Fedora Workstation 39 - The Most Boring Release Ever - and it's Great!
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- Опубліковано 8 чер 2024
- Fedora celebrates 20 years in November of 2023, and just a day shy of that amazing milestone version 39 has been released. Fedora 39 features the GNOME 45 desktop, and not much else. In fact, it's quite boring. But you know what? With this release, that's a great thing! In this quick review, Jay will take a look at Fedora 39.
Congratulations to the entire team behind Fedora - 20 years of an awesome Linux distro is definitely something to be extremely proud of!
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00:00 - Intro
01:38 - Fedora's 20th anniversary
02:25 - What's new in Fedora 39?
03:54 - GNOME 45's new Activities Button
05:07 - Other improvements in Fedora 39
07:13 - Closing Thoughts
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Thanks for the great review and happy birthday to us! 🥳
Great video. Congrats to your 500 000 milestone. I started my Linux jurney with Red Hat Linux 8 and 9, then moved over to Fedora Core 1 when it got available. Currently running Fedora 39 Cinnamon spin on one of my workstations. Fedora have always felt reliable and fast.
Almost been a lifelong debian/Ubuntu user but for the past year Fedora for Desktop has been a solid choice for me.
It's repos are much closer to bleeding edge with just the right amount of stability for desktop use.
I understand I can always compile from source in debian too but it always seems like a Hassel personally.
Plus most of not all my AI/ML workloads work seamlessly.
I always appreciate your videos on Linux topics; always seem to be well balanced and grounded. Thank you.
Upgrading to Fedora 39 literally fixed all GNOME performance issues I was seeing on 38. My job just became 10x easier. Boring but great indeed!
Good to know, for me isnt very bothering on performance, but there's room for improvement! I was considering upgrading, now i'll backup my data and do it
Congratulations on the milestone and the new studio Jay. And great video as always.
Congratulations on 500K subscribers! You have a great channel, and deserve it and more!
Congratulations on reaching this landmark. thank you for all your hard work.
I’ve installed Fedora 39 on my home desktop computer. So far I like it pretty good. Of course there are some trade offs using a distro with such bleeding edge packages and software. However, it seems stable and works well the way it is. I am an administrator at work for RHEL 7 and 8 so there is a certain degree of knowledge and experience that is common to both. I do like the plain vanilla gnome 45 desktop.
I am thinking of trying Fedora again after using release 13 back in 2011. I will be using Cinnamon though but that is my preference. How has Nvidia driver support been. I heard the proprietary drivers are not where they were 15 years ago
You got any advice for an aspiring RHEL administrator?
@@robert5320 Do whatever you need to do to get RHCSA certification. Also, watch many of the videos on Learn Linux TV here on UA-cam.
Congrats on 500k! A very respectful milestone!
I like Fedora 39 (up from 38) and use it in Virtualbox. I don't need flashy just something that works for basic stuff. Was thinking of putting it on my other laptop instead of POP but I'm lazy (pop machine also just works) and kinda waiting to see what COSMIC turns out to be.
Congrats on the 500K subs.
Have to absolutely agree that F39 is extremely solid.
Coming from Windows, I couldn't make sense of the GNOME ui, so I installed Cinnamon and I'm satisfied.
Awesome you deserve it man, great content. Always good to have your opinion, keep it up!
Been using Arch for years then switched to fedora because I did not have the time to put the required effort into maintaining my computers... Fedora has been super boring... I didn't even change the default look lol But it works good out of the box and it's easy to maintain and good enough documented... And that's perfectly fine
03:27 This little feature you missed - you should now be able to vertically resizing both windows (the border sticks together). It is temporarily active until one window is resized individually and horizontally or closed.
04:52 - Can also be accessed by moving the mouse pointer all the way up to upper left corner and hold for a sec.
One thing to be aware of: In live desktop, the top command will probably show way less than a gig ram usage, but after install, the usage goes to about 2 gig. Not an issue these days because modern computers seldom have less than 8 gigs of ram, but for older computer with only 4 gigs then the xfce or mate spins are better choices.
Nice work! nice setup as well!
Do you verify your ISO images? I had a debian install messed up because the ISO was corrupt, corrupt ISO was what might have gone wrong in your ubuntu 23.04 review.
Thank you for making shorter reviews when that is enough and not, like others, blow small things out of proportion just to make a longer wow-video!
I've been using Fedora for the past 3 years and it just...works.
Love Gnome also, the workspace idiom was easy to get used to and is easy to navigate with the keyboard.
