because he's comparing it to the Mercedes Professional G Ute. Cost is above $110k.So...simple maths, 70 series costs circa $70k, Mercedes cost circa $110k, 110-70=40. There we have it! he saves $40,000. That really wasn't that hard & guess what, i didn't even have to use a calculator :)
Get a JEEP wrangler Andrew, problem solved. Approach and departure angles done already, also lift and easy to kit out. No need for stretching/lengthening and similar price range. You can not lose, now hooooz a Jammee basdard then.
Andrew suffers the 1st world dilemma of tons of choices and the income to do near anything you like. I suggest we all think back to our early 20's when we were broke and stupid. We did things with little money. We had fun. We kept it simple. We made lifelong friends. We never had too many choices to agonize over.
Spot on. I have really enjoyed Andrew's videos but this is just hand wringing over choices that are well out of most folks' budget. $80K for stripper Toyota truck, pleeese. 😂 That's insane. More videos of actually doing the thing, not endlessly preparing for it
Andrew, you should have picked something other than a 70 series. I think it would have been more interesting to see a G-Wagon, Y62 Patrol or one of the big American trucks because there arent as many people setting them up for overlanding. You'll have different cosiderations like diesel vs petrol and solid axles vs independent. Doing another 70 series feels much of the sameness.
I know what the "thing" is about the 70 series,, it's because it's a tank, it's a fire and forget thing, durable, reliable, everytime, anytime. It's Toyota, it just works well!
Once again thank you for sharing your thought process.. a lot of people just like to say that you are ranting but what you are doing is you are teaching us about how you start with your goals and then translate that into an actual build. I'm excited for your new build and the fact that you are designing a vehicle that we wouldn't be able to build here in the states doesn't matter because you are teaching transferable skills -- at least to those of your viewers who take the time to pay attention. Keep up the great work professor!!!
i would go the 6x6 with extend cab area making the the 70 series 2-4 foot longer over standard cab or modify the cab area and make it a trailer conversion.. I think a 6x6 with a body fill cut using the cab space of the crew cab and the whole cab area of the troopy would likely be the best option reason why there is supported co-op because they typically stick within spec of toyota..
If you are planning of putting some kind of camper at the back of single cab aren't you having access to the camper from the driver's seat? Couldn't you put the gear inside the camper and access it as if you were accessing something you left of the rear passenger seats of a double cabin? I do not get this point at al. Isn't the camper at the back going to be connecting with the cabin?
if you were looking at a chop, like the 200, did you consider doing an extra cab instead of a duel cab. i.e. space for some gear, a water tank, drink fridge etc. but a couple of hundred mm shorter than a dual allowing the tray to come further over the rear axle?
I wouldn't be surpised if Andrew goes back to a troopy. With a pop/tilt top no doubt. And a well thought out living/working area behind the front row so he can work/edit in comfort. Upgraded alternator and giant Lithium auxiliary battery too.
James Mac-Price Merc’s are just not as reliable as Toyota’s. In Australia’s outback/rural areas the Land cruiser is king. Parts for a Merc wouldn’t be readily available and no doubt would be very expensive.
Interesting choice... Not sure about the huge gap between front and rear axles. What about a single cab 70 series converted to a space cab? Lets be honest I doubt you'll need all that room in the cab of the 79.
Great video Andrew. I do have concerns about the turning circle doing your head in. Furthermore if you're going for a GVM upgrade, how will the engine cope with all that weight? Will it not be underpowered? I feel like you're stretching the limits of what the 70 series can offer. You may not have needed an Iveco Daily's payload as you "don't need to live out of it" but why not "underutilise" the Iveco? It comes in dual-cab with the payload squarely on the back axle and doesn't need any chassis or axle work! I hope all the work you put into it won't result in an inferior vehicle to the Iveco Daily. Why not have a lightweight Daily rather than a maxed out cruiser?
It was nice that you considered a Patriot Camper super tourer and you got to see our 6x6 b4 we did. We have our own camper(slide-on) that we have available to be bolted directly onto the tray as you saw it. All we have to do is remove the half canopy that usually sits behind the spare tyre rack. I must admit that Patriot provided a lot of what we wanted in a 79 dual cab and not cutting a 200 was for me a waste of 1/3 of a vehicle. I know putting a Jmacx 6x6 conversion ticked a lot of boxes as well but the weight carrying capacity is a bonus too.Our final product delivers to us what is a two way bet as we can tow our camper as it has its own trailer and leave it behind anywhere setup and still do day trips away from camp or we can remove the camper from the tray and leave it setup on legs(braced) and act as a dual cab trayback returning whenever and reconnecting as a single unit. I will watch what your final product ends as with interest and you never know might run into somewhere out there in the outback. I will agree with you that a single cab chassis is to restrictive for the reasons you stated no space.
Hi Andrew. I enjoyed this video. However, i don't understand how the 200 series was eliminated. You don't have to use patriot. There are companies like Creative Conversions that could convert it to an extended cab chassis. Once the vehicle is converted you take over and build the rest yourself. Certainly will cost more but surely you then have the perfect foundation. Comfort, off road capability and payload. Interested in your thoughts. Thanks.
Huge cost and inconvenience for a coke and camera! I'm usually a big fan of your choices, Andrew, but I believe this stretched vehicle may stretch your temper when completed. The cons for this length vehicle far outweigh the pros. As a single cab chassis driver myself, I know you can fit a lot into the smaller space. Can I suggest putting more of your proven design skills into refitting a single cab with a purpose built fridge and perhaps a designer camera rack. This seems a far better option than an oversized dual cab!
