What If Britain Became Fascist? | Alternate History
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- What if Britain became fascist under the leadership of everyone's favorite Hearts of Iron character, Sir Oswald Mosley?
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Could you make Alternative History Scenario that leads into 1984?
In this scenario why didn't germany and japan ally?
What if rasputin survived his assassination or if russia was fascist
@@jakefitzsimmons1213 He already did that Russia was fascist.
Moseleys electoral plan (you vote for a representative in you’re person field of expertise) genuinely sounds like a good idea, I always thought it stupid when an elected MP with no knowledge of something like farming would be put in charge of agricultural policy.
it does sound good, it's called a technocracy if you want to read more about it
Germany have a different approach to technocracy. To become a candidate for election in a certain position, the candidate had to be qualified or have some certification that he's educated in the matter. I'm just surprised there are so many people who hate technocracy in general no matter the approach
Occupational franchise in my opinion would only work in the framework of an industrial economy. There are simply far too large a variety of jobs being done with an international and cross-disciplinary attributes for something like occupational franchise to work
Jack Nunez yeah, I was thinking how hard it would be with our current economic system, that being said I’m certainly not a fan of the current economic system.
@@johnwright9454 Oh not at all. Exportation of production capacity and the globalisation of markets must end. The growth imperative of modern finance capitalism is destroying the nobility of work and the foundations of the nation
Some of his ideas on policies seem quite fitting and would likely receive decent support if voted for nowadays
Lowering income tax but increasing tax on products, also lowering building tax for new businesses would be better and encourage new shops, also any abandoned or unused building for x amount of years should be offered to a apsiring business paid by the government with the business just having to pay for it later when the business takes off
Bradders -
But they won’t. Because nabzi bad and zionivsm good
@@sausagejockyGaming So, let's say I have a property I want to renovate or eventually demolish, but haven't got the money yet. Are you suggesting it be expropriated from me?
Jason Hunt i assume you are talking about a house property which is different to a business property, but if its a business property and is not used for x amount of years its a literal waste of land and is very bad for the economy so yes i would have it bought off you, you shouldnt have bought property if you didnt have the money
@@sausagejockyGaming That's not considering the state of the economy. The land could be a bargain at the time, so a good investment, but during a bad economy, further investment wouldn't make sense, due to the time value of money. You'll likely have debts to pay to cover the renovations and if the economy is bad, that's far riskier.
Sir Oswald Mosely was actually laughed at by the Conservatives as he said that he didn't agree with the persecution of the Irish. He then left the party and joined Labour, but left after he took a wonderful idea to them and they ignored him. So, he made his own party.
But Sir Oswald Mosley is evil!!!
Labour were a socialist party then and were not going to go down the anti Semite path Moseley wished,so he left.
What was this "wonderful idea"__ drive Jewish owned businesses out of the country?😶
And even then, that party, the "new party" was NOT the BUF. The next one he founded - the "new new party" - was.
Mosley was a hardcore Socialist, like Mussolini was too. All these people come from Socialist backgrounds.
Alternate title: What if we lived in a period instead of society?
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Period? I didn't understand that
@@ceccascorp8149 I believe it came from a video of Mosley talking about unemployment, in which he starts with "we live in a period..."
What a time it would be if we lived in a period where politicians were actually popular
@@ceccascorp8149 It comes from a 1931 address by Mosley in which he starts "We live in a period in which politicians are not very popular." and shown in cinemas.
British Union of Gamers, assemble!
Time to show the natives an *EPIC GAMER MOMENT*
@@seanurbik2689 Frickin minority, stop oppressing us.
mosley the saviour of gamers
GaMeRs RisE uP
Austria Hungary just stop ur not funny
I love playing as Oswald in HOI4
@Wilhelm II. Nah nr, it's a trade. A shorter justify time with less pp
@Brett Kozlak hearts of iron 4
Wilhelm II. I agree my Kaiser
Alexander Halpin not if you take the kings party path and then you take the focus god save the king as it removes the penalty of having less pp
Oswald has no war support
we can all agree that this sounds better than our actual reality
El legado creepypasta no I don’t
A snek Boi What would you prefer?
Zack A the modern timeline I may not be the best but it’s better than a police state
A snek Boi The problem isn’t a police state, the problem is the right kind of police state.
