Great video! I also recently bought a 997. My first Porsche. Every time I drive it I keep asking myself, what took me so long!? Driving that car through the twisties is therapy in its purest form.
hey man, how much do u cost for maintaince per year. planning to get one. and planning to fking work super over time for getting the extra pay money lol.
@@dandan-mf4srSeriously, it has been very minimal. Just your basic oil change, after market filter cleaning (I do myself), recent brake fluid replacement. I use waterless wash and wax so I don’t take it in the car wash. It has costs me the same amount (avg.) of maintaining my Toyota Tacoma, which I use more often. I got new tires a couple years ago so that was an expensive line item.
I had my 997.2 C2S for 5 years now. Still the best car for the road I have ever driven. Thanks to your video. I saves hundreds of dollars by doing the oil changes and spark plugs myself. I am due for engine coolant change. @CarFanatic, will you be doing a DIY video for that?
Great video!, and thank you. I started my Porsche journey right after you. I have learned so much from your channel. If a car can be considered an investment, the 997.2 has been a very good one for me. Hold it for another new generation to come out, and it will officially be a classic.
I own a 997.2 carrera manual, full main dealer history, 49kM. The local Porsche garage have already asked me 2 times if I want to sell and "upgrade" to a second hand 991 or a new 992. I can efford to buy a good second hand 991 but the 997 has something special, so I keep
I just bought a gen 1, X51 pack only three weeks ago. The more I drive it the more I like it. Plus the weather and roads just now and I still took it out this am, got the car filthy and yet I don’t care. I’ll wash it tomorrow
Recently, I had a long chat with a service manager here in LA at a Porsche dealer and never heard someone so exited about his future purchase of a Ford Lighting truck. I was amazed as we were surrounded with 2022 speedsters
Well, I recently bought a 997 c2s... Always wanted a 911 but wasn't keen on spending so much money on a car... I managed to get one in top mechanical conditions from my best mate who had spent a lot of money on it during his ownership, for a very good price. One thing for sure, I still cannot believe this is my car and I love driving that thing. Mine has various upgrades, from Dansk exhaust, turbo brakes, GT3 alcantara steering wheel/brake stick and gear shifter etc... And a great aftermarket digital stereo unit with GPS/TV etc... To be honest, I never switch the radio on when I drive the car🤣, the noise from the engine and the exhaust is pure melody to me... I was going to buy a Cayman S 987 originally, but having driven both, there is no comparison between the two... The Cayman isn't a bad car at all, but the 997 c2s is in a different league, and this black beauty is a keeper! Just had the Lobsters painted in Satin Porsche Aurum Gold and it looks so good... Oh my oh my... Happy motoring everyone and don't drive like a spanner😉😎
My reasons for loving the 997 are the vastly improved interior design over the 996, and for the greatly improved exterior. The beautifully arranged gauges and cohesive dash and center stack finally worked as a visual unit. But the best reason for the 997 is the 2010 limited production Sport Classic upgrade. It set the bar for all 911s, and has never been surpassed. Of course they go for over $300,000 now but they are That Beautiful. From its dual-bubble roof, duck tail spoiler, Fuchs-inspired wheels and exclusive dove gray paint, racing stripes and exclusive interior appointments, the Sport Classic is as jaw-dropping today as it ever was.
I love my 1990 Baltic Blue 944S2 Cabriolet….I’ve owned it now, 20 years…still like new, less than 70k on the clock, and it gets comments and looks everywhere I go. But I’d be lying if I didn’t admit to wanting a 911. Life is short…getting shorter every day….niw may be just the time to “pull the trigger”.
👍 Buying a 997 now is a good idea. Paying inflation pricing for one in 2021 or recent May 2022? Naaaa! Stupidity. Cool video and the 997 is the next classic.