Sorry Andrew G300 has 2080 kg payload before you put a body on the chassis. Not 4 tonne. 4490 GVM 2410 Tare weight 2080 payload (as a cab/chassis) minus body weight = payload after body fitted Payload is what you can carry I like your comment “all about access” that’s so true Multilayering of gear is a pain in the backside (Rubiks cube camping.) I don’t agree that Toyota should build them only in a longer wheelbase. They’re designed for carrying 4 or 5 people and some gear. Not one guy and a large camper. Maybe the option of two wheelbases would be good. If they only built them longer, they’d be heavier on the front axle when not loaded. Every specification is always a compromise. They build them for many applications. You’ll solve some problems and create some more. Ramp over angle and turning circle for a start. I think you should just keep your troopy or build another one. Good luck with your build!!!
hi Andrew yesss, that's it - stretch it :-) I have the same "love" when it comes to Overland Vehicles. My decision was also a Toyota 70 Series DC. It's a HZJ79 with the famous 1HZ 6Zyl. Motor - not directly from Toyota as they do not Import them in Europe. But you can get them via Dubai but need some modification like a DPF. Finding a Cabine took some time, I had also a long List with must have's and don’t want anymore …. for example cold feet or damp and cold Clothes in the morning - so I came to a cabine you also recognised (min. 3:38 in your Video) … it was one of my best choices I've ever did. I always thought when you in earlier Videos where talking about a nice and clean room for editing and living - my cabine would fit your Needs as well :-) I'm very curious how your DreamCar will look like! Hans from Trans-Geo.com
Master Ruseman he just makes videos to sell what he calls “his creations” that he bought from companies and add price because the car was “famous” on UA-cam 😅😅😅😅
After I bought the Alucab 270 awning that you speak about in one of your previous videos, my wife banned me from watching any more of your videos. She says every time I watch one of your vids, money leaves the account 😁😁😁.
Getting 3 more seats all that space wasted and having to stretch the chassis just to carry inside a camera and a can of coke is madness! There are solutions to have access from the back window of the cabin to a storage in the camper. Large enough for cameras, bottles, etc. and accessible from both the cabin and the camper.
No question about it, we are very limited with the trucks/SUV's selection there are available here in North America. Also hard to get the DIESEL engines and manual transmissions have virtually disappeared. It would be nice to have the LANCRUISER 70 series available here as well as the MERCEDES G-WAGON PROFESIONAL. Hopefully they'll make them available SOON! Congrats Andrew! It will be an epic vehicle build! I'll be looking forward for these series. You are doing a great job with your channel.
I would highly recommend you look at Mits alloy in Newcastle NSW if you’re going with a alloy tray or canopy Andrew. Just had my F250 done there and as I compare it to the norweld it’s far superior. Cheers Ty.
Andrew, are you stuck in a rut with Toyota? I know the market is compressing for fuller size trucks and SUVs but isn't it time to get the comfort and move into the off roader with trailer or camper setup? A shorter rig without the weight of the camper is more fuel efficient easier to maneuver into the tighter parts of the trail while the trailer is not connected and having the trailer means more fuel and water capacities for even longer trips. The trailer would not be a taxing on the off roader because you avoid the tougher sections while towing and return each night after a day of exploring without the trailer attached. This would create a longer trip time but it would provide for even more photo/video opportunities during the trip. Just a suggestion.
That's my thoughts exactly and is exactly what I do in my land rover, I can't see the sense in getting rid of that troopy really, and I can see regret coming
Firstly, Toyota is on a whole other planet in thinking what customers want vs what customers actually want. That will never change. I'm surprised the 79 has remained in Toyota's lineup and not faded out in exchange for another Prius variant. Secondly, I'm a little disappointed you're going with the 79 again. Yes it's perfect, we know that. How about picking something that's totally unexpected and a bit clumsy and show us what you can do with it with all the skills and techniques you've aquired? Yes it won't be perfect, but will be a fun challenge. Sometimes u just gotta do best with what you got.
Have you watched the Black truck in action or Jase Andrews Back in Black 79 from All4 Adventure, the only mistake I think Andrew is making here and only can base it off cost is not going with a 4495 GVM Jmacx system which is probably the best out there especially considering the custom canopy build he is putting on the rear, that really surprised me, the company seems light on details on there website as well, also Jmacx system is more than just an extension it is built around supporting thst extension properly, diffs housing, axles and panhards and radius arms and being the canopy is a live in style rather than live out style that seems to me a major oversight.
Lol rear wheel steering. Well I guess I can hold my head up with the purchase of my long wheel base Nissan Frontier here in the US. Been trying to decide between turning the Frontier or my 1994 Chevy Suburban K2500 6.5 Diesel into an overlander. Oh the turning radius on my Frontier absolutely Sucks so I imagine the stretched landy is going to enjoy the same fate, but I still love my truck. Have Used it for work and play every day since 2013 and it's still going strong with 280,000 miles on it. Hauls a heck of a load In the bed or towing really well too. Had a 2001 Toyota Tundra 4.7 TRD Limited before which was a great truck as well but I gotta say the Frontier has been just as good if not better. At least for a guy that could never dream of affording a land cruiser.
Pete M Well prob depends on who you choose, to do the extension and what solutions they have! but from what I can see with std conversions you can keep the stock tank as is, it just depends on the solution for the extension, I am really surprised by Andrews choice for quite a few reasons, but then he doesn’t talk about those and may cover them in a later vid. But Superior or Jmacx imo would have been my choices, I like Jmacx because imo they have the biggest GVM upgrade for the 79, 4495kg all states approved, its a proper conversion! not a cut and weld and bracket, plus they have a proper track correction solution not a fudge, future proofing the vehicle esp considering what Andrew wants to custom build on top of it, this company he has chosen the track correction doesn’t impress me at all, if you are gonna do something like this to me do it right, cheap when you are investing the money for this anyway doesn’t seem like a good plan to me, there are many options just with those 2 companies alone re budget, but the GvM upgrade legal in all states with a true track correction eg diff, axles upgrade, panhard rods, radius arms and links, brakes handbrake and driveshaft and more, option built in for a long range tank, which he will want as well, best departure angle on a 79 I have seen because the rear is completely cut off and replaced with a complete rear end it’s impressive. better way better than Toyota’s rear chassis, Superior have a clean solution as well and best axles in the business. check out those companies to learn more, good info on both. But so many options.Another thing with these options is wheel size and lift options, up to 35” and 4” lift so lots of scope, not that Andrew would want 4” lift I suspect but the scope is there without messing up the geometry. When you mess with one thing you need to beef up or match the other areas, an extension done right will beef up the chassis hence the GVM upgrade, remember the base of the vehicle is engineered around its current GVM and then still not overlanding, so the other components upgrade imo become important too.