Zack A no police state is good suppression of speech sexuality and privacy is not good
Simply put! Germany proabably could have taken the Soviet Union if this happened! Hitler would have no reason to Invade the UK as Mosley would have likely cut a deal with Hitler (because Mosley wanted too avoid a WW2) and Hitler could focused all his forces on taking the Soviet Union!
Hitler actually admired the British and was insistent on not going to war with them. Remember the bombing of Dresden, British and American bombing attack on German civilians. One of the worst war crimes ever. By the way, some people (rabid leftists) would try and justify it.
weraboo
@@yroxxoyrroxyry6083 Dresden isn't a war crime.
@@benweaver5042 Same with the “holocaust”
@Cringe2Win I'm not a leftist, and you don't know what a war crime is.
Big thanks from England, I'd recommend the documentary 'Oswald Mosley: Europeans' for more info.
@@zilionis8003 Exactly.
In spirit I am with you, always.
- Sir Oswald Mosley
@@zilionis8003 Same here, I'm more syndicalist than fascist but nevertheless hes inspiring to listen to. He was a fantastic orator, the greatest prime minister our country never had.
@Devil RedHD Up to you mate, for me its always Mosley. Powell didn't seem as revolutionary or as inspirational as Mosley, just my opinion.
@Devil RedHD I know, agreed. Anyhow I'll leave you with the one quote which sums up what Mosley wanted for the UK.
Fascism above all, rests upon teamwork. The ability to pull together, the ability to subordinate every interest of section or individual to the nation as a whole.
- Oswald Mosley.
@Devil RedHD Likewise, best wishes from me.
TLDR Europe wouldn't be crumbling in the 21st century
Europe living conditions are best in the world, I would hardly say it’s crumbling, totalitarianism would make Europe crumble just look at Eastern Europe
@@Malos_ you seriously think that is a good comparison? Fascism and Marxist socialism are hugely different, totalitarianism isn't the same as fascism
NutmegPluto please explain to me how Europe? let me guess, multiculturism and feminism? Facists are such idiots.
@@Jeejurrmgg collapse of morality, religion, family, community. All the things our forefathers worked and bled for has been turned into a cesspit of degeneracy where our leaders have made it clear we are nothing but expendable cogs in the capitalist machine, regardless of race or gender we can all reap the benefits of white innovation and ingenuity, family doesn't matter because women should be working, religion doesn't matter because we have consumerism and hedonism. There are deliberate attempts to destroy the white race and it is being led by a very specific group of people who have historic hatred of the white race and Christianity.
@@Nutmegp and what group would that be?
A world without the Soviets, Mao and with a Europe that is actually Europe? Sometimes you just wish you had a time machine
@Ollie It's nothing wrong with imperialism.
And the Japanese would have been pretty badly defeated by the anglo's controlling an enormous empire. and allied with the also fascist Europe under the nazi's. The Japanese were an alliance of convenience for Hitler. @ollie9486
@@savagedarksider2147there is many things wrong with imperialism, except for if the country wants to be in that sphere and is treated fairly and humanely
What a horrible thing to say.
@ollie9486lgbtq??? 😂😂😂😂
*Moselys New Machine gang rise up*
Hail Mosley
Britains awake
@British Pride my apologies
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All of Europe being formed into one superstate? Sounds familiar
Jamie Kelly And it's again ruled by Germany.
@@user-ii6cj8gi8u Immigrants not Germany
Merkel can't do shit
And it wants to replace the population...
Damn, I can genuinely smell y'all's neckbeards from here.
A Union of -immigrants- Europeans, perhaps?
the Monsieur Z restoration! the re-uploading of old videos that have been banned, now with more facts and info.
Sir Oswald Mosley was a Great man
William wolf seriously? That’s disgusting
British Marxist Mapping Marxism is disgusting. You find progress to be appalling, because communism hasn’t gotten anywhere since the day of its appliance.
@@vorpalspartan1463 how?
Dycewyfe and fascism has?
Get Ass that’s Nazism not Fascism, look at Italy under Mussolini
Thank you for actually discussing Mosley's proposed policies! So many people who cover Fascism (British, Italian, German, and otherwise), just go "alt-Right something something anti-Communist something something authoritarian something something," not appreciating the complex political hybrid that it is. Cheers!
