aware of her legal issues and her lack of good and just plain decent ethics when it comes to "reporting". I didn't know who Dre and Von McCray were until I started watching videos from other creators who were trying to expose KJ for her lies and, well, retaliation. I listened to parts of videos from a few creators who weren't to the point or as professional as I needed to listen to. I mean, give me verifiable facts or don't bother. So then I found this video which I could listen too without cringing in disgust. It was a very well organized video with facts. You clearly separated facts and opinions. You were so respectful of this tragedy and pretty much the destruction of a family. And you had empathy. That is the most important part of reporting any story, and I can't tell you enough how relieving it was to listen to your video. I had thought this was some random family KJ had sunk her teeth into and wouldn't let go of. I had even heard that she reached out to the mother of Von, I think Leticia, and somehow a cash app or gofundme page was set up without their permission, only they didn't get the proceeds. The creator did. Of course I can only speculate, because it isn't verified well at all. Since this wasn't the first accusation of this kind about KJ, I'd been keeping my eyes open, especially after your recent video done on KJ. The only reality show I really watch is "Sister Wives". I listened to KJ's recaps, and finally got tired of her throwing around terms that implied a mental condition the patriarch, Kody Brown, might have. She even got an email from a neighbor of his, and somehow got him to snoop around and take pictures of his property and then send them to her. I thought that was invasive and not a good idea. I commented on it, getting a bit of a snarky answer back which was funny actually. But she totally missed the point. She doesn't know how to be a good journalist. She doesn't know the 5 W's and the H. She doesn't even really know what a fact is that can be evidence, and how it differs from opinions or in her case lies. She hasn't got a bit of empathy and can't put herself in someone else's shoes. She is absolutely sure that she is never wrong and that she is bringing forth justice. Therefore, it only matters that she's ruined a family or another creator's career if she is being sued. The point is I listened to you and heard this family's story. I began to understand the downfall of Dre McCray, and I felt the pain of Von. I felt the hurt and frustration of his parents. I got the real story. So I thank you for that. It is sad and a tragedy. You gave them the dignity they deserved.
I know this one is gonna be heavy, so I'm gonna come back to it when and if I'm in an ok headspace to watch it, but am liking and commenting for the algorithm and in support of Chelsea. What a truly heartbreaking situation. 💔
Today is the first time I've watched your videos and I have to say, thank you, thank you for sticking with facts and calling out the tubers fighting over everything but doing it in a proper manner, and it annoyed me when one of those 2 started given attitude to some viewers, which i thought waa out of order, creators get my respect and sub when they do the job properly, like you just did.
That was the best explanation of this story. I haven’t followed it closely because it was overwhelming all the info out there. You’re a sweetheart and here’s a big hug 🤗 for you getting upset at the end.
I'm a kratom advocate and am actually involved in a study of daily consumers by a national institute right now. I take it as an alternative to pain medicine for chronic pain. People like Dre are why there's so much misinformation out there. It does work on the opioid receptors of the brain, which is why it works so well for pain, and also why it can cause liver damage, just like other pain killers. It has less side effects than prescription pain killers, and many choose kratom over prescriptions because it overall works better for them. I watched my father be bedridden with pain, barely able to get up for the bathroom, (meanwhile being on prescribed fentanyl and Norco,) able to get up and live a normal life by switching to kratom. He was up and dressed, cleaned his house, took a shower, made himself food. The benefits for those with chronic pain outweigh the risks, just as the risks of prescription drugs do not outweigh the benefits of being without pain. It should be regulated for these reasons, as it is just as addictive as other pain killers, and is absolutely not for children. I am horrified to hear anyone give it to kids. The American Kratom Association has had studies done and hired a very capable legal team to fight the misinformation and outright lies put out by lawmakers and the media, and they've proven their case so well that many states fighting to make it an illegal substance have lost that fight. The fear mongering reminds me of the cannabis panic decades ago, when it was advertised on TV as something as dangerous as heroin, causing death and all sorts of crazy things that we now know are not true. As someone who actually lobbies for correct information of kratom to be spread, including everything I just said about its addictive qualities, we don't claim her.
Hopefully his parents can do something legally so they can see him. Doing a live stream in his hospital room and profiting off his situation is just disgusting.
The thing I can’t get over is she screams how food is toxic and medicine is toxic… yet she has fake lashes on her eyes and acrylic nails on. No shame, I love my acrylics, but I’m aware that the chemicals and UV exposure can be harmful. It’s the hypocrisy for me
"My kid doesn't react well to sugar"
Why not babe? It's natural, it comes from a plant.
Yes!!! I feel this way with many mlm huns. They are non toxic this and that. They say this all while having all the stuff you mentioned above on. Crazy
@@ZoeAlleyne true though
Yep.. and people don’t realise how absorbent nails are, god knows what long term damage those chemicals can cause 🤡 but hey whatever floats ya boat
And enough makeup to pave a highway.
As a white woman in a relationship with a black man... Weaponizing the idea of calling the cops on him (which can ALREADY be very scary if you're a man being abused by a woman, knowing that the cops will likely see you as the abuser) is even more cruel and manipulative. He knew that he would be the one in MUCH more danger if cops showed up and she used that against him. That makes me so angry.
Dre is not white, but I’d call her “white passing” and you are completely correct.
There's audio of her telling a friend or someone about calling the cops and she mentions that one time they said they could arrest them both, but the last time she was mad because they didn't make him leave HIS computer there so she could print labels. That tells me she wasn't calling out of fear, but calling as a threat. Then was mad when she didn't get her way. This man lived in pure HELL.
@@UnicornWranglerRed oh yeah, I'm not meaning to make assumptions about her ethnicity, I should've been more clear - I actually phrased my first sentence that way because *I'm* a white woman in a relationship with a black man and I'm very protective over him when it comes to cops and the dangers racism may pose to him (and I think anyone should be aware of these things when it comes to their partner), so as soon as I heard that she would threaten calling the cops it stood out to me.
But you're exactly right, and the fact that she's white-passing could still play into "vulnerable white woman" stereotypes and have led to danger for Von. It's so disgusting when people weaponize systemic issues like racism against their partners.
@@brettneygibbs9047 that's so messed up. I'm so heartbroken for him and what she put him through.
@@maggiedk you're absolutely right.. she should be ashamed. 🤬
No one can truly love someone while benefiting off of using their oppression against them.
Without a crystal ball is disgusting. This is not the first time she’s way overstepped in a “true crime” case.
As a woman who recently had a total hysterectomy due to cysts, fibroids, and a myriad of other issues that were pre-cancerous I hate when people give the "it is because you eat this or you do this..." My doctor even said that it had NOTHING to do with my diet or exercise--that is was due to a number of factors that I DID NOT cause. Can diet and exercise give us health issues...ABSOLUTELY! There are many people who just get sick because of factors outside of their control. I know I did a ton of things to mitigate my issues but at the end of the day surgery was something that had to happen. :(
Well said. I have endometriosis and people tend to blame that on everything EXCEPT my genetics and bad luck. Diet and fitness helps my symptoms but I still needed 12 surgeries to get the disease under control. People blaming me for the condition is not helpful.