Great video Andrew. I enjoy your enthusiasm and passion. You never add anything to your builds that don’t have a purpose or several purposes. Looking forward to following the build. I know you will end up with a great overlander. All the best.
You Show us your Idea about it could be the perfecto Land Cruiser 79 but did you tough about center vehicle off road angles?... Thanks for your videos, excellent content, chers from Colombia South America.
Get a 79 and doing it yourself you right there is something about the 70 series,watching your builds i done mine and i i’m very happy ....thanks to you!,,
Disappointed it's not a Jimny. :D Not convinced you save money with a LC over the G Wagon Professional, once you spec the LC up to not quite match the G, it's just as expensive. But the single cab thing, I get that.
Andrew, just as sugestion, I drove a Dodge M886 truck for some years as a mobile workshop and camping vehicle. As it was designed as a military ambulance, it has greate insulation and space in the back, it has access to the back directly from the cab, and a lot of room in the cab itself, even being a single cab truck. It was converted from its original 318ci petrol engine to a GM 6.2L diesel and 33 inch BfGoodrich MT tires. It was great off roading, good highway speed, and not that bad fuel economy. Give it a look, may be you can get some ideas. Hope its not to late. Best wishes with your build and seeing forward to hear from it!
Jmacx 4495 GVM Coil Conversion. Nice ride and flex on coils GVM upgrade, plenty of safety margin for weight and max allowed on car licence. 300mm wheel base extension Or are multi drive making a setup to match this? Will be interesting to see what camper setup you come up with to take advantage of the extra wight limits. Something along the lines of a pop top with a double bed over the cab and rest of dining/kitchen/toilet/shower on the tray area. So many available designs out there however never quite exactly what you would want. Would be interesting if you did your own full custom build with the one piece insulated composite panels and internal fit out to your overland/film making requirements.
Mate. Looking forward to seeing this next build happen given your current ride is spot on . Big thanks for doing what you do also , its a highlight of my week . Cheers
With all due respect Andrew i disagree with you. The 79 series is designed perfect for its intended purpose. If your purpose exceeds the chosen vehicles' purpose then you've chosen the wrong vehicle. You once said this in one of your videos. It's much better to just buy the vehicle that is designed and engineered from factory for what you want. But that's the point isn't it? That's why so many 70 series owners modify their vehicles. Because they can't NOT get behind the wheel of one. It's a special kind of love that you (and i) have experienced. I own a 79 series dual cab GXL and the only thing i have modified is extend the gear stick like you did on your troopy by 2 inches. Which is hardly a modification. I have an alloy full sized canopy bolted onto the factory alloy tray and even with stock leaf springs it sits well. Lightweight is the key. And it's so comfortable with the weight on the back now. I will never ever modify anything else on my 79. Not even the stock tyre size. Because i will only make it worse. I am of course excited to follow your build of the new Landcruiser 79. I know you will have a lot of fun building it. And yes, you will dearly miss your 78 series troop carrier! Cheers mate and keep up the fantastic videos!
I recall the test drives of the dual cab round the time you came to Australia and met with Rhon. then handed it back for the troopy. Fixing that infamous toyota wheel track again must be delightful every time you buy a new landcruiser might as well extended it while you're there.
Just saw you today cruising along Yeagarup beach! I saw the the green troopy and the max trax on the side and thought.....surely not. Double take when I realised it was the one and only! Hope you enjoyed your time down that neck of the woods. My goodness was it blowing a gale though. Would have needed more like a dead lion than a dead cat if you were getting audio there today!
Hey Andrew. Why not do a modest cab extension on a single cab and leave the wheelbase as is? You'd have space to stow your stuff and still decent handling?
Why not install a lazy axle to an existing duel cab 70 series? You can up the payload without all of the other headaches that come with extending a wheelbase on a vehicle.
Widen the rear axle so same track Auto option Rear coil springs instead of leaf They'd be the perfect 4wd My issue is at their price you have to pay a fortune then sort all that yourself
I still believe the previous generation HiAce 4x4 conversion. Not too big, no body changes required, still has an excellent turning circle and reliable.
Hello I am a professor from Karachi, Pakistan. I have watched your videos and really feel happy to write that your presentation is always excellent. Have you been a teacher ? Your communication skills and methodology are extremely appreciable. Regards
Is the super long wheel base going to harm the off road utility?? I know you’re reluctant to change the body but a super cab or cut down the body so it only has thin rear access doors and storage that is reachable from the drivers seat might work too. Then only a mild wheelbase extension.
I love the direction and thinking of your next build. If you havent already, you should look at a Four Wheel Camper Flatbed model to put on a Norweld tray! It is a super well designed and functional camper, with tons of benefits including getting all of the weight in front of the rear axle and as low as possible! I have that setup here in the US and have spent over 600 nights in it so far.
Considered a 1500 ram? Also patriot campers has a secondary business PCOR that makes just the Supertourer trays. Would be great to see a 300mm extended 79 with a PCOR tray on it. (PCOR makes a 300mm extended 79 tray off the shelf)
Waffle on, waffle on, waffle on. I have found the best way to watch Andrew’s videos now is on mute, skipping ahead by 10 seconds at a time to get the gist of pictures etc and then watch the last 2 minutes for the summary.
Why not look into a jmacx kit? You get one of the biggest gvm upgrades you can on a 79 + a chassis extension + a coil rear set up and axle track correction in one hit. You get your load carrying capacity and comfort.
Perfect truck, I would have one of those. Luv the Norweld Tray and canopy. But I am not very tall and I would never be able to reach half the stuff in the canopy.. Have you considered the height thing?
I have a 130 defender and had an idea to stretch it to 177". six door with the 110 high cap tub to have it where i may take my whole family with me as well as my weekend toys in the back. Axle placement is critical, if you are to extend the rear axle it should be either in the middle or 30% inwards from the rear bumper puttin it in either the 50% or 60% of the rear tub. this way it carries the extra load and still offers you decent turning radius. My 130 has a crappy turning radius stock, so extending it to a 177" would make it near impossible to do a three point turn on city streets. something else you should consider.