Germany wasn't fascist they were national socialists
@@user-ik3xt1bx2n I appreciate and agree with your distinction 100%! I actually wrote my university senior thesis on Mussolini and Italian Fascism, and it's a peeve of mine when people conflate the two, but I did it in that comment for convenience sake. Good on you for sticking up for the difference, I'm right there with you 🤜🤛😎👍
It's important to keep in mind that Greece, already a fascistic or fascist-synapthizing state in the late 1930s, would probably join the axis, as Britain being with the allies was what kept greece in the allies (along with Mussolini). Chances are in this scenario Greece would be on the other side. That means no humiliating defeat for Mussolini - greece could assist italy in north Africa and maybe even germany against yugoslavia. It also means Germany wouldn't be so delayed with the Balkans and would reach Ukraine before winter, ultimately boosting up the Axis a lot. I'm convinced that this scenario means a definite Axis win.
10:40 before the 1950s Britain was almost entirely ethnically homogeneous, there was essentially no immigrants to repatriate.
That should be brought back
@M S Up exactly. Or the UK could...re-expand
@M S Messes up the Demographics, Unless it's the Americas. Whites shouldn't be in Africa either, and nether blacks or whites should be in East Asia.
@@porchofgeese_crockpot Demographics is more than just skin colour, also according to your logic Russians and Italians and Albanians are free to live in Canada because they’re all white, even though their ethnicity and beliefs are totally different. Why are the Americas special? Why should a Brazilian of Portuguese decent be able to live alongside different groups, but in Japan you shouldn’t be able to.
@@Kuroi_Karasu nah, the UK consists of England, Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland. To each nation is their own ethnicity. It should be homogeneous. Italians should be in Italy, Albanians in Albania, but Russians are located all across the former USSR. Just like how the English are widely spread across the former empire. Plus Brazil and the Americas were end destinations of slave trades, but Japan and East Asia have a pure blood theory.
"Global Finance"
Wew lad.
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What if Rome conquered persia
What if Spain joined the axis
What if Japan never isolated
What if Mexico became communist
What if the Qing dynasty never fell
They switched cause an unnamed and unimportend Nation in North America forced them onto the World Stage, and Ehen you are in it, why not Stay and Meddle a bit
If Trotsky took over Mexico the US would invade. Though people during that time where anti war the idea of a Communist state on our southern border would not be that appealing.
What if Sweden joined the Central Powers after Nikolai Ottovich von Essen attacks Gotland?
@eormenraed hunferthing jesus, chill out
Mexico has gone FULL Socialist (which is pretty much the same as Communist).
Sounds like Britain needs Oswald Mosley now more than ever.
The Greats Prime Minister that Britain “NEVER HAD”.
@@nordiccombatant2167 glad
No fascits..no Nazis ... No Zyklon B
@@SunofYorksilence
@@tom4381 You can silence me when your Fascist government takes over. Until then, belt up old lad coz we Normals are the overwhelming majority. It must be like 1945 for you...laugh out loud
Surprised this isn't (yet) banned in the UK.
Why would it be? Lmao
@@gothelvis3541 Because our country is not a free one, not anymore.
What, people realising things would have been better if we had never started WW2? Thats dangerous information for most Brits to begin to understand. Its lauded as if its the greatest thing thats ever happened, which is complete insanity when you think about it.
@Taiforce Taiforce I wish
"The war led to many technical advances" yeah, technical advances that will destroy the world by the next century
"washing its hand of global police duty"
Something the US could learn from
Something bad happens
Reeeee why isn’t the US do something
US intervenes
Reeeee their foreign imperialist
Everyone else: Vox Adpocalypse oh no!
Mr Z: D I R E C T R U L E
What if Charlie Sheen had been born with 3 heads and the middle one was Chinese.
Mosley was right
Why do all the people running these channels sound the same?
“FBI OPEN UP”
Americans don’t really have a diverse accent like the rest of Europe does. So they all sound the same to us
Reminder for The Eliot Rogers scenario, Eliot rules the waves.
Got a good idea of where it's going, just need a solid ending.
@@MonsieurDean Eliot banishes all the women and minorities and default dances.
@FlickerEdge It sorta stalled after the Joker movie came out. I still have the script, I'm just not sure it's video ready.
@@MonsieurDean Oh em gee, that would be so fucking cool, sorry for the expletive. That would be hilarious.
Imagine how awful London would be today if the fascists would have been in control. COUGH
Yep. It's a good thing neoPakista- i mean London was saved from the horrors that a fascist government would have inflicted upon it.
@@EdgyBushMan I think you missed the sarcasm as it's clearly denoted by an upper case 'COUGH' at the end of the comment.
