Thank you so much for your channel, dude, and for everything you post. It means a lot, for the average guy, to be able to get solid info on these diesels from the big 3. You run them in real-world work conditions, and you maintain them well. So when you give us the straight skinny, it comes from a better place of understanding the trucks reliability and performance. That's huge for us who are looking to buy one of these. Many of us probably expect this 80k truck to be the last truck they ever buy. I'm happy I can look at your channel for legit information on the big 3 and their current diesel engines in particular. Much appreciated sir.
@@Alexander-fr1kk In this case maybe, but it seems like this is ultimately an issue with the hydraulic lifter design of the new 6.7. I've heard of similar issues on their larger commercial motors (ISX?). The 22's have other horrible emissions issues Paul has explained like the EGR valve failing and taking out the ECU and also the DPF plugging well before its service life (possibly due to EGR failure halting regens).
I can tell you I'd Never buy a Ram and I have seen far to many Cummins engines fail(in one way or another). I see that Cummins is riding the "no competition" train in the bigger engines. The reputation with the 5.9 and 6.7 is small. Ford has sold more more 6.7 powerstrokes since 2011 than there are Cummins powered trucks since 1989. The quality on the surface of the Ram trucks is great at first, but the beauty wears pretty quick. I dont know one person that has stayed satisfied with the Ram truck they have purchased. Annoying shit always goes wrong, simple shit. I have yet to see an ISX make a million KM before a rebuild. The bus company I work for rebuilds the X12 AT 650K KM where the D13(Volvo) makes 900k or more before the rebuild. The previst buses are taller heavier and less aerodynamic and yet get better mileage day in and day out. But Cummins is "better" lmfao
Sad to see you having to leave Ram trucks. Hopefully Cummins has the issue taken care of an learned from it. Hope you have better luck with your powerstroke than I did.
Putting the hydraulic lifters in the 6.7 was a mistake, they have had all kinds of problems with them. The ones with flat tappets never had that issue.
My advice to anyone who operates a Cummins diesel is to install a by-pass oil filter (LF777, or equivalent) in conjunction with the standard full flow filter and service both at your oil change. I was a factory service rep for Cummins for 7 years and in sales for 24 years and at that time, 1970-2001, Cummins recommended a by-pass oil filter on all heavy duty engines. The 6.7L falls into that category IMO especially with EGR being used, that is the worst thing to ever happen to diesel engines.
Unfortunately that's the trade off with these newer diesel trucks. They have all the bells and whistles, gobs of horse power and torque, soft plush seats etc. All brands brag about all the power and everything else amazing about them but when I'm spending my hard earned money I want to hear about how reliable a vehicle is and how it WON'T blow up in 100k.........New trucks are just to complicated for me and why I'd prefer to buy anything 2007 or older. But that's just me!
The flat tappet and adjustable rockers worked to good Paul. So they had to fuck that up. I’m curious what the mileage is on your couple 2019s now. They’ve gotta be up past 300k.
Yes exactly what I said. LMAO we have been making well beyond 1500hp up to 3k on a flat tappet. If Ram was so worried about their 500hp lmao just dlc coat the darn tappets. Have owners gotten so lazy they can't use a feeler gauge anymore?
@@clifft7832 to date we’ve had more 2020+ power strokes fail, and way sooner, and no Cummins have failed. And all of them are utility trucks we don’t tow. But they are all 2 tons too.
My company is moving from GM and Powerstroke to ram and we’ve had nothing but lifters and recall issues on the rams. GM sucks due to engine breaks are horrible Powerstroke and Cummins are just about my go to still
At first it was mainly HO trucks because they’re mostly hotshot trucks that get high mileage quick. SO trucks are having the same lifter/pushrod issues creeping in now.
I really wanted to hear what you were saying about the problem and the repair or replace, but the mic/audio was bad, and the truck noise was too loud. I would also like to hear if you have experience with the lower output Cummins and it's transmission. Thanks.
31,000 miles on my 2022 dodge ram ho cummins early on had seals blow on transfer case, now low oil pressure warning once a year ago and again this week calling dealer
Making me nervous about my 22 ram i lost a transmission at 26,000 miles and sporadically having service exhaust system lights but dealership cant fix it. Never dreamed the motor would be a headache
You need a scan tool like the obdlink and an app to track your DPF soot percentage and regen status. You may be about to plug your DPF. Get out while you can.
This is very informative indeed and it pretty worrisome knowing that these Cummins have their Achilles heel… is this only on H.O. Cummins or is S.O. going to have this issue as well? I have 22 2500 and I’m worried about the life expectancy now…Great video!
Should be on all of the 5th gens. Cummins went from their solid flat tappet to hydraulic roller in 19 I believe. I understand why they did it, but also makes no sense to make a huge change like that. We have been running these flat tappets above and beyond 1500hp with no issues. Even with higher spring pressures they still wear just fine. I will stick with the tried and true older designs way too many bells and whistles to go wrong on the new 100k dollar trucks lol.
Do you think the problem is in the standard outpu Cummins engines or just the high output engines?On fence about getting a 3500 with standard output Cummins engine.
What happened though did the DPF clog up or what was the specific problem, I know you said one grenaded but should I not expect to get 4-5 hundred thousand miles on a 21 6.7 Cummins?
Cant wait to see a 2020+ duramax on the channel. 10 speed is much like the 23 ford. Ford trans runs very hot compared to GM 10 speed. Tuning is much different for sure not sure if that is because the GM cooling stack is oversized or what. I have heard ford 10 speed will run at 200+ even unloaded. The GM 10speed is happy around 140-160F... Keep it cool and it lasts longer right? IDK time will tell but both are great setups. Sad to see the cummins brand have these issues.
So I have a question for this ford transmission "running hotter". Has anyone looked into where ford takes their Temps compared to GM and dodge? My thought is that ford is reading Temps pre-cooler vs GM and dodge reading Temps post cooler. Maybe it's something to site when comparing.
From what I understand, ford uses a higher temperature t-stat for the transmission cooler. My 2019 10-speed f150 runs the transmission at 190-200 unloaded and 200-210 loaded. It's a bit hot for my liking, but no issues so far.