Great video. I bought by 2010 997.2 Carrera S manual in 2013. It had 17000km when I bought it and is now up to 58000 (weekend car). So far my experiences completely mirror yours. I’ve done about 10 track days in it over that time and it has had bullet proof reliability. Apart from scheduled maintenance I replaced the front pads and rotors, plus the clutch at about 55000km. The only issue I’ve had is when a stick flew up on a road trip and broke the serpentine belt and tensioner pulley wheel early last year and was replaced by the nearest Porsche dealer. Since then it runs flawlessly and is worth a lot more than I paid for it. Really like your video on fitting the joyeauto unit to pcm 3.0. Might be a good job for a rainy weekend. Does your care have Bose? Any issues with the sound quality. Keep up the great content Car Fanatic. Greetings from Sydney, Australia.
Hi, I too enjoyed the video, I was thinking the same thing about the Joyeauto unit for my 2009 model, from Carfanatic's diy it looks quite doable.... northern rivers nsw
@@chrisshands8157 you’ve got some great roads up your way. I’m keen to do the Waterfall way road around Dorrigo and also Thundebolts. I did them years ago in a Corolla. The Porker would be way more fun!
Thanks for the kind words. My car does have Bose and the sound quality is very good still. If you want to add one to your car, eCarGuides still has a couple left. ecarguides.com/product/porsche-pcm-3-0-wireless-apple-carplay-android-auto-mirrorlink-conversion-kit/
Definitely a doable DIY. If you want to get a unit, you can find one here. ecarguides.com/product/porsche-pcm-3-0-wireless-apple-carplay-android-auto-mirrorlink-conversion-kit/
I own a 997.2 , as much as i love the car , after owning it for 3 years ive decided to sell it , its a great car for what it is , but i no longer find the joy to drive it . Especially with awful roads in socal .this car isnt really meant for daily driving unless you want to be bouncing all over the places due to potholes and uneven pavements in socal ,
For me, any day is a good ay to buy 997. Don’t care about value nor money, it’s about passion! Just kidding I can’t even buy a complete big mac set from McDonald’s
Nice video! You've swayed me to look into these a bit more. I live in CT though... would you say that this is still a practical choice for someone who only has space to own one car and still needs to deal with winter driving/hills?
They are both very different cars. The C7 is faster in a straight line but the 997 is more precise and connected. Porsche build quality is also superior. I'm obviously biased but believe my feedback is objective. Hope this helps.
Nice job, I've watched several of your videos from some time. I have a 2010 c4s and love it I think it's the next classic maybe Singer. How did you upgrade to Apple/Google carplay
I've had ny 997.2 c2s for the past 4 years. Love it and the value has increased by 50%. However, my AC no longer blows cool air, have you had this problem? If so, how do you fix it and how much would it be? Thanks for the videos man!
If you've noticed small pieces of insulation foam blowing out of your vents it could be the vent flap. There are several how to write ups and videos out.
I have a 997 targa 4s which I enjoy but are you sure your S PDK can get to 60mph in only 3.8. I thought 0-60 times for the S PDK was around 4.6. Nice car.
What did you use to get Apple carplay? Also how does your iPhone connect to the carplay, BT or a physical cable thru the audio interface kit? I would like to get apple carplay on my 6mt 997.2 S. Thx
It can connect via Bluetooth or a cable, which is nice! Here's the kit for the 997.2 if you want to buy it. ecarguides.com/product/porsche-pcm-3-0-wireless-apple-carplay-android-auto-mirrorlink-conversion-kit/
Ha there is some merit to your points but, 1) IMS issue is overblown, 3) Tiptronic is still a pretty good transmission. I believe the Tiptronic is faster than the manual on a straight line. 4) base models have been fetching good money as well.
997 Turbo all the way. GTR is fast and looks cool but it's a digital driving experience by design. The 997 Turbo is as analog as you can ask for for it's generation.
@Car Fanatic must be selling a 997 to make this video. Buying one now is an assured massive depreciation loss within 1 to 2 years. The video should be "Why You Should Sell Your Used 911 Now!"
Ha I wish I had an extra. I just think there won't be a real good time to buy a 997. Sure, prices are inflated but I think the 997 is less affected than non enthusiast cars.
993 is lesser car, more a collectible. The 997 is faster, handles better, and less likely to throw you off the road. The 993 appeal is very different, but very real if that's your thing. Better investment too, probably.