The Fresh Prince Of Buckingham u were being sarcastic?
Sum Randum Guy PENIS
@@blackassasin175 OP was being ironic...
What if the sack of Constantinople never happened?
What if Constantinople rebuilt the Roman Empire, for 1000 plz?
We may be in the worse timeline, from a British perspective anyway
not for the slavs that's for sure
@@jackward_daladier Nope. Communist rule was bad but If the UK didn't help fight Germany, the slavic peoples would have been enslaved or driven to extinction by the Nazis. Search up about "generalplan ost"
@@alex-sv8ru You mean the ''plan'' that never even made it to Adolf's desk ?
@@alex-sv8ru Slavs are on the road to extinction right now.
Mosley losing is insanely more significant than I ever hear people talk about.
5:50 Annexation of the Rhineland? You mean remilitarization of the Rhineland?
The annexation of Sudetenland...
@@mynewschannel3100 No...because on the map he is showing a highlighted Rhineland
Rhineland wasn't already german? Its just that the germans could not put troops there, right?
@@hellowelcometochillis2781 yes it was a demilitarized zone, so Germany wasn't supposed to put troops there
@@blackassasin175 the French broke thr Treaty of Versailles by building up their military in places they shouldn't have. It's conveniently left out of history books...
The Germans offered peace terms going so far as to say Britain could later use German troops to keep order in their Empire. Britain would acknowledge German control of the continent.
At the 2011 census, London had a population of 8,173,941. Of this number
44.9% were White British. 37% of the population were born outside the
UK, including 24.5% born outside of Europe.
In fascist Britain, 95% of London's population would be White British.
What’s the remaining bit?
@@ArturBaidi it would probably still have a large minority since its the capital of a multi ethnic empire, but it wouldn't be as bad as irl london
@@sircoloniser5454either people who didn’t answer, or are non-white but born In the uk
What if Tecumseh successfully united the tribes to become a North American Confederacy?
Also, love the extra historical details of this video!
What if Victoria Woodhull becomes president of the United States?
There was little recognition that the first women to unsuccessfully run for president before Hillary Clinton would have changed American history. If Victoria won the presidential election against Ulysses S. Grant, then America would be first, of course, allow women to vote even before the twentieth century.
I could go on and on about this scenario, but my research is pretty scarce as not many people would know about Victoria woodhull. Also, Frederick Douglass would have been vice president if Victoria was elected!
@@novatheredwitch1573 ew, bad scenario. Only good version of this is Robert E Lee's corpse being a president.
What if roosevelt was president in ww1
I would make this country great again
Hello brow
Hello
@@angrymanwithsillymoustasche
@@oswaldmosley4315 😃😄 we live in a period.
@@angrymanwithsillymoustasche where I can get put on a mi6 list for my views :(
@@oswaldmosley4315 Don't know mann
What if Britian and France became fascist and the Weimar remained social-democratic?
This would be an interesting one
Britain and France would end up fighting each other, the result being France getting steamrolled, as the Weimar Republic would end up siding with Britain, since England and Germany are brother nations, that share an equal amount of annoymosity toward the French.
Implausible scenario. Germany became fascist mostly due to their defeat in ww1 and the debilitating reparations they were forced to pay in the treaty of Versailles. Perhaps this scenario could occur if Germany won ww1, but then it would have remained a Monarchy and the Weimar republic wouldn't have existed to begin with.
@S K I dont get your comment at all.
Without a strong democratic britain and france, the Weimar Repuplic would have had not been weak, and could have easily fendet off nations with half the population.
but i guess they would have won with the power of "fascism" whooho.
maybe you should just keep the "degenerate" for yourself...
@S K 1)&2) yes. right. i assumed you already acceptet the more than stupid premise this thought experiment is based on, because you said a fascist britain/france could beat a democratic germany. and of course it would be post world war, there was no weimar repuplik pre world war.
3)they did not vote to return to an autocratic system, they votet for a party that placet a chancellor who used a loophole to make an autocratic system. slight diffrence, but a diffrence.
besides, how satisfied you are with your government becomes second place when people shoot at you.
4) no dept if the one you have to pay is your enemy, and the international comunitiy would not have done anything against a rearming germany if britain or france turned fascist out of a sudden. they would have had other worries.
also you should keep in mind the amount of nations participating in ww1 besides france and britain, its not like the USA/Russia/India/Australia would help a fascist nation to conquer a democratic one.
and last but not least, and thats what irks me the most, you are seriously calling a flawed democratic system the degeneration of a monarchy lead by a weak, issue riddled, overcompensating and stupid monarch. could you explain that a bit more thoroughly?