Wow, I hope you feel better soon🙏🏽 and I agree with you about Diet and exercise. We all are so different and require specific diets!
I had a friend suggest a special diet prior to my hysterectomy. Yeah, I don't think that's going to stop the craziness going on down there. Getting everything out also helped my mood a whole bunch.
Yes! Endometriosis, ovarian cysts, thyroid disease… umm I’ve tried everything under the sun EXCEPT to stop blaming MYSELF bc of believing bullshit lies implying my issues are due to my actions. God it’s good to let that shit go!
Yes! My mom had an entire ovary removed due to repeated ovarian cysts, tumors, and her risk of ovarian cancer. I had an ovarian cyst burst in the beginning of 2020. My sister (who has been vegan for 15+ years) had multiple ovarian cysts that burst and put her in the hospital within the past 5-10 years. According to Mrs. McCray, veganism should have prevented my sister’s cysts, yet it didn’t… hmmm almost like diet has no correlation to our genetic predisposition for ovarian cysts.
As an ex Jehovah’s Witness just wanted to add that even though she may have been disfellowshipped it doesn’t take away the heavy heavy indoctrination that has gone on you still mentally are a Jehovah’s Witness until you actively do the work and research to basically deprogram yourself . Love you for exposing this cult and all culty things ❤️
Yes!!!!! This!!!!
I have a very close friend of mine Who is also an exwitness and I agree with what you’re saying many things about that “religion“ are very very much cult like. I am so very happy that my friend after living her entire life in the church made the decision to get she and her family away from it 💖
@@Firewoman91 What makes this “religion“ very much on the cult like end are the facts that 1. they do not allow women who are being beaten by their spouses to leave (divorce) 2. they encourage you to disassociate with any family members that are not a part of this “religion“ my best friend of over 10 years is a former Jehovah’s Witness whose family is still elders in the “church“ and there are a lot of very patriarchal designed control tactics within this organization that make it very cult like.
@@Firewoman91 maybe in some areas they can but I’ve known quite a few witnesses in my 43 years of life and that’s not the case I cannot tell you how many women I’ve seen that had to run for their lives so I’ve done all the research I need to do but thank you ✌️💜😘
You enjoy your faith all you want I don’t knock anybody for their faith I call out the wrongs no matter what faith it is wrong is wrong right is right I don’t need a God to tell me that.
@@acapp5601 you have to give that person a pass. When told you aren’t supposed to read anything online about the religion or from ex JW because we are apostates that’s part of the programming. They take away critical thinking from a young age because they don’t want people to see the truth about them. I agree with you 💯 because it took me 15 years to even realize I needed to de program and felt guilty even to pray. Once I did the work on myself life has been great!
Around 50:45 she responded to a comment about someone having a gastric sleeve and quitting meat. I have a gastric sleeve too, and yes, sometimes meat (specially beef), is really hard for the stomacth to break down. After my surgery, I commented this to my nutricionist, and he mentioned that I could start reducing meat from my diet and see if I could adjust to a plant base diet, but he warned NOT TO QUIT MEAT COLD TURKEY. I didn't listen, i cut meat cold turkey because "Hey! I take vitamins and other plant based foods have protein too!"
After a little more than a week of doing that my body paralized from waist down. I went to the ER and did blood test analysis and came out that my B12 and hemoglobin were so low that my body was starting to shut down from waist down. I was terrified. I couldn't even get off of bed of my own because my legs wouldn't move, and even if someone helped me get up I would fall to the ground because my legs didn't have the strength to hold me up. I couldn't even brush my hair because my hands were starting to shut down too and brushes, spoons, pens, etc would fall off my hands. This happened on December 2020, and I started walking very slowly on my own again on late March 2021. Even to this day, I still have trouble when I want to run. DO NOT LISTEN TO PEOPLE WHO DON'T HAVE ANY MEDICAL TRAINING OR AREN'T PROFESSIONALS ON NUTRITION WHEN THEY TRY TO GIVE YOU A DIET OR NUTRITION ADVICE
This is exactly what we needed with our coffee this morning, am I right?
Exactly!
1 hour and 30 mins of beautiful entertainment while I work a slow shift!
No coffee for me til I leave and get to DD but yessssss 😍😆
dinner for me 🥴 i work 3rd/raveyard shift
@@reshster hope u get some rest after!❤
She sells Paparazzi... I ask this with all seriousness: Are we sure she's not suffering from prolonged exposure to the heavy metals in the jewelry?
EDIT: Finally finished with the entire video. I can only say that it's so sad to see such a level of delusion on full display for the world. "We were made to live forever"? No, baby girl, we weren't. It's my hope that there may be a legal method for her husband's family to have her ability to make his medical decisions taken away from her. There's certainly enough evidence from her social media and the like to show that she is not of sound mind. I know we all have a good time poking fun at the huns, but this one just isn't funny anymore. It's appalling.
This is what I think every time I see her or someone mentions her.
Mad hatter disease
This is an interesting idea to ponder. I like it.
That is a very valid question and I’m curious too! Lead poisoning is real and we all know that jewelry has high levels in it
This is what I think is going on.
I think the worst thing about the popularity of true crime is that laypeople suddenly fancy themselves detectives and can’t distinguish reporting and speculation. I think you did a great job with this video.
I was waaiiitttingg for someone to talk about the jewelry and seizures! I’m right with youuuu! Thank you for covering this so responsibly and as factually as you can! Like you said, some of the coverage on this as home pulling my hair out 😰😭
Omg hey sherrilyn ❤️❤️❤️
Me too...same girl same. Im screaming at the screen wondering why. Now I'm not subbed to them and I tried watching a few videos just to see what they were saying, I even brought it up several times in a live, and was totally ignored. Needless to say, i quit watching them. Besides it really bothered me when people would come on the live and be like "I live in Tucson so if you need me to drive somewhere".......🤯ummm like how about no. How about you not do dangerous stuff. Geez maneez, people know no boundaries.🤦
Thank you!!!!
Its scary. I know someone who has grand mal seizures , not often but has had one in the past 10 years. It was related to stress. Having products near you that increases the occurrence of seizures while also living in such a stressful home. My heart goes out to the kids and his family.
Heyyyyy Sherrilyn!! Please do a video on this case too!!
One thing I learned from Gabbie's case is that everyone wants to be next Don't F*ck with Cats group of people who solve a mystery. This society has become so obsessed with true crime stuff they are so desensitized to the fact that these are real people. It is gross and I hate it.
Yes!
It is very gross. I can see the appeal--I like mysteries too. But these are real people. Folks need other hobbies.
