Ask George: T20 WC Final - India v South Africa | "Was this the result the ICC were desperate for?"
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- Опубліковано 29 чер 2024
- George Dobell and Oscar Ress answer the #AskGeorge questions following India winning the T20 World Cup against South Africa in Barbados.
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It is absurd to claim that India cheated by pushing the boundary rope during the World Cup, especially considering the match is being broadcast live and thousands of people are watching from the stadium.
@@harendrabhandari4266 ICC should just release the footage of that side altogether cause some countries will never stop bitching about it
shameless people
Dont care them. You should keep in mind that "jealousy has no cure". 😂
Jay Shah moved the rope between overs. There is evidence shown on BBC and Pakistan news
@@jetpark3743 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣Pakistan news
SA did not choke but lost because of a brilliant catch by SKY and death overs bowling by Indian bowlers.
The SA players will learn from this defeat as it was first time for them playing in a final and being under tremendous pressure to win.
These players will be ready for next T20 WC and especially the ODI WC where they will be the host.
Sky foot touched boundary
@@hannibalking85India are t20 champions of 2024. Keep crying till u die
@han no nibalking85
Everyone saying 30 from 30 required, 6 wickets in hands. They forgot bumrah have to bowl 12 balls from that 30.
Also they are only saying 30 from 30. But it was also 64 of 38 at one point of time. If 8 balls can go horribly for India, can the same not happen for SA.
@@villavan I love how this world cup made bowlers the center of attention, Especially in a batting obsessed country of india
@@marathiboi96YES, made a welcome change from the bat over ball IPL that became, for me at least, a turn off.
@@bananabrooks3836absolutely
@@renegadepuppy very well said, absolutely 8 balls turned the game in favour of SA but the next 30 balls have turned the game in favour of India.....
The catch was clean - simple as that. Also, the boundary moved back a bit ‘cause Nortge pushed back in over 1 of the game when chasing a boundary from kohli
exactly, they had the half time to fix it but they didn't
@@marathiboi96 absurd
absurd logic
@@kunalsaini-dc5vy what? The boundary was moved in the first over of the entire game, they had all the time to move it but they left it as it is, It's not India's fault
@@marathiboi96, why to fix it at halftime if the boundary lines stayed like this the all India innings. If anything had to be fixed from something happened at the first over of the game, it should have get fixed before the second over. Otherwise keep it the same and sore losers who are unhappy with the result, keep your mouth shut.
Dread it, Run from it, India were the WT20 champions and one of their players *pant* had won more tests in australia than poms in the last decade
Why are you using Australian terms like 'poms'? 🤣
The gentleman may like Australian people or Australian accent or may be living in Australia or a hundred of other things. I can also tell that he has got a trophy just yesterday night and he is over the moon. Can't say the same about you @@AM2K2
@@AM2K2 It's very cringe when Indians use it, they have a desperate need to feel involved in an actual sporting rivalry they use words unique to Australian culture 😂
Don't be a dick for no reason. You can celebrate your team's wins without dragging other teams down.
@@AM2K2 My internet i can type whatever the hell i want, cry me a river whinging pommy bastard
Instead of calling it a choke, I would say it was a result of an indian team that fought desperately to win the trophy. And don't get me started on Bumrah, he is already the greatest Indian fast bowler and for sure one the all time greats. His precision is second to absolutely none. He's as some people said, a cheat code.
Edit - The sky catch was clean as a whistle. It will definitely go down as one of the greatest catches considering the situation.
@@Sunny-sc5vq The sky catch is gonna be point of debate because the boundry line was moved by none other than south african bowler nortje, He slid into it trying to stop a boundary in the very first over and then probably flipped it, as it was without a thought and it remained as it was for next 38 freaking overs, No one bothered but a coincidentally it came into play in the final over, Sky didn't watch the painted line but the ad brick line, in the end, south africa fumbled a lot, they should've closed the game in 19th over, taken more risks
@@marathiboi96 I don't think it's gonna be a topic of discussion as everyone is congratulating India and are saying that the best team won the trophy. I'm pretty sure if Australia or England had been on the receiving end then it would've been discussed by their media, but south africans have been kind and fair and haven't made an issue out of a non-issue.