This alternate reality sounds actually like a pretty good book series if created.
Out of all Fascist individuals in existence, Oswald is one of the most "cooperative".
I do not think Poland would have accepted the guarantee without Britain there. They would accept one of Germany's deals, be it co-ownership of the Free City of Danzig or compensation in the east in an Anti-Soviet alliance.
@Alexander Challis What? Write that again but properly, and what book are you referring to exactly?
Awesome video.
True Churchill was not only a boozehound he was a bloodthirsty one as well.
And a Germany without having to fight on multiple fronts is more likely to defeat Russia, especially a Russia without lend lease.
Even a drunken Churchill found it easy to defeat you people
@@SunofYork Well, what he did was impress on FDR enough to get lend lease as well nowhere near as much as his precious Ruskies but enough to hang on. Remember had it not been for Göring's cock up with what turned into the terror bombing of London the RAF would have been spent at huge losses to the Luftwaffe but still.
Had Mosley been in the parliament instead of Churchill the war would have been totally different. Germany might have been forced to pick a side between Japan and UK... Or not...
OH, BTW I am Swedish not Deutch.
@@Fenris77 Well any country that spawned Agnetha can't be all that bad. However, in your scenario you conveniently miss out the Germany/UK alliance gassing million of Jews and subjugating much of Europe into having the Fascist characteristics of single party government. acquiescent government dictated courts, and ONE male leader which would not have been Churchill but Adolph... You have excellent English and a silken tongue, but you are selling shoddy Fascist goods
@@SunofYork I did that on purpose. Fascism/Nazism would have made Europe a slaughterhouse even without massive military activities.
And now we have a new fascist regime(s) in the east like Nazi-Russia lumbering around though thanksfully nowhere near as competent as Nazi-Germany and monkeychatter-upstart country Italy.
No I am not selling fascism as I do not like dictatorships or even authoritarianism one bit regardless of ideology. Whether it is political (Fascism, Communism) or religious (Islam). The latter still wants to kill every Jew in existence and subjugate every other human... Communism is still lingering despite the fact it lost the Cold War (Also 100+ million deaths and counting).
Besides any such tightly ethnocentric empire is doomed to fail as soon as any reason for an alliance goes away. I'd give Nazi-Germany until the 1070s at most before it starts collapsing in earnest. True before that millions will have simply "disappeared" or "never existed" (Russian favourite bullshit for their own genocide against for example Ukrainians).
Do you know what’s insane, I personally developed an ideology similar to the industrial democracy of Oswald.
I’m amazed at this.
as I like to say "ideas can't be destroyed, they can only be forgotten until someone comes up with the idea again." although it would most likely have another name to the original.
Whoa the worker shareholder plan is cool
Fascism has only been left wing economically
Many of his ideas, possibly all of them, would most likely be supported nowadays by the British People. They would also, as you’ve stated, prevent the rise of communism and wokeness.
2:52 chad mosely
We would be in a better position
Honestly what would happaned if france and Britain moved troops in the Rhine land. Because i think hitler ordered his troops to retreat if they saw allied troops, didnt he?
@Sakkra101 i wonder what would happen if the french had some balls and upheld the treaty of Versailles.
@@danieltsiprun8080 well, guess that the english were in the same alliance
@@jacobsxavier6082 yes but the english didnt had troops in france at that exact time frame the BEF was still in Britain so it was up to the french to react first. With the British coming to back them up.
@@danieltsiprun8080 there have been months of what was called 'la drôle de guerre' (between the declaration of war and the blitz on France) before the blitz came. That period is when the allies just stayed on the maginot line without doing anything.
You're telling me that none of the british forces were able to do anything on land nor on sea ?
It looks more like they were as willing as the french to start in another world war shitshow which, sarcastically enough, made everything worse.
That is correct but out of context. That was the order that was given when Hitler moved military forces to the Rhineland which breached the treaty of Versailles. This was a period where Germany wasn't at war with the France/Britain whereas you're giving the essence that this was during the invasion of Poland when the western front was quite in comparison and most referred to this period as the "phoney war" where France/Britain didn't really do much even though they were at war with Germany
Wonderful video, Monsieur Z. I hope you can keep making videos as long as you enjoy making them. Keep up the good work!