Hey Transmissions. I don’t see why you would need a 10 speed tranny unless you have a tractor trailer combo pulling loads. The 8 speed ZF is an excellent trans for the Hemi. That 8 speed could be beefed up Case & Components to handle Cummins. How many more speeds do you need in a light duty truck. I work in a truck shop and monthly we’re changing out trans on big trucks. Is it because the other guys have 10 speed transmissions.
@@josephpuchel6497 its about emissions actually if you think about it. Even 8 gears is not the best but is obviously slightly better than 6. Higher gear lower rpm, lower egts, and lower NOx levels. They have to do it or make the motor\emissions system more efficient. tl;dr - it comes down to emissions and the EPA requirements on ICE vehicles
@josephpuchel6497 I'm happy with the 10 speed and 3.5 ecoboost in my truck. It sounds like you're happy with your truck as well. Fantastic. Why do trucks with 10 speeds offend you so much?
The 6.7 has had issues with lifter failures and theres companies that offer solid roller lifer mods for the tsb i wish Cummins would retro fit warranty but that wont happen
Glad Dishman is doing great by you. I think what is going on is a lack of quality control at the supplier level. Companies are letting the customers complain to identify the failure areas. If your eight trucks were spread around the country and you only had one failure we could be seeing a different experience. TRX for background music is great. Especially going at speeds on those “Mexican” roads. Thank you for sharing and have a great day.
Then you sir are a shitty mechanic. There is zero difference between a rebuilt block and a new block. In fact some old hot rodders would say the old seasoned block is better. As long as the machine shop doing the boring and honing is good and you know how to use calipers and plasi gauge it should be fine. I have rebuilt my own 5.9 and a 6.7 still running great. And these aren't stock trucks.
@@faultless18 1. Transmission dipstick something or other, 2. Something to do with the tailgate latch alignment, 3. Grid heater relay, 4. ???? I forgot the last one. Dealership has stated since January and several return calls that “the parts are on order” despite the recalls stating “urgent!”
@@aaaron19 100% agree. Finally got an appointment this coming Thursday. Think I’m gonna inquire about deleting the grid heater all together rather than them changing the relay. I’ve heard bad stories about the grid heater bolt rotting, nut falling in the engine, and catastrophic failure.
So I’m Im in predicament where I like the f450, but know the Ram is the better work truck. The engine is far simpler to work on vs the powerstroke. Judging from what you said about the rod and lifter, could it be the hardening process they use to harden them? And if so, is it worth buying one knowing I’ll have to refresh the valve train? You can always build better with aftermarket than sometime stock comes. I want to place an order for a brand new truck soon and having a hard time seeing if I should wait for the f450 order bank to open or if I should go with the Ram.
I just dumped an early 6.7 F-450 and went back to a 4th gen Ram. The Ford started having exhaust system issues at 70k (manifold studs popping off) which caused a chain reaction of emissions nightmares including DPF plugging. Ok, stuff happens that you have to fix. Only problem is everything is so jam packed into that engine bay it's extremely difficult to get the downpipe properly aligned and sealed. The after market parts they used would not stop leaking. After waiting for Ford parts it took a dealer 3 tries to actually get that downpipe sealed properly. The truck was never right after that. Early or later 6.7 powerstroke is filled with tubes and plastic bits and everything is hiding under EGR and other emissions bits. Then there's the CP4 nightmare to deal with. On a good day the Ford did 125 miles per DPF regen, the ram does 700-1000. Open the hood of a Ram and you can look through all the empty space and identify all the parts of the engine from the starter to the turbo to the oil filter. I could probably replace the downpipe and turbo on a Saturday in my driveway. In the Ford you can't even see the manifolds or the turbo without a camera scope. I gave it a chance and still have PTSD from the repair bills. The Ram definitely tows significantly better in higher gears (the Ford's numbers are a lie 2011-14). Good luck on your decision. Seems like for a brand new truck the Ford could still be the safer bet. These modern trucks are risky.
@@wtbman yeah I’m not even too interested in the new ford f450. I’m leaning towards Ram. I did however look at a 2024 gmc dually, not fond of gmc, but it’s a lot less expensive.
Do you have the standard or HO Cummins? Don’t you mean the weight of the oil? I know with the new Cummins. It’s only 5w-40 and 10w-30 is the only oil weight you can use.
Makes me glad I still have my 5.9 2007, I keep the truck like new, but of course it doesn’t have all the new nicer options, I did at least highly upgrade the stereo…lol
unrelated question. on 2019 cummins would the diesel particulate filter code to replace a sensor cause other multiple codes such as codes that relate to the turbo out of nowhere a bunch of codes appeared at ram dealer and they are trying to sell me multiple repairs.. my experience not a bunch of parts fail simotaniously thank you inadvance for your expertise and response
lol Duramax has way too many moving parts. Plus they are way way too expensive to fix or rebuild. Duramax is a great motor, but they have plenty of issues. Like broken cranks coasting down the highway.
I personally stick with the 3rd gens. Sure they don't have 55 inch tv screens for a radio, they don't cool my drinks for me, or tickle my ass. They don't tell me if I am about to hit someone. But they start and run every damn time, and I can fix whatever might go wrong. Plus 800hp is way way more fun than a stock luxury truck.
Ram trucks has been on a downhill trend for several years now. Gm and ford have significantly outpaced them in the hd pickup world. I don’t understand why they’re letting it go the way it is. Their transmissions are flat out junk and always have been. Their axles still get death wobble. Their steering components still fail prematurely. Their interior plastic and electrical is still junk. And now Cummins (not surprisingly) has problems as well. I have a lot of experience in the heavy truck world and very few people care for the 15 liter Cummins
Do a Brunel hardness test on the parts that are failing and compare that to a earlier trucks parts. Might be just be bad materials that aren’t matched in hardness.
So basically when Cummins went to hydraulic lifters a few years ago they screwed the engines. Every time they "update" these legendary engines they make them less reliable.
I work for a dealership here in south Texas I have a Chevrolet gmc ram fiat ford all in the same strip huge dealership I traded my 22 ram 2500 after ticking and issues with the dam tranny I had lifter failure I was disappointed after buying it and trading in my old 7.3 I traded the ram and got a 1500 Rst 3.0 and my wife a Buick encore for those guys who have 18 6.7 boys those years are the Jems
I do not understand Cummins going with hydraulic lifters. They are a common source of premature failure in other engines, very expensive to repair, and valve checks on solid lifter Cummins every 100-150,000 is a very quick and easy job.