Yes, I saw a live stream lastnight with one of the UA-camrs she spoke of. She acknowledged his family was in the chat, then went on to describe his attempt at un aliving himself and how he was found. I was disgusted and left the live. They are so set on cracking the case and throwing theory after theory out there. The panel is hyping them up, the chat is hyping them up, no one stops to think these are people with real lives. There is a way to thoughtfully speak about these subjects without it just being sensationalized.
10000%!
@@whome9675 Yes I tried to watch some of the content but had to turn it off because of those same reasons. Throwing wild theory after theory out and focusing on things about people's past and their character that have nothing to do with the current situation. One creator is also trying to differentiate themselves from the other but they are essentially behaving the same way.
Licensed addiction counselor here!
K is definitely an addictive substance and one that can cause damage to your body. Our organization had a training on it last year because it has become such an issue. Most treatment centers are treating it as an OUD (Opioid Use Disorder). I've met individuals who K has completely destroyed their lives or lead them into a relapse.
I'm honestly concerned about her children and if she has been giving it to them. :(
As soon as you said Without a Crystal Ball, I rolled my eyes so hard I gave myself a headache. She is not a reliable source or a good person. Thank you for calling her out.
She considers herself to be a reporter 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
As someone who has been in a serious abusive relationship, that last part hit me in the heart. I had to cry right along with you. I had attempted to remove myself from the relationship in a similar way and I’m so thankful he didn’t find me, a friend did.
I have as well. I’m thankful to be out of it
As someone who had a friend successfully unalive himself because of a crazy, controlling, narcissistic wife this one hits me hard. Having to bury someone at 31 years old that I have known since preschool because he felt like that was the only way out and the only way to get out of her grips was high on the list of worst things I’ll have to deal with in this life. My heart is with this man and breaks for him. I sobbed at points watching this.
This man isn't even 30 years old yet, he's so young, and to think that he felt like this was ONLY way out, and he still wasn't even able to escape is heart shattering. It's not fair.
Yes very disturbing. I pray they find out what really happened!
You slayed this video. You were respectful, well educated, and sincere. This video disturbed me. I’m a therapist. It was hard but very well done.
You can become addicted to Kratom, coming from someone who used to take it . It was the worst to get off of. It’s so sad she’s giving it to her kids.
TL;DR Absolutely. Both addiction and withdrawal like any opi. It also have a blocking effect, so you won't get as high as with the normal ones, and the ceiling effect is pretty low, so taking more won't help after a certain extent.
If someone uses it to get off something stronger, i guess it's a relatively decent alternative, but long term or as a stand alone drug.... my experience is that you should be cautious and treat it like a weaker opi, like codeine with a blocking effect. If you wouldn't start using codeine daily for relaxation and sleep, you probably shouldn't use this like that either.
Effects arr very individual and vary from source to source.
Long answer/my experience with it;
Definitely.
I'm a newly sober junkie and used it as an alternative for subutex for a h and fent habit going on on and off for 10ish yeqrs for a year or so.
Worked pretty good for that, kept my tolerance high, and the blockage effects were good enough to make relapsing almost impossible without taking super risky doses and I was in a position where that didn't feel like an option.
Gave enough stimuli to the receptors to keep my addiction manageable without getting me high as well.
However, after a year or so, I started losing hair and have some blood tests come back pretty weird.
There's not enough data on long term effects for it to feel worth it anymore and I thought that I'd be able to stay clean on my own by then.
I also had surgery coming up, s I decided to start taper off. Withdrawal was pretty bad. It's not as bad as h or fent but still pretty hellish.
Apparently, very individual, some people seem to have almost no wd symptoms and some have full blown h-level wds.
Didn't manage to get off it completed in time for the surgery, and it was a horrific experience.
I underestimated the blocking effects (different for everyone though) and the post op meds, even the iv fent did nothing.
I was an idiot and didn't tell them about my kratom usage, so after 3 refills they had to stop since I had "no tolerance" from their knowledge and it would be too risky to keep pushing.
Ended up relapsing on h "just this week after surgery, as soon as the pain subsides and I need to go back to work, I'll quit" 🙄
Too years later I sought out actual help and got on methadone instead. Not perfect, but honestly the best decision I've ever made.
I was in an abusive marriage for 16 years. He was a narcissist and was abusive in every way except physical and sexual. I considered un-aliving myself a couple of times but couldn't imagine leaving my kids with him. The idea of not surviving it though, and being how Von is, never crossed my mind. That is terrifying. My prayers are with everyone and I hope justice is served. I truly hope CPS **is** involved at this point.
Thank you for untangling and distilling this difficult story via incredible research, and thank you for braving such waters so we don't have to!
I have cerebral palsy, which is a brain injury, not a disease. That’s why it manifests itself in so many different ways, depending on the cause, severity, etc. If our brains could heal, regenerate, whatever - I wouldn’t use a wheelchair. 1 in 3 with CP are unable to walk, 1 in 4 are unable to talk, 1 in 10 have severe vision impairment, 1 in 4 have some level of hearing loss, 3 in 4 experience pain, 1 in 4 have epilepsy, & 1 in 2 have intellectual impairment. And none of those symptoms are temporary or heal themselves.
My heart goes out to Von, his family and their children. Well done Chelsea. You handled an incredibly sensitive, complex and heartbreaking set of events with empathy, dignity and class.✨
100%
I work at a rehab facility and we have a LOT of clients that come in to detox off kratom. the withdrawals from kratom are VERY similar to opioid withdrawal. she's suggesting that you give this to children? are you kidding me???
Crazy isnt it?!
Her child that was speaking about drinking the tea and what not is so well-spoken and intelligent, when the child said, "It's okay, I'm not embarrassed," I had to choke back tears.
He def was trying to say Kr-tom, too.
So sad! Children who act and sound responsible and grown up is a huge red flag.
@@angelikalaser7778 I am so worried for the kids
I am a former ER/cath lab nurse, and I am CRINGGGGINGGGGG at her medical claims...
What she is spewing is down right DANGEROUS.
It makes me cry too. He is only 29 years old. It’s the putting him on display and he has zero privacy even in his most vulnerable position. I’m a mom I have a 25 year old son and this really is heartbreaking. So many prayers for Von and his family.
Geez I'm 29, that hits home. This poor man deserved better.
I just got home from the hospital after a failed attempt. Thank you for your compassion and attempt to explain the realities of what leads people to act as he did.
Wishing you a lot of love and full recovery.
Big hugs through the computer ❤️
Much love and well wishes to you. If no one has told you this today, you are so very loved and special to all of us on this Earth. It would not be the same without you ❤️ Praying for your mental and physical healing!