You currently have space to work, where will you work in the 79 with a canopy? If the answer is a slide on type of arrangement, then how will you deal with the extra height? Many questions Andrew and very exciting because I'm sure you have dealt with all these and a whole lot I haven't considered. Looking forward to the next instalment.
Can't wait to see the finished product Andrew. Interesting you kept the original length, please discuss your thought processes given its a great opportunity to modify tray length to suit any special equipment. Also did you consider the Merc Sprinter 4x4?
A bit off subject, but can you tell me what watch you wear, is it a pre ceramic Rolex Submariner? Why did you choose that watch? They are great timepieces, but did you ever consider something else?
Andrew, I'm catching up on your channel, I've been away for too long. But I would just like to say. What it seems to me you really want is a 79-series dual cab with a multi-drive 6x6 chassis extension conversion with the troop carrier rear body welded on to the back of the dual cab body.
It’s a shame the troopy had to go, I love the colour of the troopy and I hope you stick with it on the new 79 dual cab also, all the best with the new build looking forward to the new videos of it
With the single cab setup you could have direct access from your seat to storage through a hatch to the camper where the rear window would have been in the cab. Just a thought. Cheers.
Nice evaluation and thoughts. But I think the solution is the Iveco Daily 4x4. I know you have already built this 79 DCab and driven it with you wife and also have compared with the Troopy. I’m convinced, your perfect tourer is the iveco. I I’ve completely different needs. I’m waiting for the Grenadier
Thanks for sharing your personal thoughts in a pleasant and clever way. It's not easy to do at all. You're a very good storyteller! If by any means you have a version of your build with the steering wheel on the "good" side (LHD), I'll be interested in a low cost version! Haha! Cheers from Marseille, France
Hard to fault a 79 Series. We loved them in Africa...too bad we can’t get them in the US. I think Toyota is missing out on a great business opportunity... Look forward to the build!
Hard to fault? Are you kidding? There's more faults on that poorly designed, badly equipped & over priced pile of garbage than you can poke a stick at.
Bob have you driven one? where do you start.... for 80k you get Ply door panels wrapped with vinyl, 2 shitty speakers in the dash, centre console that so low you can’t even lean on it, average seats and almost no NVH. A 90mm difference in rear wheel track, leaf under suspension with as much flex as a chopping board, a clutch that can border line hold factory torque levels. Air conditioning and cruise control is still an option on a gxl. The dual cab standard has a terrible wheel base that just becomes sketchy when heavily loaded, especially with the standard wheel track. Literally the only positive I can think about is that nice diesel V8 up the front which is no ruined by a DPF you can’t legally remove. My father in law has one and it 140k invested in it and it has no chassis mods, coils or portals or anything crazy. They are built for the farm and I can’t understand why people are so obsessed with them
Interesting choice of modification,I wonder what the maneuverability will be like being such a long wheel base?.This will be a good series and good to see it in action.
@4xoverland Can we add a bit of Rear Wheel Steering for when it gets tight? Congrats sir, on the final decision. Lookin forward to seeing the build and journey along with it.
Travelling around Africa is my oldest dream. Really like the channel. Maybe one day you will be building car for me. My choice would be an extended cab pickup any time. Who knows. :-) All the best.
The All4Adventure fellas have a dual cab 79 with the 300mm chassis extension. I think it might have been Creative Conversions that did it for them, it looks and performs great! Excited to see the way yours turns out.
"Why don't I spend way less money and buy a 70series?" Didn't think I would here those words in my life.
because he's comparing it to the Mercedes Professional G Ute. Cost is above $110k.So...simple maths, 70 series costs circa $70k, Mercedes cost circa $110k, 110-70=40. There we have it! he saves $40,000. That really wasn't that hard & guess what, i didn't even have to use a calculator :)
@@cyclemoto8744 *woosh*
Interestingly I don't think there is actually much price difference once you spec a 70 series up to where a G professional starts for offroad spec
Matt Forbes - Agree... not to mention if you look back at that Troopy build, had to widen the track, fighting with Toyota over breaks etc. etc.
@@mattimeo18 Not sure which "specs" you're referring to. Can you elaborate?
Get a JEEP wrangler Andrew, problem solved. Approach and departure angles done already, also lift and easy to kit out. No need for stretching/lengthening and similar price range. You can not lose, now hooooz a Jammee basdard then.
Andrew suffers the 1st world dilemma of tons of choices and the income to do near anything you like. I suggest we all think back to our early 20's when we were broke and stupid. We did things with little money. We had fun. We kept it simple. We made lifelong friends. We never had too many choices to agonize over.
Spot on. I have really enjoyed Andrew's videos but this is just hand wringing over choices that are well out of most folks' budget. $80K for stripper Toyota truck, pleeese. 😂 That's insane. More videos of actually doing the thing, not endlessly preparing for it
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Andrew, you should have picked something other than a 70 series. I think it would have been more interesting to see a G-Wagon, Y62 Patrol or one of the big American trucks because there arent as many people setting them up for overlanding. You'll have different cosiderations like diesel vs petrol and solid axles vs independent. Doing another 70 series feels much of the sameness.
I know what the "thing" is about the 70 series,, it's because it's a tank, it's a fire and forget thing, durable, reliable, everytime, anytime. It's Toyota, it just works well!
You'll end up with the turning circle of the exxon valdez
Waterworld is on right now , he just climbed onto the Valdez
Solved rhat in the 90s for the 130 landy. Rear steering!
@@mattluszczak8095 Toyota also with the megacruiser. long agoo, THIS is the best toyota !!!
Once again thank you for sharing your thought process.. a lot of people just like to say that you are ranting but what you are doing is you are teaching us about how you start with your goals and then translate that into an actual build. I'm excited for your new build and the fact that you are designing a vehicle that we wouldn't be able to build here in the states doesn't matter because you are teaching transferable skills -- at least to those of your viewers who take the time to pay attention. Keep up the great work professor!!!
i would go the 6x6 with extend cab area making the the 70 series 2-4 foot longer over standard cab or modify the cab area and make it a trailer conversion..
I think a 6x6 with a body fill cut using the cab space of the crew cab and the whole cab area of the troopy would likely be the best option
reason why there is supported co-op because they typically stick within spec of toyota..