They could care less. The biggest problem is the dealership network. Here in Arizona, they are all worthless and you basically have to get a lawyer for any major repairs under warranty.
My 2022 H.O. at 38,000 miles needs new lifters.... all services at the dealership. Im going to replace it with something else, but not exactly sure where to go from here, as we've been buying only ram since 2004....
I was thinking Ford, but was highly considering a GM product. But based on your experience I guess I won’t. The local ford franchise service manager said they see very little ford super duty’s in for warranty work.
Lol, the Ford service guy saying they don't service many of the Ford diesels and don't have problems. What a load of BS! He's telling you what you want to hear.
The dealer in Ronan Mt wouldn't replace the turbo actuator in my dad's 17 80k mile Cummins. the paperwork it says it's not covered under warranty. but if the whole turbo fails it's covered....... he's got 130k and hasn't fixed it
Ronan motors is a joke. They have terrible customer service and they will do everything they can to get out of warranty and recall work. They have had my wife’s dodge dart for over a month for a simple catalytic converter recall and they keep giving me bs excuses on why they can’t get to it yet. Better off going to Missoula or Kalispell.
@@madeinmontana3009 that sounds about right My dad and grandma have bought many many vehicles through Ronan Dodge and they offered lifetime oil changes but when it changed hands they went away with it. I could see that in a large city but in a small town with local customer base that's probably something that you should not do
Don’t leave the Cummins. They will get it straightened out and I promise, the grass is never greener on the other side. Buy some 20’s and 21’s until it’s fixed.
I really hope they give us something good this January. Because I’m not buying new trucks for time being but I can only do it for so long. I’m holding off till then. Meanwhile testing the ford ho.
Your on Bruce heading into town onto arrgon. Am I right? Just shoot me a smiles face. Anyways I’m sorry to hear about your shitty dealing with the good old Cummins. I’m out of sandpit up north and live my 06’ 5.9er compounded towing beast that I bought and 300miles later Had to do a full long block and basically everything else since but I’m around 900whp and over 1300fr lbs. I had my class A for 20 years and driving transfers in the Bay Area so if you every have a opening for driver get at me. Love the TRX. Also I’m a Amsoil dealer and when I went from delo to the ams synthetic I gained 2 mpg. Good luck and Be safe out there.
@@bryanlewis8891 I know but, that tells you how bad Cummins is in a Dodge Ram Truck because Cummins used to make good engines whereas, DuraMax and Powerstroke is a lot better than Dodge Ram Cummins and my SI (gasoline) engine in a Honda Pilot which, is not as durable as a CI (diesel) is outlasting Cummins engines. 🙂
wish i had as good an experience. my one and only truck (of course a 22) went down for the aisin before 1000 miles and only 6 days old. maybe its because im canadian but i have had nothing but problems im 8 months since it went in im still waiting for my truck back. they finally got me in a rental 3 months in and it was a 1500 …cant run hotshot with one of these
Still waiting to get the cp4 recall as well as some other issues such as suspected sticking injectors, done on my 2019. Been waiting over a year now. Every dealer in a 500 mile radius keeps giving me the same runaround with parts availability, which i understand, however this will be the last ram I buy.
Is there any 5th gen you would buy? I have a friend with a 2019 that went through the recall that took forever. You've had failures with 2022. Another youtuber has said the 2023 seems to be "detuned" (maybe because of these reliability issues?), and is noticeably slower and/or less torquey. So, is there any good 5th gen?
@@zacd7094 CP4? I thought CP4 only came with the 2019 and 2020. 2021 should already returned to CP3 due to 2019 and 2020 having those issues when it was installed on that particular years.
@@j.l.salayao8055 I’ve got a 2020, there was a recall on the cp the replaced it with the better one which we that is. I went to buy a 22 the dealer told me they are junkers, already on need of work before they can be sold. If you have a 20 or before your probably in good shape
Pardon my ignorance but is this issue just showing up in the high output or standard as well? Just picked up a ‘22 2500 with 22k miles. Now I’m nervous 😬. Been a Cummins fan for a long time.
I just picked up a 22 Ram 2500 with 18k miles. Keep in touch and let me know the issues. What do you think about the particulate filter sensor recall? I haven’t done that yet. So many recalls.
Something is up with these diesels lately. The second Toyota decides to become a player in the segment, it’s over for the big 3. Hot shotters are looking for dependability. Something that’s not there anymore.
The problem lies in that Cummins won't touch anything that Dodge/Ram installs. They simply sell the motors to Dodge and they fix them if they break. Still can't understand why they had to "FIX" something that wasn't broken. Millions and millions of flat tappet trucks running strong. Worst thing that happens is a wiped cam lobe and that is only if you run high pressure springs and high lift cam. A pain in the ass to fix but still only a half day and you are back on the road.
@@joshuaquilliam2887Considering Dodge has had absolutely zero to do with the production of RAM’s for 14 years, no, Cummins do not sell engines to Dodge.🙄
Because that adds far too much complexity for near zero gain. DOHC is really great for a high revving engine or where space is limited. Cummins will rev to 3200, fuel cut at 3500.
Can’t we get a Inline 6 diesel, 400hp, 1000 pounds of torque, 9 speed “real” Allison transmission with two low gears. Like 3rd gear is the daily drive “first gear” / tow haul gets two lower gears so the real 1st and 2nd. Reduce EPA emissions crap. (We want them gone, but hey, Health and Safety gotta be met somewhere) … and can it please be made by real engineers, not bean counters. And a minimum 1700 payload capacity for 2500 series with all the bells and whistles…
@@wizard_of_poz4413 4th Gen and everything before 18 and below are way more reliable than the new trucks in general. I drive a 2015 Longhorn Megacab a couple times a week (Long Distance). Its so reliable compared to all my friends who have fords. I would reccomand you to keep that truck for life if you can.
WOW the drone is horrible.. worse than a diesel truck.. hard to hear you at times.. but love to hear the ponies RUMP.. :) had to follow along in the transcripts. even transcripts had issues.
