30 minutes delay is quite good because they normally drive with a minimum of 1 to 2 hours delay, I have one seen with a 5 hour delay but here in the Netherlands they are also being known because of the many delays they are experiencing
Yes, the cabins are good. If you can get one. My experience is that I am often too early to make a reservation, or when I try later, everything is sold out. When traveling from Zurich to Prague, the train left about one hour earlier, without notifying passengers. The attendant told me that 5 passengers were missing. No surprise. It happened to friends that the sleeper coach simply did not show up. 14 hours is a very long time to cover the distance between Zurich and Amsterdam. Don't forget that there is nothing else to do on the train than stay in your cabin. In short, the Nightjet CAN be good,
I paid 425 Euro for a double with shower and WC inluding breakfast and two small bottles of sparkling wine Hamburg - Innsbruck in August. It was the largest of the doubles in the New Nighjet from Siemens. The other doubles having a combined shower and WC, while ours had a separate shower. It was quit luxurious. For comparison: I paid 200 Euro for two first class tickets with DB Kiel-Freiburg and 150 Euro for a premium hotel room for two in July. I think this will be the price to expect forwards. There are many cheaper options: standard doubles, shared sleepers, couchettes and mini cabins. 20 to 30 years ago I travelled reguarly in coach on night trains to save money. New rolling stock is extremely expensive, and Nighthet has to start buying new roling stock. I have travelled Berlin - Budapest for much less money in a double, but I am not sure if that is Nightjet or a Nighjet affilate. Generally prices drop when traveling in Eastern Central Europe and Eastern Europe compared to Western Europe. European Sleeper will have to buy new rolling stock sooner or later also. Their oldest rolling stock are from the 50ies. So I expect their prices to rise also.
Did the Basel BBHf to Utrecht sleeper-train vv. regularly in the 90s. Even then on-time was rare, but it was the best ever way of travelling I have done. And I travelled a lot.
I have taken nightjet, it was great, only issue was breakfast was later than I had asked. Right now prices indeed insane but the trains have 100% occupancy anyway so OEBB can get away with it.
The big attraction of this is city centre to city centre without the hassle of airports and airport security - I just wish they would hurry up and start building the high speed rail tunnel under the Irish Sea from Holyhead to Dublin that could join the main Dublin - Belfast line, allowing arrival at Dublin Connolly - I’d love to see a dedicated direct service from Hull via Leeds, Manchester Victoria and through to Holyhead to connect with such a high speed line to Dublin
About the dynamic price policy: Seeing such a surge in prices is actually a good sign. Not for the individual passenger, but for the night trains in total. Getting high prices on an dynamic price policy means that people _really_ want night trains and are willing to pay for it.
The SBB coaches aren't 'standard SBB type 4 intercity coaches', they are EuroCity-coaches. They look similar to the type 4 coaches, but have different interiors, and the door placement is also different.
Lucky you. Our trip from Brussels to Salzburg last week cancelled on 48 hours notice. Whilst I understand why, more notice would have helped as this completely messed up the holiday, and trying to get the money back from outside Austria when you don't speak German is not straightforward (visited the OBB travel office in Salzburg when we eventually arrived - fingers crossed that the form will be processed).
Brilliant video once again! Had no idea about this route and this video was making me want to do it till you mentioned the price at the end 😭 Do you know another similar experience (with private cabin like the one you booked) but cheaper or a more "worth the money for what you get"?
Thank you for the comment! The Nightjet used to be a decent value for money overall, but the dynamic pricing really has put many people (including myself going forward) off which is a shame. Sadly Nightjet rule the roost when it comes to night trains in Western Europe these days, but start-up European Sleeper I found to be pretty decent value for money when I tried them (Brussels-Amsterdam-Berlin-Dresden-Prague). They'll also be launching a Brussels-Venice service in February next year too, and recently launched a dining car!
How much?? But if i took my wife and daughter would it be the same price as it is for a cabin? I was thinking about taking this for a second and then heard the price. Used to live in Basel and enjoyed the Swiss trains
@@damcoentertainment3956 At that price it would cover 2 nights in a hotel + flight especially if booked in advance which you have to do for cabin if you went by train.
It's meant to be 150 million, the captions say "million", and that's the correct number (it's slightly above that). But yes I could also swear he says billion.
30 minutes delay is quite good because they normally drive with a minimum of 1 to 2 hours delay, I have one seen with a 5 hour delay but here in the Netherlands they are also being known because of the many delays they are experiencing
Regarding delays, expecting the unexpected is the norm., all in all a great way of travel by train Great review and nicely presented video👍
30 min late isnt that bad, i have seen +14h on Vienna-Amsterdam once. XD
Yikes! Yeah I consider myself lucky, especially with the crossover through Germany! 😬
Yes, the cabins are good. If you can get one. My experience is that I am often too early to make a reservation, or when I try later, everything is sold out.
When traveling from Zurich to Prague, the train left about one hour earlier, without notifying passengers. The attendant told me that 5 passengers were missing. No surprise. It happened to friends that the sleeper coach simply did not show up. 14 hours is a very long time to cover the distance between Zurich and Amsterdam. Don't forget that there is nothing else to do on the train than stay in your cabin.