If you are planning of putting some kind of camper at the back of single cab aren't you having access to the camper from the driver's seat? Couldn't you put the gear inside the camper and access it as if you were accessing something you left of the rear passenger seats of a double cabin? I do not get this point at al. Isn't the camper at the back going to be connecting with the cabin?
if you were looking at a chop, like the 200, did you consider doing an extra cab instead of a duel cab. i.e. space for some gear, a water tank, drink fridge etc. but a couple of hundred mm shorter than a dual allowing the tray to come further over the rear axle?
You'll be back in a troopy within two years :)
Agree... just what i was going to comment on ✔
So agreed. #toobigtotakeoffroad
I wouldn't be surpised if Andrew goes back to a troopy. With a pop/tilt top no doubt. And a well thought out living/working area behind the front row so he can work/edit in comfort. Upgraded alternator and giant Lithium auxiliary battery too.
I still don't know why the Merc 4x4 hasn't been considered. Check them out on Instagram, some solid builds capable of the tracks Andrew goes on.
James Mac-Price Merc’s are just not as reliable as Toyota’s.
In Australia’s outback/rural areas the Land cruiser is king.
Parts for a Merc wouldn’t be readily available and no doubt would be very expensive.
Interesting choice... Not sure about the huge gap between front and rear axles. What about a single cab 70 series converted to a space cab? Lets be honest I doubt you'll need all that room in the cab of the 79.
Get a space cab/extra cab- you can put a heap of stuff behind the seats, and you still have a decent chassis area to work with.
He’s full on, very passionate, that’s why we all watch. Keep up the good work.
Great video Andrew.
I do have concerns about the turning circle doing your head in. Furthermore if you're going for a GVM upgrade, how will the engine cope with all that weight? Will it not be underpowered?
I feel like you're stretching the limits of what the 70 series can offer. You may not have needed an Iveco Daily's payload as you "don't need to live out of it" but why not "underutilise" the Iveco? It comes in dual-cab with the payload squarely on the back axle and doesn't need any chassis or axle work! I hope all the work you put into it won't result in an inferior vehicle to the Iveco Daily.
Why not have a lightweight Daily rather than a maxed out cruiser?
I hope u put coils in it when u extend the chassis
It was nice that you considered a Patriot Camper super tourer and you got to see our 6x6 b4 we did. We have our own camper(slide-on) that we have available to be bolted directly onto the tray as you saw it. All we have to do is remove the half canopy that usually sits behind the spare tyre rack. I must admit that Patriot provided a lot of what we wanted in a 79 dual cab and not cutting a 200 was for me a waste of 1/3 of a vehicle. I know putting a Jmacx 6x6 conversion ticked a lot of boxes as well but the weight carrying capacity is a bonus too.Our final product delivers to us what is a two way bet as we can tow our camper as it has its own trailer and leave it behind anywhere setup and still do day trips away from camp or we can remove the camper from the tray and leave it setup on legs(braced) and act as a dual cab trayback returning whenever and reconnecting as a single unit. I will watch what your final product ends as with interest and you never know might run into somewhere out there in the outback. I will agree with you that a single cab chassis is to restrictive for the reasons you stated no space.
Trayon slide on camper on the back, get the shower unit and diesel heater/water heater unit. It sets up in under 5 minutes. Light weight too.
Hi Andrew. I enjoyed this video. However, i don't understand how the 200 series was eliminated. You don't have to use patriot. There are companies like Creative Conversions that could convert it to an extended cab chassis. Once the vehicle is converted you take over and build the rest yourself. Certainly will cost more but surely you then have the perfect foundation. Comfort, off road capability and payload. Interested in your thoughts. Thanks.
I love your passion Andrew. The story behind the choice was perfect. Make it your own and we'll enjoy seeing how it turns out and performs.
Huge cost and inconvenience for a coke and camera! I'm usually a big fan of your choices, Andrew, but I believe this stretched vehicle may stretch your temper when completed. The cons for this length vehicle far outweigh the pros. As a single cab chassis driver myself, I know you can fit a lot into the smaller space. Can I suggest putting more of your proven design skills into refitting a single cab with a purpose built fridge and perhaps a designer camera rack. This seems a far better option than an oversized dual cab!
Sorry Andrew
G300 has 2080 kg payload before you put a body on the chassis. Not 4 tonne.
4490 GVM
2410 Tare weight
2080 payload (as a cab/chassis)
minus body weight
= payload after body fitted
Payload is what you can carry
I like your comment “all about access” that’s so true
Multilayering of gear is a pain in the backside
(Rubiks cube camping.)
I don’t agree that Toyota should build them only in a longer wheelbase. They’re designed for carrying 4 or 5 people and some gear. Not one guy and a large camper. Maybe the option of two wheelbases would be good. If they only built them longer, they’d be heavier on the front axle when not loaded.
Every specification is always a compromise. They build them for many applications. You’ll solve some problems and create some more. Ramp over angle and turning circle for a start.
I think you should just keep your troopy or build another one.
Good luck with your build!!!
Before I finish the video I can say ur choice will be 70 series coz they r the best
hi Andrew
yesss, that's it - stretch it :-)
I have the same "love" when it comes to Overland Vehicles. My decision was also a Toyota 70 Series DC. It's a HZJ79 with the famous 1HZ 6Zyl. Motor - not directly from Toyota as they do not Import them in Europe. But you can get them via Dubai but need some modification like a DPF.
Finding a Cabine took some time, I had also a long List with must have's and don’t want anymore …. for example cold feet or damp and cold Clothes in the morning - so I came to a cabine you also recognised (min. 3:38 in your Video) … it was one of my best choices I've ever did. I always thought when you in earlier Videos where talking about a nice and clean room for editing and living - my cabine would fit your Needs as well :-)
I'm very curious how your DreamCar will look like!
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Should have went with the Iveco. That wheelbase looks goofy as hell.
Master Ruseman he just makes videos to sell what he calls “his creations” that he bought from companies and add price because the car was “famous” on UA-cam 😅😅😅😅
@@adrianovergara1784 You obviously never built an Overland rig yourself, or you would know how much work it is😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
It does.