Yep compared lifters between Cummins, Powerstroke and Duramax yep Cummins lifters are designed poorly in three areas. 1oil port way too small, 2 roller incased in a bushing not a bearing and gets starved of oil bushing wears out and roller pin is black from burning then sloppyness from worn out bushing makes roller pound the snot out of cam and valve train. 3 there's a set screw that can back out destroying the lifter and cam. ITS THE FREAKING HYDRAULIC LIFTERS FAILING MAKING THE TICKING NOISES IF YOUR HEREING TICKING IS CAUSED BY FAILING LIFTERS AND IT OILING ISSUES THAT ALSO STARVES THE PUSHRODS AND THE CAM LOBES. THE LIFTERS ARE JUNK.
Hey I’ve always purchased numerous trucks. They all want your business until you have a claim. Out of all the dealerships I dealt with 1 maybe 2 will help you out. I check out dealerships with rating above average repair facilities especially when it’s a diesel.
My 2019 is setting at freemont dodge in Wyoming ,where they refused to repair.Still under warranty with a recall.Get a lawyer if you drive a stellantis,F ram!
I dont understand y ford and chevy use these bullshit gears i think thats y they are having alot of transmission issues that puts alot more stress on the transmission. Its a diesel there made to work they need 3.73 or 4.10
Well my guess is that Ford and Chevy use a 10 speed so they can have their cake and eat it too. My 48re 04 has 3.73 and it works good with stock tires, my 05 has aftermarket 4.56 with 35s. If I had more gears I would go to a 3.54 or so but I don't so higher rpm at cruise is the tradeoff.
Thank you so much for your channel, dude, and for everything you post. It means a lot, for the average guy, to be able to get solid info on these diesels from the big 3. You run them in real-world work conditions, and you maintain them well. So when you give us the straight skinny, it comes from a better place of understanding the trucks reliability and performance. That's huge for us who are looking to buy one of these. Many of us probably expect this 80k truck to be the last truck they ever buy. I'm happy I can look at your channel for legit information on the big 3 and their current diesel engines in particular. Much appreciated sir.
Totally understand your position. Never thought I'd see the day when the Cummins is the reason NOT to buy a truck. Good grief.
I’m a GM guy but it’s not Cummins fault… it’s the government choking these diesel engines!!!
@@Alexander-fr1kk In this case maybe, but it seems like this is ultimately an issue with the hydraulic lifter design of the new 6.7. I've heard of similar issues on their larger commercial motors (ISX?). The 22's have other horrible emissions issues Paul has explained like the EGR valve failing and taking out the ECU and also the DPF plugging well before its service life (possibly due to EGR failure halting regens).
I can tell you I'd Never buy a Ram and I have seen far to many Cummins engines fail(in one way or another). I see that Cummins is riding the "no competition" train in the bigger engines. The reputation with the 5.9 and 6.7 is small. Ford has sold more more 6.7 powerstrokes since 2011 than there are Cummins powered trucks since 1989. The quality on the surface of the Ram trucks is great at first, but the beauty wears pretty quick. I dont know one person that has stayed satisfied with the Ram truck they have purchased. Annoying shit always goes wrong, simple shit. I have yet to see an ISX make a million KM before a rebuild. The bus company I work for rebuilds the X12 AT 650K KM where the D13(Volvo) makes 900k or more before the rebuild. The previst buses are taller heavier and less aerodynamic and yet get better mileage day in and day out. But Cummins is "better" lmfao
They fucked me I had to put a 2018 bottom end in
Sounds like Cummins needs to ditch the hydraulic roller set up and go back to a solid roller setup.
You mean flat tappet
The more i listen to this channel, the more i love my 18 3500
Love my 18 also
Me to 2018 ! But i have had x2 abs hcu unit failures and wiring harness rubbed through on cab floor truck has 32k Pulls good love truck!
Absolutely
Same here, 2018 RAM 2500 with solid valve lifters and breathing easy.
+1 for low mile 2017 3500, running like new with 1000 mile DPF regens
No one else gonna comment on how impressive the traction that TRX got on such wet conditions 🤟👍
Right... my 98 would have sent me ass first into a ditch
That's why they won't let you put it into 2wd
Always in 4WD
Yup, I got rid of my 22 as fast as I could and built a 12V Fummins. I’m done with new trucks.
Sad to see you having to leave Ram trucks. Hopefully Cummins has the issue taken care of an learned from it. Hope you have better luck with your powerstroke than I did.
Skip to 10:20 everything before that is rambling.
Putting the hydraulic lifters in the 6.7 was a mistake, they have had all kinds of problems with them. The ones with flat tappets never had that issue.
Jeez we have 16 most 2022 and zero issues, have a few 2023 and absolutely love them. Hopefully ya get back in the rams
I haven't heard of people having issues with them either. I have a '19 and have not had a single issue. I guess he had a series of bad luck.
Statistically impossible to have half your fleet have 'bad luck' like this...
@@sierracatshit, the way he was driving, who knows how the trucks mentioned are maintained? 😂
That’s good to hear. Whats some of the highest mileage trucks in your fleet. I have a 8-22 build. Was scared after seeing these videos. Thanks
Have had great luck out of 21s and have a 23 with no issues. Thankful I don’t have a 22. Hate to see your troubles man.
They all have same lifters.
My advice to anyone who operates a Cummins diesel is to install a by-pass oil filter (LF777, or equivalent) in conjunction with the standard full flow filter and service both at your oil change. I was a factory service rep for Cummins for 7 years and in sales for 24 years and at that time, 1970-2001, Cummins recommended a by-pass oil filter on all heavy duty engines. The 6.7L falls into that category IMO especially with EGR being used, that is the worst thing to ever happen to diesel engines.
Unfortunately that's the trade off with these newer diesel trucks. They have all the bells and whistles, gobs of horse power and torque, soft plush seats etc. All brands brag about all the power and everything else amazing about them but when I'm spending my hard earned money I want to hear about how reliable a vehicle is and how it WON'T blow up in 100k.........New trucks are just to complicated for me and why I'd prefer to buy anything 2007 or older. But that's just me!
The flat tappet and adjustable rockers worked to good Paul. So they had to fuck that up. I’m curious what the mileage is on your couple 2019s now. They’ve gotta be up past 300k.
Yes exactly what I said. LMAO we have been making well beyond 1500hp up to 3k on a flat tappet. If Ram was so worried about their 500hp lmao just dlc coat the darn tappets. Have owners gotten so lazy they can't use a feeler gauge anymore?