Interior is such trash. This is why I didn't even know Porsche was a nice car growing up. Mercedes interior was just so far ahead. I do want to try the car now though. Really want to try a 996 targa. I have a dog, so the interior doesn't matter to me anymore.
I own an E36 M3 that I purchased in 2010 for 7k. I hardly drive the thing and it only has 90k miles on it and I get offers close to 20k. It's the most reliable vehicle I've ever owned, I've had a B8 S4, Porsche Cayman S, Jaguar F Type and a GTI. They all were a total headache and depreciated in value significantly, I'm still thinking about another Porsche but saying that BMW's depreciate like crazy is false. Any M car is actually appreciating like crazy, especially the E46 and the E36. You used a 4 series as an example, that's the worst car BMW makes right now. Who the Hell wants a 4 cylinder BMW??? I can't believe that thing is even in production, I also can't believe they tried to make it look like a M4. It sucks!
Great video! I also recently bought a 997. My first Porsche. Every time I drive it I keep asking myself, what took me so long!? Driving that car through the twisties is therapy in its purest form.
Well put 👌
Therapy is the word 👍🏻
Just got a 997.2 myself, better than I ever imagined.
Good job! I’ve owned 997.1 for over 11 years and it has been extremely reliable. 👍
hey man, how much do u cost for maintaince per year. planning to get one. and planning to fking work super over time for getting the extra pay money lol.
@@dandan-mf4sryea facts tell us
@@dandan-mf4srSeriously, it has been very minimal. Just your basic oil change, after market filter cleaning (I do myself), recent brake fluid replacement. I use waterless wash and wax so I don’t take it in the car wash. It has costs me the same amount (avg.) of maintaining my Toyota Tacoma, which I use more often. I got new tires a couple years ago so that was an expensive line item.
Well done! I just may look for a 997 now as my daily driver. I’ve looked at so many cars, new and used, and keep coming back to the 997. Thanks.
Nice video. I have a 2009 997.2 with 94k miles on her. No issues at all and has been very reliable!
I had my 997.2 C2S for 5 years now. Still the best car for the road I have ever driven. Thanks to your video. I saves hundreds of dollars by doing the oil changes and spark plugs myself.
I am due for engine coolant change. @CarFanatic, will you be doing a DIY video for that?
great video. I own a 2007 997.1 since 2009. It has been trouble free all those years. Great car to drive.
After 2 - 993's I have now my 2nd 997.2 cabriolet, love the 997. Best all-around car on the market.
Picking my .2 up next week
Had a 997. 1c2s for more than 4 years and recently switched to 997.1 turbo. Could not be happier
Is there anything you miss about your 997.1 C2S?
Agreed - the 997.2 is the perfect 911. Now you’d be buying one at a peak, though.
Been loving your 997 series. Thanks for posting all this stuff. Love my 997.2 C2S!
Awesome. Thanks for the support!
Great video!, and thank you. I started my Porsche journey right after you. I have learned so much from your channel. If a car can be considered an investment, the 997.2 has been a very good one for me. Hold it for another new generation to come out, and it will officially be a classic.
Got to say I agree! A 997 is a proper sports car that will put a smile on your face every time you drive it…. Great vid man
I own a 997.2 carrera manual, full main dealer history, 49kM. The local Porsche garage have already asked me 2 times if I want to sell and "upgrade" to a second hand 991 or a new 992. I can efford to buy a good second hand 991 but the 997 has something special, so I keep
I bought an 06 Cabriolet. I love it.
I have exact same car 997.2 S model 2010 and love it, thanks for the video, added spoiler from Techart to it and i couldn’t be happier
Nice review l enjoy it keep them coming 👏🏽🤜🏽🥂
I just bought a gen 1, X51 pack only three weeks ago. The more I drive it the more I like it. Plus the weather and roads just now and I still took it out this am, got the car filthy and yet I don’t care. I’ll wash it tomorrow
Recently, I had a long chat with a service manager here in LA at a Porsche dealer and never heard someone so exited about his future purchase of a Ford Lighting truck. I was amazed as we were surrounded with 2022 speedsters
Just goes to show you time has moved on !
