Audi Q4 e-tron 45 Quattro charging test
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Never thought I'd watch a video of batteries charging 😅
even better at 2x speed, really has auction-style vibes 😁
Id 5 started below 10%!?
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Nice Car the Audi Q4 e-tron ...love it !!
Very interesting that VW & Audi despite sharing the MEB platform uses very different charging curve profiles. In North America a lot of people just get the ID.4 for the lower price but I went for the Q4 e-tron mostly due to its nicer interior and design. Very happy with my decision.
The Enyaq and ID7 are imho the only MEB cars with nice interior so far.
Hi Bjørn, you just got a recomenndation from Harry’s Garage youtube channel🙌🏻👍🏻
Yo I just watched Harry's video and came here to comment. . One of Bjorn's videos was also in MKBHD's video of the apple vision pro.
@@danielpenov In which video? There are 3 videos.
@@tnlfnl6456 The second one called "Using Apple vision pro" at 20:34
The second one where he uses it at 20m34s. The videos are in his Subscriptions list, so he seems to be a subscriber
@@danielpenov Well caught!
The reference is very small, but it is there! Good eye!
About Battery charging speed affecting battery degradation, according to Kyle's last info on the refreshed 2025 Porsche Tycan with its rocket like charging speed of over 330KW for considerably longer than Lucid's, the engineers removed the old preserve battery charge rate option (reduces max charge rate) as they found no difference in battery degradation with or with use of that battery preservation feature! Maybe Audi is also from the same school of thought resulting in this improved charging performance!
Well I wonder why Tesla doesn't update the C ratings on higher charge state? I mean we dont 100% know how the impact is on age + high C ratings. There are Tesla with 200.000km and 8 years with only 15% degredation. Wonder how the taycan degredation will be with the same stats.
@@kenion2166 maybe difference in cell chemistry, afaik the more cobalt the better charging performance but also the higher price. since Tesla is cheaper, they might have cut down on cobalt (not talking LFP batteries ofc)
@@davidstud3952 Tesla basicly had to cut down the cobalt since back in the days when they sold only the modelS, media was talking extrem critical about cobalt in EV's. Strange these days nobody gives a fuck anymore :D
basically best in class
Porsche Taycan facelift 2024, gets 320kw till 60%🤨
for the low low price of only >100k€ ;)
400volt vs 800volt
@@Nicoztrike Model Y RWD from Berlin does 170kW til 46% (and is 400V)
Kw doesnt matter. Only C-rating matters
@@patrickfavier4310 yes . But the Taycan and e-tron uses different platforms and technologies. The Taycan is on the J1 platform and the q4 e-tron is on the MEB
I presume the ambient temperatures of these tests were not quite the same? So then was the Q4 pre-conditioned (manually) and if so, for how long?
Lesson: Don't open the door while charging - otherwise your charging speed goes down...Björn is great commenting it like a horse race, which is kinda is 😆
The bug happens also if you press the brake to wake up the car while Charging.
No, he tried that in the 1000km challenge, it didn't bug, only when he opened the door🙂
Hi Bjørn, have you got a comment on Harry's garage latest view on ev's?
No
2:16 I don’t understand: after 17 minutes of charging, Q4 charged 41,4 kWh and Polestar 2 charged 43,3 kWh. However, Q4 has 60% SOC and P2 only 59%. How is this possible? The only reason I find is because Q4 has a 77 kWh of useable battery and P2 has 79 kWh… right?
No, these are not "charged" kWh. It's how many kWh was delivered from the charger. How many kWh that goes into the battery is a different story after charging losses, battery heating and cooling.
@@bjornnyland Thanks.
Damm… what a great car … 😮
Same battery chemistry in these cars, NMC811?
MEB Platform cars currently use LG Chem E78 pouch cells, which are NCM 712 cells.
@@IntelSnakeOil-SalesmanE78 suggests 78kwh?
@@silviuguseila2552 no, its 78 Ah and each cell is 3.65v. which is after calculating: 78 Ah x 3.65v x 24 cells [in 1 module] x 12 modules [ 77/82 kwh battery has 12 modules] = 80.64 kWh. This is valid for the first gen MEB 77 kwh batteries, I didnt look up if the "4.0+ MEBS" gets the same sells from LG or that SKI is also involved in different batteries in europe. China got CATL, USA gets SKI for usa made cars. and if the Ah or voltages are slightly higher or lower [wouldnt expect it tho capacity wise]]
Damn solid performance now on MEB cars, this with the improved infotainment HW/SW will be great 🎉
Why is Polestar 2 at 90% after receiving 70kWh, but Q4 is at 94% with 70 kWh if they have the same battery size?