Do you have a video that explains the cost of running a hotshot business compared to a semi truck?
As soon as the power stroke needs the cab removed to complete a simple repair you would have wish you bought 8 more dem grenades.
The Powerstroke is the runaway class leader.
@@clifft7832 then why are 98% of all hot shot trucks Ram? Know what you’re talking about before talking.
@@clifft7832 to date we’ve had more 2020+ power strokes fail, and way sooner, and no Cummins have failed. And all of them are utility trucks we don’t tow. But they are all 2 tons too.
My company is moving from GM and Powerstroke to ram and we’ve had nothing but lifters and recall issues on the rams. GM sucks due to engine breaks are horrible Powerstroke and Cummins are just about my go to still
@@Average991 what years ? My 21 and 22 are fine, we don’t have anything older that I’m aware of anyway
If problems keep happening on the 22 HO. I’m sure they will have to come out with a Recall or Bulletin.
I have an 22 that I hotshot with daily 125k perfect. But I also have the standard the HOs seems to have issues
What’s the issues on the HO?
At first it was mainly HO trucks because they’re mostly hotshot trucks that get high mileage quick. SO trucks are having the same lifter/pushrod issues creeping in now.
159K on my 2022, it just shit the bed
I really wanted to hear what you were saying about the problem and the repair or replace, but the mic/audio was bad, and the truck noise was too loud. I would also like to hear if you have experience with the lower output Cummins and it's transmission. Thanks.
31,000 miles on my 2022 dodge ram ho cummins early on had seals blow on transfer case, now low oil pressure warning once a year ago and again this week calling dealer
Making me nervous about my 22 ram i lost a transmission at 26,000 miles and sporadically having service exhaust system lights but dealership cant fix it. Never dreamed the motor would be a headache
You need a scan tool like the obdlink and an app to track your DPF soot percentage and regen status. You may be about to plug your DPF. Get out while you can.
This is very informative indeed and it pretty worrisome knowing that these Cummins have their Achilles heel… is this only on H.O. Cummins or is S.O. going to have this issue as well? I have 22 2500 and I’m worried about the life expectancy now…Great video!
Should be on all of the 5th gens. Cummins went from their solid flat tappet to hydraulic roller in 19 I believe. I understand why they did it, but also makes no sense to make a huge change like that. We have been running these flat tappets above and beyond 1500hp with no issues. Even with higher spring pressures they still wear just fine. I will stick with the tried and true older designs way too many bells and whistles to go wrong on the new 100k dollar trucks lol.
Do you think the problem is in the standard outpu Cummins engines or just the high output engines?On fence about getting a 3500 with standard output Cummins engine.
Idk for a fact. But all my experience comes from ho engines
We have had 0 problems with our non HO 6.7 units!
This makes me feel better 2022 3500 Limited SRW standard Cummins. Good thing I got the 7yr 125k warranty.
Any news on this?
What happened though did the DPF clog up or what was the specific problem, I know you said one grenaded but should I not expect to get 4-5 hundred thousand miles on a 21 6.7 Cummins?
Cant wait to see a 2020+ duramax on the channel. 10 speed is much like the 23 ford. Ford trans runs very hot compared to GM 10 speed. Tuning is much different for sure not sure if that is because the GM cooling stack is oversized or what. I have heard ford 10 speed will run at 200+ even unloaded. The GM 10speed is happy around 140-160F... Keep it cool and it lasts longer right? IDK time will tell but both are great setups. Sad to see the cummins brand have these issues.
So I have a question for this ford transmission "running hotter". Has anyone looked into where ford takes their Temps compared to GM and dodge? My thought is that ford is reading Temps pre-cooler vs GM and dodge reading Temps post cooler. Maybe it's something to site when comparing.
From what I understand, ford uses a higher temperature t-stat for the transmission cooler. My 2019 10-speed f150 runs the transmission at 190-200 unloaded and 200-210 loaded. It's a bit hot for my liking, but no issues so far.
Hey Transmissions. I don’t see why you would need a 10 speed tranny unless you have a tractor trailer combo pulling loads. The 8 speed ZF is an excellent trans for the Hemi. That 8 speed could be beefed up Case & Components to handle Cummins. How many more speeds do you need in a light duty truck. I work in a truck shop and monthly we’re changing out trans on big trucks. Is it because the other guys have 10 speed transmissions.
@@josephpuchel6497 its about emissions actually if you think about it. Even 8 gears is not the best but is obviously slightly better than 6. Higher gear lower rpm, lower egts, and lower NOx levels. They have to do it or make the motor\emissions system more efficient.
tl;dr - it comes down to emissions and the EPA requirements on ICE vehicles
@josephpuchel6497 I'm happy with the 10 speed and 3.5 ecoboost in my truck. It sounds like you're happy with your truck as well. Fantastic.
Why do trucks with 10 speeds offend you so much?
The 6.7 has had issues with lifter failures and theres companies that offer solid roller lifer mods for the tsb i wish Cummins would retro fit warranty but that wont happen
Glad Dishman is doing great by you. I think what is going on is a lack of quality control at the supplier level. Companies are letting the customers complain to identify the failure areas. If your eight trucks were spread around the country and you only had one failure we could be seeing a different experience. TRX for background music is great. Especially going at speeds on those “Mexican” roads. Thank you for sharing and have a great day.
In my opinion, rebuilding is like rebuilding a wrecked car. Yea it looks good, and might perform ok, but you’ll always know the issue was there.
Then you sir are a shitty mechanic. There is zero difference between a rebuilt block and a new block. In fact some old hot rodders would say the old seasoned block is better. As long as the machine shop doing the boring and honing is good and you know how to use calipers and plasi gauge it should be fine. I have rebuilt my own 5.9 and a 6.7 still running great. And these aren't stock trucks.
My 19’ had the lifters and camshaft replaced, how’s your truck holding up that had parts replaced not engine swapped?
I have had (4) recalls on my 2022 since 1/23. I am STILL waiting “for parts” 🙄
What’s the recalls?
@@faultless18 1. Transmission dipstick something or other, 2. Something to do with the tailgate latch alignment, 3. Grid heater relay, 4. ???? I forgot the last one. Dealership has stated since January and several return calls that “the parts are on order” despite the recalls stating “urgent!”