Well, I recently bought a 997 c2s... Always wanted a 911 but wasn't keen on spending so much money on a car... I managed to get one in top mechanical conditions from my best mate who had spent a lot of money on it during his ownership, for a very good price. One thing for sure, I still cannot believe this is my car and I love driving that thing. Mine has various upgrades, from Dansk exhaust, turbo brakes, GT3 alcantara steering wheel/brake stick and gear shifter etc... And a great aftermarket digital stereo unit with GPS/TV etc... To be honest, I never switch the radio on when I drive the car🤣, the noise from the engine and the exhaust is pure melody to me... I was going to buy a Cayman S 987 originally, but having driven both, there is no comparison between the two... The Cayman isn't a bad car at all, but the 997 c2s is in a different league, and this black beauty is a keeper! Just had the Lobsters painted in Satin Porsche Aurum Gold and it looks so good... Oh my oh my... Happy motoring everyone and don't drive like a spanner😉😎
I bought one last year!
I love my 2011 997.2S ...and a surprisingly good investment...if I had just been willing to spring for a GTS in 2018...
My reasons for loving the 997 are the vastly improved interior design over the 996, and for the greatly improved exterior. The beautifully arranged gauges and cohesive dash and center stack finally worked as a visual unit.
But the best reason for the 997 is the 2010 limited production Sport Classic upgrade. It set the bar for all 911s, and has never been surpassed. Of course they go for over $300,000 now but they are That Beautiful. From its dual-bubble roof, duck tail spoiler, Fuchs-inspired wheels and exclusive dove gray paint, racing stripes and exclusive interior appointments, the Sport Classic is as jaw-dropping today as it ever was.
that may be true but they're not worth 3x the price of a 996
Where are you finding 996s at a third the price of 997s
I have no business wanting this car but man I really want this car
watched this a few times over the months. finally got it :D
I love my 1990 Baltic Blue 944S2 Cabriolet….I’ve owned it now, 20 years…still like new, less than 70k on the clock, and it gets comments and looks everywhere I go. But I’d be lying if I didn’t admit to wanting a 911. Life is short…getting shorter every day….niw may be just the time to “pull the trigger”.
Yup I’m here about to add a 997.1 turbo to my garage soon.
Love my 997.2 turbo never selling. Sitting at 36k miles.
Just hit 60k in mine
U gotta drive it dude
👍 Buying a 997 now is a good idea. Paying inflation pricing for one in 2021 or recent May 2022? Naaaa! Stupidity. Cool video and the 997 is the next classic.
Ha inflation has only gotten crazier since the time I made the video.
Great video! Hope I can copy your experiences in China for my coming purchase😊
Really thorough review awesome
Awesome video dude!👍🏽🤙🏽
perfectly right recommendation - 2 or 3 years too late. Here in Germany the 997 prices have gone through the roof - if you can find a decent example
Good thing I did not buy it NOW... Two years later the prices went down.
Great video. The 997 has been a dream car for years, and I’m getting one really soon! Amazing car honestly
Great video. I bought by 2010 997.2 Carrera S manual in 2013. It had 17000km when I bought it and is now up to 58000 (weekend car). So far my experiences completely mirror yours. I’ve done about 10 track days in it over that time and it has had bullet proof reliability. Apart from scheduled maintenance I replaced the front pads and rotors, plus the clutch at about 55000km. The only issue I’ve had is when a stick flew up on a road trip and broke the serpentine belt and tensioner pulley wheel early last year and was replaced by the nearest Porsche dealer. Since then it runs flawlessly and is worth a lot more than I paid for it. Really like your video on fitting the joyeauto unit to pcm 3.0. Might be a good job for a rainy weekend. Does your care have Bose? Any issues with the sound quality.
Keep up the great content Car Fanatic. Greetings from Sydney, Australia.
Hi, I too enjoyed the video, I was thinking the same thing about the Joyeauto unit for my 2009 model, from Carfanatic's diy it looks quite doable.... northern rivers nsw
@@chrisshands8157 you’ve got some great roads up your way. I’m keen to do the Waterfall way road around Dorrigo and also Thundebolts. I did them years ago in a Corolla. The Porker would be way more fun!
