I’ve had this machine for years and was never able to steam milk correctly with its panarello. All the videos i watched suggested removing it and i did for a while but now after watching you do this amazing cappuccino, i reattached it and voila amazing creamy cup, zero art of course but the consistency and taste is great. Thank you very much 😊
I wish it was easier to tell from this video what sort of angle and depth the wand / panarello are being held at, relative to the milk and jug. I have a Dedica S Smart with the same wand setup and am struggling to get good microfoam results, so was hoping to be able to learn from this video.
Thanks so much! Looking at buying a Dedica but the steam arm was the one thing putting me off. Didn’t fancy buying a new steam arm - thankfully don’t have to now!
Nicely done!! In fact, changing from cappuccino to hot milk setting sort of replicates what many baristas do with proper steam wands, which is keeping them close to the surface and then submerging them once there's the appropriate amount of foam for the drink they're preparing. I quite like the panarello on the dedica! The biggest flaw there to me it's that it mostly requires several seconds to REALLY come up to decent pressure, and not just 2-3 as stated to purge residual water
Yes it achieves the same thing, and the texture I got from this was really quite a wet velvety microfoam, not what I'd expect a panarello to be capable of at all! Cheers
Same observation. These small consumer appliance espresso machines require really letting the pressure build up and purging the line more than once and more than a few seconds before using the milk steaming wand. The green "ready" light on many home espresso machine is not quite ready yet. When the green ready light is on just purge the water from the milk steaming wand until all the water AND any uneven sputtering is removed (this may take a good 5 to 7 seconds) then let the pressure build up for a couple of minutes again and then purge the line a second time. The difference is totally noticeable where on the second purge the steam is so hot that it is an even hissing sound (no sputtering) and barely any steam vapor is noticeable because really hot pressurized steam vapor is not that visible.
Ah cool, so you can remove the bit from the end and get good results. The older model Dedicas like mine don't have a cappuccino/hot milk switch on the 'panarello' (TIL a new word...) so I seem to just end up with a big blob of thick, lukewarm foam every time. I'll try the steam pipe for my next coffee!
@@Coffee_Kev Oh I haven't done that, I didn't experience any explosions like in your clip. It is an older model so I suppose the construction is slightly different.
@@dananskidolf Yeah they don't all need a tie on the pipe, just if they pop off and cover you with milk, then is the time to go looking for a cable tie ;-).
Hi, thanks for sharing the method. My problem with my dedica is that the pressure is not consistent. On some days, the pressure is too strong that the milk would spilled and splattered everywhere within seconds.. do you have any tips for this? Thank you 🙏
The more water in the tank the stronger the pressure. Just fill the water tank to the max mark everytime you make coffee, you'll get the same pressure.
Mine explodes as well! (the rubbery funnel there) i thought i was the only one who had this issue. So, we can just tie something to it as seen in the video! Will try this on my Dedica.
Hey, great video! I have the same machine, however, every time I try to steam I usually always get the big bubbles in the milk and extremely inconsistent foam. I've tried adjusting the wand, but still the result is the same. Any tips on how to better that?
That means you are adding too much air. Shift the switch to hot milk when you think you have added enough air and tilt the pitcher a bit for milk to start rotating. This should give you creamy texture after some time.
sorry for the delay, but what Aniruddh said, put it on cappuccino setting just until you've aerated it enough, then switch to hot milk mode. Try leaving it on cappuccino setting just until the jug starts to get warm, I'd guess after about 30/40 seconds depending on the jug and how much milk is in it. Cheers
Capuchins is the only thing I cared about and the thickness of the milk is the most important thing for me. In this price range, this is the best machine?
For this price range, given what you've said, I would say the dedica is one of the best choices, you can get decent milk foam either with the panarello wand, or manually by using the steam pipe underneath.
Amazing video! Quick question, my dedica is spitting too much water from the steam pipe, is that normal? is that something that I need to empty before doing this? (seems to never end xD)
My steam pipe has occasionally started to spit in milk and cause a whirlwind of violent bubbles is the steam wand too hot, and if so what's the best way to remedy this. Thanks in advance.
The think is : can i make more soft foam instead of this watery foam? Because i dont want drawings and stuff like that. I want a normal cappuccino. 1/3 coffee 1/3milk 1/3 foam..
Sure. This guide is for making more wet foam for third wave milkies. Ill do another video on this, but for more traditional Cappuccino with spoonable foam just go for a more aggressive aeration, break the surface more so you're creating bigger bubbles. Cheers
It's mentioned in the video that you should start with cappuccino, and once there's enough air in the milk, switch to hotmilk and keep the milk swirling until it reaches the right temperature.