Wow, I haven't been on your channel is a while... Man your videos look great, nice lighting, nice camera, etc.. Good Job 🙂
I love Fedora, used it for years. But developers these days seem to not include it in their package. Everything now a days seem to be only compatible with Deb or Ubuntu specifically. Thats the only reason i switched to Ubuntu for my PC and PoP on my laptop
This is disappointing, as I switched to Fedora from Ubuntu due to numerous scaling issues, Bluetooth, and PulseAudio problems. In contrast, everything worked out of the box with Fedora.
Same for me@@lebranding ! I got tired of buggy ubuntu and tried Debian, but it wasnt for me, so when i got Fedora 38 running, all good and flawless. It just works! Sure there are some workarounds with compatibility (for some thing i use Wine, for others web based applications and it meets my needs) but other than that is really good for someone that uses as a regular workstation.
I honestly enjoyed this release. it is a lot more stable than 38, coming from opensuse leap to 38 then to 39. I am satisfy. I needed to uninstall spotify and re install it because of a black screen glitch. I feel that a APU glitch because running the program with nvidia did work but not with amd graphics. Also I notice on NVMe's the loading and rendering times has improve greatly :)
Ayy congrats on the 500k subs Jay. Been here since before 100k. Here's to 500k more!
I recently(ish) switched from Arch to Fedora (38, now 39). It's close enough to bleeding edge, and it's very solid indeed. Fedora 39 is really good.
and it's slower lol including package manager and you don't have aur
@@sixdroid With Flatpaks being a thing, why do Arch users still praise the AUR? Whenever I have used Arch, I haven't used the AUR because any application I want/need is either offered through pacman or is available as a Flatpak. Personally, the AUR is the last way I would want to get software in Arch.
It's faster in 39.. and I've had no need for the AUR so far. Everything is available, either in the repos or as rpm from the source. My printer worked out of the box as well :p @@sixdroid
@@sixdroidoh no I don't have aur. Whatever will I do?
@@LosPompadores the installer is always full of bugs,selinux is setted in a way that you have a slower system then ext4 ubuntu or arch,you have to add repos to have a working system,etc
I have installed Fedora with every new release since 35 and was disappointed until Fedora 39. This one actually works, it's a little slow and clunky in some parts, but overall, it's much better than the previous releases. Currently I'm using Fedora Cinnamon 39 and was surprised that it doesn't include the Boxy and Fedora Writer in the Cinnamon desktop. I'll add those manually. Other than that, it's doable. Bravo to the Fedora team for listening to it's users.
Congratulations on the half million mark!!!!
Congrats on the 500k Subscribers!!
Amazing review, thanks a lot.
Just recently found your channel but I’m glad to be a permanent subscriber! More more more🙏
I've been really enjoying my installation for the past week.
I have been using fedora gnome since v34. I have tried other distros and de but always comes back to fedora
I tried it on my laptop with a qhd screen and gnome isn't optimized for that. I didn't want to enable fractional scaling. Just hope they find a solution for that in fedora 40.
What screen recording tool do you use on Linux/Fedora?
Would you recommend this for a Linux newbie?
Very high ram usage a few minutes after boot which doesn't decrease. I have 8Gb or ram on my brand-new laptop, and it takes up 85% of it without even using it. Is that energy efficient?
Congrats for the 500k subcribers. Keep making great videos.
I migrate to linux after learn it through your videos.
Would you make a review on ultramarine linux pantheon edition?
You deserve it (500k) 🎉
Few things about F39 I noticed: Installer was very easy and worked great! Fedora Media Writer didn’t work for me, had to use Rufus on my Windows PC. Updates via the Software app are slow and feel similar to Windows Updates. DNF works well but kind of slow, even with fastermirror and setting max parallel downloads to 10. It’s poky on my laptop but my laptop has a 5th gen i5 and 4 GB of RAM, I’m sure it will be much faster when I install on my desktop with way better specs. Stock Gnome needs some tweaks to be functional imo, but I still love it. Flatpak didn’t set permissions correctly when I installed Chrome, quick fix in FlatSeal though.
Overall , I am happy with the experience despite the minor negatives.
Hoping to upgrade to a better laptop in the future that will run Fedora and Gnome much better. Also might try KDE.
I like Fedora because I feel it sits comfortably between Arch and Ubuntu in terms of bleeding edge packages. I like how they have more of a rollong release feel than Ubuntu, with new kernel versions regularly coming out, but that they also test the packages more than Arch does so you know it wont beeak and doesn't need manual intervention. Solid distro for someone who just wants to get things done.