@@8titanium8 You are very right about those roads, unfortunately with all the rain, lots of potholes.
Thanks for the kind words. My car does have Bose and the sound quality is very good still. If you want to add one to your car, eCarGuides still has a couple left. ecarguides.com/product/porsche-pcm-3-0-wireless-apple-carplay-android-auto-mirrorlink-conversion-kit/
Definitely a doable DIY. If you want to get a unit, you can find one here. ecarguides.com/product/porsche-pcm-3-0-wireless-apple-carplay-android-auto-mirrorlink-conversion-kit/
I just supercharged mine its so well balanced and being in the south where its hot the SC was a better choice over the turbo charged options.
That's awesome. Where did you get the work done?
Did you get the VF Engineering SC unit?
well...this aged well ......
Thank you!
I literally have an appointment to buy a black, and a white 12 997.2 turbos tom. I still like my 991 better though
I own a 997.2 , as much as i love the car , after owning it for 3 years ive decided to sell it , its a great car for what it is , but i no longer find the joy to drive it . Especially with awful roads in socal .this car isnt really meant for daily driving unless you want to be bouncing all over the places due to potholes and uneven pavements in socal ,
Please track it!! Your opinion will change, I promise
I’m in the market. Is yours a manual?
For me, any day is a good ay to buy 997. Don’t care about value nor money, it’s about passion! Just kidding I can’t even buy a complete big mac set from McDonald’s
Great video 📹 👍🏾
Thanks
I need that GTS/aerocup front end.
You can't do it in a Corvette because it doesn't have back seats. At least pick cars that have a terrible back seat like those Lexus LC430.
Want to buy a 997 turbo with metzger worry about camshafts
Say no more, I just hit buy it now on eBay…
Nice video! You've swayed me to look into these a bit more. I live in CT though... would you say that this is still a practical choice for someone who only has space to own one car and still needs to deal with winter driving/hills?
I live in CT with a 2010 C4S and with a set of OEM winter tires and rims it has never let me down in any daily situation! Have at it!
Smart lid. I have a 2011
Great vid. Which center exhaust bypass did you use?
I used the billy boat bypass
Love your video but… how does it compare to the C7 Corvette?? Torn between the 2 cars for my weekend vehicle.
They are both very different cars. The C7 is faster in a straight line but the 997 is more precise and connected. Porsche build quality is also superior. I'm obviously biased but believe my feedback is objective. Hope this helps.
It’s a sport car,you don’t need to brake on corners.
My pick is my 2022 992 911 turbo s.....it's going up in value 🤔
Nah! Prices are too high. Wait 6 ~ 8 months. The collapse should have occurred by then and everything will have corrected or renormalized.
Bought an 06 Carrera 4 last summer. High miles, don’t care. Lovely car
Damn it I just spend the last few days convincing myself to stick with my GT86 until I skip a few notches up to a Lotus Emira
How do you like the lotus?
I need one
If you were lucky enough to find a 6sp add about 25% more to it's future value
For sure! They were easy to find back then when i bought mine
Wow what paint is that
Nice job, I've watched several of your videos from some time. I have a 2010 c4s and love it I think it's the next classic maybe Singer. How did you upgrade to Apple/Google carplay
I've had ny 997.2 c2s for the past 4 years. Love it and the value has increased by 50%. However, my AC no longer blows cool air, have you had this problem? If so, how do you fix it and how much would it be? Thanks for the videos man!
Thanks for the support. I would first check the refrigerant and system for leaks. If that looks good, it could be the compressor.
If you've noticed small pieces of insulation foam blowing out of your vents it could be the vent flap. There are several how to write ups and videos out.
Probably the blend door foam insulation has come unglued. Common problem
Great video! I'm having this "headlight beam adjustment faulty" error on my 997.2, is it because the leveling sensor problem you mentioned?
Possibly, check this out. ua-cam.com/video/eomFDr6VlPk/v-deo.html
Good video but calling a BMW (M2/3/4?) a faux-sports car is a stretch bro….