Looks much more practical than the factory wheelbase with the axle under the front of the tray.
After I bought the Alucab 270 awning that you speak about in one of your previous videos, my wife banned me from watching any more of your videos. She says every time I watch one of your vids, money leaves the account 😁😁😁.
Getting 3 more seats all that space wasted and having to stretch the chassis just to carry inside a camera and a can of coke is madness!
There are solutions to have access from the back window of the cabin to a storage in the camper. Large enough for cameras, bottles, etc. and accessible from both the cabin and the camper.
Fé lix
Some sense!!
Finally.
Fé lix but it’s not quick to access because you have to get out and open the canopy rather than reaching behind the seat
No question about it, we are very limited with the trucks/SUV's selection there are available here in North America. Also hard to get the DIESEL engines and manual transmissions have virtually disappeared. It would be nice to have the LANCRUISER 70 series available here as well as the MERCEDES G-WAGON PROFESIONAL. Hopefully they'll make them available SOON! Congrats Andrew! It will be an epic vehicle build! I'll be looking forward for these series. You are doing a great job with your channel.
I would highly recommend you look at Mits alloy in Newcastle NSW if you’re going with a alloy tray or canopy Andrew.
Just had my F250 done there and as I compare it to the norweld it’s far superior. Cheers Ty.
Andrew, are you stuck in a rut with Toyota? I know the market is compressing for fuller size trucks and SUVs but isn't it time to get the comfort and move into the off roader with trailer or camper setup? A shorter rig without the weight of the camper is more fuel efficient easier to maneuver into the tighter parts of the trail while the trailer is not connected and having the trailer means more fuel and water capacities for even longer trips. The trailer would not be a taxing on the off roader because you avoid the tougher sections while towing and return each night after a day of exploring without the trailer attached. This would create a longer trip time but it would provide for even more photo/video opportunities during the trip. Just a suggestion.
That's my thoughts exactly and is exactly what I do in my land rover, I can't see the sense in getting rid of that troopy really, and I can see regret coming
Firstly, Toyota is on a whole other planet in thinking what customers want vs what customers actually want. That will never change. I'm surprised the 79 has remained in Toyota's lineup and not faded out in exchange for another Prius variant. Secondly, I'm a little disappointed you're going with the 79 again. Yes it's perfect, we know that. How about picking something that's totally unexpected and a bit clumsy and show us what you can do with it with all the skills and techniques you've aquired? Yes it won't be perfect, but will be a fun challenge. Sometimes u just gotta do best with what you got.
Look at Zone RV canopies, much lighter than an alloy one as nice as the Norweld units are.
Seems like a lot of flex on the chassis. I think the patriot version (6×6) is safer, even of you do not need all that load
Will have an interesting turning circle. Looking forward to following the build.
You missed the part where he is adding rear wheel steering?
Have you watched the Black truck in action or Jase Andrews Back in Black 79 from All4 Adventure, the only mistake I think Andrew is making here and only can base it off cost is not going with a 4495 GVM Jmacx system which is probably the best out there especially considering the custom canopy build he is putting on the rear, that really surprised me, the company seems light on details on there website as well, also Jmacx system is more than just an extension it is built around supporting thst extension properly, diffs housing, axles and panhards and radius arms and being the canopy is a live in style rather than live out style that seems to me a major oversight.
Lol rear wheel steering. Well I guess I can hold my head up with the purchase of my long wheel base Nissan Frontier here in the US. Been trying to decide between turning the Frontier or my 1994 Chevy Suburban K2500 6.5 Diesel into an overlander. Oh the turning radius on my Frontier absolutely Sucks so I imagine the stretched landy is going to enjoy the same fate, but I still love my truck. Have Used it for work and play every day since 2013 and it's still going strong with 280,000 miles on it. Hauls a heck of a load In the bed or towing really well too. Had a 2001 Toyota Tundra 4.7 TRD Limited before which was a great truck as well but I gotta say the Frontier has been just as good if not better. At least for a guy that could never dream of affording a land cruiser.
@@maverick2242 first time I have seen moving the axle. Does the rear diesel sub tank still fit? I guess they have a work around
Pete M Well prob depends on who you choose, to do the extension and what solutions they have! but from what I can see with std conversions you can keep the stock tank as is, it just depends on the solution for the extension, I am really surprised by Andrews choice for quite a few reasons, but then he doesn’t talk about those and may cover them in a later vid. But Superior or Jmacx imo would have been my choices, I like Jmacx because imo they have the biggest GVM upgrade for the 79, 4495kg all states approved, its a proper conversion! not a cut and weld and bracket, plus they have a proper track correction solution not a fudge, future proofing the vehicle esp considering what Andrew wants to custom build on top of it, this company he has chosen the track correction doesn’t impress me at all, if you are gonna do something like this to me do it right, cheap when you are investing the money for this anyway doesn’t seem like a good plan to me, there are many options just with those 2 companies alone re budget, but the GvM upgrade legal in all states with a true track correction eg diff, axles upgrade, panhard rods, radius arms and links, brakes handbrake and driveshaft and more, option built in for a long range tank, which he will want as well, best departure angle on a 79 I have seen because the rear is completely cut off and replaced with a complete rear end it’s impressive. better way better than Toyota’s rear chassis, Superior have a clean solution as well and best axles in the business. check out those companies to learn more, good info on both. But so many options.Another thing with these options is wheel size and lift options, up to 35” and 4” lift so lots of scope, not that Andrew would want 4” lift I suspect but the scope is there without messing up the geometry. When you mess with one thing you need to beef up or match the other areas, an extension done right will beef up the chassis hence the GVM upgrade, remember the base of the vehicle is engineered around its current GVM and then still not overlanding, so the other components upgrade imo become important too.
Great video Andrew. I enjoy your enthusiasm and passion. You never add anything to your builds that don’t have a purpose or several purposes. Looking forward to following the build. I know you will end up with a great overlander. All the best.
I really like those canopies, I wish we had something like that in the states. I have been looking for something similar for my Ford F250
Norweld are available in the states
You Show us your Idea about it could be the perfecto Land Cruiser 79 but did you tough about center vehicle off road angles?... Thanks for your videos, excellent content, chers from Colombia South America.