@@HardKnocks101got mine done same day, your dealer sucks
@@aaaron19 100% agree. Finally got an appointment this coming Thursday. Think I’m gonna inquire about deleting the grid heater all together rather than them changing the relay. I’ve heard bad stories about the grid heater bolt rotting, nut falling in the engine, and catastrophic failure.
@@HardKnocks101 you should do a full weight reduction. Best thing to do
That TRX is insane. I got to drive one and dang made me happy.
Looking at a 22 at the dealer. Would you say to not get one for any reason?
So I’m Im in predicament where I like the f450, but know the Ram is the better work truck. The engine is far simpler to work on vs the powerstroke. Judging from what you said about the rod and lifter, could it be the hardening process they use to harden them? And if so, is it worth buying one knowing I’ll have to refresh the valve train? You can always build better with aftermarket than sometime stock comes. I want to place an order for a brand new truck soon and having a hard time seeing if I should wait for the f450 order bank to open or if I should go with the Ram.
I just dumped an early 6.7 F-450 and went back to a 4th gen Ram. The Ford started having exhaust system issues at 70k (manifold studs popping off) which caused a chain reaction of emissions nightmares including DPF plugging. Ok, stuff happens that you have to fix. Only problem is everything is so jam packed into that engine bay it's extremely difficult to get the downpipe properly aligned and sealed. The after market parts they used would not stop leaking. After waiting for Ford parts it took a dealer 3 tries to actually get that downpipe sealed properly. The truck was never right after that. Early or later 6.7 powerstroke is filled with tubes and plastic bits and everything is hiding under EGR and other emissions bits. Then there's the CP4 nightmare to deal with. On a good day the Ford did 125 miles per DPF regen, the ram does 700-1000. Open the hood of a Ram and you can look through all the empty space and identify all the parts of the engine from the starter to the turbo to the oil filter. I could probably replace the downpipe and turbo on a Saturday in my driveway. In the Ford you can't even see the manifolds or the turbo without a camera scope. I gave it a chance and still have PTSD from the repair bills. The Ram definitely tows significantly better in higher gears (the Ford's numbers are a lie 2011-14). Good luck on your decision. Seems like for a brand new truck the Ford could still be the safer bet. These modern trucks are risky.
@@wtbman yeah I’m not even too interested in the new ford f450. I’m leaning towards Ram. I did however look at a 2024 gmc dually, not fond of gmc, but it’s a lot less expensive.
Buy the powerstroke
That’s why I don’t buy rams !!! You’re getting ready replace the hemi also
@@danwilliams8771 I ordered a 2023 ram dually. The powerstroke is great and all, just not what I want as a hauling power plant
have a lot of 22 way over 100k miles never had issues it’s the oil u use
What oil do you believe cures this? I use royal purple
What oil you use?
Do you have the standard or HO Cummins?
Don’t you mean the weight of the oil?
I know with the new Cummins. It’s only 5w-40 and 10w-30 is the only oil weight you can use.
With hydrologic lifters, you should be using 5w-40.
@@diamondhead203 10w-30
Makes me glad I still have my 5.9 2007, I keep the truck like new, but of course it doesn’t have all the new nicer options, I did at least highly upgrade the stereo…lol
unrelated question. on 2019 cummins would the diesel particulate filter code to replace a sensor cause other multiple codes such as codes that relate to the turbo out of nowhere a bunch of codes appeared at ram dealer and they are trying to sell me multiple repairs.. my experience not a bunch of parts fail simotaniously thank you inadvance for your expertise and response
Why not give the new duramaxes a go? Or at least keep an open mind and buy a single one one and see how well it holds up?
No thanks I’ll stick with my Cummins, never had an issue.
Duramax is a maintenance nightmare compared to the inline. Good for the average person but 100k mi/yr. It's not good at a cost standpoint.
lol Duramax has way too many moving parts. Plus they are way way too expensive to fix or rebuild. Duramax is a great motor, but they have plenty of issues. Like broken cranks coasting down the highway.
Have you looked at doing the wagler lifter conversion?
So glad I got rid of my 22! Did not want to risk this headache
The aisin transmissions have major problems too. In the cab and chassis models.
I’m so glad I bought my 2018 and bullet proofed it. I wouldn’t have a Ram built after that.
I personally stick with the 3rd gens. Sure they don't have 55 inch tv screens for a radio, they don't cool my drinks for me, or tickle my ass. They don't tell me if I am about to hit someone. But they start and run every damn time, and I can fix whatever might go wrong. Plus 800hp is way way more fun than a stock luxury truck.
Ram trucks has been on a downhill trend for several years now. Gm and ford have significantly outpaced them in the hd pickup world.
I don’t understand why they’re letting it go the way it is. Their transmissions are flat out junk and always have been. Their axles still get death wobble. Their steering components still fail prematurely. Their interior plastic and electrical is still junk. And now Cummins (not surprisingly) has problems as well. I have a lot of experience in the heavy truck world and very few people care for the 15 liter Cummins
I have a 2018, about to lighten it up a little bit
Was going to to that to x2 of our 2018 also!
I'm scared! I've got a 22 that's approaching 60k. Hope they come up with a solution sooner than later
What are the build dates of the 22s that you are having issues with?
Do a Brunel hardness test on the parts that are failing and compare that to a earlier trucks parts. Might be just be bad materials that aren’t matched in hardness.
So basically when Cummins went to hydraulic lifters a few years ago they screwed the engines. Every time they "update" these legendary engines they make them less reliable.
I work for a dealership here in south Texas I have a Chevrolet gmc ram fiat ford all in the same strip huge dealership I traded my 22 ram 2500 after ticking and issues with the dam tranny I had lifter failure I was disappointed after buying it and trading in my old 7.3 I traded the ram and got a 1500 Rst 3.0 and my wife a Buick encore for those guys who have 18 6.7 boys those years are the Jems
I do not understand Cummins going with hydraulic lifters. They are a common source of premature failure in other engines, very expensive to repair, and valve checks on solid lifter Cummins every 100-150,000 is a very quick and easy job.
What oil weight and type are you running?
I wonder how Ram treated the non-fleet customers.
They wouldn’t even replace the factory brake controller in my 21 3500 Limited, so I can only imagine.
They could care less. The biggest problem is the dealership network. Here in Arizona, they are all worthless and you basically have to get a lawyer for any major repairs under warranty.