Nice video. But I won't call an M4 a faux sports car. Every one doesn't buy a car for economic value.
Thanks for watching and your feedback. I agree the M4 has some serious performance.
Can the seats recline to the back to allow occasional rest during long trips?
Yes it can!
Or other activities
I have a 997 targa 4s which I enjoy but are you sure your S PDK can get to 60mph in only 3.8. I thought 0-60 times for the S PDK was around 4.6. Nice car.
I've seen times ranging in low 4s to high 3s. I believe 3.8s was clocked by Car And Driver.
I’d bet money that 4.6 is way off
Upvote status 902. Just 9 more upvotes needed 😁
What did you use to get Apple carplay? Also how does your iPhone connect to the carplay, BT or a physical cable thru the audio interface kit? I would like to get apple carplay on my 6mt 997.2 S. Thx
It can connect via Bluetooth or a cable, which is nice! Here's the kit for the 997.2 if you want to buy it. ecarguides.com/product/porsche-pcm-3-0-wireless-apple-carplay-android-auto-mirrorlink-conversion-kit/
Why you shouldn’t buy one now:
- ims bearing
- inflation
- tiptronic models are going to be worth 💩
- base model will be worth 💩
Ha there is some merit to your points but, 1) IMS issue is overblown, 3) Tiptronic is still a pretty good transmission. I believe the Tiptronic is faster than the manual on a straight line. 4) base models have been fetching good money as well.
@@CarFanatic - whole car market is in correction mode. Within the next 2 years tip 911s will be what they were pre covid. 💩💩💩
Saw a 997 turbo for about $75k
997 turbo or GTR, and why?
997 Turbo all the way. GTR is fast and looks cool but it's a digital driving experience by design. The 997 Turbo is as analog as you can ask for for it's generation.
Too late. Prices are already at the peak and inventory is slim.
Get a Miata
@@TheMediocreDev Or a 997 🤫
It is cool car even know I'm subaru / domestic guy
997.1 not sure... maybe 99.2
Is this in Utah?
AZ :)
what about a 996?
Definitely a fun and cool car, but not as good in every department.
997.2 gts
@Car Fanatic must be selling a 997 to make this video. Buying one now is an assured massive depreciation loss within 1 to 2 years. The video should be "Why You Should Sell Your Used 911 Now!"
Ha I wish I had an extra. I just think there won't be a real good time to buy a 997. Sure, prices are inflated but I think the 997 is less affected than non enthusiast cars.
Which 997 has 620hp?
GT2! It's a beast even by today's standards.
its already too late.. clean low mileage 997s are already way expensive.. especially manuals.
You ain’t lying. BaT just sold an 05 2CS with 113k on the odo for $41k
Buy the 993 if you afford it.
993 is lesser car, more a collectible. The 997 is faster, handles better, and less likely to throw you off the road. The 993 appeal is very different, but very real if that's your thing. Better investment too, probably.
you should NOT buy any car now except EV, used car prices are highest in history cos of chip shortage
😷🏁
My wife doesn’t like this video
Interior is such trash. This is why I didn't even know Porsche was a nice car growing up. Mercedes interior was just so far ahead. I do want to try the car now though. Really want to try a 996 targa. I have a dog, so the interior doesn't matter to me anymore.
How’d he get 10k views on such a boring car?
If you owned one you'd know why!
I own an E36 M3 that I purchased in 2010 for 7k. I hardly drive the thing and it only has 90k miles on it and I get offers close to 20k. It's the most reliable vehicle I've ever owned, I've had a B8 S4, Porsche Cayman S, Jaguar F Type and a GTI. They all were a total headache and depreciated in value significantly, I'm still thinking about another Porsche but saying that BMW's depreciate like crazy is false. Any M car is actually appreciating like crazy, especially the E46 and the E36. You used a 4 series as an example, that's the worst car BMW makes right now. Who the Hell wants a 4 cylinder BMW??? I can't believe that thing is even in production, I also can't believe they tried to make it look like a M4. It sucks!
I want to buy one but im too broke if inhave to replace/rebuild the engine when (yeah i said when) the engine develops bore scoring issues. 🫤