“You have to go plant based if you want to save your life”
👀👄👀 *silently eats eggs and corned beef hash*
I work in a daycare, I take care of 1 yr olds. I am not a licensed healthcare professional. One of my sweet children has had seizures. We have medicine ready to go if and when they happen. We’ve have been coached by a doctor on how we should administer everything properly with lots of paperwork to go with it. She said straight Cayenne pepper under the tongue can stop them???? I don’t even have words for how insane spreading that misinformation is. Absolute insanity
43:08 BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO TEACH THEM. Adults learn to regulate their emotions because they are taught. You can’t just give children a sedative every time they are emotional and expect them to grow up and know how to regulate their emotions. Her kids will be turning to alcohol and drugs in no time. She’s already teaching them to use substances to calm down etc. just because it’s a “natural” substance doesn’t mean it’s not substance abuse.
Amen!!!
Amen^2!
💯
“He became different when he started therapy”:
Therapy gave Von the courage to stand up to Dre, something she did NOT appreciate
My thoughts exactly
You, along with other anti-MLM creators, really helped me see the light and get out of that culture. However, this is definitely your best video yet. The time, effort, and research you put into this is evident and so respectful to the family of Von. Thank you for speaking out against other creators who claim to be “reporters”, when in reality they’re all drama. Well done, girl!
Another note: she's teaching her kids when they feel overwhelmed to use a substance. If they feel upset, or need to go to sleep, or just overly excited, take a substance. I hate her. Sorry 😆
It seems like she's giving them the "teas" to put them to sleep and out of her way! Her videos got too much going on in her house with mainly her playing out her script on the live feed like it won't be her problem later because she didn't see anything wrong with it! He can love her but that was a bad love to have, really.
@@TheRuby13red I wonder what that mandatory child inspection by the dr yielded. 🤔
Ugh as a mom , it breaks my heart to hear her say one thing about giving her children grace yet the next sentence is her drugging her children to not deal w them . I deal w tantrums daily and have never thought about giving my baby drugs to calm her down 🙃
Chelsie, this video shows how kind, respectful, empathetic, and understanding you are as a human being! You could have done so much with the information you have access to but you chose not to out of respect for the family involved. That takes a lot of heart! Thank you for being you and for not letting your success get the best of who you are (the way other creators choose to do). You're amazing and I love seeing your growth both as a person and as a content creator! Keep going!
You put this perfectly
You really outdid yourself with this one. The first comprehensive, masterful, and respectful coverage of the information that I've seen. Thank you.
My hubby found his best friend of 30 years in his basement after he did the same thing as Von.... It's been 4 years since that fateful day, my hubby will never get over that ..... I can still hear my hubby's voice when he called me.... Your right, everyone handles these things differently.... Now this lady, idk, definitely something wrong, her actions over the last 2 years seem to get more and more unhinged.... My heart breaks for those kids.... What she's giving them CANNOT be safe or good for them!!!! And no one knows what else goes on behind the scene.... This is just mind numbing....I fell down the rabbit hole.... Very very well done Chelsea....as always!!!❤️
My husbands best friend did the same but in another way. It was so upset ig
I have epilepsy. No cayenne pepper is going to stop my seizures. I believe in a mix of my western medicine and acupuncture but I wouldn’t stop taking my anti seizure medication. That would be so dangerous.
I work on the Epilepsy team at one of the world’s foremost research hospitals and I was HORRIFIED-H O R R I F I E D-when she said that. When Chelsea said Dre took Von off his medication, I almost passed out… There was clearly no down-titrating or neurologist supervision to get him off his meds. She didn’t take him to the hospital when he was in status epilepticus! SHE IS TRYING TO KILL HIM. SHE *IS* KILLING HIM. Dear god
You did such an amazing job on this video Chelsea. It was so compassionate and informative while not exploiting the situation like Without a Crystal Ball has been. I appreciate the work you put into this and how you so eloquently handled this. Bravo Chelsea. Bravo.
"She's very susceptible to accepting whatever information is given to her" Unless of course it's coming from someone who went to school for 15 years to become an expert on that topic.
yep!!
Thank you for calling out other UA-camrs. This whole thing is so gross and doesn't need any of us to make it worse.
This is well documented and respectful.
It’s an absolute wild ride. From being a makeup content creator (she’s skillful) to giving dubious health advice while putting her family in a weird place.
I hope things will get better for this family because it’s heartbreaking.
I’m only 15 minutes in and love how much info is in this video. Thank you for working so hard on this and putting out fact based information. Your hard work is truly appreciated!
I like that the kid said… “I’m not embarrassed…. We can talk about it.” Child wiser than the parent 🤦🏾♀️
i bet she wanted him to shut up about the tea bc she knew what she was doing wasn’t right. but you’re right, he definitely doesn’t get it from her
If you are a male victim of DV or SA, or you love one, I believe you.
Out of all the videos I’ve seen on her.. this has to be the best video done! Great job babe! This situation is so sad.. I’m praying for von and his family! Sending von, his family and everyone here tons of love, light and positive healing energy! 💗🙏
“Before you do…throw your phone in the garbage and go to therapy” 😂 😂 My favorite disclaimer ever.
So, I just wanted to say something. And maybe this isn't the best place to put this, because I have no idea of you'll ever see it, but I feel compelled, so here we go. I've been watching you for a while now... maybe 4-5 months. I've seen some of your background videos and mostly watch for your anti-mlm content. I've noticed something about you that's different from other creators. You get a lot of push back and have even addressed the way you presented things in the past and how you're trying to do better now. But throughout it all, I have been able to vibe with you on a different level than other commentator channels. I couldn't quite put my finger on it until now, but- when you teared up in this video... that look on your face. You care. Like, you genuinely CARE because you've lived through that kind of pain. And so, I think that the thing that I've connected with in you is your realness. Maybe you don't always present yourself in a way that everyone likes, but what you present is a real, flawed, caring human being. And I say that as a true and genuine skeptic- someone that researches things to death and will not take most things at face value. You, dear girl, are real.... and I appreciate your content very much. Anyway- not sure what I hoped to accomplish with this comment, other than letting you know that I hear you. 💙 Thank you for being you.
I agree as you watch Dre. You can definitely see the change in her appearance, speech, demeanor.
With out a crystal ball has been in numerous controversies & been sued by large public figures before. She has no boundaries and no integrity as a content creator… I am not surprised that she’s overstepped like this
My brother was a peace corps volunteer and his job was introducing moringa to the northern region of Cameroon. It is a really unique crop that's often given the label "super food" because it contains a high number of daily nutrients and vitamins which in certain areas of the world are hard to come by. If you are looking to increase your daily vitamins, moringa is great but that's pretty much all it does. Also it tastes terrible.
Kratom can be addictive. It does have withdrawals including irritability, restless legs, sweating, cold chills, depression, anxiety, mood swings etc. A lot of people claim it’s was harder for them to get off of Kratom than other hard drugs. It all depends on the person. I started taking Kratom for my fatigue and anxiety not knowing it could be addictive and now I’m struggling to get off of it because of the withdrawal symptoms. My hair is falling out, I can’t gain weight, it’s made my anxiety SO much worse. I wish I had educated myself more before starting because I had no idea. I was told it was like caffeine addiction and it’s definitely not. I don’t advise anyone take Kratom.