I just installed this as a dual-boot on my Dell gaming laptop. I love it. I was looking for a change from Ubuntu, which I've installed on almost every laptop I've ever owned, and I decided to take a chance on F39 despite Fedora's history with Nvidia cards (I've had nothing but trouble in the past getting Fedora to work with them).
Hi, Would you recommend Fedora 39 over Linux Mint 21.2 ? Thank you for your time. Have a great day.
I went with Linux Mint because RedHat can't help but want Fedora to have telemetry. I left Windows to get away with that. The fact it's even a discussion turned me off from Fedora.
I've seen other vloggers use a feature that shows the key strokes as they are using them. This is popular with NeoVIM vloggers since it is heavily keyboard driven.
i am going to use fedora 39 with pop shell from pop os because i just love their auto tiling feature i think fedora should have come up with the auto tiling feature
Just installed it and love it!
I use Manjaro and I like it. is fedora workstation is as easy as manjaro? my server is fedora server, i have not tried f39 workstation. I hope you can give my recommendation, should I switch from manjaro to fedora or not. thank you.
I remember Fedora 1 trying to unify GTK and QT look with it's own theme (blue something...). Unfortunately it was not well received.
I believe you are referring to bluecurve . That seemed to be well received to me if I remember correctly.
Take before your left cast that you always have. I’ve been trying to decide which workstation OS I’m planning to upgrade my equipment to and I’m really leaning towards what you recommended versus using Microsoft again kudos and thank you.
I am the one who used Fedora1 I remember buy the Fedora1 CD-ROM and install it in laptop I can not connect to the internet or use the printer because of the drivers problem.
Anyone know what docking station with work with Fedora 39?
What about fedora kde ?! Do you recommend it.
I love Fedora. it JUST WORKS for me
I got a question: when fedora is installed on my computer, how can I install a new fedora version without erasing my hard disk ? Will u have a tutorial about that ? (Excuse me about how I speak English)
It will notify you of a new version automatically. But only for Workstation edition, KDE, and Budgie spins.
How is Fedora usually upgraded, say from 38 to 39?
good on 4k 27 display ?
your videos are awesome 👏👏👏
Glad you like them!
how install eithernet cable? please tell me, it's needed, I don't know how to connected ethernet connnected
Can you make series about terraform? Like you done for ansible
Non of the Linux distros were able to perfectly set my display scaling but windows does it automatically and perfectly.
Nice video
I have been running Fedora 39 (KDE Spin) since its release as an experiment since I am not very experienced with Red Hat/RPM based distros and I wanted to try something new, and honestly I'm not impressed. It is far more stable than I recall it being in a VM or running live a few releases ago, but its repositories lack more applications than I'm comfortable with and I have had no luck in getting those programs running using third party packages following instructions I found online (which actually *did* work for F38).
It might be a solid, stable and "boring" release, which are all traits that I do like in an OS--but those things just don't mix with such a short lifecycle. Once the next release is out, I will probably switch to Debian 12, the new Ubuntu LTS, or one of the many distributions based on either one of them. Or if I feel like staying experimental, I might try the latest openSUSE or Mageia, (both of which I do like, and have used openSUSE myself a fair bit in the past). Debian-based is generally my comfort zone, and I don't like modern (post 2.x) GNOME.
DNF5 is fast… love it I am running Fedora Rawhide 40 with Hyprland with Kernel 6.7 is fast and beautiful. I have everything like on Arch with Fedora on Steroids 😱😂😎
I follow Fedora in a Virtualbox VM since Fedora 33 and I've upgraded last week from 38 to Fedora 39. I like Fedora, but I use Ubuntu 23.10 and I use Ubuntu since 8.04 LTS and I have no reason to change.
It is an international law to change to change to Fedora
As long time windows power user who just tried Linux for the first time, Ubuntu's snaps suck. That Canonical company also seems sketchy. I ended up switching to Fedora, and also picked the KDE version because it's more familiar to the windows layout I guess.
Fedora could possibly make me try Gnome but I really don't like that they completey dropped Xorg, it's still not time for such a big move...
you can use x from login and a different desktop environment
@@sixdroid Until version 40 where the Gnome and KDE spins will completely remove X11 as an option. I think this person has decided not to use version 39 if the next version is going to remove Xorg and they would have to distrohop anyway once version 40 releases.
@@narwhal4304 you can now you can always switch to different de if you want xorg
Youre welcome 👍 i should thank you as well!
