Great Bows in PvP = ??? (Elden Ring Invasions)

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  • Опубліковано 6 вер 2024

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  • @dangitjm
    @dangitjm  2 роки тому +57

    Howdy, y'all! An announcement: There is a PvP charity event for the Elden Ring community, organized by Stochastic. On August 5 through 7, many streamers (saintriot, ghost_hardware_, Pincognito, Wraff, thedashingsaint, me, and others) will be doing Taunter's Tongue runs at meta (Level 125) on either one, two, or all three days. The streamers will on Playstation AND PC. For every streamer, summoned phantom, or shadow host killed, Stochastic will be donating money to the Save the Children charity organization. More details can be found here:
    docs.google.com/document/d/1jp-C_-SZsr1IXxeSlN3b77-Ly59xsaHAjHky0c_q330/edit

    • @zanemob1429
      @zanemob1429 2 роки тому +2

      What are you playing on? I might be able to help with your Golem Arrow troubles. I have 300 or so.
      Edit: I’m on PS4.

    • @RestingLuge
      @RestingLuge 2 роки тому

      hey, I've got a question: you mentioned that everything is going to be on NG+ and above. does that actually matter? like, I can still participate if my character hasnt gone to new game plus right?

    • @dangitjm
      @dangitjm  2 роки тому

      @@RestingLuge The hosts will be on NG+. Any invaders or summons won't have to be on NG+ since their worlds aren't going to be the ones invaded.

    • @dangitjm
      @dangitjm  2 роки тому

      @@zanemob1429 I actually got a full stack of the ammo recently but I greatly appreciate the offer. I am on Playstation btw

    • @Primslim
      @Primslim 2 роки тому

      @@zanemob1429 cap

  • @TheValiantBob
    @TheValiantBob 2 роки тому +113

    Wow. With that first invasion I thought maybe this was a lv 40 build since you were in Stormveil, and especially after the phantom and host hp. Then you open the menu and reveal you're 125 XD

    • @zanemob1429
      @zanemob1429 2 роки тому +2

      Same!

    • @sayxxdx
      @sayxxdx 2 роки тому

      Despite the spams and the pressure those guys applied still lost to a single invader. All it takes is an inch sometimes.

    • @theurge6183
      @theurge6183 Рік тому

      @@sayxxdx I lose to a single invader half the time with two random npc summons. We're all not pro soul slayers.

    • @sayxxdx
      @sayxxdx Рік тому +1

      @@theurge6183 You don't have to be a pro when you outnumber an opponent. This guy, dangitjm, he even points out that you really don't need to be the best of the best to kill hosts or invaders.

    • @XFizzlepop-Berrytwist
      @XFizzlepop-Berrytwist Рік тому +2

      The one guy that died instantly… he didnt even have 16 vigor….

  • @omnibot5848
    @omnibot5848 2 роки тому +71

    Have you tried golem great arrows with rain of arrows? Since it retains the explosion effect the arrow basically turns into a cluster bomb.

  • @amberhernandez
    @amberhernandez 2 роки тому +57

    I recently started using a standard light bow in PVP because you inspired me, Jm. It's my poison ninja's main weapon (and it's suuuuuper fun!), while I keep the Serpentbone katana sheathed until melee is no longer an option. It's only tangentially related to the video, but I thought you'd like to hear you inspired someone!

  • @TheColonelCookiez
    @TheColonelCookiez 2 роки тому +16

    18:15 HOLY SHIT THAT CLEANROT KNIGHT WAS CLUTCH
    if only he threw him off the level though with that toss tho lol

  • @Felicificity
    @Felicificity 2 роки тому +26

    A lovely set of invasions. I’m very partial to the Ornamental too - but greatbows are gonna have to join the list. I had no idea Golem Greatarrows had that special wind AoE, that’s fantastic. Thanks for sharing the good word!

  • @dumbcter
    @dumbcter 2 роки тому +15

    I love greatbows in this game and as i mentioned in stream chat, it's almost painful to see how they get even better with arrows that are both farm-restricted *and* have an abysmal drop rate for a consumable item.
    So i've mostly stuck to ballistae for long-range explosive delivery, while mostly using greatbows to play a game of setting up a shot at lock-on range and watching what people will do.
    For anyone interested: This allows you to counter a lot of ranged attacks (pretty much any attack that locks the character in place as well as some that have limited mobility), and "pseudo-parry" people who try to run circles around you to go for melee, since all of your attacks will also either knock them down or heavy-stagger on headshots.
    The recovery after shots is much faster on GBs than on ballistae so you can set up another shot while they're getting up.
    Trying to attack mid-air will not loose an arrow like with lighter bows, but it *will* set up a shot when you land, which gives you some extra mobility paired with jumping.
    When fighting multiple people, you can also trick them by unlocking after readying an arrow, which leaves your character model pointed in one direction, while you're free to control your camera and quickly lock-on to someone while they think they're sneaking up on you from behind.
    Readied greatbows have a much faster turn-rate than readied ballistae, so locking onto someone who's behind you and about to attack is more viable.
    Also, i'm pretty positive the Spear Talisman works here because arrows and bolts deal pierce damage.