Get a 79 and doing it yourself you right there is something about the 70 series,watching your builds i done mine and i i’m very happy ....thanks to you!,,
Disappointed it's not a Jimny. :D Not convinced you save money with a LC over the G Wagon Professional, once you spec the LC up to not quite match the G, it's just as expensive. But the single cab thing, I get that.
Andrew, just as sugestion, I drove a Dodge M886 truck for some years as a mobile workshop and camping vehicle. As it was designed as a military ambulance, it has greate insulation and space in the back, it has access to the back directly from the cab, and a lot of room in the cab itself, even being a single cab truck.
It was converted from its original 318ci petrol engine to a GM 6.2L diesel and 33 inch BfGoodrich MT tires. It was great off roading, good highway speed, and not that bad fuel economy. Give it a look, may be you can get some ideas. Hope its not to late.
Best wishes with your build and seeing forward to hear from it!
Jmacx 4495 GVM Coil Conversion.
Nice ride and flex on coils
GVM upgrade, plenty of safety margin for weight and max allowed on car licence.
300mm wheel base extension
Or are multi drive making a setup to match this?
Will be interesting to see what camper setup you come up with to take advantage of the extra wight limits.
Something along the lines of a pop top with a double bed over the cab and rest of dining/kitchen/toilet/shower on the tray area.
So many available designs out there however never quite exactly what you would want. Would be interesting if you did your own full custom build with the one piece insulated composite panels and internal fit out to your overland/film making requirements.
Mate. Looking forward to seeing this next build happen given your current ride is spot on . Big thanks for doing what you do also , its a highlight of my week . Cheers
may I suggest a 100hdfte with the same extension ?
With all due respect Andrew i disagree with you. The 79 series is designed perfect for its intended purpose. If your purpose exceeds the chosen vehicles' purpose then you've chosen the wrong vehicle. You once said this in one of your videos. It's much better to just buy the vehicle that is designed and engineered from factory for what you want. But that's the point isn't it? That's why so many 70 series owners modify their vehicles. Because they can't NOT get behind the wheel of one. It's a special kind of love that you (and i) have experienced. I own a 79 series dual cab GXL and the only thing i have modified is extend the gear stick like you did on your troopy by 2 inches. Which is hardly a modification. I have an alloy full sized canopy bolted onto the factory alloy tray and even with stock leaf springs it sits well. Lightweight is the key. And it's so comfortable with the weight on the back now. I will never ever modify anything else on my 79. Not even the stock tyre size. Because i will only make it worse.
I am of course excited to follow your build of the new Landcruiser 79. I know you will have a lot of fun building it. And yes, you will dearly miss your 78 series troop carrier! Cheers mate and keep up the fantastic videos!
Looking forward to the new build. I was really, really, really hoping you would do the 200 build but will still watch and enjoy the 70. Cheers
I recall the test drives of the dual cab round the time you came to Australia and met with Rhon. then handed it back for the troopy. Fixing that infamous toyota wheel track again must be delightful every time you buy a new landcruiser might as well extended it while you're there.
The moment the first viewers saw your video, the waiting time for a 70 series Land Cruiser in Germany went from 3 to 6 months. ;-)
Just saw you today cruising along Yeagarup beach! I saw the the green troopy and the max trax on the side and thought.....surely not. Double take when I realised it was the one and only! Hope you enjoyed your time down that neck of the woods. My goodness was it blowing a gale though. Would have needed more like a dead lion than a dead cat if you were getting audio there today!
Hey Andrew. Why not do a modest cab extension on a single cab and leave the wheelbase as is? You'd have space to stow your stuff and still decent handling?
Why not install a lazy axle to an existing duel cab 70 series? You can up the payload without all of the other headaches that come with extending a wheelbase on a vehicle.
Widen the rear axle so same track
Auto option
Rear coil springs instead of leaf
They'd be the perfect 4wd
My issue is at their price you have to pay a fortune then sort all that yourself
I still believe the previous generation HiAce 4x4 conversion.
Not too big, no body changes required, still has an excellent turning circle and reliable.
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This channel is an off-roader treasure. Great job, Andrew.
Is the super long wheel base going to harm the off road utility??
I know you’re reluctant to change the body but a super cab or cut down the body so it only has thin rear access doors and storage that is reachable from the drivers seat might work too. Then only a mild wheelbase extension.
I envy your options you’ve made available for you. I never did what you’ve done and look at our differences.
I love the direction and thinking of your next build. If you havent already, you should look at a Four Wheel Camper Flatbed model to put on a Norweld tray! It is a super well designed and functional camper, with tons of benefits including getting all of the weight in front of the rear axle and as low as possible! I have that setup here in the US and have spent over 600 nights in it so far.
Considered a 1500 ram? Also patriot campers has a secondary business PCOR that makes just the Supertourer trays. Would be great to see a 300mm extended 79 with a PCOR tray on it. (PCOR makes a 300mm extended 79 tray off the shelf)
Would you call it a bloody ute?
Great stuff Andrew. Good luck with the build.
This should be fun to watch. Hope it turns out as good as you hope it does. George.
Maybe Mr Toyota is trying to balance the wheelbase and turning radius :). How long before weight and GVM subject resurface ?
Waffle on, waffle on, waffle on.
I have found the best way to watch Andrew’s videos now is on mute, skipping ahead by 10 seconds at a time to get the gist of pictures etc and then watch the last 2 minutes for the summary.
never seen a video of his before but i have definitely skipped about 1/3 of this one lol
Lol
Yeah the waffling gets to me
Haha, that's exactly what I did, and then I read your comment! lol
Yep the overemphasis of everything and nothing in particular is really annoying ...... so it's mute and skip for me to.
You should take a look at the ORC G Camp Pro. It is a G Wagon converted to a Camper without the single cab issue.
Why not look into a jmacx kit? You get one of the biggest gvm upgrades you can on a 79 + a chassis extension + a coil rear set up and axle track correction in one hit. You get your load carrying capacity and comfort.
Surely you Must end up with a huge turning circle if you move back axle back so far. And thats not good on winding twisty tracks.
Not made any better by the fact poor turning circle these have from factory. Interesting to see how he solves that.