Cause some cars have not linear SOC for some fucking reason
Different buffer sizes? E.g. 82kWh total capacity but 70kWh usable in one car and 75kWh in another.
cooling requirements. so that ionity screen is not always what the car takes. what you see on the 2 below screen is what the car takes, the charger screens are what the car is requesting in TOTAL. so it can be 75kw for the battery and 5kw for battery cooling. with obdscanner apps you would see 75 what the battery takes but chargerscreen will say 80 kw.
Like Bjørn said in the comment above, the cars don't have the same charging losses, maybe the polestar uses more energy for cooling the battery🙂
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Hey @bjornnyland, have you heard anything about future software updates to the MEB cars from 2021-2023? There have been no updates since early last year, and there have been some unclear messages on whether there will be more support. Would appreciate it if someone that has some connections in the industry tried asking VW Group some difficult questions.
Hey, for VW I can say: if you're on ID software < 3.1, go to the workshop to get 3.2.
If you already have 3.1 or 3.2 you'll get OTA 3.2.1 in the next few weeks, if everything goes to plan. This update is meant to prepare for the coming 3.7 update, that's being finalized right now according to VW.
Those updates don't come with major new features, but mainly bring bug fixes and performance improvements.
Whether there'll be more updates or even new features for MEB cars with the old hardware (factory software < 4.0) is unknown at this point.
Those cars will definitely not get ID software >= 4.0 since it requires the new hardware.
I don't understand why people expect to get software updates, because if the car is working and it doesn't have the hardware for new features, why should they update your car, I mean there's no reason for that, I have the Cupra born, and all the features that it had, when I bought it works, and I have no problems with the car, so I can not see why they should update it, because there's no reason, only if they can make it more efficient or what ever, then it will make sense, but as I understand it, they can't, so why do you want the updates, I guess you bought the car that you wanted and with the equipment that you wanted right? 🙂
@@jacobsmedegaard5426 yeah, I kinda agree with you on that. I'm on software 3.2 and for the most part I'm happy with it. But I still think there's room for improvement and I also get why people want updates, since VW advertised their ID cars with OTA capabilities.
@@jacobsmedegaard5426 To start with because it has hardware that supports new features but are locked in software. Using ODB you can get preheating working, although it isn't practical without official updates. Second, because I expect better support for my car than my phone, which was 0,5% of the price. Third, because anything connected to the internet should get data security updates for at least 5 years.
@@erazer2602 yes, the interface could be better, for example like in the new ID cars, did like there's a dedicated "button" for seat hearing and steering wheel hearing, but what I want the most from the new cars, is the preheating, the more powerful motor and the better ecu, but that's hardware, so there's not much to do about that, but what I mentioned with the software part, that is something they could do something about, but it's fine as it is, and I bought it like that, but sure, if they made it more user friendly, then I would be happy about it, but I don't count on it 🙂👍🏻
Quality costs!
Bjorn you got a big shout out form Harry's Garage - UA-cam in the UK for your technical reviews of EVs ua-cam.com/video/nZysvgm2_Aw/v-deo.html
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I'm back in a diesel after 4yrs running both EV & PHEV. What needs to change to get me to go back?
Always funny to see someone impressed by something not so impressive. An Ev6 is at 130 at 77%. Even when it coldgates a bit it performs.
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Wow to have a 400v system is really painfully slow to charge, so lucky that I have a Ioniq5, wouldn't have time for a 400v system 😅
must be why the new Macan divides the battery in all of those chargers, your 800v system amounts to nothing 🤣
@@ALCLCFVIS 😂
800V is not the reason why it charges faster, Ampere is not the limit here more likely the C rating of each cell.The Cell Chemistry could be the main factor here, for high C ratings you need a good stabiliser like cobalt. Hyundai uses 80/10/10 ~10% cobalt while Tesla uses on long range < 3% and standard range (LFP) 0%.
When all countries will be without electricity, what will you in EU do ?
Norway is not in EU
We will sell them some electricity, maybe?
It it not about EU, it is about situacion, that you end with ele. net not functioning. What will you do ? All substations destroyed ?
Not possibel. Dist. net not functioning ? What will you do ?
Why would all countries in the world be without electricity?