  • @adindrecaj
    @adindrecaj 2 роки тому +6

    9:37 HANG ON WHAT? THEY CAN DO THAT????????!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @the_Red_Star
    @the_Red_Star 2 роки тому +25

    you gotta wonder why fromsoft put so many cool ammo types in the game and then went "yeah, make this one cost 800 runes every shot" or "make these ones drop 5% of the time from some random miniboss, and only 5 at a time"
    also, holy shit 18:14, cleanbro takes no prisoners. and props to bald mamba for holding on so well thereafter in the shittiest situation imaginable

    • @prawn1717
      @prawn1717 2 роки тому +2

      Me: "Oh boy, I can't wait to recreate my Millwood Greatbow build from DS3 in an open world setting!"
      From: "Yeahhhh, about that..."
      Hey, at least the ballistae and shield cannon are a great addition for us ranged users

    • @somechinesedude5466
      @somechinesedude5466 2 роки тому +1

      Souls don't mean much when you don't level up again

    • @the_Red_Star
      @the_Red_Star 2 роки тому +6

      @@somechinesedude5466 the cost is... fine, for pvp after you've beaten the game and can abuse the albinauric farming spot. you don't use that many of them anyway.
      but you just can't use them in a normal playthrough. why blow 16000 souls for twenty attacks, when you could buy a whole level-up instead and fight with literally anything else?

    • @Quarterspine143
      @Quarterspine143 Рік тому

      ​@@the_Red_Star I mean, if you plan your build properly, you can get to the end set of statistics you need and focus on your ammo/consumables a bit faster. It's not a whole-game kind of thing, I'll give you that, but to be fair...when is any build a whole game thing?

  • @Zeonis
    @Zeonis 2 роки тому +12

    9:50
    You can't do that!
    *archer enters*
    M-maybe you can do that

  • @revartillery9612
    @revartillery9612 2 роки тому +10

    I love GBs but hadn't tried out Golem GB with the golem arrows b/c of the farming grind but now I gotta try it. A few cool tricks with GBs that I've found through using them: The Golden Great Arrows can be used to buff yourself or your allies if you shoot close to them. You can shoot the ground at your feet or a quickly approaching enemy to give your self a quick boost before getting into melee combat. Roped Pots are a great help when an enemy decides to get aggressive. roped lightning pots (in water) or roped volcano pots are a great way to stun or scare enemies off you and give you some time to get another shot off. Certain weapons and weapon skills also are a great deterrent for people trying to get up close and personal. Any weapon with the storm stomp ash of war is a great soft swap from the GB, and the Stormhawk Axe is excellent with it's guaranteed 3 hit AoE. And finally, great arrows have a guaranteed hit stun over everything except super armor attacks (iirc). Great for knocking down people that lean on poise too heavily.

    • @dumbcter
      @dumbcter 2 роки тому +3

      Also try Spark Aromatic if you haven't already. Farm for it's crafting is not too bad and it gives you a surprise quick (and strong) attack while two-handing an unreadied greatbow.

  • @muffintopmd
    @muffintopmd 2 роки тому +3

    that second invasion was a saga holy shit

  • @lostalternative1414
    @lostalternative1414 2 роки тому +5

    Great Invasions! Happy I caught the last few on stream, gives me a few ideas for a quality build. I wrote off great-bows early on and will happily admit that I was so dead wrong about them. Sadly, all the best arrows have to be farmed but that never stopped me before, so it won't stop me now. This is such a good showcase on just how good those weapons can be.

  • @whoopsthatsasinisntit
    @whoopsthatsasinisntit 2 роки тому +10

    YES i always loved greatbows in ds3 even duels too bad we lost the RPG bow tho
    nwm actually watched the video now, we do have the storm arrow things

    • @ddm_gamer
      @ddm_gamer 2 роки тому +2

      I mean do we realy need rpg arrows when we got actual cannons now? Ok if i put it that way it does sound kinda dumb because an rpg is a modern machine and a cannon is well a cannon but you get what in saying

  • @stratospheric37
    @stratospheric37 2 роки тому +5

    great invasions, JM! keep up the good stuff

  • @slackersurf
    @slackersurf 2 роки тому +2

    I can’t get my head around making builds at 125 with the higher soft caps. 150 just always makes more sense.