In short, the Nightjet CAN be good,
I paid 425 Euro for a double with shower and WC inluding breakfast and two small bottles of sparkling wine Hamburg - Innsbruck in August. It was the largest of the doubles in the New Nighjet from Siemens. The other doubles having a combined shower and WC, while ours had a separate shower. It was quit luxurious. For comparison: I paid 200 Euro for two first class tickets with DB Kiel-Freiburg and 150 Euro for a premium hotel room for two in July. I think this will be the price to expect forwards. There are many cheaper options: standard doubles, shared sleepers, couchettes and mini cabins. 20 to 30 years ago I travelled reguarly in coach on night trains to save money. New rolling stock is extremely expensive, and Nighthet has to start buying new roling stock. I have travelled Berlin - Budapest for much less money in a double, but I am not sure if that is Nightjet or a Nighjet affilate. Generally prices drop when traveling in Eastern Central Europe and Eastern Europe compared to Western Europe. European Sleeper will have to buy new rolling stock sooner or later also. Their oldest rolling stock are from the 50ies. So I expect their prices to rise also.
Did the Basel BBHf to Utrecht sleeper-train vv. regularly in the 90s. Even then on-time was rare, but it was the best ever way of travelling I have done. And I travelled a lot.
I have taken nightjet, it was great, only issue was breakfast was later than I had asked. Right now prices indeed insane but the trains have 100% occupancy anyway so OEBB can get away with it.
The big attraction of this is city centre to city centre without the hassle of airports and airport security - I just wish they would hurry up and start building the high speed rail tunnel under the Irish Sea from Holyhead to Dublin that could join the main Dublin - Belfast line, allowing arrival at Dublin Connolly - I’d love to see a dedicated direct service from Hull via Leeds, Manchester Victoria and through to Holyhead to connect with such a high speed line to Dublin
About the dynamic price policy:
Seeing such a surge in prices is actually a good sign.
Not for the individual passenger, but for the night trains in total. Getting high prices on an dynamic price policy means that people _really_ want night trains and are willing to pay for it.
Wow
Great vlog! Glad I came across you. Just subscribed 😊
Looks great! Thanks for the comprehensive review including all the details. 👌
5:20 This locomotive is a Re460 belonging to the SBB
wow good one!
The SBB coaches aren't 'standard SBB type 4 intercity coaches', they are EuroCity-coaches. They look similar to the type 4 coaches, but have different interiors, and the door placement is also different.
Love this channel ;)
A MUn sleeper on this Nightjet again? I thought they only use AB33 on the route. You had luck and travelled aboard the best sleeping car ever made!
Great video !!
2:32 the tracks 31-34 are just one set of underground tracks! There's also 21-22 for the SZU (originally intended for the Zürich Metro) and 41-44
Great document, thank you.
So much for modern European trains. Our slow old XPT Sydney to Melbourne 800 kilometres is only 12 hours.
Lucky you. Our trip from Brussels to Salzburg last week cancelled on 48 hours notice. Whilst I understand why, more notice would have helped as this completely messed up the holiday, and trying to get the money back from outside Austria when you don't speak German is not straightforward (visited the OBB travel office in Salzburg when we eventually arrived - fingers crossed that the form will be processed).
Brilliant video once again! Had no idea about this route and this video was making me want to do it till you mentioned the price at the end 😭 Do you know another similar experience (with private cabin like the one you booked) but cheaper or a more "worth the money for what you get"?
Thank you for the comment! The Nightjet used to be a decent value for money overall, but the dynamic pricing really has put many people (including myself going forward) off which is a shame. Sadly Nightjet rule the roost when it comes to night trains in Western Europe these days, but start-up European Sleeper I found to be pretty decent value for money when I tried them (Brussels-Amsterdam-Berlin-Dresden-Prague). They'll also be launching a Brussels-Venice service in February next year too, and recently launched a dining car!
2nd in 😍🥰🤩! Great video as always!
Thank you!!
Nice video as usual. Out of curiosity. What is your speedometer app?
you forgotten the. platforms. 41to 44 for s Bahn … and the. tracks. 21/22 for. a very unig service of SZU !
Can you board the train at the intermediate swiss stations on Sundays?
Apologies forgot to mention! But yes you can, quite a fair amount of people boarded the train at that point!
How much?? But if i took my wife and daughter would it be the same price as it is for a cabin? I was thinking about taking this for a second and then heard the price. Used to live in Basel and enjoyed the Swiss trains
First in
18:45 which speed app is that?
Yikes that's so expensive, at that price you can just fly as it's cheaper and faster.
You will have to pay another night at the hotel.
@@damcoentertainment3956 At that price it would cover 2 nights in a hotel + flight especially if booked in advance which you have to do for cabin if you went by train.
Did he really say 150 billion a year?? That's about 4.1m a day. Sounds a bit iffy......
It's meant to be 150 million, the captions say "million", and that's the correct number (it's slightly above that). But yes I could also swear he says billion.
A plane ticket is much cheaper. It makes no sense.