Sorry for the delayed reply, but yeah what srtxko said, start with cappuccino to aerate, then move it to hot milk. Or remove the panarello and cable tie the pipe. Cheers :-), Kev.
better to remove that metall tube and make the right foam in three steps: 1) funnel - load to the depth of 1 cm to create a dunnel but not in the center!. 2) make a foam within 3-5 secs - you need to lower the pitcher down 1 cm - need to hold the bottom of the pitcher until your hand felt stronger warms ( the temperature must be not such a strong but almost it) 3) raise the pitcher by 3 cm for mixing of a foam. You should add some extra milk before, because some of foam will be delaminated and the lowest part will turn into milk. shake the foam all the time while you are pouring into a cup.
Any time I turn on the steamer the water keeps coming out it .. I what is with that? Thought it was just supposed to be steam. I fill my pitcher with milk then it just gets filled with water and doesn’t even froth… any suggestions???
You're turning on the steam, letting it heat, and literally just water is coming out? Could be a few things, this reddit thread might help: www.reddit.com/r/espresso/comments/x6ly90/delonghi_dedica_ec685_steam_wand_leaking_no_steam/
Ensure that you’ve pressed the steam button (far right button) first and let it adjust to steaming temp (flashing to solid light) before turning the steamer on. If you just leave it on the shot setting (left/middle button) and enable the steamer, it will just release hot water.
You have the E685? So you stop the steaming, and then try to steam again almost straight away? I think what's probably happening is you've stopped steaming, so it's going back to shot temp, and then you're setting it back to steam temp again so it needs to up the temp. What you may want to try is just getting a bigger jug and steaming all the milk you want in one go. Cheers.
I have bought this model as a replacement for my EC680 which broke after 6 satisfying years of regular use. I could make perfect thick foam using whole milk with the old model but the foamer on this new model is a disappointment. It's just not thick enough. I like it so that I can spoon it of the top and I can form it into peaks like whipped cream. This new model makes too large bubbles that forms only a thin layer on the top of the coffee. Any tips to get that thick foamy texture I am missing?
I got my first delonghi espresso machine and can't for the life of me figure out how to foam the milk. I am trying to make machiatto but can't get the panarello to work on either cappuccino or hot milk setting? Does anyone know what I am doing wrong ?
nice video! I was wondering what espresso would you recommend this Delonghi or Gran Gaggia Espresso (you have a review about this one as well). I don't know which one to choose these two are in my budget and I am a beginner
Hi. Sorry for the delayed reply. It's a tricky one, the main benefit of going for the Dedica is that it's easy to get a non pressured basket for it, so if you're wanting to go with standard baskets, you may be better with the dedica. The only thing then is that for the price of a new dedica, you can usually get hold of a used pre 2009 gaggia classic, which are a great first home barista machine in my humble opinion. That's how I started, see coffeeblog.co.uk/gcoldmodel
Have u got a thermometer? Can u check what temp its reaching? How much milk are you steaming? I assume you're simply streaming a smaller milk volume. Cheers.
@@Coffee_Kev Yes mine does that too, and it seems that while it's making this high pitch whissling noise it doesn't frother the milk properly. I've been trying to make latte art using it but still without success so far. Not sure if the problem is the machine or the operator.
Hi Philip, I find full fat the easiest to steam and pour, it's possible with semi and milk alternatives too, but full fat is the easiest to learn with I reckon. Ta
Il devrait y avoir deux réglages sur la baguette, placez-le sur le réglage cappuccino pour commencer, laissez ce réglage jusqu'à ce que vous pensiez avoir suffisamment de mousse (cela nécessite des essais et des erreurs), puis passez au réglage du lait chaud jusqu'à ce que votre lait atteigne le niveau requis. Température. J'espère que ça aide. Kev
I was wondering about cleaning the wand when you have the cable tie on. Do you have to take the cable tie off each time you use the machine to clean the wand? Or do you just purge the wand and do not remove it to wash? Hopefully my question makes sense
I have just not been taking the cable ties off, and cleaning the rubber tip by steaming a pitcher of water. I can't imagine too much milk can get build up when regularly cleaning the rubber part
Sorry for the delayed reply. As long as you clean the outside, by giving it a good wipe, and take it off occasionally and give the whole thing a decent soak, you should be fine. Cheers.