@@marathiboi96 SA could have taken risks in the 19th but would that have guaranteed them a win? Nothing is as certain as we think it is.
@@expeditioner9322 nothing on field is certain, but off field, England and Pakistan fans are gonna use that one ground mistake, which India wasn't even part of, to accuse India of cheating
Funny isn’t it that although the stadium had about 30 cameras covering every inch of the ground, not one camera caught Jay Shah moving the boundary lines a bit behind so that SKY will catch legally.
But it seems millions of people watching the match on television in SA, UK , Aust n Pak saw Jay Shah moving the boundary lines.
Tech lost to human eyes in this match.
I did see Jay Shah basically lift the trophy with Rohit, then celebrate with the players. Does he work for ICC or BCCI?
Typical madarasa students knowledge and comment😂 😂😂😂
@@Removehandle
As Jarod Kimber said, why listen to wat they say, just ignore them.
@@andrews418
He is secretary of BCCI n director of ICC which is most probably wat all board representatives to ICC job title.
I think you better read up more to increase your shallow knowledge of matters
@@andrews418 he's the BCCI chief, which means Indian cricket board chief, he's part of the ICC committee, just like every other board chief, is he not supposed to celebrate with his country team? Just asking.
Pm modi pulled the bounsary rope back so that india could win it ❤❤
No catches were dropped unlike as seen by England and Australia
He's a bit special that Bumrah. Has it on a string, like the days of McGrath, Warne etc.
Hopefully stays fit for next 6/8 years.
4:50 I can assure you, most of the Indians thought SA win was inevitable at the end of 15th over.
I dont know why indias feel sorry for SA. As a indian i want india to win. I will never worry for SA. If SA was playing against any other country i would have supported them but not against my team.
Huge respect and sympathy for South Africa. They’re awesome 🙌
Come on guys west indies, south africa and recently Afghanistan are the teams that indians support the most after India
So Smile Group Travel couldn’t get you out in time for the Final?
This discussion reminds me of my days when i suspected or firmly believed that Australians had paid pakistani team before 1999 WC final or Ponting had springs attached to his bat . Its human nature when u are really broke ur mind convinces u of some divine power playing its part to give u some relief from the pain . Like when someone dear dies u say he has become star 🌟 when reality is that he is being eaten by earthworms .
7:52 - absolutely, as an Indian 🇮🇳 fan, I will 'never' forget the heartbroken smile with which DeKock left the ground.
Dreams of yet another generation of extremely talented, deserving South African players left unfulfilled.
It made me reflect on life. Why do good deserving ppl sometimes lose.
Wow, I completely missed Jay Shah running straight past the umpires to mess around with that boundary rope/hoarding, but of course I'm glad my friends from Eng,SA,Aus,Pak,Ban are there to remind me that it INDEED HAPPENED, and they clearly saw it from their television sets even when almost everyone in the stadium missed it...#EAGLEEYES
It is so good to come back to hear George just casually giving some wonderful insights after each matches. Just two people chatting cricket without much hullabaloo. So true when he said, they were able to do it because they were just too good and agree with him that India has under achieved in the past 10 years.
Oh absolutely!!! We Indians loved the result obviously but we did give a moment to reflect how brilliant SA were n felt little sad seeing them crying.
There were a few moments, not just the catch: a) Dismissal of Klaasen, who was well set, b) Bumrah dismissing Jansen, c) Bumrah/Arshdeep keeping the lid on runs leading to the last over. So, focusing on the SKY catch, questioning it is wrong. For sure, it played a role, but it’s not the only factor. In these days of replays, neutral umpires, things are as fair as they can be.
ICC is desperate for Ind vs pak where Ind win
So Pak has been lossing to India for money or somethint else?
Pakistan can never reach finals in an ICC trophy in this decade. So, forget it.