Don't mater to him. He just wants another 79 series
Wild peak tires? What happed to bf Goodrich?
My thoughts exactly!
Looking forward to this build, the more we build trucks the more refined we get these tourers setup
Exciting times
Any reason why you don't take a trooper and cut the cab back to fit your camper? Axel / weight problem solved
Perfect truck, I would have one of those. Luv the Norweld Tray and canopy. But I am not very tall and I would never be able to reach half the stuff in the canopy.. Have you considered the height thing?
I have a 130 defender and had an idea to stretch it to 177". six door with the 110 high cap tub to have it where i may take my whole family with me as well as my weekend toys in the back. Axle placement is critical, if you are to extend the rear axle it should be either in the middle or 30% inwards from the rear bumper puttin it in either the 50% or 60% of the rear tub. this way it carries the extra load and still offers you decent turning radius. My 130 has a crappy turning radius stock, so extending it to a 177" would make it near impossible to do a three point turn on city streets. something else you should consider.
You currently have space to work, where will you work in the 79 with a canopy? If the answer is a slide on type of arrangement, then how will you deal with the extra height? Many questions Andrew and very exciting because I'm sure you have dealt with all these and a whole lot I haven't considered. Looking forward to the next instalment.
Can't wait to see the finished product Andrew. Interesting you kept the original length, please discuss your thought processes given its a great opportunity to modify tray length to suit any special equipment.
Also did you consider the Merc Sprinter 4x4?
I just love the shape of the 70 series. They are the nicest by far.
A bit off subject, but can you tell me what watch you wear, is it a pre ceramic Rolex Submariner? Why did you choose that watch? They are great timepieces, but did you ever consider something else?
Andrew, I'm catching up on your channel, I've been away for too long. But I would just like to say. What it seems to me you really want is a 79-series dual cab with a multi-drive 6x6 chassis extension conversion with the troop carrier rear body welded on to the back of the dual cab body.
Hats off to you sir for the idea of the rear axel correction. Much love from Greece.
Just waiting for Ronny Dahl to pop into this video series.
In my opinion, he should have kept the Troopy. The camper shell will end up spoiling the off-roadability of the vehicle.
I remember at one point in time, you were thinking about a 6X6. What happened to that idea?
I reckon you will need rock sliders on that for pushing the rear around tight corners!
It’s a shame the troopy had to go, I love the colour of the troopy and I hope you stick with it on the new 79 dual cab also, all the best with the new build looking forward to the new videos of it
With the single cab setup you could have direct access from your seat to storage through a hatch to the camper where the rear window would have been in the cab. Just a thought. Cheers.
Nice evaluation and thoughts. But I think the solution is the Iveco Daily 4x4. I know you have already built this 79 DCab and driven it with you wife and also have compared with the Troopy. I’m convinced, your perfect tourer is the iveco.
I I’ve completely different needs. I’m waiting for the Grenadier
that rear overhang was the reason i decided against the dual cab years ago
The overhang is the same in a single cab
8meterwish single cap was never up for consideration since I have kids 😉
Thanks for sharing your personal thoughts in a pleasant and clever way. It's not easy to do at all. You're a very good storyteller! If by any means you have a version of your build with the steering wheel on the "good" side (LHD), I'll be interested in a low cost version! Haha! Cheers from Marseille, France
Hard to fault a 79 Series. We loved them in Africa...too bad we can’t get them in the US. I think Toyota is missing out on a great business opportunity...
Look forward to the build!
Hard to fault? Are you kidding? There's more faults on that poorly designed, badly equipped & over priced pile of garbage than you can poke a stick at.
Hands down the worst value for money 4wd on the planet. You are paying for a V8 diesel and the rest is rubbish and needs to be changed
@@callumwhite1501 Whats rubbish about them?
Bob have you driven one?
where do you start.... for 80k you get Ply door panels wrapped with vinyl, 2 shitty speakers in the dash, centre console that so low you can’t even lean on it, average seats and almost no NVH. A 90mm difference in rear wheel track, leaf under suspension with as much flex as a chopping board, a clutch that can border line hold factory torque levels. Air conditioning and cruise control is still an option on a gxl.
The dual cab standard has a terrible wheel base that just becomes sketchy when heavily loaded, especially with the standard wheel track. Literally the only positive I can think about is that nice diesel V8 up the front which is no ruined by a DPF you can’t legally remove.
My father in law has one and it 140k invested in it and it has no chassis mods, coils or portals or anything crazy. They are built for the farm and I can’t understand why people are so obsessed with them
I think I would have gone with the 200 series with a 350mm extension
Hey Andrew have you thought about converting the new landcruiser to full time 4wd for safety ? Like the 105 series ?
I afraid about the turning radius you will get after moving your rear wheels that back.. Please share your experience about that..
Would this be an opportunity to move the leaf springs to the top of the rear axle? Engineering required I know, but we're talking Australia.
Great video. I'm currently building a motorhome on a 79 series single cab (extended chassis) in Dubai. Hope to be complete in February 2020.
I keep trying to tell wrangler lovers that the g wagon is the best off road vehicle along with the landcrusier
Ammata Pierron but why though. What does it have that the rubicon doesn't"
Interesting choice of modification,I wonder what the maneuverability will be like being such a long wheel base?.This will be a good series and good to see it in action.
@4xoverland Can we add a bit of Rear Wheel Steering for when it gets tight? Congrats sir, on the final decision. Lookin forward to seeing the build and journey along with it.
Should fit right in with the Ronny Dahl tagalong tours ☺️
Travelling around Africa is my oldest dream. Really like the channel. Maybe one day you will be building car for me. My choice would be an extended cab pickup any time. Who knows. :-) All the best.
The All4Adventure fellas have a dual cab 79 with the 300mm chassis extension. I think it might have been Creative Conversions that did it for them, it looks and performs great! Excited to see the way yours turns out.
Landcruiser is the best off road vehicle in the world! First I need to spend 50k cutting it up and fixing its issues...
Everyone else has already mentioned break over so I won't. I will ask what happened to the 6 wheel idea?
Andrew have you considered a 4-motion VW transporter campervan instead? You could add a snorkel, lift kit and better tires.