DO NOT TRY AT HOME OR AT LEAST IF YOU DO HEAR MY WARNING: - Make sure it isn't too tightly secured it was too tight (it burst off from the pressure and burnt my hand) - Make sure it is tight enough otherwise it could drop off (burning your hand) - Monitor it's tightness after each use also side question @Coffee Kev do you know if there is a way to make the steamer cold for cold milk (turn it into a frother) it seems impossible i've been thinking about it because I love milkshakes and it would be great for the milk but idk how to do it
I’ve had this machine for years and was never able to steam milk correctly with its panarello. All the videos i watched suggested removing it and i did for a while but now after watching you do this amazing cappuccino, i reattached it and voila amazing creamy cup, zero art of course but the consistency and taste is great. Thank you very much 😊
Excellent, glad to hear that! 😎👍
I wish it was easier to tell from this video what sort of angle and depth the wand / panarello are being held at, relative to the milk and jug. I have a Dedica S Smart with the same wand setup and am struggling to get good microfoam results, so was hoping to be able to learn from this video.
Thanks so much! Looking at buying a Dedica but the steam arm was the one thing putting me off. Didn’t fancy buying a new steam arm - thankfully don’t have to now!
Nicely done!! In fact, changing from cappuccino to hot milk setting sort of replicates what many baristas do with proper steam wands, which is keeping them close to the surface and then submerging them once there's the appropriate amount of foam for the drink they're preparing. I quite like the panarello on the dedica! The biggest flaw there to me it's that it mostly requires several seconds to REALLY come up to decent pressure, and not just 2-3 as stated to purge residual water
Yes it achieves the same thing, and the texture I got from this was really quite a wet velvety microfoam, not what I'd expect a panarello to be capable of at all! Cheers
Same observation. These small consumer appliance espresso machines require really letting the pressure build up and purging the line more than once and more than a few seconds before using the milk steaming wand. The green "ready" light on many home espresso machine is not quite ready yet. When the green ready light is on just purge the water from the milk steaming wand until all the water AND any uneven sputtering is removed (this may take a good 5 to 7 seconds) then let the pressure build up for a couple of minutes again and then purge the line a second time. The difference is totally noticeable where on the second purge the steam is so hot that it is an even hissing sound (no sputtering) and barely any steam vapor is noticeable because really hot pressurized steam vapor is not that visible.
this help me so much! thank you. I was only using the cappuccino option and getting too much bubbles. Thanks!
Glad it helped :-), cheers, Kev
Great vídeo!! Nice camera work and love to see the difference between milks and what a powerful little thing this machine is! Congrats!!
Hi, cheers for your comment the camerawork and editing was done by me :) also awesome anavae shirt in your profile pic both me and kev are big fans
Ah cool, so you can remove the bit from the end and get good results. The older model Dedicas like mine don't have a cappuccino/hot milk switch on the 'panarello' (TIL a new word...) so I seem to just end up with a big blob of thick, lukewarm foam every time. I'll try the steam pipe for my next coffee!
sorry for the delayed reply. Yeah you can remove the panarello, just remember to cable tie the rubber pipe. Cheers.
@@Coffee_Kev Oh I haven't done that, I didn't experience any explosions like in your clip. It is an older model so I suppose the construction is slightly different.
@@dananskidolf Yeah they don't all need a tie on the pipe, just if they pop off and cover you with milk, then is the time to go looking for a cable tie ;-).
Hi, thanks for sharing the method. My problem with my dedica is that the pressure is not consistent. On some days, the pressure is too strong that the milk would spilled and splattered everywhere within seconds.. do you have any tips for this? Thank you 🙏
The more water in the tank the stronger the pressure. Just fill the water tank to the max mark everytime you make coffee, you'll get the same pressure.
@@AltoVenova Oh I have never thought of that. Will try this, thanks so much!
Mine explodes as well! (the rubbery funnel there) i thought i was the only one who had this issue. So, we can just tie something to it as seen in the video! Will try this on my Dedica.
Yeah a simply tie wrap does the trick :-). Cheers.
Hey, great video! I have the same machine, however, every time I try to steam I usually always get the big bubbles in the milk and extremely inconsistent foam. I've tried adjusting the wand, but still the result is the same. Any tips on how to better that?
That means you are adding too much air. Shift the switch to hot milk when you think you have added enough air and tilt the pitcher a bit for milk to start rotating. This should give you creamy texture after some time.
sorry for the delay, but what Aniruddh said, put it on cappuccino setting just until you've aerated it enough, then switch to hot milk mode. Try leaving it on cappuccino setting just until the jug starts to get warm, I'd guess after about 30/40 seconds depending on the jug and how much milk is in it. Cheers
Hi, may I know how to fix the steam wand from shooting all the way to my milk jug and how to prevent splattering during frothing? Thanks!