  • @reada4488
    @reada4488 2 роки тому +2

    Your videos are always a joy

  • @Wkayyy
    @Wkayyy 2 роки тому

    that part with the cleanrot knight was ABSURD and AMAZING HOLY SHIT

  • @anordinarypedestrian5445
    @anordinarypedestrian5445 2 роки тому +1

    Ive been using greatbows a ton on a genichiro build, theyre so sick now with their jump attack firing twice as fast

  • @crestfallenhussar895
    @crestfallenhussar895 2 роки тому +1

    Vagabond chest altered and soldier kettle helm is such good fashion. Glad you seem to have come to the same conclusion.

  • @Fedorchik1536
    @Fedorchik1536 2 роки тому

    I'm surprised how good NPCs are in this game.
    That cleanrot knight not only great at fighting the fight, but also navigating the level expertly xD

  • @LgdVegetto
    @LgdVegetto 2 роки тому

    That Cleanrot Knight was the MVP with that clean catch on Burger King!

  • @Mozgodrobil
    @Mozgodrobil 2 роки тому

    That fucking nasty grab at 18:15 had me rolling

  • @tomskeleton
    @tomskeleton 2 роки тому

    After years spent flirting with danger, Jim has finally done it. He's gotten danged.

  • @SneakybeakyScrub
    @SneakybeakyScrub 2 роки тому +3

    jim try nagakiba with barbaric roar, its sick (strength build, and roar talisman increases damage and id also reccomend axe talisman and then the other two should help you tank damage)

    • @SneakybeakyScrub
      @SneakybeakyScrub 2 роки тому +1

      the most satisfying duels with it is where barbaric roar's duration ends and you rollcatch them with a regular thrusing heavy (definitely intentional)

  • @BDeerhead
    @BDeerhead 2 роки тому

    18:08
    That was the most amazing catch I've ever seen!

  • @purevessel
    @purevessel 2 роки тому

    That rotbro had a mission: destroy the host and his phantom.

  • @Tahjman1donjm
    @Tahjman1donjm 2 роки тому +2

    Nice video. You inspired me to make a bow build with your previous video. I sent you a Twitter message of the gameplay hope you saw it

  • @keshaunspencer
    @keshaunspencer 2 роки тому

    18:15 that was insane🤯

  • @The_danyoe
    @The_danyoe Рік тому

    Last one was was so good dude. Great content bro

  • @somechinesedude5466
    @somechinesedude5466 2 роки тому +1

    18:00 JESUS😂

  • @RofoTheGyrm
    @RofoTheGyrm 2 роки тому +2

    Oh man, why oh why can't we buy those Golem Arrows or at least craft them ourselves!?
    That first invasion was an absolute rollercoaster, I love those kinds where you're just barely surviving by the skin of your teeth only to pull it out at the end.
    Also love the fashion, that was my fashion too when I first played the game because I couldn't find any knightly armor sets for such a long time and I randomly got that "British Soldier" lookin-ass hate which works quite well with the Vagabond set.

  • @ChevalierdeJohnstone
    @ChevalierdeJohnstone 2 роки тому

    Nice to see you back

  • @fullfildreamz
    @fullfildreamz 2 роки тому +4

    To be fair though, if you look at the duelling scene at 125 and tourneys... they're ALL melee. Look at the "arena" they use... the bias is so obvious.
    125 is good if you happen to use weapon/stats that scale much better even if lower. Not everyone has that luxury.

  • @War-Wizard
    @War-Wizard 2 роки тому +2

    LOVE the archery in this. Its underrated how fun ranged weps can be in elden ring. Is it Rivers of bubba level damage? no.
    Is it fun as all get out? yeppers, can be...
    Dangitjm, you mention multiple times u need to farm more materials, why not duplicate them?
    Redit has a forum (r/patchesemporium)
    where plenty people are willing to meet all consumable/gear needs. I found it from need, now I help as many random people on their as I can provide for.
    It's surprisingly a really positive community.
    DONT farm for crap, go on the forum, get what you need, then hang around sometimes and provide for others using a good save file setup. Hit me up, I can help figure it out if anyone wants.
    The community that wants this game to succeed is out their.
    Cleanrot is going to haunt that guys nightmares.

  • @aetherspiralknight
    @aetherspiralknight 2 роки тому

    At 5:16 the visual from the Golden Tempering is active on your GB.