Re. Fielding support team throwing the ball back in; this also has the effect of saving the legs of the fielding team, saving them 30-40 metres of running to the rope and back the their position. Might just save them enough energy to chase a ball to the rope later and save the boundary?
Excellent channel, and series of videos throughout the world cup. Thank you for such nicely analysed program 🙏🏽💥
I don't think South Africa "choked" but isn't an inability to perform under pressure the textbook definition of choking? (see Mesagno, C., & Hill, D. M. (2013). Definition of choking in sport: Re-conceptualization and debate. International Journal of Sport Psychology, 44(4), 267-277.)
I just believe it was the lack of batting resources and the last few overs of Arshdeep & Bumrah that lost them the game, not that much the pressure of the occasion as shown by the Klassen brilliance, however in saying that I see your point
@@aarav-xx9tk South Africa looked a batsman short to me. And Bumrah was brilliant.
@@davdt437 yup agree with that.
Beautiful game played between the well deserved teams..Yes, SA played wonderful, kept us on the edge of our seats, but India were slightly better at those last crucial clinching moments.. Well played SA🇿🇦👏, you won hearts and more promising for future contests. Hats off to Our ICT, for bringing back the trophy home..much love team Bharat❤🇮🇳
Bumrah in the 2023 WC final and the postponed 5th test v England in that COVID era are two times when Bumrah was not exactly great
He is definitely superior to Marshall, Hadlee who does not get to play on conducive wickets for 60% of his games but he still delivers. In this world of neutral umpires and eagle eyes of 20 odd on-ground camera there is no hanky-panky with the ball --Boom delivered in Australia - test matches, England and in this era of powerful bats and short boundaries this guy is a phenom in every format... Thanks to Bumrah's mother and that small room where little Bumrah practiced those deliveries with utmost precision endlessely so as to not interrupt mom's nap .. Now India sleeps contentedly when Bumrah bowls.
If every Country' Cricket Council had the same say at ICC meetings, how come India, Australia and England have the most number of bilateral test, odi and t20 matches? All other nations of late play maximum 2 tests and 3 ODIs only in a series among one another, whereas England, India and Australia play 5 test-match series and 5-7 ODI matches? Definitely, the financially big 3 country councils have more say in the formats and numbers of matches per cycle. ICC needs more independency and should not be greedy for money at the expense of the game.
George Dobell is as sensible as ever
Some brilliant points. Refreshing. Intelligent. Keep it up.
This is a Top class show! You guys need to do an episode every week!!
Very balanced and insightful post match analysis. Subscribed 😊
india fan so happy about the win. gutted for david miller and klaasen, as a former sportsman. markram is a good captain and he will win a world cup for SA before he is done. well played south africa.
@@reki4279 wouldn't mind if South africa win 2026, cause now I want India to win WTC and CWC 27
Great podcast .. good job Oscar and George with great insights and honest opinions
Yes no doubt about it
At 9:55, wrt great bowlers having few if any off days, I would put Josh Hazelwood and Pat Cummins along with Bumrah.
Great answers George
what a great point about the support staff helping save precious seconds.
It's useless if your team is loosing in 18th over
Nice prodcast sir
Had it was anotherway around it would have favoured india with that boundary catch
Well done Oscar. You’ve been a great host
#NationalTreasure Jasprit Bumrah. As an Indian fan, during my time the only other Indian bowler we wanted bowling when India was in trouble was Anil Kumble.
There's a new stadium coming up in Vadodra ( Baroda ) 100 kms away . Probably they can rename it as the JB stadium 😁
Good one, father-son duo 😺
16:00 I have only two batters hitting Bumrah well
Travis head
Jack Fraser Mcgurk
Jack hit him 18runs in IPL, bumrah looked ordinary infront of him
Feel bad for SA..but didn't want us to hv a 2nd time heartbreak within 8 months!!