Thank you!!! The amount of people that keep saying it is some miracle drug that's perfectly safe, is astounding. I'm in a K group for mothers and every other post is a Mom worrying if it is gonna cause withdrawal in their baby OR if CPS will be called because it is in their system. People really need to educate themselves.
At the VA, they told her they couldn't stop anyone from visiting so she moved him. Like, what are you running from homegirl?!
So weird how she was tears thinkin about Vons life without her. Who says that. That’s such a weird thing to,say and think
I thought the same thing
Considering I’m 100% sure he’d be alive, well, and walking around today without her interference and negligence, her statement is even MORE terrifying.
It's scary that many MLM consultants through Paparazzi suffered through poor health before the company was exposed for using dangerous elements like lead and arsenic. They have entire rooms dedicated to their 'business' and are constantly exposed to these dangerous elements on a daily basis. The fact that this woman and her family has suffered through poor health that was possibly brought on by this company is sad.
Paparazzi has a lot to answer for, in my opinion.
Also isn’t it bizarre that everyone in the house- including the dog and chicken (!!!!) have had seizures…. But she has never had one???? I have questions….
Her kid quite literally said its kratom and she said "oh passion flower"
Okay I got this Dre confused with Draymus (?) these girls are starting to blend together, I cannot keep up 😂.
Me too 😅😅
I totally did too until the "who is Dre" short!
Also thank you for how respectfully (and accurately) you spoke about addiction and substance use disorder… and you are absolutely correct that just because something is natural that it’s safe- opiates come from the poppy seed or plant. Many opioid addicts will use kratom to withdraw but end up staying on it because it is highly addictive- I know there are a lot of people who use it with no issues, but it’s just so EXTREMELY concerning and actually horrifying she gives this to her children including a 7 year old. This is in the open for the public to see- WHY haven’t CPS been knocking on her door? This is so so so sad. I feel like everyone in that house, including Von, including the animals are being held hostage. She feeds the dog the same alkaline diet with a little dog food mixed in!! The poor dog is having seizures and losing its hair. The 7 year old asked for a picture of meat!! I’m vegan and have been one 30+ years, the only one in my family. If I had children I would never push my diet beliefs onto them!! Their growth is going to be severely stunted- mentally and physically. I just don’t understand how this can go on for so long with so many people watching (all of her MLN team) and no one reporting. I know everyone says she’s changed drastically and she’s like a different person now but when people saw it going on they just looked the other way? I’m sorry but I’m a DV survivor and so many people knew and saw and I was pleading inside for someone to “but in” to my business because I desperately needed help but I was too scared to do it on my own or he threatened to kill my family. After what he did to me I believed him! Sometimes we should be nosy…. I’m just very sad for this whole situation and it’s amazing how one woman has control of so many people and all the damage she’s caused- including all of Von’s family members. It’s just astonishing to me…
The amount of hate and ignorance in the comments section is a little alarming.. Chelsea I think you were very respectful in covering this situation. It's a tough topic to cover, but it deserves recognition. I would have to agree that a lot of Dre's behavior is.. questionable at best 👀
Also I'm sad you blocked that unhinged woman spamming your comments. I was in the middle of responding to her nonsense LOL
Agreed, Folks are in this comment section wilding out.
Gosh not Without A Crystal Ball. Katie Joy needs to stop
I enjoyed KJ back before she became the creator she is today. She is too much, and she is hella mean to people in her comments.
Chelsea, I was so looking forward to this video and you have done an amazing job!! You mentioned an alkaline diet is followed by their family! When the body is too alkaline (alkalosis) it can and will make a person very sick and can even kill someone! I'm a dialysis RN and one of the most important parts of my job is maintaining and restoring the patient's PH balance, which is one of the many lost functions of the failed kidneys. Why would we have this very important function of our kidney's, to maintain PH balance, if our bodies function better in an alkaline environment? I bring this topic up b/c consistently having too high of an alkaline level in the body can cause confusion, seizures, numbness/tingling, tremors, light headedness, nausea/vomiting, etc! I have seen patient's have seizures who were diagnosed with metabolic alkalosis, so not only the exposure to arsenic/lead but also throwing off the body's PH balance with a high alkaline diet, combined with a bunch of supplements, which you truly have no idea how the body is processing everything, could possibly be causing their health issues and seizures as well! Very scary and everyone please take any health claim with lots of research and a grain of salt!! Alternative health/medicine is such a big money making industry now, it has become just as bad as the abuse of main stream medicine!
I recently read an article in the American Medical Journal about a healthy 49 year old woman, with no medical history, on no medications, and had no history of drug abuse, who was admitted to the hospital with metabolic alkalosis and come to find out, she followed an alkaline diet and was also an active endurance runner! It was determined that the combination of electrolyte loss from sweating during exercise, in combination with excess bicarbonate in her body because she followed an alkaline diet, lead to her developing metabolic alkalosis! Her symptoms were convulsions, syncope, and dysrhythmias that were resolved with IV infusions to help rebalance her electrolyte levels and eating a regular diet!
Also, thanks for calling out these "true crime" channels that just report on the same famous cases over and over, promoting lies and false conspiracies, all in the name of views, clicks, and money! What they do is harassment and abusive towards the victims families! Another famous case that has been exploited to no end is the Shannan Watts case! Shannan's family has begged and pleaded for the crazy conspiracies and harassment to end, and they have now sought legal action, which no victim's family should ever have to do!! I am not someone who supports cancel culture but I do support taking away a creator's platform who states defamatory lies as facts, abusing freedom of speech, and causing more pain to victims families for financial gain!! It's not "helping to solve these case," like many of these channels initially try to claim, however it is shameful, disgusting, and harmful to the victim's families!
Sorry my comment is a book, LOL! i just really appreciate the content of this video and who you are as a creator!! The promotion of these MLM supplements as cure all treatments, is not only scamming people out of their money and time, but quite possibly robbing people of their quality of life and health! Thanks for staying spicy and assertive!!😀
This is so fascinating! Also, that’s so cool you’re a hemodialysis RN! I’m in end stage renal failure and will be starting hemodialysis soon. I’m terrified 😭 I’m only 35 and am not eligible for a transplant. Any words of advice? Thanks in advance! Nurses are so under appreciated. ♥️♥️♥️
@@-kortnie Thank you for your sweet comment!🥰 I am so sorry you are going through this and being scared, confused, and having many questions is completely normal! It is allot to adjust to all at once! Words of advice, lean into all of the support around you, not only the healthcare team, but other patients, support groups, family and friends! Being able to bond with someone who is also doing dialysis, who knows what you are going through, can answer questions, provide support, and who can help to ease your fears can be such a wonderful gift when you are going through something so life changing! This may go without saying, but be as compliant with your dialysis as you can possibly be! 100% is not always possible, we are only human, however your quality of life, and how you feel will be so much better if you are active in your care and embrace these new changes in your life. I have cared for many patients, young and old, and when they adjust to these changes and actively take part in their care, not only do they feel so much better, but they more easily adjust to their dialysis, and are able to continue living vibrant and active lives!