  • @stegoeggo
    @stegoeggo 2 роки тому +2

    This build needs conceiving veil or assassin’s gambit and it will be sneakily unstoppable

  • @TheeActualKeyboardWarrior
    @TheeActualKeyboardWarrior 2 роки тому +1

    Every dark souls UA-camr: lemme farm 700k souls just to have a large number showing on the screen while I record

  • @kingborgar35
    @kingborgar35 Рік тому

    That cleanrot knight was brutal

  • @BhopOwnz
    @BhopOwnz 2 роки тому +3

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but shouldn't we all be on the lookout for some of our favorite Elden Ring content creators Aug 5, 6, and 7 taking part in a special Elden Ring charity event where all proceeds raised will be used to help children in need?

  • @CherryScent
    @CherryScent 2 роки тому

    That Cleanrot Knight grab was insane

  • @gerardmonturiol6936
    @gerardmonturiol6936 Рік тому

    i like invading in elden ring more than in ds3 due to the ability to jump and hide, also i think the areas have more spots to hide and do some "parkour".
    i'll never forget the day i was invading in farum azula and there was the host with a yellow spirit, i took the 1vs2 and i was about to lose but instead of accept defeat i just ran away with no estus and less than half of the health bar, also one of theme was throwing me some kukris but i could survive and hide in the farum azula zone with the skeleton beasts, they started to descend to kill me while i was thinking what to do next.
    by the way i was playing a level 120 quality build with no throwing items nor bows so i could only rely on my melee skills.
    and the i saw one of theme receving an arrow shot, that was from a beastman of the zone and that gave me an idea, when the two of them arrived i trick them to follow me to the part with the big skelleton beastmans so while one was fighting one of them i helped the other beastmen to rapidly finish up the yellow spirit, the host defeated the beastman and came to finish me, he was more skilled than his ally so i played with the area and maintained enought distance with him having a wall on the side, the beastman was at the other side and i just waited until the beastman throw his fire breath taking off some of the host's healt and with the little stun moment i closed distance and then i finished him.
    after that victory i learned how to invade, i discovered that unlike duels having combat skills is not the essence, the essence is to read the emviroment and find out the way to turn things to your favor

  • @nikvett
    @nikvett 2 роки тому +1

    That greatbow build looks really good, I wonder what Rain of Arrows could do with Giant's Arrows.

  • @KyXnline
    @KyXnline 11 місяців тому

    10:24 I pushed for a high level meta at release because of the higher soft/hard caps compared to other games. But I gotta be honest, the most fun I have is anywhere from 40-90. At least for invading.
    It's kind of backwards how these games work, but there actually ends up being more build variety at lower levels. And once you get to the meta level, you get gankers instead of actual invasions (which is insanely cringe)

  • @ChaplainIdaeus
    @ChaplainIdaeus 2 роки тому

    Cleanrot Knights and Banished Knights are absolute chads.

  • @Teslacooler
    @Teslacooler 2 роки тому

    Exquisite fashion Jm, I might steal

  • @EldenLordOrvik7790
    @EldenLordOrvik7790 2 роки тому

    Here’s a cool trick to make your parkour easier: if you use any part of the briar set, it makes it harder to break stuff by jumping on top of it

  • @sturmmagnunstein1008
    @sturmmagnunstein1008 2 роки тому

    For any one wondering, this has an explosive hitbox as well as a wind box prior to landing.
    And dont let anyone know but if you pair this with arrow rain bad things will happen to you :^)

  • @Proctor_Conley
    @Proctor_Conley 2 роки тому

    Those were intense!

  • @OwOrse
    @OwOrse 2 роки тому +2

    dangitjm upload, thank you

  • @tapmaster6136
    @tapmaster6136 2 роки тому

    Fucking clean rot, true legend. Poor guy did so well holding the line alone though lol.

  • @Cosmic-Sorceress-17
    @Cosmic-Sorceress-17 2 роки тому

    I'm getting some conflicted ideas on which level is best for the most activity with the least nonsense... Really makes me wish we had a way to level down if we wanted to. I set my limit at 175, since you just get so many runes and I tend to gravitate towards specific weapons and spells that fit the character I am playing. Yet here you say the meta is still 125, like Dark Souls 3. I still get great activity, but I'm also waiting to see how balance gets shifted around, how they preserve that level of building the power to slay a god while still having PvP feel like you're fighting as equals.

  • @thecandyman7807
    @thecandyman7807 Рік тому

    You can instant fire great bows when you run out of stamina while rolling. Good luck with this information.

  • @iamamish
    @iamamish Рік тому +1

    Every time I see somebody at SL 125 or so with really low vigor, it just tells me how EASY this game is when you roll with a gank.