Fun fact : if india were not in the final most Indians would support South Africa
English moaning is something i really relish!!!😋😋😋 thank you Christina for the question!!🎉🎉
He wasn't moaning
Why you people are not giving credit to Indian team.Why ICC wanted India to win .This headline is not giving credit to Indian team.This shouldn't be said like this
The WC was a none event. Poor pitches, terrible scheduling, and still the super 8s which make no sense. I am sick and tired of commentators not telling the reality
Go and watch boundary count winning moments of flat track bulley England team in 2019 ODI World Cup and relax 😂😂😂
2019 was the worst world cup.
OK @larrygerry985 stick to watching golf.
SA choke , 26runs from 24 balls with bumrah 1over left...your 2 gun batters set the game was there too be won...Miller not taking responsibility with 20runs from 12 balls and giving tailenders the strike is shocking
SA were crushing until death overs
18:25 You are here for this
What a game and no wonder why new narrative by western media.
SA didnt choke
Jasprit Bumrah stadium in Ahm omg I so love that idea how do I subscribe 50x😂
Cricket is an only sport with different formats which need different skill sets. Why do we need to ask which format is more popular than other? We can enjoy all the formats equally. ❤
Aah George Doorbell, still crying after a decade about India's growth. When Aussie and English media cry, that means India is right.
How english won 2019 wc by boundary count I don't know why these english people are always jealous of india
Why do you watch it then?
We are not jealous of anything. Good track Eng win. Low slow track ( by ddesign) you win. Not rocket science. Its 20 over. Cricket FFS
Yes rightly said
@@user-yi9zn6jd9bgood english design at lords final
We are playing at westindies not in india 😂
Like you play at your home ground
@@AM2K2I know what to watch I don't need your help thanks for your help
I really loved this discussion. Was one of the best ones I have heard yet.
As an Indian, I was a bit bothered by the fact that the boundary seemed moved. Your analysis on it put my mind to ease.
Great observation about the Indian boundary runners by George 👌Respect 🙏🏼
Such a desperate tagline! Why so bitter?
Third umpire won ind wc
The britishers and their endless crying 😂
Damn is that a kid?
Lol its the team's performance which decides the winner ICC like us all people can only hope... The undeserving lots crashed out as per their performance 😂
When you do not win you start questioning about others success. You are very mean people.
It is going to be very painful time, imagine if we keep winning.. most likely we will..
"I think it's disrespectful to describe it as a choke. India applied a lot of pressure and South Africa struggled to deal with it"
So.. choke then.
You can need a run a ball with 6 wickets in hand and not really get close and call it anything else.
U are really dead.
Jealousy on top.
The quintessential moaning with loads of hypocrisy.
Clickbaity video title. Better luck next time
India should sit out the Champions Trophy if they will not play in Pakistan. The ICC should take a stand for once.
Sure. And Australia not playing Afghanistan?
But who can ignore Indian Team world beaters . Without which any tournament will not be done
No money without India
Bad losers😂
Irresponsible title.
As an Indian die hard fan- I felt pretty bad for SA to be honest.
India wins so run the stupid narrative every time
CRY MORE😂
Jay Shah moved the rope between overs. There is evidence shown on BBC and Pakistan news channels😂
nice one George!!
Oscar Rees use ur brain . T20 every 2 years is ideal . It’s gives associate nation more play time against top nation . Even FIFA is contemplating WC every 2 years
Credit goes to bowlers and sky ... don't cry.😅.. useless content
Keep crying.
Just how petty and pathetic do you have to be that everything is bitter resentment and deep suspicion about Indian cricket, ICC and BCCI? There is no other reason for the ridiculous clickbait title
Cricket don't belong to only ENG & AUS. Green Deck with ball Swinging is not the only Art in Cricket. Asian countries don't complain when ENG or AUS win. The Problem is when thay fail, they start Crying Foul Play😂😂. Both ENG & AUS were eliminated by India in this T20 WC.
" SA & India were top teams for this world cup".
Dont know about the ICC but this definately was not the result ECB, ACB and PCB were rooting for.
BCB too
Stupid headline you know India bartered you 4-1 earlier in the year and annihilated your batters in the semis 😅 we have always been knocking on the door of the trophy for many many years, job done. 👍🏽 next.