Of course, this is not how anyone would imagine having to change their lives, but in time and surrounding yourself with loving, caring, and supportive people, you will adjust to the new changes in your life! Sometimes, people will not always understand what you are going through but don't be afraid to speak up for what you need and educate others, so they begin to understand, are more sensitive to your needs, and are able to support you with the new changes in your life! I also believe, sometimes people who love us don't always know what to say or how to help us, and this is why speaking up, and also asking for help when it is needed is so important! I absolutely believe that you will conquer these new changes in your life!! I have seen it with my own eyes! You are in my heart, thoughts, and prayers. Remember that you are not alone and continue reaching out for advice, love, and support!
I think you reported this very well, it's so refreshing to see unbiased information being presented. You can really see the amount of hard work and research you put into your content.
I started your video freshly high. 30 minutes later, I'm realizing this is not the video to be watching freshly high. I'll be back. Commenting for the anecdote and the algorithm ✌️
Same. Bad idea 😫
I'd like to share my Kratom experience if anyone is interested:
I too fell into the trap of thinking that is something is all natural then it can't be bad for you and without doing much research I dove in. I have an autoimmune disorder called Sjogren's Syndrome and arthritis. I'm now 46 but started taking Kratom when I was 43 after I stopped breastfeeding my miracle baby (that's another story)
At first I couldn't find much info on how to take it or how much. The little bit of research I did helped me settle on starting with a level teaspoon 2 times a day, once in the am and once before my evening run. At first it was amazing. My pain was non existent and the fatigue I had suffered for ten years from my disease was all but gone. I started walking and counting calories and then moved into running. I had never felt to clear and motivated. I ended up losing 80lbs in 8 months, getting in the best shape of my life and running my very first half marathon. Something I would have never dreamed of given my conditions.
What happened after that is kind of fuzzy. I know I started increasing my dose at some point but it had to have been gradually because I remember I started going on less and less runs and my eating slowly slid back into my old habits. Somewhere during the pandemic I just stopped altogether. I chalked that up to my daughter starting to toddle (which required a lot more cleaning, energy, etc..), the stress and depression that came from lockdown and the fact that my eating had reverted back to comfort eating completely.
I tried several times to get back to my routine but I was so sluggish and weak and my aches and pains started creeping back in. Then the stomach issues started. Constipation like you would not believe, to the point that I was using suppositories, laxatives and on a few occasions (trigger warning: this is disgusting--->) I had to put on a rubber glove and literally dig the shit out of my asshole. Never in my life had I experienced constipation like this, it was /still is actually traumatic, I get anxious when I have to poop. Yet, I still didn't attribute it to Kratom.
Around my birthday last year my husband tried to plan a fun day/evening for me and it was all going to be a surprise. My inner self had changed SO much that the thought of not knowing the plans sent me into a rage. I absolutely lost my shit and ruined my own birthday. I had NEVER been so horrible to my husband but the anxiety and stress in my body now had me in a chokehold. My husband is actually a psychologist and only sort of knew I was dabbling in Kratom. He's a pot smoker so he wasn't too concerned for the same reasons I wasn't but after this explosion when I went to him on my knees sobbing to apologize, he told me he was really worried about me and had been for a while but that I had been so on edge that he was afraid to even approach me. I was taking 4-5 heaping tablespoons of Kratom a day by this point.
I have spent thousands of dollars on Kratom. My husband has no idea because I pay with crypto and he's not on my crypto account. I had found myself at the bottom of a hole that I didn't even know existed. I'm not a drug user or an addict. I never have been. So, I tried to quit Kratom.
I'm now down to 3 level tablespoons a day-which is still a lot and I feel like shit but I'm moving in the right direction. I'm trying to slowly taper my dose because I can't tell you how sick I become without it in my system. I no longer experience any of the positive effects. I have to take it to not get ill at this point. If it wears off in the night when I'm sleeping, I wake up sweating and crawling out of my skin. I get flu symptoms, muscle spasms, blurry vision, headaches and the horrific constipation that I'm now afraid may have damaged my colon permanently. I'm slowly getting there. I have a 3 year old to take care of so I have to be functional but I cannot WAIT until I am out from under Kratom. It quietly turned into a nightmare for me.
Kratom can do wonders but it can also LEVEL you. I wouldn't tell anyone to stay away from it because so many people say it saved their lives BUT if you do decide to try it...PLEASE do your research, join the reddit boards, talk to people, read about their experiences, LEARN TO DOSE and don't get your information solely from the manufacturer which is what I did. They don't warn you of the pitfalls.
I just wanted to share because I'm sure a lot of people are curious about Kratom. This was just my experience. One thing I've learned is that it affects people differently so you will find all kinds of seemingly conflicting information out there. Just be careful. Please
Oh wow I didn't know it could get like that!! I'm so sorry that happened and I wish you good luck with getting off of it!!! 💖
I hope you can get out of it sweethart. I would like to know about your miracle baby :) how did it happen?
My mothet was disfellowshipped after having an affair on her physically and mentally abusive husband (that she went to the elders about). So yah. That’s bs and true.
She had the right to leave. They would even help to hide her. Are you 100% sure she got all the help that was offered to her?
Chelsea, I am just now watching this 4 mos after you posted it. I want you to know you did a fabulous job in relating this story. Your sensitivity, kindness and insight were shining through. Such an awful situation. You did great.
Thank you for being professional and using protective language. This was an incredibly good deep dive. Unfortunately certain OTHER youtubers. Play with with the lives of these families. For clicks and views. And to make as much money as possible. Also they insert themselves into the situation. And have LITERALLY asked people if they have information or evidence on this case. To send it to THEM!!!! And they will send it on. Which is absolutely disgusting. Also on their live stream. They kept saying that Von didn't try to... himself. Because that's not how it works!!!! Wretched and dangerous behaviour. So thank you for showing others how to do it right.
She’s so abusive and controlling that she won’t even let him die on his own terms. It’s so horrible and disgusting.
Hey! RN here. With all the speculation and due to it being a (sketchy) suicide attempt, I can almost promise a lot of toxicology has been done. It doesn’t seem like poisoning would be something she would get away with at this point. It would be easier for her to get him gone. The longer he’s alive the more tests they’re able to do. Although at this point I don’t think a lot would come of it. But we do tox screens on so many people I can’t imagine they haven’t run the gamut on him.
@@Nukkie19 she is JW, he is not. I don't believe that the person with POA gets to make decisions on behalf of the patient based on a religious belief that the patient doesn't share.