Took them 4 months to get my new engine in
Hey I’ve been there. They want your business but don’t want to see you back for repairs. I hate to say some dealerships don’t have quality mechanics .
My 2022 H.O. at 38,000 miles needs new lifters.... all services at the dealership. Im going to replace it with something else, but not exactly sure where to go from here, as we've been buying only ram since 2004....
Well I work at GM and its a similar story. The cams wipe on the 6.6 duramax and have fun waiting on that.
I was thinking Ford, but was highly considering a GM product. But based on your experience I guess I won’t.
The local ford franchise service manager said they see very little ford super duty’s in for warranty work.
Lol, the Ford service guy saying they don't service many of the Ford diesels and don't have problems. What a load of BS! He's telling you what you want to hear.
The dealer in Ronan Mt wouldn't replace the turbo actuator in my dad's 17 80k mile Cummins. the paperwork it says it's not covered under warranty. but if the whole turbo fails it's covered....... he's got 130k and hasn't fixed it
Ronan motors is a joke. They have terrible customer service and they will do everything they can to get out of warranty and recall work. They have had my wife’s dodge dart for over a month for a simple catalytic converter recall and they keep giving me bs excuses on why they can’t get to it yet. Better off going to Missoula or Kalispell.
@@madeinmontana3009 that sounds about right My dad and grandma have bought many many vehicles through Ronan Dodge and they offered lifetime oil changes but when it changed hands they went away with it. I could see that in a large city but in a small town with local customer base that's probably something that you should not do
Don’t leave the Cummins. They will get it straightened out and I promise, the grass is never greener on the other side. Buy some 20’s and 21’s until it’s fixed.
I really hope they give us something good this January. Because I’m not buying new trucks for time being but I can only do it for so long. I’m holding off till then. Meanwhile testing the ford ho.
@Ricky more tears eh
Definitely...could always be worse, like the newer Powerstrokes.
@@pddieselpower im waiting for something new in 2024 as well.
@@pddieselpower 🌈
I have a lifter ticking on my 2022 and they just keep saying it’s normal hopefully ram fixes the issue soon
Same
Your on Bruce heading into town onto arrgon. Am I right? Just shoot me a smiles face. Anyways I’m sorry to hear about your shitty dealing with the good old Cummins. I’m out of sandpit up north and live my 06’ 5.9er compounded towing beast that I bought and 300miles later
Had to do a full long block and basically everything else since but I’m around 900whp and over 1300fr lbs. I had my class A for 20 years and driving transfers in the Bay Area so if you every have a opening for driver get at me. Love the TRX. Also I’m a Amsoil dealer and when I went from delo to the ams synthetic I gained 2 mpg. Good luck and Be safe out there.
I have a 21 non H.O. and tow heavy regularly. Are you noticing this pushrod issue with 21’s in your fleet?
I have the same truck. How.many miles do u have on your 21?
I have a 2020 ram 2500 90k no issues so far. I use 5w40 rotella full synthetic oil change every 8-10k miles
2018 Ram 3500 dually mega cab. Motor 1 done at 53,000 miles. New engine has 55,000 on it and it failed this week. About to head to ram dealership.
My 2023 Ram 3500 just got shipped. Should I not buy it?
I have a 09 Honda Pilot that is 14-years old with 108K miles that still has the original exhaust system. I am amazed on how durable the vehicle is. 🙂
Put a trailer behind it!
That's an apples to oranges comparison.
If I am buying a diesel truck dually I will get Chevrolet/GMC DuraMax or Ford Powerstroke diesel before I buy Dodge Ram Cummins TDI. 🙂
@@bryanlewis8891 I know but, that tells you how bad Cummins is in a Dodge Ram Truck because Cummins used to make good engines whereas, DuraMax and Powerstroke is a lot better than Dodge Ram Cummins and my SI (gasoline) engine in a Honda Pilot which, is not as durable as a CI (diesel) is outlasting Cummins engines. 🙂
@@frederickwoodard9551just stay away from the 5th gens and they’re probably the best you can get
wish i had as good an experience. my one and only truck (of course a 22) went down for the aisin before 1000 miles and only 6 days old. maybe its because im canadian but i have had nothing but problems im 8 months since it went in im still waiting for my truck back. they finally got me in a rental 3 months in and it was a 1500 …cant run hotshot with one of these
Were the trucks that failed all 2- 22 builds?
Still waiting to get the cp4 recall as well as some other issues such as suspected sticking injectors, done on my 2019. Been waiting over a year now. Every dealer in a 500 mile radius keeps giving me the same runaround with parts availability, which i understand, however this will be the last ram I buy.
The 6.7 hasn't been out long enough to deserve the legendary status of the early ones.
15+ years is longer than the 12 valves. What are you talking about
Are talking about the new 6.7 that came out in 2019 MY? Going to hydraulic lifters was why I jumped on a 2018 leftover instead of 2019. Glad I did.
@@unknown_truckers you can have those noisy rattling 12 valves. The 6.7 in this configuration started 4 years ago, and it has been questionable..
@@unknown_truckers the 12 v was made way before dodge used them it was originally an agricultural
Engine first
The more i hear about the newest generation of cummins 6.7...the more i wanna keep my 2017
Are the issues with high output engine, regular Cummins or both?
Is there any 5th gen you would buy? I have a friend with a 2019 that went through the recall that took forever. You've had failures with 2022. Another youtuber has said the 2023 seems to be "detuned" (maybe because of these reliability issues?), and is noticeably slower and/or less torquey. So, is there any good 5th gen?
I’ve got a 20 with 76k miles. I bought it from a lady she had the cp4 replaced. So far I’ve put 1000 miles on it with no issues. It’s a beast
The 21's are the best
@@zacd7094 CP4? I thought CP4 only came with the 2019 and 2020. 2021 should already returned to CP3 due to 2019 and 2020 having those issues when it was installed on that particular years.
@@j.l.salayao8055 I’ve got a 2020, there was a recall on the cp the replaced it with the better one which we that is. I went to buy a 22 the dealer told me they are junkers, already on need of work before they can be sold. If you have a 20 or before your probably in good shape
Wish you could backcharge your downtime to stellantis.
You can, but you'd have to sue and there's a lot tied up in that. Time and money may not be worth it, plus it may ruin his dealership relationship.