Thanks for the video it actually helped alot😘😘
Glad you found my post helpful :-)
Capuchins is the only thing I cared about and the thickness of the milk is the most important thing for me. In this price range, this is the best machine?
For this price range, given what you've said, I would say the dedica is one of the best choices, you can get decent milk foam either with the panarello wand, or manually by using the steam pipe underneath.
Amazing video! Quick question, my dedica is spitting too much water from the steam pipe, is that normal? is that something that I need to empty before doing this? (seems to never end xD)
Thanks so helpful video❤
Thanks, glad my video helped you :-)
My steam pipe has occasionally started to spit in milk and cause a whirlwind of violent bubbles is the steam wand too hot, and if so what's the best way to remedy this. Thanks in advance.
The think is : can i make more soft foam instead of this watery foam? Because i dont want drawings and stuff like that. I want a normal cappuccino. 1/3 coffee 1/3milk 1/3 foam..
Sure. This guide is for making more wet foam for third wave milkies. Ill do another video on this, but for more traditional Cappuccino with spoonable foam just go for a more aggressive aeration, break the surface more so you're creating bigger bubbles. Cheers
Should i use cappuccino or hotmilk setting for milk frothing ( trying to do latte art but milk frothing part still messed up
It's mentioned in the video that you should start with cappuccino, and once there's enough air in the milk, switch to hotmilk and keep the milk swirling until it reaches the right temperature.
Sorry for the delayed reply, but yeah what srtxko said, start with cappuccino to aerate, then move it to hot milk. Or remove the panarello and cable tie the pipe. Cheers :-), Kev.
Just got mine but the steam wand never stays on for that long
better to remove that metall tube and make the right foam in three steps: 1) funnel - load to the depth of 1 cm to create a dunnel but not in the center!. 2) make a foam within 3-5 secs - you need to lower the pitcher down 1 cm - need to hold the bottom of the pitcher until your hand felt stronger warms ( the temperature must be not such a strong but almost it) 3) raise the pitcher by 3 cm for mixing of a foam. You should add some extra milk before, because some of foam will be delaminated and the lowest part will turn into milk. shake the foam all the time while you are pouring into a cup.
Any time I turn on the steamer the water keeps coming out it .. I what is with that? Thought it was just supposed to be steam. I fill my pitcher with milk then it just gets filled with water and doesn’t even froth… any suggestions???
You're turning on the steam, letting it heat, and literally just water is coming out? Could be a few things, this reddit thread might help: www.reddit.com/r/espresso/comments/x6ly90/delonghi_dedica_ec685_steam_wand_leaking_no_steam/
Ensure that you’ve pressed the steam button (far right button) first and let it adjust to steaming temp (flashing to solid light) before turning the steamer on. If you just leave it on the shot setting (left/middle button) and enable the steamer, it will just release hot water.
My machine can't do steam two jugs in a row, it needs to rest for s little bit, is that normal? Or there is something wrong? Thanks
You have the E685? So you stop the steaming, and then try to steam again almost straight away? I think what's probably happening is you've stopped steaming, so it's going back to shot temp, and then you're setting it back to steam temp again so it needs to up the temp. What you may want to try is just getting a bigger jug and steaming all the milk you want in one go. Cheers.
hi coffee kev! how deep do you submerge the panarello for the cappuccino setting??
Hi Sabrina,
It shouldn't matter how deep you submerge the wand as long as its in the milk :-)
I have bought this model as a replacement for my EC680 which broke after 6 satisfying years of regular use. I could make perfect thick foam using whole milk with the old model but the foamer on this new model is a disappointment. It's just not thick enough. I like it so that I can spoon it of the top and I can form it into peaks like whipped cream. This new model makes too large bubbles that forms only a thin layer on the top of the coffee. Any tips to get that thick foamy texture I am missing?
Hi Judy,
Just to confirm, does your machine have two settings on the wand?