What if the allies actually attacked Germany during the "phony war" period?
Berb Merley best offence is the best defence
I’m sure they were doing it by sea from the ‘off’.
I recall reading something saying approximately fifty German merchant vessels were sunk in the first six months from September 1939.
Based Spurs fan
@@Richard-zw9sl no, best defense is a good offense, except in asia
@GazB French attacked Germany to attempt to draw some troops away from Poland; they figured if Germany thought the French were invading they would take some pressure off of Poland, of course Germany did not fall for it and ignored the French provocation.
What if Tsar Nicholas II was assassinated during the Otsu incident in 1891?
i would love if this is how it actualy went
History channels: exists*
UA-cam: hahaha NO!
History is fact, and fact hurts feelings. *DELETE IT*
TLDR: We keep the empire and have peace on earth. The planet colonises the moon in the early 90's.
Churchill was a warmonger.
True
And? He fought against a fascist state. He was truly our best PM.
@@alex-sv8ru You're never going to make it.
Plot twist: you came here from the Rebuild Party. 🦁🇬🇧
Basically a better world.
I wish! Long live Mosley
Mosley did nothing wrong.
Mosley was right
But he indeed did nothing wrong.
Technically correct as Mosely did nothing substantial
@@theredtechnician True.
i mean you cant do anything wrong if you were never in power
What if Churchill wasn’t the prime minister?
That was the point of this video. Churchill didn't become prime minister of this timeline. Sorry if I'm being a little rude. I just love history.
Sarah Grimm Yah I love WW2 history but I meant in how Churchill was about never surrendering. What if it was someone else who gave up after the fall of France or accepted one of Hitlers many peace offers. I think Churchill new he could win the war if he could get the US in the war like WW1.
It would have been better off. Churchill was a drunkard and a warmonger, Germany had no quarrel with Britain specifically and even praised Britain as brothers. France and Britain could have been spaired had they just helped work out a deal with Poland and Germany instead of convincing Śmigły not to talk with the Germans and then the French going behind Germany's back to sign deals with the soviets.
Ultimately, it was this war that, although Britain "won", would cost Britain their empire, countless lives, and destroy the future of Europe, and it was allegedly all started to "save" a country (Poland) which they ended up letting the soviets conquer anyway, such a needless waste of European life.
To refine the question a bit, what if Neville Chamberlain didn’t die of cancer in 1940?
Why is there never a part two to any of your most interesting timelines?
He wants us the viewers to come up with our own conclusions on how we think this scenarios should end.
Looking modern day western European cities... something went horribly wrong. It´s not how it´s supposed to be.
May I suggest something?
- What if Juan Péron never rose to power or was removed from power?
- What if Jorge Videla never came to power or was removed from power?
- What if Augusto Pinochet never came to power in Chile?
It would be cool to see this happen. Been watching all the censored video's you made via VPN. Keep on rocking, Monsieur Z!
I am British and I would honestly love this if this happened but It didn’t I wish it could have but I know it will never happen unless time travel or different universes or dimensions
Nicely done. One of your best to date and worth the wait. That k you for expanding outward and looking down the road a little bit to the consequences of the changed events a little farther.
What if Stalingrad and Leningrad also North African front were fallen by Germany?
would probably be the same outcome
Even IF the Reds lost Stalingrad and Leningrad that wouldn't be enough. By 42 the Reich was desperate because they knew that if they took any longer the might of a continent was going to come crashing down upon them. All that would happen is that the war would last longer, Italy would fall to the Soviets due to Operation Husky not being possible and the Western Allies would probably get further into Europe.
Why would Russia sign peace just because they lost Moscow, they’d probably move the capital to Kazan and continue the fight
Got any source to back up that claim? Im too lazy to search for myself
If England sided with the Reich, as we were suppose to, then Russia wouldn't have stood a chance against the full might of Britain and Germany.
What an interesting idea for industries to elect representatives. I suppose in a way we have this through lobbyists and lobbying. However I somewhat like the idea of the direct representation and perhaps the limitation of those representatives to impact other "lanes"
Fascism is the only way
Can you do what if Elizabeth I had married
Or
What if Bhutan became an empire
Wym with "if Bhutan was an empire"? They're an empire. And I for one welcome our new Bhutanese Overlords.