Pardon my ignorance but is this issue just showing up in the high output or standard as well? Just picked up a ‘22 2500 with 22k miles. Now I’m nervous 😬. Been a Cummins fan for a long time.
That 68rfe is what is making wondering after watching this shit makes me not want a ram
I just picked up a 22 Ram 2500 with 18k miles. Keep in touch and let me know the issues. What do you think about the particulate filter sensor recall? I haven’t done that yet. So many recalls.
@@ponyxpress3 my new ‘23 2500 got the tick at 6,000 miles 🤬
I sold my Charger Hellcat last year, I miss that blower whine lol. A TRX is next on the list.
Something is up with these diesels lately. The second Toyota decides to become a player in the segment, it’s over for the big 3. Hot shotters are looking for dependability. Something that’s not there anymore.
Better not go research how the new Tundras are doing 🤦♂️
Ya, just replace your cam and lifters and your good!!! Cummins should have a recall and do just that!!!
Why is the question. Does Cummins not have any recalls or statements about this?
The problem lies in that Cummins won't touch anything that Dodge/Ram installs. They simply sell the motors to Dodge and they fix them if they break. Still can't understand why they had to "FIX" something that wasn't broken. Millions and millions of flat tappet trucks running strong. Worst thing that happens is a wiped cam lobe and that is only if you run high pressure springs and high lift cam. A pain in the ass to fix but still only a half day and you are back on the road.
@@joshuaquilliam2887Considering Dodge has had absolutely zero to do with the production of RAM’s for 14 years, no, Cummins do not sell engines to Dodge.🙄
You must just have bad luck, I’ll never own anything else but a Cummins!
Last place is good enough for you?
That's crazy. South texas if theres an issue they get it fixed no question asked.
Can I lease on with you?? My dispatcher sucks! $2/ mile isn’t cutting it!
Kinda wild, I'm watching this and I'm like man that looks familiar, I just live over other side of the state line!
Don’t have any issues with mine 👍
How many miles?
Good info- nice to see ya drop the hammer on the toy! Thanks for the experience
Given that my '05 5.9 is torn apart with half a million miles. I'll never buy a brand new truck especially a diesel.
Like the longer videos!! 👍
03 cummins here and very happy 2019 ,2021,2022, 2021 the best one.
I wonder if this is the dreaded grid heater bolt failure.
No
Dude accidentally broke the sound barrier
Why is Cummins not going to a overhead camshaft? 🙂
Because that adds far too much complexity for near zero gain. DOHC is really great for a high revving engine or where space is limited. Cummins will rev to 3200, fuel cut at 3500.
Can’t we get a Inline 6 diesel, 400hp, 1000 pounds of torque, 9 speed “real” Allison transmission with two low gears. Like 3rd gear is the daily drive “first gear” / tow haul gets two lower gears so the real 1st and 2nd. Reduce EPA emissions crap. (We want them gone, but hey, Health and Safety gotta be met somewhere) … and can it please be made by real engineers, not bean counters. And a minimum 1700 payload capacity for 2500 series with all the bells and whistles…
Replace the 22s with 19-21s or 13-18s?
If I could buy new. I would buy 2018s all day
@@pddieselpower haha so I better keep my 18 till the wheels fall off?
@@wizard_of_poz4413 4th Gen and everything before 18 and below are way more reliable than the new trucks in general. I drive a 2015 Longhorn Megacab a couple times a week (Long Distance). Its so reliable compared to all my friends who have fords. I would reccomand you to keep that truck for life if you can.
@@Beall_ fingers crossed I don't get t boned or something
@@Beall_ My problem is they rot away wish i could keep forever i would still be driving my 1992 3500 5.9!
WOW the drone is horrible.. worse than a diesel truck.. hard to hear you at times.. but love to hear the ponies RUMP.. :) had to follow along in the transcripts. even transcripts had issues.
You gotta let them pipes sing sometime! 😂😎
Yep compared lifters between Cummins, Powerstroke and Duramax yep Cummins lifters are designed poorly in three areas. 1oil port way too small, 2 roller incased in a bushing not a bearing and gets starved of oil bushing wears out and roller pin is black from burning then sloppyness from worn out bushing makes roller pound the snot out of cam and valve train. 3 there's a set screw that can back out destroying the lifter and cam. ITS THE FREAKING HYDRAULIC LIFTERS FAILING MAKING THE TICKING NOISES IF YOUR HEREING TICKING IS CAUSED BY FAILING LIFTERS AND IT OILING ISSUES THAT ALSO STARVES THE PUSHRODS AND THE CAM LOBES. THE LIFTERS ARE JUNK.
We just purchased 40ish 2022 ram 3500 6.7 cummins.... ohh boy here we go
What type of work?
@@2500mike mobile mechanic work, trucks outfitted with full enclosed service bodies
Shit, lemme know if any crap out of you.
@reubenmiller5515 so far all is good except for the recalls on the trucks
Hey I’ve always purchased numerous trucks. They all want your business until you have a claim. Out of all the dealerships I dealt with 1 maybe 2 will help you out. I check out dealerships with rating above average repair facilities especially when it’s a diesel.
We need to get a few more cops on the north side....
My 2019 is setting at freemont dodge in Wyoming ,where they refused to repair.Still under warranty with a recall.Get a lawyer if you drive a stellantis,F ram!
WOW. Only 100,000 miles. They use to go 500,000
I hope my 21 makes it you have me nervous!
21’s are good.
I just bought a 2022 ram 3500 and I see this video 🥲😂 I pray I don’t get no problems
I dont understand y ford and chevy use these bullshit gears i think thats y they are having alot of transmission issues that puts alot more stress on the transmission. Its a diesel there made to work they need 3.73 or 4.10
Well my guess is that Ford and Chevy use a 10 speed so they can have their cake and eat it too. My 48re 04 has 3.73 and it works good with stock tires, my 05 has aftermarket 4.56 with 35s. If I had more gears I would go to a 3.54 or so but I don't so higher rpm at cruise is the tradeoff.
Are those fields of Canola in bloom already?
Honestly. Idk
@PD Diesel Power here in MB the canola is barely coming out of the ground.
@@joshpodolsky7740 same what I thought here from swan river mb
I have a 2015 3500. 108,000+ miles. Not impressed.