  • @d1943i
    @d1943i 2 роки тому

    you gotta try the rain of arrows on radahns bow with the golem greatarrows. as long as you are locked on to a player when it fires, the arrows will rain down in that area - above you, below you, behind a wall, etc...you can even hit someone inside a room with a low ceiling from outside the room if you can remain locked onto them thru the wall. with shard of alexander and arrows sting talisman, it is a one shot for even 60vig players in most cases, and exalted flesh would probably push it over the top to 100% reliability, assuming it hits of course. however this uses a ton of arrows and probably isnt going to be viable long term unless you are duping or spawning them. its unfortunate, these seem to be included with a handful of other items that can only be farmed as a huge oversight on fromsofts part, just like rot boluses or greases/drawstring greases.

  • @pedroscoponi4905
    @pedroscoponi4905 2 роки тому

    I'd hope to god all this wait for a new patch is because the devs are resting, but my gut instict tells me they've got all hands on deck cranking out the DLC. Which is nice, but a liiiiiiittle bit worrysome!

  • @cridus_
    @cridus_ 2 роки тому

    Btw I'm pretty sure that jumping and loading an arrow during the jump is a bit quicker than doing it from the ground. Could be wrong tho.

  • @holyspear26
    @holyspear26 2 роки тому

    Cannon goes brrr

  • @Primslim
    @Primslim 2 роки тому +1

    The golem great bow does do more damage but the lion greatbow with radahn's Spears is way better for the sole reason that you don't need to farm 8 hours to use it

  • @averyboredmanalsoaweeb320
    @averyboredmanalsoaweeb320 2 роки тому

    Honestly i always love invasions using greatbows, so im gonna share a "tip" that carries from ds3. If you just hold the greatbow and lock on anything the player model just flips 180 to shot at the target. It's always funny to shot at some idiot that thinks he is being sneaky charging at you because you are not looking at him directly.

  • @Kirokill1
    @Kirokill1 2 роки тому

    Burger king got flipped like a burger

  • @tyrinnis9832
    @tyrinnis9832 2 роки тому

    ive never used that bow, but i think i'd like to try it now

  • @orderofsolomomstemple6185
    @orderofsolomomstemple6185 2 роки тому

    I was hoping they'd be like the Millwood bow lol

  • @mywaifustrash9855
    @mywaifustrash9855 Рік тому

    bro got speared/thrown right into you XD

  • @Uchoobdood
    @Uchoobdood 2 роки тому +1

    Ooooooh bay bay! Dasswussup

  • @reedworsham5643
    @reedworsham5643 2 роки тому +1

    Needing to farm stuff like these arrows is so very annoying. Why must consumable items be so horrible to get in reasonable amounts?

  • @Yogurtcups
    @Yogurtcups 2 роки тому

    i wish i could use golem arrows and roped pots all the time but farming sucks so hard

  • @mattiasxxxx7096
    @mattiasxxxx7096 2 роки тому

    where is a good spot to farm Golem's great Arrows ?

  • @WolfHreda
    @WolfHreda 2 роки тому

    I'll give Rivers of Blood this: It has given a lot of players underserved confidence in their ability to play this game against other people.

  • @Kirokill1
    @Kirokill1 2 роки тому

    You should give rain of arrows or Radahn's rain a try

  • @Primslim
    @Primslim 2 роки тому

    This is cool and all but I want to see duels

  • @calvinsui2906
    @calvinsui2906 2 роки тому

    How do you heal or recharge your flasks when you flasks are out?

    • @dangitjm
      @dangitjm  2 роки тому +3

      Defeating summoned phantoms or blue hunters will recharge the flasks. Hunters give 2 charges of both crimson and cerulean, while summoned phantoms give 1 of each.

  • @revenant097
    @revenant097 2 роки тому

    6:21 😳

  • @emirrp
    @emirrp Рік тому

    Wait is that over a million runes.

  • @Primslim
    @Primslim 2 роки тому

    Bring it to a duel

  • @TheDrunkardHu
    @TheDrunkardHu 2 роки тому

    Irvine?

  • @Lu4ronusGaming
    @Lu4ronusGaming 2 роки тому

    Wtf?! Hahahah... Dang it Jim!

  • @ndausky8212
    @ndausky8212 11 місяців тому

    Vigor check 😂

  • @callmesolidcock
    @callmesolidcock 2 роки тому

    😵‍💫

  • @ferbsol2334
    @ferbsol2334 2 роки тому

    They take to much dex and all str base

  • @mida05g
    @mida05g 2 роки тому

    British