Thats true, if they come in altered or unconscious…. Lots of tests
Why don’t people talk about putting cayenne pepper under your younger for seizures? WHY? WHY? WHY? Because it’s bullshit maybe? You’d think the pharmaceutical industry would be selling cheap cayenne pepper? Her making the claims she does is criminal. She doesn’t look well.
I feel so bad for her husband. He shouldn’t be kept alive because she can’t let go. I’m a nurse and I know that sound harsh but it’s such torture for the person that’s sick. I hope his family takes this to court and gets to take care of his medical management. She’s so delusional. Not just about her husband but about everything she claims.
You're right it's not fair on the person who's sick...my auntie was on a ventilator due to covid 19 and we obvs wanted to keep her on the machine and Keep trying but docs said her lungs are dead and hard/stiff it'll be inhumane to keep her on it so we had to do the hardest thing ever and let her pass. It's incredibly hard and not a decision anyone takes lightly. When the medical profession mention this you know there's absolutely no chance not even 000.1%! She should let him go and be at peace as he's such suffering and it's inhumane x
I really believe part of her angle is, if he dies or doesn't recover 100%, it exposes her fraud of " kratom heals everything and dr sebi is a god".
As someone who psych trained (but would never say for sure online right!?) This looks like paranoia. I hope they are okay.
My mom died in my arms from overdose, I performed cpr for what seemed like forever and emts arrived, they worked on her for a long time too. I was shocked that they got her heart pumping again but knew it was too late. Low and behold, days later she was declared brain dead and I remember having to explain to my family the difference between brain death and vegetative states. If I did not make the decision to take her off life support, the doctors could have petitioned to. Lots of false reporting out there contributing to this confusion. NOBODY can come back from total brain death.
Like damn that was triggering. I know how hard it is to see someone you love hooked up to a ventilator and it gives the illusion of life. The beating heart, the rise and fall of their chest… but the things that start to happen to the body when it’s ran by machines and there’s no brain activity is further traumatizing. I made the most of our last 24 hours together after her diagnosis and then I did the right thing.
This is heartbreaking, I'm sorry you went through this! I can relate to seeing a loved one on a ventilator and how their body starts to break down. I recently lost my grandmother who sadly went down hill after having heart surgery and was eventually put on a ventilator and declared brain dead! It is not how I would ever want someone to be mechanically kept alive and our family made the right choice as well!
@@lynnrn8252 Thank you and I’m very sorry for your loss. The break down varies from person to person depending on many factors so I pray you were able to have your goodbye without further scarring. On one hand I kinda see where Dre is coming from because those feelings are inevitable when faced with loss but man, we have to know when to let go and the story as a whole is horrifying. I pray for her kiddos.
@Voyeur I’m sorry that happened. You’re so strong for dealing with that for your family. 🙏
When I was watching certain other creators, they were talking about Von in past tense. It really pissed me off and that's when I stopped watching the circus. I mean obviously he is not well, but let the man actually die before we use past tense. It's disrespectful.
Chelsea, you have done an amazing job with this video! Very respectful of the victims.
Also, the word "disagreement" instead of "argument" is a distancing word. It could be used to minimise the severity of what happened between them.
This is the content we needed about this story. Thank you.
1) the ending to this video was everything.
2) you spent less than 10 minutes sharing YOUR theories, because in the nicest way possible, none of our theories matter.
3) You give an excellent factual rundown of the situation.
4) Again, the way you ended this video is so so so important.
I’ve always been a huge fan but you knocked this one out of the park. Your professionalism really shows. Thank you for handling this with the upmost respect.
A much needed examination of the entire situation. Too many creators are looking at this as a true crime in the making rather than a tragedy happening in real time. Yes, I have my own theories on what has happened, but it does no good to put them on five hour live streams.
Never heard of any of these people and I feel like I'm in a fever dream. Very thankful my life is not this complicated
This case is scarier than Michael Myers or Jason could ever be….the real-life horror of what people are capable of and the irony of not being able to really escape your abuser
CC, thank you for covering this, you are a class act. Thank your hubby too for helping to bring awareness to this very sad situation.
Former mandatory reporter in Tucson AZ, and from experience calling child welfare multiple times, I can say that hearsay of mistreatment or neglect from someone who doesn't have firsthand contact with said children will be documented but won't likely be acted upon. In other words, making a report doesn't equal action taken on the authority's part. If a sheriff is called, they may do a well check but even that doesn't seem likely if the caller has no relationship or has ever interacted with the child.
Adding all the warning and saying allegedly etc etc did not AT ALL take away from your video; honestly I find this to be your best
There seems to be an overlap between veganism and avoiding doctors hospitals and medicine. However I also notice that a lot of those same people tend to take an abundance of supplements and herbs.
Well done. I have no idea who this woman is and only ever heard of her from your videos. I watched this bc of your intelligence and superb research and documentary skills. Very well done.
My heart go out to the guy and his family that desperately want to say their goodbyes respectfully.
Chelsea your presentation of the facts are so professional in this case. Always are but this is excellent work. I’ve already commented it but this is just the saddest situation.
I wasn’t prepared for any of what I just watched and I watched it all. You came fair and not accusatory. This is sad and I think we witnessed (live time) a downward spiral with detrimental consequences.
The father and stepmom of von saw him. Then they had to leave, then dre moved von. Vons mother did and has an attorney currently. She has worked out a deal to see von as of 7-22-2022 she has seen her son! Vons stepmom and father are getting an attorney to try to work out a deal to see him also now. Cps was involved and the girls father has filed with the courts an emergency custody order it was filed 7-19-2022.
"every single part of your body can heal but your brain." haven't she ever heard of heart attacks? when people feel chest pain it is literally because a part of your heart muscle is dying and due to ischemia. or how about, idk, kidney failure? liver failure? bowel ischemia? avascular necrosis of bones? All of which does not regenerate and heal.
Im glad you mentioned without a crystal ball. I couldn’t remember her name (I thought it was Katie something) but she really rubbed me the wrong way with the Gabbie Petito case. First thing she did was dox an innocent woman by going on a live and sharing her license plate number with her audience. Read all her info to everyone on the live and this poor woman who had no idea what was going on was getting every kind of harassment you can imagine.
THEN she lied and said one of her “haters” called the police on her and said she was hiding Brian in her home. She said the police and the FBI showed up in full swat gear to search her home. The police had to make a public statement on Facebook (I believe) stating this NEVER happened. Personally I think she should have been charged for this. It was when Brian was still missing and right before Gabby was found…the entire thing was for attention. It’s one of the most disgusting things I’ve ever seen on UA-cam. And it’s a total misuse of her platform. This isn’t the first time she’s been called out for her comments and accusations she’s made in her videos either…If I’m remembering correctly she was sued by Tati (that makeup girl I don’t know her last name). And this might not be true but I did hear some reality tv star was filing a class action lawsuit against her for her blatantly false comments..