Cheers
Kev
@@Coffee_Kev Yes, I have been using the Cappuccino setting.
cant recreate this.. the nozzle is just too short, does that mean i had to use a smaller pitcher? what size are you using
It's a 17 ounce - it's probably that you're not using enough milk - if you use more milk or use a smaller pitcher, that should work. Cheers, Kev
I got my first delonghi espresso machine and can't for the life of me figure out how to foam the milk. I am trying to make machiatto but can't get the panarello to work on either cappuccino or hot milk setting? Does anyone know what I am doing wrong ?
nice video! I was wondering what espresso would you recommend this Delonghi or Gran Gaggia Espresso (you have a review about this one as well). I don't know which one to choose these two are in my budget and I am a beginner
Hi. Sorry for the delayed reply. It's a tricky one, the main benefit of going for the Dedica is that it's easy to get a non pressured basket for it, so if you're wanting to go with standard baskets, you may be better with the dedica. The only thing then is that for the price of a new dedica, you can usually get hold of a used pre 2009 gaggia classic, which are a great first home barista machine in my humble opinion. That's how I started, see coffeeblog.co.uk/gcoldmodel
My machine doesn't steam as long as yours for some reason. Not even half the time if I'm honest any tips on Where I'm going wrong
Have u got a thermometer? Can u check what temp its reaching? How much milk are you steaming? I assume you're simply streaming a smaller milk volume. Cheers.
@@Coffee_Kev thanks for the reply I was doing it completely wrong with way too much milk 😂
what type of milk are you using for best result ? Skimmed ? Low fat ? Full fat ?
For best results, full fat 👍
Hi my machine make this weird motor noise when I try to steam the milk. Any ideas ? Thanks
Sorry for the delay. You still having this issue? Cheers
@@Coffee_Kev Yes mine does that too, and it seems that while it's making this high pitch whissling noise it doesn't frother the milk properly. I've been trying to make latte art using it but still without success so far. Not sure if the problem is the machine or the operator.
Does the type of milk make a difference? Full fat/Semi skimmed?
Hi Philip, I find full fat the easiest to steam and pour, it's possible with semi and milk alternatives too, but full fat is the easiest to learn with I reckon. Ta
great idea .
how do you remove it
Mon lait est trop chaud et ne monte pas en mousse.. que faire? Merci!
Il devrait y avoir deux réglages sur la baguette, placez-le sur le réglage cappuccino pour commencer, laissez ce réglage jusqu'à ce que vous pensiez avoir suffisamment de mousse (cela nécessite des essais et des erreurs), puis passez au réglage du lait chaud jusqu'à ce que votre lait atteigne le niveau requis. Température.
J'espère que ça aide.
Kev
@@Coffee_Kev comment régler la température du lait svp? Le menu est où exactement sur la cafetière... Ex peser sur le menu
@@Coffee_Kev merci beaucoup 🤗🤗🤗
I was wondering about cleaning the wand when you have the cable tie on. Do you have to take the cable tie off each time you use the machine to clean the wand? Or do you just purge the wand and do not remove it to wash? Hopefully my question makes sense
I have just not been taking the cable ties off, and cleaning the rubber tip by steaming a pitcher of water. I can't imagine too much milk can get build up when regularly cleaning the rubber part
Sorry for the delayed reply. As long as you clean the outside, by giving it a good wipe, and take it off occasionally and give the whole thing a decent soak, you should be fine. Cheers.
why no black cable tie? just joking :)
Hy. My steamer is not working... any tips?
Hi, no steam at all? If so I'd contact whoever you bought it from if it's still under warranty. Cheers
Why my milk won't froth?
DO NOT TRY AT HOME OR AT LEAST IF YOU DO HEAR MY WARNING:
- Make sure it isn't too tightly secured it was too tight (it burst off from the pressure and burnt my hand)
- Make sure it is tight enough otherwise it could drop off (burning your hand)
- Monitor it's tightness after each use
also side question @Coffee Kev do you know if there is a way to make the steamer cold for cold milk (turn it into a frother) it seems impossible i've been thinking about it because I love milkshakes and it would be great for the milk but idk how to do it
A mechanical frother is the way to go. Use a french press a blender anything of the sort
Yeeeeessss
I can never achieve this using my dedica lol
Practice makes perfect :-)
It's distracting to have the music because I can't hear foaming sounds.
Sorry, this is one of my oldest videos, I was still learning , Hopefully you can see the improvement in my more recent videos :-)
@@Coffee_Kev oops, didn't know it was that old. I'll check out your new videos.
Where do you get the steampipe?
Just pull the plastic panarello wand off and the rubber pipe is underneath
WHICH OF THE 3 BUTTONS ON THE FRONT PANEL WAS PUSHED? SINCE NO ANSWER WAS GIVEN AND SINCE THE EXPLANATION WAS NOT FUL I UNSUBSCRIBED.
The steam one