We wouldn’t be in the 💩we are now
Hoi4 United Kingdom campaign, Kings Party Route: The Video
“Despite how poorly the strategy worked in the past” even though Germany forced Russia to surrender in 1918 in WW1
Yeah Germany is epic. You guys usually lose the war but only after taking on the entire world all at once. It is a good point though, Germany in ww2 did NOT want a war on two fronts, they tried hard to make a peace deal with Britain but Churchill the warmonger wasn't interested, Churchill just wanted to destroy Germany at all costs.
@@blackassasin175 Yk what The British were the bad guys not the Germans. They just wanted their lands back but the british couldnt have any of that.
@@Reinhard_Erlik The nazis were a corrupt regime, they were racist, wanted to wipe out a race, dominate the world, and kill anyone who doesn't agree with their intentions, and your telling me Britain is bad? Churchill did the right thing because he knew hitler was up to no good and would start a world-wide European war, and invade countries like there's no tomorrow. If you support nazi germany, and think they were the victim, there is something wrong with you. And if they really wanted their land, they wouldn't invade the soviet union with a peace treaty towards each other. You're lying out of your teeth, and fingers, and you know it.
@@blackassasin175 Churchill knew hitler had more intentions than "Re-claiming land," remember the eastern front?
this was based
We live in period
you do have to take into account that the entire basis and foundation of the mannhattan project was from the British tube alloys project. So without the alliance between the US and the British there would have been no reason for the British to hand over their research to the Americans like they did in real life. So the British would likely develop the nuke before the US simply because they were ahead in their research.
Steady as she goes? Nah;
A CHANGE IN COURSE!!!
I like your style. Good amount of information with minimal opinions. A good change from the usual WW2 commentator.
Oswald Mosley is good.
I mean, look at London now and you have your answer.
Sir Oswald Mosley: Supreme Gamer, prime minister of the Gamer Kingdom, and leader of the British Union of Gamers
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At first when I heard the voice I thought that this was AlternateHistoryHub
I think his proportional representation for professions is smart - it reminds me of the representation of guilds in City of London and also observed in Singapore.
A return to fascism is what the UK desperately needs.
What a deranged cunt, you are. We need less fascism not more.
Zyklon B fanboy ?
National focus complete: The kings party
1) What if the Library of Alexandria was never destroyed ?
2) What if the Aztecs and the Incas had dinosaurs to use in battle against the Europeans ?
3) What if the Brazilian Empire never fell ( this is a scenario for one of my books that I'm working on )
Hail Mosley!
What of Japan joined the Central powers in ww1
Da Red Gobbo It wouldn’t do much unless the US also joined the Central Powers.
@@Bluesonofman It would do though, Japan wouldn't ever pose a threat to USA, nor would the army take Manchuria.
Oswald was of the opinion of basically keeping Britain out of any wars, because he like many other old Victorians saw the empire as being ill. That’s what he was wanting to do, if Hitler took Poland he’d have done nothing much. But if France was next maybe he would have, balance of power is key for the empire at the time.
If Mosely came to power Northern Ireland would probably be given to Ireland as he saw it as Irish and he respected the IRA
It would have certainly secured better relatioms with Ireland
Mosley was the greatest Prime Minister that Britain never had.
NO TO FASCITS ! NO to Nazis
@@SunofYorkbut you support fascism
@@stequality If devoting a big piece of my time to eliminating fascists and Nazis is a fascist and Nazi activity, then you are right. However I have never wished to harm Jews or promote a one party state, so you are back in 1945 with your success rate. You will need to brush up your act if you are to make gauleiter
@@SunofYork not talking about ww2 era or 1930s Germany
@@stequality I am talking about the 1930s because today's Nazis/fascists are talking just the same.. 'blood and soil' and hating on the Jews, calling immigrants animals and vermin. etc.. We have heard it all before and seen it all before and I, and the hundreds of millions of 'Decents' will not let it happen again... Google 'Babi Yar wiki' and read it. They shot 33,370 men, women, girls boys and babies over 4 days
So basically the world is better off
Oswald was a true gamer
Policies that are good for the native British man?
8:22 this is unironically a great idea
You know what some of moseleys reforms don't seem half bad
why does this version of life sound better lol
Because you're a fascist.
What if Harold Godwinson won against William?
*Oswald Mosley has entered the chat*
when the first Harry Potter book was released JK Rowling was accused of having facist leanings due to Harry's lightning bolt scar being Mosley's political groups marker.