Obviously she’s doing it for the views but it’s absolutely irresponsible as she’s purposely misleading her audience. I’ve never really watched her videos and the only reason I know who she is is because I was following the Gabby Petito case and a Florida news anchor called her out! After he said something about it a ton of youtubers made videos about her obnoxious lie and how she doxxed that woman..
Just like Drey, I don’t think their intention is to maliciously hurt someone, I think to them it’s collateral damage to their attention addiction. They want people to notice them and feel sorry for them, they want to be the first person that knows this “amazing new thing that you need to know”, and they want the highest view count possible so they can make money off of us. They’re banking on our ignorance to these topics so we blindly trust them because “they said so”. It’s really sad but both these women need some serious mental health help. I’m not going start throwing out diagnoses since that would be extremely inappropriate but I definitely think they have some behavioral issues that boil down to the need for attention…these are both very smart beautiful women and I refuse to believe they don’t know what they’re doing. They just don’t want to accept accountability…
Thanks for covering this CC. I really appreciate how you were able to hold Drey accountable as well as other you tubers who are abusing this situation. Your video is honestly the most rational because you didn’t “pick a side”…you criticized both parties since BOTH are in the wrong.
I've never liked that UA-camr if we're talking about the same one. Yep, Crystal Ball. You said it as I was typing this. She is not credible at all.
KJ is one of the worst types of human beings. Thankfully more people are realizing this as she continues to cause problems.
I have never liked her either
What you said about how he is now stuck with his abuser is exactly what I thought when she was showing his "tear" rolling down his face. That makes me so sad to think he's aware of things and he's trapped with her. But he's probably not aware. I hope he's not.
That's exactly what I thought.
I know one person who was in a coma and she described having what she believed to be some minor awareness of those around her speaking but that it was incorporated into something of a dream she was in when she was closer to consciousness.
However, if he is brain dead he would not dream.
I don't know what I would hope for him. 😓
I'm only about 4 months late to this video, but I'm here because of Without a Crystal Ball. I'm aware of her legal issues and her lack of good and just plain decent ethics when it comes to "reporting". I didn't know who Dre and Von McCray were until I started watching videos from other creators who were trying to expose KJ for her lies and, well, retaliation. I listened to parts of videos from a few creators who weren't to the point or as professional as I needed to listen to. I mean, give me verifiable facts or don't bother. So then I found this video which I could listen too without cringing in disgust.
It was a very well organized video with facts. You clearly separated facts and opinions. You were so respectful of this tragedy and pretty much the destruction of a family. And you had empathy. That is the most important part of reporting any story, and I can't tell you enough how relieving it was to listen to your video.
I had thought this was some random family KJ had sunk her teeth into and wouldn't let go of. I had even heard that she reached out to the mother of Von, I think Leticia, and somehow a cash app or gofundme page was set up without their permission, only they didn't get the proceeds. The creator did. Of course I can only speculate, because it isn't verified well at all. Since this wasn't the first accusation of this kind about KJ, I'd been keeping my eyes open, especially after your recent video done on KJ.
The only reality show I really watch is "Sister Wives". I listened to KJ's recaps, and finally got tired of her throwing around terms that implied a mental condition the patriarch, Kody Brown, might have. She even got an email from a neighbor of his, and somehow got him to snoop around and take pictures of his property and then send them to her. I thought that was invasive and not a good idea. I commented on it, getting a bit of a snarky answer back which was funny actually. But she totally missed the point. She doesn't know how to be a good journalist. She doesn't know the 5 W's and the H. She doesn't even really know what a fact is that can be evidence, and how it differs from opinions or in her case lies. She hasn't got a bit of empathy and can't put herself in someone else's shoes. She is absolutely sure that she is never wrong and that she is bringing forth justice. Therefore, it only matters that she's ruined a family or another creator's career if she is being sued.
The point is I listened to you and heard this family's story. I began to understand the downfall of Dre McCray, and I felt the pain of Von. I felt the hurt and frustration of his parents. I got the real story. So I thank you for that. It is sad and a tragedy. You gave them the dignity they deserved.
Wow. Thank you so much I really appreciate your comment and your insight. 🥰🥰🥰
I know this one is gonna be heavy, so I'm gonna come back to it when and if I'm in an ok headspace to watch it, but am liking and commenting for the algorithm and in support of Chelsea. What a truly heartbreaking situation. 💔
Today is the first time I've watched your videos and I have to say, thank you, thank you for sticking with facts and calling out the tubers fighting over everything but doing it in a proper manner, and it annoyed me when one of those 2 started given attitude to some viewers, which i thought waa out of order, creators get my respect and sub when they do the job properly, like you just did.
I can’t figure out what Chelsea has changed, but she looks the HOTTEST she’s ever looked. Like I noticed it 5-6 videos ago. What is the secret?!
No secret. Just feeling great, working out and eating good. I have been for the last 6 months and the results are finally showing 🤍🤍
I was going to say the same!! Like shining from inside out
That was the best explanation of this story. I haven’t followed it closely because it was overwhelming all the info out there. You’re a sweetheart and here’s a big hug 🤗 for you getting upset at the end.
I'm a kratom advocate and am actually involved in a study of daily consumers by a national institute right now. I take it as an alternative to pain medicine for chronic pain. People like Dre are why there's so much misinformation out there. It does work on the opioid receptors of the brain, which is why it works so well for pain, and also why it can cause liver damage, just like other pain killers. It has less side effects than prescription pain killers, and many choose kratom over prescriptions because it overall works better for them. I watched my father be bedridden with pain, barely able to get up for the bathroom, (meanwhile being on prescribed fentanyl and Norco,) able to get up and live a normal life by switching to kratom. He was up and dressed, cleaned his house, took a shower, made himself food. The benefits for those with chronic pain outweigh the risks, just as the risks of prescription drugs do not outweigh the benefits of being without pain. It should be regulated for these reasons, as it is just as addictive as other pain killers, and is absolutely not for children. I am horrified to hear anyone give it to kids. The American Kratom Association has had studies done and hired a very capable legal team to fight the misinformation and outright lies put out by lawmakers and the media, and they've proven their case so well that many states fighting to make it an illegal substance have lost that fight. The fear mongering reminds me of the cannabis panic decades ago, when it was advertised on TV as something as dangerous as heroin, causing death and all sorts of crazy things that we now know are not true. As someone who actually lobbies for correct information of kratom to be spread, including everything I just said about its addictive qualities, we don't claim her.
Thank you Kitty Lynne
I agree 100%. Used correctly this is life-altering for many people with chronic pain.
Agreed. Thank you for speaking up.
She didn’t give it to her kids!
You did such a great job with this. You were respectful while still presenting the evidence and adding in your own commentary.
Hopefully his parents can do something legally so they can see him. Doing a live stream in his hospital room and profiting off his situation is just disgusting.