Long term Pop OS user here. As i am not certain how successful their cosmic will be, i am looking for a fall back. I tried Fedora 39 now, and this may be it, impressed by the fresh packages. A bit struggling, when coming from debian/ubuntu with the differences though. Wtf is dracut🤣😉 of course nvidia was a bit confusing to install (blacklist nouveau was necessary).
Most of the linux based isn't working properly in my laptop acer nitro 5 ryzen 5 7th gen with rtx 3050 . I can't control brightness and Bluetooth issue
always big problems with nvidia cards and drivers. But there are fixes and tweaks for just about everything else. Perseverance is the key.
Awesome distro \m/
The last release before telemetry is added :'(
This just in...Remember how I said I was using Fedora Cinnamon Spins. It drops all the good packages that I mentioned in my earlier post. Such as the Fedora Writer...gone. The Boxes (I said Boxy)...gone. So, I flipped Fedora the bird, and reinstalled Linux Mint. So close, so close.
The theme/skin of Mozilla browser was so beautiful back then… ❤
Is it worth upgrading from Fedora 38?
I go Fedora KDE Plasma!
Wow. Fedora Core 1 had that Red Hat logo or it's customization? Wasn't that some violation?
No, it originated from Red Hat. In fact it was known as Red Hat 10 during beta
Wow you can customize which columns the file manager should show? What an outstanding and avantgardistic idea! I almost feel like a Gnome user would be overwhelmed by so much choice and I'm pretty sure they'll scrap that feature again eventually.
Hello Beautiful People.I have a Linux laptop and a windows computer. I want to buy a physical usb drive, for different files, common to both systems. How to choose the type of formatting for a physical usb drive so that it can be seen in two systems (write, read).
ExFat, NTFS, others ? Good day.
I started with RedHat 6 and now I'm back to see what I may have missed. I'm glad to see, not much.
Fedora 1 has got more soul the entire planet earth worth of souls
Laughs from Debian 12 the most secure ,stable distro known to man!
Bullshit.
Updated from 38 the day it dropped..been thinking of switching to pop just because of the way red hat is acting ATM
I would. I haven't used Fedora since 2021; the behavior around CentOS 8 was the catalyst, and things have only gotten worse since then.
But Pop is too old. I get that they're developing COSMIC, but halting all development on distro versions for it? IDK.
I'm not happy with the way Redhat is acting either. Even though I loved fedora in the past. I'm running base Debian right now. It's not bad. I might have to run Debian Sid in a year or two though. I'm not sure what your use-case is but I like to stick with Debian Or Arch.
nice haircut!
fedora going all in wayland side pushed to ever touching it until all my hardware supports on wayland . Till then x11 rules
Google said fedora has good nvidia driver support
I haven't noticed any difference from 38, but I use the Budgie desktop, because I like boring.
not the budgie desktop 😭 i always wondered why they always used to make that the default, its so ugly and boring! No shade towards you though, to each his own.
It is maybe a boring release but it's faster compared to 38 and more resource efficient.
You say its boring, but I know you're a Debian fan so I know it's a compliment
Liked it but, Fedora kernel is awful. tried the KDE spin but monitor looks on sleep and need to be power reset from the plugg, weirdest issue ever. could not solve it, 13th gen Intel cpu, with IGPU.
Also allot of graphical errors in KDE like endless window glitches in the background spawning in to millions. but this is a KDE issue among other distros I also tried.
Kirby! ❤
Fedora 1 is the new arch
install kde and more exciting wayland look
boring, but good. The question is, do you prefer to sit on a wobbly chair or a stable chair? Of the Linux distros I've tested over the last few years, this is a highly recommended Linux distro. And I'm not too worried about the telemetry data. You can turn it off. After all, you get a very stable Linux system that's suitable for everyday use. And that's what counts. It has the right balance between up-to-date software and stability. And by the way, no XZ Utils problem in Fedora 39.
But in Arch Linux. And by the way, I use brain.😁
530,001. I just subbed.
Anyone suffering from the blurry apps when display scale = 125% ?
Fractional scaling? I have a 32inch 4K gigabyte screen .
I love Fedora, but using it with KDE..
I dont know what it is, but I really dont like Gnome.
I don't like GNOME out of the box, but I think it can look better than any of them when customized, and also has more features and plugins available.
@@SnowTheParrot have to try and see if i can cusomize it on a VM first then.
Was Fedora bought or owned - by Red Hat?
fedora is great amd works far better on my hardware than ubuntu
I think the most exciting thing about Fedora is how something so boring can be so useful lol.
im coming from the disaster that is arch linux endeavoros, a true nightmare of instability and kernel breaking issues.